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Hi, I'm Gary and this is Episode 276 of EV Musings, podcast about renewables, electric vehicles and
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things that are interesting to electric vehicle owners. And on the show today, we'll be looking
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at the London to Brighton EV rally.
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Our main topic of discussion today is the London to Brighton EV rally. Regular listeners to this
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show will know that for the last three years, I've participated in an event in the early summer
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called the London to Brighton EV rally. Now, driving from London to Brighton is nothing new.
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They've been doing it literally for decades, but what sets this apart from other rallies of this
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sort is that the vehicles are all electric. Now, when the rally itself started several years ago,
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a journey from London to Brighton with an electric vehicle was still something of a novelty,
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depending on where you started. There was the distinct possibility that you wouldn't be able to
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do the journey without having to stop for a charge. Back then, the charging infrastructure
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wasn't quite as good as it is now or as plentiful, so whenever you came across a charge point, you
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find a queue of people on the rally waiting to charge. Now, obviously, things have changed a
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lot since then. The ranges are longer, and the charging is more plentiful and quicker,
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and with very few exceptions, there's rarely a need to actually stop to charge on the run.
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But the rally itself has morphed alongside the EV uptake, and it's a different thing now to
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what it was when it started. So, to talk about this a little bit, I want to bring in Bill Murray,
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not that one, the man behind the London to Brighton EV rally.
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Hi, I'm Bill Murray. I'm part of Electric Connect. It's an agency that looks at all things EV,
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mobility, and sustainability focused. We run the London to Brighton rally, the EV rally.
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We also run the Powered Up conference, and we do a series of charge and drive events,
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which tries to entice people into EVs for the first time, look at charging, look at infrastructure,
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and how they can best adopt a better lifestyle.
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Fantastic, and we will come through and talk about most of those things individually, but
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I'd like to ask people for the first time when they come on the podcast, I'd like to ask them,
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what's their EV story? How did you come to like your vehicles?
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Well, I was involved in 2011 in the Brighton to London EV concept rally that the RAC were putting
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on. So they decided that they were going to disprove this fact, I think that EVs would ever catch
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on. Hilarious, because we had to have Aprius, the very earliest Tesla and a Mercedes test van
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that was brought from Germany, which had a range of 40 miles and took about a week and a
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half to charge. And we had a fabulous time. I mean, it was a concept which they wanted to disprove,
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but actually, in a way, we all came together and we had a big party at the Grand Hotel after it had,
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no, before it started and then afterwards we ended up in London. And from then on, really,
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I know that Robert Llewellyn was skirting around the event, and I did it with a couple
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of friends of mine that worked in Brighton Council. And it was just that I just felt free.
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I felt it wasn't bogged down by the motor industry as a whole because we were doing something new.
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So I got my first Zoe and when it first came out, I couldn't charge that either.
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I had to keep taking it back to the garage to charge it. But even that, just,
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I mean, you know what it's like, driving for the first time, that buzz, that feeling,
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that clean kind of energy that nothing else compares. And my dad had E-Type Jags and Aston
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Martins and he was a welder. So he had a lot of stuff that kind of, he was a showy person.
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And so I grew up, literally, I had petrol from the teat. And I felt like I'd found myself,
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I don't know, it's a pretty weird feeling, but I just loved it, loved the feeling,
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the exhilaration and really since 2011, I've never looked back.
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So notwithstanding what you've just said about the RAC and the Brighton to London,
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talk to me about how you got involved then in sort of swapping that round and making it London to
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Brighton and the origin of that actual event. Yeah. I mean, I was working with Tom Druitt who
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ran the Big Lemon Bus Company, the first electric bus company, fully electric bus company
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in the UK. And we were sat in the back of my car. It was 2019, thinking about things we could do.
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We were working on a development project in Brighton. I'd worked in PR many times,
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I've been a journalist for a long time. And we both thought it'd be nice,
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he wanted to showcase his buses and to see what they can do. So he had a vested interest
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in making something, not for profit, interest, but just a way of showcasing what he was doing.
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I had an event experience and I could say worked a bit for the BBC and sort of doing stuff all over
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the place for different commissions and stuff. So it kind of felt like a fun thing to do.
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And also London to Brighton is kind of at least 59 miles, but it summons that interest.
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People think of Genevieve or scooters lined up along Brighton Seafront.
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So for me, it was a way of updating what had been going on for about 175 years.
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It's certainly an iconic event. I mean, the whole, the original London to Brighton rally,
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and as you say, it's got the connotation to be the Genevieve and the mods and the
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rockers and that sort of stuff. But you've kind of, you've made it just that little bit
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different by putting in the electric aspect of that. So what we should think, I mean, obviously
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there's a couple of ways you could do this. You could have said, right, we'll just get as
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many electric vehicles as we can, we'll start them here, we'll end them there,
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and it'll be a nice day out. But you didn't quite do that. You went a little bit further.
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Talk to me a little bit about some of the quirks and the foibles and the little
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things that you're putting to make it unique. Yeah, good point, good question.
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We wanted to have an experience. So even then, this is six years ago, I felt that if we laid on
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something that, you know, for 40 quid, whatever it costs to, you know, to join there and then you
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got your breakfast in London, you came together as a group, bearing in mind, we've got about 100
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teams taking parts as 100 cars, you know, it's a fairly decent size. But from the outset,
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even from the night before, in London, we had to get together, there was drinks,
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there was a kind of socialization, it felt a bit like that gumball, cannonball kind of feeling
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about it that, although it was only 59 miles, it was a gentle look at how we save energy,
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because obviously this isn't a race, this is an energy trial. So back then, you know,
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it was like see which ones can form the best. And we wanted to give people breakfast and set
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them off on their way, it's how they start, because we want to get them bright and early,
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so then we thought, give them lunch, because when they're here, keep them together, you know,
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Brighton's quite a big place, we hire the whole seafront, but it's nice to have that feeling
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that you're all together in one union, put on some stands and stalls, initially, we didn't know,
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we'd grow into having huge concept stands from rounds like BYD and Ford. And then in the evening,
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have an awards party that people wanted to go to, so the first one was at the Grand Hotel.
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And people were coveting the awards, you know, we had Mark Williams from Farshow and
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Allison Ferns from BBC, who's been our constant presenter for the whole thing,
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Charlie Bournemouth on the first year, even had Mark Leicester who played Oliver,
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who's a big EV fanatic. We put on music, we put on the feeling that you achieved something,
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because, you know, six years ago, it was still on the cusp of whether it was going to take off,
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you know, whether charging infrastructure would catch up, you and I know how far this has come.
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So I wanted to do something that people could really come away from the weekend thinking,
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I had a cracking time in Brighton, it's very hard not to have a good time in Brighton.
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And the seafront lends itself to that feeling of, you know, everyone's seen the seafront,
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they've watched Quadrophenia or they've, you know, they've episodes of Grace,
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they're all filmed here. So I felt that there was something that, you know,
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let them have a bit of Brighton as well. So we're the only event allowed to cross
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Westminster Bridge in procession. So we have all the cards coming from Westminster Bridge,
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we film it, I work closely with Westminster Council. And it's been accepted as a kind
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of a standard event. So it's an annual event, people covered and I think now we've got
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a nice selection of self-builds again. We've got retrofits and we've got, you know,
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brand new cars and everyone else. And our rally faithful have been to Paris with us,
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they've been to Geneva with us and they've been to Amsterdam with us. So, you know,
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we've carried on the challenge, like I say, I was in Paris this weekend,
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and scoping some things out in Dieppe and Paris, potentially for another future run over
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there. So we've really carefully looked at every element that people can enjoy.
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I want to come back to, you know, the Paris aspect to that later on.
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When the London Brighton EV rally first started, it was one of those things where
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there wasn't, you know, a greater than zero probability that certain vehicles wouldn't
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actually make the whole distance from London to Brighton. That's with very, very few
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exceptions. That's not the case now. So do you think that the nature of the rally has changed now?
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Because it's not, quote unquote, an endurance test. It's a drive in the, what's usually the
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lovely summer sun. How have you kind of modified the event to take into account the fact that
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it's not as much of a distance or an endurance challenge as it used to be with some of the
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earlier EVs? Yeah, good point. Again, I think it's the fact there's only 59 miles,
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so people could do it as accessible. We're not all about grand tours and very expensive cars.
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We're about people wanting to either get in, find that information on and just have some fun.
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So we've introduced Charge and Drive, which is our test drive brand. And so, you know,
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along that we did 400 test drives at the rally last year. We did a separate charge and drive
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event which had another 350 test drives. So it was a way of just easily getting people
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away from showrooms into cars. Sometimes showrooms are quite imposing and, you know,
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people feel a bit intimidated. And if you're going for EV for the first time, I'm not saying that,
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you know, dealerships are obviously key to us, but it's an easier way of just finding out
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for the first time if it's for you. Because some people don't like the acceleration. Some
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people don't like the handling. Some people think it's a bit tricky, you know? And,
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you know, there is a power element there which you haven't had from your 12-year-old Ford Focus,
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you know, TDCI. You've probably had something, you know, that wouldn't pull you out of bed,
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whereas they get into something which is nippy, zippy, and, you know, kind of different.
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So the rally, I think, has evolved into something that people can really attend. And
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we're free to attend. So we had 32,000 people come along to see from last June
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on the Solstice weekend. So it's a busy weekend for Brian anyway. Because we close the road,
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it becomes more of a spectacle. So we've got stunt shows, we've got music, presenters,
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people cross the line, and they come into the, sort of, what do we call it, park fermé.
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It's, yeah, it's just a nice way of people showing off their cars as well. So if we've got
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a lot of retro fits and we've got a lot of, you know, sort of rebuilds and self-builds,
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it's a nice way of showing them off in a setting which is pretty unique. No one else,
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you know, there are other rallies around the country, but they're more for like fleets and
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people that maybe, you know, like have bigger budgets, you know, we're 40 quid. And if you've
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got a classic car, it's free. So we give you free entry, you know, if you've got anything
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that's a retro fit or a classic car, we don't charge it because we want to showcase
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what can be recycled and reused. And you and I know that the next big phase in EV is the
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used car market. Oh, 100%. 100%. And I mean, the big thing I have on this podcast is the fact
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that there is, and we're in it, there's an EV bubble and everyone inside the bubble knows and
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understands EVs and the benefits. And I think that originally a lot of people participate in the rally
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probably had the same feeling. They were in the bubble, but you're trying to expand the event
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to more and more people. And you talked about 30 or 1000 people coming through and hundreds of
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test drives. Are you gathering any data for how many people who've never driven an electric
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vehicle before are actually attending these events and doing test drives? What sort of data
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are you getting out of that? So we had a charge and drive event, part of the rally and obviously
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the standalone event, 63% of the people attending had never driven an EV before,
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or even considered it. So well over half of people attending had never driven.
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And for Brighton, which is a pretty progressive city, you know, it's got a good infrastructure
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and you've got Believe, Blink and Charge, you're putting in thousands of chargers, rumored to be
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over six, maybe 7,000 chargers in the city. The fact that people haven't driven the cars
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is staggering. Yeah. I mean, I talked about the bubble and I keep having to remind myself that,
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you know, there are what, 30 million cars on the UK roads and the vast majority of
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the people who are driving those have never even sat in an electric car, never mind driven them.
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And I think it's events like yours, especially the, you know, the test drive options that you have there
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and the separate event where you had the people come down, I attended that as well.
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You know, I think they're brilliant to be able to bring people in and say, look,
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there's no pressure. You've got half a dozen different vehicles you can try. You'd
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want to try the BYD, try the BYD, want to do that, you know, absolutely fantastic. So
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kudos on that. Well done. Are you finding it easier or harder to get the
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dealers to come down and help with the efforts that you're making?
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I think it's becoming more dealer based now. So OEMs have set the things up, you know,
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I mean, BYD is a great example of, you know, we've worked with them for the last two years.
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They are now empowering their dealerships. And I think they're looking at how they
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provide feedback information. Geely is the new contender to the market and they've been really
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helpful with us. And, and certainly I think we'll see lots of activity with them and obviously
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they're associated with LEVC. So I think that they're two big brands that I think have showcased how
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you start with OEM and then move into dealer led activitations. Ford's the same, you know,
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but Ford did a great promotion with us this summer, but they're empowering
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Dinnages, their local dealership network to kind of take up on some of the initiatives that they've
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spent money on. So yeah, mixture of feedback really. So we're getting more interest from
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sort of the dealer level. And the OEMs I think are looking at more activations on a smaller
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level. So I think the biggest shows have suffered a little bit. And it's a shame that London
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EV show was delayed this November because we always loved attending that. But looking at Farmbra
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and what happened at the Everything Electric show, I think there's a real case to answer for smaller
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shows, more compact, shorter time, and being a bit more punchy. And that's why we do things
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like powered up. So we've got the conference in January, again free to attend. We're the
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only free to attend conference. But what we do is we look at how we can integrate B2B
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relationships into common problems and issues. So this year, we're looking at fleet finance and
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kind of the future of how people engage. And we've been really, really lucky, like you said earlier,
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Jill has joined us and Jill Noel has huge amounts of experience and contact in the industry.
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Or the event we did, the first event we did in January this year was
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sold out, well I say sold out, allocated out and sponsored. This year we've got sponsors
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from Close Brothers looking at the finance, how the infrastructure builds on that.
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And another way of just looking at how do you get into the industry, maybe from a different
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angle. If you've got SME that's got a small fleet, looking to change, looking to solar power
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their depot, looking to look at battery storage and things like that, then we want to look at that.
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Because at the rally, we were getting loads of questions about more corporate led things.
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Rather than people standing looking at a Tesla, looking at an ice lolly, they wanted to maybe
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come in and talk about how our connections over the last 15 years and how they can
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further those relationships. So that's why this summer we had a great experience,
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sorry last summer with Quinton Wilson, he hosted something for us on the seafront.
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And that was the catalyst for us to think maybe we should do a conference
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that kind of gave people those opportunities. And also we can use the findings in the rally.
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So we talk about things in the rally that we talk about at conference. So we're kind of,
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January is a think tank and then in June we sort of follow on from what we talked about.
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Hmm. I mean, you mentioned Jill there and I know you've got Harrison working along,
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Harrison Hughes working alongside you. Tell me a little bit more about the team because
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I'm pretty sure it's more than just two slash three of you, isn't it?
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Well, we grow. I mean, Harrison's been a fantastic addition and we went into business together
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following our relationship with Tom and we're still obviously good friends with Tom and we
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wish him well on everything he does. He does the international leg of the rally.
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Harrison, I thought from the very outset, he's an outstanding individual.
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He spoke at COP26 when he was 16. He was flown up to Scotland.
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And I think a lot of the power behind what we're doing has come from him and his
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intuition is Mr. EV, what he doesn't know isn't worth knowing.
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And I was always a traditional event manager, journalist, not really specific. I've done
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lots of transport related conferences in my previous roles and life. So I knew how to put things
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together, but never really had that true acumen he has. And so he joined and we extend the team
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closest to rally with Spike and with Melissa, who have worked with us for some time.
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And also we obviously have Kevin Booker who Kevin has been with us for the whole time.
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So he's a consultant for us and we're a consultant for him. So we kind of do a two-way
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streak. And it's really design team behind us, Oli from the design team and helps us with our
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socials and things. So we've kind of built a little team that we can beef it up closer to the
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rally and the conference. And then hopefully we can continue a relationship with Jill far into
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next year. We have ideas about some other stuff we'd like to do. And I think it's the time
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for growth now. And I'm slightly proud of the names that you've mentioned. Harrison's been a
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guest on the podcast. Quentin's been a guest on the podcast. I think you had Tom Middleditch who
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was working with alongside Quentin at the thing. He's been on the podcast. Kevin as well. So
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I think I'm batting quite well on that one there. So now just looping back a little bit
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to the actual event itself. You focus on efficiency on the rally and prizes are awarded according to
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who can do the distance with the least amount of energy used rather than the quickest time.
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Can you cast your mind back and think of any particularly weird anomalies that have come up?
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Well, the weirdest one and the most wonderful one is Cedric Lynch who joined the rally in
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the first two years. Cedric was instrumental in development of the electric motor and he won
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both categories both years with his own design motorcycle which was featured in Tomorrow's World
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in the 90s, very early 90s. Cedric is an inventor, an engineer and a true pioneer.
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But his vehicle kind of looked like a cylindrical torpedo which was steered by his bare feet
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and he could cycle and use the power and he won categories in both years. He beat people and
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I remember we had the first award ceremony at the Grand and Cedric turned up in his rally t-shirt bare
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fee and looked like he'd been dragged through a headbatch which you know he'd been buffeted for
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the elements all day and the Grand wouldn't let him in. So we had to fight, I had to go and have
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a delicate word with security and just you know and say that Cedric was our guest. I love
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Cedric and he's just a true maverick and individual that really helped push the industry.
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So I guess you know we've developed a few things. We had the first solar flyover, the planes,
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the solar planes that we've worked with did fly past in the first two years and now we you
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know you see solar planes everywhere, sorry electric planes everywhere and but we had the
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first ones that did the fly past which was great for Brighton Beach. Everyone was looking up
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and expecting to see something raw past and then something gently puffed past.
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We had solar cars compete, we've had hydrogen cars, we took three hydrogen cars to Paris
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and I think they cost four quid, I think it cost four quid in total to get to Paris
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with a hydrogen car, they came from North Wales. So I think it's just the amount of you know
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quirky self-builds, the individuals, we've you know we've had some real, we made some real
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friends and just visiting Paris last weekend and looking at what we did in Paris which was a bit
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of a slog for year one. When we went to Paris it was on fire because it was the time of the riots
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so we had half the people pull out but it was really interesting. We were waiting to we were
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waiting to load at New Haven and I think Rick Bollemier had a phone call, one of it one of his
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team had a phone call from the Daily Mail suggesting they found out that we were doing the rally
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and it was the first one that had been done and the Daily Mail were saying you do realise the
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ferry is going to sink don't you with that many electric cars on board. A genuine call and genuine
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trying to get a rise from us. I have got a friend on the mail who did laugh about it and say that
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it was kind of a little bit tonguey jig but however it was a genuine call. So I think you
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know that's just what we did, we busted some myths you know. I think Tom was great taking
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everyone to Geneva and Amsterdam obviously this year showing what long distance can do
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and he gets a good following. People follow him to you know those European destinations.
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For us it was difficult because we do such a big event on Brighton Seafront and then there
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were wards in the night. Tom then heads off at six in the morning the next day.
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It was always quite tricky for us so we're trying to get around that again but we would
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like to get back to the continent or we'd like our continental friends to come to us
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and maybe start from Paris and finish in London.
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Well I like that. I've done as you say, I've gone with Tom for the last three years to
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Paris, Paris and Geneva and Amsterdam this year and those events start in London and
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go down to Brighton then onto the continent. It's kind of a bit of a highlight for me
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doing that in various different vehicles which is fantastic. Now one of the big unknowns
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for people like myself until a little bit closer to the time is where is it going to
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be next year? So we knew it was going to be Paris a couple of years ago and then we kind of
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suspected it might go on to somewhere else which turned out to be Geneva and then I had a little
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bit of an inkling that maybe we were going, somebody mentioned you might need your clogs
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next time so that was Amsterdam. Do you have any hints that you can drop?
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Well the only thing I could say is I did have a quick conversation with Tom
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and he was asking the price of sun cream so I'm going to let Tom take that question
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and I think it might be a further distance but at least at the end of it you may be able
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to get your speeders on Gary.
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All right I'm going to have to sit and think about that one. I appreciate that thank you very much.
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So what's next for the London to Brighton EV rally?
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Well we've got already we've got a huge amount of people interested in taking part.
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We've got 62 entries confirmed already which is a record for us before Christmas
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and we will look to build on the rally and its importance, its place within the annual diary.
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It's you know like I say it's going to be something that showcase I really want to showcase
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self-builds and how people have put their energy into building their own vehicles
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and we've really had great success with that and that's really of interest to me I think
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that you know the engineering element and how people have got their fingernails black
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with success of building something beautiful. I think that's good OEMs and test drives you
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know we are embracing wholeheartedly because I think it's a great way of low pressure ease
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and the fact that you know we were over 60% of people that had never driven an EV
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and we've done three charge and drives now and it seems to grow we sell that out. The cars
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the test drives for the cars are literally going seconds so and that's 26 by only seven cars
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on test drives and they go so quickly people register and they literally they're off and
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we've got the next one the end of March in Brighton and we've been asked to do one in
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West Sussex as well so they're going to be really interesting and they're just you know
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that's that's a good dealer exercise and that's a way of embracing some of the charging companies
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as well and seeing how they're going to work within residents and you know domestic areas
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and then the rally will build up to the point where you know hopefully we've got
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various destinations we've been offered different destinations and we're looking at that you know
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we're actively looking at interesting sites either from London or from Brighton the home so you know
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we'll definitely do that and grow the conference powered up maybe we'll outgrow the transport
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museum we can only get 110 people in at the moment it's a nice feeling and I've you know
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I've grown businesses in the past and grown too quickly and it's like oh it's a beast
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now it's enjoyable now I feel you know and I'm not you know I've got Harrison who's extremely young
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and focused and you know and I'm an old fart so you know I've got to balance what's what's kind of
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you know that what I want to do and what I should do and I just love it at the moment I love that
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the feeling that we're in control it's not too big that we're sort of we've scaled up too quickly
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but we deliver for everyone and we have the same sponsors every year so they keep coming back
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and we love them because they help keeping the events free to attend or very very low cost to
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attend yeah I think you're doing absolutely fantastic there long may it continue is there
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is there anything else you'd like the listeners to know before we wrap up I think it's just you
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know please give anything a chance you know give any event that's up that's free to attend a
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chance you know it's it's a wonderful like we said my first open this interview it's about
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that exhilaration is about that feeling you know I love the fact that this was old school motoring
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you stand and chat to people at charging points you know you you pull over at services and you
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have a conversation and it's so weird because our cars are branded we've got these two great cars
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from BYD they're fully branded and it's a talking point so everyone will come over to us and ask
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us about the rally and if you're at a charging port then of course they're going to ask you
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because you know you stand out like a sore thumb and if you've got 40 minutes or you know
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or less sometime whatever you're driving that's a real that's you know when do you have 40 minutes
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to chat to a friend you know it's really odd that you know so if you're on the phone you're
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thinking great to catch up I gotta move on when you're charging there's all that pressure off
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and you know they're total strangers but you have that common link and that's I think the
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rally was sort of helped by that because everywhere I went people would see the car
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and ask about the rally and you'd then you'd get a call a week later or a couple of days later
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but then signing up you know that's the beauty of it you know we're a very social set of drivers
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and passengers and I think that's that's the thing to keep in mind so it's not just
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the fact that you're you know you can charge for 7p a night whatever at 7p per hour whatever
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you you start making friends it's a network that you grow and eventually you know you can
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start coming to some of the events that we fantastic great place to stop there Bill I think
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thank you very much Bill for your time appreciate it thanks so much Gary I think you've done so much
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of the industry and I love the fact you've contributed and you're always so engaged with us
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and you always do everything with a smile I've seen you in so many test drives I said you'll
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cross me a little bit fully charged you're driving past me in a van and the smile in your
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face was just classic and I just think you've you've got what I've got in in the way that
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it's just fun still it's just it ignites something and you'll I think what you've done is
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is really special too so well I appreciate that Bill thank you very much
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now if you've not been on the London's Brighton EV rally it's a really great event now we
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usually meet at Westminster City School in a Victoria central London which has a nice
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big courtyard where all the cars can amass and we do that early on a Saturday morning
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as Bill says there's breakfast everybody gets t-shirts car stickers and instructions
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and then we all depart on a convoy over Westminster Bridge for a nice
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co-dap moment and after that it's up to you to make your own way down to Brighton using which
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ever route you wish the aim is to use the least amount of energy possible now on the
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seafront when you get there there's a whole day of events and demonstrations with lots of
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stands and stalls for you to look at you also get a voucher for lunch and towards the end
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of the day there's an award ceremony with a bar and whether dependent some outdoor
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outdoor activities now I've done this event three times and this year will be the fourth time
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the date is the 20th of June 2026 I'll put a link in the show notes to the website
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so that when the tickets are available you can buy them immediately
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now it's time for a cool EVR renewable thing to share with you listeners Ikea or as we know it here
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Ikea in Canada has completed 72% of its home deliveries with electric vehicles in August
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the company built EV charging infrastructure without charging customers extra and this
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move supports Ikea's goal of 90 0 emission deliveries by 2028 Ikea said he'd invested 3.75
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million dollars presumably Canadian to build its charging network with 1.175 million in funding
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from the natural resources Canada's zero emission vehicle infrastructure program the ZVIP it's
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middle of winter from Siberia and end up crossing the Sahara in the height of summer I told him
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