NRMA Insurance is an Australian insurance company. They’re sponsoring the podcast, and they’re relevant because EVs can have different insurance considerations than older cars.
UNIDEN makes electronics like dash cameras. A dash cam records what happens around your car, which can help if you’re involved in an accident or dispute.
A dash cam is a camera mounted in or near the windshield that records driving footage. The hosts emphasize coverage in multiple directions (front and back) to improve peace of mind and documentation.
A rear camera (often part of a dash-cam setup) records what’s behind the vehicle. The host specifically recommends it because it helps capture incidents like reversing collisions, hit-and-runs, or events while parked.
With an EV, the first thing you do after getting home is plug it in so it can start charging. Your car’s screen will usually tell you it’s charging and help you understand how much time it’ll take.
Charge limit is the maximum amount your EV will charge to. If you don’t need a full battery every day, setting a lower limit can help the battery last longer and can finish charging sooner.
Your EV can guess how long charging will take. That helps you plan your day—like when you can leave or when you should plug in for the best timing.
Concept
charging at 80% vs 100%
Instead of always filling the battery to the top, you can choose a lower “max” like 80%. That usually helps the battery last longer, and you only charge to 100% when you really need the extra range.
The Dodge Charger is a car that can be discussed in terms of how you charge it. The podcast is likely covering where the charging port is, how the plug connects, and where you keep the charging cable in the car. This helps you know what to do when you’re charging at home or away.
Your EV can get software updates automatically over the internet. If it’s connected to your home Wi‑Fi, it can download updates without you doing anything complicated.
A SIM card is what lets the car use the mobile network for internet features. If your car doesn’t have one, it may only be able to do certain things when it’s connected to Wi‑Fi.
With the phone app, you can control parts of the car from far away—like locking doors or turning on the air conditioning. It uses the car’s connection to the internet to send commands and get updates.
The EV’s “range estimate” is a calculated number based on recent driving, battery state, temperature, and charging history. It can change over time and may look different depending on how you drive and how you charge.
Your EV’s “range” number isn’t always one permanent value. It can change depending on how you’ve been driving and the conditions. So if it shows less than the factory number, it’s usually because of your recent efficiency, not because something is wrong.
They use the Kia EV9 as an example of why your EV’s range estimate can move around. Even if you charge to 100%, the car may predict less range if you’ve been driving in a way that uses more energy. The point is to trust the estimate you’re seeing for today’s trip.
Concept
charging at home vs at work
The hosts emphasize that where and when you charge matters because it affects your daily energy availability and convenience. Charging at home is often straightforward for routine top-ups, while charging at work can support commuting and longer days. This is a key ownership consideration for EV buyers.
A “granny charger” is a nickname for the slow charger that’s usually included with an EV. It’s meant for charging over longer periods, like overnight. It’s not the kind of charger you’d use to quickly refill on a road trip.
They’re talking about a normal wall plug. The portable charger uses that outlet to send power to the car. It’s useful because you don’t always need a special charger installed at home.
Kilowatts (kW) tell you how powerful the charger is. More kW usually means faster charging, though the EV may still slow down as the battery gets fuller.
Most EV batteries don’t need to be filled all the way every day. Stopping around 80% is gentler on the battery, and filling from 80% to 100% usually takes much longer than the earlier part.
Concept
fast charging vs slow charging
EV charging speed depends heavily on the charger type and the battery’s current state of charge. Fast charging is quickest for mid-range percentages, while the final top-up slows down to protect the battery, so 80% to 100% takes disproportionately longer.
A wall box is a dedicated home EV charger mounted on the wall, typically installed by an electrician and connected to your home’s electrical board. It provides a faster and more convenient charging option than trickle charging, with power levels commonly in the single- to double-digit kilowatt range.
Zappy is just one example of a company that makes home EV chargers. When choosing one, you mainly care about how fast it charges and whether your electrician can install it safely.
AC32 is a way of charging an EV using regular power (AC) at up to 32 amps. Not every car and charger can do that exact speed, so you can’t assume you’ll get it.
A weekly top up means you charge your EV once a week instead of every day. You do it just enough to cover your normal driving, especially if you don’t have daily charging access.
Concept
charging at home vs public charging
They’re comparing home charging with charging out on the road. Home charging is easier and more predictable, while public charging requires more planning because not all chargers are the same.
Trip planning is about figuring out where you can charge during a drive. You also want to know what kind of charger it is and how fast it charges so you don’t get stuck.
50 kW is a measure of charging power for a public charger. Even though 50 kW sounds “fast,” it can be much slower than higher-power chargers (like 150 kW), which affects how long you’ll need to stop.
Term
Chatham
“Chatham” is the name they’re using for a different charging plug type than CCS. Most EVs use CCS, but some older/legacy models use the other connector.
An adapter is like a plug converter so your car can use a different charger. But adapters can be unsafe or unreliable, so it’s best to use the correct charger type for your car.
Some public EV chargers are “plug-in” style where the cable is built into the charger, while others provide only a connector (no cable). If the charger has no cable, you must bring your own charging cable that matches both the car and the charger. This is a common real-world trip-up for new EV owners.
BYO cable means you have to bring your own charging cable. If the public charger doesn’t include one, you can’t charge without the right cable. So it’s smart to check what cables came with your car.
Bunnings and Harvey Norman are retail stores where the hosts suggest buying EV charging cables. The point is practical: new EV owners may need to purchase a missing cable if their car didn’t include one for public charging. This is a buying/ownership tip rather than a technical concept.
They use Taronga Zoo as an example of a place with EV chargers where you might still need your own cable. So even if a charger is there, you can’t assume it will work without the right cable. Always check the charger details before you arrive.
Chargefox is the company behind the chargers they saw. Even with a known network, the charger might not include a cable. So you may still need to bring your own charging cable.
PlugShare is an app that shows where EV chargers are. People also leave notes about whether chargers actually worked for them, which helps you avoid broken ones.
With EVs, apps are how you find chargers and check if they’re likely to work. They can also tell you where the charger is and what other people experienced.
They’re addressing a common misconception that EV charging always takes hours. On a road trip, fast charging is typically used in shorter sessions, so the car can be ready again while you’re doing normal stops like eating or using the restroom.
For most EV road trips, you don’t usually need to charge all the way to 100%. Stopping around 80% gets you most of the range without the extra time that comes from charging the last part.
Many EVs let you set a target battery percentage before you start charging. The last part of charging is usually slower, so going from 80% to 100% can take much longer than you’d expect.
They’re describing a road-trip planning strategy: don’t just charge randomly—plan your next stop and keep a “buffer” so you can comfortably reach the charger you intend to use. This reduces stress and helps avoid arriving at low state-of-charge when options may be limited.
Charging etiquette just means being considerate at public fast chargers. If you only need enough to get to the next stop, don’t charge all the way to 100% and take up the charger longer than you have to.
Sometimes a charger costs extra if you leave your car plugged in after it’s done charging. It’s meant to encourage you to move your car so someone else can use the spot.
In the transcript, “EV” appears to refer to an EV charging app/network used for starting sessions and managing payments. The hosts emphasize that you should download and then log in to set up payment so charging can be initiated smoothly.
Company
BP
BP is a fuel and energy company that also runs some charging. The hosts are saying you may need their app too, depending on which chargers you use.
NFC (near-field communication) is the short-range wireless tech used for tap-to-charge cards. The hosts describe an RFID/NFC-style “tap and go” card that can start charging by tapping it on the charger, reducing reliance on a phone app.
Company
Australian EV Association
The Australian EV Association is mentioned as an organization that can provide a charging card. The idea is you tap the card on the charger to start charging more easily.
A tap-and-go card lets you start charging by tapping the card on the charger. It’s handy because you don’t have to pull out your phone, but not every charger supports it.
Auto charge means the charger can recognize your car and start charging for you. It’s not guaranteed everywhere, but it can save you from using the app each time.
JetCharge is an app/service that helps you pay to use some public EV chargers. If your charger supports that network, you can use the app to start charging without extra hardware.
Public charging means charging your EV at chargers you don’t own, like at malls or public stations. They suggest doing a quick test charge first so you know how the app and payment work.
They’re talking about how driving an EV feels different from a gas car. One big change is you don’t hear the engine revving, so the car feels quieter and you have to adjust to that.
A V8 is a type of gas engine that usually sounds louder and more dramatic than smaller engines. The host mentions it to explain what they don’t miss after moving to an EV.
One pedal driving means you can mostly drive using just the accelerator. When you lift your foot, the car slows down a lot (using the battery’s energy recovery), so you use the brake much less.
They’re using the Nissan Leaf as an example of a car where one-pedal driving is built in as the normal setting. So when you lift off the accelerator, the car slows down without you needing to press the brake as often.
Regenerative braking is when the EV slows down and also recharges the battery a little. Instead of wasting all that speed as heat like a normal car, it recovers some energy.
One pedal driving is designed so that lifting your foot can slow the car all the way down, sometimes to a full stop. That means you manage your speed mostly with one control instead of switching between gas and brake constantly.
With one pedal driving, you slow down mostly by lifting off the accelerator, so you press the brake less. That can help brakes last longer, but you still use the brake when you need to stop quickly or in emergencies.
The idea here is that going downhill can “charge” the EV a bit because the car slows itself using regeneration. That can mean you spend less battery on the way back if it’s mostly downhill. So your range isn’t just about speed—it’s also about hills.
Hyundai is referenced for having multiple regenerative braking levels that change how strongly the car slows when you lift off the accelerator. The speaker describes a progression of settings (often 1–3) and then a stronger “one pedal” mode. This is important because regen strength directly affects how much energy you recover and how the car feels day-to-day.
iPedal is a brand-specific name (commonly used by Hyundai/Kia) for one-pedal driving behavior. In iPedal mode, lifting off the accelerator commands stronger regenerative braking to slow the car and recover energy. It’s essentially the same idea as “one pedal driving,” just with a particular interface and calibration.
Electric motors can deliver pulling power right away, even from a stop. That’s why EVs can feel like they accelerate immediately when you press the pedal.
“0 to 100” is how fast a car goes from standing still to 100 km/h. It’s a fun performance number, but it doesn’t tell you everything about how efficient or practical the car is day to day.
They’re talking about the BYD Shark, a BYD electric ute/pickup that’s coming out. The hosts use it as an example of how EVs can accelerate very quickly, even for bigger vehicles.
The BYD Shark 6 is an electric car. The podcast mentions it because it can accelerate quickly, and they’re also talking about a newer version with a bigger motor. That’s the main reason it comes up: to explain how fast it can go from a stop.
Your driving habits really change how far an EV can go. If you accelerate hard all the time, you’ll burn more battery; smoother driving usually helps you get more range.
Concept
EVs are opposite of petrol cars (city vs highway efficiency)
The hosts describe a key EV ownership concept: EVs tend to be more efficient in stop-and-go city driving because regenerative braking can recapture energy repeatedly. In contrast, steady high-speed highway driving is less efficient because the car must continuously overcome aerodynamic drag and rolling resistance, drawing more from the battery.
The “range dip” idea is that advertised range numbers assume a test cycle that doesn’t match real highway conditions. As speed increases (e.g., 110 km/h), energy use rises—so the remaining range drops faster than many drivers expect.
Your EV doesn’t always get the same range. Cold (and sometimes very hot) weather makes the battery work harder and can drain it faster, so you may need to plan for less distance than the estimate.
They’re talking about a Hyundai Ioniq and how cold weather can make an EV go less far than you expect. In winter, the battery and systems use more energy, so the “estimated range” drops faster.
In winter, your EV’s range estimate can drop because the battery doesn’t perform as well when it’s cold. The car also uses energy to warm things up, so you go fewer kilometres.
Some EVs warm up the battery before you plug in. That helps the charger work faster and more efficiently, especially when the battery is cold.
Concept
range vs fuel gauge
The hosts contrast older habits—checking a fuel gauge—with the EV habit of monitoring range and battery percentage. Because charging locations and availability matter, knowing your remaining range helps you plan where to stop.
They describe two common EV display modes: battery percentage and estimated kilometres remaining. Percentage is useful for charging planning, while kilometres can be more intuitive for trip distance and deciding when to stop.
EV range can change depending on things like weather and how you drive. Even if the car shows a certain range at full charge, it might be less (or sometimes more) in real life. This matters for planning trips and deciding when to charge.
Servicing schedule just means how often the car needs maintenance. EVs usually need less frequent maintenance than petrol cars, but you still have things like inspections and brake checks. It’s smart to ask the dealer what it costs and how often they expect you to book it in.
Free servicing means the company pays for some maintenance for a while. It can lower your ownership costs, but only if you know exactly what’s included and for how long. Ask the dealer to spell out the details before you commit.
An oil change is something petrol cars need, because they use engine oil. EVs don’t need oil changes, so if a dealer invoices you for one, it may be a mistake or a generic checklist. Always double-check what you’re being charged for.
When you lift off the accelerator or slow down, the EV can “recover” some energy and send it back to the battery. Because of that, you use the brake pads less than in a gas car.
How much air is in your tires changes how they sit on the road. If the pressure is off, the tire can wear faster, so it’s worth checking more often on an EV.
Concept
EVs are much heavier
EV batteries add a lot of weight, so the car is usually heavier than a gas car. More weight can mean tires wear faster, so you should keep an eye on tire pressure.
Your EV has two “battery worlds.” One big battery powers the car, and a smaller 12-volt battery runs the normal electronics. They work differently, so problems can happen in either one.
Sometimes an EV’s software update can cause the small 12-volt battery to drain faster than it should. Manufacturers may patch it later, but it’s still smart to avoid leaving things like lights on.
You can’t treat an EV like a normal car where you jump the battery from another car. The big battery usually isn’t wired to the 12-volt system, so you need a 12-volt jump starter (or the right EV procedure) instead.
Company
C tech battery
C-tek makes battery chargers/jump-start tools. The hosts are mentioning it as a practical home option if your EV’s small 12-volt battery needs help.
With EVs, the software can get better after you buy it. Updates can make the car run more efficiently or fix issues, so it’s not just a one-time setup.
Some EVs can use home internet (often via Wi‑Fi) to download large software updates more reliably than cellular data. The hosts suggest setting up connectivity at home so OTA updates can be run when convenient.
OTA updates are software updates your EV downloads automatically over the internet. They can fix problems and improve how the car works, so it’s usually worth doing even if it’s a little annoying.
Modern EVs display diagnostic warning lights and error messages when systems detect faults or abnormal conditions. The hosts emphasize checking the manual and addressing warnings promptly because they can signal issues that affect drivability or safety.
With an EV, you don’t have to wait until the battery is almost empty. The idea is to plug in whenever you can so you’re never caught with too little charge.
They’re talking about an electricity provider (OVO Energy) that offers cheaper electricity at certain times. If you charge during those cheaper hours, your EV costs less to run.
A trickle charger is a slow charger. It’s meant for plugging in for hours (like overnight) so your car gradually charges without needing fast charging.
Pickles is referenced as the source of used-car research discussed on the show. Used-car auction/remarketing data can be useful for understanding how EV batteries age in real ownership conditions.
Battery life is how long the battery stays healthy enough to keep giving good range. They’re saying the evidence from used cars suggests it may not be as bad as people worry.
“Battery health” means how well your EV battery still works after months and years. The hosts are saying you don’t need to panic about charging normally, and that using the right kind of charger matters more than trying to constantly drain and recharge. They’re also saying your battery range will change over time, but not in a way you need to obsess over.
A slow charger is a lower-power charger, usually used at home. The hosts are saying you can charge this way without worrying that it will ruin your battery. It’s meant to reassure people who charge overnight or whenever they’re parked.
Range anxiety is the stress of wondering if you’ll run out of battery before you can charge. The hosts say it usually gets better after you’ve done a few trips and learned where charging is. Over time, you realize you can plan around it.
A “BP charger” is an EV charging station run by BP. The hosts are showing how you might check an app to see if it’s busy, and then choose another nearby charger if needed. It’s about making charging feel less stressful.
A charging network is the set of chargers and the service ecosystem around them (coverage, reliability, and user experience). The hosts argue that more chargers being added reduces range anxiety and makes EV ownership easier. They compare the idea to gas stations being everywhere, emphasizing convenience and availability.
They suggest talking to other EV owners to get real-world tips. When you’re new, it helps to hear how often other people charge and what to expect. It’s like learning from people who’ve already figured it out.
They’re talking about clearing up common EV rumors. New EV owners often hear scary stuff about range or charging, but myth-busting helps you learn what’s actually true.
You don’t need solar panels to use an EV. You can charge from regular electricity, and the savings come from how much you pay for power and how you charge.
Sometimes when you buy an EV, you get a promotion that includes free fast charging. That can make the car feel much cheaper to run, especially for road trips.
The hosts attribute many EV “conversions” to the first test drive. This is often where people experience the immediate drivability differences (smooth torque delivery and ease of use) that make EVs feel compelling.
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You've just bought an EV, congratulations. Well done. Round of applause for the Two Blokes.
If you already own an EV, a lot of what we're talking about today, you'll already know,
but you never know, there might be a little refresher in there for you. But we talked about
doing these shows, we did one last week about if you're about to buy a car, this is all about
you've just bought an EV. You just pulled the trigger, here's what you need to know.
So let's start with that first moment. You've taken the ribbon off the car,
the salesman's walking you through it and you've got the keys and you're now on the road.
What do you do? I think the first thing to do is get it home and plug it in.
Because that's a mentality thing about just knowing that when it's at home in the driveway,
plug it in. It's a really simple thing to do because when you plug it in also,
a bunch of things happen in the car. The interface, the screens will light up and
tell you that it's charging. So you'll learn very quickly where it tells you about the
charge limit. It'll estimate how fast it's going to take to charge. And that'll allow you to do
a couple of things. Because what you also want to do there, and it may already be factory set
like this, but just check that it's set to the right percentage limit. You don't want to set
your car to charge at 100% every single time. It's possible that your dealer says that's not
an issue and a lot of battery technology today doesn't matter, but it's a good habit to get into
because, not because of battery technology, not because of battery health, but because of time.
The 80%, that last 20% takes a lot longer to do. I think the other mindset you've got to get into
speaking about percentages is that have what you need. Like if you're going on a long road trip,
of course, go to 100% charge at 100%. If you're just going to be driving around town, then having
80% charge or 70% is fine. That's going to get you around and maybe last you for a couple of days
before you even need to consider it. I think it doesn't take long to get used to that charging
process, used to what you need to drive around. We'll talk charging in more detail in a moment,
but in this first 24 hours, what that plugging in will do will teach you all the things you need
to know about where the charging port is, how it plugs in, where to keep the charger in the car,
and all those different things, the basics. Then you want to set your car up so it's able to connect
if possible, if it allows this to your home Wi-Fi. When you pull into the driveway, the garage,
if it's on your home Wi-Fi, any over-the-air software updates that are available will be
available there. If your car doesn't have a SIM card in it, it might also allow you to connect
remotely to the car through apps. That's a really useful thing to do. That's another thing too,
download the app, set up the app, have an account, because you can do things like on my Merc, I've
left my doors unlocked, I can lock the doors through the app, I can open the doors, I can set the
climate, it gives me notifications, things that are happening with the car, you may have that too
with yours, you might be able to, maybe it's a hot day, you might turn the air con on before you
head out or things like that. The last thing I think is really important in that first day
is the range estimate. Now the thing is, don't panic about it. It will change for years. It'll
always change. If you were to charge your car to 100% every day, for example, the driving that you
do actually determines that range number, and every car does it differently. Some cars actually
have a toggle, I've noticed, of a dynamic range versus a fixed range, which is basically a way of
saying, do you want me to use my, this is the car speaking, do you want me to use my brain of what I
was taught to know about the range of this car, or do you want me to use what I know about how
you've driven it for the last month? And that's really critical, because when you get our Kia
EV9, for example, 512K range or something like that, so out of the factory 100%, there it is,
512K. But right now, if I charge it to 100%, so just before we go on a road trip, it might say
600, it might say 590, it might say less, but it does that based on how we've been driving.
So you've been driving in the city a lot. All we do is drive that car around town, so it's going to
go, hey, you're going to make it a long way. Don't panic about the range estimate, but just know it,
know what that is, and that'll help you understand, you know, what's coming up for you. And I think
that's a really nice thing. You're both getting to know each other still. Yeah. So you've had, you've
got your cars in the driveway, you're happy, you're probably going to drive to your friend's place
and show them off. That's cool. Yep. The next thing we think about over time is charging. And this
is really, really important, because I don't think any dealer can truly explain this to anyone
at handover. Yeah, because everyone's different. Everyone's different how they, how they charge,
when they charge. There's a lot to learn. Yeah, there is. I don't think one of the things that a
lot of our callers on this show have said is I didn't realize that, or I didn't know that. Yes,
definitely. I think, well, that's something you should consider, obviously, charging
where you can charge it, when you can charge it. That's probably something you considered before
you bought the car. I know a lot of our listeners can charge at home. 95% of drivers charge at home.
Yes. All the time. Yes. But there's also other, other drivers that maybe have the option to charge
at work and so charge on the way to where they're going. Something we talk about a lot is we call
them a granny charger, the trickle charger. This is the charger that comes with nearly all cars.
That is, it looks like a big chunky power brick on one end, which is what goes into your car.
But at the other end, it's just a normal PowerPoint. It's just a normal Aussie power plug. Now,
using that is totally fine. It's a totally acceptable way to charge your car forever.
You could do that, no problems. It is the slowest way to charge your car. And it will freak you
out the first time you do it at a low number. So if you're at 18% battery and you get home and
you plug it in and you go, I want to charge to 100% or 80%. It's going to take 20, 30,
who knows how many hours because it is the slowest way. It's a two kilowatts, two to three kilowatts,
it's not much, right? It's the slowest possible way to charge. And that's fine because the average
person drives less than 40 kilometers a day. And so if you're doing that, that's a few hours
overnight while you're sleeping, your car is fine. You probably get, you probably put back on the car
what you used the day before. Easily, right? And that's what we think is the best mechanism. So
in that first day you plug in, the reason you do that, so you get in the habit of every day
when you get home, plug it in. That's a really critical thing. And then we talked about why
to set it to 80%. But also, I want to just come back to that for a minute. If you set your car
to charge at 80%, the reason is when you go to a fast charger on a holiday, for example,
when we drive down to my mom's place, I only go to 80% because I know that it might take me 15
minutes to get from 40 to 80. But to get from 40 to 100 could take 35 minutes. And, you know,
dealing with my family going, well, this takes longer. So the additional four, it's like an upside
down pyramid A. So that part is easy to charge to here. Then that bit between 80 and 100 takes a
bit longer to do that. Because it's about safety. It's about keeping the battery safe and doing the
right thing by the charger. So that's the fastest of charging. And then there's the slowest of
charging, the trickle at home. And the in-between is having what we call a wall box. That's a
brand, but it's also just a style. You know, car dealers will sell them to you. There's brands
called Zappy. You can buy them at Bunnings for crying out loud. You need an electrician to
install them. But these ones, there's no PowerPoint involved. It's just the plug that goes into your
car. But it used to be installed by an electrician into your board and all that. But they
range, I think, for speeds of between 7 kilowatts, 11 kilowatts, 22 kilowatts.
My it's capable of 32, but it's not going to get any of that unless the car can handle it.
And I don't think there's any car that does AC32 charging, right? There are a couple that will
do AC22 charging, but very, very few. But that's the in-between. And that's what we've opted for,
because sometimes I do drive a bit of distance in a day or a week. And we also have two electric
cars. So sometimes I don't have the ability to charge mine every day. So it just gets a weekly
top up. And that's the job done. So talking about, this is talking mainly about charging at home.
Yes. What about when you get on the road? Yes. A lot of people think, okay, I'm going on a road
trip. I need to know where the charges are. So this is where there's a bit of planning you might
need to do. You might be driving up to, you know, Trevor drives to Young. He knows exactly where
the charges are on the way. You might be going up the coast. It's handy to know that if you do
need to pull in and use a public charger where it is, what type of charger it is, the speed of
that charger. And this is usually on the road. There's these are normally fast chargers. They
want to get in people in charge fast. But what's really interesting is just looking on any map
and we'll talk about apps in a minute, but talking about on any just pulling up to a charger,
where if it's at a BP and ampola or wherever it might be, they're all different. And there's a
couple of really important things. Speed is one of them. So a big box, what looks like a fast charger
might only do 50 kilowatt charging, which sounds amazing compared to what you've got at home. But
there's others that do 150. And that's that does make a vast difference in how quickly you get
that juice. So you will learn over time which ones are the faster ones. And you can normally see it
within the apps and things, but also be wary of this. And I noticed this with when I go to the
ampola at my local ampola, there's one charger, but there's two plugs. Very cool, right? You think
two cars. Excellent. But the number of times I notice someone pull up in a Tesla and try and
pull the other plug out, which is a different style of plug. There are actually two types of plug.
There's what we call CCS and Chatham. So basically, every car except a Nissan Leaf,
and there might be one other now that still has Chatham uses the standard same charger. So Chatham
is getting very hard to find and they're not installing new ones. But you may come across,
especially in regional and highway areas, you may come across a single charge with two plugs,
and there's someone already plugged in. The other one might not fit your car. So be wary of that
when you're looking at maps and things. How many Type 2 or CCS chargers are there? Because Chatham
will not charge most cars. And are there, can you buy adapters? Aren't there adapters you can
buy? I wouldn't recommend it even if there are. Like it just sounds dangerous to me. It sounds
like the kind of thing that could literally blow up in your face. Well, the other thing too we
should mention in the charging space is that there are some chargers that don't have a cable.
Yes. There are some chargers that are just a plug. And usually the car comes with not only the
granny charger, but also a cable to connect the charger to your car. Yes. So it's got the
two-ended cable. So check that the charger that you're going to has a cable built in.
If not, you'll need to BYO cable. Yeah. If you've got a car that came with a charger,
it's probably a granny charger. If you bought a Mercedes, they might give you both. Yeah,
you do get both. But most likely your car only came with one cable. But I've had cars that only
have the public charger cable, and they don't have the granny cable. So what I did was, in fact,
I think in the Cooper and the Kia, they were the opposite. But what I did was buy the cable so that
in each of my cars, I have two cables. One of them is for public charging. So it's your big
electric vehicle charger plug on both ends, CCS, but it's essentially mail-to-mail so that the
plugs on each end work in the wall. And the other one is for home or normal power points.
It's a normal power plug, granny charger, into your car. Got the same. You've got a bug.
If I'm you and you've just bought a brand new electric car, check what you got and get one of
each. Head to Bunnings or Harvey Norman and find a cable because there are good brands out there.
Sometimes you come up to a public charger, maybe the only one available to you and there's no cable,
you need to have that. A lot of local shopping centers have these chargers. Taronga Zoo, I was
at Taronga Zoo last week, and they've got four charge fox chargers, but no cables. So the second
time I went there, I'm taking a cable. That's a good tip. Make sure you check you got the cable
required. Absolutely, buy cable because it'll make the difference. Now, one thing about public
charging is they're not always working. And that's not because there's a massive failure
of the system. These are complicated pieces of both electronics and computers, especially when
they're in the vast remote area. So be cautious to know how to understand if it's going to be
there and reliable. So what I always say is don't rely on anyone charger on a road trip.
So my trip again to Yang, in my head, I can tell you right now, I pass a charger at Pheasant's Nest
in Amphol, Marulan, a BP, Golban, there's a Tesla, a charge fox, and another charge fox,
and at Yass, there's a NRMA, charge fox, and a Tesla, right? So I know all those charges I drive
past. I aim to go to the Tesla because it's the most number of bays, it's the fastest, and it's
the best in that sense for me. But if I was going, okay, I'm going to go to Yass and go to the NRMA
charge fox. It's one box. If it's broken or faulty for any reason, if I was relying on that,
that could be the end of my road trip. So it's good to know in advance. So one of the things I
recommend, and we'll talk about apps in a minute in detail, but there is an app called Plug Share,
which allows you to just see a map. This is great. You see a map, you can see charges in any area,
and you can zoom in on them. But the critical thing is when you click on that charger,
you can then see other people's experiences. Now, it's not a requirement of owning an EV,
but I would highly encourage you to be part of the community that contributes to Plug Share. So
what you do is you say, I successfully charged today. Yes. So if I see it and it says someone
failed and there hasn't been a successful one after that, I'm cautious. You can check it,
but also to what I love about Plug Share is not only you find the charger with the location,
but also where in that location. Often the Plug Share, the charges might be in a car park or a
shopping center, and it tells you on level four and up here and photos. Otherwise, it's hard to find.
Yeah. So I highly encourage you to use Plug Share and contribute, especially in public charges in
remote areas. Very useful for people to have and do. And if anything's broken, please report it.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. If you do that, it'll probably expedite the repairs.
They might not know it's down. Yeah, that's true. But yeah, and I think the speed of charge,
that's sort of one of the misconceptions of EV charging is that it takes hours and hours. That's
not true. On a road trip, by the time you go to the bathroom, buy a coffee, get a sandwich, eat it,
you'll be ready to go. Yeah. Like you would on an ordinary trip. And again,
that comes back to that really important thing. We'll touch on it again, the 80% real, right?
Yeah. You don't have to charge 100% on your way. And it's a fun thing to do on that screen. The
first time you go to a public, if you're at 20% or 30% battery, and I do recommend you drive,
drive, drive your car until you get to like 20% or something, right? Yeah. And then go to a public
charger. And then on the screen of your car, set it to 80%. And it'll say reaching target in 23
minutes, right? It'll say something like that. And then drag that little target up to 90%. And
it'll say 37 minutes. And then drag it to 100. And it'll say like 47 minutes. And you'll be like,
wow, that's a lot of, that's like double the time. Yeah. And it's a good thing to help you
understand why it's not actually important to get to 100%. You get to what you need. So again,
I'll go back to my road trip. Yeah. I mean, Goldman, I've only got another 150Ks to go. Yeah.
But I also need to charge when I get there and I need to have a bit of bit of buffer zone. So I
want to be at 250Ks. I want to be able to come back as well. So I go to 80 and is that enough?
And it's critical because 80 is probably going to be enough for you.
That's important too to discuss. That's sort of part of the etiquette of charging. So there's
EV charging etiquette where if you want to charge to 100% and you don't need it, you're just wasting
your time at that point and potentially wasting the time of someone else who's waiting to charge.
So I think it's a good idea to take what you need. It's like topping up your fuel. You're not
going to fill her up. You're just going to put 20 bucks in and that's going to get you there.
I've been, I've sat at 80% on a road trip on my own and gone, I'm in no rush. I'm going to take it
to 90 or I'm going to take it to 95. But if someone pulled up and I was at the only charger and I
didn't need the extra, what you do is you go, stop, pull out and go. It's etiquette. It genuinely is
important to respect other drivers. Part of that is that respect is something you've got to learn
as well. But also too, once you've finished charging, don't sit there. There are some
chargers that give, that charge you an idle fee. So I think that that's, that's to
encourage people to get out of there. Once you finish your charging, clear the space up for
someone else. So the final thing on charging, and this is probably, we could have said this
in the first 24 hour thing as well. The first thing you do when you buy an electric car,
but you can do this beforehand as well. Download the apps. Well, on an iPhone or an
Android front, it doesn't matter. All the apps are available. Create a folder called charging
and you download an RMA, charge box, EV, Tesla and plug share, put them all in there, BP.
Those are your core ones. You might hear of others and there are definitely some smaller ones
around, but those ones are going to do your big and charging and you download them all,
but don't just download them, log into them, create an account, put your credit card, set up
a payment card. Yes, very important. And I will say it's a touch on the nerdy side,
but it is very, very easy to do. If you have no knowing about NFC or you join the Australian EV
Association, you can order a card, a single looks like a credit card, a single tap and go card,
and it has a number on it. And on some of these apps, EV and charge box, you can actually
put that number into the app. And so that card, you can just tap on the charger to initiate the
charging process. And that's a game changer. So you don't have to use an app or anything like that.
I'm trying to look for it. I thought I had it. I thought I had it with me.
Oh, you don't have it. And so it doesn't work on every charge of the tap and go, but
it could be an easy way to charge at some points. So EV, for example, has a thing which Tesla has
had forever with Tesla cars, but on some of their charges, probably 50 to 60% of them,
if you set up an auto charge, it will recognize your car and you won't need to even use the app.
You just plug it in. It doesn't work on all cars, but it's a very cool thing to do.
Good idea to sort of pre-register. Pre-register, get ready, get ready to pay.
You turn up at the charge and you think, oh, I've got to put all the info in.
Well, when I turned up, it saves you a bit of time.
At Taronga Zoo, I was with someone else and they were charging their car as well.
And I went, what are you doing? They go, I downloaded an app and I went,
haven't you got a charge box? And they go, this says JetCharge. I went, no, no, that's the company
that built it, but it's actually on the charge box network. So you don't need it.
And so having the app being logged in and setting up the payment authority straight away
means you're going to have a breeze and go and do it. Don't wait till your first road trip to
publicly charge. Just go for a coffee somewhere. Go to Woolies and charge. You know, go somewhere
and learn how the app works. So once you've done it the first time,
I think people are a little bit nervous, but you do it once and then it's no problem.
It's easy after that.
Absolutely. That's what they all say.
Absolutely. Once you get it out of the way for your first time.
Charging is very easy. Don't let it struggle you or stress you out at all. Now,
the third thing we want to talk about is the difference in driving.
The drive. Yeah.
And mate, I've said a million times I didn't buy an electric car to be green.
I'm excited that I'm doing my bit for the world, but I'm doing it because they're great to drive.
I love the sound. I love the fact that it's a quiet drive. I don't miss
the revving of an engine. I didn't have a V8.
That's one thing when I got my first EV many years ago. That was one thing that took a little bit
of time for me to get used to was how quiet the car is. Yeah.
And because there weren't many other EVs on the road, you've got to be very careful about
other people. Yes.
Because I'd be driving in shopping centre car parks. There'd be people walking in front of my car.
Yeah, we had that yesterday, big garage. We can't hear us. I'm about to go and gravel.
Tooting your horns a little bit aggressive. So you just got to be really mindful that
people might not be able to hear you. Absolutely. Yeah.
Now, there's a thing called one pedal driving. And I want to be clear, this is not in every car.
It's something you could ask at the dealership or while you test drive.
For some cars, it's the default. So Nissan Leaf, for example, it's like the default.
And it's a gear shift. For other cars, it's a button.
For some cars, it's a part of the regenerative braking settings.
And we'll talk about that in a minute. But basically, it needs to be turned on.
The idea of one pedal driving, the best example I can give is scalar tricks.
If you ever drive a scalar tricks, you know, the cars on the racetrack,
you squeeze your trigger and the cars go, as soon as you take your finger off, the car stops.
It goes slow down. Yeah.
Right? It doesn't slow down. It stops. As soon as you take your finger off the trigger,
the car stops. If you do that in a one pedal driving car, if you're going,
like if your foot's at 30% acceleration and then you take your foot off,
your car will very promptly come to a stop. It'll slow down. Yeah, that's right.
It's not like slamming on the brakes, but it will very promptly stop.
You'll notice. The idea of the one pedal is to take you to a complete stop,
so that you're only using the accelerator to drive the car. You'll obviously use the brake in
emergencies and when you feel like you need to stop even more promptly. But it's actually
a brilliant thing because, and we'll talk about this, but you're using the brakes less.
So it's saving you money in the long term. Yes. But one pedal driving is sensational.
But the idea for the recuperation, what brings the car, what slows the car down,
is the motor's going into reverse. So I don't think it's only going to reverse. It's the
technology of the entire car pushing the power that it's able to regenerate.
The regeneration, sort of the reversing of the motor, recovering the energy.
It's the reversing of the energy flow. The difference. So it's basically putting that
energy back in your battery. That's it. And if you do it enough, if you're on like a downhill run,
you may see the percentage of your car increase by one or two percent. Well, I think the bigger
example is when you drive somewhere, so let's say Sydney people, you drive from Sydney to Bathurst,
you may drive there and go, I use 60% of my battery to get here. On the way back,
you'll probably only use 30% because it's downhill. So that's, it could be a huge difference. But one
of the things about regenerative braking, a lot of cars use the pedals, which used to be used for
shifting up and down gears. My Mercedes does that. Hyundai KIAs do as well. So it's like you're
shifting up is like going down on regenerative, shifting down is adding regenerative choice.
Normal, strong, iLaw is too strong. A lot of cars have three modes. So in a Hyundai and a KIA,
it's like one, two, and three levels. And the fourth level is one pedal driving. So one, two,
and three just basically means how much will the car regenerate, which means how much will the car
brake when you take your foot off the pedal. Short trips you hardly touch the brake. And so
the reason it's a really important setting to know about is because it was a real off-putting
thing for my wife the first time she drove the KIA. It's like, what is it? Why is it doing that? So
I would put my wife's setting on one so that it just felt like a normal car, just drive it like a
normal car. And then over time, if that's, if that's frustrating to you to have the regenerative
feeling, because it is a feeling. It takes, it takes getting used to it. It's not something
you think, oh, this is right. You literally have to move your foot, your pedal, very, very differently.
But the key is if you can bring yourself to go into full regenerative mode or iPedal or one pedal
driving if it's available, you're doing the best for the battery. You're doing your best for your
efficiency and you're doing the best thing for your brakes. Absolutely. But it will, it is a
feeling. And please remember your passengers. I've been in Ubers that are EVs where the driver
has definitely got a regen on. And dude, I'm like, mate, what are you doing here? I'm,
because I'm not driving, I'm feeling every bit of it. So,
Trev doesn't like not driving. You're the worst passenger. I'm not a fan of being a passenger.
I think too, another thing, another attractive thing for people before they buy the car and
even when they're test drivers, the acceleration. EVs have instant torque. So off the mark, they're
pretty solid. Some cars, depending on the sort of car you buy and how much you pay,
that instant acceleration could be as two seconds, zero to 100. This is crazy. But others,
in general, on average, about four to seven seconds is zero to a zero to 100. Like the new
BYD Shark with a bigger motor that's coming out this year has a 5.5 second 0 to 100 for a big
Ute. Are we kidding? That's crazy. You know what? That's, that's plenty. Yes. I know there's a lot
of people who think they spend more to get a much faster off the mark. The point here is,
we're talking about driving differently. Yeah. Be careful. Yeah. Because you might get some
red and blue lights coming behind you with your heavy right foot. But that also leads us to the
fact that you can actually be quite efficient in your driving. Yeah. It can be a very smooth way
to drive. You can, you can really, with that pedal, you can control so much more of the car
than you normally would with gearbox and brakes and acceleration. So be, be thinking about that
as well. And we've said, mentioned many times on the show about the driving, the driving conditions
and how that affects your range. Yeah. We've said many times that batteries, EVs are the opposite
of a petrol car. Yes. A petrol car on the highway, that's its most efficient way mode of driving.
Whereas an EV loves the stop and start of city driving, that's its most efficient. Highway
driving is less efficient because it's constant high speed and that, that draws on the battery
slightly more. Yeah, exactly. So just, just remember that when you hit the open road,
the range is going to dip. You may think you've got 500 kilometres range, but at 110 kilometres
an hour, that car is going to go 400 kilometres. It's just not going to go as far. Make an even
little differences. Like sitting in the left lane at 100, that could add, that could add a lot of
Well, for some conservative drivers, but it can make a difference. If you, if you're wondering
why the Tesla is going 90 on the freeway, it's because it's more efficient to drive. And they've
realised that, you know what, that 10 kilometres an hour is not getting me there any much faster.
It's really not. It's like, you're getting there five minutes earlier. What are you doing? It's
crazy. You'll, you'll have a bit, a bit of range, a bit more percentage left on the battery when
you arrive there. So now another big one here, this is something you may not have been told at
the dealership or learnt in any reviews is the weather can affect your range. Yes. Exhibit A.
I took a Hyundai Ioniq to Bathurst in many years ago, 2018, 2017, something like that. And we
didn't make it. It was very cold that day. It was snowing outside of Bathurst and the car didn't
make it to Bathurst. Even though the range was 196 kilometres and the drive was only 190,
we fell 25 kilometres short because it was cold. A uphill, B freezing cold. It's like George
Costant. There's a bit of shrinkage. There's a bit of shrinkage in the battery range. So you can,
and a lot of cars will inherently do this. You get in a car on a cold morning in winter,
it will show you a lower range than on a summer's day. Yeah. So your car will, your car will tell
you this, but the heat isn't really that big a determinant, but a stupidly hot day can also
affect range because the battery needs to moderate itself for safety as well. Is it also charging?
I know, I know the Tesla's and other cars do, they preheat the battery to speed up the charging
a little bit too. So that's another factor. Charging can be affected by the temperature
as well. But that goes to our last point about how the drive is different. And again, you never
used to look at range. You only ever used to look at a fuel gauge. And you can still do that.
Just look at the, just look at the battery gauge. That's okay. But you'll want range because you're
worried about where you're going to charge. I know on the Tesla, you could choose to have
either a percentage reading or a kilometer reading. So some, my car has both. I want both.
Yeah. If I only, if I had the choice of one, I would put kilometers. Yeah, case just saying,
no, it's only good to go 100%. But just remember, as we said earlier, that, that number will vary
based on your weekly driving, based on the weather and based on how you've been driving even that
day. So just keep those things in mind when you are experiencing the difference of driving
and EV. Another great thing about the EV is just how much different it is to look after.
In some ways, vastly different in other ways, not much at all. You should ask the question
about the servicing schedule of the car. Yeah, before you buy your car, that's a good question
to ask. Yeah, what some brands may include free servicing. They may. Some brands may not.
It's unlikely. But yeah, you may, you may have, I think it's a good question to ask. What's the
servicing like? Roughly even ask what the cost of the servicing is going to be. Yeah, like in my,
in both my cars, I chose to just prepay for five years with the servicing. It's like,
it's better to just have it locked in and done. But you'll find it's different. You're not,
you're not having to get a service every 10,000 kilometers. It's more likely to be an annual
thing than it is a kilometers thing. If that, if that, my Tesla, very rare for anything other
than Tesla. I booked it in for my first 12 months, just out of habit. And they said, well, how many
cars in the car? And I told them, they said, no, yeah, okay, we're cancelling your service,
which is rare, very rare company. We've only ever heard that from Tesla. So just be clear.
And don't, Stephen will tell you, he'll get very angry about it. But don't get too angry at them
when they stuff it up because they send you an invoice that has oil change on it. The systems
that some of these dealerships are so old that they're just inherently ticking a list. They've got
to get with the times. They're going to have a list, a checklist for a normal car and a checklist
for an EV. You won't get this with an A on or a Gilly because they don't have established service
principles anywhere else. This is a subject for another day. But Mercedes Benz, I thought the
servicing of an electric car was a touch on the high side way above what I expected. Yeah.
And look, and that's the problem is if you don't ask the question up front, you don't know that
actually it's not better off. Like that, that's a decision making thing. And we should have covered
it last week if we didn't. But you know what, if it's no cheaper to service, then you're not
getting the true benefits of the EV other than the petrol side. So think about that. We talked
about how regeneration and one pedal is a great thing for your brakes. Yeah. And you're using
them less. My experience has been they've gone, oh, they're looking great. The brakes are fantastic.
They're a lot friendlier on the brakes. So even if you're going in for a service, you know, let's
say it's a $400 service, we all know that it's a $400 service and then they'll charge you for the
brakes and the, the, the, the, the, the, the good thing is the $400 service on an EV might be the
same as a petrol car, but you're going to be getting your brakes refreshed much fewer times.
And that's a positive. But we have both noticed tires can be an issue. Yeah, that's right. And
what we learned to be heavier, what leave we learned is inflation. We were told just go a
couple of PSI up because it over inflate it over inflate. Otherwise your car sits and kind of hits
the, the very sidewall of the, or the very curved edge of the tire and can wear it much quicker.
So you better off to over inflate. And for the same reason I check my tires far more than I ever
did before, because even though your car's not saying, hasn't got an alarm going off saying
tire pressure issue, you're, that's because you're in the normal range, but you actually want to be
just above the normal range is what we've learned in our experience. That's, that's the best advice.
But yeah, just, just know an EV is much heavier car than what you drove before because the battery
is along the bottom of the car. So yeah, check back, check pressures often. Yep. Don't forget
your electric vehicle has two batteries, the big booming thing that powers the car. And then there
is still, and this is still mind blowing to me, there is still a 12 volt battery under the hood
or in the boot. It's wild to me that that still exists, but it does. They are very different
systems, the high voltage system and the 12 volt system, very different systems. There have been
known issues with some cars, Mike here included, where the 12 volt drains through software updates,
they fixed that or they're fixing that. But just know that leaving your lights on can still drain
the battery, not the big battery. What about my big battery? Just the little one, right? And the big
battery is nowhere connected to the little one. So even when that little battery is dead, you can't
jumpstart it with the big one. You're not going anywhere. So I actually am testing one of those
C tech battery, you know, jump starters, because it's a great thing still to have in your home.
Absolutely. Without question, the 12 volt can still be a problem. I get warnings on my car,
as you do. So I've checked the 12 volt battery and it's not, it's never, it just,
just got to drive the car again. Yeah. So I get that because of the dash cam.
I get that because the dash cam is using it in the car. I would too, because I've got parking
there. And the car's going, mate, that's the 12 volts being used while I'm not driving. And so
again, just one drive and you're sort of getting my warning to just know the 12 volt is there.
And you know what? This is another, like, I remember when I first got my first electric car,
I'm thinking, oh, it's just another thing I've got to remember to charge. But it's also another
thing you've got to remember to update. You get software updates as well. And I remember the
famous story when I got my Tesla, the guy said to me, today is the worst your car is going to be.
It's going to improve over time with software updates. And, and he was right. Yeah. So just
to remember, we spoke earlier about maybe having Wi-Fi connected into your driveway, connect that
because there might be an OTA and over the air update that you can run on the car. But run the
updates. I know people get annoyed. They get annoyed. They got to update their iPhone or their,
their Android phone. But you got to do it because you know what? It helps with the efficiency,
security, save deal for your car. These updates are for the best. And the last thing about just
looking after the car, you're still going to get warning lights and errors. Pay attention to them.
Don't ignore them. You still get tire pressure warnings. Look up the manual. Find out what it
is because it might be worth going back to the dealer on. It's really that simple. Yeah. A lot
of cars have more information now and that's fine. But don't ignore warnings because they could be a
big difference for you. Just finally, Stephen, and I think this is a really important one.
The mindset shift. It's a complete change. It really is because the biggest one is
you go from, oh, when the tank gets to a flashing lighter at a quarter, I'm going to go to the
station and fill it up. You don't need to do that. You do not need to take your car down to
whatever your number is, a 30%, 20%, whatever it is. Just charge it whenever you can. I know
there's a lot of people, my mother included, when they see the little red, the warning light to come
on to fill up. They go, oh, I need to fill the car up. That is not necessarily the case here.
You run the risk of if you need to sort of go out quickly in your car, you've only got 10%
charge, you're going to get caught out. So it's a good idea to top up the battery whenever you can.
Just like your phone. It's what we always say. Just keep charging it whenever you can. We should
mention too that you are charging at home. There are a lot of electricity plans and offers. I've
got OVO energy, which offers free electricity between 11 a.m. and 2 p.m. and overnight charging
between midnight and 6 a.m. It's like eight cents per kilowatt, which basically means you can have
a fully charged car for like eight bucks. It's really cheap. So that's enough. Once you've
settled in your car, start talking energy with the energy providers. We can have a whole other
show about solar and the benefits of having solar panels. It's not a necessity though. We hear a lot
of people saying they call us and say, I've got solar panels, so a lot of people equate that well.
Do I need to have solar panels to drive an EV? No, you don't. But it helps. But it's not a necessity.
No. But if that's something you want to do to maybe to make yourself more power efficient
and spend less on electricity, then go for it. We mentioned this in the start. You don't need
anything but the trickle charger that was provided with the car or that you can buy at Bunnings.
You can absolutely get by with that for life, especially if you don't do any of the road
trips. It's totally fine to charge a car using that. It's also totally fine to charge your car
regularly on a high speed charger, but stick to the 80% in that case. We've had great research
from Brent and Green at Pickles who has appeared on this show many times showing us that a lot of
the data coming from the used cars they're seeing is actually showing that battery life is not,
battery health is not actually degrading. If you charge fast charge every week, there's no battery,
there's no evidence of battery degradation. But the most important thing is if you're charging
your car on a slow charger all the time, you are absolutely not degrading your battery. It's totally
cool. Keep topping it up. Don't worry about letting it go down and up again. Range anxiety will drive
you insane for many months. It will. You'll think about it. You worry about it, but it will fade.
It will fade over time, especially after you've done your first couple of cool trips. You'll
realize very quickly, ah, there's cars that that one, like you drive past it. So on my trip at
Merulon, there's one BP charger. You don't drive past, there's someone there where you get one of
the kids in the back to check the app and it'll show you whether it's in use or not. It's in use.
I'm just going to drive onto the next one. There's another charger 50 kilometers away.
They nearly always is. So yeah, it's like, you know what, how much range anxiety do you have
when you drive a petrol car? Never. Because there's more stations everywhere. But the good news is
that there are more charges. When I got my first EV eight years ago, charges were, they weren't as
frequently found as they are today. So today you're buying an EV today. There are plenty of
charges. I think the just a few weeks ago, the New South Wales government also announced a bit
and they're going to put more charges in more places to give people that option and drive the
push to EVs. No matter what you think of Elon, don't be afraid to use these charges because
they are it is the best charging network. That's like saying I'm never going to use BP and Shell.
They've got they've got petrol stations everywhere and they've got more boursers than anyone else.
The Tesla Supercharger Network is the best thing about the Tesla brand going and don't be afraid
to use it. And while you're there, it's not something I do, but it's something Stephen does,
be part of the community. Talk to other owners. Yeah, I did that a lot when I've had my Tesla
and I was connected and we were just chatting away to other drivers and they sort of gave me
some advice and tips on how often they charge. You know, we were at Sutton's Forest at an EV
charger once and we pulled in charge and then I noticed the person next was having a problem.
It's like, you know what? Oh, no, this is the first time probably. Just have a chat to them,
find out and help out, help out where you can, learn where you can. It's a really nice thing.
There's a bunch of, we always say this, join the Facebook groups for your car. It's a great
way to learn more about your car. You'll hear a lot of wingers as well, but that's fine. It's good
to know everything that's going on. Yeah. And if you want to have a chat about an electric car,
that's what we're here for. Talk to us. Yeah. We've had plenty of great calls where we learned
stuff and what's the text line number, Stephen? 047657657. I've never heard you say it,
actually. I was just thinking out loud. There you go. That was a test, but I'll pass the test.
047657657 send us a text. I've heard it enough, mate. And you know, the other one is, and this
will happen at Christmas time, Mother's Day, Easter, barbecues, whatever it is, you are going
to get quizzed. So you might want to, you might want to listen back to our myth busting. You might
want to do reading, whatever, but just remember, you are going to get narks. They're going to,
they're going to, they're going to, you're also going to get the opposite, which is just questions.
It's fascination. Yeah. I have that. Fascination. There'd be people like, I remember plugging the
Tesla in years ago and people say, well, how, and the questions were all the same. How long
does it take to charge? How far can you go? And how much is it? Yeah. That were the questions.
100%. Yeah. And so once you've, once you've experienced it for a little while, you will
have those answers and you will, I can't imagine you won't become an advocate because
they're just great to drive. And most of the myths are absolute rubbish. But you know what,
after a while, it won't feel like an EV. It'll just feel like your car. That's right. It's your car.
And that's the moment when you realize that you've converted yourself. That's it. You're just,
you're just happy to be in your car and you love driving your car and you won't notice other than
the fact that your friends are whinging about petrol prices and you're not. And look, just
finally, I think for me, you know, we bought the Cooper first, didn't we? Yeah. Cooper was the first
EV. Like I knew as soon as I drove it, I wanted it and I'd driven plenty of cars before that.
But it was weirdly the moment for me, and we talked about solar panels not being required, but
given I was lucky enough to have solar panels or put them on, I only put them on two years ago,
that was the moment I was converted forever. When I went, wait a minute, it's December,
it's sunny, plug in, cars charging and I'm getting free driving. This is, that was the moment that
tipped me over the edge. I'll be honest with you. I had panels before I got my car too. I had it
been before. And what was the moment that made you go, I'm never going back to a petrol car?
I just think, yeah, we'll see in the fuel prices that that was one. But I just think in the air,
I can, I can charge it at home. I've got plenty of power coming through the panels and plenty
of charges around. I had, at the time I had the deal with the, they used to have a code and
my car had free supercharging. So hello, I was charging. It wasn't a problem to do a fast super
charge and it cost me nothing. It's part of the deal of my car. So that was, I'm thinking, well,
why would I drive a petrol car ever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let us know as an EV owner, what was the
moment that you knew you'd never go back? And I think for some people, that moment was when they
test drove one. The first time you drove an EV, for a lot of people, the moment they tipped over
the edge. And despite the fact that, and why we had a text the other day from someone that said
something lovely about EVs and then said, but I'm still going to keep the V8. And I wrote back,
I said, if I had a V8, I'd keep it too, like just in the garage. I'd love to own a V8 that I could
bring out every month or so. Fine. But I never owned a car that made the great sounds or anything
like that. So I was happy to move on from that. It's a fascinating world to be in. You now own
an electric car. You'll love it, but just take it easy, take it simple, take it slow, do the basics,
download the apps, and you'll have a great time. You'll never look back. You'll never look back.
And if you want to talk to us, we'd love to hear from you. 0-4-7-6-5-7-6-5-7. Send us a text. And if
you know someone who's just bought an EV, send them a link to this show. We'd love to talk to them
as well. Steven, let's do it all again next week. We'll take your calls next week, folks.
About this episode
New EV owners get a practical, no-nonsense roadmap: plug in immediately after pickup, set a sensible charge limit (often 80% for daily use), connect to home Wi‑Fi for over‑the‑air updates, and learn how range estimates shift with driving style. The hosts break down charging options (trickle, wall box, fast charging), public charger pitfalls like CCS vs CHAdeMO and missing cables, and why you should plan with apps like PlugShare. They also cover one‑pedal driving, regen, EV efficiency changes, weather effects on range, servicing/tires, the 12‑volt battery, and the mindset shift away from “fill when low.”
This week, an episode for people NEW to the EV world.
Did you just pickup your new Electric Car?
Want to know how to charge? What apps to download? How it drives differently?
Stephen and Trevor break it down with their knowledge and experience thanks to NRMA Insurance and Uniden Dashcams