323: How To Turn $6 into $10,000 (I Know, That's Click-Bait)

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Hey, what's going on, Automotive World, welcome to another episode of the Automotive Diagnostic

Podcast.

My name is Sean Tipping.

I'll be your host once again for this week's show.

Thank you so much for joining me.

You got just me on the show this week.

I'm going to be talking about one of my favorite tools that only cost you $5.95

if you go on Amazon, buy the same one I did.

And yes, I realize the title of this episode is a little clickbaity, but it's true.

So I will say that if you buy this tool and you learn some basic electricity fundamentals

and then you go out there and you find diagnostic work, this tool will make you

that much back and you got to have enough work to do.

So how did I calculate this number?

Well, first off, okay, what's the tool?

It's a test light, an incandescent test light.

All right.

I'm going to turn the episode off right here because you're like, okay.

But I'm channeling my inner Paul Danner for this episode.

But like really in real life, I use this freaking tool all the time and I try to convince

everyone else who's doing 12 volt electrical diagnostics on anything, even up to a 2025.

I don't care to use one of these, have it, use it.

It's an awesome tool.

If you understand electricity, you understand what it does.

It's huge.

And that's what I'm going to talk about today.

How did I get the $10,000 number?

Did I just pull it out of thin air?

Not really.

I looked at the total amount of diagnostic dollars I have done up until like right now

in 2025.

And then I did some rough math to figure about how many of those I utilized the test light

in the diagnostic.

Now probably only a handful of those I did just with the test light, right?

Generally you're going to have a scan tool involved in just about every car.

And if you include the pre scan, okay, I have it involved in every diagnostic.

But some of them did I need the scan tool to get there?

Probably not.

But how many diagnostics did I use the test light in determining what was going on

with the vehicle?

Maybe it was the only thing that I needed.

I bet you that number is conservative, to be totally honest.

I was generous on the conservative side of things when I came up with that number.

Plus it's a nice easy round number.

$10,000 sounds great.

Okay, but seriously, you can turn a $6 tool into $10,000 with your knowledge

and enough broken cars in front of you and people that are willing to pay you

to repair them or at least diagnose what's wrong with them.

So let's get into it.

How do you use this tool in diagnostics?

And maybe you already do and you're like, I don't really care.

I understand how to use a test light.

But I'll share with you today.

Maybe a few ways that you haven't considered using an incandescent test light.

Or maybe you just love to use some other tools out there.

Scope, PowerProbe, the LED test light, I don't know.

There's a bunch of other tools out there.

But I'm here to try to convince you why an incandescent test light is really

useful beyond just the normal things that you would think of.

Now, one of the biggest reasons I love to use a test light in most applications

is because it commands a load on the circuit.

And if you've taken one of my classes before I have an electrical analysis or

circuit analysis class where I talk about a bunch of different ways to assess

electrical circuits and how to think about electrical circuits.

And I break it down into two main categories.

Either that circuit is sending information or the circuit is performing work, right?

So if you think information like a data circuit for canned communication.

If it's doing work, think of a headlight bulb, right?

We're talking heat, motion, magnetism, something like that.

We're performing some sort of physical work.

And I think about those circuits differently and I treat them differently.

And I may test them differently.

And for any circuit that does work, I want to be able to load that circuit to make

sure that it can carry the current in order to do the work, right?

Whatever the load or loads in that circuit are, I want to make sure that that

circuit has the ability to carry the current to said load, right?

And a test light is a great way to do that, not the only way.

And of course, you have to consider what is the actual amount of current

that said load uses and does my test light equate to that, right?

You could have a situation where your test light draws more current than the load

in the circuit, but you could also easily have the situation where your test light

does not draw anywhere near the amount of current that a particular load uses

in a circuit.

So then, well, okay, well, how useful is it at that point?

You'll have to consider that.

Of course, that all starts with, well, understanding a couple of things here.

And I want to start with this.

And I've had this in my class.

I probably talked about it on the show before.

I did this when I was teaching at the college.

It's a really powerful example of why the test light's important in a lot

of circuit testing.

And like, I remember when I first experienced this out in the field

because I didn't realize this at first when I was out there testing stuff

with my meter, and this could be with a scope, too.

But try this.

Take your meter, take your scope, whatever, whichever one of those two

you're measuring voltage on a circuit, right?

Okay, 12-volt circuit.

Take a jump pack or a battery.

Doesn't matter.

Hook your black lead of your scope or your meter up to the negative

terminal of the jump pack or the battery.

And then take the red lead and hold it in your left hand,

and then touch the positive terminal with your right hand.

You will measure pretty close to battery voltage on that meter or scope.

Okay, it's going to depend on the impedance.

The scope's generally going to be a little bit lower than the meter.

But a meter will show you 12-point something volts on a fully charged battery.

Okay, that's through your body.

Switch the meter over to ohms, measure the resistance.

You're going to be like a million ohms of resistance or more.

It depends on how hydrated you are that day.

And you know for sure you're not going to be able to carry any usable

current for a circuit that needs to do work through your body.

But open circuit voltage testing, that's why you really shouldn't do open

circuit voltage testing.

You want to use your voltage drop.

There's plenty of classes out there on that.

But hey, maybe you don't know the circuit is open in the car, right?

That's a real potential thing that you could run into.

The fact of the matter is, you can read voltage through a large amount

of resistance on a circuit that is open.

Okay, if it has that unwanted resistance through your body, you can read that.

A test light will not light.

Try the same thing with a test light.

It's not going to happen.

Your body will not carry enough current from a 12-volt system to light

that test light.

It's just not going to happen.

So your test light would show you that like, hey, this isn't a usable path

for current.

We can't perform the work where your meter or scope,

unless you understand what's going on.

You understand the limitations of your tool, which is key.

Any tool really just depends on you understanding the limitations

of what it can and can't do.

But the meter or the scope in that instance is not going to be able

to tell you what work the circuit can do.

Again, voltage drop testing aside, assuring that the circuit is complete

and then doing voltage drop testing.

You can definitely assess what you need to from the circuit that way.

But I like to test light.

Just personal preference is the way I use it.

So that's it.

Test light is going to be able to load the circuit,

demand some amount of current to basically stress test

that circuit to say, hey, do we flow current?

Now, how much?

That's really important, right?

What is the normal amount of current

that should be flowing through that circuit?

And what is the normal amount of current

that my test light would flow if I just hooked it up

to a battery?

You should know that.

Whatever test light you're using,

and again, incandescent bulb,

you should put an amp clamp around it

and figure out how much current it draws.

If you have multiple test lights, test them all.

Write it on there with a piece of tape

so you don't forget it, okay?

This one's 0.2 amps.

This one's 0.02 amps.

This one's an amp.

You can put some bigger bulbs in these things.

They will mount the plastic eventually if you leave them

on, so do keep that in mind.

Headlight bulb, right, four amps, right?

That's not quite a test light, but it is.

There's tools out there where you can set up the test light

in like a plastic holder, the 3D printed.

Kind of just becomes a real high-amperage test light,

but you're gonna wanna know that to say,

A, is it equal to the load that is normally in that circuit,

but also for safety reasons,

if we're testing computer-related circuits,

we also wanna know how much amperage that test light

is going to draw when connected to the circuit

because in the instance of a headlight bulb,

that's gonna be way more than that circuit is designed to handle

and then you let that smoke out of the inside of the computer

which you obviously don't wanna do in testing,

creating another expensive problem on top of the other one

that you're trying to solve.

So do be aware of what your test light draws,

but once you know,

and if you're able to assess the current

that is normally in the circuit,

this becomes a really powerful tool, okay?

So again, just checking to see, hey, can that circuit

carry a load enough to light up my test light?

Now the brightness of the light

is obviously gonna depend on the voltage,

not only on the circuit, but in the system

and the bulb itself.

So that's where there is a weakness in the tool

of are you gonna be able to tell a two-volt difference

from your test light?

I don't know.

You'd have to be pretty freaking good

to be able to tell that unless it's changing in real time,

I don't think I could pick that out, to be totally honest.

So that's where meter or scope is gonna be more useful

as far as like voltage drop testing.

And I'm not saying this is the only tool that you should use.

I'm just making a pitch for like why this should be

in your regular repertoire of tests and tooling

that you use on a vehicle.

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All right, so most of you know this.

You've used it, you got one, either you like it or you don't,

but you're aware of this style of tests.

But for today's episode, I thought I would share

just a couple uses of a test light

that make it more versatile than you might think.

All right, now again, really important here

that you understand the amperage draw of your test light.

But for a test light that's somewhere

between 100 to 200 milliamps of draw,

this is one of my favorite tools

for activating a relay circuit.

Okay, what I mean by this is quite often

relay control circuits are gonna be controlled.

They'll have either constant power ground on one side

and then they're controlled by a module

either by providing power or ground to that relay coil.

You can use a test light and provide either ground

or power, whichever one it needs,

to that circuit to activate the relay coil, okay?

Now, here's why this is a safer method

than just jumping straight up power

and ground to that circuit, okay?

Well, if you're incorrect and you thought

it was supposed to be power, but you did ground,

that's gonna be real bad for the driver

in that control module.

But if you do it through a test light

that again is somewhere between 100 and 200 milliamps

which is the normal relay coil draw for most relays

there are exceptions.

So I guess I should just put a disclaimer out there.

There's still a possibility you could ruin a control circuit

on a computer this way.

So just be cautious.

You can research the relays if you really want to

and find out what the normal amperage draw is.

But I have found, again, if you're in that like

150, 160 milliamp draw, that's the normal current draw

for the control side of a relay.

So you're usually safe, okay?

But also pay attention to your diagram

and make sure you're applying the same thing.

And then that way, if the circuit normally applies ground

to the relay and you're providing ground, you're safe.

And I guess you don't need a test light in place.

But anyways, I'll use a test light just again

as a safety measure when I'm doing this,

when I'm jumping it to a circuit

that's connected to a computer

and I want to test it out, right?

I want to be the computer on turn on the relay.

I'll use a test light in place.

And it works really well.

There's still enough current

that will go through your test light

and through the relay coil to activate the relay.

Try it, it works really well.

Again, it's gotta be an incandescent.

An LED one is not gonna work for this.

Now, the way that I actually found that out was by accident.

I was diagnosing a Pontiac G6

with a accelerator pedal issue.

And it was a short circuit

to ground on the five-volt reference

for the accelerator pedal.

And what I was doing is I was using my test light

to see if I had a straight shot to ground.

And this is another use for your test light, right?

If I power up my test light

and I touch it to something

that I think maybe has a ground on it

and it lights up brightly,

I know that that is a direct path to ground.

And I will use that for checking

both power and ground on circuits, right?

Let's say I have 12 volts on something

and I'm not sure is this like battery voltage

or is this a bias voltage?

Ground your test light, touch it.

Does it light up your test light or does it not?

That's gonna be a real quick way to say,

oh, okay, this is a bias voltage

maybe provided by a control module

or oh yeah, this is straight power, okay?

I've done that on a canline before.

Both power and ground, right?

I'll power up my test light.

If I have a no-com and it's at zero,

I'll touch the canline.

And if it lights up, okay,

I got either a straight shot to ground

or a straight shot to power enough to light a test light,

it is shorted to something, right?

Either inside of a module or on a wire,

I am shorted directly to something.

That's the only way it's going to light my test light, right?

I understand what's necessary

in order for enough current to flow through that circuit

to light up my test light

that it's gotta be a direct short.

Or again, oh no, this 12 volts is a bias

or at least it's a resistive short.

It's got resistance in between it

and it's path to either power or ground.

But anyways, on this Pontiac,

when I powered up my test light,

so the clippy ends on the power

and so I'm touching the circuit

with the end of my test light to see

is this a straight shot to ground?

It activated a relay

and that relay was for the brake lights.

And so by determining that,

I was like, oh, it has to be this circuit, right?

I'm grounding this relay by touching this wire.

These two wires have to be touching.

Where do they go together in the harness?

And then I was able to find the short.

And it was a poor wiring repair

and a wire was sticking out

from the control side of a relay

to the five volt reference on the accelerator pedal.

And that was how I realized, I was like,

oh, a relay is a great way.

A test light is a great way to test a relay.

There's enough current to activate said relay.

I could hear it click every time I touched it.

So it works really well.

Another way that I will use a test light.

And this one you maybe could consider

a little bit more risky.

However, I've not had any issues doing this.

So you'll probably call me up tomorrow

and say, hey, I just ruined this network by doing this.

But when I'm at a control module

that maybe is not communicating, all right?

So driver's door module just did this other day.

I'm gonna use my test light.

I'm gonna check power.

I'm gonna check ground, okay?

That's what I need.

Now there's communication to this module as well, okay?

Now it could be can, could be Linn, whatever it is.

I'll take my test light, grounded.

I will touch it to the network wire.

And I'll do one of two things.

I'll either just listen with the key on

for things to ding and the dash to go crazy

as soon as I do that.

Because what am I doing?

I have a grounded test light touching it to the network.

I'm pulling that network down, but I'm doing it safely.

Now with a can network, you'd probably be okay

just straight up grounding it.

But this is giving you just another layer of safety

because the test light again is not going to be able

to flow much current through that circuit.

But it'll pull it down.

It'll stop communication.

What does that mean to me?

If that happens, that means up to that module

where I am testing, the circuit's good

on the communication wire, right?

If it's a single wire GM LAN, I do that.

I hear everything go crazy.

Well, my network's connected here, right?

Should I scope it?

Is there a possibility for some weird corruption?

Sure, that's possible.

But what it tells me at least is the circuit's connected,

okay?

So again, power ground and touch it to the network.

You're good to go.

You at least know if the circuit is connected

up to that point.

With can, if you wanna be even safer,

you can just jump the two wires

at the module you're testing.

Jump them together and do the same thing.

There definitely won't be any significant current flow

through that circuit.

You're just jumping can high and can low, perfectly safe.

I've never seen that cause a permanent issue.

But as long as they're jumped,

whatever else is on that network

ain't gonna communicate.

And depending on the network that you're working on,

there's probably other modules

where if you have the key on,

they'll respond by doing something.

I mean, use your scan tool, right?

Have your scan tool right there,

jump them together at the module you're testing

and see, okay, I just lost everything else

on that network.

Okay, circuit's connected all the way up to this point.

I mean, it's a down and dirty test method.

Is it gonna maybe miss some things at some point?

Sure.

Does it work for a quick check?

Sure does.

You can also use a test light.

I'm gonna keep going here.

To change the voltage on sensor signal wires.

Okay, what do I mean by this?

If you have a five volt sensor,

or I mean, it could even be higher than a five volt sensor,

but you have a five volt sensor

and it's meant to output a voltage to the PCM.

Normally you'll have one of two things

on that signal wire going to the sensor.

You may have zero when the sensor's disconnected

and that's normal.

You could also have five volts on that signal wire.

You'll have a separate five volt wire

as a reference to the sensor,

but then some sensors will have five volt present

even on the signal wire that is a bias from the computer.

In the case of a Hall Effect sensor,

maybe it's meant to pull it down.

I've seen other sensors that just have that five volt

bias.

I'm guessing it's more for like a circuit integrity check.

But anyways, you can take a grounded test light

and pull that down, right?

If it's a crank sensor and you've got a five volt bias

and the sensor normally pulls it down,

touch it real fast on and off and watch your scan tool

and you can then be like, oh, okay, this circuit is good.

I see the RPM when I'm, as the faster I go,

the faster the RPM goes on the scan tool.

Cool.

And again, safe thing to do on that circuit.

I've never damaged a circuit by doing that.

It's essentially the same thing the sensor's doing

in that point.

The sensors probably actually just pulling it all the way

down to ground where you have a resistive path

within your test light.

But you can do it the other way too,

you can power up your test light, clip the end on power,

and then touch it and you know,

the voltage should jump up, right?

So for a signal wire, like a map sensor,

now you could also just jump the five volt reference

to it and that probably would do the same thing,

but test light will work as well.

And I've done that a lot of circuits

to verify the integrity.

I'll watch the scan tool, look at the voltage,

touch it with the test light,

that's either power up or grounded, watch for a change.

Okay, I know that that circuit has enough integrity

to read what's happening on this end

and I move on from there.

Another thing you can do with the test light,

this might be my last one here.

I'm sure many of you have done this

where you take the test light, you ground it,

and I think you can actually clip it to positive too,

but I usually will ground it

and then I can do a spark check with it.

Now, make sure you're hanging onto the plastic part,

not the metal part, but if you're cranking an engine over

or the engine's running and you move the metal end

of the test light close to the output

of the ignition coil, the spark will jump

from the ignition coil to the end of your test light

in a visible manner so that,

and you can even change the range, right?

You can have an adjustable spark tester with that test light

and you can see it and you can hear it

and you can feel it if you want to.

Stick your other finger in there and see how it feels.

Ah, that's 30,000 volts.

All right, that coil is good.

But what I like doing here,

this is one of my favorites for when I am by myself,

right, I'm doing mole work, I'm on the parking lot,

I don't have anybody else around to crank the vehicle,

I will take my either a long wire

or I have a reel of wire and I'll take

the end of that lead and I'll stick it

into the ignition coil, right?

I want to see if this engine has spark

because it's a no start.

I will stick it into the end of that ignition coil,

I'll bring the other end of that lead,

clip it to my test light

and then I will find the bolt in the door jam, right?

The driver's door and I'll make sure

that it's not painted, you know,

scratch off a little bit of paint if you need metal

but you want a good metal surface

and I'll hold my test light

about an eighth of an inch away, quarter inch away,

whatever, again, we can adjust the range

for our spark test here and I'll crank it over.

So I'm in the driver's seat so I can reach the key,

I can hit the brake pedal, I can hold the test light

and I look for spark and it'll jump right to that bolt

in that door jam if there is spark

through the wire, through my test light to that bolt.

It is a great test to test for spark

if you're by yourself and you don't want

to pull out your scope just yet,

you're just doing a quick check to see,

hey, do I have spark?

It works really well, right?

Now, again, you can do this under the hood

if you have a helper to crank,

but if you're by yourself,

real quick method to check for spark.

So it's a real quick episode today.

Those are my uses for a test light.

Let me know what you have.

If there's something I forgot about, didn't mention here.

I would love to hear your ideas

or your ways that you use a test light

in your day to day diagnostics

and how if you've made $10,000 or more

from this little six dollar tool

and again, $5.95 is the price on Amazon,

I'll send you the link if you can't find it.

With that all the way,

let's get out there and start fixing the world

one car at a time.

Let's go.

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