A Corvette is a sports car made by Chevrolet. It’s been around for decades, and people collect them because they’re fun and have a big enthusiast following.
The Corvette Grand Sport is a special Corvette model that’s meant to be more track-oriented than the regular one. The host is talking about a specific design feature on that model’s look.
“Hagerty H’s” refers to the Hagerty brand’s stylized “H” logo marks. In the transcript, the host says the book’s Corvette-inspired hash marks accidentally resemble that Hagerty visual motif.
“Gulf Oil Blue” is a reference to the classic Gulf Oil racing livery color scheme. The host is describing how they considered using that heritage-inspired color for a Porsche book cover.
Market trends are the big patterns in what people want and what prices do over time. Valuation trends are how those patterns affect what a car is worth.
“Supercar” and “hypercar” are terms people use for very high-end, very fast cars. In this segment, they’re also used to talk about how those cars changed design, technology, and even culture.
The Jaguar XJ220 is a famous 1990s supercar known for its high-speed performance and for being one of the era’s headline-grabbing cars. In the segment, it’s referenced in a story about racing/competition outcomes versus Ferrari, highlighting how the XJ220 was perceived as a serious contender.
Collectors often describe the hobby like a ladder. You start with more affordable cars, then move up to rarer and more valuable “big-name” cars. It’s basically a way to talk about how expensive and desirable cars get as you climb.
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super car or a hyper car
People use “supercar” and “hypercar” to describe extremely fast, exotic cars. “Hypercar” usually means the most extreme, rare, and high-tech level. Collectors use these words to talk about how special—and how expensive—these cars are.
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auction highlights and record sales
When people say “auction highlights” and “record sales,” they mean the biggest results and highest prices seen at auctions. Collectors pay attention because it shows what buyers are willing to pay right now.
Here, “stewardship” means looking after your car responsibly. It includes keeping it in good shape and planning so it can be preserved and passed on the right way.
“Paris style wealth” is the name used for a wealth-management service being mentioned in the ad. They’re connecting their planning philosophy to the way collectors think about protecting and planning for the future.
Metron Garage is a company being mentioned that builds garages. The host is basically saying some people use garages for more than parking—they’re places to work on cars and take care of them.
Agreed value coverage means you and the insurance company agree on a price for the car ahead of time. If something happens and the car is totaled, you get that agreed amount instead of a lower value based on today’s market.
Carport is mentioned as a digital tool for keeping track of your cars. The idea is to help you organize information like maintenance history so it’s easier to manage a collection.
Service history is a record of maintenance and repairs performed on a vehicle over time. For collector cars, it can help with resale value and with proving proper care, since these cars may be maintained differently than daily drivers.
NCM Insurance is a company that sells insurance for collector cars. The host is talking to its CEO about how they insure cars and why they focus on the collector-car world.
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collector vehicle agencies
This phrase means insurance companies that focus on special cars people keep and enjoy. Collector cars can be used differently than normal daily cars, so the insurance needs can be different too.
The Corvette Museum is the institution that owns NCM Insurance, giving the insurer a direct connection to Corvette history and the enthusiast community. That ownership helps explain why they started with Corvette-focused knowledge and then expanded to other collector cars.
A non-profit is an organization that uses money to support its mission instead of making profits for owners. The hosts are saying some museums try to become non-profits so they can get help and keep operating.
They say they have “one and a half” of the 1983 Corvettes. That means the museum’s display isn’t just one whole car—it’s put together from parts so that more than one car’s worth of 1983 pieces are represented.
An assembly plant is where cars are built in a factory. They’re saying one of the museum’s rare cars was used as a display at the plant entrance and was visually updated over time.
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side panels
Side panels are the outer body pieces on the car’s sides. They removed one to look for identifying information to confirm it was really an 1983.
They’re talking about older GM display cars that were sometimes crushed instead of saved. The story is used to show how rare surviving cars can become over time.
Crash safety standards are rules that car makers have to follow so the car protects people better in an accident. The host is saying the 1983 Corvette didn’t meet some of those rules the way later Corvettes did.
A flat dash is just a dashboard shape that’s more flat than curved. The point here is that the 1983 design didn’t include a safety piece that later cars added to help protect you in a crash.
“Bread box” is a nickname for a box-like safety structure on the passenger side of the dashboard. It’s meant to help reduce injury if someone hits the dash during a crash.
A crash pad is the padded part on the dashboard meant to make impacts less harsh. The host is saying later Corvettes added a bigger one, but the 1983 didn’t originally have that protection.
Crossfire Fuel Injection is a computer-controlled way of delivering fuel to the engine. On some cars it didn’t work as smoothly as hoped, so owners sometimes had trouble with it.
Tooling issues mean the factory’s production equipment wasn’t ready or didn’t work correctly during the changeover. That can slow down building cars even if the design is already planned.
“Factory AC” means the car originally came with air conditioning from the factory. That usually makes it cleaner and more correct than an aftermarket add-on.
“Four speed” means the car has a transmission with four forward gears. More gears can help the engine run in the right range for both driving and speed.
“Dual quads” means the engine uses a pair of carburetor setups (multiple carburetors). It’s a classic performance setup that can change how the car responds and sounds.
“Big block” means the Corvette has a larger, more powerful V8 engine. People usually bring it up because it’s a key part of what makes certain classic Corvettes special.
The Kia Stinger is a sporty-looking car with four doors, designed to drive more like a performance car than a typical family sedan. People often customize them, including changes around the hood and engine area. It’s discussed because it offers a fun, modern platform for upgrades.
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396
“396” is the engine size—396 cubic inches. Bigger-displacement engines were often the ones people wanted for stronger performance.
Primer is the coating applied to bare metal or old paint before final paint. In this context, the hosts are emphasizing that the car was reportedly sold/kept in primer, which is unusual and part of the car’s story and rarity.
A stinger hood is a Corvette hood with a raised center shape. People notice it because it can help tell whether a car looks like the original factory style.
COPO is a way Chevrolet let dealers order special, unusual factory builds. When someone says a car might be COPO, they mean it could be a rare, documented special-order Corvette.
The “small block 350” is a Chevy V8 engine that’s 350 cubic inches. People mention it because it’s a specific engine option that affects how desirable the car is.
They’re saying the car’s “C2 chassis” is the older Corvette platform underneath. That matters because it changes which parts fit and can affect how hard restoration is.
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327
“327” is a specific Chevy V8 engine size. Collectors mention it because different engine options make cars more or less desirable.
A carbon fiber hood is a lighter hood made from a strong composite material. People mention it because it often comes with certain special editions or performance packages.
The Corvette ZR1 is one of the strongest versions of the Corvette. Saying “manual” means it has a stick shift, which some drivers prefer for more direct control.
It’s a fun decision game about three cars: keep one forever, sell one for money, and scrap one. It’s basically testing what matters more—sentiment or cash.
They mean the car has the wrong engine for what it’s supposed to be. For collectors, the correct engine matters because it can change how much the car is worth.
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All right, welcome to the collector car podcast. I am excited about this episode. I know I say I'm
excited about every episode, but I really am or else I want to be doing this. This one honestly
is about Corvettes when's the last time I talked about Corvette. So I have Adam Boca and he's a
Corvette expert and one of our sponsors. So be sure to stay tuned for this one. It's a lot of fun
because I ended up spur of the moment picking each of us picking our favorite Corvette from each of
the generations, all generations, which was not planned, but decided to do it anyways. A quick
note on the book. It is out. It is official. It is right here next to me. So 400 pages. If you're
watching online, I'm going to show you the spine here. This is something I decided to do is if
you know the Corvette Grand Sports, they have these two little hash marks. It actually looks like the
Hagerty H's, which was accidental. But when I was deciding on what color for the book cover to be,
came up with black, which is really cool. But then the next book is about Porsches,
the enthusiast guide to Porsches. And originally I wanted the book to be, I wanted the colors to
relate to the history of the car or the heritage of the car. So for Porsche, I was thinking about
making the book Gulf Oil Blue with the type in orange. And then, but then I was like, well,
what color will the Porsche be? And so what I decided to do is make all the books black,
because this is the first of a series. And so it will be just like this book, but it'll have
probably a 930 Porsche on the cover, the enthusiast guide to Porsches. Hopefully it'll come out in
October. And then for the hash marks, I'll do the hash marks as to reflect on the racing heritage.
So the hash marks on the spine will be probably three of them, two Gulf Oil with the orange in
the middle. That's where I'm leaning right now. There's a lot of cool colors for Porsche to pick
from. But that gives me a little freedom. So when I do the book on Ferraris, I can have it the
Italian flag, you know, muscle cars. I haven't quite figured that one out yet. That might just
be regular racing stripes. We'll see. But all that to say, the book is out. Like I said, 400 pages,
much thicker than originally planned. Incredible response. If you would like your own copy,
go to thecollectorcarpodcast.com and check it out. If you ordered a book, if you pre-ordered,
those are all out. Those are all in the mail being sent to you. If you ordered this week,
I will get these out tomorrow. And if you were a contributor or a sponsor, I will get those to you
as soon as I can. Honestly, the first print run went to the pre-orders, the people who paid for
books, and that sold out. And so I am going to send, if you contributed a quote, you get a free book.
And if you're a sponsor, obviously, you get a free book as well. So I will send those
probably mid-May towards the end of May, just as soon as the next wave comes in.
Now, I will be a Greenbrier this weekend judging and on a seminar talking about
market trends, apparently, valuation trends. So that will be fun. And anyways, a lot of fun,
cool stuff going on. I did do an unboxing video. I'm going to go ahead and play that right now.
It's only two minutes. So take a watch here real quick of the actual official unboxing video where
I go over some of the contents that are in the book. Listen to the sponsors. Please support them.
And then we'll get to my interview with Adam Boca and the Corvette conversation,
which was really nice and refreshing. All right, this is the unboxing video of my new book,
The Enthusiast Guide to Collector Cars. So let's check it out. I got my handy knife here.
Nice packaging. All right, here you go. The Enthusiast Guide to Collector Cars.
All right, let's talk a little bit about what's in the book. So this is an example
from Super and Hyper Cars. So I'll start with a quote from an expert, in this case,
Freddie Tavares Hernandez. And then I go into what are the cars of the era. In this case,
Super Cars and Hyper Cars are reviewed design and technology. I break it out by both the
Super Cars and the Hyper Cars, as well as what is the cultural influence at the time. And then I
go back to what are the origins of Super Cars. And for this chapter, you have to go back to the
Gowing and the Mura, which I go into depth about both of those and why they're so integral to the
origins of Super Cars and Hyper Cars. And then I talk about some key collectible models,
not every model, but the key ones. And then I go into some fun stuff, such as when Jaguar,
the XJ220 actually beat Ferrari, but still a loss from a marketing perspective. I cover why
new enthusiasts should care about this era of cars, as well as the collector's ladder from entry
level to middle market to blue chip icons. And then I talk about collector considerations.
What does it take to own a super car or a hyper car? I review the timeline of the era with some
key highlights. And then I focus in on one or two spotlight cars, depending on the era. And then I
finally end with auction highlights and record sales to kind of show how these cars are doing in
the marketplace. And I close it with another quote from an expert, in this case, Super Car Blondie.
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welcome to the collector car podcast. I'm really excited to have Adam on board because he's doing
a lot of cool stuff with the podcast and the book and the newsletter and all sorts of cool stuff.
So, I'd like to welcome Adam Boca. How are you doing, buddy?
I am awesome, Greg. How are you? I'm great. I'm great. I'm so happy to have you on the
podcast and we have a lot of stuff to dig in right now. So, if you would, tell me,
first off, who you are, who you work for and what services you provide and then we'll get
into some cool car stuff. Absolutely. No, I'm Adam Boca and I'm the CEO of NCM Insurance. NCM
created this agency about 18 years ago and it has blown up into one of the fastest growing
collector vehicle agencies in the country. We ensure close to 100,000 vehicles across the
country and not just Corvette. So, even though we're owned by the Corvette Museum, we know that
other opportunities and other amazing cars out there that we absolutely love to ensure.
Yeah. No, that's great and I appreciate that. You've been a long time listener of the podcast
and you actually reached out to me when I had the book coming out and I have some ads available
and I think you were the first person that said, yeah, that's cool. I want to be a part of it,
but what about the podcast? I was like, oh, that's a great idea. Yeah, absolutely.
If we could share our story and people can connect with us and they might walk away either they
love us or they hate us after this podcast, but hopefully they'll love us. Yeah, likewise.
Yeah, so I appreciate that and yeah, so let's talk about that. So, NCM, did that originally
stand for National Corvette Museum? It did. So, I was an employee of the National Corvette Museum
as one of our event coordinators and we had built this relationship and in the knowledge base of
Corvette and just other cars and it was just a natural segment for us to hop into. We continued
to get the question, who do you recommend for insurance and sure, we recommended them to many
other agencies or companies and then we finally, it just clicked. There was a light bulb that said,
wait, why not capture this opportunity and create another revenue stream for the National Corvette
Museum and so that is a lot of museums struggle with financially figuring out how to make additional
revenue to keep the lights on, but at that time our executive director at the Corvette Museum,
he was a visionary. He was phenomenal. His name was Wendell Strode and he said,
let's create our own agency and what started as a one person agency, me, has now blossomed into,
we have 16 incredible employees that grind all day long and they listen to stories and they listen
to what keeps people excited about their automobiles and then what they're hunting and so that's a
ton of fun to us. Yeah, no, that's awesome. That's really good and you're right. It is so hard to
keep the lights on in a museum. Now, a lot of museums, not the National Corvette Museum, that's
totally different, but a lot of museums, they start out as like a pet project. This is this guy's
collection. How can I make it go on forever, turning it into a non-profit, try to get
supporters, that kind of stuff, but it is really a challenge and I love the Corvette Museum. I've
been there numerous times. I've been there before the sinkhole. I've been there after the sinkhole
and it is such an incredible setup. Now, isn't that home to the only 1983 Corvette ever made?
It is. Yeah, so there's actually one and a half 1983 Corvettes. Oh, tell us about that. Yeah, we
have one and a half of the 83s, but the 83 is obviously a really special car to us. There were
43 produced, 41 and a half are in existence. I didn't know that. I thought it was just one.
Yeah, no, so there's one and a half. We have one that used to hang over the entrance
at the assembly plant and when that car was relevant in the early to mid-80s,
they would change the wheels to make it look like the current production year.
We got that entire half of the car and we started just doing some research, pulled one of the side
panels off to get to the secondary Venn and noticed that it was an 83 Venn number. It's a pretty
special piece. The front half, the back half, the driver side, the passenger side. The passenger side
half. Oh, wow. Okay, so it's got the front and the rear wheel. They literally cut the car right down
the middle and put it up on a big metal plate to hang on the wall. You said there's about 41
actual 83 Corvettes out there? There were 41 that were produced, or sorry, 43 produced,
40. There's only one and a half in existence. So they crushed the other ones? Crushed,
shredded, disassembled, cut up. Yeah. Okay, so all these years I've been saying that there's only one
83 Corvette. That's kind of true. Yeah, I mean, there's one full 83 Corvette. But they actually
made 43. That's amazing. I had no idea that they made that many. Yeah, there's a guy at the plant
named Ralph Montalion. He will probably listen to this, but he was responsible for the destruction
of those vehicles. And he ended up saving this car because he didn't want his brand new cowboy
boots to get dirty. And in this car ended up just kind of being pushed in a corner. I need to talk
to him. We need to get him on. That sounds amazing. Yeah, it's a great story. Yeah, because you always
hear about, you know, in the 60s and the 50s and, you know, like the, what were they called, the 1953
GM Motorama cars being sent to, you know, a junkyard to be crushed and they were, you know,
some of them survived and Joe Bortz found them, you know, 30 years later, dug them out, you know,
because people are like, these things are historical artifacts. Now a lot of those cars
were actually crushed and we never saw them again, unfortunately. So hearing it from the man that's
crushing the cars, that's pretty interesting. It's pretty cool. For my listeners that aren't
aware of why there's only one, tell us, why is there only one 83 Corvette in existence? Yeah,
I mean, there were several reasons. One, you know, there were some, some crash safety standards
that weren't necessarily achieved on the 83 Corvette. It was a flat dash. So the entire dash
was flat and it has what we call a bread box on the passenger side. And so on the 84 and up
to 89 Corvettes, there's this big bread box that says Corvette and it's almost, it's a crash pad.
So if, if you were to be in the car, get into a collision and you were to hit the dash, that
pad is supposed to soften the blow. But so that car originally didn't have that in 1983. And so that
was, there were some crash safety standards that weren't achieved, but then also some EPA
items that needed to be met. It also came out with a motor, the Crossfire Fuel Injection that,
you know, had its issues. And 82 Corvettes had that motor than 84 Corvettes had that engine.
But it had some just inherent issues with being a new type of fuel injection system.
But, you know, ultimately they did retrofit our 83 with that, that bread box. But it's also pretty
cool. Our car, it's got a one-off set of prototype wheels that never made production in 84. And it
would have been the standard wheel if it was in 1983. Yeah. And was it also had to do with switching
over the tooling of the factory or no? Or is that an urban legend? No, it's definitely part of it.
So when the Corvette plant moved here in 81, they were still producing the C3, the third generation
Corvette. So to only produce that car for one year in bowling green, it was an investment that
probably should have waited until the 84 Corvette was ready or the 83 Corvette was ready. But
there was definitely some tooling issues at the plant that delayed that production.
Wow. Okay. Yeah. So I, this, this feels really good. I haven't talked about Corvettes in such a
long time in this podcast. So this feels good. I'm a big fan of Corvettes. And so my uncle has a 67
Corvette, nothing real special, base engine, but it's got factory AC, side pipes, four speed,
and he bought it in 1974. And so he's been showing it since then. And I've been drooling over it
ever since I knew what a car was. And he still has it, you know, and I'm like, you know, you can
put that in your world than me. He's like, no, I was going to my daughter. I'm like, oh, man.
Anyways, just, just love them. So why don't we play a little game here? I just thought of this.
So why don't we, you tell me, I'll go first. Your favorite car from, your favorite Corvette
from every generation. Okay. So that's kind of tough. For C1, I used to love the 58s.
And I liked the chrome. I liked the extra stuff. I liked the quad headlights.
As I learned more about Corvettes, everybody talks about the 57 being like the most pure form
of the V8, you know, and so now I'm like, all right, I think I, I think my favorite is a 57
fuel. But 56 had the dual quads, right? That's right. Yeah, absolutely. Virtually identical
appearance wise though. But yeah, dual quads, 57 fuel injection. That was a big deal. You know,
brought the horsepower to be the cubic inches, you know, one to one. And not many cars had that,
had that, I guess, clout. So that was a pretty big deal for Chevrolet and for Corvette to have that.
Yeah, I'm going to say a 57. I like the silver with the white Cove in the red interior. That
would be my pick. What would be your pick? You know, I'm not far from you. So a 57 airbox car
would probably be. So you're going to go super rare stuff. I'm like, then I'll be like, Tarnit,
I should have said airbox. No, okay, 57 airbox car. You know, that car to me with the seal wheels
and that those smaller hubcaps, to me, it just looked mean. It brought a presence to it. That
was different than just a normal road car in a Corvette from 57. But great lines.
Just a great performance model for Corvette. Yeah, yeah, that's really great. All right. So
and to be clear, I'm not, I'm not picking the rare stuff for value because I could like for
C twos, I could say, well, I want to, I want to zero six, 63, you know, sure. But for C twos,
I'm going to go with a 67. That's my favorite year. I'm going to go with the big block because I like
the Stinger hood. I'm going to go with the coupe, but I'm not going to go with the big 435 horsepower
engine. I'm going to say like, let's keep it streetable, maybe a 400 horsepower engine. I don't
know, you know, was it 390 400 435 like that. And obviously four speed car. I'm going to have to do
Marina blue because that was my uncle's what he has. I love that color with white interior,
which I don't think they actually offered a Marina blue. But that would be my choice. How about you?
It's a great choice. For me, I'm probably going 65 396. You know, it's the first one year only.
Yeah. One year only. I think it's just a great transition year to, to that big block.
It was a big deal. You know, when Corvette got the big block, I would probably pick color wise,
silver with red interior. Oh, so okay. You know, that's a tough one because I'm just thinking
about I was in Rick Hendricks collection not long ago, and I think I counted 37 67 big block
Corvettes and had the rarest color combos, you know, black with the blue hood stinger,
you know, stinger hood and blue interior. And yeah, I think even one of them had a red
stinger hood and just the most craziest, rarest color combo. Yeah. The one that stood out,
which I would never pick is the Mary Kay car. So it was the only 67 big block that was sold in
primer, right? Because Mary Kay was going to paint it pink. And so that car is in primer now,
and they added not factory correct, but they added a white, I painted a white
stinger hood. I think that's what it was. But interesting. Yeah. So I don't want my car in
primer, even though it's rare. So again, with the silver with the red interior, okay.
Yeah. Was that a copo car technically or probably? Yeah, I think it was. Actually,
I'll throw up here. That's pretty cool. It's just insane, those cars. So yeah,
all right. Why don't you pick the we have, we have eight generations. So let's get a little
let's get through this. Let's try to move a little faster. But why don't you pick this?
You're sick. You're a C three. Yeah, 69 convertible, red interior, red top or red exterior,
red interior, white top four speed small block 350 350. Why not the 68?
68 was that kind of unique transition year. So it had the C two chassis underneath it,
327. It was it's one of the harder cars to restore and with with the C three model,
because it's a one off. Oh, interesting. Okay. Well, I'm going to switch push button.
Door opening versus the drop down as well. Well, they also had the dash ignition versus
the column, which was 69. All right, I'm switching mine to 69. I was going to say 68. All right,
I'll pick the same as you. All right. How about for a C fours? C four, that's that's tough.
ZR one or Grand Sport, but I would probably go Grand Sport. Yeah, so I would go Grand Sport,
the one of the 50 with the red interior, the convertible. That's what I would pick. All right,
we're on the same page. Yeah. Right. C five's now, I haven't really thought about this one so much.
I need to think about my C five. C five. What would you pick? I actually, now I know. Okay.
Yeah. I would pick an 04 Le Mans edition. Just that blue with the carbon fiber hood.
Great, great car. And it was about darn perfect. I'm not even aware of that car. Okay. I would pick
the fixed head coupe with the zero six. Yeah, the six. I'd have to do red. Which year would you pick?
What would you recommend? I would not get the 01. That's 385 horse. 02 and up was 405.
Okay. So I would recommend one of those. You know, I actually have seen that car in yellow,
which I thought was pretty cool. So I'll pick a yellow one. All right, it gets a little difficult
with C six. I've got two big ones. How about I go first? I would pick the one of six. Was it the
Pratt Miller carbon fiber car? I know Jay Leno has one, one reason. I mean, that's probably
what I would pick. But isn't C six when they had that carbon edition? They did have this carbon
edition. And so it was gray or black. And then it had this really great decal on it. But I'm
drawing blank on what year that was. I think I'd have to pick the Pratt, whatever that's called,
because that's a special engine. All sorts of crazy stuff, right? Yeah, the C six RS was incredible.
Yeah, absolutely incredible. Yeah, I would agree. That's a neat car. If I'm going production car,
I'll probably pick the 0901. Yes, that's a great one. What color?
I would go jet stream blue, like the car that fell in the sink hole. Yeah, yeah, I saw one
recently in like a dark maroon. I just thought, Oh, that's really cool. Yeah, really cool. All
right, let's move on to C sevens. What would you pick for a C seven? I know your answer. Can I
guess your answer? Yeah, go ahead. I'm going to say 2019 ZR1 manual. Okay, 100%. Yes.
I'm not a typically an orange fan, but I would probably get the orange. I was going to say the
orange. Yeah, I don't know that I would. I've seen those things in white, believe it or not. And they
look really wicked in white. They look great. All right, how about C eights? I can guess your
answer on this one too. Surprisingly, I would not pick the ZR1 X. Too much horsepower? I'm scared
of it. It's a lot of car. The recently unveiled Grand Sport. Oh, that thing is cool. That's a
special one off engine, right? Well, it's going to be the it's going to be the base motor also in
the stingray. So it's going to replace the current setup so that LT six is going to make its way
into the stingray as well. So but I love the wider hips like the wider car, the wider stance,
the different wheel options. But much like the 96 Grand Sport, I love my dream car is a 63 Grand
Sport. And so I just I think the Grand Sport lineage is to be the perfect Corvette. Yeah,
no, that's really great. I would honestly, I would probably just have to pick that new crazy
ZR1 X or whatever it's called. That thing's nuts. The only experience I have is with I
drove my friend zero six. And it was a 70th anniversary one, which is super cool because
it was white with the silver light silver stripes, white interior. Beautiful. I just fell in love
with that car. And I said, this is the perfect car because, you know, it's a hard top roadster,
you know, you got all the horsepower you want. High reckon engine. I just fell in love with
that car. I just thought that was the coolest thing ever. So and one of the prettiest cars
ever. Oh, for sure. Absolutely. That tricolor paint is just special. Yeah, yeah. Well, before we
move on, I do have another fun game I want to play with you. And I did not give you a heads
up. So hopefully you're okay with it. Otherwise, we'll edit it out. But what's the best way for
our listeners to learn about NCM insurance? Yeah, so real simple. If you go to NCM insurance.com,
complete information is on our site, you can you can click on get a quote, it'll send us
the information that we need to put that quote together. Now, the cool thing with us is we do
have the ability to shop this to multiple carriers. So our goal is to write the best coverage at the
best price, and then ultimately the best service that hopefully they'll ever experience when buying
the dreaded insurance. But we are or they can give us a call up at 877-678-7626.
Awesome. And there'll be links in the podcast as always. So you can always check the description
and learn more there as well. Okay, so I did not give you a heads up about playing keep cash and
crush. So this is the game where I give you three cars. You have one you keep forever one that you
cash in and one you send to the crusher, unfortunately. Now, I picked these cars out before we talked
about our favorite cars by generation. And strangely enough, two of the three I picked were
cars you picked out. So this will be interesting. All right, so the three cars are a C601 red,
a C4 Grand Sport convertible with the red interior. And the curveball is a C2, a 67 base 427,
but it's got the wrong motor. So from a value perspective, they're all within probably 10
or 15 grand of each other. So it comes down to passion. Which one would you keep forever?
Which one would you cash in? And unfortunately, which one would you send to the crusher? This is
really hard. It's extremely hard. I'm going to upset some people, some customers and friends.
That's good. That's a great lead in. Man, the one I would keep crush or keep cash or crush.
Okay, people usually start with the crush first, because that's the hardest bandaid to rip off,
but you don't have to. Yeah.
You're not actually crushing any cars. I'll see you right away. Yeah, thank goodness. I would probably
crush the 96 Grand Sport. Okay, why?
Well, I mean, they're just not, they're a lot harder to get in and out of.
Oh, I love how you're struggling. That's awesome. It is a very difficult.
What I would keep probably the 67. Even with the wrong engine. Even with the wrong motor.
And why would cash in the ZR1? Because it's just bringing crazy money.
Yeah, they really are. They, you know, that's a cool collection to have if you have, you know,
one each generation. You know, that's a cool collection. You know, nobody talks about the
ZR2. Why do you think that is? Isn't the ZR2 a little rarer? Wasn't the ZR1 a small block?
The ZR2 a big block? Yeah, that is correct. But I think just because of the quantity of cars
produced, they're just a lot harder to... There's only like two of them, right? Yeah, they're
unobtainable. And so you see it pop up in forums and people saying that their neighbor, you know,
has one. And, you know, but yeah, there's only two in existence. And they're just not shown a whole
lot anymore. So, yeah, not in our forefront of events that we attend or that we see frequently.
And from a branding perspective, ZR1 is better than ZR2.
Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Here's the ZR8.
Right. Yeah. Well, Adam, thank you so much for being on the podcast. Thank you for
supporting the podcast and the book as well. So when you see the book, everybody, you'll see a
nice ad from Adam in the book. So please support NCM Insurance. And like I said, you can find all
the information in the details attached. Really appreciate you being on the podcast.
Greg, thank you. Thank you for what you're doing. I love reading what your blogs and your emails,
your Ferrari perspective was wild. And it was great. So that Meekum auction was fun to attend.
Now, part of me wishes I was there and part of me was glad I wasn't there. You know,
that kind of thing. And no, I really appreciate it. I tell people, if I send you a newsletter,
I don't want it to be a waste of your time. And so I try to make it at least entertaining
if nothing else. Absolutely. No, it's great. Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it. Thank you.
About this episode
Adam Boca traces NCM Insurance from its National Corvette Museum roots into a major collector-vehicle agency, then the talk dives into Corvette lore and personal favorites across generations. The pair revisit the strange story of the 1983 Corvette, including the museum’s half-car display and why the model never reached production. They also play a light keep-cash-crush game, weighing everything from a 1967 Corvette to a 1996 Grand Sport and a 2019 ZR1 manual.
What happens when you combine collector car insurance expertise with America's sports car? You get one seriously fun episode.
I sit down with Adam Boca of NCM Insurance to break down what makes their company different in the collector car space and why having the right coverage matters more than ever in today's market.
Then we shift gears into pure enthusiast mode. Adam and I each pick our dream Corvette from every generation of the Chevrolet Corvette, from the iconic C1 all the way to the modern C8. There are some obvious choices… and a few curveballs you won't see coming.
We wrap things up with a high energy round of Keep Cash or Crush where the decisions get tougher and the opinions get louder.
If you love Corvettes, collector car strategy, and a little friendly debate, this one's for you.
The Collector Car Podcast features expert interviews, great collections, and market insights. With 25+ years of experience, Greg helps enthusiasts navigate the collector car world with confidence.
