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707: Botches Offroad Podcast (Takeover)

707: Botches Offroad Podcast (Takeover)

Snail Trail 4x4 Offroad Podcast May 14, 2026 55 min
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About this episode

Hosts and guests from Snail Trail 4x4 Offroad Podcast kick off with a Botches Off-Road takeover vibe, then jump into practical wheeling-and-overlanding talk. The conversation covers suspension choices and parts sourcing (including moving a Toyota to a link suspension kit), plus daily-driver realities like quick swaps, interior comfort, and carrying spares. They also get into trip logistics—trailering vs driving, bypass decisions, and Michigan/UP terrain—while sharing real repair stories (like a U-joint fix) and recovery gear setups.

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Company

4Wheel Underground

"Four wheel underground is making some big changes... check out 4Wheel Underground."

4Wheel Underground is a company that makes and sells off-road suspension parts. They’re saying you can buy specific pieces (like brackets and joints) separately now, not just whole suspension kits.

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upper frame bracket

"So if you want the upper frame bracket, you can just buy that."

A frame bracket is a strong metal mount that bolts to the truck’s frame. The upper one holds the suspension parts in the right position so the wheels can move properly off-road.

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lower link bracket

"If you want the lower link bracket because it has the integrated bump stop and it's super stout..."

The lower link bracket is where the bottom suspension arm/link attaches to the frame. If it includes an integrated bump stop, it also helps limit how far the suspension can move so things don’t hit each other.

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integrated bump stop

"If you want the lower link bracket because it has the integrated bump stop..."

A bump stop is like a safety cushion that limits how far the suspension can compress. If it’s integrated into the bracket, it’s built in so the truck protects itself when you hit big bumps.

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cartridge joints

"So now you can buy those all a cart from cartridge joints, rebuildable Johnny joints, hymes, offsets..."

Cartridge joints are sealed “hinge” parts inside the suspension. They help the suspension move smoothly while keeping mud and water out so they last longer.

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rebuildable Johnny joints

"cartridge joints, rebuildable Johnny joints, hymes, offsets..."

Johnny joints are spherical-style suspension joints designed to handle misalignment and articulation in link suspensions. “Rebuildable” means the joint can be serviced (re-greased or have wear parts replaced) instead of being replaced as a whole, which can reduce long-term cost for off-road use.

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hymes

"cartridge joints, rebuildable Johnny joints, hymes, offsets, all sorts of different ones."

Heim joints (often called “hymes”) are strong spherical joints used in suspension links. They let parts move smoothly through different angles, which helps off-road articulation.

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offsets

"cartridge joints, rebuildable Johnny joints, hymes, offsets, all sorts of different ones."

Offsets are parts that shift the mounting point a little. That lets you fine-tune the suspension geometry so the truck sits and moves the way you want.

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Aluminum links

"Aluminum links... He found a way to source aluminum links so that there's no extra charge on the suspension kits."

Aluminum links are the suspension “arms” made from aluminum. They can be lighter and resist rust better than steel, which can help off-road setups.

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Alucard system

"And thanks to the Alucard system, you can also order aluminum links if that's all you want."

The Alucard system sounds like a way to order specific suspension parts—here, aluminum links. The point is you can get the aluminum links you want without paying extra.

Concept

link suspension kit

"So if you want to move your Toyota from Lee Springs to a link suspension kit, check out 4Wheel Underground."

A link suspension kit is an upgrade that changes how the wheels are connected to the truck. It uses link arms and joints so the suspension can move more and handle rough terrain better.

Brand

Lee Springs

"So if you want to move your Toyota from Lee Springs to a link suspension kit..."

Lee Springs is the name of the spring setup currently on the Toyota. Springs affect ride height and how the truck handles bumps, so switching them changes the suspension feel.

Car

Wrangler Rubicon

"...e a part of and use to do some maintenance on the Rubicon Trail too. They have an elite partnership."

The Wrangler is a 4x4 SUV made for off-road driving. The podcast mentions doing maintenance related to the Rubicon Trail, which is a well-known off-road route. That means the Wrangler is being talked about as a vehicle people use and maintain for serious trail trips.

Term

Solid Axel

"Why haven't we made Solid Axel Toyotas straight out of the factory in 2026? ... The American market doesn't have any Solid Axel Toyotas."

A solid axle means the two front wheels are connected by a single axle. Off-roaders like it because it’s tough and can keep the wheels working well when you hit ruts or uneven ground.

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IFS

"Is it was a choice to go from Solid Axel to IFS because it makes a more comfortable ride? ... The American market doesn't have any Solid Axel Toyotas."

IFS means the front suspension is set up so each front wheel can move more on its own. That usually helps the truck feel smoother and grip better when the road or trail is bumpy.

Car

Toyota Tundra

"...east for the American market, would have been the Tundra. But I'm pretty sure those are IFS as well."

The Toyota Tundra is a large pickup truck meant for work and towing, and it can also handle rough roads. The podcast is mentioning its suspension setup, which affects how it rides and how it performs off-road. It’s often discussed because it’s a common choice in the U.S.

Car

Ford F350

"And it's way too big to imagine that. Like, OK, I wheeled an OBS F 350 and that was fine. But this thing is wider and taller"

The Ford F-350 is a big, heavy-duty pickup truck built for towing and hauling. The podcast is saying it’s even larger than another F-350 they’ve used, and that width and height matter when driving off-road. Bigger trucks can be harder to fit through tight spots and over obstacles.

Concept

long travel

"You're right. [609.0s] We should probably tell them what we drive. [611.5s] That is a good point. So I have. [614.5s] I wheel a 98 forerunner on long travel. [619.1s] It's a pretty nice truck when the timing is right."

“Long travel” means the suspension is built to let the wheels move farther. That helps the truck stay planted on bumpy trails instead of losing traction.

Car

2014 F 250 power stroke

"And, you know, water pump is working and stuff. [625.1s] And then I just bought a 2014 F 250 power stroke."

This is a 2014 Ford F-250 with a diesel engine called “Power Stroke.” Diesel trucks like this are popular for off-roading because they pull strongly at low speeds.

Part

U-joint

"Sometimes, like the other day, Alex helped me determine that I had a U-joint gone bad and we fixed a U-joint in a couple hours and had it all back in and together and the truck was driving great."

A U-joint is a small connector in the drivetrain that helps the driveshaft keep turning smoothly even when the truck’s suspension moves. If it goes bad, the truck may shake or make knocking noises.

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two and a half, three inch lift

"I have a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser [924.3s] on two and a half, three inch lift, [926.6s] Bill Steen's and Wild Peaks. [929.9s] And that's suspension wise, tire wise."

A “lift” means raising the truck higher off the ground. Going up about 2.5 to 3 inches helps it clear obstacles and fit bigger tires for off-road trails.

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Wild Peaks

"I have a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser [924.3s] on two and a half, three inch lift, [926.6s] Bill Steen's and Wild Peaks. [929.9s] And that's suspension wise, tire wise."

“Wild Peaks” is a brand/model of off-road tire. It’s made to grip better on rough surfaces like dirt, mud, and snow.

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winch

"No fancies. Yeah, a winch. [937.5s] That's important. [938.9s] I got one of the. Oh, wait, I don't have one of those right now."

A winch is a motorized cable that can pull your vehicle out if you get stuck. It’s one of the most important tools for off-road recoveries.

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front bumper

"No toast. I don't even have a front bumper. [947.3s] No. [948.5s] Alex and I do recoveries around here every once in a while in the winter."

The front bumper is the part at the front that helps protect the vehicle. If it’s missing, it can also affect how you attach recovery gear when you’re stuck.

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recoveries

"Alex and I do recoveries around here every once in a while in the winter. [952.8s] Yeah, to help people out. [955.2s] And he might have broken his bumper on a recovery."

“Recoveries” means helping someone get their off-road vehicle unstuck. It usually involves tools and careful pulling so nobody breaks the car further.

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Michigan rust

"Yeah. So, yeah, Michigan rust. [973.1s] And he was pulling a vehicle at a weird angle."

“Michigan rust” means rust problems that are common in cars from snowy, salted-road states. Salt speeds up corrosion, especially underneath the vehicle.

Part

trail gear bracket

"I now have a nice new trail gear bracket. And soon there will be a trail gear bumper to go with said bracket."

A trail gear bracket is a metal mount that helps bolt off-road accessories onto the truck. It’s important because it keeps the gear solid when the vehicle hits bumps and twists on trails.

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trail gear bumper

"And soon there will be a trail gear bumper to go with said bracket. I bought 11 time and then I ended up on another truck."

A trail gear bumper is a sturdier, off-road-focused bumper. It’s meant to protect the front of the truck and usually helps with clearance when you’re driving over rocks and ruts.

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stinger

"He's getting the stinger. So we're happy about that. It looks better. The other one just looked kind of bare."

In off-road truck setups, a “stinger” is typically a front-end accessory (often a grille/bumper-mounted guard or extended protection piece) that adds protection and a distinctive look. It’s commonly associated with aftermarket front bumpers and recovery-oriented builds, and it can change how the front end visually “fills out” the truck.

Car

Kia Stinger

"...And maybe that's because we were used to seeing a stinger on the front of it. It looks so good on the black..."

The Kia Stinger is a sporty-looking sedan made for more exciting driving than a basic family car. The podcast is talking about how the car’s front design and badge are easy to spot, especially in black. It’s mentioned because it’s visually distinctive.

Concept

daily driver

"But as a daily driver goes, though, it's still very hard for me to do anything else other than that. So that is the downside to my setup is that I've purposely built it to do this."

A “daily driver” is the car you use every day. The host is saying their setup is great for their camping routine, but it’s harder to use for random errands that require different cargo space.

Term

rooftop basket

"that was that was part of why I put the rooftop basket up. Because, like, I was so sick and tired of I'd go to the store and I couldn't get anything like I couldn't get lumber."

A rooftop basket is a rack on top of the vehicle for extra storage. The host added one so they could haul bulky stuff without cluttering the inside of the car.

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gazelle tent

"So I have a whole right side that I use to put on my gazelle tent. [1646.4s] But otherwise, when I'm not camping, I have that rooftop space. [1667.7s] So I tried to like, yeah, yeah."

A Gazelle tent refers to a specific brand/model of pop-up or quick-deploy camping tent used for overlanding and off-road trips. In this segment, it’s being secured to a rooftop tent setup, so the speaker is focused on how to keep it from shifting.

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rooftop tent

"But otherwise, when I'm not camping, I have that rooftop space. [1650.0s] And I just don't have straps, man. [1652.0s] I got a I had like a bunch of straps in the car"

A rooftop tent is a tent that sits on top of your vehicle. It’s used for camping so you sleep above the ground instead of directly on the dirt.

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ratchet

"And I'm like, didn't want to like ratchet. [1677.8s] And I'm like, OK, I'm getting auto tensioning ratchets. [1681.1s] Just going to get two of them."

A ratchet is a tool that tightens a strap in small clicks and then holds it tight. People use it to keep gear from moving around—like a tent on a roof rack.

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tailgate

"Most daily, besides I don't have a tailgate [1702.5s] and I have two spare tires to take up most of my bed."

A tailgate is the back door on a pickup truck bed that can swing down. If you don’t have it, loading and unloading can be different.

Term

50 pound dogs in a life

"I mean, you've got to stay close. I've had me and two 50 pound dogs in a life. I forgot I was a terrible experience."

They’re talking about how the vehicle has to fit their dogs and still work day-to-day. When people build off-road rigs, the inside layout often changes, so space and weight matter.

Term

60 percent split

"I've also taken out the 60 percent split and my rear seat and have that flat now."

A split rear seat means the back seat is in two pieces. You can fold one side down to make more room for cargo while leaving the other side up.

Concept

convert back to stock

"So ironically, yours is the hardest to convert back into a daily, but it's the only one that can get converted back to stock. Yeah. Yeah, it's close enough to stock."

They mean taking the vehicle back to its original, factory setup. It’s about being able to undo the changes so it can be used normally again.

Term

rear seats

"And I love that Toyota made it really easy to take out the the rear seats. It's like two bolts, which is kind of scary, but at the same time, it's cool."

Rear seats are the back-row seats. People remove or fold them to make more room for gear or to create a flat space for sleeping/cargo.

Car

FJ

"I love that about the FJ, but it's a very customizable. It's just expensive to customize."

“FJ” is short for the Toyota FJ Cruiser. It’s a rugged off-road Toyota that a lot of people modify, and that can get pricey.

Part

stock shocks

"You could like honestly, if you bought stock shocks and stock wheels and tires, you could go back pretty quick."

“Shocks” are the parts that help smooth out bumps. “Stock shocks” means the original ones that came from the factory.

Part

stock wheels and tires

"You could like honestly, if you bought stock shocks and stock wheels and tires, you could go back pretty quick."

Wheels and tires can be changed for off-roading. “Stock” here means the factory setup, and swapping back is a quick way to undo upgrades.

Concept

frame snaps in half

"But I plan to wheel this until the frame snaps in half from Michigan winners. And then we'll weld it back together and you'll do it for another two years."

They’re talking about the vehicle’s main metal structure (the frame) breaking from hard use. It’s the kind of problem that can happen when a truck is pushed hard off-road for a long time.

Concept

weld it back together

"And then we'll weld it back together and you'll do it for another two years. Yep. So in Michigan, that'll be at about four years."

They mean repairing the broken frame by welding it. That’s a big repair on a truck’s main structure and needs to be done correctly to be safe.

Car

Dodge Ram

"...ow to explain this. But anyway, he would take his Dodge Ram after work. There is a car wash, an automatic car..."

The Dodge Ram is a large pickup truck used for everyday driving and for work tasks like towing or hauling. The podcast mentions using an automatic car wash, which is something many owners do because these trucks are used regularly. It’s being brought up as a personal, daily-use vehicle.

Concept

spares strategy for a daily wheeling rig

"So if you're going to daily your wheeling rig, [2118.7s] just buy a second copy of your wheeling rig. [2121.4s] So you have all the spares you could ever need."

They’re talking about how off-roaders plan for breakdowns. If you drive your wheeling truck a lot, you either keep a second rig for parts or carry the most failure-prone parts so you can fix things quickly.

Term

wheel bearing

"So I have a spare set of calipers, CVs, a wheel bearing. [2140.5s] CV is on the list, but I don't have one yet. [2143.4s] Alternator."

A wheel bearing helps the wheel rotate smoothly. Rough trails and water can contaminate or damage it, so it can wear out and fail—especially on off-road rigs.

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calipers

"So I have a spare set of calipers, CVs, a wheel bearing. [2140.5s] CV is on the list, but I don't have one yet."

Brake calipers are the parts that squeeze the brake pads against the brake rotors to slow the vehicle down. If they fail or get damaged, having a spare can help you get back on the trail faster.

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CVs

"So I have a spare set of calipers, CVs, a wheel bearing. [2140.5s] CV is on the list, but I don't have one yet. [2143.4s] Alternator."

CVs are parts that help send power from the drivetrain to the wheels while the suspension moves. When the rubber boots get damaged or water gets in, they wear out faster—so people keep spares for off-roading.

Term

alternator

"CV is on the list, but I don't have one yet. [2143.4s] CVs, a wheel bearing. [2143.4s] Alternator. [2144.9s] Alternator for a Toyota for sure, especially in Michigan. [2148.1s] We're always going through some water."

The alternator is what keeps your car’s battery charged and powers the electronics while the engine is running. Off-roading (bumps, heat, and water) can make it fail more often, so having a spare can prevent getting stranded.

Concept

sand-contaminated water

"I did have to replace my pulleys, though, because I went through a bunch of water that had sand in it. We got into my pulleys and so I had to replace a bunch of pulleys."

If water has sand in it, it can act like sandpaper. That grit can get into mechanical parts and cause them to wear out faster.

Term

pulleys

"So you got actual Toyota bearing or pulleys or is it from AutoZone? His rock auto."

Pulleys are wheels that help guide the belt that runs accessories on the engine. If a pulley is worn or not lined up right, the belt can squeal or chirp.

Term

spacer within the gap

"Yeah, even cheaper ones from Riley's and they had a spacer within the gap. So mine just chirps because of it having a weird space."

A spacer is a small piece that sets the right spacing between parts. If the spacing is wrong, the belt can run awkwardly and start making noise.

Term

belt

"I still have the old pulleys that still technically work sitting in the truck, same with the belt, just in case."

The belt is the rubber strap that drives important engine accessories. If something about the belt path is off, it can make squealing/chirping noises.

Concept

overlanding trips

"So like I have I have parts in for that because usually when we do our like overlanding trips and stuff, well, we're at a minimum of an hour away."

Overlanding means taking longer trips where you’re more on your own. If something breaks far from town, having spare parts can keep you moving.

Concept

trailering

"But if you're specifically going somewhere to do [2384.8s] rock crawling or harder trails, trailering makes sense."

Trailering is when you load your 4x4 onto a trailer and tow it to the trailhead. It’s useful when the trip is long or the trails are so rough you don’t want to risk breaking something on the way.

Concept

harder trails

"But if you're specifically going somewhere to do [2384.8s] rock crawling or harder trails, trailering makes sense. [2388.7s] Yeah. Yeah. [2393.2s] you're very likely going to Moab, very likely break your rig"

“Harder trails” are tougher off-road routes—more rocks, ruts, and steep sections. They’re more likely to cause problems or require recovery help.

Concept

rock crawling

"But if you're specifically going somewhere to do [2384.8s] rock crawling or harder trails, trailering makes sense."

Rock crawling is off-roading over rocks and obstacles at low speed. You’re trying to carefully place the tires so you don’t lose traction or get stuck.

Concept

Moab

"[2393.2s] you're very likely going to Moab, very likely break your rig [2397.1s] out of Moab or something like that for some odd reason. [2401.2s] That's just because it's harder."

Moab is a well-known off-roading area in Utah. A lot of the trails there are tough, so it’s common to plan for possible damage or getting stuck.

Concept

bypass

"[2450.8s] I just don't usually like I will definitely take the bypass seven times out of 10. [2456.9s] If it's like crazy, like usually I could follow behind these guys. [2461.4s] Unless the bypass goes off trail, in which case he does not take the bypass"

In off-roading, a bypass is an alternate route around a difficult obstacle or section of trail. It’s used to keep the group moving when conditions are too risky or when a vehicle can’t safely attempt the main line.

Concept

wheeling in the U.P.

"I was watching someone that was wheeling in the U.P. [2602.3s] And stuff that we just drive by, like it's nothing. [2605.4s] They're like, oh, my God, look at this."

“Wheeling” means going off-road and tackling rough ground. “U.P.” is short for Michigan’s Upper Peninsula, which has a lot of rocky, rugged areas.

Concept

U.P.

"I was watching someone that was wheeling in the U.P. [2602.3s] And stuff that we just drive by, like it's nothing. [2605.4s] They're like, oh, my God, look at this. [2608.1s] Yeah. [2609.0s] So you know, it gets annoyed with me because she's a reader."

“U.P.” stands for Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. People mention it in off-roading because it’s a more rugged, rockier part of Michigan.

Term

fenders

"until I did some trails that already did it. And now I'm just like, maybe I'll just cut the fenders."

Fenders are the panels around the wheel area. Off-roading can hit them or cause tire rubbing, so people sometimes modify them to avoid damage.

Term

viper cut

"Maybe I'll do a viper cut on the bumpers. Like now I don't really care because to me it's they're almost like marks"

A “viper cut” is a common off-road body-trimming style where the bumper or fender is cut to create clearance for tires and suspension travel. It’s named after the distinctive shape associated with that cut style, and it’s used to reduce snagging and rubbing during wheeling.

Car

Toyota Tacoma

"Mark, so how long was it after you bought the Tacoma that you crushed that fender on Mike's Little Off-Road? That was a good couple of months."

The Toyota Tacoma is a popular off-road pickup. The speaker is saying they crushed a fender pretty soon after buying it, which is common when you start wheeling.

Concept

wheel separation

"But that that fourth gen that Tyler just bought, he rolled that whole axle rolled under the truck. Did you see the more broke all the legs completely separated?"

Wheel separation means one wheel can lift off the ground while the other stays down. That can happen when the suspension twists over bumps, especially on solid-axle setups.

Concept

solid axle

"April Fool's because it's solid axle. No, no, I didn't. Yeah, so more fleets."

A solid axle connects both wheels with one sturdy bar. When you hit uneven ground, the axle moves as a unit, so the truck can feel like it twists and shifts more than independent suspension.

Term

negative PSI

"It's it's inflation for tracks. The whole negative PSI so that you can. Yeah, negative five PSI to suck you closer to the to the your terrain."

They’re talking about tire pressure being set extremely low—so low that it can behave differently than normal. The idea is to make the tire flatten and grip the ground better on rough terrain.

Term

air bladder

"And it's got a it's got an air bladder in the track inside the tracks. The track itself, but in the components that helps you with traction."

An air bladder is like an internal inflatable cushion. By changing how much air it has, the track/tire can conform to the ground for more grip.

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