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#141 - Fuel Refinery Fire & Have we passed the golden age of 4WDing?

#141 - Fuel Refinery Fire & Have we passed the golden age of 4WDing?

The 4WD Podcast Apr 16, 2026 68 min
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About this episode

Fuel prices and supply anxiety take center stage after a major fire at Viva Energy’s Geelong refinery, with hosts debating how much it could affect petrol vs diesel and calling out perceived profiteering. The conversation then shifts to the growing 4WD lineup and whether the “golden age” of affordable Land Cruisers is gone, plus how too many choices can overwhelm buyers. Ronnie’s Tough Dog tip argues for enjoying what you already have instead of chasing mods. The show also covers new Chinese SUV competition, a wild Shark Bay Troopy bogging story, and community “wave” etiquette.

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4WDing

"Episode: #141 - Fuel Refinery Fire & Have we passed the golden age of 4WDing? Published: 2026-04-16T18:00:00Z"

It means driving a four-wheel-drive vehicle off-road. People do it on dirt, mud, sand, and rocky tracks.

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This part is just advertisements for other podcasts. It’s not the main conversation of the episode.

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Backchats Studio

"[94.9s] All right, in the full drive podcast, now my time, now we are back recording in the [98.7s] Backchats Studio. It's built by Granted, who we got to drive around in the beautiful highlights."

They’re saying they’re back in their studio to record the show. It’s just where the episode is being made.

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power

"[110.7s] bad because I sort of ragged the power in it a bit early. You did. But I said it looked [115.0s] mint and it drove really nice when I gave it a bit of a boot on the second drive. Did [120.5s] you tell him about the power? Yeah, I told him early. I was a little bit worried that [124.3s] it was a bit laggy, but then it came good."

They’re talking about how strong the vehicle feels when it speeds up. At first it seemed a bit slow, but later it felt better.

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laggy

"[120.5s] you tell him about the power? Yeah, I told him early. I was a little bit worried that [124.3s] it was a bit laggy, but then it came good. But anyway, we can cover that in a little [129.2s] bit. Music by Southern Ruben. Let it ride. Seeing it's in socials4drivepodcast.com.au."

They mean the vehicle didn’t respond right away when they pressed the pedal. It felt a bit slow at first, then got better.

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Tough Dog

""Get around our sponsors, Tile Power, Tough Dog. Looking forward to a Tough Dog tip of the week from a quality person, a quality friend. Quality bloke. Quality bloke in. Ah, darling, if he has one for us.""

Tough Dog is a brand that makes off-road parts for 4WDs and trucks. People use their gear to improve ride quality and help vehicles handle rough tracks.

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Fuel refinery fire

"Can we? Just quickly, what do you think? Give me your top three guesses on what you think this breaking news is. Breaking news. And it's the four-wheel drive world is connected. Well, I've been trying. I've been eavesdropping on you both."

They’re talking about a fire at a place that makes fuel for cars. The discussion is about what happened, where it happened, and whether it could affect drivers.

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Viva Energy

"This is this morning. Broke out at the Viva Energy Oil Refinery in Geelong last night. So 11 p.m. over in Victorian time, the fire started and yeah, still going."

This is the company that runs the refinery where the fire happened. They’re the ones responsible for that site.

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oil fire

"An oil fire. Yep. Oh, for fuck's sake. So it started in like the in the motor gasoline section, a big leak of liquid hydrocarbons and gases and then all just exploded from there. It's called equipment and pop value."

This is a fire caused by oil or fuel. It’s harder to put out than a normal fire because the burning liquid can spread.

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motor gasoline

"So basically an unprecedented in air quotes fire. This is this morning. Broke out at the Viva Energy Oil Refinery in Geelong last night. So 11 p.m. over in Victorian time, the fire started and yeah, still going."

This is the fuel that most regular cars run on. They’re saying the fire started in the part of the refinery that handles that fuel.

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liquid hydrocarbons

"So it started in like the in the motor gasoline section, a big leak of liquid hydrocarbons and gases and then all just exploded from there. It's called equipment and pop value."

These are oil-based liquids that can be turned into fuel. They burn easily, so they’re a big deal in a refinery fire.

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contained

"Well, they did. They've said that it's been contained to a 30 by 30 area meter area, which is pretty massive. And they're expecting it to take another four to five hours to fully bring under control."

When a fire is contained, it means firefighters have stopped it from spreading. It may still be burning, but it’s under control.

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diesel

""It's not impacted the diesel or jet fuel areas directly, but there was a there's been a ramping down of other production units in the area for safety reasons." "If you're driving a petrol engine, now you know what it feels like driving a diesel.""

Diesel is another kind of fuel, usually used by trucks, some SUVs, and work vehicles. The hosts are talking about how its supply was less affected than petrol.

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jet fuel

""It's not impacted the diesel or jet fuel areas directly, but there was a there's been a ramping down of other production units in the area for safety reasons." "petrol production is the most impacted one out of this fire diesel and jet fuel still continuing on""

Jet fuel is the special fuel airplanes use. The refinery fire could have affected it, but the hosts say it wasn’t hit directly.

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oil refinery

""the timing of it is unreal for us to lose a part of a refinery like that." "one of the two oil refineries that we've got in Australia""

An oil refinery is a factory that turns crude oil into the fuels cars and planes use. If it has problems, fuel can become harder to get and more expensive.

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petrol

""So that 50% of Victorians fuel comes from this refinery and 10% of Australia's total fuel comes from this refinery. So with that, you said petrol. Petrol. Yeah, half of Victoria get their petrol from the Geelong oil refinery.""

Petrol is what many people in the U.S. call gas. It’s the fuel most regular cars use.

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equipment failure

""I don't want to speculate at all. But what timing for equipment failure? Well, one of the two oil refineries that we've got in Australia...""

This means some machine broke or malfunctioned. In this conversation, they’re wondering if that might have caused the fire.

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Fuel Watch

""So you can look it up on fuel watch. You can see the prices. If you go to Kananara, there is an independent guy who brings in fuel gets it from Singapore...""

It’s a website or service that shows fuel prices in different places. People use it to find the cheapest petrol or diesel nearby.

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fuel excise

"[542.1s] problem as a way to raise the price. Yeah. Yeah, we spoke about it, Jaden, [549.1s] where we thought that the because of the the tax was being cut by half that are the [555.8s] excise. Yeah, that we were going to see some. Yes, I still haven't seen anything. I haven't"

This is a tax on fuel. If the tax goes down, gas stations are supposed to be able to charge less.

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BP

"[628.6s] cheaper because they're making so much money. So you might look at Burke and think, geez, [634.2s] they're like must just be hanging in there because their prices are so much lower than [637.8s] BP, Caltex, all the other ones. But the thing is, sometimes the owner parks at the Wangara [643.5s] one. There's a friggin Lamborghini. He's not doing, he's not doing bad for himself."

BP is a big gas station brand. They’re comparing its prices to cheaper stations.

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Caltex

"[628.6s] cheaper because they're making so much money. So you might look at Burke and think, geez, [634.2s] they're like must just be hanging in there because their prices are so much lower than [637.8s] BP, Caltex, all the other ones. But the thing is, sometimes the owner parks at the Wangara [643.5s] one. There's a friggin Lamborghini. He's not doing, he's not doing bad for himself."

Caltex is another gas station brand. They’re using it as a comparison for fuel prices.

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servo

"[637.8s] BP, Caltex, all the other ones. But the thing is, sometimes the owner parks at the Wangara [643.5s] one. There's a friggin Lamborghini. He's not doing, he's not doing bad for himself. [649.0s] No. And, and if he's, if he's at that caliber level of earning money, why would you, [655.4s] why would you dilly-dally in a servo if it's not going to make you money? Right? So"

A servo is just an Australian word for a gas station. They’re talking about the person who owns one.

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Lamborghini

"[637.8s] BP, Caltex, all the other ones. But the thing is, sometimes the owner parks at the Wangara [643.5s] one. There's a friggin Lamborghini. He's not doing, he's not doing bad for himself. [649.0s] No. And, and if he's, if he's at that caliber level of earning money, why would you, [655.4s] why would you dilly-dally in a servo if it's not going to make you money? Right? So"

Lamborghini is a fancy sports car brand. They’re saying the station owner must be doing well if he drives one.

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panic buy

"It's, it's pretty important to only get what you need and not panic by and get more than, more than what you actually need. Yeah. Although the server will want you to panic by because then, then the supply goes down, they put the price up and, and the news would love you to do that too because they love, they love a good bad news story."

It means people buy extra fuel because they’re worried it’ll disappear. That can actually make the shortage worse for everyone.

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4WD owners and fuel supply

"It's kind of like, it's almost a blessing that it's the petrol side of the station that's gone up in flames and not the diesel side. Well, for us three. Yeah, for us three and full drive owners and, but I mean, it's, it's obviously not good at all."

They’re talking about how this fuel problem affects people who drive 4WDs. Diesel drivers may be especially concerned.

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maintenance

"And I wonder who's doing the maintenance on that. Like you feel for them a little bit because they are probably without a job this morning. Yeah, I wonder if it was a mistake"

This means regular care and repairs. They’re wondering if the refinery equipment was looked after properly before it failed.

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1950s facility

"[809.1s] we're just blaming on old age of the refinery. [812.5s] This is a 1950s facility. So yeah, I mean 1950s. It's well worth it. [1785.8s] but you're saving eight cents, it's a much bigger ratio, you know?"

They’re talking about an old refinery that was built in the 1950s. Older facilities often need more repairs and upgrades, which is why they’re saying it may be in trouble.

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GWM Haval

"[830.0s] radar. Jayden or is that a master on the radar? I think that's good for on the radar. The other thing [835.8s] was the GWM Haval. GWM Haval. So it's a new GWM are just releasing a new SUV in China that's meant [845.9s] to compete with the 300 series and the Y63 apparently. Not much. Not every week there's"

This is a new SUV from a Chinese car company called GWM. They’re saying it’s being built to compete with big popular SUVs.

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MG

"[856.6s] from China. They're just they're just really trying to compete with those Japanese vehicles. [862.4s] MG, are they Chinese? No, no, no. MG? No, that's MG's part of British. I'm pretty sure they're [872.2s] they're British. Well, I hadn't seen the because you know how the MG except they are now owned by"

MG is a car brand that started in Britain. The hosts are talking about how it’s now owned by a Chinese company.

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SAIC

"[862.4s] MG, are they Chinese? No, no, no. MG? No, that's MG's part of British. I'm pretty sure they're [872.2s] they're British. Well, I hadn't seen the because you know how the MG except they are now owned by [877.4s] SAIC the Chinese Motor Company. I don't know how to put it forward, isn't it now? Yeah."

SAIC is a big Chinese car company. They own MG now, which is why the brand is discussed as British in origin but Chinese-owned today.

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MG Ute

"[877.4s] SAIC the Chinese Motor Company. I don't know how to put it forward, isn't it now? Yeah. [882.6s] All right. I think well, I saw the MG Ute yesterday out the front of the [886.9s] car dealership. I hadn't seen one yet. MG Ute. Yeah. Yeah, okay. [893.9s] It's kind of like half. I haven't seen the MG Ute. What do you think? Oh, I mean, they"

This is a pickup truck from MG. They’re talking about how it looks and whether it seems like a real work truck or more of a stylish everyday vehicle.

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BYD

"[900.2s] look comfortable. Yeah, it doesn't look like a workhorse in any. Yeah, you don't see too many [906.0s] MG's around. No, no. Like it looks like those modern more like more towards the BYD sort of [914.7s] BYDs are to be honest, they look like a fair bit of a tank if I'm lucky. I don't mind the [919.0s] look of those, but the shark. Yeah, I don't mind the look of the shark. It's huge. It's a pigeon"

BYD is a Chinese car company. They’re using it as a comparison for how the MG Ute and similar vehicles look.

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Byd Shark 6

"[906.0s] MG's around. No, no. Like it looks like those modern more like more towards the BYD sort of [914.7s] BYDs are to be honest, they look like a fair bit of a tank if I'm lucky. I don't mind the [919.0s] look of those, but the shark. Yeah, I don't mind the look of the shark. It's huge. It's a pigeon [925.0s] in wolf clothing. That's what it is. But it's sort of more probably towards that, you know,"

This is a pickup from BYD. They’re saying it looks big and tough, but maybe not as rugged as it first appears.

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pigeon in wolf clothing

"[914.7s] BYDs are to be honest, they look like a fair bit of a tank if I'm lucky. I don't mind the [919.0s] look of those, but the shark. Yeah, I don't mind the look of the shark. It's huge. It's a pigeon [925.0s] in wolf clothing. That's what it is. But it's sort of more probably towards that, you know, [933.0s] the future. The newer side of the new look. Yeah. The future city get around. Yeah. Yeah."

They’re joking that the truck looks tough, but might not really be as tough as it seems. It’s a way of saying the styling is a bit misleading.

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Toyota Hilux

"It is. It's heading that way though, isn't it? Even the Hilux, the one that we drove around, had a similar look. Yeah, 90. Yeah. Now, just quickly on that, because we drove the grounded one around last week. Yeah. And the Hilux is a Hilux. It was comfy. It drove pretty well. But the interior is like the Prado."

The Toyota Hilux is a tough pickup truck that’s popular for work and off-road driving. They’re talking about a newer version and how adding accessories can make it look better.

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honeycomb grill

"The front of the N90 Hilux is, I wasn't a big fan of, they've got that new like, almost like a honeycomb grill. Yeah, not the biggest fan either. But once you put a bar on them, they look pretty good."

This is the patterned front opening on a car. They’re talking about the new look on the Hilux’s nose.

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bar

"But once you put a bar on them, they look pretty good. Yeah. Well, even with it, so this is the thing with a bit of, with some chunkier tyres, blacked out wheels, it just, I don't know what to do. And a little lift, like, yeah. A little lift, it just changed everything for me."

This is a metal guard fitted to the front of the vehicle. People add it to help protect the front end when driving off-road.

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chunkier tyres

"Well, even with it, so this is the thing with a bit of, with some chunkier tyres, blacked out wheels, it just, I don't know what to do. And a little lift, like, yeah. A little lift, it just changed everything for me."

These are bigger, tougher-looking tires. They can make a vehicle look more off-road ready and help it grip better on rough ground.

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blacked out wheels

"And a little lift, like, yeah. A little lift, it just changed everything for me. Actually, it looks sharp. I like the look of it now. Yeah. But I was so unsure about it at the start."

These are wheels painted or coated black. People use them to make a truck or SUV look tougher or more modern.

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median household income

"So the median income earner can no longer afford to buy a 300. Now, I'm releasing a video on Sunday about this."

This is basically the income of a typical household. They’re using it to show that new SUVs have gotten too expensive for regular buyers.

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golden age of buying a brand new Land Cruiser

"...it's more like we've passed the golden era of buying a brand new Land Cruiser. It was achievable for most people in any median household owner."

They mean a time when a new Land Cruiser was still within reach for a normal family budget. The discussion is about how much more expensive new 4WDs have become.

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four wheel drives

"Is this a new car out? It's like 86 choices, I believe. Let's just say 80, but it's more than that, of four wheel drives. Not all wheel drives, but four wheel drives."

They’re talking about off-road vehicles and how many different ones you can buy today. The point is that the market has exploded compared with the past.

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solid axle

"...if you go back to 1980s, it would have been like 20 choices. And 10 of those would have been solid axle. Yeah. It's an interesting one."

This is a tough old-school suspension setup used on many off-road vehicles. It helps with ruggedness and wheel movement over rough terrain.

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cash

"So in that area. Yeah. In that era. Yeah. And then now you can't. No, you can't. Because what you earned and what you had to pay and what the car was worth, it was just like, it was perfect."

This means paying for the car all at once, instead of borrowing money. They’re saying a normal buyer could once do that with a Land Cruiser, but not anymore.

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Nissan

"that was like the best time, you know, because yet Nissan brought out some wicked cars as well. It was just a really good time. Oh, six. Yeah. But you know, the old days was just like,"

Nissan is a car company. The hosts are saying Nissan also had some good off-road vehicles around that time.

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full drive market

"BYDs, there's so many different options out there. And I think it's a great thing because it just means there's more people who are able to get into a full drive market. But there's heaps of, heaps of four wheel drives out there now."

They mean the market for four-wheel-drive vehicles. The conversation is about how there are now many more choices for people who want a 4WD.

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too many choices

"I somewhat disagree that it's a good thing having too many choices. You reckon? Yeah. Picture this, you're sitting there at home in a couch and you're scrolling through Netflix half an hour later. Fuck, I don't know what to pick."

They’re talking about how having lots of vehicle options can make it hard to choose. Sometimes more choices just makes shopping stressful.

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Netflix scroll analogy

"Picture this, you're sitting there at home in a couch and you're scrolling through Netflix half an hour later. Fuck, I don't know what to pick. So imagine someone who's looking at four wheel drives, has no idea, hasn't found this podcast yet,"

They compare car shopping to endlessly scrolling through Netflix and not being able to pick a show. It’s their way of saying too many options can be annoying.

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rom-com

"Yeah, we've seen that one. We just don't want to watch the rom-com. Rom-com. What is it with bloody rom-coms? What is the rom-com of vehicles? Oh, the rom-com of vehicles? Probably a Prado."

A rom-com is a romantic comedy movie. They’re jokingly comparing a type of car to something sweet, predictable, and a little cheesy.

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Toyota Prado

"What is the rom-com of vehicles? Oh, the rom-com of vehicles? Probably a Prado."

The Toyota Prado is a popular 4WD SUV. They’re joking that it’s the kind of vehicle everyone knows and many people like, even if it’s not the most exciting choice.

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Car

Toyota Land Cruiser

"...like, because it's probably not a nice thing to hear about all the fuel situation, how much it costs now, and that's, you know, most people cannot afford a brand new Land Cruiser. The dream of buying a brand new Land Cruiser. But the thing is, God, it's depressing..."

This is Toyota's big off-road SUV. People like it because it's tough and very capable, but a new one can be expensive.

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modifying your car

"...Whatever you have now, whatever gear you have now, you don't need the latest and greatest. You just need to go out and use it. Because I find that we all get stuck in chasing that one thing. So you're modifying your car. You want this specific bull bar..."

It means changing your car after you buy it, like adding accessories or upgrades. Here they're saying people often want the next upgrade instead of just enjoying what they already own.

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rooftop tent

"...Next thing might be a rooftop tent, but you have a swag. You look at your swag, it's not a rooftop tent, but I really want a rooftop tent. You get your rooftop tent and you think things are going to be so much better..."

It's a tent that sits on top of your car. People use it for camping so they can sleep off the ground.

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swag

"...Next thing might be a rooftop tent, but you have a swag. You look at your swag, it's not a rooftop tent, but I really want a rooftop tent. You get your rooftop tent and you think things are going to be so much better..."

In Australia, a swag is a simple camping bed you can roll up and carry. It's a basic way to sleep outdoors without buying a fancy tent.

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track

"Like I went pretty hard when I first got it. But at the moment, there's nothing else I need to go camping or to get out on a track or to go for a drive, except basically fuel at the moment, which I can't... I don't want to fill up a full tank of fuel."

A track is a place where people drive cars hard in a controlled setting. They’re saying the vehicle already does everything they need, including track use.

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bowser

"What I'm saving in not chasing the latest and greatest could be spending... Maybe you can spend on the bowser. Yeah, could we spend on the bowser? Could we spend at the shop to get the food for the trip?"

A bowser is just the place where you fill up with fuel. In this conversation, they mean money going into gas instead of other upgrades.

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camping and travel spending priorities

"Because one thing you will get out of camping or just heading out with your kids or your partner or whatever, your mates, it's the experience. You can't buy that. Buying an item is not going to make the experience with the people you travel with any better."

They’re talking about spending money on the trip itself instead of on extra car gear. The idea is that the memories and time with people are more valuable than buying more things.

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Gather Round

"I did have a chat with some guys over at Gather Round, just like some fans of people who were just there. Yeah. From Interstate and stuff. And there were quite a few people who had people that were going with cancel going to Gather Round because they couldn't afford the fuel prices to come across."

Gather Round is a big sports weekend in Adelaide. People travel there from other states, so the hosts are talking about how much fuel costs can affect whether people drive.

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Interstate

"I did have a chat with some guys over at Gather Round, just like some fans of people who were just there. Yeah. From Interstate and stuff. And there were quite a few people who had people that were going with cancel going to Gather Round because they couldn't afford the fuel prices to come across."

This means coming from another state, not just another town. The people they’re talking about had to travel a long way to get to the event.

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fuel prices

"...there were quite a few people who had people that were going with cancel going to Gather Round because they couldn't afford the fuel prices to come across. Yeah. Well, there was... I'm pretty sure... Maybe the Victorian government who..."

This just means how much it costs to fill up your car. If fuel is expensive, a long drive can become too costly for some people.

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Melbourne to Adelaide road trip

"Especially after this morning. They must have done a little a fuel deal for people who were driving to Gather Round because Melbourne Adelaide's eight hours, basically. So there might have been a little deal. Maybe if you had your Gather Round tickets..."

They’re talking about the long drive from Melbourne to Adelaide. It’s used as an example of how expensive fuel can make a trip harder to justify.

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fuel discount

"So the AFL announced that they were doing a bigger fuel discount for Gather Round weekends. So if you have a Gather Round ticket or whatever and you're driving across there, you get a discount of 10 cents a litre on fuel."

This means getting gas for less money than usual. In this case, people with tickets could save a bit when filling up for the trip.

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10 cents a litre

"So the AFL announced that they were doing a bigger fuel discount for Gather Round weekends. So if you have a Gather Round ticket or whatever and you're driving across there, you get a discount of 10 cents a litre on fuel. Yeah."

In Australia, fuel is sold by the litre. A 10-cent-a-litre discount means each litre costs 10 cents less, so you save a little every time you fill up.

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fill-up

"[1790.1s] Yeah, it's just like, oh, stuff it on. $3.50, anyone can pay it. [1793.9s] Yeah. But the thing is, what's the minimum fill-up for leaders? [1796.7s] It's the same amount of money at the end of the day. [1799.8s] There's a minimum fuel, there's a minimum fill-up amount at the server. It's like, [1805.7s] it's four litres or something like that. So four litres at $3.20."

A fill-up just means putting gas in the car. They’re talking about how much fuel you have to buy and how expensive it is.

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three-cylinder

"[1805.7s] it's four litres or something like that. So four litres at $3.20. [1812.3s] It's still like, that's, maybe you would have just gone, like a little two-cylinder, [1817.1s] like a little three-cylinder, one-litre three-cylinder, [1819.9s] buddy, Nissan Tita or something, you'd like. That would have almost got your full tank"

It’s a small engine with three cylinders inside. Cars with these engines are usually small and meant to use less fuel.

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Nissan Tiida

"[1812.3s] It's still like, that's, maybe you would have just gone, like a little two-cylinder, [1817.1s] like a little three-cylinder, one-litre three-cylinder, [1819.9s] buddy, Nissan Tita or something, you'd like. That would have almost got your full tank [1824.6s] back in the day. It would have caused you like eight bucks. Now it's like 20. [1828.9s] Yeah, it's so true, actually. Yeah."

The Nissan Tiida is a small, practical car. They’re using it as an example of a car that doesn’t need much fuel.

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Nissan Tita

"... three-cylinder, one-litre three-cylinder, buddy, Nissan Tita or something, you'd like. That would have almost ..."

The Nissan Titan Crew Cab is a pickup truck made by Nissan. It has four full-size doors and a larger back seat area.

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EPA

"Yeah. This is the fuel refiner in Geelong. Yes. Obviously, with the refiner being on fire and all that, there's a fair bit of environmental. Yeah. When I say the word or the letters EPA, what does it remind you guys of? Simpsons. Yeah."

EPA is the government group that makes and enforces environmental rules. People bring it up in car talk when they’re discussing emissions, fuel, or rules that affect vehicles.

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The Simpsons movie

"EPA. No, I haven't seen that. The Simpsons movie. I've seen the Simpsons movie. Yeah. When Grandpa's losing his marbles and he's like, she's ahead of their time out. Yeah, they are, really."

They’re talking about a scene from The Simpsons movie. It’s just a joke reference while they’re chatting about EPA.

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Environmental Protection Agency

"And it stands to, is that Environmental Protection Agency? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That one probably went over my head. And that's who comes in and shuts down Springfield at the big dome."

This is the full name for EPA. It’s the agency people mean when they talk about environmental rules that can affect cars.

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The Simpsons voice impressions

"I always think of Bart in the train with the bra on his head. And he's like, pretending to be Mickey Mouse. He's like, I'm the mascot of an evil incorporation. That always gets me. Can you hear that voice again? The man with many voices."

They’re just joking around about cartoon voices from The Simpsons. It’s a side conversation, not about cars.

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canopy

"So what are we at? Where's the canopy? Where's the... So what's on the grenadier?"

A canopy is like a cover or box added to the back of a truck so you can carry stuff more safely and keep it dry. Off-road people use them a lot for gear and camping.

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weather and trip planning

"Well, the car... Well, I'm planning that out still because there's been a cyclone. Yep. That's altered many people's plans. ... So I've got him running around with like a cup out there collecting how many mills actually happening."

They’re mostly talking about bad weather and how it’s changing their plans. It sounds like they’re waiting to see if conditions improve before doing anything.

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cyclone

"Well, the car... Well, I'm planning that out still because there's been a cyclone. Yep. That's altered many people's plans."

A cyclone is a big storm with lots of rain and strong winds. It can mess up travel plans and make roads or tracks unsafe.

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GMC Cyclone

"...'m planning that out still because there's been a cyclone. Yep."

The GMC Cyclone is a small pickup truck made by GMC. It was built in the early 1990s and is known for being a fast truck.

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weather bureau

"But it's not as bad as what the weather bureau said. They're giving you like this. It's going to drop about 15 to 60 mil."

This is the official weather service that predicts rain and storms. They’re saying the forecast didn’t match the real conditions very well.

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15 to 60 mil

"They're giving you like this. It's going to drop about 15 to 60 mil. It's like, wow."

They’re talking about how much rain might fall, measured in millimeters. The big range means the forecast is pretty uncertain.

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mills

"So I've got him running around with like a cup out there collecting how many mills actually happening. He would do that for you too, Rafa."

They mean millimeters, which is how people often measure rain. They’re joking about collecting the rain to see how much is really coming down.

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Fraser Island

"So we've got a backup plan in place, but I'm hoping that we go with plan A rather than plan B. Right. So plan B will be Fraser Island. You know I've been there."

Fraser Island is a well-known place people take 4WDs to drive on sand and explore beaches. The hosts are talking about whether that trip will happen as their backup plan.

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Cape York trip planning

""Cape York is plan A. Is it Cape York? Cape York is, well, the Cape is plan A. Yeah. Not necessarily Cape York, but Cape York may be plan part of the, the second time I fly back because I'm going to fly back a few times.""

They’re talking about getting ready for a big off-road trip to Cape York. It’s a famous remote driving destination in Australia, so planning around it matters a lot.

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Brizzy

""So the car's in Brizzy. I've got. Wait, which car's in Brizzy? The Grenadier. Oh, okay.""

"Brizzy" is just a nickname for Brisbane, Australia. They’re saying the vehicle is over there in that city.

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Ineos Grenadier

""So the car's in Brizzy. I've got. Wait, which car's in Brizzy? The Grenadier. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, from, yeah, gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's still over there.""

This is a tough off-road vehicle made by Ineos. It’s built to handle rough tracks and remote travel, which is why it comes up in a 4WD podcast.

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tank's still empty

""Yeah, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, I presume the tank's still empty because I sent it over empty. Right. That's when all this fuel should start.""

They mean the fuel tank was left empty on purpose. That’s often done when a vehicle is being shipped or moved long distance.

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truck the car

"But it makes sense to truck the car now. What's that with? Oh yeah, with fuel."

They mean putting the car on a truck or trailer instead of driving it all the way. It’s a way to move the car without putting miles on it.

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fleet

""Would you say the Ineos is the leader of your fleet now?" "It's, would you say that's the choice 1A?" "1A. Choice 1A, doesn't need 1A.""

A fleet just means all the vehicles someone has together. They’re asking whether this one is the main vehicle in the person’s collection.

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choice 1A

""Would you say that's the choice 1A?" "1A. Choice 1A, doesn't need 1A." "It's the choice 1A as a wagon." "I mean, as a ute.""

They mean the number-one pick. It’s just a casual way of saying this is the favorite vehicle.

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wagon

""It's the choice 1A as a wagon." "I mean, as a ute." "Okay. Yeah." "It's your own the ute though.""

A wagon is a car shape with extra space in the back. They’re comparing that to the truck-like version of the vehicle.

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community reciprocity

"up there filming with some of these communities and not really just taking and not really giving. When I say giving, it's like, you know, doing something for them as well. Because on a monetary side of things, it's, I'm running a pretty tight budget. So it might, yeah, we're trying to do something like a canning where we, you know, which we try and do something everywhere we go because you can't expect to give something, get something and not give anything back."

They’re talking about not just showing up, filming, and leaving. They want to help the local people or communities in return for the access and hospitality they get.

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Savannah Way

"So it's going to be reciprocal. That's right. So that's, that's the plan. And then we'll draw, I'll probably do the Savannah way on the way back to Broome and then bring it back down to Perth."

This is a big road trip route in Australia. They’re saying they may drive back using that route before heading to Perth.

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Perth

"And then we'll draw, I'll probably do the Savannah way on the way back to Broome and then bring it back down to Perth. Who will be with you across that period?"

Perth is a city in Australia. They’re saying they’ll drive back down there after the trip.

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Broome

"And then we'll draw, I'll probably do the Savannah way on the way back to Broome and then bring it back down to Perth. Who will be with you across that period?"

Broome is a place in Australia. They’re talking about driving there and then continuing on to Perth.

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mud-terrain tires

"Big question. Maybe question of the day. Does Chris have either all-terrain or mud-terrain tires on his vehicle yet? Mate, he's still got all-terrain."

These are chunky off-road tires made for tough terrain like mud and rocks. They grip better off-road, but they’re usually louder and less comfortable on normal roads.

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all-terrain tires

"Big question. Maybe question of the day. Does Chris have either all-terrain or mud-terrain tires on his vehicle yet? Mate, he's still got all-terrain."

These are tires made for both regular roads and rough tracks. They’re a middle-ground option if you drive on pavement most of the time but still want some off-road ability.

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cheese cutters

"Mate, he's still got all-terrain. Sorry, the all-terrain, not the skinny, the skinny cheese cutters. Yeah. Yeah."

This is slang for skinny tires. People use it when they’re talking about tires that are much narrower than usual.

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pull him out

"He doesn't have, he's not the one who has to pull himself out though. That is true. Convening convening is the rest of the convoy. Always getting others to pull him off."

This means helping a stuck vehicle get moving again. Off-road drivers often use another truck or special gear to tow or drag it free.

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convoy

"That is true. Convening convening is the rest of the convoy. Always getting others to pull him off."

A convoy is just a bunch of vehicles driving together. On off-road trips, that matters because other drivers can help pull someone out if they get stuck.

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Isuzu Trooper

"Well, I have to show this on the next podcast, but I've got, Chris sent me a video of a trooper that got stuck up in the Shark Bay. He pulled over for lunch."

The Isuzu Trooper was a tough SUV people used for driving off-road and on rough tracks. They’re talking about one that got bogged down in the sand or terrain at Shark Bay.

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bogged

"So remember when, when Chris got bogged up at Shark Bay? Yeah. Because he, yeah, didn't pay attention where he was going in."

This means the vehicle got stuck in soft ground and couldn’t drive out. Off-roaders use this word a lot when a truck or 4WD sinks into sand or mud.

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Shark Bay recovery story

"So remember when, when Chris got bogged up at Shark Bay? Yeah. Because he, yeah, didn't pay attention where he was going in. Yeah. Ended up severely bogged and called me and, well, and then I got that story about the other trooper that was, had to be recovered by a boat."

They’re talking about a time someone got stuck while off-roading at Shark Bay. The story is being used as context for a recovery situation.

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recovered by a boat

"...and then I got that story about the other trooper that was, had to be recovered by a boat. Yeah. Yeah. So that recovery guy, he sent Chris something the other day, just one second."

They mean the vehicle was so stuck that a boat had to be used to get it out. That’s a pretty unusual recovery situation.

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