They’re saying that off-road trips can easily turn into overnight trips. So if you’re new, plan like you might need camping gear and be prepared to stay out longer than expected.
Instead of looking at a mirror, you look at a screen that shows what’s behind you. It uses a camera mounted on the vehicle, which can be helpful when you have stuff in the back.
An aftermarket add-on is something you install after buying the vehicle. Here, it means adding a camera and screen system to a truck/SUV that didn’t come with one.
They’re talking about where the camera image is shown—either like it’s in the mirror area or mounted on the dash. Placement matters because it can pull your eyes away from the road.
A review camera is a camera that shows what’s behind or around the vehicle on a screen. Off-roaders use them to see better when normal mirrors don’t give the view they need.
A memory card slot is where you plug in an SD card (or similar card) so the camera can save video. The size of the card affects how much recording you can keep before it starts replacing older clips.
An SD card is a small removable storage card used in many cameras. Bigger SD cards let you save more video before the camera starts deleting or overwriting old footage.
This means the camera keeps recording by replacing older video once the memory card is full. If you want to keep a clip, you usually have to save or lock it so it doesn’t get overwritten.
Locking footage means telling the camera, “don’t delete this clip.” It helps you keep the important parts even when the camera is otherwise set to overwrite old video.
Place
Silent Hollow
Silent Hollow is a place they went dune driving. They’re talking about it because they wanted to save the best video from that trip.
“Loop and repeat” describes a dash-cam recording mode where the device continuously overwrites older footage once the storage is full. The host is discussing how the footage was set to repeat, and clarifying that the issue was related to not pulling the footage they wanted to keep.
The Bugatti Divo is an extremely fast, very expensive sports car made for performance driving. People talk about it in the context of tracking how it performs while driving. It’s not a typical off-road vehicle—more of a track and speed machine.
FJ80 is a Toyota Land Cruiser 80 Series. It’s a well-known off-road truck that many people modify for trails because there are lots of parts available.
Super Duty is Ford’s heavy-duty truck line. People build them for off-road because they’re designed to handle big loads, and there are many aftermarket parts for them.
Term
parallel and triangulated suspension
Parallel and triangulated refer to how the links are arranged in a multi-link suspension. Triangulated layouts use angled links to better control axle movement (like preventing unwanted rotation) as the suspension cycles over obstacles.
A three-link is another suspension setup that uses three arms to hold the axle in place. It helps the truck handle uneven ground by keeping the wheels controlled as the suspension moves.
A four-link is a way to attach the axle to the truck using four metal arms. It helps the truck keep the wheels pointed the right way while the suspension moves over bumps and ruts.
Coilover mounts are the strong attachment points for the coilover shocks. In off-road builds, they’re important because the shocks need to be mounted in the right place to work properly over rough terrain.
Trailing arms are parts that connect the axle to the truck and help control how it moves. They’re designed to keep the wheels behaving predictably as the suspension moves over bumps.
Cantilevers are lever-like suspension parts that help position the shock and control how the suspension loads the vehicle. They’re used to make the suspension fit and work well off-road.
An air pump is basically a compressor that makes pressurized air for an air-based system. Some off-road setups use it to adjust ride height or help the suspension work better.
Frame stiffeners are added reinforcements that make the truck’s frame less bendy. That matters off-road because rough terrain puts extra stress on the chassis.
Shock towers are strong mounting points for the shocks. Off-road versions are reinforced so the shocks stay properly attached when you hit rough terrain.
The Wrangler is a 4-wheel-drive SUV made for off-road trails. In the podcast, it’s mentioned in connection with driving the Rubicon, which is a well-known off-road route. It’s the kind of vehicle people choose when they want to go off-road and still have lots of upgrade options.
The Suzuki Samurai is a small 4-wheel-drive SUV. It’s known for being good on off-road trails and for being a popular car to modify. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as part of the off-road community and specific people/projects.
A five-point harness is a more restrictive safety belt with extra straps. It’s common in racing or off-road setups where you want stronger restraint than a normal seatbelt.
This is when you turn the vehicle on but it’s not actually in a safe neutral position. The car can start moving right away, which is especially risky off-road.
“Four low” is a low-speed 4-wheel-drive mode meant for crawling over tough terrain. If the truck is started while it’s in that gear, it can roll forward or backward unexpectedly.
Some cars start with a button instead of turning a key. Usually you have to press the brake first, which helps keep the car from starting unexpectedly.
When you go downhill, you can use a lower gear so the engine helps slow the truck down. That means you don’t have to ride the brakes as much. It can make the vehicle feel more stable and easier to control.
On a downhill, the engine can act like a brake when you’re in a lower gear. That helps slow the vehicle without you constantly pressing the brake pedal. It usually makes speed control steadier.
An automatic transmission changes gears by itself. On a steep downhill, it might not stay in the gear you’d want, so the engine may not slow the vehicle as much. The fix is to shift it into lower gears so it can help control your speed.
“Runaway mode” here means the vehicle starts speeding up downhill instead of slowing down. That can happen if you’re in the wrong gear and the engine isn’t helping brake. Downshifting to a lower gear helps prevent that.
The speaker is describing a situation where the car doesn’t seem to be “working with you” to slow down. With some automatic setups, it can feel like the engine braking isn’t happening. Manually selecting a lower gear can restore better control.
Descent control just means you keep your speed under control when going downhill. Instead of using the brakes the whole time, you use the vehicle’s gears/engine to help slow you down.
“Brakes fail” means the brakes stop working well enough to control the vehicle. It can happen if the brakes overheat on a long descent.
Concept
using the gears to control your descent
This is the idea of using low gears to help slow down going downhill. It reduces how much you have to depend on the brakes, which helps them stay effective.
Torque is the “twisting power” that helps the wheels turn. More torque usually makes it easier for a vehicle to start moving and crawl slowly over rough ground.
Crawl ratio is how much your drivetrain “gears down” so the truck can move very slowly and controllably. More crawl ratio means you get more pulling power at low speed, which helps on rocks and steep terrain.
Gear ratio is how your transmission and transfer case change engine speed versus wheel speed. Lower (deeper) ratios help the vehicle move slowly with more “pull,” which is useful when crawling over obstacles.
Front dig is a 4x4 transfer-case mode that increases traction control by applying more torque to the front axle during low-speed maneuvers. It’s commonly used to help the vehicle pivot or steer more effectively on obstacles by “digging” the front wheels.
Rear dig is a setting that sends more pulling force to the rear wheels. It helps the vehicle pivot and stay controlled when you’re crawling over obstacles.
Lockers are what you use to keep the wheels on an axle from spinning at different speeds. They help the truck keep moving when one wheel loses grip on rocks or mud.
With an unlocked differential, the wheels on an axle can spin at different speeds. Off-road, that can let a spinning wheel take the power, so the vehicle struggles to move until you lock things up.
A front locker is a traction device on the front axle that helps both front wheels grip. It can be the difference between getting up an obstacle or getting stuck.
A rear locker helps the back wheels keep traction by locking them together. If the rear is what’s slipping, turning on the rear locker can help the truck get through.
Term
rear crossed over
“Crossed over” is when the axle is twisted so one rear wheel has less grip than the other. If the differential isn’t locked, the wheel with less grip can spin and the truck may not move well.
In off-roading, “gearing” usually refers to using low-range gearing (and sometimes selectable ratios) to trade speed for torque. Lower gearing helps you crawl over obstacles with better control and less wheel spin.
Throttle inputs are how you press the gas pedal—how much and how smoothly. On rocks, that matters a lot because it changes how much power the tires get.
RPM is how fast the engine is spinning. Off-road, you often want to keep it in the right RPM range so the vehicle has the right amount of power to climb.
Term
drivetrain cutoffs
Drivetrain cutoffs are settings that can turn off part of the drivetrain so the vehicle behaves differently. Off-road, that can help you control wheel slip and keep the truck moving the way you want.
Rock lights are extra lights that shine on the ground near your tires. They help you see rocks and ruts better, especially at night, so you can drive more safely.
“Turtled” is when your truck gets stuck on a rock so its tires can’t touch the ground anymore. Since the tires lose grip, the vehicle can’t climb or back off, and it can also damage or stress parts underneath.
A transfer case is a box in many 4x4 vehicles that sends power to both the front and rear wheels. If you get hung up on a rock, that area underneath can get scraped or stressed.
Drive shafts are the rotating shafts that send power from the drivetrain to the wheels. If you get hung up on rocks, they can get hit or put under strain.
The idea is to put your tires on top of the rock instead of letting the truck’s bottom rest on it. That way the tires keep gripping and you’re less likely to get stuck.
Ground clearance is how much space your vehicle has between the bottom and the ground. More clearance helps you avoid scraping or getting stuck on rocks.
Rock sliders are heavy-duty bars along the sides of a 4x4. They’re meant to take the hit if your truck tips or scrapes on rocks instead of damaging the body.
Tire placement just means lining up where your tires are going to land on the trail. Since you can’t always see your tires, practicing it helps you avoid hitting rocks and getting surprised by how close you are.
OEM vehicles are factory-built vehicles from the original manufacturer, not modified for off-road visibility or custom setups. In this context, the point is that most OEM cabins make it hard to see the tires directly, which is why tire placement skills matter.
A buggy is an off-road vehicle style (often open-cabin) designed for trail use, where visibility can be better than in a closed, stock SUV or truck. The speaker notes that even many buggies still can’t show all four tires clearly, so tire placement remains important.
The Toyota Tundra is a large pickup truck. People use it for towing and off-road driving, and it’s also a popular truck to modify. In the podcast, it’s mentioned in relation to axle and build measurements.
Turn radius is how tight (or wide) your turn is. Off-road, the back of the vehicle can follow a different path than the front, so you need to plan for where the rear tires will go.
Off-camber means the ground slopes sideways. Your tires don’t sit flat, so the truck can feel like it’s leaning or sliding more than usual, and it’s easier to get stuck or tip.
Concept
rear tires making it around obstacles
It’s not enough to just steer the front of the truck between obstacles. The back of the vehicle swings wider, so you have to think about where the rear tires and body will go too.
Wheelbase is how long the vehicle is between the front and rear wheels. A longer wheelbase can make it harder to turn tightly around obstacles, especially off-road.
Undercarriage clearance means how much room there is between the ground and the bottom of your vehicle. More clearance helps you avoid scraping or getting stuck on rocks.
This is the steepest bump your vehicle can drive over without the bottom getting stuck or scraping. It’s important because the rocks and ruts can hit your skid plates or frame.
This is how steep a hill or obstacle you can drive up before the front of your vehicle hits it. Higher approach angle generally means more clearance at the front.
The frame and bumpers are part of the vehicle’s structure and protection. On rough trails, they can scrape or get hit if your angles and clearance aren’t enough.
Concept
mental snapshot
This refers to trail navigation by visualizing the next obstacles and your vehicle’s path before you drive over them. It’s a practical off-road technique for timing steering and positioning to avoid scraping or getting hung up.
Ruts are grooves worn into the trail by other vehicles. They can steer your tires for you, but they can also make it easier to get stuck or hit something underneath.
An offset differential means the rear axle’s center gear box isn’t in the middle. That can give you more clearance on one side, so you may need to steer slightly to keep the differential from hitting obstacles.
Trail scanning means you keep your eyes up and look at what’s coming next, not just what’s right in front of your bumper. It helps you plan your line so you don’t get caught off guard by obstacles.
Mental energy is how much brain effort off-roading takes. You’re constantly paying attention and making decisions, and that can wear you out even if you feel like you’re just sitting in the driver’s seat.
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Welcome one welcome on to the snail trap four by four podcast if you like doing our pretty
into it is wrenching into his computer. Maybe put a little bit of fun to this and of course
you know how fantastic. What are we talking about? How fantastic tips for newbies are just
the tip is in the Toyotas. Then this is the podcast for you. That's right ladies and
James. My name is Tyler and joining me in front of the episode of the snow trial four
by four podcast is just the tip Jimmy. How are you doing man? I'm doing fantastic. That's
good. Yeah. Wasn't that a segment on the Mike and Mike show? Yes. Yeah. The Mike and
Mike was a podcast just the tip for the ladies. That's what it was just the tip for the ladies
all about off-roading tips and etiquette for the ladies out there. Gotcha. I think it was
originally supposed to be started from the ladies for the ladies. But they didn't get
enough. They didn't get enough ladies on hand to give feedback for other ladies. So I morphed
into just the tip for the ladies. That could be a funny thing though. I wonder I mean we're
like 2% female listeners if that. Yeah. But it would be funny to get some voicemail segments
of tips for the ladies. Yeah. Maybe we can just try to get the significant others to
on everyone. It's a random episode. Babe, babe, babe. Can you just call into the voicemail
please and leave us a tip? Yeah. Just one. We need just the tip for the ladies from the
ladies. Yep. It'd be fun. I'll get the assistant to do it. Okay. Yeah. We can do like once
a week. One of them. So they can trade off and do every other week. Yeah. I don't think
there's that much content that they have. They don't go out enough to have a tip. Right. I
don't know. Mine's unemployed now. So she might. Yeah. True. Temporary unemployed. Yeah. Technically,
she's still employed. Let's make them go out on a trip together with the kids and see what
happens. But we got to make sure and see if they're going to go wheeling or camping. Which one do
you think they would do? They would definitely go camping. Yeah. Yeah. But apparently if you go
overnight, that's camping. Yes. It's not wheeling, but it's not wheeling. Yeah. Yeah. So it doesn't
matter if you go wheeling. You go wheeling during the day to camp at night. Yeah. And then you're
camping overall. Yeah. If you have any clue or want to know what we're talking about, go listen
to episode 50. Well, is it 50 or 100? I think it was 50. God dang it. Jamie, turn your phone off.
Sorry. Thank you. That was my phone. Hi. Welcome back. Welcome back. Yeah. That was 50 or 100?
I think it was, no. Well, they're on every 50. So it's either 50 or 150. Oh, gotcha.
My guess is it was 50. I think it was episode 50. Yeah. Okay. When we originally had them on to
talk about camping and off-roading and we told them, yeah, they were like, you didn't tell us
we were talking about camping. We're like, well, it's the same thing. Yeah. Every off-road trip has
the potential to turn into a camping trip. So you should just plan on it being a camping trip.
And their answer was no, if it's not supposed to be a camping trip, don't let it turn into a
camping trip. Right. Okay. We'll control that. I think that's tip number one. That's our bonus
tip of the day for this podcast is every off-roading trip has the potential to turn
into a camping trip. 100%. All right. So let's see. Let's get into housekeeping stuff. Yeah.
We got some good stuff coming. Yeah. It says Monday, July 6 for everybody out there. Hopefully
you guys had a safe 4th of July weekend and everybody still has all their phalanges. Hopefully
that's true. Hopefully there was no more banana man's. Yeah. That's Memorial Day, isn't it?
Was that Memorial Day? It was the 4th of July. I think it was Memorial Day. Was it Memorial Day?
Moon rocks again. Yeah. Well, hopefully there's no more recreations of banana man for the July
here. So let's see Monday, which means we've got a fun informational infotainmental episode for
you guys today, but we are in a new month. We are in July now, beginning here of July,
which means we have a new giveaway this month and it's with Wolfbox. They're doing some cool stuff
with cameras and video screens for OHV recreation. And they've been doing it for a few years now.
And it's a pretty cool concept. OE manufacturers have been doing it for,
I think, a few more years beyond that, but they found a way to essentially add this technology
of a rear view video screen instead of a mirror and be able to be like an aftermarket add-on
to vehicles that didn't come with that option. Yeah. So it was kind of like their bread and
butter. They're venturing off into other stuff now, but this month's giveaway is with one of their
G900TPs, which is the TriPro, which means there's three cameras. It's a three-camera system,
one 4K camera, which is your reverse rear view camera, and then two 1080 cameras.
And so does that include the one that is a part of the unit that has the screen?
And quote, the mirror location. So it's that one and then two additional cameras. So you could
have a rear-facing camera and a front-facing camera, or really you can set up the two additional
cameras any way you want. And then there's the one that is in the unit that will be pointing
forward if you want to be looking at the screen. If you don't want to look at the screen, you can
point out the camera wherever you want. True. But yeah, it's a pretty cool little system.
I've really been enjoying the one in Fiona since Trail Hero X. There was some really
cool footage. I'm so bummed that we lost the footage from the dunes. That footage from the
dunes would have been so fucking cool to put into some videos, but we lost it. So shame on us.
But it has a 4K camera looking backwards. So you can get some footage of your buddies on a trail,
going up obstacles behind you in front of you. It makes it real easy to keep track of people
that are behind you, especially if you're like me and you load a bunch of shit to your roof in your
vehicle. And it has a really wide viewing angle, which did you notice that today when you were
driving it? No. But what I did notice is it didn't distract me. Oh, okay. Right? It's a screen.
It's not a mirror. I think we're all just used to mirrors. And the screen did not distract me
from driving. It was not a thing that made my eyes jump to it. It's just whenever I needed to go.
I don't know what that is. Why? Because I still, I cannot drive the Lexus with the
review camera going on the review mirror. The way you have it in Fiona is it's on top of the dash.
True. And I think that it's, I think that's just not a, your eyes are above it, you know,
and you're looking across it and down there. And the mirror is more in your eyesight level.
Okay. And that's my only guess. That's your guess? Yeah. I wonder if you put the wolf box up high
if it would distract you. That's a good question. I don't know. I don't want to rerun all the wiring
though. And I like it on the dash like that. Lee has his and his FJ80 on his dash. Okay. And
that's the first time I'd ever seen a review camera like on a dash instead of up high, right?
Cause it's always a review mirror you need. So driving, I got to drive Lee's FJ80
quarter mile when we went to the snow camping trip. Oh yeah. Yeah. So we came off and I
stopped the tracks on Kermit and had to go down to the trailer or bring the trailer up to Kermit.
Okay. Yeah. I have to drive Lee's FJ80 down to pick up the trailer and bring it back.
And I was like, I kind of like this right here. And that's kind of what got it going for me.
And then when we got the wolf box on trailer X, I was like, I like it down low like this.
Okay. Yeah. Makes sense. I've been liking it. I've been enjoying it. So yeah. And I do,
I want to talk about the lost footage, just because the one of the cool things that Wolfbox
does is it has an integrated, it has a built in, well, it has a memory card slot. Yeah. And I
believe the memory card, it was 250 gigs, 256 gigs is what ours came with. I don't know if
the giveaway, I think the giveaway is coming with SD cards or an SD card. So I don't know what size
they're sending. And it's recording all the time when the vehicle's on. Whenever the vehicle's on,
the camera is, all the cameras are recording. And that fills up a lot of data. And really,
it fills up about a day and a half is what I think is what it did. Yeah. I think we're just
approaching 24 hours is just over 24 hours and I was starting to delete the old footage.
And that's exactly where I was going. If you want to keep footage, there's a few tricks
to doing that. And we'll talk about that in the future. But if you don't
store the footage, pull the footage or lock the footage, it just starts rewriting over the top.
And so about for us, and we were driving a lot those days, it was about every 24 hours.
It was rewriting. And so when we did the dunes out at Silent Hollow and we're playing around in
the dunes the next day, we were like, oh, we should keep that footage, but it was already
past the point at which we were starting to rewrite over that stuff. But that is a feature
you can turn on or off. You can set it however you want. We just didn't want to change out
memory cards throughout the days. And so we just had it set to loop and repeat right over
itself. And it did. I'm not saying that's a fault of Wolfbox. It was more
our fault that we didn't pull the footage off that we wanted to keep. That's what I wanted to
clarify. So it's a cool device. I'm super excited to be working with them. I'm super excited for
the group buy that we are going to be doing. And so if you want to get yourself a Wolfbox or get
in line for one, I think we're doing 10. If we can sell 10 units, it's $10 off.
I want to say it's 20. 10 units is $20. 20 units is $30. 30 units is $40.
Oh, okay. Yeah. So yeah, every, so 10 units, $20, 30 units. No, it goes up by 10 each time.
Okay. So both of them go up by 10. Yep. Got it. So 10 units, $20, 20 units, $30.
30 units, $40. Yep. Got it. Okay. That's, that makes sense. It's just hard to say.
But so we are doing a group buy. If you are interested in the group buy, you can either
email us or we'll make a thread on the discord or there should be a thread by now on the discord.
You can just respond on there. Let us know how many units or what you want.
I think the giveaway though, or the group buys only for this 900.
It's just the G900TP. Correct. And then after the fact, we will have a discount code for you guys to
go online and buy whatever any of the Wolfbox stuff that you want.
Yeah. Anything that they have. So yep. So that's that. And that'll be for the month of July. So
we have a chance at winnings a Wolfbox G900 Trio pro, tri pro, tri pro. Try.
That's you haven't told July 31st. Go get signed up over on I rate four by four or on the discord.
All those subscription URLs are working now over on discord under support the podcast under that
channel. Just make sure you signed up before the end of the month. Once July, August first hits,
you will not be able to get in and get a chance anymore at the Wolfbox. So
let's see. What else do we also only running the group buy through this month?
This month is the discovery, quote unquote, who wants to be in, right? And then we typically
will run it for a month after we figure out who all wants to be in, right? So okay. Yeah. So you
have this month to sign up for the group buy at once we find out the group, who's interested in
the group buy and how many units we're going to get in the discount we're going to get. Then we'll
work with Wolfbox and we'll get a discount code, a specific discount code for those users. And then
you have all of August to make your purchase. And after August is complete, you're out of luck.
Yep. Correct. Okay. Sounds good. Cool. I believe though that they said they do want to do it.
General discount code for listeners so you can get other Wolfbox items.
And I would imagine that is going to be more of a permanent code that'll be around for a while.
Yes. So just stay tuned. We'll get that code out to you guys once we get the code confirmed
with Wolfbox. Exactly. Yep. Like we have with Divos and IceCo and all our other friends. Yep.
I think we're almost getting to the point where I just need to make a discount code page on the
website or something and not have it in every show notes. Just be like, if you're interested in the
discounts, click this page. Yeah. But we'll see. Yep. Cool. Let's see. What else do we
got going on? We got giveaway for reviews. Yes, we do. Going on as always. I'm pretty sure that
we're over 800 by now. If not, we are damn close. We'll find out on Thursday for you guys. But go
over and leave a review nonetheless because once you leave a review, you're automatically entered
for all of the giveaways we do from reviews into the future in perpetuity. So you just leave a
review once and it's the gift that keeps on giving chances to win some cool stuff. But for the 800,
we'll be giving away an Onyx Elite membership that you can add onto your current subscription for
Onyx or just tax on right at the end of it and extends your subscription for another year. If
you don't have a subscription with Onyx, you get a free one year elite membership out of it,
which is pretty cool. There's a lot of really neat features that Onyx has implemented into their
software. And we have a couple more that we need to tell them about and see if they'll implement
it soon. So anyways, that's 800 reviews. We're going to do the same thing at 850 reviews,
an Onyx Elite membership, and then a swag pack from Jimmy and I and some vendors that we've
worked with throughout the years. We have kind of a little stash of cool little hat stickers,
t-shirts, swag items, stuff like that. So we'll put together a little swag pack for you guys at
800, 850. And then at 900 reviews, we're doing a cool thing from Moor Flate. We're giving away
a big old Moor Flate care package that's in value of $900 or more for 900 reviews. So.
Yes. Exciting times. Yep. You saw the draft of the retail box of one item that we're getting ready
to launch. Yeah. I'm definitely getting in on that one as well. That one's pretty cool. I'm
pretty, that one I was not wanting to get into or expecting to get into, but it all just kind of
ended up working out and lining up and being pretty straightforward to do and pull off. So
without a ton of R&D. So we're throwing it in there and we're going to come out with it anyways.
Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Shouldn't it not too hard on your end? No. Just have some
backend things to figure out. A couple backend modifications to make it exactly how I want the
product. We're essentially starting with a white labeled product and then making a couple small
modifications to them. And we'll be able to get them launched pretty much pretty quickly. Sweet.
Yeah. Sounds good. Yeah. I think that's about it. I mean, there's always the discord out there.
If you guys want to get in contact with us sooner or jump into any of our random chats from trail
dogs to, jeez, there's been some other random chats on there in the general forums lately.
Some good stuff out there for sure. A lot of fun catching up with everybody on that forum.
And that's where we're also running the tokens are all through there. So actually,
I have a token I need to add to the list. Mr. Horton, Horton who smurfmobile
sent me another token that he hid. So that's fun. I have some token people that are interested in
hiding tokens. So I need to make another batch and send some more out to some people around.
I think this next one's going up to Oregon area. Cool. So that'll be, that'll be a lot of fun.
But all the token information and the group buy information and everything's all on the
discord. So if you want to keep up with everything we have going on there is probably the place.
That is probably the place. Nice. Yep. Did you see that somebody found the token I hid at the
really cool camp spot that I was talking about up there up above Lassen? I did. Yeah. The secluded
one that nobody was at. And I was like, this is a really well maintained campground. There's nobody
here. I don't get it. I was, I actually meant to ask you if you've removed that off the list.
I did. Okay, good. I removed it from the database there. So,
Cool. Perfect. I removed it from Onyx. I don't know if you have a spreadsheet
going. I did not remove it from any spreadsheets. I do have a spreadsheet,
but I'm not quite sure how the syncing of everything is working because it's working.
Yeah. It's not, not the easiest to track. No. So I think, yeah, I removed it from Onyx.
I think that my spread, this is information that only Tyler really needs to know. But I think my
spreadsheet now is more or less turning into who I am sending tokens to and not tracking all of them.
Okay. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. I did hide another token this weekend. Okay.
So we knew where we were two weekends ago. There is a token, a new token in that area. So
you guys can check that out and see if you want to go in and try and find it.
Sounds fun. Let's see. What else do we got going on?
Trevor, Clark can go on a hike and get like six of them. Yeah. Pretty much.
Yeah. What else do we got going on, man?
Not a lot. I think it's a good time to jump on over to the main topic.
Cool. All right. Then we'll take a quick break and we'll be right on back with
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we've got you covered. Welcome back ladies and gentle ladies to today's campfire discussion.
So this one's going to be kind of fun. I think we've done a few episodes already in the past.
I just looked at podcast addict and it says we have 864 episodes. So there's going to be a
time when we're just going to start repeating information, but I think that there's pretty
cool ways to tell a different story, a different side of that information and a different way to
frame that information. So it makes a little bit more sense and perspective to somebody else.
And I vote once we get to a thousand for episode 1000, we just sort of start over.
We'll just start with number one. Whatever we covered in episode number one is what 1000
and one will be. I wonder if we could do like 1001 through 10010 just to replay
episodes one through 10 and see if anybody notices. Yes, we can. Well, we can definitely
replay them. That's another question. Yeah. An episode 1000 will be our teaser episode.
Yeah. No one will figure it out. All right. So this episode here, we're going to talk about
tips for newbies on really like things about your vehicle when off-roading, ways to handle your
vehicle, what to do with your vehicle, safety tips for vehicles, things to consider when you're in
certain situations with vehicles. So it's kind of like if you've never been off-roading before,
these are kind of high level things to consider to think about.
There are tips and tricks that we would say to somebody out on the trail that is their first
time ever wheeling. I literally, yeah. When Jimmy put it that way as to like, what do we think of
when we're like telling people when we're out on a trail with a newbie? And I immediately thought
back to two people. One, Glutride Andy. Okay. And when we did the Glutride trip on the Rubicon.
And I let Andy drive Kermit. And I was like, what did I tell Andy while driving Kermit?
And the other one was, I think that was the Australian that randomly got sent to us from
somebody that was like, oh, you want to go on the Rubicon? Go talk to these two guys. And we
randomly had the day available that he was going to be in the area. We just took him out on the
Rubicon. That was pretty awesome. The other one I was thinking of was Samurai James.
Oh, that's another good one. Okay. Who is dove head first into the whole off-roading thing and
probably could teach us a few things now. But he didn't start until late in his life.
His first off-roading trip ever driving was on the Rubicon. Yeah, exactly. So that's sort of
where this idea came from is like, if somebody is considering driving an off-road vehicle for
the first time on an off-road trail, what are tips and tricks that we can tell them?
Yeah. Yeah. Before we start, I do want to, you kind of alluded to it, but we've kind of covered
some of this stuff in the past. We've covered some similar things in the past. Episode 306 is
tips and tricks for your first trip on the Rubicon. I think that's an interesting episode that
could tie right into some of this stuff. It's more about the Rubicon than the driving, right?
So that's a good one. That's a little bit more has to do with the terrain,
some of the cool things to do and see on the trail and how to navigate that particular trail as a
movie. Yeah. The next three, we did a three-part series, but it got spread out like over a month.
And I didn't write down the titles of every one, but episode, and I'll have all this down in the
list on it to remember. Episode 646, 654, and 656 was part 12 and three of just off-road,
beginning off-road tips and tricks to some level from planning a trip to executing the trip
to adaptations and stuff like that. That was kind of how we laid it all out.
The last one I have is, I don't know why it didn't have a episode number.
Maybe it was just a bonus episode or something, but it is 15 off-road safety tips.
And I'll put a link down below, but it came out in June of 2025.
Those are all excellent episodes that kind of pair right into this one.
Our goal is, I told Tyler, I'm like, I'm pretty sure we've done this before. So I started
researching our own episodes to see if we have. And we kind of didn't, we never took it as like
tips and tricks for driving necessarily for a newbie. But I found all these that I think
paired in rather nicely. So if you found this to be a good episode, go listen to some of those as
well. Yeah. I agree. I think that works out really well. It's kind of a precursor. And maybe you're
brand new to the podcast here, just finding us this late when we're on episode 722.
And you're like, that was kind of a cool episode. It had a lot of information that was very
relevant to me kind of thing. Then you can go back and check out these other episodes too,
because there's a lot of really good information in those.
It's a whole bird walk here. We like bird walks here on the podcast.
I listened to another episode and he has a thing on his website where you type in like,
he asks you like three to five questions or something. And then he gathers your answers
to those questions and then he curates a podcast playlist for you. Interesting.
We have enough backlog of episodes now that if you come to us and you'd be like,
I want to learn how to become a better off-roader, we have episodes for you.
That would be really interesting to do. All about the Rubicon, we have episodes for you.
Like you want to learn history of off-road trails, we have episodes for you. It would be,
I cannot imagine the workload that would go into cataloging all that stuff.
It wouldn't be too bad with AI nowadays. Yeah, maybe not, but I have to use up a lot of water though.
Yeah, probably. But I think it would be a neat thing to do be like,
hey, you enjoy a podcast. Let me create a playlist for you.
Yeah, that'd be neat. That would be a really cool feature and I totally think it could be
doable with our catalog. Yeah, for sure. Anyways, moving on.
Let's dig in, dive in, jump in, crawl in. I don't know, whatever. I almost said euphemism.
Those are not euphemisms. It's a different ism. So what do we got? What are you laughing at?
Your isms. My isms. My tism for isms. We've got a lot of isms.
Thank you, sir. My wife tells me that every day.
Yeah, we got a list of 10 here. There's probably some bonus ones that we'll be
tossing in in the mix because I know one of them has like two or three
subtitles to it or subcategories in it. They're in no particular order. They're just sort of
what came to our head at that time. But I think I'd like to start with on this list,
which happens to be number nine, seatbelt. Yep. Seatbelt Nazi over here.
Yep. 100%. I saw no less than four to five people
over during Rubathon that were not wearing their seatbelts. And I was like, you guys.
Yeah, come on. Seatbelt, seatbelt, seatbelt, seatbelt is probably the number one safety
thing that you can have in your vehicle. Make sure it's a, you know, if you've done any
modifications to your vehicle, make sure it's attached well. If your vehicle's stock,
I'm sure it's attached well. But the thing is just always wear it. If you got to move your vehicle
two feet because you're blocking somebody or you're just not, you're in a funky little spot,
you want to move it before you hop out or whatever, just always put that seatbelt on.
You don't know what's going to happen. I mean, there's been stories, you know, people just
moving a few inches and their vehicle slides off a rock or down a hill or does something,
rolls over, flops, you know, and you can get crushed. You can get some head injuries. You can
get me headed. You can get me headed death. You know, there's a lot of things that can go wrong
where if you had your seatbelt on, the likelihood of the worst case scenario happiness
way down. I did watch a video on Instagram of somebody that probably was not seatbelted in
because they had some sort of dash cam. And when the vehicle rolled over, they were not
in the same direction of their seat. Nope. But there they, somebody from outside was like,
hey, you all right? And the guy's like, I'm fine, but my hair is caught under the roll bar.
Oh, that's right. I did see that one too. Yeah. And I'm like, I don't think if that guy was buckled
in, if that would have been a problem. Yeah. That's what I took away from it. So yeah, seatbelt,
seatbelt, seatbelt, no matter what, make sure all your vehicle or all the people in your vehicle
have their seatbelts on. Don't move, start moving your vehicle until your seatbelts are,
all the seatbelts are on. Always put your seatbelt on and, and the flip side,
don't take your seatbelt out until you come to a complete stop and stop the engine.
Yep. And have the vehicle in park or whatever you need to do to make sure it's not moving
when the engine is off. Yeah. It's just, there's, we're, we're in weird environments. We're out on
rocks that like to move. We're out on dirt hills that, and dirt can slide away. You're, you're,
there's just too many things that can go wrong. There's too many variables to control and the
simplest, most effective way to keep yourself safe with, safe with all those variables is a
seatbelt. Yep. And it's, it's not like a seatbelt doesn't like seatbelts nowadays. They don't
hinder, they don't hinder you unless you have like a five point harness or something that definitely
hinder your movement and looking around everything. But like a regular shoulder strap three point
seatbelt is not going to hinder too much of whatever you need to do in a vehicle compared
to keeping you in your seat in the, in the case of a bad accident. Right. So it's very seatbelt
please. Yes. 100%. I think the next one will go up one because this is one that you suggested
and it kind of goes right in line with this. It's not so much personal safety as this other
people's safety and a little bit personal safety. You know, which one I'm talking about? Yep, I do.
Go for it. Anytime you're going to start a vehicle, please be seated in the driver's seat
with full control of all controls of the vehicle. I don't care if you have an automatic, a manual,
um, whether you think you have a full reach and range of the clutch pedal, whether you think
it's in gear or not in park neutral. I don't give a shit what it is. Please just be
in the driver's seat in complete control when going to start a vehicle with your seatbelt on
with your seatbelt on because there was an instance out a little sluice where somebody
did jump in the vehicle to have control of the vehicle when they started it and,
but they didn't have the seatbelt on. And when they started it, it was in gear and it rolled
off of the top of little sluice and down into the sluice box. Person was not buckled in and they
were no longer around. Yep. So, um, you know, we have a really good friend CJ with CJ, um,
who got crushed between two vehicles, um, because the vehicle was started up and, uh, it was thought
that the vehicle was in neutral, but it was in gear in four low. Um, and we, I just heard another
story recently of that, that happening again. I forgot. Same exact thing.
They thought that it was in neutral. They just reached in to start, turn the key and it was in
gear. So, um, I don't remember if anybody got horribly injured on that one. If they got
crushed or not, they got, they were in the hospital for sure for your extended period of time.
Yeah. Um, that was a listener of ours. Oh, was it? They reached out to tell us the story and we
said, we know, we know this story. And yeah, this, you know, I think we talked about it like,
yeah, our friend CJ with the CJ, um, you know, it was a pure accident all around 100% pure
accident. And that's the thing. It's like, if you're in control of the vehicle, if you're in
the vehicle and you have your hand on the, you know, the manual transmission, your foot on the
brake, the clutch or whatever, you know, or it's in park, you just make sure all those things have
your foot on the brake before you start the vehicle. Just be in full control of the vehicle
before you start it. Yeah. It saves other people around you. It could save
your vehicle. You know, it's just the smart thing to do. Yep. I always, I don't care what vehicle
I'm in. I always have my foot on the brake when I'm starting it. And that's one of the safety
features of push button vehicles from the factory is you have to have the brake depressed in order
to push start the push button on vehicles nowadays. And that's where that stems from is
you just, you have something keeping control of the vehicle. I even got in Fiona this last
weekend out of two weeks ago out at Rubathon. Yeah. And at one point I went to start the vehicle
and I went to put my foot on the clutch to start it. It's like an automatic. My foot does. I was
like, Oh yeah, there's no pedal over here, but it's such an instinctual thing to hit the clutch
in the brake when I'm starting an off-road vehicle that it's just in second nature and I caught
myself doing it in Fiona. Oh yeah. Bobcat and Charlotte are both manuals. And so when I go
drive the wife's car, I'm always like, we're getting ready to downshift. I'm like, wait,
you don't have a manual. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing. Yeah. So those two go right hand in hand, right?
You know, it's super simple. Always be wearing your seatbelt. You get in the vehicle, throw
your seatbelt on. I know that my parents just bought a brand new Prius Prime. They call it grandma
because it always nags at them. But the thing is, as soon as they start the vehicle, as if you don't
have your seatbelt on, it starts chiming really bad. And so it's actually trained them to now put
their seatbelt on before they start the car because they don't want the chimes happening.
That's funny. Yeah. But it's, and I'm like, good. Like, you know, and my parents were like, well,
we always put it on before we started moving, you know, and I'm like, well, it's even better
now that you're putting it on before you even start the vehicle. And so yeah, these go right
hand in hand. Wear your seatbelts, put your seatbelts on, put them on before you start driving.
Always have them like put it on before you move that vehicle. And yeah, be in full control of
the vehicle before you start it. Whether or not if you're in a sketchy situation when your vehicle
is all flexed out and nasty and, you know, looks awesome in a photo for IG, or if you're just
on the flats at camp, just be in full control of it at all times. Yeah. Awesome. So two big tips
for newbies. Yes. One big tip from Jimmy, one big tip from me. If you're a newbie and going off
roading, I think those are the two kind of the biggest, most important ones. Like if you don't
get anything else from this episode, I hope you get somebody gets those two things. So sure.
Yeah. I think the next one, let's just kind of, let's do something a little bit more mellow.
Okay. A little bit, a little bit more relaxed. A little bit more fun. I have desk down here,
hydration and sunscreen. Yeah, that's a great one. Yeah. I'm really bad at it because I'm not
really bad. My body reacts really bad to dehydration and heat and direct sunlight, right? So I have to
stay super aware of this while I'm on the trail. And I think it's really easy too when you're
wheeling along and you're a multi-day wheeling trip to forget about your water intake.
Absolutely. You know, you have a few beers at camp at night. You're like, oh, I got some to drink
and your drink, there's almost all water, pretty much water. And so, and then you kind of go in
and the next day you get, you know, three quarters of the way through the day and you're like, oh,
we're getting ready to go to camp or something like that. Or we're getting into camp. You're
another couple beers and before you know it, you've gone two days without any water.
And it's really easy to lose track of that. And I, I'm really bad at that. And I have to pay
very close attention to my water intake and direct sunlight exposure. So yeah, anytime you're going
on a trip, just I have in both, in all my vehicles, I have at least two to three bottles of sunscreen
in every single vehicle because I just, I have to stay out of direct sunlight.
And so yeah, know what that level is for yourself, figure it out and act appropriately on your
trips and be considering those things during your trips. Yeah.
Yeah. I know that both you and I enjoy getting like a flat of water, like the 16.9 water bottles.
Probably not the best thing for the environment. But what I enjoy about that, and I'm putting
words in your mouth because I think you're in the same area as I am, is that it's really easy
just to grab one of those bottles and drink it where if you have like a gallon jug or a few
gallon jugs and then you have like a Nalgene water bottle, maybe you drink your Nalgene
water bottle down, but now you got to fill it up and you got to stop and maybe arrange the
vehicle, pull the jug out, pour your water out where it's really easy just to grab one of those
water bottles and drink it. And when you're done, you smash it down, tighten the lid on and it stays
smashed down, become a little water bottle trash pile. Right. And so to me, it's really nice to
have that flat because I make it easy on myself to stay hydrated. And the easier and simpler,
more convenient it is to stay hydrated, the more likely you will do it. Exactly.
Now, there's many ways to do it. Maybe like I've been bringing 11 gallon jug so I can fill
up water bottles or, you know, use it to cook with or something, but then while I'm out on the
trail, I'm enjoying the 16.9 bottles because those are easier to grab and like I can drink one of
those fairly quickly and a quick stop and then crush the bottle and then, you know, get in the
rig and continue on or just grab it and throw it in the rig somewhere and, you know, they're pretty
easy to stash away. So just find something that works for you. You know, try different,
few different methods as you're doing it and just learn as you go. In regards to sun exposure,
find different ways to stay out of the sun. Maybe you need a hat or a sombrero or those like
very light t-shirts or like kind of collared shirts that have UV protective
cloth in them or whatever that, you know, wicks your sweat away really quick, you know,
or always can't buy water, you know, so you can jump in and cool off.
That's one of my strategies. Yeah. For sure. You know, or just, you know,
stay out of the sunny side, you know, and just, you know, I don't know, drive whenever the sun's
on the opposite side of the vehicle. I actually only go out at night time. I don't come out during
the day. Yeah, this is vampire. Yeah, got it. You got bad blood or something. So it's, you know,
that was pretty bad. Sorry. Find these tips or tricks for you and works well for you and just,
you know, either modify them or if you find something that works really well, just keep it
going the entire time. But staying hydrated is great for, on an ends, reducing or moderating
your sun exposure. It's just really important because it's just going to allow you to stay
focused longer on the trip. You'll be able to be a better driver. You won't be getting tired as
fast. You know, you'll just, you'll be able to pay attention to the thing when it's necessary,
necessary, excuse me, in those moments, you know, whether the train changes or you need to do something
really quick, you'll have that attention span and you won't be tired and fatigued and like,
you know, dizzy or whatever it is. So yeah, all of that is very important just for the overall
trip, especially if you've gone multiple days, you're not drinking water or dehydrated, just
to be tired and not having a great time. You know, and I guess the easiest way and probably
most effective way to see if you're hydrated is your pee. A lot of people will talk about,
oh, you need a certain amount of water or you need a certain amount of hydration or,
you know, you're supposed to drink, you know, one fluid ounce for every pound you weigh or
whatever it is. No, a lot of that doesn't matter. A lot of it comes down to just making sure your
urine is clean and clear and not bright yellow or even a tint of yellow. Technically it should be
dark brown or any of those things. Yeah. Just make sure you're, yeah,
make sure your pee is clean and clear and that's your high, that's how your metric for staying
hydrated. Yeah, I definitely have to pay attention to that. I like, I'll get into like day two of a
trip and like, oh man, my pee is dark today. I need to go down some water, man.
Yeah. Why was I drinking whiskey all night? Yeah, seriously. Yeah. So, yeah, that's a
definitely an important one. I mean, all these are pretty important, but that's a safety tip
for the trip and everything. So, cool. Well, I say now we jump kind of up to the top. Those were
kind of life ones. Okay. Health related, yeah. Health related, life related, a little vehicle
related, but now we're going to jump more into vehicle stuff. So, the first one we wrote down,
which is now number four, is gears on descent. Yeah. That's a really good one. I think that's
probably one of the biggest things that newbies that I've been wheeling with
don't understand or don't, it doesn't occur, right? It's something that is a new concept
they haven't thought about before is if you're descending a hill, descending a descent,
you're coming down something. Everybody thinks of use your brakes. Yeah. Right? You want to use
your brakes, just ride your brakes to come down because you need to slow yourself down.
A lot of off-road vehicles, you can use your gears to slow you down. And what that does,
there's a couple of things that that does for you. One is by letting your engine control your descent
and using the gears in your transmission to go down to as low of a gear as possible
to control your descent, that you have more consistent control of the vehicle
while you're doing this maneuver, whatever it is. And then the other thing that adds to you is
if you need to put on the brakes, there's a lot less out of control that you're having to correct
by using the brakes, right? So, if you're like in drive, fifth gear, whatever in your transmission,
automatic or manual, going down a descent, your vehicle can kind of get into a runaway mode pretty
quickly. I never realized how quickly automatics can get into runaway mode until I have Fiona now.
And it's been amazing to me how quickly the drivetrain cuts out and you're no longer connected
to your drivetrain. Your transmission is no longer controlling your descent. So, being able to take
and drop your automatic transmission out of drive and down into the lowest gears you can get one or
two, that's going to do so much to control your descent so that you're not having to depend on
your brakes or risk getting into that runaway mode and have to use your brakes to correct it.
Absolutely. And it's kind of obvious with a manual transmission.
Yeah, but it's never really super obvious to new people coming into this hobby
that you can do that with an automatic transmission too.
My father told me one time a phrase or some off-roading vehicle knowledge that's always
sort of stuck with me and it was, whatever gear you want, that whatever gear you're using to go
up the hill, this is the gear you want to be using to go down the hill.
Okay. I've never heard of it that way, but it makes sense.
So, if you're going up the hill and you're in first gear, that's probably the gear you
want to be in when you're going down the hill. But if it's a smoother, straight-up hill, then you
can do it in third gear, then you probably only need to be in third gear to go down the hill.
Yeah. That's a good way of putting it. I've never heard that before.
Yeah. It's that old man's kind of wise once in a while.
So, I think it's just a good one. And the basis is you're just in control of the vehicle,
like that you're in more control. You're using the gears to help control you, slow you down.
If you need to blip the throttle, you definitely can and you're not going to overdo anything.
But if you're in the highest gear possible and like, or you're in an automatic and it's just
shifting gears for you, the vehicle can go faster than you want it to be going.
And you're always having to apply the brakes. And I think kind of a flip side to this is,
if you're on a very long downhill and you're always on your brakes, there could be a point
to time when you get a bunch of brake fade, which is your brakes aren't working as well as they
could be or should be. And or worst case scenario, brakes fail. And now you're just flying down the
hill. So, using the gears to control your descent is a tip and trick that I think is super important
and newbies don't think about it. Yeah. The cool thing about gearing is it does two things for
you, right? Gearing increases the amount of torque out of your drivetrain. Yep. And another way to
think about that torque moves the vehicle, right? So if you have more torque, it's easier to move
the vehicle, right? Okay. Another way to think about torque is reducing how much the vehicle
weighs conceptually to the drivetrain. Okay. Sure. So you can, if you have more torque,
it's easier to move the vehicle. Therefore, the drivetrain thinks the vehicle's lighter, right?
Okay. So a way to think about that is if you're, if you have a vehicle that weighs 5,000 pounds
and your crawl ratio is a stock 60 to one crawl ratio, then you could think of 5,000 divided by
60. What is that? 1,100? No. 88.3. So then your drivetrain would think that you're roughly quote,
unquote, 88.3. That's your pounds ratio for torque to pounds, right? Whereas if you have
crawl gears and you have a deeper first gear and your gear ratio that you're running at is 200 to
1. I did 245. I was trying to get ahead of you. 25. Your vehicle, your drivetrain now thinks your
vehicle weighs roughly 25 pounds, right? That's your weight to gear ratio is roughly 25 pounds.
Yeah. So it makes it easier on the vehicle. It makes it easier for the vehicle and less
weight is going to go downhill slower, typically with gravity. So that's another way to think of
how gearing impacts your downhill descent and control of a vehicle. Sure. Absolutely. While
we're talking about control, let's jump over to vehicle control, different ways that you can control
the vehicle. Yeah. So like you mean like different ways, like different variables you have for tools
on the vehicle too? I think where we were going with that, we have, I have written down gears,
lockers, no clutch. Okay. Like no foot on the clutch. Yeah. So when you're, I'm a big fan of
when I take newbies out off-roading is to make them play around with all the tools that we have
available to control and make the vehicle be successful in any given scenario, right? So
if you're in a really fancy vehicle, you've got front dig versus rear dig, right? You've got
cutting brakes, maybe it could be a tool. You have winches or a tool, which is I think
another thing that a lot of people don't think of them as a tool. Yeah. It's another tool. Cheating.
Yeah, right? Which is not. No, it's a tool to help you still be, continue being successful in a vehicle.
And then clutches, a big one that whenever I get a newbie out on a trail in a manual transmission,
inevitably they end up kind of like feathering the clutch constantly. And I constantly, I'm like
looking down to see what their feet are doing, right? And the down in the driver's wheel while
they're in the floorboard. And I'll be like, get your foot off the clutch, get your foot off the
clutch, put your foot on the floorboard, you know, use the engine. Your engine and gearing is a
massive, massive tool in the vehicle. Especially when you have, I mean, this is really catering
towards like the mini trucks, four runners and things that have all the gears and all the torque.
Yeah. Right. A four speed Atlas vehicles. If you have the gearing to deal with the rocks that you
don't have to have your foot on the clutch, that is optimal. For sure. I can't talk about the heaps
or anything there, any of those other vehicles. So manual transmissions, keep your foot off the
clutch, keep it on the floor, let the engine do the work. Don't force your clutch to do the work
of the vehicle. Your engine and drivetrain is way stronger than just your clutch is. So
let the engine and the drivetrain do the work. Keep your foot on the floorboard,
keep it off the clutch. And then lockers. I love, I love getting newbies into scenarios where I know
they're going to get kind of crossed over and they're going to stop proceeding unlocked. Yes.
With their differentials unlocked and then put them into that scenario. And then if you have
e-lockers back up 10 feet and do it again with lockers on, or if you have air lockers, just turn
them on and watch what happens. And you can feel from when there's no traction and things are not
going anywhere to all of a sudden when everything locks up and you can feel each individual corner
grab and pull the vehicle through the obstacle. It's a really cool feeling to experience while
somebody's making you hyper focus on that feeling. Yeah. And so being able to understand
what the locker is doing at that time is a pretty cool thing. And then I like to have people try
out and put them in scenarios where their front locker is going to make or break an obstacle or
a rear locker is going to make them make or break an obstacle. So they can be going up and the front
is locked, but the rear is open and you get the rear crossed over and all of a sudden you're no
longer proceeding or something. What are those scenarios that makes the rear lock up all of a
sudden be successful? And what are those scenarios where if you're trying to climb something, say
you're trying to climb a step or a ledge and open is not working, cutting it in the front end,
what happens when you lock up the front end and how much easier is it to climb now?
So I like to have newbies play around with the different tools that a vehicle has.
I just changed the title to Vehicle Tools. Oh, there you go. Vehicle Control. Because I think
that's really what it kind of comes down to is learn and understand the tools that you're
control or that you have control over. Right? If you have cutting breaks or if you have rear dig
or if you have a winch or if you have lockers or if you have gearing, just learn how and when to
use them. And you're not going to learn that without going out and going to do some of this
stuff. For sure. Right? So you need to go out and explore and you need to go out and play so that
you can understand of what all these tools do. And once you get an understanding of the tools
that you're exposure, that you have, then you'll become a better wheeler overall.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And there's ways that you can play with the break to
help with open, open scenarios. Right? So there's different things you can do with
different throttle inputs. You know, what RPM do you need to be to go over this type of obstacle
versus an RPM to get over this type of obstacle? So it's all everything in a vehicle that you can
control from throttle, brake, clutch, lockers, digs, drivetrain cutoffs, lights. Lights are a
tool. If you have rock lights, man, you can't see shit where you're going and what you're doing,
get some lights on and be able to see what you're doing. It's another tool, right? So
being able to know how to manipulate all those tools, what they do, how they help, what variables
they help control or change, and then how to apply those in real-world scenarios while you're
out wheeling. Yep. So exactly. Cool. Well, the next one I have is tires on rocks. We kind of
have a few different ones that have to do with tires. I think we'll just start with tires on
rocks and we'll kind of work our way down. The big thing about tires on rocks is you don't want to
try and put your vehicle in a situation where you get turtled. Turtled is when you like run over a
rock on your belly and your four tires can't touch the ground and you don't have enough grip to get
you on or off of that rock anymore and you're stuck. Or that rock gets up into really important
components like transfer cases, transmissions, oil pans, differentials, drive shafts. So it's
always better to have your tire on the rocks. It's a weird concept. Most people want to straddle
things, but if you think you want to stay on the road, you want to stay on the dirt, the pavement,
the solid ground, that's where you want to stay because that's what we think of when we drive a
vehicle, right? Absolutely. But really what it comes down to is sometimes you need to put your
vehicle on the bigger rock so you can clear the rock that's going to get you stuck. So having an
understanding of tires on rocks, don't always try to spread the gap. Don't always try to just clear
with your belly pan. Don't always, you know, I don't know what other really situations there are,
but just get those tires up. I have always told people when I've gone out with beginners is put
your driver side tire on the highest rock. Yeah. Just always whatever, if you're coming up to an
obstacle, note and know what your vehicle can do, right? First of all, put your tire on the bigger
rock and go over that with your driver side tire and then go over that with your driver side rear
tire, right? And then you know you're going to be clearing everything else underneath you because
that's the big rock. And as long as you have the ground clearance to make sure that you're clearing
it under your rock slider or the side of your vehicle, yeah, you're going to be fine the whole
entire way. I think a lot of that kind of goes into, I don't think we, oh, we do have diffs on
here, but just understand like the ground clearance. Yeah. I'll breeze over that because
we do have it on this list. Anything else necessarily for tires on rocks before we go over
to other tire things? That's really what it is. When I remember wheeling as a kid with my dad
in the Shaver Lake area, right? And he would always tell people, put your foot on the rock.
Yeah. Put your foot on the rock. Step up. Step up on the rock. Put your foot on the rock. You'd
constantly say that and it never like truly sunk in what that really meant until I started
off-roading on my own in my adult life. So, yeah. Tire on rock. Tire on rock, man. Climate.
Yeah. I think the next thing we have is tire placement. Okay. This is more of just understanding
where your tires are in relation to where you are in the vehicle. Okay. Yeah. So, if you're coming
up and because we can't typically see our tires, right? From inside of most OEM vehicles, right?
You can take your doors off or have half doors and lean out and look at your driver's side,
but you're not doing that on the pasture side. If you have a buggy and you set up your vision
and sights properly, you can see all four your tires, but even a lot of buggies,
you can't see all four your tires. Right. So, understanding where your tires are in
relation to where you sit as the driver, I think is an extremely important concept that
from your first trip out, you should be trying to nail down and understand.
I remember when I went on, when Kermit was on Toyota Axles,
wheeled on Toyota Axles for five or six years. 76 years, I think. How long did I have the
first gen? I got the first gen for four years and then I had Kermit on Toyota Axles for two to
three years before swapped it. So maybe eight years, 78 years on Toyota Axles. And
then when I built my Ford Tundra Super Duty Axles, they were 14 inches wider than the Toyota Axles.
And that first month of wheeling, I think I went on three trips that month of having Kermit done.
And I beat my wheels to shit. You ran into everything. I hit everything constantly. And I
was like, oh my God, I feel like a newbie again. Like I have no clue where my tires are. And it
took me a while to figure that out. And still to this day, I'll be driving, you know, Fiona or Kermit
down a trail and think I'm clear and I'll just barely scrape a rock or hit it real quick. I'm like,
dang it, my tires are wide, man. So understanding where your tires sit in relation to where you are
in the vehicle is a very key concept in off-roading. And you know, so as soon as you start getting ready
for your first trip, going out on a trip or anything like that, start playing around with
tire placement, try and pick a rock in the trail and be like, I got to put my tire on a rock, right?
Climb the rock, put your foot on the rock and see if you can hit it. See if you can hit it with
your tires, then start playing games with yourself of, okay, I got the front driver tire down. I
know where that one is. That's usually the easiest one to get to and figure out. Then you start
figuring out, okay, where's my front passenger tire? And then where's my rear driver tire?
How does my rear driver react when I'm turning? What's the turn radius difference compared to
the front end kind of thing? That's the next one on the list. And then, you know, that rear
passenger is typically the hardest one to get down a lot of times. I don't think I ever still pay
attention or know exactly where my rear passenger tire is all the time. I do. I purposefully put
my rear passenger tire on rocks. I do it all the time and that's because a lot of the, I'll be off,
I try it whenever I'm on an off camber situation. I'll put the rear tire up on a rock to level
me out. Okay. And that's like, I'll take corners extra sharp so I can get that rear tire up and
level me out in some, in few situations. So even spots on the Rubicon, I do it. Yeah. And that kind
of leads into the next one is I have rear tires on turns. And a lot of that comes down to me is a lot
of people will take corners too sharp. They're only concerned about the front two tires. I need to get
around this corner, right? But then you don't, a lot of off-roading is understanding where your rear
tires are and what your rear tires are going to do in the obstacle, right? It's one thing to be like
driving in a parking lot and you've got to drive around a concrete pillar, right? And you could
take that corner really sharp, but then you're going to hit your body on that pillar and you're
going to mess up the rest of your vehicle where, or you could take that corner a little bit wider
so that the rear of your vehicle makes it around the pillar. And a lot of people forget that concept
when they're off-roading. They're like, I got to squeeze between these two trees. And they only
put their front two tires between the trees and then they keep turning and they're like,
well, what's the rest of your vehicle going to be doing, right? So I think that, and I guess this
kind of goes one in the same tire placement, but in my opinion, understanding where your rear tires
are is more important than not knowing where your front tires are because you could get messed up
in an obstacle, in a round trees, through a rock garden, really easy if you don't know
how to control where your rear tires are going to go. Yeah, it's easy to line up the front end so
that your diff doesn't hit a rock, right? That you're not straddling rocks, but if you're having
a turn in the middle of this obstacle, you know, what is your, there's now all of a sudden your
drive shaft going to be in that rock, your rear drive shaft as you come through that obstacle,
that section where you have to turn, right? That's a, and it's the longer your wheelbase is,
the more that turn radius gets fucked up. Yeah. So if you drive a CJ, you know,
that the rear end kind of follows the front end pretty well. That's 70 inch wheelbase, right?
80 inch wheelbase. Whereas if you drive Bobcat, that's 128 inch wheelbase,
that your, your rear end does not follow the front end and you have to pay very close attention
to what's going on. Absolutely. Yep. Yeah. So there's a few things there about tires,
like tires on the rocks, you know, making sure that you're clearing the, or you're undercarriage,
get those, the tire on the rock gets you up higher. You're clearing things underneath
tire placement, understanding where all four of your tires are, understanding what's happening
with your tires in different situations. And then in my opinion, the rear tire are the most
important. And I have that as a completely separate item, just on rear tires, on turns,
rear tires in the obstacles, right? Because you need, it's easy to understand what's going on
in the front. It's hard to figure out or to understand what's going to go on in the rear
and getting those in there. So, and a lot of that, a lot, the importance of your tire placement falls
right into kind of our next one, which is differentials. And, and I would even throw in
undercarriage, right? Yeah. A lot of tire placement, tire maneuverability, tire, like
turning and everything, all a lot of that comes down to understanding how much clearance you
have underneath your vehicle so that you can continue to move forward. Yep. Yeah. Metal
does not typically move on, on rocks very well. It likes to, it likes to gouge.
UHMW moves recently on rocks. It's not bad yet. But yeah, metal on rock tends to gouge and like
dig in almost. So, to both surfaces. To both surfaces. Exactly. So yeah, the more you can
keep the metal off the rocks is really kind of the goal. And that comes to understanding
break over angles, approach angles, departure angles, where your low hanging fruit is for
your differentials, your low hanging fruit for your skid plates and your low hanging
fruit on your frame and bumpers, right? So, knowing about roughly how much clearance you have
and understanding that as you're looking at objects in your path is a big, big, I mean,
is, is remembering where those objects are, right? So not only just knowing your clearances, but,
you know, as you're driving down a trail, Jimmy and I talk about this all the time.
It's, it's a game of remembering where all the rocks are and how long, how far down the trail
can you look and remember where those rocks are as you're going. So like, I like to play a game
sometimes where I will look down the trail and kind of just take a mental snapshot of everything
on the trail and then close my eyes and see if I can visualize driving down this trail and know,
okay, I should be coming up on a rock on my passenger side pretty soon. Okay, there it is.
I should be going up roughly a foot. Okay, there it is. And like, no, I need to turn driver.
So I like to kind of play that game with myself every once in a while. We'll just take a mental
snapshot of everything in front of me and then see if I can drive that with my eyes closed.
You just stole my bonus. You and I have talked about that multiple times.
Memorize, you have to look forward because once again, you have to know where you're going to be
going and where those tires and what, where, what position you need to put yourself in
all while knowing what's literally right in front of you that you're about to drive over.
And it is, it's a, it's a game and that's how I see it. It's a mental gymnastics.
memory game and it's hard. And when you're done with the day, man, you are tired because you've
been running through your mind all day of like, here's literally what's in front of me and what
I'm going to do. But then 10 feet in front of me, I need to be over on more on the driver's side so
then I can hit that rock and then 20 feet in front of me, it drops and I'm not quite sure what's
going to happen after that. You know, and you're just like, so what do I, how do I position myself
and how do I continue to move forward? But kind of constantly and that's the entire trail. And if
it's a smooth fire road that, you know, isn't that bad? You're still looking for potholes, ruts,
what's the moving log sticking out on the side that can hit your tires, puncture. Exactly. And
the faster you're going, the quicker those things are coming. The more you're playing that game,
the farther you have to read ahead. Yeah. And the more difficult the terrain,
the more you're doing it as well. You know, it's not all as easy as driving on a road,
that's for sure. But yeah, you have to know your ground clearances. And I think one of the
important things is you have to know where your differentials are because sometimes some vehicles
are your front differentials on the passenger side. Some vehicles, it's on the driver's side.
Some vehicles have an offset rear differential, you know, and so all the differentials could be
more to the driver's side or more to the passenger side. So that means in a way you have ever so
slightly more ground clearance underneath your axles, wherever your differential is not.
Correct. So you can clear a little bit higher things. Sometimes you might drive over something
and you're like, I can clear that and then boom, you stop because you hit your differential. Well,
if you know where the differential is, you know that you can just, oh, I need to go a little bit
more driver or passenger to clear that rock and then, you know, or go back to whatever number
six or whatever, put your tire on the rock and then you know you're going to clear it.
But understanding where your differentials are helps you go down the trail easier and understanding
those ground clearances helps you be able to continue down the trail easier. Yeah.
Two examples of kind of this section we're just talking about here. I was going up
Deer Valley one time from south to north, right? So you have that big climb at the beginning. Yeah.
And there was a guy that had a front facing camera in an FJ cruiser. Oh, okay. I think you
were, I don't know if you're on that trip. I don't know. But he was driving only by the camera.
And so like he could see when objects were right in front of him and how he needed to line up his
tires. Sure. But what he ended up doing was he was so focused on that and not planning ahead
and looking down the trail to see what position he needed the truck in.
He would hit those rocks, come over them and then be completely fucked for the next ones.
For sure. And he did that like six or seven times before I was like,
stop using your camera. You need to look out your windshield and drive by looking at your
windshield and remember where stuff is rather than only be looking five feet in front of you
and trying to drive that way. Yeah. So that was the big eye-opener to me of how important it is
to constantly be scanning and looking and memorizing the trail ahead of you.
And then the second one is how mentally taxing that is to do that all day long
was Isaiah at Trail Hero X. Remember the rock crawling day up the canyon? And when we got to
camp that night, he was like, I was a little concerned. He had like a headache because he was
concentrating and driving a vehicle that he's not used to and through kind of train that he's not
used to for and memorizing the trail and doing all this mental gymnastics the entire day. He
had a headache and he put himself to bed early. Yep. He was out of it. Like he was not replying
to people. He looked bad and we were just like, are you- You need to drink. stay hydrated.
Yeah. You don't realize how much energy you use when off-roading as a driver.
You'd think you're sitting in a vehicle. You're not expending that much energy. You're expending
a ton of energy. A lot of it is mental energy, but some of it is physical too. And that-
Yeah. I get all kinds of steps. Yeah. Right.
My watch thinks I'm on a really long walk. Yep. Every time the rig jostles, you've got some kind
of muscle firing off in your body to counteract that rig jostle. It's a lot more energy than you
would think of just driving a vehicle. Yeah. So, yeah. Those are my two fun examples of those.
The last one on our list is be okay, being uncomfortable.
Ah, that's a good one. Yeah. And this, I wrote that because you talked about being off-camber.
Yep. But I worded it that way because it's so much more. It is, for sure. Yeah.
And so, the gist of off-camber is nobody likes off-camber. Nobody likes it when their vehicle
is leaning a direction that it should not be leaning. Yeah. You know, if you're leaning all
the way towards your driver's side of your vehicle and your passenger side of the vehicle,
tires are higher than your driver's side vehicle tires. That is never comfortable for any, but
nobody likes that. No. But what's crazy is your vehicles can do it. Yes. Your vehicle can handle
it. Like, there is a break over. There is a time when your vehicle will roll. Fortunately,
I have never found that. I found it. Yeah. Tyler has found it. My fault. With Jimmy's help.
Not really, but sort of kind of. But nobody is used to that. And the more and more you wheel,
the more you'll ever so slightly get more comfortable with more extreme. But there is
a lot of putting yourself into something that is uncomfortable. There's not to be said for it,
for sure. Yeah. I mean, it's still going up whale bones. Oh yeah. Even whale bones. I've
gone up whale bones maybe a hundred times out of me. I don't know, but it's, I'm still not used to it.
The extreme angle you get just pushed back in your seat, looking straight up at the sky. You
can't see Jack shit else. No. And I know as soon as I crest this hill, I need to start turning
right. I still don't want to do it. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It's a, there's, there's something we said
about just understanding that our vehicles and trusting the vehicle that it can do and be put
in these crazy situations and be okay with it. You don't need to like it. Sure. But I think it's,
it's one of those cool feelings about off-roading that when you get put into a situation that
you're uncomfortable with and everything works out in the end. It's a really cool
feeling sensation. High dopamine hit maybe is what's going on. You get this shot of adrenaline,
right? And that's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a crazy thing to chase and, and be okay with.
First few times you're not going to be okay with it. You're going to freak out, think that the
world is ending. But that's, that's part of it, man. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I think be comfortable
with the uncomfortable, you know, have people around you that are a little bit more experienced.
I think this was going to be like one of my other like closing statements is go, go with
people that are experienced. Yeah. Don't put yourself into a situation that you're not in,
that somebody else that has, you know, done it before hasn't, you know, that can show you how
to do it, knows that it's safe, knows that you can do it, you know, help you walk, talk you
and walk you through the situation. You know, I think that's a really important thing. I think,
you know, listening to, I don't want to quote elders, you know, or just a more experienced
person is always a good thing to have around when you go out wheeling. And I think a lot of us are
to the point where like, we will go wheeling and we'll go out and be comfortable with the
uncomfortable, but there are situations that we might not want to drive through.
I won't go to a new trail in Moab without somebody there who's experienced on that trail.
Yeah. I refuse to now.
Yeah. And so Moab Rimke scarred me.
Yeah. I understand. It was that first sections that those are off camber and not comfortable
and not fun. And you can feel your vehicle, especially on lease rings, leaning one way or
another. It was not a good, not a good fun time for either of us. Plus our vehicles aren't made
for that. No, they're not. And yeah. So it's, I think a lot of it, like be ready. And there's
multiple situations in off-roading when you're going to be uncomfortable, right? From off camber
to just being stuck to having broken parts, you know, all those times you're going to be
uncomfortable. And it's about how you deal with it and how you come out the other side.
And I think a flip side to that is sort of to say, like, accept the small victories.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's a good one.
And so, you know, even if you've, you know, like, oh, I wheeled for an hour, like, hey,
that's fantastic. Good job. You did it. Or I made it to camp. Or, you know, I made it over these
rocks. I made the gatekeeper. Be happy for the small victories out there. That's the fun of
off-roading is, you know, making it through a rock garden or making it over, you know,
through the mud puddle or whatever it is, you know, depending on where you live, you know,
making it up this slippery hill or, you know, getting to this amazing camp spot, like be happy
with those small victories, be comfortable with the uncomfortable, you know, concern yourself
with your tire placement, where your tire is going, and then be safe in all the situations
where your seat belt and always control, be in control of your vehicle.
Yep. Yeah. There's a lot of good tips there, I think, for everybody.
I really like the experienced one. That was one that I didn't consider at all when we were
making this list. And that's a, that's a big one. I think that one of the biggest ones for
newbies is that, you know, don't go out alone and push your limits. That's one of the things I
love about clubs and getting involved with clubs. Clubs usually always have the elders of the club
that have been around for a long time. They know the normal trails the club goes on. They know
the ins and outs of most vehicles kind of thing, how mechanics work. So if you're unsure of that
stuff, go with somebody who's experienced clubs go a very long way to helping you be successful
out on the trails too. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I think that was a great list. Some things came
out of that that we didn't even write down. So that was, that was pretty cool. If you guys have
any ideas, tips, tricks for newbies out there that we didn't have on our list in regards to vehicles,
not so much camping or glamping or any of those other things. That's what we're interested in.
Maybe we'll do another episode in for camping or prepping or any of the other things, how to,
you know, basic build needs that every beginner should have or whatever it is. We could cover
this topic in many different ways, but if you have any suggestions or tips and tricks for a newbie
that is getting into off-roading, we're all ears. We would love to share those with people.
You can either hit us up on Instagram, snail trail four by four is the one I look over or
Tyler looks over four by four Toyota Tyler, or you can phone in and be a part of our voicemail
segment and leave your tips and tricks on the voicemail. And then we'll play that voicemail
for everybody here on our snail mail segments that come out on Friday. You can do that at
916-345-4744. That's it. That's the one.
That's all about all we got, I think. So I hope you guys enjoyed the episode.
Hopefully you guys had a great safe weekend. Happy Monday to everybody out there.
We'll see you again soon on Thursday, where we go over FNGs, birthdays. We'll announce a winner
of the APL 20 from IceCo and talk a little bit more about some Wolfbox stuff coming up. So
have a great day, guys. We'll see you Thursday. Anything to finish up and wrap up with Jimmy?
Is this last words or just last saying? This is finish up, wrap up, and I might do last words
after you say this. Well, my last words are just get out. You're never going to be able to experience
any of these things without going outside and going to do it. So I've taken learn what we've
talked about and just go out and apply it however you can and go out and have fun. And that's the
best way to do it and learn. You don't need an overbuilt vehicle. Overbuilt vehicles will
help you experience things, but I think they detract from learning a little bit. Go out and
enjoy, as Jimmy said, go out, enjoy what you have and start putting some of these skills,
learning about them, be aware of some of these things and figure out what works for you.
It's a glorious thing. It's cool. We both started with stock vehicles and built our vehicles up
and went one day, I could really use a locker. I could really use a front locker. I need lower
gears. I need bigger tires. I need skid plates, rock sliders, bumpers, blah,
and we built our vehicles up as we put ourselves into different situations, into different
uncomfortableness and we've learned what we needed for our vehicle instead of just going out and
buying everything and then going to wheel it. So just get out, go out, go wheel, drive around, camp,
have fun with what you have and learn about what you want and build it from there.
Sweet. So any final words? I'm scared. That's my friends. Keep crawling.
I got one for you.
Okay, sir. And either one of two things is going to happen on this one. You're either
not going to get it, like not understand it and or you're going to think it's just a bad joke.
Okay. So I'm guessing both things happen. All right. Why didn't the vampire attack Taylor Swift?
It's going to be something to do with one of her songs. Yep. Can you name any of her songs?
Because he, why didn't he attack her? Correct. Because he kissed a girl and did not like it.
That's Katy Perry. Taylor Swift songs.
I don't know what because she has bad blood. Okay. All right. That makes sense. It does.
Yep. You know that song? Yep. Oh, okay. I'm impressed. So there's a fantastic playlist
FYI on YouTube music. I'm listening. That is metal covers of Taylor Swift songs.
It's just fantastic. If anybody out there is interested in it, DM me. I will get it over
to you. There you go. Or remind me. I'll find the URL we put in the show notes or something.
I'll make up a note. Sounds fun.
About this episode
New off-roaders get a quick reality check and a practical mindset: expect every wheeling trip to potentially turn into camping, and plan accordingly. The hosts then shift into July housekeeping, including a Wolfbox giveaway for the G900TP three-camera system (4K rear plus two 1080 cameras). They share why the dash-mounted screen can be less distracting than a mirror and explain how continuous recording can overwrite footage unless you save/lock clips. Details cover a limited July group buy and how to sign up before August 1.
Whether you’ve never been off-road before or you’re just getting started, Jimmy and Tyler break down the 10 most important things they wish someone had told them early on — all vehicle-focused, all hard-earned from real experience on real trails. This one came from a simple question: what do we actually say when we’re out on the trail with a first-timer? Not camping tips, not gear tips — how do you drive differently when the ground stops being flat?
The list covers the two biggest safety non-negotiables (seatbelt and vehicle control before you start the engine), then works through hydration and sun exposure on multi-day trips, gears on descent (and why your automatic can go full runaway in seconds), knowing all four of your vehicle’s tools — lockers, crawl box, winch, cutting brakes, rock lights — and how to actually use them in the right scenario. From there: tires on rocks, tire placement, why your rear tires matter more than your front tires in an obstacle, differentials and ground clearance, and how to get comfortable with being deeply uncomfortable.
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July’s Giveaway is with a company that Jimmy and Tyler have very good experience with, especially after TrailHeroX. This month’s giveaway is with Wolfbox. They are giving away one G900TriPro to a lucky winner. This is the same three-camera rearview mirror setup that they received during TrailHeroX. If you want a chance to win this system from Wolfbox make sure you sign up for the giveaway tier on either Irate4x4 or the SnailTrail4x4 Discord.
This month’s giveaway is with Iceco Freezers. We are excited to work with and share their exciting new releases. One lucky winner has a chance to an ALP20Fridge. Big thanks to Icecofor sponsoring this month’s giveaway. If you want a chance to win, sign up for the Giveaway Tier on Irate4x4
Congrats to Johnny Freskie, you won the Rusoh Fire Extinguishers. We have one of their 2.5-pound extinguishers to give away to a lucky winner. This extinguisher has an 18-year shelf life and is the best fire extinguisher for any off-road vehicle. To learn more, check out Rusoh.com. If you want a chance to win, sign up for the Giveaway Tier on Irate4x4
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