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Lotus Elise
Concept
Formula 1
Formula 1 is a type of car racing that involves very fast cars competing in races around the world. It's known for its exciting races and high-tech vehicles.
Car
Renault Alpine
Car
Porsche 928
The Porsche 928 is a stylish sports car made by Porsche. It was built to be comfortable for long drives while still being fast and fun to drive.
Term
flat 12 engine
A flat 12 engine is a special type of engine with 12 cylinders arranged in a way that makes it very smooth and helps the car handle better. It's often found in high-performance cars like Ferraris.
Part
Bilstein
Bilstein makes parts for car suspensions, helping cars handle better and ride smoothly. They're popular among car enthusiasts for upgrades.
Term
OBD2
OBD2 is a system in cars that helps check if everything is working properly. It can tell you if there are any problems with the engine or other parts of the car.
Term
fuel injection
Fuel injection is a way cars get fuel into the engine. It helps the engine run better and use fuel more efficiently compared to older systems.
Car
Aston Martin DBS
The Aston Martin DBS is a fancy sports car that looks great and drives fast. Some watches are made to match its style.
Car
Nissan Z
The Nissan Z is a sporty car that people love to drive. It's part of a long line of Z cars that are known for being fun and fast.
Car
Acura Integra
The Acura Integra is a sporty compact car that has a strong following among car enthusiasts, known for its fun driving experience.
Car
Honda Civic
The Honda Civic Si is a performance version of the regular Honda Civic, designed for those who want a sportier drive.
Car
Ford Fiesta Sts
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Cadillac STS
Car
Toyota Supra
The Toyota Supra is a high-performance sports car known for its speed and handling. The newest version uses an engine developed by BMW, which helps it perform better.
Term
internal combustion engine
An internal combustion engine is what most cars use to run. It works by burning fuel like gasoline to create power, which makes the car move.
Car
Tesla Model Ss
The Tesla Model S is a popular electric car that has been around for over a decade. It's known for being fast and having a long battery life, making it a favorite among electric vehicle enthusiasts.
Car
Tesla Model
Car
Ford Crown Victoria
The Ford Crown Victoria is a large car that was popular for use as police vehicles and taxis. It was known for being tough and having a lot of room inside.
Car
Mercury Grand
The Mercury Grand Marquis is a large car that was made for many years and is known for being comfortable and spacious, similar to the Crown Victoria.
Car
Bmw I8
Car
BMW M5
The BMW M5 is a fast and powerful car that is designed for performance. It's a special version of the regular BMW 5 Series, made to be more exciting to drive.
Car
Toyota MR2
The Toyota MR2 is a small sports car that is designed to be fun to drive. It has its engine in the middle, which helps it handle well around corners.
Company
Red Bull
Red Bull is known for its energy drinks, but they also own a Formula 1 racing team and have started making their own car engines. They use technology from Honda to help build these engines.
Car
Mazda Speed
Car
Mazda Miata
Car
GR86
The GR86 is a small sports car made by Toyota that is fun to drive and has a rear-wheel-drive system, which means the back wheels power the car. It's popular among people who love sporty driving.
Car
Porsche 911S
Term
fully autonomous
Fully autonomous cars are vehicles that can drive themselves without anyone needing to control them. They use technology to see and understand their surroundings.
Term
autonomous car
An autonomous car is a vehicle that can drive itself without needing a person to control it. It uses special technology to see the road and make decisions about where to go.
Term
Hellcat
The Hellcat is a powerful version of the Dodge Challenger and Charger cars. It has a very strong engine that makes it go really fast, which is why many people love it.
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powertrain
The powertrain is the system in a car that makes it move. It includes the engine and the parts that help transfer power to the wheels.
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Gm Sierras
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Subaru Brat
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BMW M3
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Maserati MC20
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Jaguar E Type
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Toyota Prius
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Toyota Camry
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Fiat X19
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Porsche 944
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Nissan 300 ZX
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Scion Frs
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Jeep Wrangler
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Ford Bronco
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Porsche Cayman
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Volvo C30
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Ford Ranger
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Ford F150
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GMC Hummer EV
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Genesis G90
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Audi RS4
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Porsche 911 GT3
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Jaguar XJ220
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Nissan Gtr
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hi guys welcome to podcast 725 if you
don't know already we do every 25
podcasts because we do about a 100 a
year we do a live stream right here on
test drive videos so thank you for
joining us and all of those 25 podcasts
are question only now the weird one is
the 50 interval that's the no cars that
that's all the questions besides cars
that's Madness every single time but
this one will be all kinds of car
questions a few others we're also going
to cover some questions from many of you
that are our patrons that posted for the
15E anniversary video and not all those
questions got answered so some more will
be answered tonight though I will still
warn you there's no way we're covering
them all it's good it's going to be cool
it's a good thing we've covered the
bases yes if you have not seen that
15year anniversary video it is currently
live on our main YouTube channel but we
asked all of our friends from Automotive
media to weigh in to roast us or just
say something nice and yeah we still
can't believe 15 years have gone by and
then we asked on the Discord to our
patrons hey what were some questions you
would like to see covered covered a few
of them but we want to get to some of
those tonight in addition to your
questions from the live stream so thanks
for joining us really appreciate it
great before we jump in though I want
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so if it bleeds you can kill it by the
way that is that is that is wisdom from
Arnold by the way there's a new Predator
prequel called prey now on Hulu where
they decide have you heard about this no
yeah it's a prequel to Predator takes
place in the old
west sorry I know I know what more movie
series can we M we can't keep going so
we'll go backwards in time but it now
has a female star who made American so
they they they check many many boxes
were checked I have to say I do want to
watch it but anyway yeah uh so I'm
actually going to start with a couple
things that are not yet on the new uh
questions you guys are asking I am going
to say from walopus who helps us run our
Discord he says what is favorite car
you've driven in 15 years it's the
impossible
question and it is kind of impossible
because there are so many great things
however I did have this thought and I
know it may seem like a foregone
conclusion but I really have come to
this in the last week or so I really do
think my favorite car in 15 years is the
Lotus Elise is it I just there's been
plenty great of I could list but every
single time I'm in that car a car I own
every single time I'm in that car I'm
just like nothing's like this nothing is
like this yeah so and it has there's
many things about it that are
sacrificial many things about it that
are not amazing but I love it's just I
never get in that car and I'm over it
that's a good thing yeah it is your
culdesac car you can never get rid of
this that's what you understand this I
know I know yeah selling it is not an
option for you this point that's become
clear it seems yes yeah I said on the
video on the 15-year video it was that
Formula 1 car that we drove that is
owned by our friends at G's garage they
pulled three cars out of their
collection for us to create that video
it is aired two weeks ago on the Motor
Trend cable channel and coming soon to
youtube cannot wait to share that
episode with you because it was a track
day with us and them and it was a very
very special couple of days to shoot
these cars get in it and experience
stuff we've all thought okay I I know
what it drives like no don't it was so
incredible and so thanks to our Grio
sponsor those guys are amazing and they
become genuine friends we had a podcast
with him episode 699 I believe it was
and we were live in Richard's office
with Richard and Nick and it was just
great to talk about cars and we realized
that's just everybody's Outlet this is
what we do yeah we just talk hard just
all people have this need and that's why
you guys are here so thanks for joining
us really appreciate it great am I going
to invite my son and wife back on the
podcast Mike asks my son asks regularly
does he like Dad
what what's another event I can be on
the podcast for I'm like easy there big
fella it yeah and and my wife might come
back I mean we didn't necessarily want
to make it an every year thing every
Valentine's every Father's Day right but
they both are interested in being on
thank you guys for the interest and I
think they will be at some point we'll
see we'll see what the story is on that
from the 15year questions off of Discord
Monsoon asks if we think Renault Alpine
and French automakers other French
automakers will ever return to the US
domestic Market well stellantis has been
brought upon the world we've been been
blessed with the stellarians to bring
hopefully the PSA cars back fuge and
we'll see they've made noises about that
other French cars we see them when we go
to Europe on our pilgrimage trip we go
over there and see oh yeah Rena that's
right and it's it's cool I would love
for companies like Alpine even though
they're subsidiary of Renault I'd love
for them to bring their cars here but it
really comes down to sales and a
business model and everybody seems to be
buying SUVs as you know so they'd have
to really think there is a business case
to be able to do that to be able to make
money because as you know there's the
support system it's not just selling the
cars here it's the support to you know
get parts and service so whether it's
electric whether it's ice engine doesn't
matter and uh I I hope let's put it that
way because the world needs more variety
I'd like that yeah for sure Richard is
asking he said you just rewatched our
Inspirations piece now that was what
episode was that I've lost it was it was
season 10 episode one I think
but anyway it's part of season 10 it's
where you drove the tester Roa which was
kind of a poster car for you and I drove
the E type and then we connected that to
our current cars of the past my 300ZX
you're 928 and he's asking now that
we've driven them would we own them the
hero cars the inspiration cars and I
have to say that I yes I I would love to
own an e type I really really would
there's a couple major problems besides
the fact they're quite expensive and
that's not really in the reality I I I
aware of the fact that I am not a
wrencher I just that's not where I want
to put my time it's not where I have
skill and older cars take a lot more
care so I'm not going to be working on
it myself so who am I paying to work on
it that scares me about any type yeah
the secondary thing is I would instantly
have to modify it because I am too big
for the car in stock
configuration so now I have two things
that instantly make me go I really want
one but do I want to own one that's a
different level right there I I yes I
would love to I don't know I also have
come to the realization and our cars of
the past has kind of helped me with this
even though I'm thoroughly enjoying it
and the 300ZX has run really well I've
come to the realization that I'm not a
guy that wants to own a project okay and
I'm not a guy that really wants to own a
really old car okay now the 300ZX is you
can look at two ways on one level not
that old on another level it's old yeah
it's oldish so I you know I I always
have that kind of awareness and and
driving that car which I thoroughly
enjoy I keep thinking H this may be the
limits for me on old cars so you go you
jump another 30 years back to an E type
which I think is really sexy and
incredible to drive but do I want to own
that takes that's a struggle that's a
genuine struggle takes money and time
and effort and I think of tester rois
all those older Ferraris you think I
would never own those because you have
to take the engine
out hi 928 owner here yeah you are kind
of been there done that and I would love
to have a Ferrari but the engine out by
a really trained factory service tech
somebody who really knows what they're
doing for a flat 12 engine that scares
the Daylights out of me the bill scares
the Daylights out of me I'm experiencing
at a medium to low level as far as old
car ownership is conc it's not the
classics the Jags the old Ferraris that
kind of thing but you're still
experienced plenty of scary yeah I I
think honestly already done the engine
out right here honestly in about six
months or a year we need to be back on
Matt Ferris podcast hi Matt by the way
and we need to you I want I want to sit
there quietly which is hard for me and
have you and Matt compare War wounds on
your old cars that you bought got wounds
but he's paying the
bills is is just staggering right now so
that's really amazing yeah man uh let's
see questions I'm gonna jump over here
to the stream here Chris Newman our
friend Chris up in Montana asks if you
can mod a car into
preciousness yes I think you can I think
can drive it eventually and then do so
much to it and I think it has more to do
with Cosmetics than mechanics because
I'm still sorting out the 928 as of this
moment it's getting billstein and a new
air conditioner system because you can't
just recharge an old air conditioner you
either have to convert but then you have
to do all the new seals because 40-year
old seals on an air conditioner is
really you know questionable so that is
happening which I'm excited for for our
upcoming cars of the past three number
three trip number three and
uh past that if I start doing too much
cosmetically you know restoring the dash
all the stuff even though it's still got
a lot of miles on it and we're driving
these cars and that's what they're built
for I think you can I think the answer
is yes and then like oh it's got all the
miles we'll ever do I've done the road
trips and now I've got it sorted don't
do anything else I think that would be
the wrong move for me I need to keep
driving it keep keep it maintained and
that just means keep pouring the dollars
into to it did you see that Matt asked
exactly the follow-up I knew someone
would ask when I mentioned old cars and
loving my Lotus he said what happens
when the Lotus becomes old Matt I I hear
you and you may be right but I will but
I will say this though the Lotus is
modern enough that it's OBD2 and it has
fuel injection and that kind of stuff
things that the old stag lacks true but
it is is simpler even though it's newer
it is simpler than the
300ZX there's no power steering it's
pretty much just a Toyota on a chassis
it is about as simple as a car can get
so stuff that can go wrong in that car
is minimal and I have had a surprisingly
good ownership experience so uh
hopefully it will survive Ian dar's got
a watch question we have watch questions
for a long time go ahead and tune out
let your eyes play over watches he's got
a question for me about watches designed
for a specific car such as jlc's Aston
Martin DBS watch the citizen Nissan Z
watch which you would like even though
don't wear watches Chris Wards Morgan
watch are these gimmicky or a cool
tribute I think a bit of both and it
kind of depends I have really gravitated
towards movements rather than style even
though style is still very important
hopefully that goes along with movement
but you have to decide what you're going
through going for as far as what you're
spending your money on there's three
categories style only movement only or
both and when you go for both that's
when watches start to get really
expensive but good news there are are a
variety of not knockoffs but sort of
tribute watches to certain styles that
are you know the longlasting the the
omegas the Rolexes that kind of thing
and what I want a watch that isn't just
something off the shelf with a logo on
it and sells for 50 bucks that to me
cheapens the brand Ferrari does a lot of
this but if it's design for the car
designed for the brand or designed in
conjunction with it then a movement is
chosen a style is chosen and that makes
it ever more special the problem is that
can very easily get to only the owners
of these cars can afford
them D says at what age do you leave
Civic SI and step into the Integra
six-speed manual I we've said this
before we had we talked about the Fiesta
ST once for a lawyer that was like
should I drive I'm in my 30s almost 40
should I drive a fiest St and and one of
you wrote in with with one of the Lava
Orange Fiesta STS in your 70s and said I
did daily drive this age is not related
to which car you should own and I
actually think and we haven't driven the
integr yet but I actually think the
Civic SI is so good I question and I
will admit this bias going into the
integral view I question is the Step Up
worth it and that's going to be the big
question for me when we do Drive the
Integra because the Civic SI is really
good and I do not think I don't think
that it has an age cap cap on it at all
dart man you've got a question here
about recalls on brand new cars there's
so many major recalls going on the
question is are new models being
developed and brought to Market too
quickly in order to stay competitive too
many new and unproven Technologies into
cars loaded into cars all at once you're
right that is that is a thing the
development of a car has been sped up so
dramatically over the past decade I'll
say couple of decades but definitely
within the last 10 years not just from a
design and styling but from a a
visualization point of view and
Engineering can go so quick now I mean
18 months is used to be unheard of it
used to be three to four years to
develop a car and now technology is
changing so quickly and car
manufacturers want to get their products
out there so quickly you're right
they're running into this but we don't
want them to not try if there's car
manufacturers that aren't doing this and
taking advantage of new manufacturing
methods or putting new tech or
developing it and saying all right we've
tested this as much as possible it
hasn't let us down we're calling it good
for our standards for our company great
example is Toyota putting that BMW
engine that's in the Supra we've been
told that that BMW engine has been
through all of Toyota's engine
requirements that's why they put it in
those cars and sold them as branded
Toyota products I think BMW is just an
engine showroom other manufacturers come
in and walk along pick an engine I
actually think the BMW designers and
Engineers go you're not that one that
one let's put that one in something
you're not wrong but one all those
components pass what their checklists
say then okay they they should be able
to contantly put them in there
ultimately car manufacturers don't want
these recalls they're treading a fine
line here because they want to get new
tech they want to take advantage of like
I said new manufacturing methods get the
cars out there get what people are
wanting but cars are not phones cars are
not laptops and I think the general
public expects that now especially with
how quickly electric cars are moving and
you know electrification well yes that's
all moving so fast we expect the new
model within a year and a half that is
almost unheard of it's crazy fast and
here's the other thing that's happening
that that Tesla's getting away with and
I'm wondering if it's going to happen
with electric cars in general to some
point and that is Tesla has gotten away
with oh it but it's okay that it broke
because it's beta yeah and when we have
a technology that is not an old
technology like an internal combustion
engine car we just kind of accept to
some degree we accept little bugs
because oh it's Cutting Edge and new and
I'm wondering if electric cars are going
to be because they can do software
updates and that kind of thing are we
going to be more forgiving across the
board on electrics or is that just a
Tesla thing but we expect traditional
cars to just run and to not have
failures but yet we're doing a blind eye
thing to electric cars or even even your
phone does some weird thing you're like
oh must be a software glitch and and you
kind of you don't like it but you're
like oh it just happens so if cars
become like phones your phone enclosure
doesn't change it operates how it
operates everything is internally done
Tesla Model S's are well over 10 years
old as far as the door stampings and the
roof stamping and the body panels
haven't changed they've done the refresh
for tail lights and and front rear Clips
those are low investment in terms of car
manufacturing those are low investment
so that's an easy thing to update but
what has changed over the years is all
the motors the batteries the tech the
wiring harnesses were probably pretty
similar you can use still everything
upgrade the interior a little bit but
we've still have the same shape and
pretty much the same look for over a
decade that hasn't changed true yeah so
if that's if if we want the fast to
Market here's the latest tech we have to
be okay with the exterior enclosure not
being o not changing leaving it still
because it works and don't don't break
it I see that yeah so I've got a story
for you and that is about the Crown
Victoria and Mercury Grand Marquee
remember these cars tax C cars yes they
around forever endless they were around
so long I had a friend from Ford worked
for Autodesk and and helped out the Ford
engineering Studio he said the tooling
on those cars had been around so long
there was slop in the tooling because
the tooling was worn out and new cars
went together with kind of loose body
panels because they had used it and made
so many of those cars there were bits
and pieces on new ones that didn't quite
align properly because the tooling was
so old I went are you kidding me but it
wasn't worth Ford's time and money to
build new tooling because they were
going to phase those cars out anyway so
it didn't behoove them to make new
tooling to keep an old model going they
just kept making them unbelievable M
Simmons AZ is trying to catch me out he
says Todd which car looks best in white
and I have one okay the original BMW I8
was first shown in white with some like
two-color blue red accents it was the
other two colors it was the colors from
their M uh line you know the the the two
shades of blue and the red but it was a
white car with black uh all the swoops
were all black so it's like Stormtrooper
uh spec with the blue blue and red
accents on it and I've never seen that
car look better than it did in that
white spec and every time I see one of
that I'm just like that just looks right
like that as much as I hate white
granted it's got a lot of negative space
on it which balances it out but that's
by far my favorite okay I'll give that
to you our friend H Bullock asks about
about a new vehicle he's taking delivery
of a new vehicle end of September what
is the first first wash protocol or
procedure we would advise definitely ask
your dealership to not wash it because
part of the prep is to just get it clean
and they don't really care about getting
it clean to good standards let's say
they just want to get it clean and out
the door and it's part of the checklist
as far as delivery is concerned my first
recommendation if you if you allow them
to pull the plastic off and do that
please tell them to not wash it take it
home wash it with G's products you can
do the foam Cannon to start with or you
can just give it a nice wash with a car
wash soap so that way you're not
introducing scratch's first
thing yeah do it yourself first thing
for first wash and then ease into a
washing schedule Ray Lee is uh saying
he's glad he met us at radwood glad to
meet you too man and I it was cool that
your your M5 got to be in that East
Coast piece I'm glad we had at least a
quick shot of it but he's asking me is
my Elise just a faster version of his
MR2 spider or are they different because
he has the Elise engine in his MR2 this
is where this is going they are
different because the the Elise has a
significantly lower seating position and
very it's very different visually it
feels more exotic than the MR2 the MR2
has a very mundane seating position by
by comparison and now granted my
shifter's been a little bit changed I've
got different cabling and different
engine mounts which helps the shift feel
in that Elise but the shifter is
actually a lot better in the Elise as
well so it it does have a more exotic
feel even I'm not denying the the cheap
version of getting an elisee as you do
the MR2 with the engine swap and I see
how you get there and it is still really
and I love driving it but the Elise has
a specialness and a and a because of the
seating position it has an exotic feel
that the MR2 can't quite get there
question on here I'm looking forward
it's scrolling back up about Porsche and
Red Bull joining forces into Formula 1
we've touched on this a little bit
before but you realize that Red Bull has
bought the remnants of the Honda engine
program and started a different company
using that technology called Red Bull
engines so they already build their own
engines they are a manufacturer if you
can believe it it's all the leftovers of
Honda but that's still great stuff and
so now clearly they're doing well but
now they have so much money for Porsche
to join Porsche can offer a lot of
racing technology and a lot of
experience I'm I'm excited for Porsche
to be back the top level of racing not
that Lama isn't I would love them to
continue in Lama they they seem to dip a
toe into the pool and they've got the
winning car and they know it and they
we'll just grab a few championships and
then kind of hang out we're here for
trophies and we're leaving okay yeah
that's really three years in a row to
grab all the trophies again and then you
guys can screw around and then we'll be
back in our guys just built a new
Porsche designed trophy case and it's
empty so we got to fill that and then
we'll leave yeah there's a lot of
questions from the 15 year anniversary
thank you guys for that I still can't
believe 15 years we are here in the
first week second week of August and
starting 16th year it was crazy no it
was July
31st 2007 we posted a Mazda speed Miata
review and we were fully split on it so
it has been that long which is crazy so
there are a lot of questions related to
that I want to come through a few more
zz1 is saying what do we think and I'm
curious your thoughts on this Paul what
do we think are the best personal traits
to develop in order to have a successful
media show or car media show whatever
what do we think are the key elements
traits or behaviors that turn a couple
of guys making videos on the side into a
full-time
gig here is the thing I learned in
Hollywood I came into Hollywood I think
a lot of people do came into Hollywood
thinking that if somebody else had an
opportunity they took my slot which
isn't true I also came into Hollywood
thinking that there was a line there's
not a line well there people in line but
people cut yes so so your experience and
your time frame will be completely
different than anybody else's success in
anything but especially in anything that
is an entertainment medium but the other
thing that it taught me that I think is
true of us and that is it's a war of
attrition it's not you're the best
you're the brightest you're the latest
one to show up it's you stayed in it and
you
fought and you and I here we are 725
podcasts if you pulled either one of us
aside and said you guys going to do 700
podcasts I think we wouldn't have done
one okay we've like no no no no we're
going to do what but and the reason we
have so many is because we just
dedicated ourselves to okay started off
once a week okay twice a week we just we
find the time it's why you guys have
heard podcasts that we've done in the
middle of road trips or in the middle of
of shooting because we've just dedicated
ourselves to okay twice a week we're
doing a podcast and then you look back
over the years and you go oh my gosh we
did that much that's true of the the
videos and the TV stuff and that kind of
thing and so I'm always playing the long
game and I think that's helped and then
the because I just like it's not about
this one piece it's about all of the
body of work yeah so and that's
something else I learned in scripts
because you'd write a script and you'd
kill yourself and I think this is really
good and the script would fall on its
face the only thing you can do is well
not whine about the fact that one failed
you got to write another one well aren't
there scripts out there that are
introduced and then they're revised and
then they try to reshop them and years
later and sometimes didn't really fit
the common perception or what companies
were looking for what Studios were
looking for and then you they pull them
out of turn resurrect that has happened
for sure the other thing I think from a
personal perspective it's this weird
line because you can swing either side
of this line it's this weird line of
listening to the audience but also not
letting the audience Define who you are
which is a weird thing because there's a
symbiotic thing going on I was just
reading an article about how some
influencers just become what Their
audience wants to be I think you have to
know who you are and stick to that but
also be willing to adapt in order to
entertain there's there's both elements
you can't be like whatever you want me
to be but at the same time if if every
sorry keep coming back to scripts if 10
people read a script and seven of them
think this thing is wrong you got to go
fix that thing but what you don't do is
you don't listen to what everybody else
thinks the fix
is you you identified the audience
identified for you the problem now it's
on you as the creative person to find
the fix we've also touched on this
before and that is a comment that we get
from people who meet us in person and
say you guys are exactly like you are in
person as I see you on camera which is
so surprising to both Todd and I because
I have never wanted to be that person
that is there's plenty of YouTubers who
are hey hey sorry sorry couldn't resist
that do that yeah yeah yeah and then
aren't the same person when you meet
them in you know in person they're just
kind of lowkey and yeah whatever cool
man and then on camera they're this
different personality wild and crazy
whatever you know what I mean because
from the very beginning this was Todd's
face it was my face it was our names it
was a body of work and we looked at it
as Evergreen content which has always
stuck with me because we see videos with
comments now I'm like oh yeah we drove
that car totally forgot what did I say
about that car yeah for do I still agree
with myself
now comments on that so hopefully that
is long lasting because cars last a long
time you keep them running they're still
being shopped by people now and still
finding those reviews and we want those
reviews and what our opinions were about
them to be valid now as they were then
and give it a longterm you know and
we're still the same people but but it's
always surprising to me like you guys
just are pretty much the same as I've
seen you like I don't don't know else
how to be yeah I don't know another way
to be I agree with that Skyler's uh
doing a Super Chat thank you for that
man he's saying what's the worst hotel
we've stayed in during a road trip he
said he actually walked out of a booking
once losing his money um worst hotel
that's actually a good question I don't
know maybe it's just because we're done
shooting and I'm just tired I don't know
that there's everyone we've left we're
so tired we just it's like whatever does
the key work there there actually there
was one when I first moved to Utah
wasn't even on a shoot when I first
moved to Utah we were driving and
everything about the day you know with
the rental truck and everything
everything went longer than it should
have everything took longer than it was
supposed to it was all disastrous and I
had our old dog Sierra with us and we
were we were moving and we were trying
to find a hotel where it was okay that
we had her and we just needed to crash
it was like midnight and we had trucks
and the hotel was nasty and we were all
like I don't care I do remember that
hotel like oh this is well okay we're
just G to sleep for a few hours and be
up and moving again you had a good time
with your family at Circus Circus when
you went through and that was not that
we didn't stay there was for the we we
didn't stay there that was a whole
separate thing cheap Vegas hotels is
place to go let's see R Diamond asks if
some cars are more approachable than
others in the four months he's owned the
Stinger he's had a dozen people approach
him to talk about the car same with a
gr86 he rented but no comments on the
Genesis
I think so because there is a public
perception about certain
cars hopefully those are broken
stereotypes are broken once you talk to
the owner and ideally Porsches but you
know about the thing about Porsches
however with these two cars nobody
really has an idea of what to think
about them yet and doesn't know who are
the people that own them they look cool
they look interesting and fun who's the
driver I just want to kind of know who
bought this thing what do they get out
of this car that I think is interesting
for a myriad of reasons so I I think and
those two are kind of new they don't
have a legacy like Porsche 911s like
Corvettes like BMWs they don't have this
long-term thing where I know exactly I
see a car and I know exactly who that is
oh oh that's that's a different driver
that's AIA oh that wait what is that
what is that bright blue car that's a
that's a gr what's a gr yeah we
definitely get that for sure GRE chuma
is asking he's no he's not asking he's
stating dun dun dun Juma is saying fully
autonomous consumer cars will not happen
in our lifetime what do we say I I think
they will but I think they're going to
be Geo fenced in cities in downtown
you're not gonna have a fully autonomous
car that you could go anywhere in I
agree to that they're going to build
them that they're really good in certain
areas which is which is what makes sense
too I mean sorry side note what really
makes sense is just public trans that's
if we really want to solve we want to
solve like City it's public tra we as
car people don't want to do and many
people that aren't car people don't want
to do but if we're going to be talking
about individual pods taking you places
it makes sense that in a cityscape
they're all interconnected and talking
to each other and watch Minority Report
for other reasons but for that as well I
think cities yes but even I would even
say this I could see a world where
you're autonomous car in the city can't
be autonomous out of it your steering
wheel pops out because you're out of the
G you want to keep driving this vehicle
you have to drive it till some YouTuber
puts a Hellcat in that bad boy yeah well
then we're going to drag race it against
the world of course we are without a
steering wheel what's YouTube like in
another 15 years Matt Farah theorized it
might not even exist but what's it like
another 15 years that'll be fascinating
that that is interesting I have
experienced it it's amazing technology
but I think you're right I I don't think
anywhere from point to point address to
address level five autonomy will happen
any place on the planet I think you're
absolutely right remember a few years
ago one of the many things that he
promised Elon Musk was going to do a
fully autonomous drive like this was
like
2019 I I can't he's gonna go LA to New
York I I don't even think that's
possible I don't even think that's
likely but I do think in major cities I
think it actually makes some
sense let's see moose just watched our
s580 review it seems like Mercedes took
a step back in design by making the
tablet on the dash design compared to
the last generation with the integrated
design why the step back
perception people have now Associated
the future with Teslas even though
that's not true anymore and there's car
companies that are doing better screens
than just a tablet stuck on the dash
that seems so old now it's 10 years old
that idea but then Mercedes has taken it
a step further moose by integrating
those screens into a glass panel in the
eqs it's fantastic it's a different take
on things it's too much information yes
it's cool
completely but they have done it their
way and that does seem very
Mercedes I like it a lot the Audi rron
GT proving you don't need a gigantic
screen we noted on that car the interior
just felt pretty normal like a modern
car but if you didn't know what the
powertrain was You' just think it's a
normal car I think manufacturers have
acknowledged it they've tried their own
Mercedes has done it a little bit but I
think people want instrument panels I
think they want some
buttons just going to you know all the
features down in the screen that changes
maybe weekly or monthly because they
updated the firmware over the air change
it on you you can't find the same
thing's the I don't think that's flying
with people to be honest I hear you I'm
your chaos one says any tips for a first
time trip to the nurr there are many but
I'll give you the the headlines first
off talk to our friends at rsr rent a
car from them do not rent some car
you've dreamed about driving that is
above your current car and rent this
High thing and spend your money there
rent a car at your current level or
below your current level and get an
instructor take the instructor with you
you were much better off doing more laps
in a lesser car with an instructor than
renting some big boy and seeing how it
goes because I'll tell you how it Go
poorly let's
see uh tdfn 426 who would who would you
have make a once a year car feature film
regular weekly video or 15sec short the
straight pipes are Savage geese friends
or throttle house well we need to kind
of incorporate all of them they did us a
really huge favor by sending us their
roast in our video I think we need to
change it up I think they all of them
would be great at everything but the
Savage geese boys would like to do the
longer thing they're they're good at the
long for long format stuff they're very
good at that for sure uh Monty I don't
want to go too long into this because it
still hurts but uh you're asking if
Sierra's still around our dog Sierra
almost made it to 16 it's amazing she
was awesome and clear ey the day that we
had to let her go and it was very hard
but it was for the best it's rough it
was hard though rough let's see I'm
going to jump back to some of our
15-year questions future Adventures or
trips that we would like to do from
Turtles
Slayer we're thinking about a few some
we can't reveal because they haven't
come to fruition yet and it depends on
time and money in some cars yeah but
we've we've talked about various
generations of supercars old old and new
kinds of supercars we've talked about
that as future films uh what else
there's still a lot of Adventures that
we think we can do with different cars
if these two cars of the past cars
change over to something new like an
Isuzu vcross and a Subaru Brat and we do
something from north to south that could
be cool yeah there there's other ideas
but I I think there's still some World
Travel that we want to do with h with
various cars
too interesting someone good questions
I'm going to jump right here real quick
Peter says why did I like driving why
saying he why did he like driving the
335 is more than the M3 I think it's two
reasons one the 335 is you probably
didn't expect as much and the 335 is has
a turbo whereas the M3 which has that
glorious V8 you got to wind it out to
make it glorious if you if you drive it
in the mid-range it's just like well
this is this car is okay the 335 is has
power a lot of the time and is a real
surprise whereas the M3 you expect to be
the big boy I think that's the reason
that you felt the other way pen and
finina idealist asks about the factors
that combin to make both of us realize
that we could or had to do everyday
driver as our full-time jobs Todd what
was the discussion like with your wife I
do want to hear
this I knew it was the Tipping Point
because for both of us every time the
show would come up we couldn't stop
talking about it and people we were
talking to noticed it we'd be you were
working you know doing some commercial
editing for sure I was in a tech company
with AO desk and every time the show
would come up people would sort of take
a step back like whoa I haven't heard
that much enthusiasm from you totally
it's not about the company you're
currently working for it's about this
side gig blabbing about and you have
some YouTube channel and now you're
starting a podcast and you drive cars
and that's making you money and you can
earn a living doing this so when people
too many people started doing that and
my tech company moved on from me I
decided what if I get another job if I'm
buried in a tech job you know you're
doing film editing or yeah yeah we're
buried in that and we couldn't devote
the actual time that we talked about to
devote to the show yeah because we'd
always say well if only we had this
amount of time to go take a week off and
it wasn't vacation time we just reported
to nobody and we could go film and not
be bothered and do our thing I wonder
what that would be like and here we're
doing it with the cars the past road
trips it's it's crazy that we get to do
it for a living I kind of can't believe
it to answer your question how was the
conversation with my wife she actually
mentioned earlier when somebody said
she'd be back on the podcast she was
like yeah I'm game so she's watching so
I have to be careful no I'm kidding they
actually I have had two major
transitions in my work life in the time
we've been married and she has been
incredibly supportive of both because
mainly because she has to live with me
and in both cases she could see the
stress level and she could understand
that even though the jump was hard the
person she was married to and living
with would be better served by that jump
and therefore her life would be better
as well I mean when when we actually
jumped I actually left Cosmic the place
that I was editing for which I didn't
have any problems with it was a good job
yeah but it was because we saw the TV
show coming and we we we saw the
sponsorship coming and so we had the
ability to take that step now that was a
bigger step than my prior jump out of
new line where we didn't have a son and
we didn't have a mortgage and that kind
of stuff but she could see how much I
was working around the clock between
going to a fulltime job and then we were
shooting on the weekends and I was
editing at night and so she could
understand how a lot of the time would
come
back and even though it was genuinely
very scary for us but she was like yeah
it makes sense yeah but for what we do
with a show there's never something not
to do oh yeah constant it's ongoing
whether to get a video published late at
night getting podcasts edited getting
test drive videos done Todd staying late
and you know holidays being affected
your holidays through Christmas you know
because of the TV seasons all there
there's always stuff to do but I think
we've embraced it because this is fun
this is what we get to do and our
audience has come alongside us and said
guys keep making this stuff keep doing
what you're doing and that's very
encouraging regardless of the amount of
YouTube views we get or don't get yeah
it doesn't matter but there's a deep
passion for it that people people noted
and it keeps going at this point that's
very true and the other thing that that
actually this is going to sound weird
because we've been doing this for so
long but I started noting this and
bringing it up during our shoots in the
last six months maybe Year and that is I
started noting the fact that I have
never had a job where I've laughed so
much that's good you and I laugh when we
do the podcast we laugh on every single
shoot we just laugh doing there's plenty
of high stress late night moments in
editorial but when we're doing
production for the show be it the
podcast or otherwise there invariably
there's just some ridiculous moment
where we can't get anything done we're
just laughing well a lot of times I'm
trying to think about any other job I
had would that ever happen ever that's
true when chance is editing he's pulling
selects and editing interview and he'll
take a screenshot be like you guys are
idiots are idiots or you're having too
much fun or what noise was that that
just came out of your mouth look at this
clip and we're all laughing via text and
it's stuff that you know it's behind the
scenes kind of things but you like yeah
I guess that is me I guess I did kind of
say that well and you and I do that
thing that you do when you cram for a
test okay we we take in so much
information before we actually go on
camera that there is to some degree
there's there's like a flushing of that
when we're done on camera and so then we
get into edit and we've forgotten some
of the things we said we we'll come
across something and be like oh my gosh
I said that that's clearly me okay
that's going in or that's really never
going in both happen for sure yeah off
the 15year questions gumper asks about
the experience that we've gained in the
last 15 years which cars have we
significantly changed our opinions about
other than Maserati I was gonna say yeah
there's an obvious one there I'm a fair
weather fan I'm I'm a full-on fan you're
a full-on fan now except for the lante I
what's the new one called I forget the
new one brand new mini SUV that's
fighter I don't know I it's it's a blind
spot in my life yeah I think that's
interesting I'd like to drive it the
mc20 is something I feel like I
need oh you need okay good to know
excellent I'm not sure how we afford
that but excellent good however Mercedes
is a car company that I ignored and
early on we got a lot of comments why
don't you guys review more
mercedes-benz's because 10 years ago it
was part of the the decade just prior
when you know the a when I didn't think
very much of Mercedes they were fine but
they just were a symbol they were a
badge for people with money and you go
buy Mercedes and it's just fine and then
they started to get really interesting
and one of the few that we drove that
had that new uck system it was well laid
out very thoughtful I thought the build
quality was excellent they drove well I
thought I just had this perception of
Mercedes that was always like kind of
middle and boring they're well built and
they're you're buying it for the TriStar
badge and I think what Mercedes is doing
I think they have a huge future I mean
they're they're a big car company they
have a lot of resources but I love the
direction Mercedes is going and yet they
still don't build manual transmissions
except for old 20 6 SLK 280s that are
really great but you know and the 350s
but Mercedes they're just cool I'm
intrigued by Mercedes the the design is
timeless versus BMW BMW is designing
with line connected by surface it's
almost like designing with Beast blindes
or surfacing nerding out on you're
nerding out well done surfacing
technology surfacing a class surfacing
but Mercedes is designing with
highlights and surface and form and
they're beautiful the GTRs gts's are
going to be beautiful they're gorgeous
they're gonna be timeless 50 years from
now they're gonna look great wow
surfaces that are modern that are I
think just as beautiful not quite but
almost as that Jaguar e type Ferrar the
old 50s Ferraris they're gorgeous
surfaces and they're continuing to do
that and bring interesting fases to
denote here's electric here's gas
powered here's you know what they're
doing I'm really intrigued by Mercedes I
I'll give you two actually two pairs one
is when we first started the show
Cadillac was on a roll and Lincoln was
in the dumps okay Lincoln had nothing
our joke about Lincoln was Lincoln
nothing to see here I mean that was the
tagline the joke was because we were in
at an auto show I think it was the LA
Auto Show yes and on the media preview
day everybody had displayed all their
cars except for Lincoln and we walked by
the The Pavilion and they had rented a
huge floor space and we're just going
where are all the Lincoln like this is
Media day you should have some product
out there for people to look at there's
nothing and and so Cadillac and Lincoln
have kind of swapped personalities and
Cadillac is then doing a whole another
research in sense but they kind of
swapped personalities and Lincoln if you
want to buy an SUV has actually found
their own identity in over the course of
this show it's not my taste but they
found their own identity meanwhile when
we started this show Ford was the
Enthusiast company they had an
Enthusiast car at every possible price
point come to Ford they don't do it
anymore but you know who does and at the
time was the exact opposite Toyota now
does yeah Toyota was like go buy a Prius
or a Camry thank you very much and Ford
had all the Enthusiast cars now Ford
doesn't even sell any Enthusiast cars
and Toyota's like what's your price
point sir can I find you an Enthusiast
car that's true who knew although
Cadillac has split again if you haven't
looked up the Escalade V I dare you to
go to the website and look at the series
they start at
$150,000 start and they get 10 miles to
the gallon Mercedes GLS money and then
there's the Lyric over here like this is
the direction we're going would you like
a Blackwing anything with a 10 miles to
the gallon kind of engine here you go
here's two offerings Angel Rivera says a
Super Chat thank you Manny says favorite
high-speed commuter with a stick shift
that's
hard like a like because I can I think
highspeed commuter I think like big
sedan okay so now I wonder if it's like
Aston Martin Vantage with a stick right
yeah maybe maybe cuz because what I want
what I want to think is like a big sedan
but those typically come in stick shift
so I'm going to go with the Vantage that
one I'm a little bit about what about a
highway EV commuter what's favorites
there I have not yet driven the uh Lucid
but Grant granted you're putting a price
on it of up to 55k so that's not going
to be Lucid um okay uh Highway commuter
you know what the bolt is much better
than people think it is I'm gonna come
come back to the bolt the bolt is
excellent the lyric actually was 65
Grand loaded and felt like it should
have been 80 or 90 that shocked us which
actually makes me think that the Blazer
of all things might be interesting in EV
form even though I don't I wish that
every EV on the planet wasn't an SUV but
that that has promise as well but the
the bolt you can get a deal on and is an
excellent car for
commuting if you haven't seen Dan Neil's
review of the new bolt EV he is the only
Pulitzer prizewinning Automotive
journalist that I know of he writes for
Wall Street Journal he just reviewed it
and was freaking hilarious as he always
is but he was sort of referencing the
old bolt like GM's kind of freaking out
about the two years of battery fires and
we did it differently and please buy our
new bolt it was really well written
but I always laugh when he gets a hold
of cars doesn't matter I mean he he'll
drive McLaren and then he'll drive the
bolt EV but yeah he had good things to
say so we need to drive that
soon oh man uh has there been a moment
Austin has there been a moment
throughout the years where working in
the car industry made you lose your
interest in cars how' you deal with that
and adjust your your program to combat
that Austin this happened to me with
movies I got so burned out on films that
when I stepped out of new line in
0708 I cut back my movie consumption to
like a tenth of what it had been and it
took me a while to kind of work my way
back to loving film again and the
interesting thing is here we're in a
plague of everything is a is a silver
SUV so what the challenge has been for
you and I on test drives is what makes
this one unique different surprising
good or bad so because in its shape it's
just a silver SUV but it has made the
really good cars the really good sports
cars especially even more
celebratory yeah the struggle that I
have had actually has been the the
YouTube ecosystem has probably burned me
out on cars more than anything but the
cars themselves I understand what the
SUVs are for and we drive them kind of
with that headp space But then things
like the 86 show up or the super show up
or the new Z show up and you just go
really now you're dropping this now and
that's I mean you got to have a party
cuz I can't believe it exists Elliot
Manning thank you it is the Maserati
gal that sounds worth it Gale that
sounds worth it yeah yeah I'm not sure
about the name but I have to see
something in writing I'm a visual guy so
I can't just hear it thank you that's
that's excellent uh I'm intrigued by it
I want to drive it I want to drive more
Maseratis I hope they kind of Branch off
and continue to do their own thing I
hope they're hitting the reset
button over and over and over no anyway
Shadow blue on the 15-year questions
from our patrons by the way how how this
worked is the people that are our
patrons on patreon are all on our
Discord chat which is amazing it's this
whole ecosystem un itself that is that
is wonderful people have found friends
on there they've done meetups that have
nothing to do with us it's really really
cool on our Discord we went to those
folks when we were shooting our 15-year
video I thought you and I shouldn't just
stand there and do a 15-year anniversary
video where we pontificate about what
struck us we did an intro and an outro
and everything in the middle is we're
actually answering questions posted by
our patrons which was really cool we had
so many questions we didn't get to all
of them Shadow blue is saying is there
one thing you would have done
differently and given the chance would
you go back and change it yes and I
mentioned this and it didn't make the
cut for the YouTube video but there was
one thing and that was when we first you
can go back and watch when we announced
our TV the idea was we were going to do
12 episodes a year for TV which we're
still doing and then we were going to
after they played on TV we were going to
use them as YouTube cont shortly
thereafter okay was the intention but
when we first got the show on television
we had a couple of people in TV sales
advise us to not do that because they
were going to sell the show
internationally so we held on to our
first couple of seasons and didn't put
them on YouTube because we were
supposedly going to get them sold
internationally which never happened so
then we were like 18 months two years
behind on dropping these TV episodes
onto YouTube I wish we had stayed with
our initial plan I think it would have
helped our you YouTube Cadence we've
been on a the same trajectory for 15
years no matter what we've done good or
bad so probably wouldn't have changed
anything massive but I would have liked
to have stayed in that Cadence because
when we started catching up people were
like this is old content we're like I
know it's just this is our chance to get
it out now we're actually in a fairly
good Cadence so I'm I'm glad with where
we are and just think YouTube won't
exist in 15 years so we'll be doing this
on newform what's funny is that every
couple of years some uh Venture Capital
group gets together and goes we've made
the new YouTube no you haven't we're
going to break you no no you're not same
thing with Tesla this is the new Tesla
we're gonna beat Tesla at the own game
and no you're not that's not going to
happen Hal says Paul I've heard Tom talk
about everyone talk to everyone at gas
stations about his Z and Lotus he
experiences the same thing with with his
Fiat x19 such a tiny car yeah and very
rare his question is do I get people
talking to me about the 928 I would like
it more if they did I suppose but I've I
think I've seen people glancing at it
but I'm not there to you know stand by
the car and wait like want to know
anything about my car I'm here to answer
questions
anybody now taking 928 questions I think
I I don't know maybe it's the Porsche
perception like ah you know it's a
Porsche whatever but who knows who knows
you never see those on the road that is
one of the crazy things about the 928 is
you just never see them on the road and
I'm just glad when we do these road
trips that you've got yours out there
driving I agree except my mechanic who
has a bunch of them out front and in the
shop which
such a relief I can't even tell you that
means he knows how to work on them and
he's selling a few and he's got stuff on
the list other customer cars so that is
good news somebody asked me I actually
thought I noted it but apparently I
didn't somebody asked me on the 15-year
thing uh favorite Monty Python scene
because we had a Monty Python referen on
our East Coast thing and it's actually
this is going to sound crazy it's
actually out of Holy Grail and it's the
the dark knight
scene you shall not pass okay and and
what's crazy is we actually I was in a
film class at in in University was in a
film class and we were asked to bring in
favorite scenes and break them down and
a guy brought that scene in really and I
was like the black knight scene from
Mone you've got to be kidding why but
what was interesting is if you start
watching it from a filmmaking
perspective it's really well done it's
very well shot those guys of course stay
in character but it's very well shot
there's a lot of information in that
scene in spite of the fact that it is
completely over the top absurd it's very
wellmade and is ridiculously funny I
feel like it's it's the merge of what
those guys did so well so
funny are you the singing Bush I think
this is the singing Bush let's assume
this is the singing Bush Three Amigos
ladies and gentlemen there it is a lot
especially with Three Amigos let's see
what else uh Lil danino Dano saw 944
around his neighborhood yeah 944s they
built a lot of those things just yeah
they did not enough
928s uh let's see William shaas Paul
Todd you are real Class Act of world
needs more of your authenticity and
positivity William thank you we really
appreciate that like I said this is
you're getting what you're seeing and we
love sharing you know early on in the
show we realized that we just wanted our
best friend and many times I was just
talking to you in the carely with the
camera right there you're just talking
to me and it was like the phone calls we
always had realizing we should turn this
into a show we're spending an hour just
blabbing about cars to do a podcast we
should just do this and so it's just one
person behind that camera it's not
thousands millions of people it's just
one person and people have said that
matters and that's what we want Barbara
yes it is just a flesh wound I totally
agree with you uh the spam reference is
also very good thank you guys for the
great questions this is so much fun
let's see what else uh will Dixon says
what has been the biggest good surprise
about the 86 and the biggest not good
surprise let's see the biggest good
surprise has been good support from
Toyota the dealership Mark Miller Toyota
insult City and they were able to very
easily change the engine speaker so it
was just a check box when they plugged
it in they showed that to us uh very
easy and the car has just been a champ
so far it's got almost 10,000 miles and
it was with us as the camera car out to
radwood Philly for our cars the pass
number two trip did great uh yeah we've
had good tires on it and people seem to
really like seeing it uh also many
people have asked how was that car on
the road trip and we didn't really cover
it for the film
FM it a did it driven bys of the drove
it out it uh so thank you Derek and
Andrew both those guys really helped us
out on that one and they really enjoyed
getting seat time in that and it was it
just buzzed along was great yeah I will
say people have asked what it was like I
was in it a little bit because I kept
swapping out when it was camera car I
kept swapping out to be in a little bit
and I will say this it was interesting
because here I was in the 300 ZX with
brand new shocks which had the the sport
and touring setting
in these these great seats and I
realized that the 300ZX was a better
long-term road trip car like sawing
miles car more of a better GT car for
sure than the 86 the 86 has got a more
aggressive suspension all the time than
that 300ZX now look I drive a lootus
Elise happily so it didn't bother me but
I was very aware of how much sharper and
and Buzzy the 86 was on its suspension
than the 300ZX was for the next 500
miles so there was that and the 86 look
it's also a small car that is a sports
car so it is also louder than if if you
have a Camry or an accord or or your
typical commuter it's a louder car with
a stiffer suspension so if that concerns
you on a road trip the 86 isn't great
but then to your point it got the best
gas mileage of the trip it was the one
we never thought twice about it absorbed
we threw gear at that car it had so much
space for gear and stuff and I mean the
trunk is good sized so in all of those
regards it was just like what do you
what is the thing you like to do in this
car because it's ready when we have Road
tripped I have liked this generation
much better than the first gen for being
on a highway for being just straight
lines no curves because I've never
thought the first gen was great at the
commuter thing it's begging for a corner
but this one has 5 millimeter longer
wheelbase a lot more sound deadening and
it is better at doing the commute thing
even though the engine is right on the
Tipping Point for me when you're in
sixth and you're buzzing long it depends
on your speed of course but it can be
just maybe a little bit too loud but
then you know you back off it like I
said it depends on the road underneath
you your speed you know the engine is
not too loud it's just right in there
but definitely better when you uh when
you turn the engine noise you're
reminding me engine noise off this week
we have an 86 video coming that is rgr
86 the brand new 222 BRZ I have to
finish editing this and the F FRS the
prior gen we actually are having a
discussion of those three cars for
YouTube only that is coming this
Thursday so please remember that also
while I'm giving you reminders of things
season 11 is still happening on Motor
Trend this week is the rerun episode
which is the Bronco and Wrangler and
then we restart the new six and those
six are coming to Amazon and Vimeo so
I'll keep you informed if you're a
patron patrons at certain level get the
Vimeo access for free which is very cool
that's happening you already mentioned
blipshift uh we have movies we have
T-shirts I have a book I have to do it
we're here we're doing it but anyway
moving on couple more questions here
first from Steve martani Steve thanks
for writing in if your sports car is too
loud for Highway trips wear comfy
high-end headphones like a rally car
you're right we both do that in our cars
of the past the 928 is actually loud
because the sunroof doesn't quite seal
properly it's not the seal it's actually
the alignment of the roof and it's like
kind of off and so it creates a lot of
wind noise right over your head which is
awesome so over time we've gotten into
audiobooks and we're both you'll see a
couple of shots in in the second cars of
the Past film we're both wearing noise
cancelling headphones like yeah just
hanging out covering the miles and it's
a it's a lifesaver completely watch
watch my 1400 miles on 5 days in a Lotus
Elise piece did with my son last year we
both had noise cancelling headphones and
it made the Elise wonderful even though
shout out to Justin I have just put the
stock exhaust he put a different exhaust
on his car he sent me a stock exhaust
put the stock exhaust back on my Lotus
and I like it more is it quieter you've
been driving a little bit now it is
quieter it I mean the car is loud
there's plenty of wind noise there's
plenty of tire noise it creaks and
rattles it's still a very loud car
screws want to back themselves out
hopefully not but uh but it actually has
less of a drone and a and a little bit
for me more pleasing exhaust note
because we've all learned every time I
did a loud exhaust I regretted it so
there you go let's see oh got a question
here from Josiah Van Tassel uh Josiah's
been enjoying the show and podcast for
years have we ever out driven the
capability of our cars for example he
was driving quick enough on a road he
knows well and F and he could feel the
suspension not keep up absolutely we've
done that not just with tires but that's
why we want to have consistent tires or
consistent enough tires on some of the
cars we've driven that's not always
possible before I shoot to get you know
everything Apples to Apples but yes
absolutely they're cars that feel like
they are designed for taking the corner
that you know best and taking it a much
higher speed we'll get done with some of
our roads and say I just did that faster
we've experienced that on track a lot
and on track of course is where
everything is revealed because not just
engine power but various cars will get
out and say I have that was the fastest
I've ever done that particular lap time
whatever track we been on so absolutely
the the answer is yes and you can you
know it when you take just one corner in
a car you think well that was different
I like that better yeah Mark you're
asking how do you get a signed copy of
paper father thank you for your interest
I did a uh author Q&A thing when I first
released the book and we allowed sign
copies prior to that uh send me an email
we'll see if we can figure it out we'd
have to just put it together there's not
really a procedure for that but I'm
happy to talk it through for sure Amad a
is saying now that the market is cooling
are there any cars that we're eyeing for
personal ownership uhuh I have a 928
that I'm still dumping money into so
yeah yeah there's there's cars that I
thought about that I've wanted to
replace the Cayman and you've heard me
before I've made noises about selling
Cayman GTS at this point I've realized I
love it so much I loved it too much and
when I did my uh update just the recent
long-term review if you haven't seen
that that's on the main Channel I really
love how it drives and it's such a great
balance
however oh I'm listening I'm I am listen
this is new this is new information no
it's just has to do with the fact that
we went to Germany and we drove some
very special cars yes we did thanks to
our friends at rsr nberg they put us in
all of their hot GT Porsches and that is
a film that's coming that's yeah there's
there's lot on the road and on track and
it includes the GT4 RS that was that was
a day yes chuma is asking about updates
on our remaining uh cars of the past
road trips we are about to go North to
uh Glacier National Park through
Yellowstone it's going to be a really
really cool trip there are new fun gags
there are new costumes it's it's we're
doing the whole thing again we're doing
that very very soon that piece will come
out in aou list we trying to think of
Yellowstone gags you know yeah the
problem is that Yellowstone's Harder
Than You Think to recreate anyway but we
get that that question one time when we
did the Cayman Generations piece when
Yellowstone was still being shot in Utah
oh yeah a truck driver pulled over and
said y'all shooting for Yellowstone I
was like with this what you talking
about of course we are exact yeah but so
we're doing that but then we have been
debating dates for Texas because South
will actually be down to Texas uh
related Dakota and uh there's a really
cool Road combination down there so so
near Austin that's going to be November
chuma I don't know when in November yet
but we decided we were debating between
October and November because of other
things on the calendar we going to go in
November so we will keep you informed on
that we're hoping to do we're planning
to do another meet up in Austin when
we're down there that'll be a only but
we're looking forward to it are you
Adventure Meetup is coming up soon which
is like 25 26 cars now fully sold out it
was like sold out we added cars sold out
again many you on the weight list keep
us informed with the weight list as to
your interest because we may actually
try to do two meetups based in this part
of the country next year we're trying to
do a spring one and a fall one we're
hoping but it's going to depend on
interest we're also working on new and
different overseas trips but we are
going to still spearhead a pilgrimage
trip next year we'll have 12 slots
available as we this year and and that
was wonderful this I I couldn't believe
we finally were back well guys we'll
start to wrap things up if we haven't
gotten to one of your questions please
ask it we ask for questions on social
media on Mondays and Thursdays usually
for release on Tuesdays and Fridays and
we just put it out there hey what's on
your mind stuff like this and we really
thank you uh quick question or quick
shout out to P dankey saying that he's
been a fan since our hot hatch comparo
that featured his current car the Volvo
C30 that's a long time ago that is a
long time ago he wish was a man but back
then we had to take what we got and we
still kind of do from a press car
standpoint and that was one of here that
was one of my favorite roads that when
we were done shooting that episode I
said we're never coming back
here right because it's a it's like a
lane and a half and a place in La that's
gorgeous but it's like a lane and a half
wide yeah it is lots of blind Corners
you never know if anybody else is coming
we were like this is a great road we
will never shoot again so yeah that I'm
glad we survived that there was one
really close call on that shoot that was
early on in our shooting there was one
really close call on that shoot and
maybe kind of go you know what no more
here that would be bad oh mark thank you
for reminding us do we ever wear driving
gloves no I don't really Drive wear
driving gloves except when it's cold and
you don't have a heated steering wheel
then it's the ski gloves driving because
the wheel hasn't warmed up yet but not
generally unless you're doing a gag
driving a Jaguar e tripe or you're on
camera and you're an actor in a
film right I suppose otherwise no yeah
we'll see uh man there's so many the
questions are still flying in thank you
guys um
I'm just reading yes fob Gina I'm not
even gonna tell you the reference I just
I agree with you enjoy that we have not
driven the I4 yet we're looking forward
to driving that the electrics have been
hard for us because we get cars out of
Denver and the way and we've talked this
before the way they have to bring out
press cars they have to give them to us
full if you will well you how do you El
fill an electric car if you drive it
basically a day and a half to get it out
here as an electric car versus just
driving a gas car all the way out here
so having trouble getting electrics we
we are probably going to be doing some
traveling to get in more but we we do
want to drive as many of them as we can
um there's so many the ranger Raptor
will'll see uh yeah right right I don't
know if we'll get a ranger Raptor
there's a bunch of off-roaders that have
dropped we need to drive the rivan yeah
we need to drive the Bronco uh raptor r
thingy whatever we need to drive the new
updated uh Ford F-150 Raptor we need to
redrive drive that lightning the EV
Hummer EV the Silverado EV it worked out
so well for Ev to be right in the name
they took advantage that some marketing
person like really thought was their day
and then they went to lunch they just
okay I'm out yes and gosh the questions
keep coming yeah the new g90 yeah it
just really depends these days what
manufacturers get into the Press fleets
and of course that depends on budgets
from the manufacturers to get cars but
we're still very much supported by our
Denver outlets and we'll like Todd said
we'll be traveling to various places to
get in other cars and at the same time
start filming on season 12 yeah that's
happening soon that's craziness I'm GNA
go here last I'd love for you to answer
this as well Paul Cutler Colin off of
our Patron said out of all the cars
you've driven in the past 15 years what
car were you most shocked and surprised
to be able to drive as in oh my gosh
they're letting me drive this now the
obvious answer Colin is an F1 car it is
because you've got to be kidding there
there is there is no chain of events
that my life should lead to that results
in I am being strapped into an F1 car
that someone else
yes that makes no sense that was amazing
but I do have to say the original uh 911
GT3 RS4 the 997 we were early on on the
show that was 2013 we were you know only
a few years in we'd never done a feature
film the fact that we got to drive that
car boggled me the day it showed up I
could not believe that so that's
definitely on the list I haven't drown a
Pagani wira that hasn't happened yet the
xj220 Jaguar was on that list that was
good for sure you know early on it was
the Nissan GTR back in 2010 couldn't
believe Nissan sent us a high power GTR
for us to drive and they went here you
go yeah do good things do cool things
and say nice things about our car and
we've had a great relationship with
Nissan so thanks again to them for their
support we have a great relationship
with all of our car companies and and we
really love that we work hard on that so
so we want to drive everything as much
as we can I mean not all the boring SUVs
but all the cool stuff we're gonna drive
but we drive we're gonna drive this is
what the test drive video channel that
you're on is for it's for the everything
and it's always the two of us in the car
together it's very much like the podcast
field which is why Wednesdays are now
audio from some of those are actually
happening but we have all of the SUVs
everything they will send us we will put
on that channel then of course the main
channel is reserved more for our cars of
the past or our special series like the
gr86 and then our TV stuff drops there
as well I do want to let you know we
have this 86 video coming up soon we
have the Z versus 86 versus 370 that was
just last week's TV episode that's
coming to YouTube soon we have that
Porsche GT film we have the cars the
past series ongoing we have the m240
coming up there's stuff the F1 episode
is coming to youtube cannot wait and
this week the Toyota seoa drops I
realized the Embargo has passed and
everybody's released their Sequoia
videos but Toyota was kind enough to
bring me out to Texas and Todd was
editing he was buried under digital
footage buried under TV drove that and
that'll be for the test drive Channel
and a lot of people have asked about it
so that will be coming this week as well
guys we really can't thank you enough we
really appreciate it if we're seeing you
on the Utah Meetup we're looking forward
to that but hopefully you can budget for
a pilgrimage someday because this is
what we're doing forever from here on
out I want to go back I want to do a
second one we need enough people to do a
second pilgrimage in the same year
they're driving on track until October
and November they're still doing track
days would you like to come I need to go
back because the track time on Spa is
just by and by the way when the Formula
1 season returns we're on the summer
break right now guess which track
they're coming back to it's Spa it's
like we were just there it's crazy to go
Drive Spa if you have any F1 experience
watching Spa is a near religious
experience to drive that track also
shout out to David for that really cool
shirt to mention that and then Mazda
man9 is asking which hot hat is hatch is
better from best to least veloc in Focus
ST Mazda Speed 3 I would say voster way
out front in first Mazda Speed 3 behind
it and Focus ST last great uh I'm
answering questions fast now by the way
you did ask uh Racing for the sun I I
mentioned it in text but do we post
podcast iTunes iTunes and everywhere get
Podcast this podcast is available three
times a week now yeah we don't count the
uh test drive audio toward our tally art
tally is two podcasts a week again this
is 7:25 come back for 750 because there
will be no car discussion it will be
those questions are always Madness but
thank you guys for all the questions for
joining us this is this so much fun to
do it's really it really is Big shout
out to the professor from Auckland New
Zealand thanks for joining clearly all
over the world we really appreciate it
we're always looking forward to next
time thank you guys cheers everyone
thanks guys
About this episode
A lively discussion covers a range of topics, including the hosts' favorite cars over 15 years, the evolution of automotive media, and their personal experiences with various vehicles. They reflect on the impact of electric vehicles, the future of car manufacturers, and the significance of community engagement through their podcast and Discord. The episode also touches on the challenges of car ownership, recalls in new models, and the importance of staying true to one's identity in media. Listeners can expect insights, humor, and a deep passion for cars throughout the conversation.
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