The Nissan 370Z is a sports car that many people modify. Here, the host says his 370Z has had suspension trouble and that it has aftermarket suspension parts, which can sometimes cause problems if they weren’t set up right.
Aftermarket suspension means the suspension parts were replaced with non-factory parts. That can improve handling, but it can also cause ride or alignment problems if the parts don’t match the car or weren’t installed correctly.
The Plymouth Prowler is a sports car with a very distinctive, retro hot-rod style. It’s not just about speed—it’s also about the look. The episode mentions it because it’s one of those cars people remember for its unusual design.
The Buick Grand National is a performance car from Buick. The episode highlights the GNX and mentions it has a six-cylinder engine. It’s brought up because it’s a well-known turbo performance model with a specific engine setup.
The Buick GNX is a special, high-performance version of the Grand National. Even though it’s not a V8, it’s still considered a serious hot-rod/muscle-car because of how fast and punchy it is.
A muscle car is an American-style performance car known for having a big, powerful engine. In this conversation, it’s used to describe the kind of hot rod he thinks of.
A “pony car” is a type of American performance car that’s usually smaller and sporty, with a powerful engine. The episode uses it to describe the vibe of the hot rods he likes.
A “chop roof” is when someone lowers a car’s roof by cutting and reshaping it. It’s a common hot-rod style trick to make the car look lower and meaner.
The Mustang is a sporty car model made by Ford. The episode mentions the “Fox body,” which is a particular older Mustang style. It also sounds like they’re talking about how people modify these cars to look and perform differently.
Term
cruise hot rock culture
It’s basically talking about an old-school car scene—people cruising around together, showing off their cars, and enjoying loud music. Here, it’s more about the vibe and era than a specific car part.
A “show and shine” is a car meet where people park their cars, clean them up, and let others look them over. It’s more about how the cars look than racing.
“Suicide doors” are doors that hinge at the back instead of the front. They’re called that because, on older designs, they can feel like they’d be easier to open unintentionally.
Lincoln Continentals are older luxury cars made by Lincoln. The speaker is pointing out a specific look—long, classic styling and doors that hinge in a distinctive way.
A restomod is an older car that’s been updated with newer parts. It tries to keep the classic look, but make it drive and perform more like a modern car.
A “crate engine” is a new engine you buy ready to install. “Coyote” is a nickname for a modern Ford V8, and the speaker thinks this Mustang had one swapped in.
A restomod is an older car that’s been updated with newer parts so it drives better than it did originally. The host is saying some people build Mustangs to look classic, but make the engine behave more like a newer one. That’s why the rev sounds “modern.”
A ProCharger is a type of supercharger that helps the engine make more power by pushing extra air in. The host thinks the car had that kind of setup because of how it sounded. They also mention it was hidden under the hood instead of sticking out where you’d easily see it.
Twin-turbo means the engine uses two turbochargers to add extra air and make more power. The host is guessing based on the sound that it probably wasn’t set up that way. Different turbo setups can feel and sound different.
The Shelby GT500 is a very powerful version of the Ford Mustang made by Shelby. The episode mentions it because the “Eleanor” car from a movie is based on a 1967 Shelby GT500. It’s a famous performance car name people recognize.
A Shelby GT 500 is a special, high-powered version of the Ford Mustang made by Shelby. Here, the host is talking about the movie “Eleanor,” which they say is a 1967 Shelby GT 500. The big deal is that it sounds awesome and looks instantly recognizable in the chase scene.
The Ford F-150 Raptor is a special off-road version of the F-150 pickup. In the conversation, it’s mentioned as a truck people take in for performance/tuning work.
Roush is a company that makes performance upgrades for certain Fords. The idea here is that there are different tuning brands, and the host is wondering how they relate to Shelby.
Brand
Velociraptor
Velociraptor is a named tuning package for a Ford Raptor truck. It means the truck has been modified by that tuner into a specific performance version.
Hennessey is a company that upgrades cars and trucks after they’re built. People go to them when they want more power than the factory version.
Term
Mexican GTR
“Mexican GTR” is slang for a pickup that looks boring like a work truck, but can actually be quick. The idea is “looks normal, drives fast,” similar to how people talk about a Nissan GT-R.
Four-wheel drive means power goes to all four wheels, which helps the truck grip the road better. It can change how the truck launches and accelerates.
The Nissan GT-R is a high-performance sports car made by Nissan. It’s known for being fast and capable in real driving, not just on paper. The episode mentions it because it’s a well-known performance model.
Some engines can “turn off” part of the cylinders when you’re cruising. That saves gas, but the engine still has moving parts, so people sometimes worry about long-term wear.
Cylinder deactivation is the tech that stops some cylinders from working when you don’t need full power. It helps with fuel economy, but it adds extra systems that can be harder to maintain.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car from Chevrolet. It’s built to go fast, but the episode is saying it can also be efficient with fuel. That’s why it stands out in a conversation about driving and ownership.
Auto start/stop turns the engine off when you’re stopped and turns it back on when you’re ready to go. It’s meant to save fuel, but some people don’t like how it feels.
DCT means a dual-clutch automatic transmission. It shifts fast because it pre-selects the next gear, but some cars with DCT still may not have auto start/stop.
They’re talking about how the A/C can still use power from the battery. If the car is shutting off at a stop, that extra power draw can feel “weird” or cause symptoms.
“Boost numbers” are how hard the turbo or supercharger is pushing air pressure into the engine. More boost can mean more power, but it can also stress the engine more.
An “aluminum motor” means the engine is built with aluminum parts, which usually makes it lighter. But when you push it with big turbo/supercharger power, it can be less tolerant than iron.
The Ford F-150 is a popular pickup truck. Here, they’re talking about its turbo engine design and why the engine’s materials matter when you push it with boost.
The Ford GT is a very high-performance sports car made by Ford. It’s meant to be fast and exciting to drive, not a regular daily car. The episode mentions the name “Shelby” because people often connect Ford’s performance models and branding.
Saline is a company that modifies cars—especially Mustangs. In this episode, they’re mentioned as another builder that made a version with a similar wild, standout style.
The Chrysler 300 is a big American sedan with a distinctive, old-school-inspired style. The host is using it as an example of cars that looked more “retro” in the mid-2000s.
The Chrysler PT Cruiser is a small car from Chrysler. It’s known for its retro, old-school styling. In the episode, it’s mentioned as one of the memorable, unusual cars people remember from the past.
The Chevy SSR is a weird, retro-looking vehicle that mixes pickup and roadster vibes. The host is saying it’s uncommon to see one just driving around.
Concept
rest of mods
This is the idea of modifying a car after you buy it. People add changes to make it look cooler or drive better than it did from the factory.
Car
Shelby Cobra
The Shelby Cobra is a famous old-school sports car. People love it because it looks tough and has a big engine, and the name “Cobra” is strongly tied to classic American performance.
A “replica” is a car that’s made to look like a well-known classic. People build them so they get the classic look, but with parts that can make the car easier to drive and maintain.
The “GT 500” is a high-performance Mustang made under the Shelby name. Here, the host is saying the car they’re talking about was inspired by that vibe, but not as extreme.
The “Voodoo engine” is Ford’s special V8 used in the GT 350 and 350R. It’s built to rev and sound a certain way, and that’s a big part of why people like these cars.
Term
flat plane crane
This is about the engine’s internal crankshaft design. The “flat-plane” layout changes how the engine fires, which affects the sound and how the engine feels when you rev it.
The “Dark Horse” is a Mustang performance model that’s meant to be more serious than a regular GT. In this segment, it’s used as the modern example of that middle ground.
This is basically about branding rights. The host is saying Ford had to pay to use the Shelby name, so it’s not just a free partnership where the name automatically shows up on every new car.
Carl Shelby was a famous performance-car guy tied to Ford. The host is saying Ford is using the Shelby name because it carries a lot of racing history.
Coilovers are suspension parts that combine the spring and the shock into one package. They can often be adjusted so the car rides the way you want instead of feeling too bouncy or too harsh.
Fortune Auto makes aftermarket suspension parts, especially coilovers. The important part here is that the host found the same brand on multiple corners of the car.
He’s saying the suspension parts are the same on multiple corners. That helps the car react more evenly over bumps instead of feeling weird from side to side or front to back.
With adjustable coilovers, you can change how stiff the suspension feels and how high the car sits. If it’s set wrong, the ride can feel too rough over bumps.
Alignment is the process of setting the suspension geometry—like camber, toe, and caster—so the tires track correctly. After coilover changes or adjustments, alignment is often required to prevent uneven tire wear and to restore predictable steering and ride behavior.
Lift kits are suspension modifications that raise a vehicle’s ride height, often to fit larger tires or improve ground clearance. The speaker mentions them alongside lowered-car coilover work, implying the shop specializes in ride-height changes and related setup.
Overdamped means the suspension is set too stiff. Instead of moving smoothly over bumps, it resists motion and the car can hit its limits, making the ride feel jarring.
Airbags are safety cushions that pop out during a crash to help protect your body. If they deployed, the car’s sensors decided the impact was serious enough to trigger them.
Term
tire skin marks
Those are the marks tires leave on the road when the car slides. Police can look at them to figure out how the car moved and when it lost control.
“Donuts” are when someone spins the car around in place, usually by spinning the tires. It can be risky because the car can slide into the curb or hit something nearby.
Odometer rollback means someone lowered the car’s recorded mileage to make it look like it has fewer miles. That can hide how much wear the car really has.
Term
VQ
VQ is Nissan’s name for a type of V6 engine used in some Z cars. The host is mentioning it because those specific Z cars seem to be getting salvage titles often.
A salvage title means the car was once considered a “total loss” by an insurance company. Even if you fix it and it looks good, the paperwork still shows it was totaled before. That can make it harder (and sometimes more expensive) to register and insure.
Willow Springs is a race track in California where people drive cars for track days. In this conversation, it’s used to illustrate that some cars might be built mainly for track use. That connects to the question of whether salvage cars can still be used on public roads.
Concept
frame elated
“Frame-related” means the damage is to the car’s main structure, not just panels or bodywork. Repairs to the structure are more serious and can affect safety. That’s why these cars often need extra inspections before they can be driven legally.
Structural damage means the car’s main safety structure is damaged. That’s more serious than dents or scratches because it can affect how the car protects you in a crash. Repairs can be harder to do correctly and harder to prove are done right.
Range anxiety is when you’re worried you won’t have enough fuel to get where you need to go. It usually happens when the car says you only have a short distance left.
Term
gas tanks are like literally like barrels on a stand
They’re describing a basic, old-school gas station setup where the fuel is stored in big containers up on stands and you pump it with a hose. The point is that it feels sketchier than a modern station.
The size of the fuel tank determines how many miles you can drive before you need gas. A smaller tank means you run out sooner, so it’s easier to get worried.
Your fuel pump is what sends gas from the tank to the engine. Keeping more gas in the tank helps the pump because it doesn’t have to work as hard to pull fuel from the very bottom.
A fuel filter is like a screen for your gas. It helps keep dirt and junk from getting into the engine.
Car
Ford Raptor
The Ford Raptor is Ford’s rugged off-road truck. Here it’s brought up because a 2018 example reportedly had a cracked engine at surprisingly low miles.
The F-150 is Ford’s pickup truck. It’s made for hauling and towing, but it can also be used like a normal daily truck. The episode mentions a Raptor version, which is a more off-road-focused F-150.
An engine swap is when you remove a broken engine and put in a different one. People suggest it when the damage is too big to fix cheaply.
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I'm doing great. Great to be seen now. Yeah, we're trying video here, you know, new studio,
new cameras, new, new stuff, you know, just playing with it tonight and see how things go,
man. No, for sure. I mean, it's, you know, it's, it's, we're still talking cars. So I'd say there's
nothing different there. Still, still got some cool topics to talk about, but, you know, it's
nice when you can. Obviously we've done a couple of these now in person as well, going to Willow
Springs and some other things that we've done. So it's always a little different when we get a
chance to do, do, you know, do that setup versus the regular. Yeah, I do prefer actually being in
person, doing like interviews in person, like doing things remotely. I know remote has been
popular from like COVID days and things like that. I remember first really using zoom during COVID
and I didn't really be a big zoomer as they call it, but zoom was like the big, the big rage
back then. I was like, everyone's doing zoom for everything and stuff. And I think now I just,
I think it's, you know, some people will send me like a zoom, we'll jump on a zoom call. Why don't
we just call me, me. We learned to bring technology into this little conversation
here. You know, why can't we just like, you know, or whatever. But anyway,
it's perfectly fine. We was just using land or just using call using our phones regularly.
Yeah. Yeah. What's wrong with that? You know, I'm, I'm more mobile as it is. I'm not behind
a computer desk. A lot of these folks are. So I mean, I get it. You know, you do the zoom thing,
but being that is a fantastic Saturday. How are things up in your neck of the woods?
Oh, they're great man. They're, they're actually pretty active up here as I've been
shared with you in terms of car culture. We had the Temecula rod run this weekend.
What is a rod and what is a run? They put it together with rod run. What is that?
Yeah. So rod can mean a lot of different things, but in this context, hot rod. So, you know,
nice, nice. Yeah. Now we say hot rod. What, what defines your definition of a hot rod?
If it were my definition, you know, really honestly, it kind of has to be a VA,
like an old VA kind of muscle. So not the Plymouth prowler.
Well, I was going to say though, there are some exceptions, like a Buick,
like GNX, like a grand national, like the, because those had the, the six cylinders,
like that, that still qualifies as a, as a, you know, as a hot rod to me just because of
what you're able to do. But for the most part, generally speaking, I'd say like something big
V8, you know, has a, has a nice grumble to it. And yeah, it kind of fits in that like pony car,
muscle car kind of realm that that's, that's where my mind goes when I think hot rod.
I think of like 30s, like, you know, what's it called chop roof, like fenders gone.
That is true. That's like extreme. Yeah. Like I do get your point on that.
Well, you got the big blower on the hood, you know, or what's left, the hood's gone.
The inch is just sticking there. It's got big fat tires in the back, you know,
maybe a little trunk hanging off the back end and, you know, it's slamming the ground.
That's my, I guess the classic thought process of hot rod, I guess it's kind of falls in that
camp, you know, if you, if you just like a like Googled hot rod and see images of hot rod cars,
you got kind of the typical like picture, which I think actually probably fits a little bit more
how you described it for sure. Yeah. But I think even like, you know, fairly, you know,
moderate, moderate muscle, but I think like something from the sixties, maybe even seventies,
maybe, I mean, I don't think anything from the eighties. Maybe it was like a Fox body
that's got the fenders removed and you got the engine, the blower stick on the thing.
And you can do some crazy stuff with cars. You really can. But hot rod to rod run.
And now is there like a, just like a cruise they do, or is it like a race or what is it?
So yeah, this is the first time that I was actually able to go to the cruise, which, you know, is,
is I didn't really know what that meant exactly. I thought that maybe they cruise through the town
and go do something else or whatever, but it's two days. And so the first day usually is the
cruise. And so a lot of the cars are coming into town and they have this section, basically this
sectioned off town, you know, area of old town where they'll, they'll kind of get everybody
situated. Then the second day is the show and shine car show. But the cool thing about the cruise
is that what they do is they had an area where all the cars would come in. And then they basically,
you know, the police and like, you know, blockades and things made this route. So the cars can
literally just circle, circle up and down old town as much as they want it.
Are they loud? They're like engines? Yeah, they, they got to a point like guys revving their engines,
like, you know, just blasting like all like, you know, the classic like rock and roll and everything.
And it's literally just a vibe, like the town, like all the sidewalks are full of people just
watching everybody walk by or watch every drive by. And, you know, it's just one of those things
where it's like, you really do feel like you're kind of transported to, you know, the 60s, the 70s
of like that kind of, you know, cruise hot rock culture. So we spent about like two hours just
watching the cars just go back and forth and, you know, here and here in the revving and grab,
grab dinner. And it was, it was a really cool experience for sure. We didn't make it to the
show and shine today, but, you know, I still had a show and shine. So that's basically just a car
show. So they make sense. I guess thought, you know, get the cars cleaned up,
let everybody check them out. And is that what indoors or outdoors? No, no. So luckily we had
good weather because last weekend we did not have good weather here in SoCal. And so they
the coolest thing about it is that, you know, if you've ever been here to Old Town Temecula,
there's like about three or four blocks that, you know, make up that little, that front street is
what we call it. Every single street is just lined with, you know, it's, I think they said
300 or 400 cars registered for the event this year. And every street you turn down is just
lines and lines of all of these awesome like muscle cars, custom bills, you know, but I've seen
like a group of these, like those, uh, those Lincoln Continentals, the, you know, the, the
flat body Continentals with the suicide doors, like came rolling in, you know, it's, it's such a
different experience. I feel like then, you know, cars and coffee and, you know, all those different
kinds of things just because of the time period and the type of cars you see. Well, you have some
cars and coffee that are themed like that. I would think, you know, I mean, but that sounds
pretty cool, man. Now, now these, now the sounds of the cars, can you tell whether ones have had
like nice piping done to the, to the engines? I mean, I'm sure they all start to sound the same
bro, right? Or are they, can you kind of tell like some sound better?
You get some, there, there were some Resto mod cars there that, you know, you were, there was one
Mustang that was, I believe it was pro-charged, but it was definitely packing a newer V8 than was
in that, than that Mustang stock. Like it was probably a crate, a crate coyote engine there.
Probably, it could have been anything to be honest, but you definitely could tell like
the tone, just the way that it rev that it was more modern of an engine than was in like the 65,
66 Mustangs. And so you had some guys that had, yeah, those full on Resto mob builds. And this
one guy, when he came in, like, you know, we heard it. And obviously he gave, he was having fun
giving some folks some revs. And, you know, you heard the, the pro charger and I don't think it
was twin turbo charged cause I've seen some guys do that. Oh, really? But you know, he was able
to conceal everything under the hood. So it wasn't like your typical, you know, super charger out
of the hood kind of deal, but thing was awesome. Like, you know, shout out to that guy. He happens
to be listening to the pod, but yeah, you get a mixture. Yeah. You get a mixture of both.
You sent me a picture today. Was that the one you're talking about?
No. So that was a different. Yeah. That was, that was, yeah, you're talking about the GT GT 500
Eleanor itself in the movie gone in 60 seconds. It was one of my favorite car movies. I mean,
I guess it kind of still, it's so corny though, but, but that chase scene at the end of the movie
featuring the Eleanor car, which is a 67 Shelby GT 500. It ran around LA, you know,
and the classic ridiculous jump on the bridge at the very end of the movie. So fun. But the,
where the engine sounded, I remember listening to it, having the surround sound speakers going and
they have the engine and the engine sounding great, you know, across the speakers and the,
the bass and all that kind of stuff. It sounded fantastic. So yeah, I could, I could literally
just play. I know you said, you mentioned that where you could just play just the car chase scene
over and over again. I bought the DVD just to watch the car chase scene over and over again. In
that part, this nice thing about having a DVD players, you can kind of skip to the scene you
want to watch or whatever. I was talking about that when my wife earlier, we don't have like
anything in the house that can play DVDs. I don't think I have it either. I don't think I have any
storage either. And I think about it. Maybe I do. I did buy a DVD player, but I think you can buy them
on Amazon. Anyway, everything on Amazon. If you really had to have a stack of DVDs there,
everything's got to be in stores. Nothing's here for that kind of stuff because I only brought
stuff over here that I absolutely needed to have, you know, versus the other place.
Speaking of which, I looked at, I was looking at houses today online. I found one that came across
my, my eye. That sounds like a pretty cool place. More on that later, but we'll see if I've even,
you know, we'll see about that. But anyways, the hot rods and the Mustangs. Mustangs are
super cool car. I love Shelby. I've been to the Shelby shop in Vegas almost every single time
I've been up there. I stopped by the gift shop and check out their museum. Have you ever been to
the Shelby shop in Las Vegas? No, I know you mentioned that. It's on my list because I didn't
even know it existed. So I got to check it out. I knew it existed because I drove by Vegas,
like driving into town when you drive like up to the first, I think the first exit for the strip,
I think it's, it's the one that's kind of by Mandalay Bay, which is like the first major resort
you come to when you get to like the street strip side. And then a little further down,
I think it's like a Tropicana, a Tropicana, maybe that's Tropicana. The next one is Flamingo,
but just before that, like literally like a block before that, you can see the Shelby like
warehouse on the right side of the freeway, the east side of the freeway. And every time I drove
by the place, I saw the thing. I was like, man, I want to check that place out and check it out.
And we looked into it one day. We were on a road trip. Actually, we were doing,
we were on vacation one time. We were flew into Vegas. We had some time down time before we flew
back home. So we went over there and checked it out and it was awesome. I was like a kid in a candy
store. The gift shop has got like everything swag. You can think of from license plate frames,
the t-shirts, the mugs, to like everything, you know? And of course I was like, I think I'd spent
like 300 bucks. That's right then. I like t-shirts and stuff like that, hats or whatever. And they've
got this museum where you can look, look around and see like GT 40s, Cobras, some newer stuff too.
Some, some race cars that were like dedicated race cars that were not street cars at all.
Some of those that were there. And the back, they've got this tour you can do where you go in
the back where it's actually, you can see through a big glass window, like a big window into their
machine shop where they're physically doing all the garage work on all their vehicles.
Let's take a big warehouse and every car's car or truck is on a lift and they're doing all the
stuff to it. So this is still an active like, you know, warehouse, you know, this is just a museum.
I think you can take your car in there and have it shelbyed or whatever.
But this isn't like their main headquarters though. Like they have that I do not know.
I do not know if it's every headquarters or not. And it's a big warehouse. Like I don't know. It's
a big place. It's a museum slash gift shop slash, you know, shop or whatever. But the shop is the
tour we did was looking in the shop area. We actually can take the tour and you can see them
working on taking back there. It's all glass. It's almost like, remember the old newborn babies
when they have like the glass and the dad said on one side, the babies are on the little nursery
side. It's kind of like that. The cars are like in the nursery, baby side.
And you're like behind the glass on the adult side of the parent side.
On this side, watching your little baby being born. I guess that's what I'm saying. Yeah,
like that's, that's how people feel. If you got your car there, like they're probably the same way.
Like my, my, my baby's being born, my Mustang baby. When I was there, I saw trucks though,
but I was there. I saw some F one fifties. They were doing some Shelby stuff to them.
Like your Raptors. Like you take a Raptor and take it in there and they do whatever they do to
them. I don't know. You know, you can take your truck. I mean, I know you're, you got the Roush
treatment on yours. I was kind of wondering if like Roush and Shelby don't like each other.
It was like, you know, like competition, you know, yeah. If you ever rolled up in that and they
like just, just shun you away. It's funny. I think you, I think there is, is there a Roush Shelby?
I think there, it's gotta be something. There's like, there's so many different combinations.
Hennessey, there's a black widow, something or other. There's Velociraptor. Have you seen that
one? Velociraptor. Yeah. That, I think that isn't that a Hennesse. That's a Hennessey. Yeah. Like
a Hennessey build version of Velociraptor. Yeah. I see. I see like a Shelby Hennessey.
Like it's all, all these different comp. Do money, do you throw a ton of money?
Even I was a link. I think Lincoln filter or something like, I think they're more like
on the Chevy side, I think, but they'll probably mess around with some of, but yeah,
like you said, there's a lot for sure. I was, one thing I was going to say though,
but, and you've mentioned this obviously with your, with your truck having the coyote VA as well as
there's another guy I follow on Instagram that basically got like, you know, one of the newer
like F 150 on the surface just looks like a straight work truck. Like, you know, the
Oh, talking about like the, the, it called the Mexican GTR. Yeah. I just, I never knew about
that until recently. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's basically my truck. Well, they're buying, they're
buying the, the work truck stock based mom, but they're getting it in four wheel drive. The reason
why they're getting it in four wheel drive is so they have the all wheel drive. So it's like a GTR.
It's all wheel drive kind of deal, but I've never really like launched my truck in that four wheel
drive also. I've never launched my truck in four wheel drive to see what it can do or whatever.
I mean, I heard that her, you can break stuff. We start messing with that kind of stuff, you know,
especially on like pavement or whatever kind of deal. I have, I play, I mean, I play with them.
I haven't like put it for all drive and punched it kind of deal. But, but yeah, those trucks aren't
cheap either though, because I remember I was at the dealership for something out of those buying
my truck or ex-wife's car or something. They had a truck like that in the, in the showroom floor.
It was like a just a regular cab, Ford F 150 with a coyote. I think they wanted a lot of money for
it. I think, I don't think they wanted like 50, 60 grand. Yeah. They, they know, they, they know
balls. So they're like, we're going to, we're going to make sure we're not letting this thing
just walk off the showroom floor without, without getting that's dues. But the Mexican GTR is just
so funny that that's like, you know, I've heard the term before, but I never, I never knew it was
about that. Yeah, I guess so. But I mean, I mean the car, the engine is pretty fast. I've got the
third gen coyote engine. I think they're on a fourth gen now. And they say mine's better than the
fourth. I think the difference, they might have added like a few horses more on the, on the latest
version, but the latest version has that stupid cylinder shut off. And mine doesn't have that.
So the cylinder shut off, I guess it shuts off four cylinders. We got the freeway or whatever,
deactivates cylinder deactivation. Chevy's had that, a lot of car companies have had that
like going way back then. I think Dodge had it too, way back in the day. And I don't know how well
it works or if it's healthy for an engine to do that. Do you think it, yeah, you got a piston
bouncing around in the engine still, but not being fired. Is that how it works? I guess,
because it's had piston, but it's moving around still in the crank.
Yeah. I mean, it's, it's interesting because I know that Chevy's had it for a while. Like that was
that's how like the Corvette's like have always like had crazy, crazy great gas mileage is because
they've been using that for a while on those. And I haven't, you know, I'm not in that world,
but I haven't heard that that be a like a major issue. Like there's certain things with cars that
like they'll come like with a certain feature from the factory, but when people, you know, when it
gets to a certain age, people start finding like delete kits and like how to override that because
it actually starts to cause issues. But I haven't heard that be something in the Corvette community
at least that like people try to, you know, try to remove. So makes me think that they kind of
found a way to make that reliable. I'm guessing, but, or maybe there's a mode to shut that off.
Maybe, you know, just like there is the mode to shut off the auto start. Stop. Your car
probably doesn't have it cause it sticks you up, right? And your car doesn't do the auto start.
It doesn't do. Yeah. And not, not even the main, the automatic, they don't likely that
hadn't made its way into there either. Are you sure? Because I thought it was mandatory for
like all cars. No. Cause I, I've driven the first, but I, before I bought my car, I drove a DCT
version of mine and, and it didn't have it. It's got all the other like lane departure,
you know, where you actually have to hold it and, but it didn't have, it didn't have auto shut off.
I always turn it off. And at times I forget to turn it off and the car truck dies on me at the
stop light. I get so annoyed at like hit the button on the dash and like, yeah, but I always
turn it off. I think everybody turns it off. It's, you know, I first got the truck. It didn't have
the exhaust set up yet. And so it was kind of quiet. And so it did turn off. I didn't even turn
off at the radio going, whatever, you know, turned off, but the air conditioning kind of
felt kind of weird because it, don't forget the air conditioning now.
Cause at a certain time, yeah. Well, the air conditioning now is trying to pull off the
battery now, not, not the actual like motor. And so I was like, that's weird. And then I was like,
this doesn't sound right. You know, whatever. But, but once you get the actual like exhaust on the
thing, and it did sound amazing when I got the exhaust opened up, because I bought the truck,
they sell it kind of like with the exhaust on there, the Roush exhaust on there, but they kind
of cap off one of the actual pipes. There's two pipes on exhaust. There's a loud pipe. I guess
it's a soft pipe. I don't know, but they kept the loud pipe and they pull the, pull the little plate
off. I didn't take the shot. I didn't take it back. They're making an appointment. They pull it off,
but, but they sell it kind of a quiet, but this thing's got an exhaust on the thing. It sounds
like a regular, regular truck. It doesn't sound like it's nothing special about it. You know,
and they're like, bring it back. Come, come to, on the backside of the building and
we'll figure this thing out. Yeah. After I bought the thing, they, they took an appointment and
took it back there and they, they did the little cap. I think I have the cap in my glove box.
There's a little metal plate, you know, like this covers one side of the exhaust. And so
it now sounds good. I mean, I think it sounds really good. And I've heard like valet take the
truck away from me and things. I'm like, yeah, things are pretty good. Especially when you're
getting like in like that sport mode, it gets really loud. I think it's a really nice sound.
And those coyotes sound great too. And I know that I think I sent you a video saying that like
there was a video where another podcast or show was saying how the coyote V eight is like the
best V eight you can buy, like out there, like better than LS, better than all of them, because
all the things you can do to it and how much power it makes and how you can twin turbo the thing and
throw boost and the thing and, and super charge a thing and whatever to the thing, you know,
and it makes a lot, lot of power out of the box. And I mean, I'm, I'm sure you can
break it. It's aluminum. It's an aluminum motor. So you probably can, that's the thing. Like,
when you start getting crazy boost numbers, you really have to have like an iron block
like, like the, like the, you know, the two Jay-Z or maybe the two Jay-Z so popular with
boost and getting crazy numbers. The fact that it has an iron cast iron block, not an aluminum one.
Now the aluminum one's lighter. I get it, but aluminum is like a tin can.
When you're, yeah, when, when you're really pushing, I boost, you need, you need that extra
strength. Is yours aluminum, do you know your engine? I don't know. I'm going to look that up
actually. I, I'm not sure. You know, it's a, obviously just overall lighter motor, but yeah,
I'm curious actually given that the car itself is pretty light for what it is. Like I would kind
of assume that it's, that it's aluminum, but yeah, we'll see. Well, that's one thing I knew
about the, when Ford was talking about doing their eco boost engines, especially the 2.7 for the
F 150, they were bragging about how it has a cast iron block and the like five O's aluminum
and things like that. I, I'm not sure what the 3.5 you go boost. It might be also a cast iron. I'm
not sure because they're running boost of those things. They're trying to, I don't know, I do a
boost level. They got those things at, but they only make sure they can tow and haul and do things
like that and things like that. So you gotta be able to put it through his paces. Yeah. But,
but the thing is that you wouldn't mention today on the show is that Shelby is dropping their name
from the Ford Mustang lineup as of like yesterday or recently, I should say.
Pretty recently. Yeah. Yeah. And at the reason why, which is kind of fascinating when you think
about it, I didn't think about this because for a while now, I remember when the Shelby name came
back was probably, when did they make like their first, like a big return? Cause I know they had
Mustang, the V six, of course, and they had the V then they had the GT and then they had, and then
I think the 05, 07 Mustang is when they came out with a GT 500. Was it around then?
Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah. Yeah. So GT 500, the Ford, I think they called it Shelby.
They called it the Shelby GT 500. It was a Shelby GT. Yeah. That's right. And that was
some time around then. And then they made lots of versions of the GT 350. I think that was also
called Shelby, right? The GT three Shelby. And then of course the 500, of course. And was the
actual GT Ford GT GT, was that called Shelby? You know? No. So that was always a Ford. That was
always like a Ford GT. They didn't, they didn't have the Shelby. They didn't have the Shelby
moniker on those, which was something interesting that I was, I was hearing about that of the GT,
but then also the Cobra name was, was something where people were like, why is, why is that never
come back? And they were wondering if there was a little bit of tie in with that because they did
have Shelby Cobra's and then they did have, you know, Cobra Mustangs with like Shelby, you know,
tied to it as well. And so there was, there was some people kind of speculating. There was SVT
Cobra's remember? There were, yeah, you're right. Yeah. Which that's still like hands down one of
my like, I love those like late nineties, like the SVT Cobra and the Cobra are like with the crazy
like squared wing in the back. Like I think they only came in like three colors or something like
red, yellow and black or something like that. But those were cool. Side exhaust too. Oh yeah. I
remember those. Yeah. I remember those. And they kind of, the saline version of the car looked
something like that too. Had a whip crazy. That was another one actually, another of the tuning
companies. Yeah. Saline, I kind of forgot all about them. Yeah. They had their gamut on a lot
of stuff. Of course, Rouse, I'm not sure how when Rouse jumped in the scene, probably pretty early
too, I think. I think some Roushes that were like from the, you know, maybe nineties, early
2000s, I think of some Roushes that came out and for Shelby and the Shelby Cobra, do you remember
the, the like, it's like a flashback prototype they made of the Shelby Cobra. I mean, like mid 2000s.
I don't think so. Oh, I do. Yeah. It was like, I do remember that. It looked like a classic Shelby
Cobra, but like a really chiseled modern. This is like the mid 2000s. Remember mid 2000s where
everything was like coming retro, like the Chrysler 300 and like, of course the, what else was
there? They had like the, it was the PT Cruiser, I think the PT Cruiser. Yeah. The SSR, you remember
those? The Chevy SSR. What was the Dodge, Dodge Magnum thinking of it? It was like a ticket.
It's like front end, supposed to be all like, you know, you know, modern chiseled in the back.
It's like a mini, I mean, even have like a station wagon or whatever kind of deal.
I've seen too many of those. So I thought, I thought it was a pretty hot car when it came out
because it was like, it's the coolest looking station wagon ever. That was like, I see those
every once in a while. And I see like, dude's really like, you know, max out some power with
those things. But I mean, that was a cool era where you could have like that powered that SRT
powertrain with, you know, with, with, in a wagon, like, you know, that was a cool era. I will say
it was a, it was a weird thing with the SSR, the kind of that same generation. I posted a video
a while back where I saw, I saw three SSRs in one day, just unironically, like just driving around,
like doing their own thing. And, and two of them were in the same like vicinity of each other.
And that's like, I feel like that's one of the rarest things is to see the, see an SSR once,
but to see two that like aren't like at a car show or anything. Like, you know, it's, it's an
interesting, it was an interesting era where we were doing some, some pretty interesting rest of
mods for sure. Right. And I think that's like that kill cobra I thought was going to come out
was it was a, was a show, was a Shelby Cobra replica or not replica of Shelby Cobra, like
flashback retro modern looking Cobra kind of had that same vibe. It kind of reminded me of
something you see from like, like a mixture of, of the Dodge Magnum kind of styling, you know,
where it's kind of like these weird lines and kind of like boxy door handles and kind of weird,
you know, kind of stuff. And, and I'm like, yeah, it seems pretty cool. Like I always love the Cobra
name. I thought Shelby Cobra is my favorite car. Like classic cars of all cars is got to be a classic
AC Shelby Cobra. Really? Yes. Cause I was good. I know we were fighting about the Eleanor because
that's Eleanor be mine, but I could, that's cool that the Cobra is yours. 100% man. Like
I, every time I see one there, now they've got machine shops that actually make them
like replica shops and things. Most of them, if not like 99% of them you see are all replicas,
but they're nice. So two, they put like modern engine, like a coyote or something in there.
And they've got, it's got modern braking and modern suspension and it just, and they, and they
be able to like, you know, newer paint to make it look great. And then, you know, the body work
looks great and fit and finish. I mean, it looks like a real modern, nice car. And I'm like, that's
pretty cool. Yeah. If it was listening out there right now, want to give me something for Father's
Day? You know, or a birthday coming up, whatever. Yeah. There you go. I mean, enjoy your ride.
Let me drive. Yeah, just, yeah, just, just let me ride in it. Let them ride in it.
I'll give you the keys. Let me try this thing. Come on. Come on now. But the reason why that
Shelby is no longer going to be on the Mustang moving forward, they're moving with a new name
called dark horse, which at first the dark horse name, dude, I wasn't really sold on it.
I was kind of like, I don't know. It seems kind of gimmicky, you know, what's next unicorn? You
know, I mean, you remember that one Katy Perry song dark horse? No, it was sorry. I could say
right now. No, I have not. The only reason that it like really, I mean, obviously like a lot of
her stuff would mainstream too, but I think it was like Wiz Khalifa or somebody like one rapper
or something was on it too. But when the, it first came out, because I was like,
you know, my like, you know, late high school, like, you know, college, you know,
time frame when that song came out. I got some Katy Perry songs too. I get it. I'm sensing the
judgment here. No, I do. I do. I'm fine with me, man. I do. I rock, I rock out her. It was at
Friday night, like with my jam. What's the, you know, I forget. I guess the girl, of course,
the classic. Yeah. Well, you, and you get Miley Cyrus in there, party in the USA and all of that
stuff. I heard that song the other night at the gas station rocking. I'm like, Oh yeah,
I saw our concert. I forgot about that. Yeah. No, but, but that, like that, that's what my
mind went to when, when that car first came out, but it was, it was pretty cool that they were
kind of making this like not overly crazy, you know, GT 500-ish type car, but because that was
what people liked about the GT 350 and the 350R is that it's like a, it's like a smaller version
or a lower, a cheaper version than the big daddy. It wasn't supercharged. It was just,
they weren't supercharged. Were they the, the, no, they were both, both were in it,
even though they had two different motors. They're the Voodoo engine. So the, the Rs did,
the Rs had the, the Voodoo, the flat plane crane, the, just the GT 350 alone still had
like a version of the coyote. But yeah, people loved them for that reason, just that they were,
just more of like, they were step up obviously from a GT, but, and they had a lot more like
handling benefits too. But you know, it was, it was, it, you weren't going crazy with a GT 500 power
level. And you know, the dark horse definitely fit into that. And I think for a while, a lot of people
have been wondering like, when are we going to see another Shelby? When are we going to see
another Shelby? But we finally figured out why we're not going to see another Shelby.
And why is that courage? Money.
What are you telling me people? These businesses are in business to make money.
Are you kidding me? What's up with that?
They, they're made, they want to make money and they, they want to make sure that they
aren't, aren't just giving people money just for the sake of giving people money.
And what came to the, the Shelby name is that Ford themselves had to pay a bunch of money
just to use the name on the car. Like that's all really was to it. I don't think Shelby
themselves had anything to really do with the car. Maybe a little bit, maybe at the beginning,
but I don't think like, the Ford like takes a car, drops off and Shelby American
and say, Hey, make this cooler and faster. Put your name on it. I don't think it works that
way. I mean, I don't know, but I don't think it does.
I think it was a certain point where it was just so integrated with the models that it was,
it was basically a Ford operation with, you know, with Shelby's involvement,
maybe in like development or something like that. But, you know, it's the sad thing is,
is that, you know, so no, we no longer have Carl Shelby with us anymore.
And you know, there's the RIP Carl Shelby, the, the, the, the mad man he was just like, you know,
he lived beyond his years though. He was expected to go like way, way longer ago and he made it
to how old was he like 90 or something? 90 something. Yeah. Maybe 80 something. I don't
know. It was up there, but, but yeah. So Ford does want to shout the money for the, the name
Shelby. I mean, I, I get it too. I mean, you want to move in a new direction, you know,
take the car, a new, new direction, this whole dark horse mode, which I think honestly,
I think Shelby sounds better. You know, it's got the heritage behind it. It's got the, you know,
branding behind it. People know what it is when they, when you say Shelby, they kind of,
they kind of get it. You know, you say dark horse and you're like, what is this like?
It's a pony. What is this like? I guess you, it is a pony car, but yeah.
What are we doing here? This is my little pony show. What is this? You know, like
dark horse. I don't know. Like,
and that's, that's the, the direction that a lot of people are leaning is like, yeah, like,
you know, at the end of the day, it was a badge and, and it was, you know, it was a name and it
was again, something that was so integrated in the Ford that, you know, it was still like a Ford
product at the end of the day. But, but yeah, I mean, you know, the Shelby name tied it into
all of that history like previously. And again, you know, for people like us, like going back to
gone at 60 seconds in Eleanor and all of that, like, you know, it really like brought in, you know,
Mustang that kind of stay in that realm. And so again, going dark horse, like they, they did well
with the car itself, like the dark horse is awesome car, but not having that lineage, I think it's
going to be, it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out longterm. You know, I wonder
if people are going to buy like badges, like Shelby badges and just slide on the car or whatever.
And people do that. People put like, you know, I know people who had the V six Mustang before
what EcoBoost, they had a 3.7. These are one of my biggest pet pee was the 3.7 badge you put on
the side. Well, just up, up badging cars, like in general, like I'm saying, I'm saying like,
you're like, you know, it is a 3.7. Oh yeah. And they just get something to say. Yeah,
there's a 3.7 badging by input on the door. It's like the 5.0. In fact, it's funny is that
my other truck was also a 5.0 Coyote like this one is. And I bought the 5.0 badge and I stuck
them to the side of the car truck right below the F one 15, the door. I put a 5.0 badge on both
sides right there. Boom, boom, right. And in fact, the one of the badges I got, I think they were
off of or for the Fox body 5.0. Cause I think the, cause the newer 5.0 looks a little different.
The actual five and the point that the actual scripting looks different than the old 5.0 ones.
But nonetheless, 5.0 badge on the 5.0, there you go. So I wonder if someone's going to do
something like that with their dark horse, probably not. I mean, it's been a hundred
grand on those things. They're probably like, don't want to mess with those things. You know,
we looked at it last time. I know we had talked about it. I just did not know that they were
like, they were base and base MSRP over a hundred. Like, I mean, it is, it's a great car,
but I just really did not know that that was their starting price. And obviously now with
the SC coming out, like, you know, that's now, now I guess going to for sure be at least like 150,
if not more, because they got to sort of bridge this gap now that they got with that G D T or G
G T D. Now that one is like 350 or something ridiculous. 350. And it's only, it's only two
seated, right? I think I'm thinking of a backseat and I think it's no, no, because the backseat is
taken up by the visible suspension, which probably, I mean, I'm sure it's cool or whatever. Hey,
speaking of suspension, I got to take my Z into the shop and get it worked on. I, you know, my Z
is got, we found this out by like the actually squinting through the wheel well and around
like the very tight, like very low wheel gap it's got, you know, because the car is lowered
to see what kind of suspension my car has. So I know that I, I, when I took it in for
inspection, the guy at the mechanics had had aftermarket suspension, but it's all he said.
He didn't say what it had. Didn't say nothing about the thing. So I had no idea what it's had.
And the car does run very rough over any bump in the road,
anything. I mean, in these roads around here are not the smoothest. Even sometimes we have a smooth
road. It does feel a little like, you still feel like the like almost like riding on the rim
kind of like, imagine having no suspension and like riding a bicycle with a flat tire,
like, you know, like nothing, it feels like that. I'm like, that's crazy. So,
so I'm peeking in there and I can see that the, I see some shock absorber or coil over. I look,
I can see on there, I can see some riding on the coil over. I'm like, what brand is that? I'm looking
at it and says fortune auto. Okay. So I found, as I looked at the ones that are real, the rear,
and I looked at the ones at the front, I can see they're both the same brand. So these,
they got a matched up. So they had like some, some my hodgepodge, you know, clapped out system
where it's kind of like different shocks at every corner or whatever kind of thing.
At least it's the same, same stuff. It's okay. So I look them up, fortune auto, make good stuff
for the most part. Their system, like they have a few different like coil over system for the Z
they make and then roughly around two to $2,500 for the, for the setup. If you go for some good
stuff, right? I mean, it goes a little higher than that, I think. So I took it to a special shop
last week as record this to see it, ask them if they can help me fix these and adjust it.
Cause they know they should be billed, be adjusted and they are adjustable, but I don't know what
I'm doing. And I don't have the tools or the space to like put on a lift and do all the alignment
and all that kind of stuff. So they said they'll take care of it next week for me. I got to drop
it off and see what they're going to do. But they did say that they've done porches with the system
very similar to this and they fixed it. Cause it was doing the same thing for that car and he
got it all dialed in right. So I don't want it to be like a super soft like, you know,
you know, off-road truck kind of thing where you're kind of floating over stuff. I want it,
I want it to, to be, not to feel like it's rattling the back of the car apart when I
go over everything, which is basically what it feels like right now. Basically, I don't want to
feel like I'm just driving a rock down the road, but I also don't want to flip stone style.
Yeah. I don't want to be like, you know, complete cushy cloud, like, you know,
he says they'll adjust. They know what they're doing. They specialize in lowered cars and
coilover kits and lift kits. It's not, it's like I went to like, you know, I don't know,
Jiffy Lube or whatever kind of place. Fix these for me. Right. Right. I'm actually taking it to a
place that specializes in this kind of stuff and they're familiar with this system. They're
already familiar with it with the, with the coilovers I have. They know how to adjust them
and fix them and all that kind of stuff. So I'll take you. So cross cross some fingers. We'll
see how much it's going to cost. I got to take it in there next week. As we record this, we will
see how it goes. Hopefully a nice smooth ride and it's not all like damaged. And then I mean,
I don't know, man. I mean, I know owning a car, you know, especially a used car, lots of miles
and stuff, things come up. You got to get things fixed, you know, you got to get things worked on.
I get it. And I think this is one of those things where I'm like, man, it's really,
really rattly in this car. Even when you try to go over things really slowly, it makes it,
it's like, it makes it worse. It's like, it's really bump, bumpy and bouncy. You feel everything.
And it's, I mean, I don't know. That's why I haven't looked at it and have them adjust them. If they
can be adjusted, adjust them. Well, I know how it is in San Diego. Cause whenever I, I'd say it all
the time, whenever we go down to San Diego and actually like are in, in the city, I'm like,
you know, I drive around pretty much with like the, the car in like full in mode, like my car with
like, you know, the stiffest, like dampening and suspension because here, like rows, they're like,
pretty great. Like there's only a few rows. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, when, when people say, oh, like,
so Cal, like rows, I'm like, yeah, we were kind of different over here a little bit, but it's,
it's mainly cause we got a lot of wide open roads. And like, even within the neighborhoods,
you got all of these like, you know, newer builds, probably new builds. And yeah. So like the rows
and things are a lot nicer. But when we go down to San Diego, like instantly, like I'm like,
it has to be in the softest setting. Cause like, you know, bumps and things, like you,
you feel a lot of that. And you feel like you get that, like where you're just, you feel like
you're just inside of a washing machine, like, you know, just like feeling every single shift
and everything. And so I can, I can definitely kind of attest to that, to where like, if you're,
if you're dampening off and, and you're really overdamped,
I think like one inch of travel, probably in the rear, it feels like one inch of travel,
which is basically nothing. And so every, every single, like a bottoms out or whatever it does,
like hits the bump stops or whatever it was on there, it hits it. And you feel it jarring
through the entire chassis of the vehicle. So like it bumps the back rattles, but you feel the,
the, the back, back hatch, rattle and shake around and like every, everything's rattling,
really bad in the back. It's a long term. It's like, it's probably not that great for the car
either. Like, you know, I, and I find the thing is, I think the guy who owned the car lived up by you.
And so maybe he was used to the smoother roads, like, it's no big deal or whatever, you know,
but be down here at every story. I don't know. But, but yeah, hopefully get that worked on
coming up soon and speak of the Z's. You know, you said that, and I've said this,
but you said that it's very rare. Do you see the newer Z like on the road, like, like, you know,
they're almost like a unicorn. And you see when you like, you know, check it out. Like, wow,
wow, check that. Do I saw one going to work the other day? I was driving to work and I saw one
on the road and I was like, whoa, look at that new Z. Maybe it was my work truck, but it was,
I saw one on the freeway. I'm like, well, check that. Actually it looks just like a pretty cool
looking car because I think one of those things where like, you see pictures of it and maybe you
see it on Instagram or videos or whatever, that kind of stuff, but some cars, sometimes you got
to see one person to kind of like admire them, especially next to other cars too. To like,
you see him with like in a crowd of other vehicles, you see him, you're like,
that's a pretty cool looking car. That stands out. Yeah. Although that we said they haven't
been selling very much and which kind of sucks, but they are expensive. Even on the used market,
you were looking up earlier tonight, like even on the used market, they're like in the 40s.
Yeah. They're still, they're still holding in the 40s and they use, you know, which I don't think
is like cheap, but I mean, what do I know? You know, I mean, I mean, compared to a Ferrari,
it's dirt cheap, but compared to like, I don't know. I mean, you know, I picked up my car for
less than half of that, you know? So, so I guess, I guess it's kind of one of those things where I
guess it all depends, but, but tonight or tonight or recently, there was an accident
here in town and of all the cars that were gotten involved in this crash.
I didn't really think of just how coincidental all of that was. And it was like in, you know,
it's in our vicinity and it being a Z. Yeah. A new, a new modern Z. A new modern Z crashed out
and I don't have a hit something, but the airbags were deployed and it crashed out. Looks like it
did, according to what the police were saying, it looks like they were based on the tire skin marks
that it looks like they were doing donuts in the street, lost control or something like that.
And then just slid into like the side section of the road and hit something and then hit the curb
at something. I don't know what the car from the video I saw looked fairly intact. I didn't see
any major dense. Did you see any dense? I just saw like the, the airbags were deployed. It's all
I really can tell. Yeah. I don't know if they just maybe didn't make do because it seemed like they
were more deployed on one side. Like it, it looks like slid to that side. Like, like he slid to the
slide. Like if you lose control, you just sliding that side that hits. Maybe that's a side that got
the sensors went off and that's the side that the airbags went off on.
And I kind of wonder about that, but it's, I didn't see like, yeah, to your point though,
like it didn't seem like massive jet. Like you just didn't see pieces of, you know,
bumpers and plastic and everything all over the place. So, you know, it must have just been,
yeah, I don't know if maybe they just took like one brunt to the side and you probably got a big
dent like on like in the door panel or something like that. But, you know, it definitely was enough
to, to get the airbags deployed, which at the side of all that, you know, I kind of wonder,
because it deployed the airbags, do you think it's considered now a salvage title?
I would think so. Like it, you know, it, it, it always depends on, you know, just value of the
car versus how much it would cost to fix it. But, you know, I would assume that that is probably
told. Well, it's definitely going to be a black mark on their car facts. It'll say like airbags
deployed. When I saw my car facts has all the checklists on their like Odomen rollback, airbags,
deployed salvage title, that kind of stuff. And a lot of the Zs, unfortunately the VQ Zs,
a lot of them are salvage title. In fact, in fact, there's one at this dealership.
It looks just like mine. It's like maybe a couple of years older, same color and everything,
down street my parents house and it's for sale in their lot. And a guy I work with was talking about,
you know, picking it up because we have a delivery down the street from there and he drove
by and he told me about it. I said, really, let me check this thing out. I drove by, I saw it,
and I went online and looked it up. Sure enough, it was an automatic and it was salvage title.
Oh man, yeah.
Just curious of your thoughts on just salvage title in general. Like obviously, like probably not
for say like a daily, like a car that you really are like dependent on, but for you, like a salvage
title, just the automatic, like under no circumstances, you would, you would never touch it or
I gotta find out the truth on this story because I've heard two sides of this coin. I've heard
they're literally impossible to register and ensure. And I've heard the opposite where you can
register and ensure them. So I don't know what's true and what's not true because I've heard both
sides and they both seem to be legitimate. Of course, the last guy who's had a cars and coffee
and he was telling him that his car was salvage title and I asked him about it. I said, no,
you just take it in and you tell him it's salvage and they write it up and ensure it and whatever
all kinds of stuff. I said, sure. Yeah, yeah. But I don't know how you get the registration
figured out. That's the thing. I got to get somebody on here to ask them about like how,
how is it like, what's the procedure like to get a salvage title car like usable,
you know, like to be able to use it on the street or whatever. I mean, or, or, or are they only for
track use? Like I would, if you're going to build like, like say a Z track car, like this one's just
stop at Willow Springs. Like some of those like 33 fifties we saw on trailers,
maybe they're salvage titles that there's told just gutted every built for track only
as long as the major because, because some of those Z's like, I heard that if I heard this,
I read this, that a certain percentage of the car gets damaged, then, then a salvage title
or certain percentage of the value. Is that what it is? Yeah. And they could, you know,
it ultimately can be something that's not even really like that, you know,
not necessarily even like frame elated or something. It just might have just been something
that yeah, it just went, it was more than the value of the car. It's still a simple fix,
but they just totaled it out because of that. And so yeah, you might have an instance where it's
like, it's a good car all around. Like it was repaired properly, but it still has a salvage
title. And, you know, that, that's where I, that's what that question comes from is that,
you know, obviously if it's something that, you know, has been in, you know, straight up,
you know, if it was sideswiped or has like massive frame damage to somebody trying to repair,
like anything is like structural, like damage type stuff where, you know, I mean,
I don't know. I was kind of curious that myself because you can get some good deals on some
stuff that salvage title, but how do you, you even get it like registered, insured,
safety, like how, how do you even go through all that stuff? Like, like all the, all the little
hoops you got to go through just to get a, just to save a thousand bucks or 2000 bucks or whatever
it is, you know? Yeah. It's for me in the day, it's like paying the butt, you know, like it was
going to cost you more time to get something done. That's why it's, I don't drive like, you know,
all over town to save, you know, 50 cents on gas. I saw a post today, I was making,
they were talking trash about like, it was a post, I think you're in Utah and this girl's like
filming like a cause of this, like a Costco gas station and she's walking around cause this gas
station, by the way, it's like nobody getting gas there. It's like really empty, like four cars,
no one's there. And they're bragging about it's like four, 50 a gallon or whatever it is. He says,
it's all my California friends, you want to save money on gas? Come over here. I'm like,
it would cost me literally two tanks of gas just to get there. And then just to get by and gas
come back. What's the point in that? You know, like, but there's a gas station about the gas
station that's across street from the other gas station in Nevada. I think it's Nevada or
Arizona. Maybe it's Arizona. Anyways, next to the border, there's a gas station on the California
side and there's a gas station on the other side of the border. It's like $3 or $2 cheaper.
And the California gas station, no one's buying gas at. Of course they drive by it and you go
across the border and get the gas there and drive home or whatever they do. So I wonder if you live
in a border town, the California borders like Arizona or Nevada, if you just jump over the
other side and get gas and then come back. If it is like literally like cheaper, it's not always
cheaper. It's depends or whatever. But for me, it's like, I don't know. Like the time it takes me
to run around town or run over there and we do all the kind of stuff, you know, I might as well
just like eat the cost here and move off my life. And I just, I have like go-tos like,
luckily I have a gas station like right outside of my like, you know, where we're at here
community. And so I just drive out and usually grab gas there. But and plus I got an app that
I get cash back on as well. Like when it helps out. Yeah. And so, you know, I just go there and
then obviously if I'm just somewhere else, like I am particular, I know you did a really good,
you know, pod on just talking about like grades of gasoline and what, you know,
the additives that certain, you know, brands use versus like, you know, brand, like non brands,
I call them that, you know, just, you know, more of those like Joe's gas.
Like, you know, those, those under there, what I did have to go to one of those Joe's gasses
recently actually with a, I went up to a, actually, I'll maybe share a little bit on this later,
but went up to a film shoot actually, and it was way up and it was going towards like Ramona
or actually going towards Julian, but there's an overlook right as you're kind of coming around
that bend to where Julian is. And, and I went up and, and I was thinking like, oh, you know,
I got enough gas. I had about a hundred miles left on the tank and I didn't really realize how far
out it was. And so coming back as I'm like, it's night, you know, it's dark outside and I'm like,
I only got 30 miles of range and it says it's 50 miles back home. So I'm like, okay, I gotta,
I gotta find a shot or a gas station somewhere. And there was a good point where I didn't see
anything. Like I was like, okay, this is, this is getting a little hairy, but you got the range
anxiety in the car, the car and the gas car was kicking in for sure. But luckily I did find a
place that I think it was a reservation out there. And it wasn't bad. I guess, you know, it wasn't bad.
Yeah. You gotta be worried. The ones where the gas tanks are like literally like barrels on a stand
and the guy's got a garden hose. It's like, I screw my parents actually got gas at a place
like that. They were road tripping somewhere. I think up Northern California or Arizona somewhere
and they said the place they went to the kids, you know, at the gas tank station was like that.
It was like on bear, like little barrels on, on sticks, on stands, up in the air elevated
with like this little garden hose looking thing and a little nozzle. And that's, and they had
like a little meter on there kind of thing, a crank meter or some kind. And it was like,
that's how they did to get gas. Yeah. Like no thanks. You know, anything could be in there.
Oh, rusted, whatever. It could just be some water or whatever.
Who knows? But, but, but that's the thing with, with gas and different things like that. I know
that your car does have a very small tank. So I can see where like range anxiety for me would come
in good kick in a lot. I mean, it's like a 10 gallon tank in a thing, 11 gallon tank.
12, yeah. 12, 12.9 or 12.5 or something like that. But do you do, do you do the thing where
when you're running low on gas in a stick shift, just put it neutral on every hill you can,
like cruise it neutral down the hill. Yeah. You start, you know, either you like,
you know, make sure you shift like in the highest gear as you can, as quickly as you can. Or,
or yeah, like if you can coast, you know, try to coast a little bit more, pop it in neutral,
you know, the kind of sucky thing. I mean, it was, it was a little rainy and it was dark. So I
wasn't, I wasn't really like, but it was a nice road that I was on. And so like, you know, obviously
when you're on a nice road, you want to kind of, you know, enjoy it and like enjoy it, but I'm not
enjoying it at all. Cause I'm trying to make sure I get to the next gas station. Right. Right. I've
never, I haven't, because of range anxiety that I have, even with gas vehicles is that even though
gas is a crazy expensive right now. And I get it. I try to fill up gas as often as I can. My,
my car went down to like three quarters of a tank. I filled it up maybe even five gallon,
maybe one gallon down. I filled it up. I just kept on just topping it off. Oh,
there's a gas station. I'm going to pull in here and get some gas real quick. Boom.
It's so, so easy to just like tap your phone and like pay on the pump. And it's like, boom,
boom me out the door. No big deal. You know. And so yeah, I've been trying to keep my cars
topped off. If I can't speak to remind me, I, my truck is probably like three quarters,
maybe almost half. I don't know. But I probably just 222 types. You've seen that meme
before, right? Where it's like the two types of people, the, the, you know, I'm the filler
up person. You always fill the thing up three quarters. Got to fill it up. You know, I, I'm
definitely, I'm getting a little better about it, but I'm definitely a little bit more of
like the, I know my, I know my car type deal. Well, I don't travel like on long trips with
my cars, you know, that's probably why too. Like I'm not, I'm not doing like, like when
I went up to Will Springs in the Z, I had no idea what kind of mileage this thing's going to get.
I had no idea like how far the tanks going to get me or where the gas stations are, you know,
and stuff like that. So when I got up to like, I think I was maybe three quarters. I, I found
a gas station. I just topped it off. And then of course when I was in the, in the town we were in,
I got gas there. I think before we headed back and then I might have got gas somewhere. I don't
remember if I got gas again, but, but I was just trying to get the car full as I can, you know,
because I didn't, I didn't want to be stranded. I don't be stuck somewhere, you know, and stranded
or whatever. And I mean, idiot, you know, ran out of gas. And I also heard that it's probably
better for your fuel pump. If you keep, if you keep the car, like at least half a tank.
And so I, you're making it so your, you know, fuel, your fuel pump isn't like needing to like
basically try to sip, sip through. It's like when you're like trying to get that last little bit
of like drink soda out of the, and it's this, maybe, you know, this isn't the most simplistic way
of looking at it. But yeah, like when your tank's lower, like, you know, you're, you're, it's basically
needing to siphon out like that, that, that little bit of fuel versus like obviously having more of
an abundance in the tank when, when you have more fuel in the tank. I also heard it sucks the bottom
it's like stuff that's filtered to the bottom, like a jump. I've heard that too. Yeah. But, but
most stuff, most there's, there's filters, fuel filter on your car. There's filters on the pumps
too. So I don't have much dirt and craps getting like in your car tank. I don't think a lot, you
know, and honestly, that's a separate issue. Like if you got like, you got some rust or floaties.
You got junk floating around in your gas tank. You got bigger problems to worry about. I love
watching all those videos where people are like, I turn engines apart and like see crap of their
engines and like, I saw one today. There was this auto shop in Utah that does post good stuff all the
time. And the guy posted this thing today showing a Ford Raptor is a 20, it was a 2018 Ford Raptor,
but the shocking thing he had a crack and like it was all crack. The engine was cracked. He
didn't need a new engine or whatever. I forgot what it was. But the interesting thing,
guess how many miles were on this 2018 Ford Raptor? How many miles his truck had?
110. 195. No way. That's what I was kind of shocked about too. I was like, what?
And people are saying like in the comments, including myself, just like swap that engine
out for Coyote. Just swap it out for, because they had the EcoBoost or whatever in there.
Just swipe it off and swap it for Coyote and be good to go or whatever. But it's a lot of miles.
I mean, I mean, that depends where you live. It depends what you do, where you live.
It's your only vehicle. You're running like all of your, you have to commute from like
St. Temecula to San Diego and you used it for like road trips and used it for like
everything else too. It's your everyday vehicle. I mean, I get it. You could,
miles add up fast. They do. I mean, it's all Hollywood. I was against the most part.
You said 16. So in 10 years, you're almost 18. I was an 18. Okay. So a little less than that.
But yeah, you're well over what 20,000 a year or something of that sort. You know,
20, 25,000 miles a year or something like that. Either they love their truck that much or they
have to commute to work or school or whatever. Either they love driving or they have to drive
a lot. Like I'm going to keep doing laps around the park or around the neighborhood district.
I love it so much. Kind of a thing. So, but speaking of driving, man, I know it's getting late
and I appreciate you stopping by today and coming on the podcast, man. It's always amazing
when courage is on the podcast. Yeah. I'm always glad to be here. Always glad to talk some cars
and you know, as usual too, I hope you guys are enjoying it because we love talking cars.
That's right. Hey, where can everybody find out about your YouTube channel? What is your
YouTube channel called? I don't see driven dad, but what does it get to? Yeah, I get to use this
thing. Yeah. The driven dad 22 on YouTube, Instagram got a new video coming out pretty soon
that actually kind of highlights our little trip out to Willow Springs and a little bit of that
too. So be sure to check that out. But yeah, if you're in the in car or any other car content
as well, feel free to check it out. All right. And with that, we will see you on the
very next episode. Don't go anywhere.
About this episode
Hot-rod culture kicks things off with a local cruise/show-and-shine format, then the conversation pivots to Ford’s Mustang branding shift away from Shelby toward “Dark Horse.” The hosts also tour the Shelby shop in Vegas and talk about modern restomods, forced induction, and badge culture. Later, Chris gets real about his Nissan 370Z suspension nightmare—aftermarket coilovers, harsh overdamping, and a plan for shop adjustment/alignment—plus a detour into Z crash/salvage-title concerns.
🔥 Welcome back to Cool Cars with Chris — the ultimate automotive podcast for car enthusiasts, muscle car fans, JDM lovers, hot rod builders, and performance car addicts.
In this episode, Chris and Courage dive deep into the legendary Temecula Hot Rod Run, one of Southern California’s coolest classic car cruise nights packed with vintage hot rods, classic Mustangs, custom muscle cars, V8 builds, restomods, and old-school American horsepower.
Then the guys tackle one of the biggest Mustang topics in the car world right now:
Ford is moving away from the legendary Shelby GT500 branding and replacing it with the new Mustang Dark Horselineup. Chris and Courage break down the REAL reason Ford dropped the Shelby name, the future of Ford Performance, Carroll Shelby’s legacy, GT350 vs GT500 history, Cobra Mustangs, and whether the Dark Horse can truly replace Shelby performance Mustangs.
Chris also shares the ongoing battle with his heavily modified Nissan 370Z suspension setup, discovering the car has expensive Fortune Auto coilovers installed and trying to solve one of the roughest sports car rides imaginable on rough Southern California roads.
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00:00 🚗 Intro – Shelby Is Dead?! + Nissan 370Z Problems 01:28 🎥 New Podcast Video Setup & Car Talk Begins 03:13 🔥 Temecula Hot Rod Run Explained 05:24 🏁 Cruising Classic Hot Rods Through Old Town 07:10 ✨ Show & Shine Car Show Highlights 08:18 💪 Restomod Mustangs & Supercharged V8s 09:30 🎬 Eleanor Mustang & Gone in 60 Seconds Memories 11:05 🐍 Touring Shelby American in Las Vegas 14:07 ⚔️ Roush vs Shelby vs Hennessey Builds 15:14 🚚 The “Mexican GT-R” Ford F-150 Explained 16:35 🔊 Why Ford’s Coyote V8 Is So Popular 22:09 🐎 Why Ford Killed the Shelby Mustang Name 24:11 🏎️ Cobra Mustangs, Retro Cars & Car Culture 28:05 🌑 Mustang Dark Horse vs Shelby GT500 30:09 💰 The Real Reason Ford Dropped Shelby 34:41 🔧 My Nissan 370Z Suspension Nightmare 36:22 ⚙️ Fortune Auto Coilovers & Rough Ride Problems 40:37 👀 Rare Nissan Z Sightings in the Wild 41:52 💥 Crashed Nissan Z & Salvage Title Debate 47:42 ⛽ California Gas Prices & Car Guy Problems 52:10 🤔 Are Salvage Title Sports Cars Worth Buying? 55:00 👋 Final Thoughts & Outro
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