The Suzuki Vitara is a small SUV that can handle more than just smooth roads. The podcast mentions an older two-door soft-top version that the speaker used for rough driving. That’s why it’s brought up—because it was used for off-road-style fun.
The Toyota Prado is a 4WD SUV built for driving off-road. In this segment, it sounds like the car was used for a trip where it shouldn’t have been pushed, and something important broke.
“Constant four-wheel drive” means the car is sending power to all four wheels all the time. It helps with traction, but if parts are damaged or the route is too rough, things can still break.
A shock absorber is the part that helps your suspension stay controlled over bumps. If it breaks, the car can bounce or feel unstable, and it can make driving much less safe.
An oil leak means engine oil is escaping from seals, gaskets, or other components. Depending on where it’s coming from, it can range from a relatively straightforward fix to a serious issue that risks low oil pressure and engine damage.
“Engine out” means the mechanic has to take the engine out of the car to fix something. It usually means the repair is bigger and more expensive than a simple fix.
Engine mounts hold the engine in place and help reduce vibration. If they break, the engine can move around more than it should, which can lead to bigger problems.
A “120 series Prado” is a Toyota off-road SUV generation that a lot of people use for road trips and rougher driving. The speaker liked how it drove, but they’re saying their own particular one had problems.
A locker is a device that helps both wheels on an axle turn together. If one wheel starts spinning in mud or rocks, the locker helps the other wheel keep moving. They’re saying you only need it for certain tricky parts of the trail.
Scraping the chassis means the bottom of the car hit the ground. That can happen when the trail has steep dips or bumps. It can damage the underside, so it’s a sign the obstacle was really tough.
Rock stacking means putting rocks under the tires to help the car get grip and move. It can give the wheels something firmer to roll over. They tried it as one of the ways to get unstuck.
Traction is how well the tires grip the ground. If you don’t have traction, the wheels spin and the car won’t move. They’re talking about trying to get the back tires to grip so they can get unstuck.
A bull bar is a heavy-duty front guard on a 4x4. It helps protect the front of the vehicle, but it can get in the way when you’re setting up recovery gear.
Warning lights are dashboard indicators that alert the driver to faults or system problems. When a vehicle is flooded or electrical components get wet, multiple warning lights can illuminate at once because sensors and control modules detect abnormal conditions.
Snatch straps are stretchy straps used to tow or pull a stuck car. Another vehicle pulls them, and the stretch helps yank the stuck vehicle free—done carefully and safely.
A battery has two main connection points: positive (+) and negative (-). The positive terminal is the one that feeds power to the car’s electrical system, so problems there can affect lots of things at once.
A fuse box is where the car keeps safety devices for the wiring. Each fuse protects a different electrical system, so if one fuse is bad, that part of the car won’t work.
Diesel engines don’t use spark plugs to ignite fuel, but they still usually need the battery to start and run the electronics. So the idea that a diesel can run without a battery is only true in limited, older situations.
A snorkel is a raised air intake for off-roading. It lets the engine pull air from higher up, so you can drive through deeper water without water getting into the intake.
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blade fuse
A blade fuse is a typical car fuse you can pull out and replace. In this case, the fuse is built into the battery terminal, so you can’t just replace the fuse element—you have to fix/replace the whole part.
A fuel filter is like a strainer for your fuel. It helps stop dirt and other junk from getting to the engine. Here, they’re saying water was getting into that filter area, so they had to remove it repeatedly.
A water separator is a part in the fuel system that catches water before it gets to the engine. Water in fuel can cause the engine to run badly or not start. It usually lets you drain out the collected water.
Hydro lock means water got into the engine where it normally only has air and fuel. Because water doesn’t compress like air, the engine can’t move the pistons properly and can cause serious damage. It’s one of the big fears after driving through water.
A wet vac is a vacuum that can suck up water, not just dust. After the car got flooded, they used it to remove water from the carpet so it could dry out and not smell or grow mold.
Carpet can soak up water and hold onto it for a long time. Even if it looks dry, the padding underneath can still be wet. That can lead to bad smells or mold if you don’t dry it out properly.
The insulation under the carpet can act like a sponge and keep water inside. So even after you think it’s dried, it may still be wet underneath. That’s why they kept pulling water out and letting it dry again.
A canvas canopy is a fabric cover you put over the back of a vehicle to help keep gear protected from weather. It’s common on camping setups because it’s practical and can be customized.
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WAU1
“WAU1” here is probably a label or model code for the exact canopy setup being discussed. It’s not a general car term—more like a product/config name.
Factory service manuals (often found online) are detailed documents that show wiring diagrams, component locations, and step-by-step repair procedures. Corey mentions using them as a learning tool for his 60 Series because he doesn’t know much yet.
A canopy camper is a camping add-on that sits on top of a ute. It turns the truck into a place to sleep and store gear without needing a full vehicle conversion.
“Poor man’s troopy” is a joking way to say “this setup gives you the same camping vibe as a Troopy,” but cheaper. They’re comparing their ute camper to a well-known Toyota camping rig.
Alibaba is a website where you can buy products from suppliers, including overseas. They’re using it to order the camper setup and have it shipped to them.
An induction cooktop cooks by using magnet heat in the pan, not a flame. It’s efficient and heats up fast, which can be handy when you’re cooking in a camper setup.
“Lap of Australia” means a big, long road trip around Australia. They’re saying this setup is meant for that kind of extended travel, not just short weekends.
Rivnuts are a type of fastener that gives you a threaded hole in sheet metal. They’re useful for camper builds because you can bolt things together tightly.
A reinforced frame is extra strengthening built into the structure. The host is saying the canopy alone isn’t stiff enough, so they add support so the tent mount is solid.
Porsche is being used as a reference point for design—specifically how the brand’s styling can be visually compelling even to someone who doesn’t usually like supercars. In this segment, it’s part of the argument that the Toyota Land Cruiser 60/80 series have standout looks.
The center console is the panel between the front seats. It often includes the shifter and storage, and in this case they’re modifying it because it doesn’t let you comfortably rest your arm.
3D modeling means making a digital 3D version of a part on a computer. Builders use it to design custom pieces that will fit correctly before they print or build them.
Swivel hubs are parts in the front axle that let the wheels turn. If they’re worn, the steering can feel loose or noisy, so builders often replace or rebuild them.
Wheel bearings are small parts that help your wheels rotate smoothly. If they wear out, you can get noise or rough steering, so people replace them during a build.
A dual battery system means you have two batteries—one for starting and one for accessories. It helps you run camping gear without risking the car won’t start.
Lithium batteries are a type of car battery that can be lighter and let you use more of the battery before it’s “empty.” People like them for camping power setups.
“Patina” means the worn-in, aged look a vehicle gets over time. Here, they’re saying the paint wear might be considered “patina,” but the host also suggests it’s actually getting worse rather than being a planned style.
A “farm bar” is a protective bar on the front of a 4WD. It’s there to help protect the vehicle if you hit something on the road, like an animal, and the host says theirs is temporary while they’re planning the next steps.
Panel work is the metal-and-body repair on a car—fixing dents, replacing sections, and getting the surface ready for paint. Good panel work also helps prevent rust from coming back.
A blind spot is a part of the road around your car that you can’t see from the driver’s seat. Better window design can reduce blind spots and make driving feel safer and easier.
A “turbo” is a device that helps the engine make more power. It uses the car’s exhaust to spin a fan that pushes extra air into the engine so it can burn more fuel.
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12 HT
“12 HT” is an engine code/name. Here it’s being used to talk about a turbo engine and how it feels with different transmission types.
“White labelled” means selling a product made by another company under your own brand name with minimal changes. In automotive accessory terms, it’s common for brands to rebrand existing designs rather than engineer and manufacture their own.
“Packed” is the name of the brand for the bags being discussed. The host says they started it so they could control the product and build an audience around it.
Cape York is a remote part of Australia where people go on big 4WD road trips. It’s known for rough tracks and river crossings, so your vehicle needs to handle water and uneven ground.
A river crossing in 4WD travel is when you drive through water that can be deep enough to reach the front of the vehicle. It’s a key risk point because water can affect traction, enter components, and cause the vehicle to stall or get damaged if you misjudge depth and flow.
A “two inch lift” means the suspension is raised so the car sits higher. That extra height helps the vehicle clear rocks and helps with deeper water crossings.
The grill is the front part with openings where air goes through. If water reaches that area, it usually means the crossing is deep enough to start causing problems.
The bonnet is the front hood of the car. When people say water is “going over the bonnet,” they mean it’s getting deep enough to reach very high on the vehicle, which can be dangerous.
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76 or a 79
“76 or 79” refers to two versions of the Toyota Land Cruiser that are common for outback trips. They’re being used here to say those models handle water crossings better than the earlier setup.
Alice South is the area/route south of Alice Springs in Australia. It’s a remote drive where the scenery can be amazing, but the road can still be a bit sketchy.
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Fink
“Fink” is shorthand for the Finke Desert Race area/event in Australia, which is known for off-road desert racing and filming lots of action. The mention suggests the creators they follow are often at that kind of desert motorsport scene.
A fridge slide is a tray or platform that lets your fridge slide out so you can reach it easily. It’s designed to be secure while driving, but still convenient when you stop.
An inverter is a device that changes power from your battery so you can use electronics that normally plug into the wall. It’s a key part of making a camping power system more flexible.
Tread is the pattern on the tire that touches the ground. A tire’s tread design changes grip and can also affect how noisy or bumpy it feels, especially at higher speeds.
“Muddies” usually means mud-terrain tires. They’re made to bite into soft ground like mud or clay and to clear mud out of the tread so you don’t lose traction.
All-terrain tires are a tire type made to handle both normal roads and dirt/sand. They have tread that grips better off-road, but they can be louder or feel a bit different on the highway.
The Ford Ranger is a pickup truck that can be used for normal driving and also for rougher roads. People talk about it because it’s comfortable to drive, but it can still handle off-road situations. That mix is usually what makes it a common choice for 4WD fans.
The transmission tunnel is the raised section in the floor where the drivetrain components sit. People add accessories there because it’s a natural space for extra storage.
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a tough 4x4 that people often modify for off-road trips. Here, it’s mentioned as the type of vehicle the speaker is designing something for.
Shark Bay is a place in Western Australia with beaches and great fishing. The host talks about it as a fun spot because the sand is soft and the fishing can be really good.
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Dirk Hartle
Dirk Hartog is a remote island off Western Australia. The speaker describes going there for fishing and camping, including a solo trip.
The Jeep Wrangler is a 4-wheel-drive vehicle made for off-road driving. It’s built to handle rough trails and is often chosen by people who want a vehicle that can go off the beaten path. In the conversation, it’s mentioned as a particular Wrangler that was sent for review or discussion.
“Slicks” are special race tires with little to no tread. They grip really well on dry track surfaces, but they’re not great for wet roads.
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green smoke
“Green smoke” typically points to exhaust smoke from combustion issues or additives, often seen when a car is being pushed hard (like during drifting) or when there’s an intentional/observed smoke effect. The color can be a clue to what’s burning or being introduced.
Jamie Vogler is another person mentioned in the chat. The clip doesn’t explain much about who they are, just that the name comes up.
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like he did mention last week, but we'll see how we go forward to our podcast.com.au if you
want to go and get any of that. Tie up our terrain timer, get around our sponsors real quick.
We'll have to get a little bit of a tip from our guest who's coming potentially.
And just the tip. But that all know you heard was from the man sitting in Crossbury,
Corey Curran, mate. Thanks for coming on board. Thank you very much for having me.
Appreciate it, mate. Now, I do want to start this podcast. I want to give you a little bit of a
chance to spotlight on you. Just give us a real brief overview. I think a lot of the time when we
get guests in on this show, our show is like a third or fourth or fifth, sixth down the train for
whoever we bring on. So most of the time you don't need to introduce yourself. But for those that
don't know who you are, give us a little rundown who you are, what you do, and then we'll crack into
everything that we want to get covered. Yeah, absolutely. I don't really know what I do most
of the time. But I suppose like the round of it is I am technically like a photographer or a videographer.
But I kind of have switched into making my own content, but mostly floating that like DIY
four wheel drive camping kind of thing. Like I'm not a mechanic. I don't know what I'm doing
majority of the time, but it's more so like me figuring it out and trying to like get young
kids to not like kids, but like people that just got their first car, you don't need to spend a
hundred grand. Yeah, you can get something kind of cheap, build up on it and get it to a point that
it's like fun to use. And then you've also learned a bunch along the way. Yeah, 100%. No, I think
that's what stems are on your channel. So that for a little bit of an overview, your own YouTube
channel name Corey Kirl. Yeah, just Corey Kirl and Tik Tok. Corey Kirl and Instagram as well. Yeah.
No way. It's not Corey Kirl. It is absolutely good to follow the same. I kind of wish I had a cool
name though. Like I like when I say yourself short man, I think Corey Kirl works quite well.
So across those formats really quickly, what have you found? I mean, you started out as video photo.
What have you found is like your mainstay in? I'm a Tik Toker.
I don't know. Like I think I am like numbers wise. If you were to look at the follow account, which
I don't think really matters much of anything. I would probably be referred to as that.
But really, I want to be more on the YouTube side. Making 30 to 60 second videos is fun,
but making something 20 minutes. Like my most recent video took me a full month and a bit to film
for one 20 minute video. But that's just way more fun because obviously it's like
you enjoy that longer format stuff. Definitely. I find that the guys that we've spoken to around
that have started out in the video photo area, like they enjoy the detail around the longer
format videos and being able to draw a crowd in that way and the quality I suppose it can produce
over. Yeah, absolutely. I think because I'm like a videographer kind of first, more than like a
content creator. It means I can like do more cool stuff, like cool shit with shots. And it's
a couple of your passions. Yeah, you kind of get to merge it in there. Yeah, 100%. Now the other,
we will get into more detail on this too, because we're going to take it right back to sort of
where it all started for you. But the other half of Corey Kirl and his packed gear. Yes.
So really briefly, just what is that? And what can I buy?
I mean, you've already brought one. I have. can tell you one thing I can buy.
Because I was looking on the orders, like when you brought one, I was like,
name looks hell familiar. And then you talked about it the next week and I was like, oh, it's
absolutely. Yeah, we had it for our truth on the go about. Let's see. No, so good. It's basically
an unrolling closet. But when in like the compact form, it's a double bag. And like there is like
a shoulder strap coming at the moment. It's got like a carry handle. And then it's got like
removable toiletries pouches. So you can take them to your camp shower. But then it's really
just like hang it up on your awning or like on your back seats, I suppose. Yep. And that's got
like section dividers that keeps stuff organized because I hated that duffel bag, pull one thing
out, everything flops out behind it. Yeah. That's kind of genius idea. Like for those that haven't
seen it, check out packed gear online. And you'll see what Corey's talking about.
We've spoken about it before. Yeah, we have. Because when I first saw it, I was like,
I think I'm going to go and get one of these. How did you see it? Because you don't have
socials, do you? Yeah, I saw it on Instagram came up for me. Yeah, one of your videos. And I was
like, oh, that is unbelievable. And then I brought it in for on the radar. Jaden's still here, by the
way. Still here. Thank you. You're feeling a bit sorry for himself. Yeah, just thought I'd isolate
myself in the corner. Yeah, thank God, mate. So yeah, and then I don't know if you saw it before
or not, but I brought it in for on the radar and we talked about it. And then,
yeah, I just thought they were the best backs. Or potentially I saw it on YouTube, maybe an ad
came up on potentially, does that happen? Yeah, that can't happen, can it? Because I remember
looking at it, I'm going, I get the exact reason that you've built it, obviously,
was the reason like, and I travel every second week with hoodie. And so all of the time I'm in
and out of a bag, but as soon as you've tipped it upside down once, she's gone everywhere. And
especially out there when I didn't want to like, I knew I was going to be filthy
for a lot of the time that I was in there. So I didn't exactly want to go and be
touching all my toiletries or sifting through every other clean bit of clothing to get to that
one pair of jocks that I needed. And I found it unreal. So yeah, the initial reason I built it
actually, well, I started making it while we were doing a lap around Australia, me and my
missus. And we built this like giant, like when I say giant, imagine back seats, dual cab you,
floor to ceiling, like locked in, like wardrobe thing. And then I counted how many clothes that
I had in there, like bear in mind, the missus had more than a half, like fair enough, whatever.
It was only like what I fit in the packed bag pretty much. So I was like, I don't need all
this space, I can just make it a bag that I can hang either like as the C organizer,
or just chuck it as the duffel and throw it in. And it's way less space because there's no wood,
it's just fabric. And actually, I've carried on a bit about the pack of your stuff before we
need to get to it, but it actually does fit way more than what, when you receive it.
Yeah, it's a little bit squished up. Yeah, but then you open it like, oh, I'm not sure,
is Corey telling me the truth? But no, you are. And it genuinely, it fit like tons in.
Lucky being a lanky dude, I can feel like I have to put double XL shirts in there. So it's kind
of like, it was, I definitely ran more in than what, like, yeah, it was wicked. I just put it
in the back seat footwell. And then each, every day I just rolled it out and put it on the front
seat until it drove off again. We should probably stop talking about it. Everyone's going to think
it's just a paid poll. Yeah, well, potentially it's not. So anyway, let's get into you. So
cover it a little bit of that. So I want to know about where to grow up,
how'd you get into first videography, like your passion originally? And was that a thing through
your teens or whatever it might have been? But eventually we'll get to when you started to
find a love for four driving and getting outdoors. So where'd you grow up? I grew up in Kinross,
like Joondalop area pretty much for most people from WIFI, like you say, and all the suburbs
in the world. So Joondalop. And I went to school up there. And then I kind of started doing
photography and videography just with friends, maybe a little bit like Urban Exploring, which
I feel like most people that get into photography do a little bit of. Oh, here we go. I feel like
that's why I looked at him. So I was like, oh, Jane, absolutely. But anyway, that was just like
for a bit of fun. And then maybe like we had a family camera or something. And I took a couple
photos and I actually submitted one to a competition for Canon Australia. And then I won
$4,000 worth of camera gear. And they flew me and my mum to Sydney for an art exhibition
that my photo was in along with all the other people from the competition. What age were you
when this happened? I was in year 11 and I was sitting in tech graphics and an email came through
on my phone and it was like, congratulations, you've won. And I was like, what? And then so now I had
like a good camera. And then I started ending like lots of little competitions and just win like
little prizes here and there for like little bits of camera gear that when you're that age,
you don't have the money to pay for. But if you get it for free, like it helps a lot.
And then that went through year 12. I did like my media project thing.
Then that ended up getting shown in like a cinema screening for the best
films in Australia for your ATAR, for your ATAR submission, which was pretty cool.
And then from there, I started studying at uni, did one semester of architecture,
dropped out and then got a job that I shouldn't have got.
But the guy was just trying to get someone really young, but with a little bit of experience
to pay him less money. And then I was that guy.
But I'm not complaining because experience was insane. Like I did some really cool stuff.
Like I worked in like Tanzania, Thailand, New Zealand, like I did some crazy.
All behind the lens. Yeah. It was pretty mental and it was an absolute fluke of
circumstances, places, winning a competition. Just crazy. Yeah.
Crazy for me. It's not like a crazy story. No, it's pretty wild.
It's just like a weird how life just like, and then you just end up somewhere.
Domino just fell for you. Yeah.
And then went to a marketing agency. Boring. No one really cares about that.
And then I started working for a four wheel drive brand
called Julco. Like I still am like friends with the owner and stuff.
And they did hot water systems. Yeah. Yeah.
So I worked for them and did lots of their marketing and photos and like helped them
launch products and stuff. And then through that, like before that, I had a Suzuki Vitara,
like a two door soft top. We used to go bashing in the dunes, just like having fun in that thing.
Yeah. And then that was like the beginning of the four wheel driving kind of fun.
It's pretty fun four wheel driving when you're in something that's impossible to get bogged.
And if you get bogged, it's two blokes on the back, just pops out instantly.
Like, yeah, it's a really good way to learn and honestly recommend for anyone.
If you still get into four wheel driving, get something small and light and you can
have a lot of fun. It's great. Cool. That might be the terrain tamer tip of the week.
Buy a zoo. Just follow it there because otherwise we'll sit there for a while going.
Buy a cheap zoo. But yeah, buy something light, get out there and just car.
Don't even buy Max Tracks. So do you reckon you had, do you reckon it was like,
did you just have a natural talent, like an eye for videography and capturing sort of that?
Well, I don't understand how it works. Jayden would understand it a little bit more
because when Salty was in here as well, that that could have gone all day.
And I just couldn't fade away. But do you reckon you had like a natural talent?
Or is it something you've, like it sounds like you have a natural talent and,
and rightly so, good things happen. Good people fell into place for you.
But have you had to work on that throughout the time as well? Like, did you go hard on
what it was? Yeah. A lot of people probably at my age back then, you'd like watch,
like I would watch TV and I would watch YouTube and stuff.
But I was strangely addicted to watching tutorials. Like I, when I like think of
an activity, I'm like, I wonder how you do that. And I would just like watch tutorials
and I would watch editing tutorials from back when I was younger. Like even before I picked up
a camera, I'd already learned to edit. Yep. Embarrassing gaming stuff. Yeah.
So I kind of wanted to learn how to edit and then I was like, oh, shooting real life stuff is way
more fun anyway. So I would go and capture it outdoors. But yeah, I just got obsessed with
watching tutorials about it. It was super, super strange. I'm a bit of a nerd sometimes.
Yeah. So I like that kind of computer based stuff.
That's cool. So is the videography stuff, photo stuff, is that what like, so moving on to like
camping sort of stuff. So you had the, the zoo, take that out. Yeah, Jun's have a bit of fun with
the boys. When did sort of camping become like what you went out to then do? Yeah. And was it
to go and get content and shoot or just to go and get it out? Yeah. So my family used to camp
every school holiday. Yeah. Not like crazy camping. Like I mean caravan parks with five
families and you just go hang out. So then the natural progression is you kind of get bored,
like you're not going to do that when you're a teenager because you want to drink beers on the
beach. So then you go somewhere a bit more remote that you can do that. And then my
missus as well. Her family did kind of similar. And then when we got been together since like
year 10. Right. So a long time. Yeah. So we kind of like would do that together. And that would
be our holiday together. Of course. Instead of going over some sort of shared. Yeah. That makes it
that makes it a lot easier. COVID kind of ruined like we were going to do like Europe trip or
America trip or whatever. Yeah. And then smack bang when we'd kind of started saving money. We
both had some change to spend. Yep. COVID hit. So then we're like lap of Australia it is. Yeah.
Oh no that sucks. Absolutely terrible. Like best honestly worked out great because now I
actually kind of have a job. Yeah. So is that actually pause on that one? Yeah. Where did you
start going like camping? Yeah. So if you and the missus were going to go away, where would you go
north? Yeah. So we are my missus's family lives in busso. Right. So we didn't have a shortage of
like a common to stay down there. So we would always go busso. I'd go surf, should sit on the
beach. But then for camping we would normally go north. Yep. And we did trip shark bay, which is
a severely underrated all the way up to Xmouth. Yep. Bits and pieces. Yeah. So kind of do more
coastal stuff. Would that still be your preference? Yeah. But I should do more in Albany and
Esperance and stuff like I've done it. But I've done the touristy version. I haven't quite done
what I would do now. Yeah. Like get out proper bush. Yeah. Yeah. So the Beta A50 that you've
got, which is a big staple of your channel or channels, did that come? How long have you had
that? Yeah. That's 2021. Yeah. And I bought that after I sold a lemon of a Prado that I had in case
Toyota won a sponsor. Wow. A lemon of a Prado is not what we hear very often. Yeah. I mean,
honestly, I brought it from the sketchiest used car yard on this planet. Wow. Okay.
I wish I could call myself and five years, six years ago, and be like,
Corey, do not buy that car. Yeah. Look at the alarm bells and just don't buy that car.
What were the alarm bells? Just the venue I was buying the car from was enough.
Yeah. Mate, just terrible. It was proper janky job. You know, you see people on,
well, you wouldn't, you would see people on tickling like,
hey, I'm flipping a car today. And they're just like rust and black paint over the rust.
Yeah. Okay. I took the car out at Wilbinger just to go surfing. There's like a surf spot there.
Yeah. And it's not really a four wheel drive track to get there. Like you don't enter four
wheel drive. Yep. Prado four wheel drive constant, but snapped a shock absorber on just a flat.
Yeah. I know where you are. And you shouldn't be doing that there. Just snapped. And I was like,
what is this? So fix that. Then took it to my mate. That's a mechanic. And I was like,
just go through everything. Like, let me know what I'm in for here. Yeah.
And he just calls me back and goes, sell the car now. Engine out, oil leak,
like fix, full engine out. He was like, engine mounts are snapped. So he's like,
if you can just like, you get rid of the car. So I've got on my Mrs. Facebook account,
contacted the people that I brought it off and were like, yo, I don't, I like,
I want to sell your car. Do you guys just like come and check them out? And he's like, yeah,
absolutely. Go to my boyfriend at work and see it. And then they just gave me cash there,
took the car. So I sold it back to them. I didn't feel guilty because I'm like,
100%. That's on them. If they sell that car to someone like that. Whereas if I put it on Facebook,
marketplace and sold it to someone else, absolutely. I would not want to do that.
So that's them. That's on them. They sold me 11 and I sold it to them and back to them.
Yeah. Yeah, it's an integrity, at least. Sorry. Long way of me saying, and then I brought the
BT50 with the cash that I got from that, which was not enough to buy BT50.
Especially if that's still going. What about you mentioned surfing? Has that always been a
passion as well? Yeah. Originally I was trying to be a photographer back in the day. Probably
not much money in it, but I love being in the water. That was the, yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's funny
how like, I love in these timelines that we find, especially if it's still a passion now,
like all of the stuff that you've been doing, how it all merges together somewhere in like those
late teenage years, where it all just becomes a thing. Yeah. And they all help each other out
in some way or another. I'm going to get going. We've done the first four drive, which is a good
also before I go, don't get me wrong. 120 series Prado. I miss that car. I just don't
miss my specific one. Yeah. I love that car. How it drives everything sick. Just not my lemon.
Yeah. It's honestly, I don't think I've ever heard of a lemon Prado. Like you must have been that
unlucky. Or just a few lemon Prados. We haven't had many on the show.
It'll be like one, it'll be that one. Someone's still driving it. Still curious.
So let's go to the YouTube channel. Cause I'm a, I shouldn't assume actually,
what sort of came first for you? Like in terms of the creator side of things, was it YouTube that
you sort of tried to sink into early? No, it was, it was short form, but that was just because at
the agency, I was running some very like household name level companies TikTok and they were, we
were doing, like our team was doing like crazy views, like 20 million views a week type thing.
So I was kind of like, well, if I can do that for them or be a part of that, I should maybe try
for myself. I hate being on camera. Well, I hate it a little bit less now, but back in the day,
you could not pay me to get on the camera. It started as voiceover. Like if you scroll back
in my videos, I'm like, can you hear me in my bedroom? Just like, Hey guys,
trying to get me to answer. Oh, so bad. Yeah. So it's short form that you started with.
Yeah. Yeah. So when did the YouTube channel start? I think when we started the lap,
cause we were, we did the same that everyone does, which is we're doing a lap. We want to
make YouTube videos. And I think doing the like YouTube videos of a lap is like,
there's like the scale of getting famous on YouTube, like becoming like a YouTuber would be
like making daily vlogs or weekly vlogs, like consistent travel content. And then it would be
like doing builds, like the difficulty level, so much lower. It's because like there's a
transformation, like you're watching to see a final result. Whereas like when you're traveling,
you just have to have the gusto to keep someone watching for 20 minutes or 30 minutes or an hour
even. Yeah. And you have to post hundreds and hundreds of videos to get that connection to
like a big amount of people. Yeah. So I kind of went down the building route. And that's also
where I had, like not, I had more fun traveling, but I had more fun filming the building stuff.
Yeah. Okay. Cause when you're traveling, you just want to be traveling unless you're going to pay
a cameraman, which I was going to say, how did you find that balance? Like, because that one thing
that we learned from our big trip that we'd never been on, like a filming trip before was that it
got quite tiring. All the camera work. Yeah. And we, and I, I didn't even touch a camera,
let alone going into any of it or anything. Yeah. And I love the product that's come of it. Yeah.
But I also at the time I was like, oh, this is actually quite tiring. Yeah. Like in between
all the, the traveling and the sightseeing that you're wanting to be out there doing, like did
you find that draining? Yeah, I think so. And I felt like a lot of the times when you're like
in a really cool spot, it like takes you away from the experience a little bit. So I should be
filming this or, oh, why didn't we film that river crossing? Yeah. Like that's the most first
world problem I've ever said. Yeah. Like you're traveling, you're paying to travel. Well, like
in my case, I was paying to travel. Yep. And you're kind of like, oh, maybe I should just
actually enjoy this and take photos. Like photos is a fun thing to do. Cause you're like in a cool
spot and you're like, oh, couple photos. Done. Whereas when you're filming a full vlog, you're
like, hey, now we're going here, like set up a tripod or whatever. All right, Dago, just reverse
back, like 4Ks mate, so we can get this one. It wasn't 4Ks except I think it was 3.5, but
they started taking the piss out of me. Especially your mate, Jacob. Oh yeah,
he loves it, Jacob. He did. Where was your favourite spot on that Australia trip?
Australia trip. Or do you, it's too hard. I say from that trip, even though we did Cape York,
and we just didn't do the NT in that trip, because we flooded the car in Cape York.
Yes. I don't know about that. So we did Vic High Country and because I'm from WA,
I've been to Melbourne, like my family's originally from Melbourne. Yep.
Cape York is, oh sorry, Vic High Country is just so weird that you can just four wheel drive up
a thousand metre mountain and then back down the other side and then you just have another one
to drive up like straight away. Like to me, that's so bonkers that you can just do that.
That's highlight for me. Yeah, okay. It's very much like there's nothing really of that
nature in WA. Even almost all around Australia, like the Vic High Country is quite,
you know, and obviously for the snow aspect too, when it's that time, I'm from Victoria,
never done the High Country. Oh no. Oh no, that's not my, it's a, yeah, it's embarrassing.
West, like back smart, Ballarat area towards Ballarat. Yeah. So other side, but it's not that
far away. Yeah. But to be honest, I wasn't into it like I am now. At the time, we would do some
camping and that as a family and with dad and brother and some extended family, but the High
Country was just never on the list. Yeah. We weren't that into it. So beautiful. Yeah. Even Ronny
saying it. You don't have to go out there and break your card. There's plenty of tracks that are
like, you put your locker in for one or two obstacles and then the rest is quite enjoyable.
It's not the King Chrome build series that we're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Although I mean,
I did end up on one of those tracks accidentally, but yeah, right. How'd you go on that? I was
likely coming down. I don't actually know the name of it, but I scraped my chassis. I reckon about
20 times. And then we ended up getting stuck on a seesaw pendulum and young and dumb 20-year-old
Corey from WA doesn't have a winch. So there's videos of me like if you can imagine me on the
back bar, the Mrs is driving and I'm like jumping up and down trying to get traction on the back
wheels. We tried rock stacking everything and just luckily enough, some bloke happened to
drive down a river for a kilometer and then up this track and winch me out. If not, we were,
I was, I had to drill and I was drilling through the clay and it was like,
I was actually making ground for where the chassis was stuck like chipping it away.
But yeah, I would have been there for a couple of hours.
So what's to me about the flooded car? Yeah, you would think it's the Tally track,
but it's the Frenchman's. Before I go into the story, so people don't think I'm just
terrible at forward driving, I posted the video and a guy messaged me a couple of days later
and he was like, don't be embarrassed about this. There was three blokes in patrols all with 35s,
two days before me that got stuck in the same hole because it's a puddle. It's not a river
crossing. It's a legit puddle. Like it's embarrassing. And he said all of them on 35s just got bogged
and I was like, well, no wonder why I was on 32s. I just got swallowed in this puddle with no,
nothing probably touching the ground. But anyway, we'll do in the Frenchman's solo
because it's the easier of the tracks up there. It's just the two river crossings and the
eastern side river crossing is a bit sketchy, but then the climb out is like,
you might have to have three or four cracks at it. And we felt invincible because we had
already done the Tally track. We're like, oh, Tally track done, signed, not bogged once,
didn't even have to like reverse down an obstacle, just flew through it all,
get to the Frenchman's, having a bit of fun. We're doing some like filming then.
And then just I walked this puddle because it had like a chicken track. And then I was like,
walking through. And I think I must have just walked either in the middle right or on the bank
and it was ankle deep water. And then I have the video after I pulled the car out where I
pulled the car out of was waist deep, like, oh, like groin deep. So I just drove in there.
Groin deep, but how tall are you? What, 66
No, no, you're tall. 194cm. You're a tall man.
Definitely, I was saying, I'd definitely spoke to you while you were sitting down.
Groin deep on you is probably like, chest deep on a few others.
I mean, for the BT, it was, we were on like a slant towards the passenger side.
The passenger side speaker was completely underwater.
And the driver side had like a maybe like shin deep pool inside the car, like in the cabin.
And then so obviously first thing I do, jump out, not jump out the window. That would be
smart. I open my door with water coming in and then I'm trying to close my door.
Then I put the window down, jump out of the window, go to winch and just like full frantic.
Like I've not actually been bogged this bad ever. And when I have been bogged really bad,
it's beach sand. And beach sand is my second nature. Zookie driving on the beach.
So I winched, like clip onto a tree with a tree protector, start winching out.
You have a winch by this stage. Yeah, I learned my mistake after that. And I went and got a
winch, I think a week later and installed it in the bush, full bush mechanic in the bush,
taking a bull bar off. Don't recommend. That's good effort.
And then yeah, winch onto a tree, tree starts coming down. So then I'm like,
take the winch off, put it around a tree that I had like in my YouTube video.
You see it, the camera, like I stopped it and you can just see all the marks of the tree
trump protectors that have gone around this tree. I'm like, oh, well, obviously that's the
tree to winch off. So I'll start winching and then my whole dash just goes every warning light
on. And I was like, so now I have no power in my car. The engine's still running.
So I go open the bonnet and my fan is just enough underwater that it's like a water
feature in the bonnet. I'm like, I've lost my car now. Like it's just here forever.
So then a bunch of time goes by, ends up being like three hours later and some girl and guy,
like a couple on motorbikes pull up. Helpful, but also not that helpful because they can't
help me get out. If for a second there though, I was like, I'm just picturing two motorbikes
with snatch straps on the back. Obviously that didn't happen. It would honestly be insane if
that work. And then they're like looking in the engine day and I'm like, I've like tried
everything. Like I've looked at all the, because my off the back of the positive terminal on the
battery, there's this like long fuse box and it's all these like clear fuses and they were all
dirty. So I gave them a white, all intact. And then I'm like, yeah, like I don't know what's
happening. I think she's actually a mechanic and he does something else. And she's like looking
around. She's like, there has to be a few summaries. It makes no sense why the winch would cook
everything else. At this stage, I also turned the engine off by accident. I, for some reason,
I thought diesel can run without battery. Like I don't know where I've heard this,
but I know for a fact old diesels can like tractors and stuff because people do the old
start it, take the old battery, put the new battery in. So I was took the battery terminal off
because I was going to put the winch directly onto the battery to see if it was something there,
like isolate the problem basically. So the engine turns off. Stupid. Absolutely idiot.
No reception. Can't Google anything to make sure that I'm not being dumb.
And then she does like 20 minutes looking around and she just happens to rub her finger
over this bit of plastic. We were nine months into doing a lap of Australia. So you can only
imagine they'd say that the engine bay and on the like actual physical plastic block
on the battery terminal, there's a fuse under there. And she just like wipes her finger over
and she's like, there's your problem, bro. And I was like, so I had to crank the engine
basically underwater, well, like partially underwater at like snorkel everything. So it's
not the worst, but also probably wouldn't do that. Like you would just winch and then start your car.
And then finally, oh, sorry, I soldered the fuse back together because it's not like
a blade fuse. It's like actually built into the terminal. So you have to replace the whole part.
You can't just put a new blade in. So I've soldered it back together,
winch up, like breaks the suction. It was hard work for the winch as well. And the winch was
rated for more than the car by a lot. Finally get up, open the doors, all the water goes out,
whatever. And then we're like, well, now I guess we just hope the car doesn't break down.
And then four times after that, the, I don't have an actual pre fuel filter, but just the
like water separator on the BT, like the BT is the same as a DMACS kept getting water in it. So I
kept having to pump water out of the fuel filter. Was that like, oh, it's like up in the engine bay.
But was that like, oh yeah, straight away. So basically four times straight away.
Yeah. Within probably like 20 minutes of each other, which I was at that stage, I was like,
this car is the engine's going to hydro lock for sure. It's just going to hydro lock. And then
luckily it didn't. And I still drive that car to this day. And it's now got 178,000 k's and it's
a 2021 speakers still work. The speakers work and they were underwater for three or four hours.
Is that? I don't know how that works. Yeah. How'd you go like with the,
just like the real basic of the car being just wet, like all your shit would have been wet.
Yeah. Most of the setup in terms of the insights about that was pretty good.
But in cans for like three days, we got like a wet vac from Ken Edds or something.
Wet vac down. I think I probably took probably like 10 to 15 liters out of the carpet. And they're
I don't know what it's called, the insulation. It's like recycled fibres almost. So it just
holds like a sponge. Even if you ring it out, you come back later and then you ring it out again.
Is that what's in the door cards or something? Under the carpet to make it that plush feeling
in your car. Yeah. The car stank. It was grotty. And then we drove from cans to Perth in like four
days. Just praying the car wouldn't explode. Oh, so you hightailed it out of there straight back
home. Yeah. After we kind of let it dry out so we didn't get like mold poisoning.
Do you have more plans to keep going or is that always going to be the finish of the trip?
At that stage, we were going to try go into the NT, not do a lot of it, but just do a little bit
and then hang out in X now and just relax before going home and going back to reality.
But then we like put in Google Maps to like go home and through the NT it was like
roads closed because there was like something like 15 bushfires.
And it was like do not go this way. Like you're not going to make it through.
So then we went middle of Queensland all the way down to Vic. We kind of like skip Vic and then
go. So we went the long way, but the safe way because we knew like we're not going to get
because it was the beginning of the wet. We're not going to get rained on. We're not going to get
in a bushfire like safe route. It's a funny YouTube video. Even if you don't watch the
whole Cape York video, just rewind or fast forward to the end. It's pretty funny.
You're obviously, and I want to ask you about this next, but I just wouldn't have any idea
what to do in that situation. If someone didn't come along to help me there, I'm completely
cooked already. So I know you said you love tutorial videos and that was your thing to do
find out how to do stuff, but like has a lot of what you've learned to do because you can continue
this on with like the channels now as well and the build stuff that you spoke about too. So
is a lot of that the trial and error that you've just over time, you've just had a crack and that's
been the way because I'm assuming that the canopy on the back of the BT at the time wasn't what you've
now got either. That was out of canvas canopy on there. That's like a WAU1. You would have seen
them drive around super clean. They are nice actually. They're real good. Oh yeah. Like if I
was to have just like a work, a youth that I take camping occasionally, that would have never let
it up. Yeah. But yeah, I just had that on the back. So the trial and error aspect of everything
you've done sort of with the car and the builds and even the mechanical stuff, like is that just
been having a crack? Yeah, yeah. It was like self-taught just getting to it. Yeah. And I was like,
for the 60 series, which I have now and I'm working on like, you just find the manuals online and you
can just scroll through and because I don't really know much. So if I'm bored instead of scrolling
TikTok, I'll put like a YouTube video on TV and I will like, sounds ridiculous. Like have a look
through the manual and just like scroll to a page that I have no idea what the hell I'm looking at.
And I'm like, oh, okay, let's like kind of have a look at what this is. It's pretty boring, but it's
also interesting. Oh, and now I know where this stupid Y goes. That's not plugged into. Yeah. And
that's what you find like, that's what you want to do. That's what you want to do. It's not boring.
It's in my best interest to know about this car before I take it up to broom. So the BT50,
go to the 60 series too. I completely even forgot about that. And I just
we're getting to it. We're Yeah, it is. It is in there. I've
sort of stopped looking now. I kind of feel like we're in the flow. Still got to hear about it.
Thanks mate. Keep a check on me. The canopy now that you've got set up, that is completely unique.
Yeah. I think there's not, I don't think there's many BT50s rolling around with it, let alone any
dual cab you. Yeah. So talk to talk us through that. And then I want to hear a little bit about
like some of your own little mods that you've done to the BT50 over the five years, six years you've
had it. Yeah. So I have a, I suppose probably none of you have any clue who the hell was talking
on this microphone. I have like a, it's called like a canopy camper or an America more famously
known as like a truck camper. It's basically aluminium tub topper. So not a full canopy
tray just on top of your tub. And then it has a rooftop tent bolted onto it. And then
the bed becomes, sorry, the bed, you pop the tent up. It's got two hatches that go up into
your rooftop tent. So you basically have like, I call it the poor man's troopy. You have the
poor man's troopy on a you and you don't have to buy a troopy. You can buy, you can just use
whatever. Yeah. So it's like a roof converted canopy, but like rooftop tent converted canopy
troopy version or else. Yeah. Cause it's pretty sick. And you've, and you've done that all.
Like you've put that all on yourself, haven't you? Yeah. I installed it myself, but it was,
I brought it off Alibaba. Yeah. Alibaba job. Really? That's pretty cool. Yeah. Pretty,
I imported it. Like I have a logistics person for packed. So I got like cheaper rates to get the
shipping in and stuff, but you can just go on there and be like, Hey, do you have this model?
And they're like, yeah, no worries. Here you go. And then you just buy on through Alibaba and
they just ship it to you. Are you loving that setup? Yeah. Oh, it will be, that will be probably like
my actual setup, whether I go to a company that's good and the canvas you can see through. Yeah.
But like the actual, the actual setup itself. You love it. So good. Yeah. Yeah. Just poor man's
what is it that you love about it? Oh, I'm sorry. Before I need out of web or like a barbecue,
because at the moment we only have induction cooktop. Okay. And we were meant to that's inside
though. That's like, yeah. Sorry. So we have the full kitchen setup. Yeah. We have like a kitchen,
we have literally the kitchen sink, everything, including the kitchen. So we have a kitchen sink
in there, induction cooktop, expensive coffee machine, which is my coffee machine from home.
It just goes in there for trips. Yeah. And then a water tank and then I think couch. Yeah. So
if people haven't seen this, they would be, I feel like they would struggle to picture this.
Yeah. If you've seen a Troopy setup, just imagine that, but in the back of you, you
yeah, so a little bit smaller, more compact. Yeah. And there's like a bench
seat, which has storage in it. And then you sit across from the kitchen and you can just
cook in there. Yeah. And because we cook on induction, we can close all the windows and then
just open the mesh and all the grease and shit just vent straight out.
And it works pretty good. Like it's not for your weekend traveler yet, but if you're going to do
a lap of Australia and you're like, do we get a camper trailer or a caravan or something? Yeah.
But you're like willing to like go a bit rougher, but you can go any track. You don't have to worry
about towing anything or you want to tow a tinny. It's like the perfect setup for that.
The weight of it is. So the canopy itself excluding the rooftop tent was up 40 kilos,
which is nothing. It's flat packed. It's just bolts together, rivnuts.
Yep. And then the rooftop tent from memory is like 80 to 100 kilos. So is the rooftop
tent bought separate? No. It's always the one. Yeah. But I think it's really heavy because
they have to make a reinforced frame where the canopy bolts to the rooftop tent because the
canopy is pretty flimsy by itself in terms of like side to side, swaying and back to
forth, backwards and forth. But once you put the tent on rigid as for an Alibaba job,
it's actually pretty good windows. Well, and it looks like it's unique,
but it's also not huge and bulky. Yeah. It's pretty. Yeah. The way that I think
it sounds when you explain it is like, yeah, how big is this thing to pack all of that into?
It looks perfectly important to the rest of the car, I think. Yeah. That's pretty sick. Alibaba.
That's actually where I first found your content, Corey. Interesting. That BT50 video came up.
Yeah. I think you were you getting negative feedback about that setup? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of
people were like, as I'm imagining a lot of people right now listening are probably like,
that sounds like such a dumb idea. And then you see it and you're like, oh, okay, I get it. It's
just not for me, but it is like, it is useful works just for that. Like, I'm actually, you guys
would know this exactly when you have those situations where there's flies in your eyeballs.
Oh, yeah. You sometimes just want to be able to lock yourself up and cook dinner without flies
in your dinner. Yeah. Yeah. It is cool. Go and check it out if you haven't seen it.
Quickly on YouTube, any form of it, mainly YouTube, we like to ask people who do have their own
channels and stuff like, if you want to get into that side of things and you spoke about going on
the lap and filming it and getting a cross on YouTube, like, do you have any little tips for
people about starting out on YouTube? Or maybe as well, if that's a little bit harder, a bit
broad, like the reasons as to why you should do it. Yeah.
I mean, one, this is not my words, but from like, there's a, there's a YouTube podcast
on literally how to become YouTube. They're called Colin and Simeo, weird plug. If any of you are
actually really interested, they're like super good. And they interview like the biggest YouTubers
in the world. So they have like Mr. Beast on there, like, not that I'm trying to in any way
do what he does, like absolutely stuff that. You never know.
But like, they have obviously interesting insights. And one of the guys said, who's like a science
YouTuber for kids, basically, he was like, if you want to do something to be famous,
or for the money, he was like, you're just probably not going to succeed. Because you're
going to get to a point where either you are making the money, or you are famous, or you're just never
going to get there. And you haven't really accomplished anything yet. Whereas if you're
doing it because you're like, oh, I just want to make videos. And I want to show people like
my cool car set up, or you want to show, you just want to document stuff. Like a lot of people
end up doing YouTube because like, oh, I just wanted to document my journey. And then because
it's really authentic, it ends up being good videos. And then people just find them. Like the
algorithm is insanely good. Like if you have a video, it will put it in front of people. And if
it's a better, like a good video, then it will put it in front of more people. I mean, better is
subjective, right? Because the algorithm optimizes for something.
Each of their own a bit. But it will kind of, like if it's a good video, it should
eventually pick up some steam. There's a lot of testing and shit you can do to make sure of that.
The passion, I suppose, for actually what you're doing, rather than don't do it, because it might
get you free shit money. Yeah, absolutely. Famous, yeah. That is, that's wrung true with so many
that we've spoken to as well. You can't do it for those reasons. Because it won't happen. I think
best part about that is like, yeah, you either, you either won't get there or won't make you the
money or it won't be whatever it is. But it just, you will not find it rewarding. I wouldn't have
thought if you're like slaving to get that out there and just constantly have it. I just don't
find that that would be very enjoyable for your own stuff. I literally just that video I talked
about before. I spent all of it was probably like two months learning how to sew. So I could make
my own center console and a poster at all. That's so stupid. That's so good. Well, that's
the next part, right? Like getting into the 60 series, you're doing all of that interior stuff
yourself. You're 3D printing, you're sewing, you're building it all the way you want it done.
What's the go with the 60 series? How'd you get into that? And why? Because it's the best looking
car ever made. Cool. Sorry, best looking forward drive ever made. I don't know. 80 series is pretty
nice. 80 series? No, 80 series is probably the best. See, they're probably both better forward
drives, but I think just purely looks wise. 60 is just unbeatable. Kind of like a Porsche, you know,
like I don't like super cars or those kind of things, but you look at a Porsche with like the
interior and the seats and you're like, okay, that is pretty cool. Like it's like looks hand
like properly made. So it's that kind of like the 60 series you just look at it. Even my Mrs
doesn't really like cars. She likes them as like a vehicle to get somewhere. But I showed her a 60
after her telling me I wasn't allowed to buy another car and she was like, oh no, I could
imagine you sitting in that passenger seat. And I was like, yeah, no, that is pretty cool.
Yeah, we could. But I kind of, it was, it's basically my way of learning everything,
well, not everything, a lot more about a car and it not being like my daily driver that I need to
get everywhere. Or if I want to go to Xmouth tomorrow, I can take the BT. Yeah, you're not
relying on this car at all yet. But in saying that, I am actually currently relying on that car.
Yeah, okay. Yeah, but yeah, it's more so like I wanted to actually take something back to more
like strip it back and learn all the steps so that if I was out on the tracks like
like Ronnie wealth of knowledge, I don't have that knowledge. So I kind of need to learn.
So I need to buy a shit car and make it better. Yeah. Yeah. So that so what so Jaden's talk like
even down to the like three day printing for parts of the interior. Yeah. So I made like,
I'm assuming you did not say I made like a center console. So I would say that the center console
on a 60 is like the same level as the C. So like you can't rest your arm on it. Yeah. Sorry,
I'm going away from the light. Yeah, you can't rest your arm on it. So I made like a riser
and then a like a arm rest. And then I made it connect to under the dash. The dash looks exactly
like yours. Yeah. And you know where like your gear shifter is. Yeah. I made like, have you seen
cruiser console? Yeah. Yeah. I made basically that but start like 80s style. So it's like,
it looks like retro. Yeah. I didn't go for like, make it new, put it in there. Yeah. Yeah. And
then I did like new carpet and stuff. Yeah. So like three day printed like fully custom designed
at all on the computer. So three day printing. Is that just been a thing that you've learned how
to do as well? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's good. That goes back to learning before I even picked up a
camera and started 3D modeling on the computer. That's kind of why it started architecture for
a little bit. Yeah. So I was like, oh, 3D modeling, 3D model real life architecture.
So what have you done to the 60 and what like, where are you at? Like what's still to come?
Yeah. What stage is it at? So I've done all the wheel bearing, swivel hubs,
new tires, new lift. Bear in mind, this is all like done by me. And then like, I didn't put the
tires on the rims, took that to a shot. Yeah. Installed the suspension myself. All the swivel
hubs were done by myself. Pulled the engine because it blew up. Diagnosed why it blew up and then
took it someone to rebuild it because if I was going to, to have to spend a lot of
money to rebuild it myself and then for it to break to then pay someone else to rebuild it anyway,
kind of just skipped a step there. In saying that I would love to rebuild an engine one day
and I'll probably just buy something specifically to rebuild and then put it into a car once I'm
confident. And then engine back in, which I didn't do they did because it needs to be warranted.
And then I just put a compressor in like a ARB compressor and then because I got lockers fitted.
And then I just did yesterday or the day before I installed like a real basic dual battery system.
And I tried it. I did like as cheaply and as quickly as possible. Like I think I did it in like
three or four hours. But like it's all shit that someone can just go to the shops, like go to
super cheap or rep coal or whatever and just pretty much pick it up and then put it in themselves.
The only thing I didn't include in that was the battery, which I'd like my old lithium
battery just to learn around. So trying to like do a little bit more of a basic build there.
And then to come is bed in the back. I want to do the wagon bed and I got like an idea to make it
kind of like, you know, like your little fold out couches you had when you were a kid or whatever.
I want to make it so there's like a bed and then it like
concertina's up. And then there'll be like a couch out the back of the 60. So when you pull
up at the beach, you can just like be like in a little reclined couch with your feet on the tailgate
and just like sit back. I love that. That's a cool vision. It'll be like basic. I want it to be like
something that a 18 year old that's got a 60 series can build and not like break the bank.
I don't want the BT's a bit more bougie, like got that all professionally cut that I designed.
And then the 60 will be a bit more like, you can just do this yourself. And I'm not great
with woodworking. Like you can just figure it out and that'll be a bit more fun.
Is that like, so there's a plan for that car then to go more like just shoot up for a night,
throw it on the beach, sleep in it and go back the next day.
Absolutely. They are a very, they're a timeless looking vehicle.
That's the perfect one.
They are. Yeah. They're pretty sick. I noticed a little bit of wear paint.
Are you going to touch that? Is that part of the look? Because I actually, I look at it.
They're like patina. Is that what they call it? A patina?
Potato. Like on some like, like old like dodgers, I think they're called, you know,
like the real curvy old American youth and they like paint them rusted.
Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Potato. Yeah.
No, sorry. It's not a part of the look. It's gone worse. It does suit it a little bit,
especially with the farm bar that's on it now. That's a temporary,
because I didn't want to hit a kangaroo when I go to broom or a cow or something.
I just wanted some good protection. But the paint, I will probably get painted,
but in the, I don't know, in the nature of it being a budget build,
I'm probably going to get the cheapest paint job on Facebook marketplace.
Okay. Because I think it's just a funny video.
Yeah. Because like most people don't want to do it.
And it's a bit silly, but like I get content from it. So if it's good,
I get good content from it. And if it's bad, I get funny content from it.
And I'll just have to fix it myself, which I'm completely fine with.
Like if it peels in a year's time, like I'm, I'm happy to learn how to repaint the bonnet
or repaint the roof. I doubt I'll have to repaint the entire car,
but there will be some repaint.
The roof's the exact same as the bonnet, but I'm pretty lucky.
There's always more rust than what you can see, but I only really have like two panels of bad
rust and they're both pretty hidden. So if their panel work isn't the greatest, like it's okay.
And it's not a show car. Like, yeah, what's, do you know what the original,
like what the name of that color is? The original color?
I want to say graph fire, but I don't think that's right. I think that might be a
Isuzu color. Yeah, right. And where do you buy this too?
I brought it up in the hills. Like not Calamanda, but like up there.
Yeah, cool. Yeah. It was up in the hills and
here the dad was some, I hope they don't listen to this, the dad was a mechanic.
And the son was the owner of the car. And the mechanic had looked after it really well.
Hence why I had to pull the engine. Anyway, that's, that's my fault.
They'll definitely listen to this.
No, in saying that though, like it's a sick car. I love it so much. I'm probably pretty
negative on it, but that's because it like, we're talking about what I had to fix.
Yeah. Apart from that, I love it. It's so sick driving.
I wish that more modern cars had the window visibility that that car has.
They're like the, is it a pillar? The one like where you like grab hand would be
next to the driving is like maybe like five to seven centimeters thick.
And then the rest of the car is just windows. So like there's no blind spot because it's
all window. You can see everything. You actually feel like you're driving a car,
not like a locked off box on the road. That's quite nice.
Is it an auto or a manual as well? It's manual. With that engine, if you get an auto,
you look like it doesn't have much power. It's a turbo. So it's a 12 HT. But if you go auto,
I think you lose like 15% of your power. So you kind of want the manual if you want to be able to
push it. Yeah. Okay. Yep. And they're talking about, we've coloured practically a little bit
and you've told us what that is and what inspired you, I suppose, to create that.
What have you learned about business in that sense? Because I know you are a business,
I suppose, in the way that you create, but the business around the bags, what have you learned
on that journey as well? And where do you sort of see that? Where do you see that going? Like
learn infinite things, timelines and whatever you think they are. Yeah, okay.
Because obviously, it's a manufacturing business. It's not white labelled. Like a lot of people
will white label, which is like, you find a product you like, you change 10% of the things,
put your logo on it and now it's your product. Mine was like, I had to learn about sewing
like the theory of it and like do drawings and send it to a manufacturer to manufacture.
Yep. And like last two years in a row, I've been sold out for Christmas.
Yeah. Which is peak time for a camping product.
Yeah. Just because I'm like optimistic about timelines and then it just doesn't work.
Yeah, okay. Timelines are so many things. There's like lots of like analyticky type bits and pieces
that like it would just be boring. But really, I started packed
because I wanted to have my own brand, my own company so that I wouldn't have to take
like heaps of sponsorships for like products and stuff, like paid sponsorships.
Like I do them very, very, very occasionally, like rarely. But then it means like
packed funds the content which people get to watch for free. And then if someone decides
that they like packed, they can buy a bag. They don't have to. And I'm like, I always say like,
even if you don't want to buy a bag, like share the video to someone that might,
like I don't want to push people to buy something. Since I've basically said,
like my whole message is trying to get people to build stuff themselves and
do like their own stuff. But like it kind of works good because I'm not having to be like,
okay, who's paying me this week to post a video? Like I just don't have to do it.
Yeah. I mean, I might have to do it sometimes, but I can take them way more sparingly.
And I'm not just destroying my bank account by building a car.
Yeah. So have you enjoyed that side though too? Like that's been something that you've
enjoyed adding to your life? Oh yeah. Yeah. It's like pretty stressful because I do it
all myself. Like my missus will help me pack orders here and there. And my parents like
will pack orders if I go away, which is helpful. I look very, very helpful.
But it is fun. Like it is cool. Yeah. And without any detail whatsoever,
no specifics, but is it like, are you running out some pretty good numbers?
Like in terms of there's been a lot of interest and yeah, and oh, like views wise,
they do quite well. Like I sent some to like people that respa sprayed an 80 sandy tour
and it looked sick. And I was just like, yo, like, do you guys want a packed bag?
Like you don't really have to do much for it. And then they put it on their Instagram and it
did like 30,000 views. And they're like, they get like some pretty cool views for it,
especially because they're just starting up because they're just about to travel.
But it was like well above the views that they should get. And it's just crazy that it's just
them packing a clothes bag. Yeah. But it's like, I think people just find it interesting,
like the product itself. Yeah. Like we spoke about at the start, like 100%. I think it's a,
we're like, I know, I know like why you didn't. But the actual drawing it up and learning to sew
and drew like sort of like, how does that all work? A lot of documents.
Another broad question. Yeah. Yeah. It's basically you're just sending like a big
document pack. Yeah. So they're like, this is an overview of the product. This is what it's
supposed to function like. So you're explaining like the idea behind it. And then you go into
like technical details, which is like, this side should be this long, this side, this long,
this bit, this deep, and then you just go through. And then you're like outline where you want like
piping, which is like the like nice edging or like, what's on my t-shirt here?
Yep. Oh yeah. Yep. So you go into like all that detail. And then the manufacturer would just come
back with questions and be like, Hey, yeah, that kind of looks okay. But you missed this 3000
things. And then it goes to prototyping, which I went through maybe like six, maybe six prototype.
Something like that. So they would make one, send it back. Yeah. You check it out. Oh, like the
first idea was the worst single worst thing I've ever seen in my life. It was originally going to
be like a cube. Yeah. Now it kind of ends up packing up almost to a cube, but it was like
actually a box. And then the middle was going to be like lots of jumpers. Right. So you could fit
like three or four jumpers in there, which sounds like a great idea. And then when I got it, it was
like the size of a small briefcase, like it was way too big. So it definitely got better.
Yeah. Right. It's a bit, I genuinely, without pissing in your pocket, like it's a pretty
genius idea. I think of a bag. I appreciate it. I agree. Well, what were the main problems you
kept running into when you first started the bag? You tell your supplier to do something,
then they don't do it. That was a big one. I don't know. What else?
Well, six prototypes. Yeah. And probably the last three of those were like finishing touches,
just trying to make it, like it would have been functionally good, but like looks wise,
it would just be like a bit, a bit poor. And you know, like everyone in the four-wheel drive
industry, you want your stuff to look good. And if it doesn't look good, it kind of has to look
like tough, like look good, like well built, if it isn't like an aesthetically nice camping thing.
Yeah. Yeah. So all of this combined packed content that you're putting out. I don't know,
do you do any like freelance, videography occasionally? Occasionally, so a little bit of
that mixed in. But in terms of like, I like to call it real, real,
that was a different noise. In terms of like real life work, I call it because I don't think I do
a real life job. And yours is because I don't, I don't, getting to know Ronnie. I feel like,
feel sad that there's like no one in my chair. He's gone now, but anyway.
Actual work. So what you were doing, say before all this, you don't,
like you've been able to quit your job. Yeah. Yeah. From, yeah. But this kind of was my job
before I quit. So I still do a lot of the same thing, but it's just for myself now.
Yeah. Like I make a way less consistent paycheck. Yeah. Especially if you took packed out of it.
Like I can go months where I probably just make zero. And then maybe I post a good packed video
and it'll do well. And then I make a little bit of money. And then maybe I'll get
an opportunity to film something for someone else. And it all kind of like rounds out at
the end. I'm like, oh no, it was okay for the year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what,
and I was talking about this numerous times when he said, people would be sick of hearing it,
but you probably haven't heard it because I, like take my hat off to you guys because it,
like seeing, and I've had the experience with Ronnie probably more so than anyone else, but
chatting with, and even probably here as a platform across all of their shows that
back chat produced, like this stuff is not easy work a lot of the time. Easy for me because
I get up here and I sit behind this and talk and go home and don't do any of this, but it's
generally like it's pretty flat out what you boys do. And so I think like the people that think
content creating and all this is just easy fun. Just pull out a phone every now and then film and
put it off. It's like, to me, it's not at all that. So like when I say that you've been able to
move on from your daily job, like it's not to go and live the high life and like, yeah,
you get to do some travel and like it looks, looks good fun and it is good fun because it's a passion,
but it's not like there's no lack of effort or hard work behind it. And I think that's been
consistent with everyone I've met in this sort of space that it's like pretty full on
it's a lot of hours. There's a lot of hard work and like you've got to make things like you've
got to make ends meet yourself. You know, you know, sort of rely on you can't rely on anyone
else to get it done by yourself. So it's like it's proper. Yeah, it's like it is definitely like the
the only way you can say is like the craziest job ever. It makes no sense. Like what do you mean
you take photos and videos of yourself post them online and somehow make money? Yeah,
like it is pretty silly, but like I suppose it just depends what you like. Like I made in the last
week, probably like 30 thumbnails for one YouTube video. Like see to most people,
that probably sounds like torture and it can be at some times you're like, oh,
that's just so boring. Like I just want to finish this, but then like it's kind of what I have to
do. So anything turns into work if you do it enough, but I'm not downplaying the fact that it is the
most crazy ridiculous job on this planet. Like that basically part of my job is driving around
Australia. Like that's pretty ridiculous. Yeah, that is the sick part. I do get to do that,
but I think for what, yeah, people see, they see that and they think how good, but a lot of the
work I think behind the scenes is not a lot of people understand, which is cool. Hey,
a bit more fun stuff now. Like we've sort of done the timeline. We talked about all the bits and
pieces that you've gotten, the learnings. Apart from the trip around Australia,
have you got another trip in mind that you sort of rank up there as one of the more fun minds
you've ever had? Ah, I did last year. I was filming for a caravan company. I went Perth
to Port Augusta or Port Lincoln. I always get them confused. And then straight up the guts to
Alice. And we did the Fink Desert Race. Oh, yeah. Like none of us competed or anything,
but you just camp on the side of the track and then from there to Darwin and then Darwin back
around to Perth and the Strait, like Alice, extremely underrated. I think it's very
commercially polished. It's very, everything's very strict. So the town maybe is a bit
nicer than it can be at other times of the year. But even I've been outside of that and it's still
sick. Like the West MacDonald Ranges underrated as camping on inside a gorge on the beach in a
gorge by yourself is just mental. It's so sick out there. And then from Alice all the way up,
there's so many good spots. Like all those clear water limestone springs, like flow through a
bit of springs and bits and pieces like that. So that's all pretty, pretty cool. And I wasn't
aware of a lot of that. I was kind of aware of the stuff that you tick off when you go from
Cape York around and up. And yeah, that's like, if anyone's like, oh, I have to go to Alice
and I'm like, go from the NT. It sounds a bit silly because it is a bit longer. If you go from
South Australia, it's the closest, especially to Uluru. But it's a sick trip and just well
and truly worth it. But I'm a bit different. I know Ronnie does a lot more the long corrugated
roads like the Tannam line, all those. I haven't gotten into that yet. I'm more of a like, I want
every single stop along the journey to be like really cool. So like the Gip for me is like
really cool and Cape York is just unbeatable. Like the forward driving makes every like,
because you do an obstacle. And then you're like, oh, there's a secret waterfall here.
Then you do another river crossing. And then you're like, oh, now there's like a cool spot
we can sit and watch people forward drive. Or you can swim in the river crossing that you just
drove through. Yeah, yeah. But like every stop on that spot is like one of my favorite spots
of every day. And I think a lot of people rush through like in the videos, because it's like
forward drive, drive. So that's all they show. And I'm
guilty of that. If I filmed a video again, I would probably be like, no, this is how you should
actually more so do it. And it's just like hanging out at the river crossing, yarn to some people,
watch them drive through, give them a little clap. I think that's one reason I'd almost be too
scared to do Cape York because everyone sits there and watches you go through. I mean,
I don't know if you've ever like heard, but if you go at the beginning of the wet,
but it's really the end of the dry, all the river crossings are like fun. They're not like
hectic. Yeah, like I think in the BT, which at the time was just like a two inch lift,
one didn't go over the bonnet. It like got up to the grill and was like about to go over.
But like in like a 76 or a 79, like it's not even not even going to tickle the doors really.
And that makes it way more enjoyable because you're not like risking your car the whole time,
unless you drive into a puddle on the front. Yeah, sometimes when you watch videos in Cape
York, that is sometimes how you feel like it's going to be. You feel like every corner is a risk.
Yeah. And I think what you just said, so, you know,
film the four-wheel drive and that's the stuff that people, it's exciting. I love watching it.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I don't know if I've got that in me.
I like the, that stretch around Alice that you're talking about, is it either side,
like that whole South from Alice South is not great. There's some cool views,
cool salt pans and stuff with like islands in them. And it kind of looks like you're on Mars
or something. Like it's pretty sick, but it's like, it's cool to drive. Yeah, okay.
Because that's, so Reagan out back off, off-road NT, like that's his home. And like,
I don't know if you've seen some of the stuff that he's been putting out lately, like, but it's,
it looks, it does look underrated. And he's on a station there. So he shows a fair bit of that,
but he also does some, you know, he'll get that camp and film all that as well.
I've been loving his racing stuff because it's like, it's quite beautiful when it's green
at the moment. Oh yeah. I saw a couple of drone photos and it was like,
proper green everywhere. Is that magic? But I do want to do that. I think Desert Race too.
Oh, 100%. That is, we do it as a podcast.
It's wild when they come past you. You're like, oh, someone's coming. And then you're like,
oh, they're already gone. Yeah. They're just, they're just like, they're honing down. I don't know.
Yeah. That's wicked. Put that on the list. Put that on the list. Oh, sorry.
Sorry, I'm so far away in my little isolation corner.
Not in footy season, but yeah, not in footy season.
It's coming up in it. It's almost like this. Oh yeah, it would be. I think it is right about
now. Hey, yeah. I remember that there was some practice runs going on a couple of weeks ago
because I saw J8 edits. I don't know who they are, but they always film a lot of that stuff
around Australia and they're always at Fink. So I always see their stuff pop up.
Um, best mods you've done to the beat or the 60 series is sort of spoken about.
You've done, but what are your favorite mods? Maybe apart from the canopy,
favorite mods to the BT 50 across its time, top three, top three, if you can, top one would be
my battery system, uh, brand plug, uh, the inner drive adventure. It's not necessarily that system,
but it's like a pre-built and because I've changed that setup in the back four or five times now,
like the, the original setup was like big massive draw to slide out fridge slide. Yep. And I've,
because I had the pre-built system, all I have to do is unbolt it and then I just move it to
wherever I want in the system or in the setup and I kind of just move it around and design it
around it a little bit. But without that, I would have had to relocate a full dual battery system.
Yeah. Four times, which it wouldn't have been fun, but that's only like, or if you're a younger
person and you're like, Oh, this car is temporary, but I want a good battery system. Yeah. Like,
oh, I can take it to my next car and just leave the wiring set up. How, how big and bulky is that?
So the adventure one is the bigger one. So it's probably, oh, I feel like they're quite tall,
hey? Yeah. It's like, I think 650 date, 500 wide. Right. And then the thickness would be,
I'm not too sure. It's pretty, it's pretty narrow, but like it is pretty long, but that's just the
inverter takes up most of that. It's got a bigger inverter. That would definitely be top
one of my favorite. And that's mostly because it's like, yeah, if I went to another car,
I would keep the battery system probably. How long have you had that?
Since I almost first got the car, four years ish. Cool. And if anything ever goes wrong,
whether you can, you just call them up and then they ship you a new part to the next town.
Like I had the little screen break potentially after Cape York. Yeah. And then it got replaced.
Unreal. Which is pretty good. Yeah. Far out. What else? All terrains?
Absolutely. Yep. I currently have muddies on there and they're still good quality muddies.
They're not like super aggressive, but as soon as I put them on there, I was like,
I want my all terrains back and I've got all terrains on the 60 and I'm like, way better.
Yeah. I think people, I think that's good. Is that just the noise?
Yeah. The noise, how they drive, they kind of suck in beach sand, which being from WA majority
of the time, beach sand. And like at really, really high speeds, like if you're overtaking
someone, you can kind of feel the shutter of like the gaps in the tread. I feel like, I don't know
if that's true or not, but it definitely feels worse. You just have more tread, more area touching
the ground. So that would be one. Muddies look sick. And maybe if I lived in Victoria, I would
justify muddies more, but even Northern Queensland, probably justify them even more because you get
so many clay sections. But I think in WA unless you go into power lines and stuff, probably not.
Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. I agree. I think so too. I agree. And they last longer as well.
I've got LTs on now. They're all terrains. Yeah. So I've got mud. This is my first set of muddies
I've ever had. And I kind of, I mean, it's the first land cruise I've ever owned too. So I don't
know how much of it is like, but taking the wheels that you buy it off with. Oh yeah. There
was an unfair comparison. That is a bit unfair, but I do always mean all trains in the Ranger.
And yeah, so comfortable. Yeah. I still think this is comfortable enough. But it's, yeah,
you do notice a little bit. I reckon of that like, yeah, sort of got to hold on a bit more.
Yeah. Yeah. And in the 60, you're already got to hold on a lot. So that's why I went straight
for the all-terrain. Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah. Have you got a third or is that probably the two?
Trying to think. It is tough.
Anything interior? The only thing that I would rave about interior-wise is I got off,
just off eBay, I ordered it. I think it's an Australian company. You know,
well, like your gear shifter or like your auto transmission gear shifter. I got this like,
because it has like a normal center console. I got this like carpet thing you drop over and it's
got all the cutouts and it's got like pockets that go down the transmission tunnel. Yeah.
And it's just carpet and it's just got like a bit of storage. Yeah. And I don't know if the Ranger
has like shiny interior and it gets scratched as shit and it kind of looks bad. So that like
protects it, but then you have like nice pockets just by your leg. Yeah. So for like your receipts,
like if you keep your fuel receipts, just stuff them in there. Yeah. It's not like heaps of
storage, but like my Winch remote lives in there. Just like little bits like that. It's
actually quite nice. It's just handy storage. You don't know your need until you've got the
lost post. Yeah. And you don't have to open your glove box. It kind of just is just like your wallet,
if I'm terrible, take my wallet anywhere. And I can just chuck it in there and I actually see it.
Yeah. Yeah. That's stuff like that. It's pretty nice in the 70 series, if it's a round.
It's, they're a round, but... I have a product that I'm working on for... Look out.
For... I'll start with Land Cruisers and then my car as well, but it will be helpful in that same
context. Okay. I like that. That's an off-camera one, right? Yeah, a little scoop for our patrons.
I want to ask favourite spot in WA, sort of have touch on the north side of things, done a lot of,
you know, busso, that area I'm assuming, Mario River area. Have you got a favourite camp spot?
Or place? Favourite thing to do? I would have like favourite underrated place. Yeah. Would be like
Francis Perron, which is Shark Bay. It's just like a fun, like it's soft sand. It gets pretty right,
like whoopie almost, like you're bouncing for a lot of it. Just kind of underrated. Like the
beaches are cool. The fishing is insane if you're not in like the sanctuary areas. If you just want
fun flicking with like soft plastics, like with kids or whatever, really, really fun. Like you
can catch like 30 fish in a session, just off rocks, like really, really fun. And then
actually favourite spot, like recency bias a little bit, is probably Dirk Hartle. Oh,
oh, you've done it? Yeah, yeah. Sick. I did it by myself, like solo, which was pretty funny.
Like Mrs wasn't with me and it was sick. I call like a, not to go fishing chat, but like a 60
metre snapper, 60 metre snapper off some rocks that I just pulled up and I was like, it looks
like there'd be fish here, drop down. And every single time it hit the bone was just like getting
smashed by snapper. But then I realised I was like, I'm on like a 20 metre cliff here by myself. I
can't get this fish up here. So I ended up just like walking it to where I was hoping I was going
to get it up, like very carefully because I was like, I don't fancy ending up in the drink here
where it's called Shark Bay. And then I kind of was like, no, I'm just going to like let it break
off and the hook just pulled. But then the drive is pretty chill. Like it's corrugated and rough.
It's not Fraser Island, like full driving by any stretch, but it's about as cool as it can be,
like off the coast of WA, east side, super nice blue water. Once again, catching flaties,
like walking around, really nice campsites, limits of the people that can be on the island.
And every campsite is your campsite. No one else. There's not like numbers. If you book,
I can't remember any of the names, you get that whole thing yourself.
Yeah. Cause what is it? Is it like 15 cars total?
Something like that.
It's not many, is it?
Yeah. Not very many at all.
Which is awesome. I mean, that's great. That is another bucket list item for me.
Yeah. Maybe, maybe before think even.
Mate, if you go, I'll come.
Yeah, mate.
I'll come in a hard batch, right?
Yeah. I feel like that's a bit of a, like a rider passage sort of trip almost.
I feel like not many people do it.
Yeah.
Which is kind of good.
Yeah. 100%.
Yeah. I mean, it is a mission. Like the state point trek is actually like kind of a, it's a big day.
Yeah.
And then you camp there and the camp honestly there is amazing. Like where you get the barge from.
Like that's a sick camp spot in its own.
Yeah. Right.
But yeah, if you, if you go, I'll, absolutely.
Yeah.
I'll mean that.
I think we need to make a trip then.
Feel that?
Put it up.
They don't be like 60, get the 60 going.
Get the 60 going.
I'll bring the 60.
We need a bar because we, we, we want to buy a podcast car.
Yeah.
Like a.
Potty patrol.
Yeah. Potty patrol.
We're kind of because it just plays on a little bit.
But that, that was like my idea.
And that was when we had three investors.
Yeah.
Now, now it's my, maybe.
Now you're fronting it all, man.
This is Zookie.
Oh, the Zookie.
I sent you a Wrangler the other day that you weren't too happy about.
Didn't like it.
I don't like the Wranglers.
Hell like Wrangler.
Too old Wrangler.
I would personally probably never drive one.
If you were in America.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I don't really want this car either, but it's affordable.
Yeah.
And it's set up to do some stuff already.
We wouldn't have to do a hate to it.
I'm assuming there's going to be some issues.
But Jaden shut me down.
Sorry, mate.
Uh, that's okay.
Surely you can just stick a bomb at like tire power or something.
Oh, so that's just the two of you.
That's what you call me.
Sure.
Tire power, it's rain taper, cat gear.
Throw it on.
I need the terrain tamer hookup.
Yeah.
Mate.
Oh, we've got it.
Come to the right place.
You've come to the right spot indeed.
And now that you've sent in a wicked tip,
though, you've put yourself in the running.
All right.
Now this is talk about,
have you got anything else you want to talk about?
Like, well, I was just going to say,
we'll go to what's next and then around the fire pit.
Okay.
Oh, hold on.
Let me interrupt.
Yeah, go.
There is way better spots than both the spots that I just said.
Yep.
But they're just like cool to me specifically.
That's what I'm after.
Like broom out of broom, all of that.
There is way cooler spots.
There is a lot of better spots,
but I just think...
No, that's what I'm after.
Well, these are your favorite spots.
But like, these are just your favorite spots.
Really cool.
Yeah.
You know?
I mean, the Gib would be my favorite,
but they're like just cooler.
I don't know.
Nah, that's perfect.
Or cooler to me, not really in general.
So two more things I want to ask before we go to,
like around the fire pit,
which is a bit more just quick fiery.
Questions.
Yeah.
One thing I want to know is,
do, if you receive any negative like feedback,
first of all, do you get it?
Great if you say no.
I used to get it a lot,
especially when I was building the canopy camper.
But then a large percentage of them at the final result
were like, it kind of makes sense.
Like it's not for me, but it makes sense.
But also if someone's coming and hating for me,
I typically am not coming like divisively back to them.
I'm just like, yeah, fair enough,
but this is why I'm doing it.
And I'll try and not be like aggressive,
because it doesn't do good for anyone really.
Person probably just gets what they want at the end of the day,
which is making me hell mad.
You've answered the next question that I had,
was how you deal with it.
And that's, that's perfect.
That's all I need to hear about that.
Cause it's, Jayden had some fun with someone.
Yeah, I like it.
I like it.
Jayden loves the negative feedback.
Cause he got more on the back of it.
My friends get on it.
My friends will hop in sometimes and go off.
But like, obviously the person doesn't know they're my friends.
So it's actually funny out there.
But they get more mad a lot of it.
Like my misses especially gets way more frustrated
than I do on style roads.
I just like going back on, thanks for listening, mate.
Thanks for engaging with me on the content.
You've chosen this.
Now, tell us what you can about it.
If you can't tell us much, that's fine.
But the, the film.
The film is notational.
Oh yeah.
You're in.
You sort of did mention it.
But yeah, so you're, you're involved.
What have you got coming up for that?
And can you, well, basically give us what you can
in terms of what you're planning.
I mean, I can talk about the entire trip,
but I suppose I should leave some sort of.
To the imagination.
Imagination.
So you like people will want to watch it.
But I don't know if that people know what the TFI is.
Probably not.
No, they may have heard about it from a few others.
But we talked about it a little bit last year
with Sarah and Keelan.
We're on it.
That's right.
But if you want to get us to run through.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
10 Seconds Spiel, 10 creators in Australia.
Like they don't have to be Australia.
Well, they're normally Australian,
but they can be anywhere in the world.
You make a 20 minute documentary,
100 grand cash prize,
if the public votes you as the best film.
Yep.
What else?
There's something else important that I'm missing.
Oh, and you just like pay to watch all the films.
So you get to watch the 10 films,
like five bucks or something.
Yep.
And then you vote for your favorite.
I'm going to broom to somewhere near broom.
We'll say that.
And I'm doing like not really a film about myself as much.
It'll be more about me getting to go on one of those trips
that every Aussie has probably gone.
That looks pretty fun.
Yeah.
So talking like potentially hand-spearing,
some like throw-spearing, some fish.
Yep.
Some tracks on some like land
that you can't really just go drive on.
Yep.
Be like driving in some floodplains.
And it's not going to be like a mad for driving story.
Yeah, yeah.
It will be like we'll the 60 make it story.
Yeah.
But it will just be hanging out with some crew
that I'm pretty keen to meet.
Yeah, we can.
And he was just like, oh, so what do you want to do?
And I was like, I don't know, catch some fish,
cook up on the fly.
And he was like, mate, we'll get any fish.
We'll get some muddies.
He was like, we'll have a feast.
And I was like, I can't do that on a good day.
So that sounds like a win already.
Whether my video is good or not,
I get to eat some mud crabs on the beach.
Like, that's kind of the gist of it.
But the car will play a bigger part in it.
And I will as well.
But it will be more so just like me frothing out
on the experience that like, I'm sure if you've,
like, I suppose, oh, what's his name?
Oh, I don't want to not go into detail.
But like, you just kind of see shit like that on the TV
when you're a kid.
And you're like, I would love to go experience that.
Yeah.
That's not real.
You've got Jacob, the spin effects pigeon,
going with you.
The spin effects pigeon, where does this come from?
He called himself it, didn't he?
Yeah, I think he called himself it on our way.
Jacob obviously came with us to film
on the Gunbarrow Highland trip.
And yeah, coined the name spin effect pigeon
for himself.
I think you don't even really know the story.
Because I think he was always in the spin effects
filming, hiding away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there was a bird there.
There was a, yeah.
The spin effects pigeon birds up there.
Yeah, there's a long story.
There's a bit of bats.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's anyway.
I'm sure, I'm sure the pigeon will tell you or so.
Yeah.
But you're, so it's just the two of you going up
and then your mate crew up there.
Yeah.
Yeah, cool.
Do you know, who else, can you tell us who you're,
like, who else is in it?
Up, who are, who are we up against?
The other creators.
They've all been released.
Um, few that we might know.
Uh.
I can hear Jayden Toph and he's probably getting them up.
So Santa Snow is like mates of mine.
Like I met them up last year.
So they're in it.
They're, um, what's it, uh, James, Jim.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, they're from Bag of Smarsh.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, they're up from like just like the edge of the mountains.
Where I'm from.
Yeah.
Well, I don't, I'm not sure about, um,
I'm not sure about his partner.
Uh, I don't want to say that.
Yeah.
Better cut that.
Yeah, cut that.
But Santa Snow, the, um.
I'm pretty sure it's.
No, it's not Haley.
That's Jim.
It's Jimmie.
James.
Yeah.
It is James.
Yeah.
James and Chelsea.
James and Chelsea.
So James is from Bag of Smarsh.
He's a couple of years younger than me, but yeah.
He, um, yeah, they, they're going.
So they're, they're going.
Oh, they've put on that instead.
So they've gone to Arnhem Land.
Sick.
Which is insane.
Have they still got the high top Troopy?
Oh no, not high top.
Just normal.
They, I think James did a full like Resto.
Yeah.
Okay.
Or at least a lot large part of it.
Yeah.
Uh, they're in it.
Cool.
Yeah.
They're in it.
Uh, Jamie Volga, who's a WA boy, but he does most of that jet skiing stuff.
Okay.
So I don't know what he's doing.
Yep.
Oh, shit.
There's, ah, what's, there's a dude that's sponsored by Monster Energy.
Oh.
And he's friends with a guy called Wesson, who's from America and has like over a
million subscribers on YouTube.
So that's a fun, fun person to go off against.
So I'm expecting big things because I would imagine Monster has some budget for him.
Yeah.
But he seems like an absolute legend.
He was like, he does like full like drifts in like a big massive, like Chevy Ute.
That's not like massive suspension, but it has like slicks on the back.
And then he has like the ties that spins green smoke.
So funny.
And then I feel so bad.
Natotography.
Oh yeah.
Sean Scott, a surf, I used to follow him back when I was a kid, like younger.
I still follow him, but I used to like watch his stuff.
I think I've met him.
Proper.
He's sponsored by like Loader.
So he's in a big fancy caravan.
So the opposite of what I'm doing.
I swear I've met that guy.
You could have.
I don't know who you've met.
I don't know.
He shoots like a lot of stuff.
Like he shoots for like legit stuff.
I've heard, I've definitely heard of him.
Jamie Vogler.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mention that guy.
Brent Draper.
Brent Draper.
Sam Isles.
Oh.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Bill Knobble.
Bill Knobble.
Yeah.
Headspace Campers.
They always have one company in there.
Another one.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
I think.
Luxifer Kyle.
The who's sponsored by Monster.
Oh yeah.
Olivia J.D.
Oh yeah.
She's from like the TV.
She does like a TV show and some radio stuff.
Okay.
She's like a more traditional media kind of person.
And then a guy called Corey Kerwin.
Yeah.
That guy sounds like a vlogger.
I hope he goes.
Sounds good.
That's a cool name.
Cool name.
That guy sounds like a vlog.
No that's wicked.
Oh so that's coming up soon though.
You'll be heading away shortly.
Yeah.
Like next week or.
Oh cool.
Waking a bit away.
Looking forward to.
That'll just be wicked to see what everyone comes up with.
There's some really cool people in there.
Yeah.
It's a great idea.
It's a very big spread.
Sick.
Like it is a sick concept isn't it.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Right.
We're jumping around the fire today.
J-Doggy.
Yep.
I reckon we're.
Do you want to have you got stuff that you need to reel out here?
Or is it all here?
No that's all there.
If you want to read that out.
They're all questions from our audience.
I haven't got any names attached to them.
But we'll just read them out.
It's always a little bit hard to read the names.
It's hard.
Yeah.
I can read them right.
Right.
So.
Yeah.
A lot of underscores and just.
Oh yeah.
And 69s and stuff like that.
What's one thing.
So these are a bit more quick for you.
Yeah.
What's one thing you carry on every trip
that most people wouldn't think to bring.
I'm pretty bad for this.
Packed a gear bag maybe.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Now I feel like I should actually have a good answer.
If you don't it's totally.
Mosquito coils.
Oh yeah.
Oh nice.
Because it's sometimes you're in a campsite
that smells a bit like cow shit.
And you can light them up and it makes it smell a bit better.
And then you get most of the way.
Yeah I like that.
If you could only go to one destination
or go on one trip for the rest of your life.
So you had to keep doing that over and over again.
Where would it be.
If we get the road trip in between I'll just say
Darwin because there's so much to do that.
Sweet.
You can go.
And Darwin's sick as well.
You could go the long way via
New South Wales and Queensland.
What is the biggest lesson you've learned
through starting your own business.
And if there's any advice you've kind of touched on it.
But is there anything biggest lesson.
And may not be ticket.
Don't get unexcited by your idea.
If you're originally really excited by it
and you ran it past a couple people
and they're like oh no it's a sick idea.
You're going to do a lot of work before it becomes real.
So try and keep the excitement going.
Love that.
Love that.
I'm trying to design my own type of bag for travel
and I'm struggling to get the design right.
I've got some designs from a couple of different designers
and they haven't hit the mark yet.
So I'm wondering if it's worth it to learn a program
and do it myself.
Or if I should just keep trying to get the right design
through the designer.
A few words in that one.
But any tips.
Any tips appreciated.
So I suppose when does it come time to just
I would say like you don't like I didn't have
like a proper 3D model.
Like I could have made up a proper 3D model
which I don't know if that's what it is referring to.
It's like getting a physical model mate.
Not sure but yeah.
But literally like you can hand draw like a document
I sent to my supplier just before I had she
I had hand drawn over the top of stuff.
So she can like see it now modified.
And then she'll just put a line and be like
yeah that makes sense but we can't so like this.
I'm like yeah no worries try this instead.
So you can be a bit rough and scrappy with it.
Just make sure it's clear.
So if there's something on the design
you don't like circular in red draw a little line
be like yo fix this.
Yeah okay.
Yep.
How do you feel about travel with the prices
of everything at the moment not just fuel going up.
Oh sorry not just fuel going up and up.
I suppose is there have you had to
or even for the trip coming up to broom.
Like is there anything that you've had to adjust
in that sense or you just
is what it is get on with it.
For this specifically because it's for the competition
it is what it is a little bit.
But like I would say a lot of people will
you go to the shops you buy all your meat.
Yep.
Buy like bulk if you want mince buy like
the biggest pack they have.
Yep.
And then just literally separate it out.
Like that's what man my ministers did.
Yep.
Buy everything the biggest that they have for the cheapest.
And then you just separate it.
Yep.
So if you prep work.
Yeah.
Evolve but.
Yeah because a lot of people will be like
oh we only need 500 grams of this.
So they'll just buy like four 500 grams
but you end up wasting 15 bucks.
Yep.
Which is a lot of money today.
Like that's a.
It's the same as a steak to go and buy a big slab
and just cut it up.
Local butchers or anything.
Sausages are local butchers like when you get up north.
They're like a meal because they just have like those
giant local ones.
So yeah.
How how like very open question this one too.
But the the fuel stuff like how do you see that.
Do you think it's affected probably like
this industry as a whole.
Yeah.
Obviously it has.
But yeah that's the wrong question.
That that is just so.
I'll change the course.
No you don't.
I'll change the question to I don't.
I think it will but I think the bigger effect is like.
I'm sure you've seen that bloke that keeps talking about
like all the free campsites that are now no longer free.
Yeah.
From COVID time.
I feel like that's ruined it way more.
Because you used to just be able to go.
Drive an hour away and get a free camp for the weekend.
But now you're like oh you have to pay 15 dollars.
Yeah.
But there's nothing there.
Yeah.
It should just be free.
Yeah.
But campsites even being more expensive now.
Like they've doubled tripled in price in some places.
In Coral Bay we got stung like over 70 dollars a night.
Which is insane.
For an unpowered campsite.
At one of the parks.
70 bucks.
Yep.
That's insane.
Just to have a swim in Bill's Bay.
In Bill's Bay.
Am I right.
Crazy.
I like this best campfire meal you've ever had.
This is a weird one.
It's called enchilada pasta.
Oh.
So you basically get like chicken breast.
Fajita seasoning.
Yeah.
And then like what's the like the tomato paste.
What's that called.
Which is like a big one in the big job.
Oh I like the bolognese sauce almost.
Yeah.
But it's just plain tomato.
Why can't I think of.
It's just tomato paste.
Is it passata.
Oh passata.
Oh okay yeah.
Yeah so just plain passata.
And then you like pour it in once you've cooked the chicken.
What was that other word you said before that was on the.
Top of your car.
That look.
Oh patina.
Oh patina.
Patina passata.
Because there's a lot of keywords coming in.
He's going to go use that word later and he's going to accidentally say passata.
If I get two of those in the same sentence you only.
So and then yeah so you pour that in and then it tastes kind of mexican-y.
And then the like the wraps you would normally use for tacos.
Yeah.
You like chop them into like pasta strips.
Mix it in.
Oh and then our heaps of cheese on top.
Close the lid.
Six.
Slaps.
I've never had that.
That's just a tiktok meal.
That feels right up your alley actually that one.
Yeah easy.
Because after the Big Mac.
Yeah yeah yeah.
It's just so easy and it tastes pretty good.
Sick.
Okay.
I like that.
I'm going to try that next time I go.
Love that.
Mate that's pretty much that was it for around the fire pit.
That was actually a leap by you because normally around the fire pit.
We'd like it's not quick fire.
It's never quick fire.
It's never quick fire.
It's never quick fire.
It's never quick fire.
I tried to.
I tried to.
I tried to.
That was good.
The fire is dead by the time we finished.
You did say that 30 seconds was your like.
That's a sweet spot for the sound bites for that.
I just want to I want to scan over this run sheet really quickly in case I have missed
anything while we got sort of going in the middle there.
Well is there anything that we didn't touch on that you wanted to you were
thinking we would touch on or anything you want to say just to finish up here?
Because we have been going for about an hour and a half here.
Have we?
Mm-hmm.
Sorry.
So you both felt like five minutes and.
Sorry mate.
An hour and a half because I was like fretting I was going to say something wrong the whole time.
We always do this with guest interviews and we like because we try to stick to like a
sort of a 45 to an hour podcast episode usually.
And as soon as we get a guest in it feels like it goes like that.
Yeah.
And then Jaden I haven't even looked once.
Yeah.
But Jaden's just like keeps a timeline for me on the numbers.
Yeah.
And yeah.
Honestly fine.
I got nothing on today.
I go gym and go rock climbing.
Beautiful.
Bouldering.
Bouldering.
Now we're going to be stuck for a lot of time.
Hang on a second.
Another hour here.
Where are you bouldering?
Up in Wangara near where Westie's Cafe.
Right.
Yeah.
So Westie's Cafe.
Westie another can of worms.
No.
Is that a bouldering?
I don't know too many people that are into that.
Bro it's so fun.
Do you guys like games like gaming like back when you were a kid?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Like don't mind a game.
Yeah.
It's just that but real life basically.
Yeah.
So you're just like because it's leveled like numbered and then you start off with the easy one
and you'll get like in your first session because you're both pretty fit.
You might get to like a five in my gym.
We don't use the normal system.
So you get to a five and then you just can't do the five.
You come back the next time.
The five is easy.
Now the six impossible.
And it's like you're just playing a real life video game.
So you like this is a gym specifically for 100%.
So we just pay like a monthly gym membership.
How have you got into that?
It was during COVID.
We just got me and my mates were playing games because you're stuck in your house or whatever.
And we're just like oh let's do something fun together instead of just
rotting our brains a little bit.
So we went and did that.
And then we've been going for like years since.
So we're not good by any stretch.
Yeah, but that's I'm skinny and then an even skinnier kid will walk in
and he'll just do the thing you've been trying to do for the last three hours.
Like it's nothing.
And you just get humbled by a 14 year old boy.
That's a really cool hobby to have picked up.
It's so fun.
Yeah.
How's your like your strength here now?
And it would be pretty good.
Like you're kind of like it's weird.
It's like it's the most like stupid strength.
Like the most like weird group of muscles that you will never use.
But it is really fun.
Like you would both froth it.
You would both upgrade.
Yeah, I feel like I want to come now.
Do you do?
All right.
Well, you come on, mate.
Mate, how are you going to with what time?
I thought you can out of footy season.
Wrong way.
Out of footy season.
It's a good way.
You're out of footy.
Do you do other gym work as well?
Yeah.
So we would do like normally like weighted pull-ups or something.
Yeah.
Like out of just doing the climbing.
And like some finger training and stuff.
So you do the climbing into weighted pull-ups.
Weighted pull-ups to help train.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like body weight.
That's a fair bit of work.
That's um, it's fun.
It's cool, man.
Yeah.
Weighted pull-ups is the best you do it.
He did.
But then now footy season's back.
He's off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how are you going to get it, mate?
He frothed it because he's also like I have to get it.
Yeah.
And he gets stuck into one climb.
He's like I must do it.
It's funny.
It's great.
Hey, that's sick.
That's awesome.
Bouldering.
Yeah.
Have you ever done it?
Outdoor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've done one like pretty big outdoor climb.
Yeah.
But one of like a friend of a friend that we became friends
while we're doing Our Life of Australia.
Yeah.
He trains.
He does like team building courses.
Right.
For like corporate and stuff.
Yep.
And he was like, hey Corey, like do you want to come for a climb?
Do you have your shoes?
And I was like, I do have my shoes.
And then we just did like it wasn't a hard climb by any stretch.
But it was like a hundred and something meter face.
And he was like, oh yeah, we're just going to climb this.
And it was like multi-pitch.
It's called like Trad.
So you put the gear, you would see it on movies.
Yeah.
Put the thing in the wall.
Yeah.
So you put the stuff in the wall.
Oh yeah, that's a multi-pitch.
Trad is exactly what they were doing.
And then so he climbs up, puts the stuff in the wall.
And then he like un-belaying him.
And then he gets up, hooks up to like some points.
Then I climb behind and he belays me up.
Wow.
See that's where I probably.
That's his job to train people to do it.
So he's got the like teaching points of like, all right.
Like obviously you're never un-clipping yourself from anything.
Yeah.
But it's like, but then to remove the gear.
Like if you do this, it doesn't work.
Do this.
And it's like very good, concise instructions.
The only reason I did it.
Where was this?
Yeah.
Ah, the Grampians.
Which is also a really good spot.
It's funny you say that because.
So we used to camp a little bit in the Grampians back in the day.
And then.
Also an underrated spot.
Yeah, it's pretty beautiful.
Hallsgat is one of my favorite towns in Australia.
But I haven't, I didn't know bouldering was a thing in there.
And I was on a plane once from.
I don't know.
I'm going to say we were going to New Zealand because I met some Kiwis on this flight.
And they said that they'd just been to.
Because I was like the only other people I've heard of bouldering was those people.
Oh, that's so.
And they'd been to the Grampians.
And I was like, that's crazy.
They've actually flown over from New Zealand because there's a bit of a mecca there apparently
in the Grampians.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
The face that we did there, he was just like, there's this whole wall is just like hundreds
of clients.
Was it?
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
And then people do do outdoor bouldering, which is like how it sounds.
You climb like a small boulder.
And then they'll just have the crash pads and they like throw them out.
I've seen videos of that like competitions.
I've not done that though, because I'm pretty tall and lanky.
And if you add uneven ground into me falling off a high wall, like I've done my PCL before.
So that's asking for me to do something like that.
Yep, fair enough.
Yep.
All right, that's it.
I feel like if you had it got into bouldering at the start, I would have directed that whole
conversation.
The bouldering.
No one would have listened ever.
When we start off a new podcast, I think we go into rock climbing bouldering.
And Corey is our host.
Right, done.
All right, we'll leave it there.
We've taken up way too much of your time.
Appreciate you coming in.
Yeah, it's been, I know this was, I'm not sure when Jayden got in contact with you,
but it feels like it's happened pretty quick, which is cool.
Looking forward to seeing how the 60s series goes.
Looking forward to seeing the film's invitational.
Yeah, the video that you produce, because I know the spin effects pigeon does do some
quality work as well.
Absolutely does.
So seeing your two brains kind of together would be great.
But mate, all the best.
Appreciate you coming in.
Maybe we have to do it.
If everyone likes the podcast right now, I can come back and do a debrief of all the
shenanigans that happens on the.
Oh, absolutely.
On the trip.
I'd love to hear about that.
And I'd love to actually get Jacob in.
Even if everyone hates the podcast, we'll get you back.
We're going to probably need you more than you need us, to be honest.
But yeah, seriously, all the best for that.
I hope you guys are all.
It's a massive gain, I suppose, if you get hold of that.
So get on, have a look at that.
Vote for Corey, because I know how to be good gear.
Do you want to stick around for five more minutes?
Yes.
Once we wrap up here.
And also go check out Packed Gear.
Packed Gear, yeah.
And while you're there, jump on our website and just drop by a t-shirt.
Yeah, by a t-shirt.
The one that just fell off the toilet.
By a t-shirt to put in your packed bag.
Yeah. Oh, mate. Yeah, it's all happening.
Bye. Thanks, brother.
Very sure.
All the good. Thank you.
That's great.
About this episode
Corey Kirwen joins The 4WD Podcast to talk DIY four-wheel-drive camping builds aimed at people who just bought their first car, plus how he learns as he goes. The conversation then shifts to Packed Gear—an “unrolling closet” organizer with removable toiletries pouches and section dividers—and how custom bag setups beat messy duffels. Corey also shares early 4WD history (a Suzuki Vitara), 60 Series Land Cruiser learning and mods, and real-world recovery stories from floods and winch electrics.
Content creator, YouTuber, entrepreneur, 4WD modifier, adventurer... the list goes on. Corey Kirwen joins us on the podcast this week to talk custom builds that aren't for everyone, flooding his BT-50, customising his 60 Series LandCruiser and the story behind one of the coolest camping bags on the market. Heaps happening on this one!
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