Tough Dog is a brand that makes off-road parts for 4WDs and trucks. People use their gear to improve ride quality and help vehicles handle rough tracks.
They’re talking about a fire at a place that makes fuel for cars. The discussion is about what happened, where it happened, and whether it could affect drivers.
Diesel is another kind of fuel, usually used by trucks, some SUVs, and work vehicles. The hosts are talking about how its supply was less affected than petrol.
An oil refinery is a factory that turns crude oil into the fuels cars and planes use. If it has problems, fuel can become harder to get and more expensive.
They’re talking about an old refinery that was built in the 1950s. Older facilities often need more repairs and upgrades, which is why they’re saying it may be in trouble.
Car
GWM Haval
This is a new SUV from a Chinese car company called GWM. They’re saying it’s being built to compete with big popular SUVs.
The Toyota Hilux is a tough pickup truck that’s popular for work and off-road driving. They’re talking about a newer version and how adding accessories can make it look better.
They mean a time when a new Land Cruiser was still within reach for a normal family budget. The discussion is about how much more expensive new 4WDs have become.
They’re talking about off-road vehicles and how many different ones you can buy today. The point is that the market has exploded compared with the past.
This means paying for the car all at once, instead of borrowing money. They’re saying a normal buyer could once do that with a Land Cruiser, but not anymore.
They compare car shopping to endlessly scrolling through Netflix and not being able to pick a show. It’s their way of saying too many options can be annoying.
The Toyota Prado is a popular 4WD SUV. They’re joking that it’s the kind of vehicle everyone knows and many people like, even if it’s not the most exciting choice.
It means changing your car after you buy it, like adding accessories or upgrades. Here they're saying people often want the next upgrade instead of just enjoying what they already own.
A track is a place where people drive cars hard in a controlled setting. They’re saying the vehicle already does everything they need, including track use.
They’re talking about spending money on the trip itself instead of on extra car gear. The idea is that the memories and time with people are more valuable than buying more things.
Gather Round is a big sports weekend in Adelaide. People travel there from other states, so the hosts are talking about how much fuel costs can affect whether people drive.
EPA is the government group that makes and enforces environmental rules. People bring it up in car talk when they’re discussing emissions, fuel, or rules that affect vehicles.
A canopy is like a cover or box added to the back of a truck so you can carry stuff more safely and keep it dry. Off-road people use them a lot for gear and camping.
They’re mostly talking about bad weather and how it’s changing their plans. It sounds like they’re waiting to see if conditions improve before doing anything.
Fraser Island is a well-known place people take 4WDs to drive on sand and explore beaches. The hosts are talking about whether that trip will happen as their backup plan.
They’re talking about getting ready for a big off-road trip to Cape York. It’s a famous remote driving destination in Australia, so planning around it matters a lot.
They’re talking about not just showing up, filming, and leaving. They want to help the local people or communities in return for the access and hospitality they get.
These are chunky off-road tires made for tough terrain like mud and rocks. They grip better off-road, but they’re usually louder and less comfortable on normal roads.
These are tires made for both regular roads and rough tracks. They’re a middle-ground option if you drive on pavement most of the time but still want some off-road ability.
A convoy is just a bunch of vehicles driving together. On off-road trips, that matters because other drivers can help pull someone out if they get stuck.
The Isuzu Trooper was a tough SUV people used for driving off-road and on rough tracks. They’re talking about one that got bogged down in the sand or terrain at Shark Bay.
These are people who spend a lot of time living on the road in their vehicle. The speakers are describing the Troopy as if it belongs to someone traveling full-time with lots of gear.
This means the vehicle has been modified from factory spec. They’re saying this Troopy has extra gear and changes that make it heavier and harder to move through mud.
MaxRax makes accessories for off-road and camping vehicles, like roof racks and tables. They’re pointing out that this truck is loaded up with gear from that brand.
A leaf spring is a suspension part that helps support the vehicle and smooth bumps. It’s often used on tougher vehicles that carry heavy loads or go off-road.
This means a car that uses computer smarts to help decide what to do. In this case, they mean a car that might notice mud and tell the driver not to go in.
Geely is a car company from China. They’re talking about one of Geely’s cars that might use AI to warn the driver not to enter a muddy area.
Car
Geely Battlefield 700
Geely is a car company, and this sounds like one of its vehicle names. The hosts are joking that it has so many features it feels like a transformer or a boat.
It means the car can figure out how to send power to the wheels by itself. Instead of the driver choosing everything, the vehicle tries to pick the best setting for snow, mud, or sand.
Car
Geely Battleship 700
This is a Geely SUV or off-road vehicle with a smart system that decides how to send power to the wheels. The hosts are joking that it takes too much of the driving decision-making away from the person behind the wheel.
These are special settings for different kinds of ground. A car can change how it drives so it handles better on snow, mud, or sand.
Term
crab wall
They’re talking about a trick where the vehicle can move sideways or diagonally a bit. It helps in tight off-road situations or when lining up the car on rough ground.
They’re talking about the movie WALL-E, where robots do a lot of the work. Here, they’re comparing that idea to cars that can drive people around by themselves.
The Subaru Outback is a car people buy when they want something useful for everyday life and trips outdoors. It can handle dirt roads and light trails, but it’s not meant for extreme off-road driving.
They’re talking about using a car for camping trips and long road trips, not just driving around town. The idea is whether a vehicle is good for everyday life and outdoor adventures too.
They’re talking about a mountain area in Australia where people go for scenic drives and outdoor trips. It’s an example of the kind of place this car can take you.
They’re talking about a big road trip in Australia that goes through famous outback areas. It’s an example of a long journey where a practical car matters.
This is Toyota’s compact car, and they’re talking about changing its suspension and tires to make it more off-road capable. The point is that even a normal car can be modified, but it may drive worse afterward.
They mean putting larger tires on a vehicle than it came with from the factory. Bigger tires can help off-road, but they can also make the car feel worse on the road.
These are tires made for both road driving and dirt or gravel. They’re a common upgrade for people who want better off-road grip without going full race-truck.
These are special off-road tires with big, chunky tread. They help a vehicle grip in mud and rough trails, but they can be louder and rougher on normal roads.
This means driving a vehicle off-road, where all four wheels can help with traction. It’s the kind of driving people do on trails, beaches, and remote tracks.
Heavy plant is just a fancy way of saying big machines and equipment used for construction or industrial work. The truck is being used around that kind of gear.
When someone says a vehicle feels planted, they mean it feels steady and not sketchy. It seems to sit well on the ground, even on rough or steep terrain.
They’re saying the truck is extremely heavy. That helps explain why it can carry a lot of gear, but it also means the truck has to be built very strongly.
This is the gearbox in the vehicle, and it has ten different forward gears. More gears can make driving smoother and more efficient, but on hills it may keep shifting too much unless you take control yourself.
This means you can tell the vehicle when to shift gears instead of having it do it by itself. That can be helpful when driving on rough hills or trails.
This means the vehicle is in a special off-road gear setting that makes it easier to crawl over rough ground. It helps the driver move slowly with more power and control.
Instead of only using the brake pedal, the engine helps slow the car down. That’s useful going downhill because it gives you more control and helps keep the brakes from overheating.
This is the gas tank, and it holds a lot of fuel. That means the vehicle can go much farther before needing to refuel, which is important far from towns.
They’re talking about trips out in the desert and how that kind of driving is different from what they usually do. It’s basically a travel-and-off-road segment.
They’re talking about a famous remote off-road trip in Australia. It’s the kind of route people dream about doing because it’s long, isolated, and challenging.
Fire trails are rough dirt roads used to get into bushland or help firefighters reach remote areas. People with 4WDs often drive them because they’re challenging and scenic.
Topic
Cosy Oscoe National Park
They seem to be talking about a national park location in the footage. The name is hard to hear clearly, so it may be misspelled in the transcript.
This is a type of automatic gearbox with ten different forward gears. It can be smoother and more efficient, but sometimes it keeps changing gears a lot instead of settling on one.
This means the vehicle keeps changing gears back and forth instead of staying in one gear. It can feel annoying because the car seems unsure what to do.
This is a 4WD vehicle where the driver can choose gears more directly. The speakers are saying that gives you more control than an automatic that still decides things for itself sometimes.
They’re joking about whether something would be seen as totally wrong by off-road fans. It’s not religious here — just a funny way to say 'controversial.'
They’re talking about a place or sign they keep seeing while driving. It sounds like a spot people notice on road trips and talk about because it’s memorable.
The Suzuki Jimny is a tiny off-road-style SUV. People like it because it can go places bigger vehicles struggle with, but in this case the rental rules say it can only stay on regular roads.
They’re talking about a region with lots of forests and off-road driving spots. It sounds like a place you’d go for a long 4WD trip or a scenic road adventure.
This is likely a company name being thanked for supporting the show. It’s not a car part or model.
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Backchats Studio. It's built by Granted, who we got to drive around in the beautiful highlights.
Last week, James, a lovely ride in that. I caught up with Paulie, actually,
at the airport in Adelaide. Did you? Then he asked about how it went and I felt a bit
bad because I sort of ragged the power in it a bit early. You did. But I said it looked
mint and it drove really nice when I gave it a bit of a boot on the second drive. Did
you tell him about the power? Yeah, I told him early. I was a little bit worried that
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I came in. And that voice is Ronnie Dahl, ladies and gentlemen. He's back in the hot seat.
How are you, my friend? Yeah, good. How are you? I'm going well. You still got the
Chris Hemsworth look going, which I'm a big fan of. It's very nice. The beard looks
the beard looks beautifully manicured and the hair very Chris Hemsworth like.
I haven't actually oiled it, but it is oil. Do you oil your beard? Yeah, I do. Right. Is that
to maintain strength and structure? Make things stop sticking to it, I guess.
Right. Not that it's a problem, but I didn't know. As a person who can't grow a beard,
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Are you doing it? I'm talking about you. I'm running through the run sheet.
When Ronnie is here, Tough Dog tip of the week, I'll just wipe my hands and I sit back.
Yeah, just forget about it. Yeah, just let me know when that one's going to happen.
I will let you know. I want to. I've got time. Before we get into anything else,
I want to get into a part of on the radar. There's another part of on the radar here
that I'm looking at and it just doesn't spark my interest like it sparks
what Jaden has just put into the run sheet here. So I'm going to kick us off with that one.
And Ronnie doesn't know what we're talking about here. We've decided to
leave him in the dark on this so that he can hear this for the first time right now.
I've been trying to work out what it is. Well, this is breaking news.
Can we? Just quickly, what do you think? Give me your top three guesses on what you
think this breaking news is. Breaking news. And it's the four-wheel drive world is connected.
Well, I've been trying. I've been eavesdropping on you both.
And I heard the word refinery. So it's got something to do with fuel.
That would have been me. But we don't have any refineries in Australia.
So are we getting a refinery? Is it good news or is it bad news?
I don't know. Did a refinery blow up? Did Trump just blow up all refineries that aren't
US? What happened? I mean, you're pretty spot on except for the fact we do have two
refineries in Australia. Two oil refineries in Australia.
Oh, we do. Two oil refineries. One in Geelong in Victoria and one in Queensland somewhere.
Correct. Is this a we do or we did situation?
We still do. We still do. So basically an unprecedented in air quotes fire.
This is this morning. Broke out at the Viva Energy Oil Refinery in Geelong last night. So
11 p.m. over in Victorian time, the fire started and yeah, still going.
An oil fire. Yep. Oh, for fuck's sake.
So it started in like the in the motor gasoline section, a big leak of liquid hydrocarbons and
gases and then all just exploded from there. It's called equipment and pop value.
This might be a crude method, but I think occupation, health and safety might not allow it
in Australia, but I'm pretty sure you used to have to throw dynamite loose things and then you'd
stop the fire. Really? And it can start over. Well, they did. They've said that it's been
contained to a 30 by 30 area meter area, which is pretty massive. And they're expecting it to
take another four to five hours to fully bring under control. So I don't know when this article
was released, but the fires obviously started at 11 o'clock Victorian time. So
eastern standard time. And it's whenever these articles been released, which I'm assuming is this
morning. Another four for so they're probably still. Yeah, they're probably still trying to
contain it. Yeah. So as of about 20 minutes ago, this is 9 a.m. on a Thursday. Australian
West is standard time as about 10 minutes ago, the fires been contained. It's not impacted
the diesel or jet fuel areas directly, but there was a there's been a ramping down of other production
units in the area for safety reasons. Obviously, there's a massive fire going on that are going
to continue people working. Not the there's not probably the last place you want on fire.
All right. Yeah, it is. Yeah. I almost think someone someone's been paid to do that so they
can put the fucking prices up again. It's a bit weird, isn't it? You know, have we ever
had a fire? Like, has there been a massive fire like this? I don't know. I'm sure
there has been one precedented in Australia. So I would say that they haven't had a fire
like this before. So the timing of it is unreal for us to lose a part of a refinery like that.
Yeah, it's an interesting one. The but do we actually get fuel from Geelong? Well, so this
Jan's Jan's a great job here. The V of energy Geelong refinery supplies up to 10%
of Australia's total fuel and Victoria gets half of its petrol from this refinery.
So that 50% of Victorians fuel comes from this refinery and 10% of Australia's total fuel comes
from this refinery. So with that, you said petrol. Petrol. Yeah, half of Victoria get their petrol
from the Geelong oil refinery. Yeah, well, petrol, petrol, petrol production is the most
impacted one out of this fire diesel and jet fuel still continuing on still going,
but at reduced levels due to a precaution. Well, hello, Australia. If you're driving a
petrol engine, now you know what it feels like driving a diesel. Yeah, well, it's just I don't
want to speculate at all. But what timing for equipment failure? Well, one of the two oil
refineries that we've got in Australia, I've actually got something that's that's going to
baffle you. So you can look it up on fuel watch. You can see the prices. If you go
to Kananara, there is an independent guy who brings in fuel gets it from Singapore like all the
other places do sells it for $2.20. Now it's gone up to $2.50. We're talking diesel. Yeah,
he's applies to all local mines around there. But it goes to show you how much all these other
big corporations are getting away with putting so much putting the price up. Yeah.
So it's profiteering. It's not a supply problem. It's, you know, they're using the supply
problem as a way to raise the price. Yeah. Yeah, we spoke about it, Jaden,
where we thought that the because of the the tax was being cut by half that are the
excise. Yeah, that we were going to see some. Yes, I still haven't seen anything. I haven't
seen a change. I haven't seen a change. Petrol may have gone down slightly. Petrol looks okay,
but it was going to be a couple of weeks for that to kick in. And it's been a couple of weeks.
It's been a couple of weeks. Nothing's changed. So
so don't they don't need pressure before I change it? I mean, well, it's obviously the
excise. It's obviously in play. That's that's it's not just like waiting around. It's like,
oh, yeah, you got to activate it. It's $3.10, $3.20. That has happened. Must be included.
It just means that the fuel stations, the fuel companies are paying less
tax on the fuel. So they're profiting now all of that, all of that margin. They are.
They're profiting because they haven't changed fuel prices. Like I just had a look at
Kananara, Ronnie, what you're saying $2.19 for diesel, $2.19 for diesel.
It's Kananara. $2.39, $2.39 for places. Yeah. They're bringing in through Wyndham.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. You almost drive up there just to get some fuel, then drive back down again. Oh,
mate. What's that? It just shows you how bullshit this is, right? And you know that Burke fuel
station? Yep. You always wonder how can I make it so much cheaper? Well, they can make it so much
cheaper because they're making so much money. So you might look at Burke and think, geez,
they're like must just be hanging in there because their prices are so much lower than
BP, Caltex, all the other ones. But the thing is, sometimes the owner parks at the Wangara
one. There's a friggin Lamborghini. He's not doing, he's not doing bad for himself.
No. And, and if he's, if he's at that caliber level of earning money, why would you,
why would you dilly-dally in a servo if it's not going to make you money? Right? So
there's a lot more. Yeah. No, it's, it's still, it is baffling to a degree.
With this oil refinery firing along, no residential area being impacted?
Not at the moment, but it isn't far from residential areas around there. So
Why is it dry past this oil refinery quite regularly? And it was, and it's not too far away
from residential areas. Yeah, pretty close. So at the moment it's contained,
hasn't affected residential residential areas at the moment, other than some evacuation calls
and that kind of stuff just as a precaution, but hasn't affected it. I've got an interesting quote
here from a ANU supply chain expert, Dr. David Leaney, who said, we can expect petrol outages
across Victoria in the coming weeks and months. So if you're in Victoria, just be careful because
you're going to be running out of fuel. Yeah, well, no, don't, don't stock up. Get what you need.
It's, it's pretty important to only get what you need and not panic by and
get more than, more than what you actually need. Yeah. Although the server will want you to panic
by because then, then the supply goes down, they put the price up and, and the news would love
you to do that too because they love, they love a good bad news story. Yeah, I'll be interested
to see what, what comes out of this, what happens to, to fuel prices. Apparently,
petrol is far more easily replaceable compared to diesel. So it's kind of like,
it's almost a blessing that it's the petrol side of the station that's gone up in flames and
not the diesel side. Well, for us three. Yeah, for us three and full drive owners and,
but I mean, it's, it's obviously not good at all. Very, very bad thing. So I just equipment
failure at the crunch point, which is what the experts are calling it of the fuel
crisis shortage, like an equipment failure is just massive, isn't it? Like it's such an
inconvenience for, for everyone really, the consumer and the supplier to a degree. Like it's
just not ideal. No, it's not something that you want because now the pressure comes from all angles
really. And I wonder who's doing the maintenance on that. Like you feel for them a little bit
because they are probably without a job this morning. Yeah, I wonder if it was a mistake
or something or it was gone. They'd been neglected on this part of the refinery.
They are in trouble. Oh, someone's had a bad day and just
we're just blaming on old age of the refinery.
This is a 1950s facility. So yeah, I mean 1950s. It's well worth it.
Probably needs an update. I'm sure they are at the top where they can. But anyway,
we'll see. We'll see. They might be shutting all of them down.
Hey, let's move on from that. I don't know if you want to cover the other thing on the
radar. Jayden or is that a master on the radar? I think that's good for on the radar. The other thing
was the GWM Haval. GWM Haval. So it's a new GWM are just releasing a new SUV in China that's meant
to compete with the 300 series and the Y63 apparently. Not much. Not every week there's
a new vehicle coming out to try and compete with them. Seems like it has. Well, especially
from China. They're just they're just really trying to compete with those Japanese vehicles.
MG, are they Chinese? No, no, no. MG? No, that's MG's part of British. I'm pretty sure they're
they're British. Well, I hadn't seen the because you know how the MG except they are now owned by
SAIC the Chinese Motor Company. I don't know how to put it forward, isn't it now? Yeah.
All right. I think well, I saw the MG Ute yesterday out the front of the
car dealership. I hadn't seen one yet. MG Ute. Yeah. Yeah, okay.
It's kind of like half. I haven't seen the MG Ute. What do you think? Oh, I mean, they
look comfortable. Yeah, it doesn't look like a workhorse in any. Yeah, you don't see too many
MG's around. No, no. Like it looks like those modern more like more towards the BYD sort of
BYDs are to be honest, they look like a fair bit of a tank if I'm lucky. I don't mind the
look of those, but the shark. Yeah, I don't mind the look of the shark. It's huge. It's a pigeon
in wolf clothing. That's what it is. But it's sort of more probably towards that, you know,
the future. The newer side of the new look. Yeah. The future city get around. Yeah. Yeah.
It is. It's heading that way though, isn't it? Even the Hilux, the one that we drove around,
had a similar look. Yeah, 90. Yeah. Now, just quickly on that, because we drove the grounded
one around last week. Yeah. And the Hilux is a Hilux. It was comfy. It drove pretty well.
But the interior is like the Prado. It is, yeah. Yeah, the interior is quite nice. It's a
really nice car in there. Drives well as you'd expect a Hilux too. The thing that we weren't sure
of was the look of it. But I don't know if you've seen, I don't know how we get a photo up nice and
easily for Ronnie. The front of the N90 Hilux is, I wasn't a big fan of, they've got that new
like, almost like a honeycomb grill. Yeah, not the biggest fan either. But once you put a bar
on them, they look pretty good. Yeah. Well, even with it, so this is the thing with a bit of,
with some chunkier tyres, blacked out wheels, it just, I don't know what to do. And a little lift,
like, yeah. A little lift, it just changed everything for me. Actually, it looks sharp.
I like the look of it now. Yeah. But I was so unsure about it at the start.
Thought about it. I actually think it's because it's got the grounded sticker on the side of it.
You just know that it's quality. Yeah. And that's, I think, that's, I think what did it.
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A little bit of black or white does look good. You've got to be honest.
No, it actually does look good. I agree with you. I didn't really like the front. And then
on that one, I was like, oh, you know what? Yeah. Actually could just not put a bar on this and be
happy with the look. Yeah. Obviously, you don't put a bar on just for looks.
If you were driving that thing mainly, it looks, it looks sharp. I like it.
It does look sharp. Yeah. It does look sharp. I'd still put a bar on it.
Maybe I wouldn't go hoops, but a nudge bar on it would look sick.
He'd bar up. Oh, I'd bar up. I'd bar up.
You like that?
Anyway, yeah. So I just thought that would be worth a mention is just that
Havao's trying to put out an SUV trying to compete. I mean, obviously, everyone's
trying to compete with the 300 and the Y62. These Chinese cars just come in at such a
lower price. Sorry. Competing with the 300. Are they still as popular as they were when
they sort of? The 300? Yeah. Well, are people buying them still?
So the median income earner can no longer afford to buy a 300. Now, I'm releasing a video on
Sunday about this. And it's more like we've passed the golden era of buying a brand new
Land Cruiser. It was achievable for most people in any median household owner.
Once you factor in the cost of paying your mortgage and the cost of your living
and everything else or your essentials, you would have enough money to save up for
a brand new Land Cruiser in 3.2 years. That was 2006.
So now it's three times. Three times that. So it is mathematically impossible for the
median household income earner to buy a GXL 300 series. It's crazy, isn't it?
The other thing that now it is like, I did a tally on it the other day, but every day it
fucking goes up. Is this a new car out? It's like 86 choices, I believe. Let's just say 80,
but it's more than that, of four wheel drives. Not all wheel drives, but four wheel drives.
That's how many choices there are now. And if you go back to 1980s, it would have been like
20 choices. And 10 of those would have been solid axle. Yeah. It's an interesting one. And
I think are you talking like with a loan or just purely outright buying a car? Like if you saved
a specific amount for three and a half years in 2006, would you have the total amount of money to
buy a Land Cruiser, like a GXL? Is that what it is? Well, if you save like a demon, you could
buy one with cash. Yeah. The median household owner could buy one with cash in 2006. So in
that area. Yeah. In that era. Yeah. And then now you can't. No, you can't. Because what you earned
and what you had to pay and what the car was worth, it was just like, it was perfect. Yeah.
And it was better than 1966. It was better in 1976. So it's, yeah, that was the best era.
And not only that, it was also the best era for the actual four wheel drive because
you didn't have too much electronics. And when the 200 series came out, when the V8 came out,
that was like the best time, you know, because yet Nissan brought out some wicked cars as well.
It was just a really good time. Oh, six. Yeah. But you know, the old days was just like,
yeah, they had a Toyota and a Nissan and now there's GWM, there's Haval, there's
BYDs, there's so many different options out there. And I think it's a great thing
because it just means there's more people who are able to get into a full drive market.
But there's heaps of, heaps of four wheel drives out there now.
I somewhat disagree that it's a good thing having too many choices.
You reckon? Yeah. Picture this, you're sitting there at home in a couch and you're scrolling
through Netflix half an hour later. Fuck, I don't know what to pick. So imagine someone
who's looking at four wheel drives, has no idea, hasn't found this podcast yet,
hasn't found my channel yet, has only seen other channels that just yip yap about this
car and that car, all the cars. What the hell do you get? This is too much choice.
That is a fair point. That is a fair point because you can get overwhelmed by the amount
of choices you have out there. Well, we've all done the Netflix scroll as you sit down with
dinner. Yeah. Next minute, it's 25 minutes gone past. You haven't touched dinner because you
still haven't found something to watch. This is a global experience, is it? It makes sense.
There's no switch at prime and you do the same thing. Then you go, then you hand it over to
you pick now. And then you put something on. She's on dessert. Yeah, she did it in two minutes.
And then when you miss this flick through it, it just happens to me anyway. I'm going to
stare at flicking through it. It's like, oh no, this one. Yeah, we've seen that one.
Yeah. Well, we've seen that one. We just don't want to watch the rom-com.
Rom-com. What is it with bloody rom-coms? What is the rom-com of vehicles?
Oh, the rom-com of vehicles? Probably a Prado.
Yeah, you wouldn't, you don't mind watching it. You're like, okay, I'll watch it.
Like if it's Matthew McCormack, I won't buy it. It's all good. Oh, he's in all one, isn't he?
But I'll watch it for sure. I like that. Yeah. Anyway, time for tough dog tip of the week.
Tip. Tip of the week. What rom-com were you watching last night, buddy?
From New Zealand, I think. Just a tip of the week, okay.
Hopefully that's not. Anyway, tough dog tip of the week, Ronnie. You got one?
Yeah. Well, I think I'll make it relatable to what we just spoke about,
like, because it's probably not a nice thing to hear about all the fuel situation,
how much it costs now, and that's, you know, most people cannot afford a brand new
Land Cruiser. The dream of buying a brand new Land Cruiser. But the thing is,
God, it's depressing. My tip of the week, and my tip for the year, I think, would be
don't even worry about what car you have. Whatever you have now, whatever gear you have
now, you don't need the latest and greatest. You just need to go out and use it.
Because I find that we all get stuck in chasing that one thing. So you're modifying your car.
You want this specific bull bar. So you save like a demon and you really want it.
By the time you get it and you put it on the car, if you needed it, cool.
But the thrill of wanting it is now gone because you got it. So now you chase the next thing.
Next thing might be a rooftop tent, but you have a swag. You look at your swag,
it's not a rooftop tent, but I really want a rooftop tent. You get your rooftop tent
and you think things are going to be so much better. Well, they might be a little bit better
if you don't like being on the ground. But if you don't mind being on the ground,
it's not going to be any better. It's just going to be different.
But you're $5,000 lighter in your pocket, whereas you could have just used your swag.
So I reckon just put everything on hold at the moment and just go and enjoy.
Yeah, it's good. I actually like that. I reckon I've had that in the past where
for no rhyme or reason, I just want what's next. I don't need it. I don't necessarily...
I don't even know if I want it. It's the chase.
I just want it because it's going to be something new and I think it's going to
improve or make me feel better. But in fact, it doesn't. And I've been able to
hold like I haven't done anything to the car for quite a while now.
Like I went pretty hard when I first got it. But at the moment,
there's nothing else I need to go camping or to get out on a track or to go for a drive,
except basically fuel at the moment, which I can't... I don't want to fill up a full tank of fuel.
But what I'm saving in not chasing the latest and greatest
could be spending... Maybe you can spend on the bowser.
Yeah, could we spend on the bowser? Could we spend at the shop to get the food for the trip?
Because one thing you will get out of camping or just heading out with your kids or your partner
or whatever, your mates, it's the experience. You can't buy that.
Buying an item is not going to make the experience with the people you travel with any better.
It's just going to make... I think just think about how long you're actually going to use
shit for as well. It's like when you book a hotel and you're travelling somewhere,
I never really give too much of a shit about the hotel. I'm just going there to sleep.
As long as there's no bed bugs and syringes or it's in a bad area, it's probably going to be
deep there. But as long as there's not like a dodgy hotel, that's all I care about.
I'm going there to sleep. I'm not spending time in a hotel. If I'm spending time in a
hotel, it's because I've got a freaking gastro. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. No, I like that. There's...
I think now more than ever. It's... That is, yeah, sound advice.
I think take the positive from the negatives of everything costing so much. The positive point
is you're now going to think about what you're spending more and just go out and enjoy more.
You've got your vehicle, nothing out there. There's nowhere you can't access,
still. It's all there for you. In fact, there'll be less people out there.
That's... Yeah, it might be the time. It's actually... Imagine right now, speaking in Western
Australia, beautiful sleeping conditions at night, waking up to a nice warm... It's
sunny. The sun's up. It's beautiful weather. The wind has dropped. It's an ideal time of
year. This time of year is the time that you'd love to be out and about. Only really in WA though.
WA dust. I don't know. You were at Gather Round. That was shocking.
Oh, Terrible in Adelaide. In fairness, Adelaide is usually very, very good.
Usually very nice. That time of year, I find. Well, each time I've been to Gather Round,
it's been quite nice. Yeah. Yeah, this time, all shocker. Not great at all. I did have a chat
with some guys over at Gather Round, just like some fans of people who were just there.
Yeah. From Interstate and stuff. And there were quite a few people who had people that were going
with cancel going to Gather Round because they couldn't afford the fuel prices to come across.
Yeah. Well, there was... I'm pretty sure... Maybe the Victorian government who... I'm
not sure if they can afford to do this at the moment because they're in a lot of...
Especially after this morning. They must have done a little
a fuel deal for people who were driving to Gather Round because Melbourne Adelaide's eight hours,
basically. So there might have been a little deal. Maybe if you had your Gather Round tickets...
I don't know if there's like a little fuel cut, I heard.
So the AFL announced that they were doing a bigger fuel discount for Gather Round weekends.
So if you have a Gather Round ticket or whatever and you're driving across there,
you get a discount of 10 cents a litre on fuel. Yeah.
Yeah. She's bizarre. I just came from Melbourne, actually, last week.
And they had free... You drive? No, no. I went to Singapore and then went to Melbourne.
So I did that triangle instead. Because you have to change plans to go into Europe and all
that. But they had free transport in Melbourne. Yeah, okay. But holy shit, it was packed, man.
Yeah, it was so packed. It was more packed than Singapore. Yeah, really? That's saying something.
It's actually an interesting thing. So if you have the AFL live official app,
you get four cents a litre discount on fuel. Really? Yeah, using the app.
You can only use it once per day. You get a barcode and you can use it once per day,
but you get the discount. Didn't know that. Yeah, resets at 9am the following day.
There you go. Yeah. Can you pile it up with your other four cents card?
Yeah. So now you're, instead of paying $3.50 for days, we're paying $3.42,
or RSE, so $3.33, $3.38. Yeah, bargain. Four cents, four cents, eight cents.
Take that. These don't age. Take what you get. Might be able to do a quarter of a tank.
It's funny, isn't it? It's like you knock it up from the supermarket.
It's a perception of it, right? Because if the fuel was only $1.50,
but you're saving eight cents, it's a much bigger ratio, you know?
Yeah, it's just like, oh, stuff it on. $3.50, anyone can pay it.
Yeah. But the thing is, what's the minimum fill-up for leaders?
It's the same amount of money at the end of the day.
There's a minimum fuel, there's a minimum fill-up amount at the server. It's like,
it's four litres or something like that. So four litres at $3.20.
It's still like, that's, maybe you would have just gone, like a little two-cylinder,
like a little three-cylinder, one-litre three-cylinder,
buddy, Nissan Tita or something, you'd like. That would have almost got your full tank
back in the day. It would have caused you like eight bucks. Now it's like 20.
Yeah, it's so true, actually. Yeah.
Well, I'm not diesel. I suppose Nissan Tita is not needed in diesel.
Yeah, but I'd go too far if you did that. Yeah.
You'll oil the engine up nicely. It's true.
All right. We missed a little environmental note.
Did we? Oh, we're going green, are we?
The fire water. I see the background green. Has entered Torayo Bay.
Yeah. This is the fuel refiner in Geelong. Yes.
Obviously, with the refiner being on fire and all that, there's a fair bit of environmental.
Yeah. When I say the word or the letters EPA, what does it remind you guys of?
Simpsons. Yeah.
Oh, is that?
EPA. No, I haven't seen that. The Simpsons movie.
I've seen the Simpsons movie.
Yeah. When Grandpa's losing his marbles and he's like,
she's ahead of their time out. Yeah, they are, really.
Do they put the dome over? Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Grandpa, they think Grandpa's losing his mind.
Like a epiphany almost. And he's like yelling in the church, EPA.
And it stands to, is that Environmental Protection Agency?
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. That one probably went over my head.
And that's who comes in and shuts down Springfield at the big dome.
I think it's because when that movie came out, me and Dago were kids,
like teenagers. So like that's probably stuck with us a fair bit.
Yeah. Anyway.
The bit of stuck with me was when he drives up the top of the dome and
gets his ass stuck at the top, doesn't he?
I always think of Bart in the train with the bra on his head. And he's like,
pretending to be Mickey Mouse. He's like,
I'm the mascot of an evil incorporation.
That always gets me.
Can you hear that voice again?
The man with many voices.
I'm the mascot of an evil incorporation.
That's not Bart.
That's the voice he was doing.
You try. You got the Mickey Mouse voice.
That sounded more like...
That is Mickey Mouse, actually. Not Bart. That's Mickey Mouse.
Well, it's Bart doing an impression of Mickey Mouse.
Thank you very much, mate.
Yeah, but you sound more like that.
Don't get any slack on this podcast.
I said, I have a kid that goes to school with Bart.
It's not Millhouse.
Yeah.
Wiggum's son. Chief Wiggum's son.
Ralph.
Yes. Ralph Wiggum.
You sound like Ralph.
Yeah.
Ralph Wiggum doing an impersonation of Bart,
doing an impersonation of Jaden, doing a Mickey Mouse.
There we go.
There we go.
That's one of the all-time impressions there,
boys, I would say.
One of the all-time impressions.
All right. Now, we need to touch on you, mate.
No, no, no.
We're going to touch you.
All right.
We're actually going to touch on you.
Put your hands out there as well, didn't you?
I won't hold my head.
So what are we at?
Where's the canopy?
Where's the...
So what's on the grenadier?
Have you got a new car?
I don't have a new car.
Have you got a new car?
That's good.
What's going on with the fleet?
Throw it out early.
But yeah, what's going on?
Where... What's happening in the life of Ronnie Dahl?
Well, the car... Well, I'm planning that out still
because there's been a cyclone.
Yep.
That's altered many people's plans.
Oh, okay.
Including yours.
Including mine.
Okay.
So I'm just waiting to hear about...
Because there was another cyclone,
but that's buggered off.
But they're still rain falling in Queensland.
But it's not as bad as what the weather bureau said.
They're giving you like this.
It's going to drop about 15 to 60 mil.
It's like, wow.
Okay, so you got no idea, basically.
But keeping a close phone line with Rafa,
he's keeping an eye on the rain.
Let me know what's going on.
Yep.
So I've got him running around with like a cup out there
collecting how many mills actually happening.
He would do that for you too, Rafa.
We would.
We will.
I've got Jono as well.
He's sort of trying to work out
because a lot of the top end of Queensland is clay.
Yep.
So we've got a backup plan in place,
but I'm hoping that we go with plan A
rather than plan B.
Right.
So plan B will be Fraser Island.
Ooh.
You know I've been there.
We sound a lot more excited than I do,
but plan A, well mate, I've been to Fraser Island.
Oh, you have.
Virtually.
It gets shoved in your face on social media.
It does, yeah.
It does, yeah.
Yeah, it does.
It's like, did I have anything else?
And it would be, I actually,
I like would love to go there myself,
but I can't watch anymore of Fraser Island
because I just, you know it all now.
Yeah, yeah.
It's, that's the thing, right?
But anyway, I'm trying to rack my head around
what I would do there if I am.
So Cape York is plan A.
Is it Cape York?
Cape York is, well, the Cape is plan A.
Yeah.
Not necessarily Cape York,
but Cape York may be plan part of the,
the second time I fly back
because I'm going to fly back a few times.
Yep.
So the car's in Brizzy.
I've got.
Wait, which car's in Brizzy?
The Grenadier.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Oh, from, yeah, gotcha.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's still over there.
Yeah, gotcha, gotcha.
Yeah, I presume the tank's still empty
because I sent it over empty.
Right.
That's when all this fuel should start.
So what canopy is on the back of it at the moment?
The half canopy.
The half is on there.
Yeah.
And that will be what you travel in for these trips.
Yep.
And it'll also be what I'll have on
all the way back to Perth.
Right.
Oh, I'm looking forward to this.
I'm looking forward to this.
This is, this is what I would love to just
park life and go and do these, that sort of stuff.
But it makes sense to truck the car now.
What's that with?
Oh yeah, with fuel.
Yeah.
Yeah, with prices.
Yeah.
I'm jealous of that.
So we'll get there.
We'll get there, mate.
Yeah, we'll get there.
We'll get there.
I'm hanging to get back in that car, right?
It's been too long.
Really?
So you're missing the Ineos?
Yeah, I am.
Like, it's yeah, it's just, you know, because
yeah, driving a different cars.
I've got to, yeah, I've got to serve the 76.
Would you say the Ineos is the leader of your fleet now?
It's, would you say that's the choice 1A?
1A.
Choice 1A, doesn't need 1A.
It's the choice 1A as a wagon.
I mean, as a ute.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's your own the ute though.
Exactly.
Yeah, I know, but like, because I have a choice one as a wagon,
a choice one as a ute.
Get yourself a nice one.
Yeah, that's good.
That's good.
Good stuff from you, mate.
Yeah, so hanging for that, I want to, yeah, I've got to reach out to
some of the communities up there as well and see what we can do.
But yeah, it's a little bit of, I think there's been a lot of people
up there filming with some of these communities and not really just taking
and not really giving.
When I say giving, it's like, you know, doing something for them as well.
And one of them, I feel that they've been on the shit side of that a lot.
Right.
So I'm going to reach out to that mob at some stage, but I just want to be prepared.
So, you know, I can make sure that I can do something for them.
Yeah.
Because on a monetary side of things, it's, I'm running a pretty tight budget.
So it might, yeah, we're trying to do something like a canning where we,
you know, which we try and do something everywhere we go because you can't expect
to give something, get something and not give anything back.
It just doesn't work that way.
Yep.
So it's going to be reciprocal.
That's right.
So that's, that's the plan.
And then we'll draw, I'll probably do the Savannah way on the way back to Broome
and then bring it back down to Perth.
Who will be with you across that period?
Possibly Jono, but he might, he might be with Jamie.
Oh yeah, he's doing Jamie.
Yeah, because Jamie's ramping up pretty soon.
Yeah.
But I've got Jono.
Yeah.
Jono's, I booked in Jono for his first leg.
So just hoping that all the weather allows us to do it.
Otherwise, we're playing being Johnny Dahl and Ronnie Dahl back.
Johnny and Ronnie.
Good to have the Dahl boys back.
Yeah.
Good to have the Dahl boys back.
I mean, a blue people will be shipped over there too.
So Chris will be over there as well.
Right.
So yeah.
Nice.
Multi big curve.
Big question.
Maybe question of the day.
Does Chris have either all-terrain or mud-terrain tires on his vehicle yet?
Mate, he's still got all-terrain.
Sorry, the all-terrain, not the skinny, the skinny cheese cutters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look, even if he got mud-terrain, there's still going to be the skinny tires.
Right.
Take my hat off to him for sticking with it.
Mate.
Good on him.
He doesn't have, he's not the one who has to pull himself out though.
That is true.
Convening convening is the rest of the convoy.
Always getting others to pull him off.
I'll pull him out.
Sorry.
Nice.
Slip of the tongue.
Nice.
Slip it all there.
You just remind me of something.
Well, I have to show this on the next podcast,
but I've got, Chris sent me a video of a trooper that got stuck up in the Shark Bay.
He pulled over for lunch.
And you know what?
Can you insert it?
Because I'm on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can you airdrop it?
Yeah, I'll be able to airdrop it.
Beautiful.
So will that work right now?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So the context is, so remember when,
when Chris got bogged up at Shark Bay?
Yeah.
Because he, yeah, didn't pay attention where he was going in.
Yeah.
Ended up severely bogged and called me and,
well, and then I got that story about the other trooper that was, had to be recovered by a boat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that recovery guy, he sent Chris something the other day, just one second.
There we go.
Oh, Jesus.
All right.
You need context for that.
Yeah, that is a mess.
That there is a trippy.
This guy has pulled over simply off the side of the road to have lunch.
I'm not kidding.
That's bad.
He's pulled over for lunch and it's just sunk in.
So run the video and we can go back to the image again.
That is bad.
Do you want audio on the video?
Yeah.
Apologies for any swearing.
There shouldn't be any.
What are you doing in there, mate?
He's going to recover you.
Oh, Jesus.
Oh, that's quick said.
It's terrible, isn't it?
I didn't, I didn't bring my fucking shower.
We're not out of the woods yet.
Whoa.
Rikies.
So he's wild.
So he's actually had to go back a few times
because he kept snapping winch ropes.
Yeah.
So that's obviously all that mud behind him
is just being pushed up from being dragged in.
So he's got the recovery truck behind there
and it's now got winch cables on it.
But you see what he's forced to pull them through.
Yeah.
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It's nuts.
And that's simply just pulling over.
That Sharkbar area.
Yeah.
So he just pulled over on the side of the road.
He just pulled over on the side of the road.
Bit of me at Whiteman Park.
Yeah.
Except for he, this guy's got an excuse.
This guy, he's a little bit less bogged than you were.
Just a little bit.
That's mental.
I haven't seen many, I haven't seen many like that.
No, that's a massive angle.
Only once have I ever been in a similar situation.
I parked slightly off the road in Mundaring.
It had been chucking that rain all through, I think June, maybe May.
And the car just sank in.
Yeah.
But walking on the ground is like doing this, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's pretty bad.
In this situation, is he going to have to pull out forwards?
Or is it no, you can't get around that way.
So he's just going to have to pull over,
pull him out through that.
Just have to keep pulling him back.
But the problem is the longer the car sits there,
the more the ground gets disturbed.
It'll be like a salt lake situation where the longer you spend around it,
you're compacting the mud.
You're squishing the liquid out, which then rises.
And then when you get off the mud,
that piece of mud is now sucking water from below again.
So every time it happens, more moisture gets pulled off from the bottom.
Yeah.
And that's why it ends up like that.
Okay.
Maybe we describe this what's happening for people who are listening.
Not true.
But this is a troopy.
Yeah.
It's a troopy and it looks like a beach whale at the moment on a muddy section.
So it looks fairly solid, the ground.
But clearly it's not because that troopy is really sunk in.
It's a troopy with all the gear.
Yeah.
They look like full-time travellers that curtains around the hole back.
Rift conversion.
Rift conversion.
There's a lot of weight on the car, which there would be.
Travelling around.
It's got the MaxRax table.
It's got everything on it.
And it has just sunk in on the right-hand side.
Yeah.
That rear right and that front right are just deep, deep in there.
The left is out.
The back left tire's up out of the ground.
The back is the bottom of his driver's side window to the mud.
Pretty close actually.
I think it's like level.
Yeah, nearly.
Oh, yeah, about the mirror is almost touching the ground.
Yeah.
It's a scary angle.
Yeah, it would be a scary angle.
Yeah, it's not fun.
I don't know.
Hopefully it's not a lot of salt and shit and that stuff there.
But who knows.
But yeah, he's just pulled over to the side of the road.
He used the term road, not track.
So yeah, it doesn't mean it's not a gravel road.
It doesn't mean it's not a gravel road.
But yeah, there you go.
That is wild.
That is massively effective.
And that's like a genuine surprise, right?
You're pulling over for lunch.
Yeah.
And you just start sinking.
So they just started sinking.
Well, I reckon that must have sunk right in.
Because you see, where one of the recovery guys was in the hole,
you could see how deep that was.
Hopefully no damage to the troop.
You under there.
I think we'll mud out of there for a while, I reckon.
Yeah.
As long as he washes it out pretty quick after, it would be like a long term thing.
But that amount of pressure as well, it could maybe push some things out of a line.
That's pretty crazy.
Yeah, it's wild.
If we were standing in that, that would come up to our hips even higher.
It doesn't look at all.
You can see how they've come unstuck too.
Like look just ahead.
We're like the top of that.
The fellow filming's shadow is like,
there's no way that that looks like you're going to get bogged in there.
And what we're looking at there, it's not just a wheel rut.
If that guy wasn't in there, we would just presume that's a wheel rut.
That's actually the tyre, the rear bar, the side of the car that's dragging through that.
That's a big cavity.
Gleaf spring, everything.
You hate being stuck in mud, hey.
It just ruins your car.
Hate, you just hate doing it.
Imagine if the whole car ended up in that though.
Yeah, both sides.
Your wheels would just be floating.
Underbody just keep you up.
Yeah, you actually wouldn't have gone too far in.
I wonder if that Geely AI car you talked about last week could just be like,
oh no, sorry, mate.
Don't go in there.
It's a bit muddy.
The Geely would notice and that would turn into a boat.
Yeah, turn into a boat.
Oh, a jet and fly away.
Helicopter, takeoff.
Yeah, there might be a lot of suction in the mud though.
Not sure the helicopter can lift up the extra four times.
Well, the good thing about the Geely is that it's got all of those.
It would just pick the best one.
And it'll keep you calm while stealing.
And it will play your kids TV shows.
Can I leave the chassis behind and fly off?
I think with the Geely you can do whatever you want or whatever it was.
You've got to have a look at the Geely, mate.
You've got to have a look at the Geely.
It sounds like a transformer.
What was it, the Geely?
Battlefield 700.
It's Battlefield 700.
Battleship 700, I think.
It's Battlefield 700 it was.
That's what it was, wasn't it?
Something like that.
We're not making that up, by the way, Ronnie.
That's the actual name.
It's a new AI generated, it's not AI generated.
It's got an AI full-wheel drive system.
It's called the Geely Battleship 700.
Basically what you need, how much?
Whether you need hybrid power, petrol power.
What wheel needs what?
Mate.
It's crazy.
What mode you might be in, whether it's snow, mud, sand, picks it for you.
That just, yeah.
That sounds like a disaster way to happen.
Because it's too hard to use your hands.
You can see what terrain you're in.
It's got the crab wall.
If I don't know if I'm in sand or snow, I can't tell.
Come on.
It can tell, mate, the Geely.
I'm glad that can, because I can't.
Should we move on?
Yeah.
Around the cockpit.
Let's go.
There's a bit of air.
Is the human race just going to be like
fat people drooling inside a car with no brains?
It's happening already.
The car's just driving them around.
It's happening already.
You've seen Wally?
I haven't seen that, actually.
The movie?
Oh, yes, I have.
So, yeah, a lot like that.
One of the worst movies I've ever seen, I think.
Just so bad.
Didn't expect you to say that.
Hated it.
All right, this one from 911 Chronology.
Where do cars like the Subaru Outback fit into the community?
It's the car I have, as we figure for city driving,
it's more efficient and easier.
It's good for family life and getting loads of crap in the boot.
And good for camping, either solo set up or with the family.
It has gotten us pretty much everywhere we want to go,
and you can do some OK tracks.
We don't want to do any of the mental rock climbing drives
more the high country near Bright or good long trips
like Uluru via Flinders Ranges or up the Kidman
to Lightning Ridge and the like.
Good touring with OK capacity to, say,
explore the Gundabook National Park
on pretty sludgy and slippy roads.
So where do cars like the Subaru Outback fit?
Sounds like it fits in the Outback.
It sounds like this person's been pretty much a lot of places
that most people probably haven't been.
I reckon the Subaru Outback, I reckon any car,
as long as you've got all-wheel drive at least,
and you're not seeking like this person is saying,
not seeking rocks and gnarly hill climbs and gnarly tracks,
it's all down to the driver's skill, really.
And if you're comfortable with the car,
and if you're comfortable,
if you've got driver's skill with that car,
obviously you're going to be comfortable with the car.
So I reckon it's fine.
Can you put any like, I'm assuming you can obviously
put a set of tyres on a Subaru Outback.
You can't go too big.
You can't go too big.
You could get some decent tread.
Yeah, I don't know.
Can you lift a Subaru Outback?
Yeah, I was going to say,
do you remember in the early days of this podcast
when I brought the photo of the Toyota Corolla
that had been lifted with bigger tyres on it?
If you can do it to that,
surely you can do it to an Outback.
It's just whether you would do it to it or not.
Is it worth the cost of doing that
if you're fine getting where you need to go with what you've got?
Yeah, it's all about the implication of what does it do to the car?
Is it, how much is it changing the behaviour of the car?
Because you can put big tyres on any car.
It looks cool, but it's probably going to drive worse
if you go too big at some point.
So some cars, some cars look good with 35s,
but drive better on 33s.
But in some, and some cars can tolerate both,
but you've got to pick the right size for the right situation.
But with a Subaru Outback,
I would say you could probably only really push it one
or two sizes bigger, maybe.
Yeah, so you definitely, there are ones out there.
I'm not sure whether these are vehicles in Australia or overseas,
but you can lift and you can obviously add some decent tyres to these.
So that...
All you'd need is all-terrain tyres.
Yeah, and I'm not sure that...
You're not getting muddies.
Um, not my own chronology has done that, but...
Yeah.
There's the option too.
But I think if...
I think there's a massive place for them.
Yeah, where do they fit?
If it works for you, then it fits right amongst all the other vehicles
that will take you to the same places.
Like, if it works for you and your family...
Yeah, I don't think our channel here probably promotes
that sort of style of four-wheel driving and touring and camping enough.
I think it only does,
doesn't because we don't drive a car like that.
Yeah, yeah, so it's not our normal.
But Alex, who...
Yeah, he does a lot of editing for me from in...
You know, he used to be here's the camp.
I want to say the thing now because I'll get it wrong.
Sorry, it's the camp gear review guy.
Yeah.
He used to have a Nissan Patrol, but he travels around...
Camping gear guide on YouTube.
That's the one.
But he has a Subaru and he has travelled in a Subaru before.
There is a trip floating around on YouTube where he...
There's a Nissan Patrol that's on big type 35s and it's a trayback.
And there are...
There's Torbs with his 79, my 79 and Wayne's 79.
And then his Subaru.
It handled like a surfboard through some of the stuff we drove through.
He had bigger tyres on it.
But hey, it did all the same shit that we did.
And he had just as much fun as we did.
In fact, we enjoyed watching him drive that thing.
Yeah, yeah.
And he drove up some gnarly stuff too.
Look, there was one section we needed to get him across the crevasse with some max tracks,
but he made it work.
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely limitations to it,
but I think there's definitely a place for the community for it for sure.
You just got to like...
I honestly think you're better off starting in something like that.
If you get a big Land Cruiser or a big Patrol,
you tend to load as much gear in as it can.
And now you've set the bar off the gear you're bringing.
Yeah, that's what I think you know you do.
So if you go...
If you're downgrading in capacity size or where you can pack in,
not downgrading on the car, but you're downgrading on the capacity...
Downsizing.
Then all this...
Yeah, downsizing.
That's the better way.
You're like, ah, I don't like this.
There's not enough room.
It doesn't have the power.
That's because you put too much shit in it.
Yeah.
Yep.
No, I like it.
I agree.
I think there's...
I love those cars.
Yeah, they're cool.
I think they're elite.
You see them all the time on the beach.
Surf spots and all that kind of stuff.
Like you throw a board in there.
You throw your bags in.
Like, yeah, you're laughing.
I think they're elite.
I think they're so good.
So plenty of space for them.
Next one, your mama titties.
I'm a bit disgusted that you beat a lot of shit out.
Would love to have known what you said.
Speaking of tattoos.
And I think you'll like this one a lot, Duggo.
I have Lipton written on my nutsack.
One Christmas night drunk and painful.
That's perfect.
So at least you know a nutsack tattoo can be done.
Yeah, yeah.
Lipton.
Lipton.
They're getting a Lipton teabag.
That is good, isn't it?
That is huge, right?
Good.
Yeah, who is this?
This is set up.
No, I know this is a genuine comment
on our last video that we did with Joey.
Can you please send in a photo?
No.
Why?
I don't want to see that.
It's fine.
I don't want to fucking look at these photos.
What, you've seen a nutsack before?
So imagine seeing a nutsack with Lipton written on it.
I just want to see what this person looks like in general.
You can send us a face photo.
And then it...
And then we'll approve you for a nut pick.
No, I just want to see if what I'm picturing matches the...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Actually, you know what?
This is how we'll do it.
You message us in on Instagram with a face photo
and then I'll send that to Duggo.
And if he approves, I'll send you Duggo's phone number
and you can text him your nutsack.
That's what we'll do.
I'm not giving you a photo back, though.
That's...
Come on, man.
It'd be rude not to.
So it's a disgust that you beeped a lot of shitty ads, is that?
So Bo's episode.
A few of the questions from Newsy.
Oh, did you beep?
I haven't watched it back.
That's funny.
By the way, Jacob Newton.
Jacob Newton.
Newton, yeah.
Spinifex Pigeon.
Our videographer on the trip, Jacob Newton.
Well, is he...?
Yeah.
Is Jacob's last name Newton?
Isn't it?
No, no, no.
What is it?
Sholton.
Ah!
Disregard, boys.
Disregard.
I've had a mare on that one.
Did you think there was going to be a hiccup?
I did. I thought there were both of them.
I was like, oh, no way.
What the hell?
Could have got the boys together.
I was trying to decipher why you said Newton is like a...
Am I missing a joke here?
I was thinking too deep, mate.
No, I was thinking too deep, mate.
Jacob.
He used to be in my phone as Jacob Reels.
Jacob Reels.
I've got to be in my phone as the Spinifex pigeon.
Tim Gardner.
Tim Gardner.
One of our patrons.
You want to do this one?
I can do this.
Go on.
Hi, guys.
I mentioned a month or so ago
that I had gone from a V879 single cab
to a new super duty for bush work
in heavy plant and fire management.
Well, just thought I'd give you an update,
7,000 kilometers in,
and the super duty is absolutely fantastic.
I've just spent a week off grid
working in a remote area of the Snowys,
full of fuels, spares, tools, camping gear,
chainsaws and firefighting equipment.
The super duty feels very planted in steep country
and handles the load exceptionally well.
It's weighing in at about 4.1 tons,
so I still have a bit up my sleeve.
The 10 speed transmission needs to be
in manual mode in the steeper terrain
as it hunts around if you leave it in auto.
Engine braking is great in low.
The standard 130 litre fuel tank
is a bonus in this sort of remote work.
And well done for the content over the last few months
with the desert trips,
very different to what we deal with over here,
but hope to do the canning one day,
keep up the great work.
Good intel on the super duty.
Probably Tim's probably using it.
Do you say how many Ks?
7,000 Ks in the super duty.
Or is this it?
Couple images here.
Nice.
Yep, throw them up on screen.
Yep, wicked.
That looks tough.
They look big, don't they?
They look tough.
That looks angry.
Yeah, it does.
Tim, you're Tim C.B. on our Patreon commenting for you.
I remember when he bought the super duty
and I was very curious to see how we thought it would go.
And I'm glad that it's worked for him well.
Probably my first real look at someone,
geez, that's nice.
Look at that.
Not only the car, look at the landscapes.
Yeah, single cab,
bullbar, nice tray.
It's doing what it's been built to do though,
the super duty with this sort of work.
Like, you know, fire management,
big, heavy plant in the back.
You get to drive some pretty cool trails,
I'd say, like fire trails.
Unbelievable, yeah.
That is, is that safe?
I know it's blurred.
Is that safe?
Cosy Oscoe National Park?
Maybe not.
No, I don't think Cosy, Cosy Koshuk?
I have no idea.
Can't read it.
So, interesting about the 10 speed
auto looking hunting for gears.
So, that is probably the one benefit
of a manual four-wheel drive.
Obviously, all these autos have your manual
gear selection too.
Yeah.
And interesting that that.
They do, but it's manual to a point.
It's, yeah.
Once you slow down, it'll change down, you know?
Yep.
That is good intel though on the super duty, I reckon.
Yeah.
That's probably our first drive into something that's...
Keep updating us,
because we're going to get into super duty soon.
We've got a couple lined up,
so that'll be really cool.
Next one, I'm just going to jump in here
because this one's not on,
I haven't put it in the round sheet,
but I really hope I say this right.
Magne Evinrud from Norway.
Magne?
Yeah.
There you go.
Magne.
He sent in...
So, he said,
hello, I heard you guys talking about stickers
regarding greetings with other four by fours.
Here's a sticker from the Norwegian Land Rover Club.
And he sent through this sticker.
And I think it's a leet.
I'll read it out.
It says ownership of any Land Rover vehicle
requires driver to observe mandatory
saluting policy.
Wave and smile to all meeting Land Rovers.
Use your right hand
for a well visible salutation
while maintaining a broad smile
in the general direction of the meeting vehicle.
For further instructions,
read any well-established Land Rover magazine
or www.nirk.no.
And then you've got
three little animations,
20 to 60 meters away,
two cars coming to each other.
And then it's got the correct way to do it.
One driver with his left hand on the wheel,
right hand up.
And then the wrong way to do it,
big X over it with two hands on the wheel,
driver looking forward, not smiling at all.
That's good.
Big smile, very important.
So I thought this was a leet.
That makes me want to drive a Land Rover in Norway.
Yeah, I think we probably do something like this
for just four-wheel drives.
It's not specific to Land Rovers
or 70 series or patrols or whatever,
but just a four-wheel driving one.
And we can throw that around.
I think that's a leet.
It's really, really good.
Magna feels about what his standpoint is
on the Grenadier, driving a Land Rover.
Yeah.
What does he think?
Is it, is it blasphemous?
Maybe.
I feel like if he's rolling around,
if Magna's rolling around with that sticker,
it would be blasphemous to be in an EOS Grenadier
or even to dimension it.
Do you reckon he has another sticker
that, you know, does the bird
if he's a different car?
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, maybe that's the only thing.
That's a very detailed sticker.
It is.
I wonder how big that is.
I like how, how like upset,
like it makes you, it makes, you know,
the upset emoji guy.
Yeah.
Passion.
There's passion in the Land Rover community in Norway, obviously.
So you wave, you're happy.
Yeah.
This one's from Pete Hayboys.
I was listening to the potty
and this is a nice little play on
from where we just were.
I was listening to the potty
about how people don't wave anymore.
One of the share of these signs
I've seen in the Shire of Lake Grace
in Southwest W.
And thought I'd share with you,
they are all within the Shire,
especially around Wave Rock.
I'm a truckie and head down that way
with a lot of work,
with work a lot
and lots of waivers on the road.
They're still out there.
Keep up the great work.
Cheers, Pete.
I'm assuming, Jaden, you've got that.
Getting the photos at the moment.
Nice.
Thanks, mate.
Very familiar with those signs.
You are?
Yeah.
They're very, they're very good.
I can't, I don't know if I've seen them.
But I'm sure I have.
I've driven through there quite a bit.
It does, like when you see it,
it, it makes you wave.
Coming.
I'm doing work, boys.
I'm doing work.
Better love it.
They're cool.
I have seen this before.
These are,
these are sweet.
It's just a, like an entry sign, isn't it?
Yeah, it's, you pass a few on the way.
Good country around there.
There's a lot of salt lakes.
It's very, like you get through these hills
and then it just goes all flat for a bit.
I think a lot of people get...
Wave zone.
Wicked drone shots on there.
Yeah, I have, that is familiar.
The only thing I don't like about it
is that it says wave zone everywhere is a wave zone.
Do you reckon it's because it's also wave rock?
It's still a fair distance from there though,
but it must be in the shire.
Yeah.
Wow.
You've wrinkled my brain there.
Wave rock, wave zone.
Wave zone, wave rock.
Yeah.
I think it's definitely that.
It's got a hand on the top gun like this.
Yeah.
You know what, now that you say that,
it makes a lot of sense.
But wave rock is within the shire, potentially.
I'm picturing like piping, piping hot shirts now.
Piping hot.
Or hot-tuna.
Oh yeah.
You would hope that everyone within that shire is doing that then.
You would hope so.
If you were abiding by the road signs,
then you should be.
But yeah, you do increase your wave as you go through,
but sometimes I don't feel like they're waving back.
But I think because you see the sign,
it prompts you to wave.
Yeah.
We gave a few good waves in the grounded
highlights last week, didn't we?
Yeah, we actually had a few.
That was really nice.
I think we just made, we went overs a little bit.
But yeah, the wave, the wave, we cannot let the wave die.
The wave must stay.
And obviously, the shire of late grace are doing their bit.
So, good on them.
And we've got another one here, Jayden.
Yeah.
Another one that I just forgot to put in.
Last one, you can take this, mate.
All right.
That's from Soph.
Hey, guys.
Questions for, question for around the fire pit.
I have a work trip planned to Perth and we'll be taking an
additional five days to explore around.
I've hired a Jimny, but it's not allowed to go off-road
and I have 1,800 kilometres of range.
What do you suggest I go and see and do?
Looking around maybe Margaret River, Deontra Castro,
Denmark, Albany sort of thing,
but I figure since you guys live over there,
you'll be able to give me the best advice.
If the weather is bad down south,
I'd probably head up towards Durian Bay.
So, I would love some wreckies around there as well,
if possible.
Thanks so much.
Love the pod.
When is he going up?
Soph.
She is coming over.
Sorry.
Doesn't say.
Okay.
Doesn't say, but they're coming over.
I did write back with a couple recommendations.
I said Denmark, obviously unreal, easy to get to.
Don't need to.
As soon as there's no off-road,
I thought that area is probably best suited.
Yeah.
Lot to explore without having to go.
What you consider off-road though?
Where do you draw the line when it comes off-road?
Oh, like I'm thinking gravel tracks fine.
Yeah.
Yeah, like gravel track, dirt track fine.
I'm sort of thinking like beach, no.
Beach driving, no.
There's plenty of beaches that she'll be able to get to
in the southern region.
What places did you?
I said you could go from Perth to Baselton,
and then from Baselton,
you could go across to Denmark
through Nannar, Pemberton, Walpole.
Get to Denmark at the end,
and then from Denmark,
you can even go to Albany from there
and then go back up the inland way to Perth.
I think for 1800 Ks.
Five days though.
Five days.
Yeah, it's quick.
You'd be able to do all of that in five days.
They're all pretty close together.
That's a good option to keep moving.
The place is worth hitting as well.
Not on...
You don't have to do any forward driving
to get to them.
No, no.
They're all on the road.
Beaches along the way, which is pretty sick.
And then you can stop on...
I'm big on the...
I'd even skip Baselton.
Yeah, I would too.
But it's a good place to stop
and maybe resupply before you.
Yeah.
The only reason I said Baselton,
like you got the jetty,
you got shelter down there,
like there's a few cool little spots.
Yeah, there's plenty of offer in that area.
I just reckon that...
And then you've got like yelling up
down below as well that you can go to.
Yeah, that...
Yelling up Dunsbrough,
like there's nice beaches down there.
I think...
Doug, are you thinking more about like...
I'm just thinking if you come into W-way.
...get more forests.
I'm thinking like five days,
if you want to see...
Because I don't think many people
tick off that Pemberton Warpole...
Bailing up.
...mange them up, nan up.
Bailing like all that area through there
that is just magic.
I think a lot of people don't realise
we have these forests down there.
Yeah, I don't think so either.
Like there's a...
There's a lot of state forests down there.
They're gorgeous.
The Cary Valley.
The 75-metre tall...
Yeah.
Like fire tree,
what's it called?
The...
Baselton 10-year-old tree.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was 65 metres or 70 metres.
Yeah.
Like that'd be cool.
To go and climb.
Like I haven't even done that.
I've done that.
I've been through that area.
You've done it?
Yeah.
It's pretty dodgy.
It's pretty dodgy.
Yeah, it's amazing.
Dodgy?
Yeah, it's just metal spikes in the tree.
It's just metal spikes in the tree.
Yeah.
This is the Rio bar,
sticking out of tree.
It literally is, yeah.
But if I...
Not disagreeing with that,
if it was my five days...
Go.
I wouldn't head north
if I was so...
I just think that everything is
more stretched out up north.
So you'd probably get less time to actually
probably sit and enjoy a little bit.
Yeah, it's a bit further away.
I'd punch straight down to Denmark,
Albany.
Have a look around there.
Get your beach fix.
And then I'd meander on back through...
Through the forests.
Yep.
Yeah, even if it's rainy,
it's still beautiful down there.
Gorgeous.
It's almost better.
Yeah.
I would have thought.
I'd stitch Caves Road on it too.
Ditch?
No, I'd just stitch it on.
Oh, right.
Caves Road.
Yeah, Caves Road.
Yeah, bottom of Caves Road.
Yeah, you can go from Lighthouse
to Lighthouse, which is pretty cool.
If you've got enough time, yeah.
Then you can go through the middle.
You're going to be on the move a bit though,
I reckon, within that five days.
Yeah, it just depends on when she comes.
Like, if it's winter, it'll be obviously
very wet and stuff,
which doesn't take away from the beauty of it.
I think it adds to it.
I think so too.
Where's she coming from again?
It's just depends.
Not sure.
But it just depends on when you...
Not sure.
Yeah.
It depends on if you like that kind of stuff or not.
Yeah.
If you're okay with a bit of wet.
Deontricasto, you're going to probably struggle
to see a bit without going off road.
Deontricasto, you need to go off road for,
I think, a fair bit of sand and stuff.
Obviously, you can like take those dirt tracks in
to get to some cabin spots,
but you just don't get...
You don't get to the beach down there without off-roading.
Yep.
I think that's good advice from Jordan.
That was a good show.
Done well there, boys.
Well done.
That's us.
That's us.
Well done.
Actually, sorry.
It's not.
We've got one voice message.
Oh, yeah, I know.
And then that's us.
Okay.
G'day, like, Tantina here,
getting out podcast Victoria here,
loving the show.
What is your favorite second-hand purchase
you found on Marketplace Gumtree
that you have installed in your vehicle
or looking for your current vehicle?
I think we've done this, haven't we?
Yeah.
Yeah, we've done this.
Did you and I do it or did Ronnie do it?
I think we've done this.
You all did it.
I'm going to take a moment.
I'll reflect on this.
You're going to have to do that.
I'll review some processes.
Cut that.
And yeah, I'll come back next week better.
I'll come back next week better.
None of us have ever had a second-hand purchase.
That's what we answered last time.
Yeah, yeah.
It's all right.
You're a busy man.
No, I'm going to reflect on this.
I'll come back.
I'll be better next week.
I'm sorry, boys.
Just wrap it up.
All right, wait.
Just wrap it up.
Well, that's the four wheel drive podcast.
Sorry.
Drippin' power by type.
I'm a little bit rattled with that because, yeah.
Anyway, we're back to the showtime.
I know, I know.
Because I'm a little bit rattled by our feeler's
leader over there who's just had a massive maire.
But anyway, the four wheel drive podcast.
Power by type.
I'm obviously recording in the backchats studio.
Thanks to Grounded.
Thank you, type.
Our tough dog.
Thank you very much.
And yeah, get over to the socials.
Get online and buy one of those t-shirts
at the four wheel drive podcast.
Dotcom.au.
And we'll catch up with you next week.
Good to catch up again, Ronnie.
Jayden, be better.
Okay, see ya, boys.
See you later, alligator.
Be way better.
I will.
I will try.
Sleep up a year, though.
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About this episode
Fuel prices and supply anxiety take center stage after a major fire at Viva Energy’s Geelong refinery, with hosts debating how much it could affect petrol vs diesel and calling out perceived profiteering. The conversation then shifts to the growing 4WD lineup and whether the “golden age” of affordable Land Cruisers is gone, plus how too many choices can overwhelm buyers. Ronnie’s Tough Dog tip argues for enjoying what you already have instead of chasing mods. The show also covers new Chinese SUV competition, a wild Shark Bay Troopy bogging story, and community “wave” etiquette.
Have we passed the golden age of 4WDing? With new 4WDs becoming increasingly expensive, is a quality rig now out of reach for the average Australian? Ronny and Duggo also dig into the news that one of Australia's only two fuel refineries was partly destroyed by fire last night.
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