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30 Days of BTG – Day 4: Lando Norris’ karting hero
For Day 4 of our pre-season build-up, the origins of a current F1 star. Lando Norris, driver of car number 4, takes Tom Clarkson back to the childhood moment he decided to race cars instead of bikes. In the clip from 2019 Lando also remembers admiring a young driver named George who he used to race in go-karts. Whatever happened to him? Tom’s choosing his favourite clips from the BTG archive ahead of Season 6 on March 1st. Hit the follow button to join in.For Lando’s first Beyond The Grid interview from 2019, head here Or listen here for his second appearance when he talked about his fans and hunting his first F1 win
30 Days of BTG – Day 3: Sir Jackie Stewart the survivor
For Day 3 of Beyond The Grid’s pre-season warm-up, Tom Clarkson introduces a full-length archive episode with a veteran of F1’s most dangerous period. Sir Jackie Stewart is a triple F1 World Champion, who battled some of the greatest drivers of all time in the 1960s and 70s. Sir Jackie remembers the races, the rivals and risks he faced at a time when F1 was very different. 30 Days of Beyond The Grid continues tomorrow. For the latest F1 pre-season news, visit F1.com, download the F1 app and follow F1 on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and TikTokThis episode is sponsored by: LinkedIn: find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at linkedin.com/GRIDShopify: sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/beyondthegrid
30 Days of BTG – Day 2: Fernando Alonso’s ambition
Before Season 6 of F1 Beyond The Grid, Tom Clarkson is racing through the best bits of the archive in 30 Days of Beyond The Grid. On Day 2, two-time F1 World Champion Fernando Alonso talks about his successes, failures and the legacy he wants to leave behind. Hit the follow button to join Tom for 30 Days of Beyond The Grid. Season 6 starts March 1stTo hear the full 2021 interview with Fernando Alonso, tap here For the best bits of BTG in 2022, including Susie Wolff, Carlos Sainz and Kevin Magnussen, listen here
30 Days of BTG – Day 1: Lewis Hamilton’s dreams
Get ready for more in-depth conversations with Formula 1’s biggest stars. Season 6 of F1 Beyond The Grid starts Wednesday 1st March. In the build-up, Tom Clarkson is guiding you through the best bits of BTG’s huge interview archive in 30 Days of Beyond The Grid. On Day 1, listen to Lewis Hamilton from our first ever episode back in 2018. He remembers his childhood desire to be an F1 driver and explains how hard it is to win the World Championship. Follow F1 Beyond The Grid, share the podcast with a friend, and check back tomorrow for Day 2.To hear the full 2018 interview with Lewis Hamilton, head right here For the best bits of BTG in 2022, including Lando Norris, Sebastian Vettel and Daniel Ricciardo, listen here
Seb’s biggest supporter, Lando’s lost win + Carlos’ dream – The Best Of 2022
Reflections from Ricciardo. Stories from Susie Wolff. Memories from Mansell. On F1 Beyond The Grid, the sport’s fastest stars slow down and open up in feature-length conversations with Tom Clarkson. In this end-of-year special, Tom chooses his highlights from 2022. Daniel Ricciardo lifted the lid on his McLaren struggles. Legendary designer Steve Nichols remembered triple World Champion Ayrton Senna’s first drive in his 1980s McLaren ‘wonder car’. Sebastian Vettel talked about his strongest ally and his most talented teammate. The clips in this episode come from the full episodes listed below. Thank you for listening in 2022. F1 Beyond The Grid will return in 2023. Carlos Sainz: ready to win with Ferrari Nigel Mansell: World Champion, through the pain Kevin Magnussen: a no-fear F1 comeback with Haas Steve Nichols: engineering domination for McLaren Mike Elliott: how Mercedes’ ‘mistake’ is making them stronger George Russell: rising with Mercedes Lando Norris: working on winning with McLaren Gilles Villeneuve Remembered Susie Wolff: racer, role model, risk taker Nicholas Latifi: limits, lessons + leaving F1 Nyck De Vries: seizing his F1 chance Christian Horner: putting Red Bull back on top Daniel Ricciardo: not done with F1 Sebastian Vettel: around the next corner This episode is sponsored by: Shopify: sign up for a FREE trial at shopify.com/beyondthegrid and start selling online todaySmartNews: download SmartNews for free today in the app store to get the news that matters most.
Toto Wolff: falling behind in 22, fighting back in 23
He’s led Mercedes to 115 race wins in Formula 1, but Toto Wolff is only focused on the next victory. The Silver Arrows stumbled in 2022. They learned lessons while they were down and scored a late-season win to fire them up for 2023. Toto tells Tom Clarkson how a difficult year will benefit the team in future. He explains how the performance of George Russell, the leadership of Lewis Hamilton, the legacy of Niki Lauda and Toto’s own influence will be key ingredients in Mercedes recovery. ‘The days we lose are the days our competitors will regret, because we learn the most’, says Toto. It sounds like he’s already racing for that next win…Related episodes:Christian Horner, Toto’s Red Bull rival Mattia Binotto, Ferrari’s outgoing Team Principal Daniel RicciardoGeorge Russell This episode is sponsored by: Rocket Money: get rid of useless subscriptions with Rocket Money now. Go to rocketmoney.com/GRID. Seriously, it could save you HUNDREDS per yearLinkedIn Jobs: find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at linkedin.com/GRID
Daniel Ricciardo: not done with F1
He won’t be racing in 2023, but Daniel Ricciardo is thinking further ahead. Why is returning to Red Bull as Third Driver the best thing for a driver with 8 Grand Prix wins to his name? In this in-depth interview with Tom Clarkson, Daniel explores his decision to spend a season off the track and how he hopes it will boost his career and life outside racing. ‘I don’t feel completely done’, he says of his future in F1. ‘I think I’ll want to get back on the grid, but time will tell’. Daniel reflects on why he left Red Bull in 2018, details his struggles at McLaren and explains how age, pressure, confidence and rest affect his performance. He also lays out his to-do list for his year time from racing, including a very big ride on a very small motorbike…Related episodes: Daniel Ricciardo on his McLaren win in 2021 Daniel’s first Beyond The Grid interview in 2019Lando Norris on racing Daniel at McLaren This episode is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Take back your internet privacy today with the VPN rated #1 by TechRadar and Mashable. Visit expressvpn.com/grid and get three extra months for free
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Guenther Steiner: maverick, making big moves at Haas
‘I do this with passion. I like to work hard’. Guenther Steiner, Haas’ straight-talking Team Principal, has had plenty of hard work to do this year. From finding a new driver on the eve of the 2022 season, to replacing Mick Schumacher with Nico Hulkenberg for 2023, Steiner has made big calls to help Haas make big moves. In great detail, he talks Tom Clarkson through his decisions, and how they’ll drive the team towards its goals. Guenther also gives his views on his fame, management style and even his merchandise. Plus insight into how F1’s smallest team go about their business, memories of an historic pole position in Brazil and reflections on Romain Grosjean’s Bahrain crash.Related episodes: Kevin Magnussen Mick Schumacher Nico HulkenbergGuenther’s first BTG interview This episode is sponsored by: SmartNews: Download SmartNews for free today in the app store to get the news that matters most. Search for it in the Apple App store for your iPhone or iPad, or Google Play store for Android users.Babbel: go to babbel.com/play, and use promo code GRID for an extra six months free.
Sebastian Vettel: around the next corner
‘I’ve thought about this so much, and it feels so right’. Sebastian Vettel is ready to say farewell to Formula 1. In a final in-depth interview with Tom Clarkson, Sebastian looks back at his entire F1 career: how he dealt with winning and losing, his rivalries and friendships with champions and teammates, and the races and moments that shaped him. He explains how ‘feeling loved’ fuelled his success, and what he’ll miss about life in F1. Sebastian also looks ahead – beyond his final chequered flag in Abu Dhabi - to what’s around the next corner.Follow, rate and review F1 Beyond The Grid on your podcast app. Share your thoughts on this episode and your memories of Sebastian Vettel’s F1 career using #F1BeyondTheGrid. Scroll through the BTG back catalogue for more interviews with stars from every era of Formula 1.Related episodes: Sebastian Vettel on Ferrari Charles Leclerc Kimi Raikkonen Fernando Alonso Mick SchumacherMark Webber Lewis HamiltonThis episode is sponsored by: Babbel: right now, Babbel is offering our listeners six months free with a purchase of a 6-month subscription, go to babbel.com/play and use promo code GRIDShopify: sign up for a FREE trial at shopify.com/beyondthegrid and start selling online today
This week: a very special episode…
Listen right here on Wednesday 16th November. Follow the podcast and share it with your fellow F1 fans using #F1BeyondTheGrid
Danica Patrick: winner, leader, competitor
F1 was her ‘goal’ once upon a time, but she made history in IndyCar and NASCAR. Danica Patrick’s early racing career followed the course of so many F1 stars: karting championships, a teenage move to Europe, an impressive result at the prestigious Formula Ford Festival, and meetings with former F1 champions and team bosses. But it was back in the US that made her mark on motorsport, winning in IndyCar and leading the Indy500. Was racing in F1 ever a possibility? Danica tells Tom Clarkson about her life in racing: why oval racing differs from road course driving, how team orders may have denied her more success, and how she feels about Formula 1 today.Related episodes: Bobby Rahal – IndyCar + F1 driver, Danica’s former team bossNASCAR champion Jeff Gordon Susie WolffThis episode is sponsored by: LinkedIn Jobs: find the qualified candidates youwant to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at linkedin.com/GRIDExpressVPN: go to expressvpn.com/grid today and get an extra three months free on a one-year packageRocket Money: get rid of useless subscriptions with Rocket Money now. Go to rocketmoney.com/GRID. Seriously, it could save you HUNDREDS per year
Nicholas Latifi: limits, lessons + leaving F1
A chapter is closing, but Nicholas Latifi is ready to open up. In three difficult F1 seasons, the Canadian has dealt with defeats, disappointment and being dropped by Williams. As he prepares to leave the sport at the end of 2022, Nicholas tells Tom Clarkson about the challenges and frustrations he continues to face. In deep detail, he explains why he struggles to show his speed on the racetrack, how his ‘weaknesses’ behind the wheel have been ‘exposed’, and why he’s often unable to match the achievements of his teammates. He’s quick to praise George Russell, Alex Albon and Nyck De Vries, his one-time teammate and former F2 championship rival, as well as his Williams team for supporting him. He points to performances he’s proud of which sometimes passed unnoticed and remembers times he came close to impressive results. Now, Nicholas is looking to his future. He reveals what’s driving his decision on where to continue his race.Related episodes: Alex Albon George RussellNyck De VriesJost Capito, Williams CEOThis episode is sponsored by: Rocket Money: get rid of useless subscriptions with Rocket Money now. Go to rocketmoney.com/GRID. It could save you HUNDREDS per year.Santander: CountdownToZero is a global competition for startups and scale ups looking for solutions that help the motor sport world become a more sustainable place. Ideas improving logistics or transport within the sport, projects aimed Net Zero mobility or that help offset the carbon footprint. Check out the winners at santander.com
Jan Magnussen: success, struggles + supporting Kevin
His time in F1 was brief and ‘brutal’, but he learned lessons he’s passing on to his son. Jan Magnussen, father of Haas driver Kevin, arrived in Formula 1 in the mid-1990s feeling unbeatable. His confidence came from a stunning championship-winning season in British Formula 3, in which he broke records set by the great Ayrton Senna. F1 broke that confidence. ‘I don’t think I understood the enormity of the task’ Jan tells Tom Clarkson as he honestly looks back on a difficult time with McLaren and Stewart Grand Prix. Did the early success which launched him into F1 have a downside? Did a ‘driving lesson’ from triple World Champion team boss Jackie Stewart do more harm than good? Jan remembers his sudden F1 exit, and how he rediscovered his love of racing. Today, he shares that love and the wisdom of his experience with Kevin as his father, sportscar teammate and mentor.Related episodes: Kevin Magnussen on his ‘no fear’ F1 comeback.
Nyck De Vries: seizing his 2023 F1 chance
In September 2022, Nyck De Vries got a golden opportunity. A surprise F1 debut. He knew it was a chance to change his life. His remarkable top 10 finish was just step one of his mission. In an exclusive in-depth interview, Nyck tells Tom Clarkson what he did next: the phone calls, flights, meetings and deals which have made him a 2023 AlphaTauri Formula 1 driver. He explains how advice from his friend Max Verstappen, dinners with an F1 star-maker, a personal approach to negotiations and a decision to move away from Mercedes were so important. With championship-winning speed developed in Formula 2 and Formula E, experience driving several F1 cars and a wealth of racing knowledge to draw on, F1’s newest driver is ready for his next big opportunity.Related episodesNyck’s 2023 AlphaTauri teammate, Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri Team Principal, Franz Tost Nyck’s fellow Formula 2 champions:George Russell Charles LeclercMick SchumacherThis episode is sponsored by: BetterHelp: visit BetterHelp.com/grid today to get 10% off your first monthMSC Cruises: book your unforgettable cruise vacation at msccruises.comLiquid IV: get 15% off when you go to liquidiv.com and use code GRID at checkout
This week, exclusively on F1 Beyond The Grid…
Tom’s got news of this week’s in-depth interview. Hear it exclusively here on Wednesday 19th October
Karun Chandhok: dreams, deals + defying the odds
Whether he’s behind the wheel of an F1 car or analysing the action for millions on TV, Karun Chandhok is driven by his passion for racing. His love for the sport grew during his childhood in India, and it remains strong despite his frustrating time in F1, where he repeatedly defied the odds. With little money to rely on and few racing opportunities at home, Karun set out on a path which took him to Europe. GP2 wins led to a Red Bull test and a spot on the F1 grid with a brand new team in 2010. Karun tells Tom Clarkson the astonishing story of his Grand Prix debut and the struggle to even start his first race. He reflects on the deals and behind-the-scenes events at Hispania and Lotus which changed the course of his career. He sums up the experience of driving some of F1’s most legendary cars, including the ‘scary’ one, and the one that he feels is ‘a bit too perfect’. Plus, Karun explains how his love for F1 is fuelling his current work as a broadcaster, racetrack design consultant and grassroots motorsport advocate.This episode is sponsored by: Shopify: sign up for a FREE trial at shopify.com/beyondthegridLinkedIn Jobs: find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at linkedin.com/GRID.
Mike Elliott: the 2022 ‘mistake’ making Mercedes stronger
As soon as the 2022 Mercedes F1 car hit the racetrack, the man who oversaw its creation realised it had problems. ‘We made a mistake’, admits Technical Director Mike Elliot. In finding fixes, Mike and his team of engineers have improved Mercedes’ results and learned a lot about themselves. Mike tells Tom Clarkson how they traced the car’s problems to a single design decision, how a year of not winning has helped the people at Mercedes develop, and how he craves a return to the team’s championship-winning form. Looking back, Mike remembers why he chose a career in F1, and the remarkable day two top teams offered him a role. That led him to work in aerodynamics for McLaren, and he recalls a surprising early conversation he had with the team’s young test driver, Lewis Hamilton. McLaren’s former leader Ron Dennis, legendary car designer Adrian Newey, Mercedes boss Toto Wolff and drivers Michael Schumacher, Nico Rosberg and George Russell also feature in Mike’s story. He explains how F1 engineering has become ‘more specialised’ and has advice for anyone who aspires to work in F1 car design.More BTG interviews with F1 Technical Directors:AlphaTauri’s Jody Egginton McLaren’s James Key Alpine’s Pat Fry James Allison, former Mercedes TDThis episode is sponsored by: ExpressVPN: secure your online activity by visiting ExpressVPN.com/grid TODAY and get an extra three months FREE
Martin Donnelly: unbroken and unstoppable
He’s a survivor, who fought back from a crash which could have broken his spirit. Martin Donnelly’s racing career was cut short at the 1990 Spanish Grand Prix, when his Lotus left the track and hit a barrier at 160 miles per hour, throwing him from the car. Martin tells Tom Clarkson his memories of that fateful weekend, and the great lengths he went to as he tried to return to racing – including treatment from the doctor who had helped Niki Lauda after the Austrian’s life-changing crash. He reflects on his close friendship with Ayrton Senna, who rushed to the scene that day in Spain, and on his brotherhood with fellow racing drivers like Damon Hill and Johnny Herbert, alongside whom he rose to Formula 1. Support from his father and deals with shrewd team owner Eddie Jordan shaped his career. His time at the top of motorsport was short-lived, his potential never fully realised, but Martin never stopped racing.Related episodes: Eddie JordanDamon Hill Tommy ByrneJohnny Herbert Derek WarwickThis episode is sponsored by: DoorDash: use code GRID for 50% off your first order with DoorDash. Subject to change, terms apply.Emma Sleep: save 5% on top on all offers at www.emma-sleep.co.uk/grid
Christian Horner: putting Red Bull back on top
It’s been a dramatic year for Red Bull Racing, from the titanic battle Max Verstappen fought with Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes for the 2021 title, to setting up their own power unit arm, before taking a commanding lead in both championships this season – with a flirtation with Porsche thrown in for good measure. Team boss Christian Horner tells host Tom Clarkson all about that incredible 2021 title fight from Red Bull’s perspective, including his thoughts on rival team boss Toto Wolff, and that intense Abu Dhabi season finale. He also reflects on whether Verstappen approaches racing Charles Leclerc differently to how he takes on Hamilton, what he makes of Daniel Ricciardo’s early McLaren exit, and why Red Bull decided now was the right time to set up their own engine division. Plus he reveals what happened to the proposed Porsche partnership, touches on some of the company’s non-F1 projects – including designing a submarine – as well as how it feels to have led the team back to the brink of championship glory once again.Related episodes: Christian Horner in 2021 and 2018Sergio Perez This episode is sponsored by: Babbel: go to babbel.com/play and use promo code GRID for an extra six months freeLinkedIn Jobs: post your job for free at linkedin.com/GRIDDoorDash: for a limited time, our listeners can get 50% off and zero delivery fees on their first order of $15 or more, when you download the DoorDash app and enter code GRID
Timo Glock: ‘game over’, last-lap drama + F1 podiums
He was part of one of F1’s most dramatic finales, but there’s so much more to Timo Glock’s story than that rain-soaked lap in Brazil. A relative late-comer to racing, he quickly showed speed, made smart sponsorship deals and caught the attention of F1 teams. Timo tells Tom Clarkson about the surprise phone call which led to his points-scoring Grand Prix debut, the disappointment of dropping out of the sport, the moment he felt it was ‘game over’ for his racing career, and an all-or-nothing season which gave him a second chance at F1. With Toyota in 2008 and 2009, Timo scored podiums which proved he was worthy of a race-winning car. He reveals how agonisingly close he came to a career-transforming move in a pivotal period at the end of 2009, only to find himself racing at the back of the grid in 2010. Plus, his friendship with the Schumachers, the moment lawyers decided his F1 future and that final lap in Brazil in 2008: the ‘impossible’ action, the crazy reaction and an unlikely friendship that followed, ten years in the making. This episode is sponsored by: Shopify: sign up for a FREE fourteen-day trial at shopify.co.uk/gridBetterHelp: when you want to be a better problem solver, therapy can get you there.Visit betterhelp.com/grid today to get 10% off your first month
Jan Lammers: F1 record-holder, Dutch GP hero
He’s a Zandvoort ‘beach boy’, who became a local hero in F1. Racing in the Dutch Grand Prix was a dream come true for Jan Lammers, but he struggled to show his speed in Formula 1 and dropped out of the sport after 4 difficult seasons. He was always determined to return to motorsport’s pinnacle and waited a record 10 years for his chance. Jan tells Tom Clarkson about his rise from junior European champion to F1, the impact impatience had on his career, how bad luck repeatedly ruined his best chances of a life changing F1 result, and how a change in attitude and focus on learning helped him take Le Mans victory in 1988 and return to F1 after his decade away. Today, Jan is Sporting Director of his hometown racetrack, Zandvoort, and is working to make the Dutch Grand Prix a spectacular and sustainable event.This episode is sponsored by: MSC Cruises: Explore MSC Cruises world of destinations and book yourself a holidaythat’s going to take your breath away from start to finish on msccruises.comExpressVPN: Secure your online data by visiting ExpressVPN.com/GRID and get an extra three months FREEDoor Dash: For a limited time our listeners can get 50% off and zero delivery fees on their first order of $15 or more when you download the DoorDash app and enter code GRID
René Arnoux: wheel-to-wheel 'war' with Villeneuve, Lauda + Prost
He fought one of F1’s all-time greatest duels, was often untouchable in qualifying, and his victories were celebrated by entire nations. René Arnoux spent a decade racing the likes of Gilles Villeneuve, Alain Prost and Niki Lauda. He raced and won for both Renault and Ferrari, leading the Scuderia to a world title in 1983. René passionately and vividly talks Tom Clarkson through his remarkable career, remembering his epic wheel-to-wheel battle with his great friend Villeneuve in 1979, negotiations with Enzo Ferrari, his lost chance to become World Champion and his rivalry with Renault teammate Prost. Arnoux also picks the 2022 F1 driver he thinks is most like himself Related episodesGilles Villeneuve Remembered Racing for Enzo Ferrari René’s pick of 2022: Lando Norris This episode is sponsored by: LinkedIn Jobs: find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post a job for free at linkedin.com/GRIDDave: download the Dave app from the App store right now. Sign up for an Extra Cash account and get up to 500 dollars instantly. For terms and conditions go to dave.com/legal. Instant transfer fees apply. Banking provided by Evolve. Member FDIC.Santander: Countdown to Zero is a global competition for startups and scaleups to help the motor sport world become more sustainable. And that’s why we are looking for sustainable and innovative proposals that allow us to continue enjoying our passion while respecting the environment. Register your idea on santanderx.com before 8th September.
Lando Norris: working on winning with McLaren
He’s an F1 star, and he’s still getting brighter. Lando Norris is on a mission with McLaren, determined to deliver trophies and titles. He’s twice come agonisingly close to his first F1 victory. That is just fuel for his fire. Lando opens up to Tom Clarkson about the races he feels he should have already won, his moments of self-doubt, his ambitions, his attitude to life and work, and how he’s seen by the public and his fans. Lando reveals he sometimes dwells on past frustrations, but his focus is fixed on future glory. He’s honest and illuminating about things he and his team can improve. One day soon, he says, ‘there won’t be any excuses’. Working on winning will ‘make things sweeter… a much cooler story’. As you’ll hear, the hard work has already begun…Have a listen to Lando’s first F1 Beyond The Grid appearance in March 2020Plus other related interviews from the BTG archiveDaniel RicciardoCarlos Sainz McLaren CEO (and Lando’s golf buddy) Zak Brown This episode is sponsored by: Liquid IV: get 15% off ANYTHING you order when you shop better hydration today using promo code GRID at liquidiv.comBetterHelp: our listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/GRIDBabbel: receive six months free with a purchase of a 6-month subscription with promo code GRID at babbel.com/play
Beat Zehnder: 30 seasons with 1 team, Leclerc, Vettel, Raikkonen + Kubica
Since South Africa 1993, Beat Zehnder has not missed a Formula 1 Grand Prix. Hungary 2022 was his 538th race weekend, and he’s spent them all with the same team. Once it was known as Sauber, today it’s Alfa Romeo. Before joining Sauber, Beat was a ship engine mechanic. He was kicked out of his first job interview with the Swiss racing team because he had no interest in motorsport. How and why, then, has he spent so long in Formula 1? Beat tells Tom Clarkson incredible stories of the tiny Sauber team’s amazing entry into F1, and its repeated struggles for survival. Schumacher, Frentzen, Raikkonen, Kubica, Vettel and Leclerc are just some of the drivers Beat has worked with, but who does he call ‘the most complete’ of them all? Beat’s love for the sport was shaken at times of tragedy, but his loyalty and love of teamwork have never faltered.This episode is sponsored by: Harry's: make sure to support the podcast and start your own skin care journey, by redeeming a free Harry’s Trial Set at harrys.com/grid. All you cover is £3.95 for delivery and your freebie will be added at checkoutExpressVPN: visit expressvpn.com/grid to get three extra months free