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hi guys welcome to podcast 725 if you

don't know already we do every 25

podcasts because we do about a 100 a

year we do a live stream right here on

test drive videos so thank you for

joining us and all of those 25 podcasts

are question only now the weird one is

the 50 interval that's the no cars that

that's all the questions besides cars

that's Madness every single time but

this one will be all kinds of car

questions a few others we're also going

to cover some questions from many of you

that are our patrons that posted for the

15E anniversary video and not all those

questions got answered so some more will

be answered tonight though I will still

warn you there's no way we're covering

them all it's good it's going to be cool

it's a good thing we've covered the

bases yes if you have not seen that

15year anniversary video it is currently

live on our main YouTube channel but we

asked all of our friends from Automotive

media to weigh in to roast us or just

say something nice and yeah we still

can't believe 15 years have gone by and

then we asked on the Discord to our

patrons hey what were some questions you

would like to see covered covered a few

of them but we want to get to some of

those tonight in addition to your

questions from the live stream so thanks

for joining us really appreciate it

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way that is that is that is wisdom from

Arnold by the way there's a new Predator

prequel called prey now on Hulu where

they decide have you heard about this no

yeah it's a prequel to Predator takes

place in the old

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we'll go backwards in time but it now

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they they they check many many boxes

were checked I have to say I do want to

watch it but anyway yeah uh so I'm

actually going to start with a couple

things that are not yet on the new uh

questions you guys are asking I am going

to say from walopus who helps us run our

Discord he says what is favorite car

you've driven in 15 years it's the

impossible

question and it is kind of impossible

because there are so many great things

however I did have this thought and I

know it may seem like a foregone

conclusion but I really have come to

this in the last week or so I really do

think my favorite car in 15 years is the

Lotus Elise is it I just there's been

plenty great of I could list but every

single time I'm in that car a car I own

every single time I'm in that car I'm

just like nothing's like this nothing is

like this yeah so and it has there's

many things about it that are

sacrificial many things about it that

are not amazing but I love it's just I

never get in that car and I'm over it

that's a good thing yeah it is your

culdesac car you can never get rid of

this that's what you understand this I

know I know yeah selling it is not an

option for you this point that's become

clear it seems yes yeah I said on the

video on the 15-year video it was that

Formula 1 car that we drove that is

owned by our friends at G's garage they

pulled three cars out of their

collection for us to create that video

it is aired two weeks ago on the Motor

Trend cable channel and coming soon to

youtube cannot wait to share that

episode with you because it was a track

day with us and them and it was a very

very special couple of days to shoot

these cars get in it and experience

stuff we've all thought okay I I know

what it drives like no don't it was so

incredible and so thanks to our Grio

sponsor those guys are amazing and they

become genuine friends we had a podcast

with him episode 699 I believe it was

and we were live in Richard's office

with Richard and Nick and it was just

great to talk about cars and we realized

that's just everybody's Outlet this is

what we do yeah we just talk hard just

all people have this need and that's why

you guys are here so thanks for joining

us really appreciate it great am I going

to invite my son and wife back on the

podcast Mike asks my son asks regularly

does he like Dad

what what's another event I can be on

the podcast for I'm like easy there big

fella it yeah and and my wife might come

back I mean we didn't necessarily want

to make it an every year thing every

Valentine's every Father's Day right but

they both are interested in being on

thank you guys for the interest and I

think they will be at some point we'll

see we'll see what the story is on that

from the 15year questions off of Discord

Monsoon asks if we think Renault Alpine

and French automakers other French

automakers will ever return to the US

domestic Market well stellantis has been

brought upon the world we've been been

blessed with the stellarians to bring

hopefully the PSA cars back fuge and

we'll see they've made noises about that

other French cars we see them when we go

to Europe on our pilgrimage trip we go

over there and see oh yeah Rena that's

right and it's it's cool I would love

for companies like Alpine even though

they're subsidiary of Renault I'd love

for them to bring their cars here but it

really comes down to sales and a

business model and everybody seems to be

buying SUVs as you know so they'd have

to really think there is a business case

to be able to do that to be able to make

money because as you know there's the

support system it's not just selling the

cars here it's the support to you know

get parts and service so whether it's

electric whether it's ice engine doesn't

matter and uh I I hope let's put it that

way because the world needs more variety

I'd like that yeah for sure Richard is

asking he said you just rewatched our

Inspirations piece now that was what

episode was that I've lost it was it was

season 10 episode one I think

but anyway it's part of season 10 it's

where you drove the tester Roa which was

kind of a poster car for you and I drove

the E type and then we connected that to

our current cars of the past my 300ZX

you're 928 and he's asking now that

we've driven them would we own them the

hero cars the inspiration cars and I

have to say that I yes I I would love to

own an e type I really really would

there's a couple major problems besides

the fact they're quite expensive and

that's not really in the reality I I I

aware of the fact that I am not a

wrencher I just that's not where I want

to put my time it's not where I have

skill and older cars take a lot more

care so I'm not going to be working on

it myself so who am I paying to work on

it that scares me about any type yeah

the secondary thing is I would instantly

have to modify it because I am too big

for the car in stock

configuration so now I have two things

that instantly make me go I really want

one but do I want to own one that's a

different level right there I I yes I

would love to I don't know I also have

come to the realization and our cars of

the past has kind of helped me with this

even though I'm thoroughly enjoying it

and the 300ZX has run really well I've

come to the realization that I'm not a

guy that wants to own a project okay and

I'm not a guy that really wants to own a

really old car okay now the 300ZX is you

can look at two ways on one level not

that old on another level it's old yeah

it's oldish so I you know I I always

have that kind of awareness and and

driving that car which I thoroughly

enjoy I keep thinking H this may be the

limits for me on old cars so you go you

jump another 30 years back to an E type

which I think is really sexy and

incredible to drive but do I want to own

that takes that's a struggle that's a

genuine struggle takes money and time

and effort and I think of tester rois

all those older Ferraris you think I

would never own those because you have

to take the engine

out hi 928 owner here yeah you are kind

of been there done that and I would love

to have a Ferrari but the engine out by

a really trained factory service tech

somebody who really knows what they're

doing for a flat 12 engine that scares

the Daylights out of me the bill scares

the Daylights out of me I'm experiencing

at a medium to low level as far as old

car ownership is conc it's not the

classics the Jags the old Ferraris that

kind of thing but you're still

experienced plenty of scary yeah I I

think honestly already done the engine

out right here honestly in about six

months or a year we need to be back on

Matt Ferris podcast hi Matt by the way

and we need to you I want I want to sit

there quietly which is hard for me and

have you and Matt compare War wounds on

your old cars that you bought got wounds

but he's paying the

bills is is just staggering right now so

that's really amazing yeah man uh let's

see questions I'm gonna jump over here

to the stream here Chris Newman our

friend Chris up in Montana asks if you

can mod a car into

preciousness yes I think you can I think

can drive it eventually and then do so

much to it and I think it has more to do

with Cosmetics than mechanics because

I'm still sorting out the 928 as of this

moment it's getting billstein and a new

air conditioner system because you can't

just recharge an old air conditioner you

either have to convert but then you have

to do all the new seals because 40-year

old seals on an air conditioner is

really you know questionable so that is

happening which I'm excited for for our

upcoming cars of the past three number

three trip number three and

uh past that if I start doing too much

cosmetically you know restoring the dash

all the stuff even though it's still got

a lot of miles on it and we're driving

these cars and that's what they're built

for I think you can I think the answer

is yes and then like oh it's got all the

miles we'll ever do I've done the road

trips and now I've got it sorted don't

do anything else I think that would be

the wrong move for me I need to keep

driving it keep keep it maintained and

that just means keep pouring the dollars

into to it did you see that Matt asked

exactly the follow-up I knew someone

would ask when I mentioned old cars and

loving my Lotus he said what happens

when the Lotus becomes old Matt I I hear

you and you may be right but I will but

I will say this though the Lotus is

modern enough that it's OBD2 and it has

fuel injection and that kind of stuff

things that the old stag lacks true but

it is is simpler even though it's newer

it is simpler than the

300ZX there's no power steering it's

pretty much just a Toyota on a chassis

it is about as simple as a car can get

so stuff that can go wrong in that car

is minimal and I have had a surprisingly

good ownership experience so uh

hopefully it will survive Ian dar's got

a watch question we have watch questions

for a long time go ahead and tune out

let your eyes play over watches he's got

a question for me about watches designed

for a specific car such as jlc's Aston

Martin DBS watch the citizen Nissan Z

watch which you would like even though

don't wear watches Chris Wards Morgan

watch are these gimmicky or a cool

tribute I think a bit of both and it

kind of depends I have really gravitated

towards movements rather than style even

though style is still very important

hopefully that goes along with movement

but you have to decide what you're going

through going for as far as what you're

spending your money on there's three

categories style only movement only or

both and when you go for both that's

when watches start to get really

expensive but good news there are are a

variety of not knockoffs but sort of

tribute watches to certain styles that

are you know the longlasting the the

omegas the Rolexes that kind of thing

and what I want a watch that isn't just

something off the shelf with a logo on

it and sells for 50 bucks that to me

cheapens the brand Ferrari does a lot of

this but if it's design for the car

designed for the brand or designed in

conjunction with it then a movement is

chosen a style is chosen and that makes

it ever more special the problem is that

can very easily get to only the owners

of these cars can afford

them D says at what age do you leave

Civic SI and step into the Integra

six-speed manual I we've said this

before we had we talked about the Fiesta

ST once for a lawyer that was like

should I drive I'm in my 30s almost 40

should I drive a fiest St and and one of

you wrote in with with one of the Lava

Orange Fiesta STS in your 70s and said I

did daily drive this age is not related

to which car you should own and I

actually think and we haven't driven the

integr yet but I actually think the

Civic SI is so good I question and I

will admit this bias going into the

integral view I question is the Step Up

worth it and that's going to be the big

question for me when we do Drive the

Integra because the Civic SI is really

good and I do not think I don't think

that it has an age cap cap on it at all

dart man you've got a question here

about recalls on brand new cars there's

so many major recalls going on the

question is are new models being

developed and brought to Market too

quickly in order to stay competitive too

many new and unproven Technologies into

cars loaded into cars all at once you're

right that is that is a thing the

development of a car has been sped up so

dramatically over the past decade I'll

say couple of decades but definitely

within the last 10 years not just from a

design and styling but from a a

visualization point of view and

Engineering can go so quick now I mean

18 months is used to be unheard of it

used to be three to four years to

develop a car and now technology is

changing so quickly and car

manufacturers want to get their products

out there so quickly you're right

they're running into this but we don't

want them to not try if there's car

manufacturers that aren't doing this and

taking advantage of new manufacturing

methods or putting new tech or

developing it and saying all right we've

tested this as much as possible it

hasn't let us down we're calling it good

for our standards for our company great

example is Toyota putting that BMW

engine that's in the Supra we've been

told that that BMW engine has been

through all of Toyota's engine

requirements that's why they put it in

those cars and sold them as branded

Toyota products I think BMW is just an

engine showroom other manufacturers come

in and walk along pick an engine I

actually think the BMW designers and

Engineers go you're not that one that

one let's put that one in something

you're not wrong but one all those

components pass what their checklists

say then okay they they should be able

to contantly put them in there

ultimately car manufacturers don't want

these recalls they're treading a fine

line here because they want to get new

tech they want to take advantage of like

I said new manufacturing methods get the

cars out there get what people are

wanting but cars are not phones cars are

not laptops and I think the general

public expects that now especially with

how quickly electric cars are moving and

you know electrification well yes that's

all moving so fast we expect the new

model within a year and a half that is

almost unheard of it's crazy fast and

here's the other thing that's happening

that that Tesla's getting away with and

I'm wondering if it's going to happen

with electric cars in general to some

point and that is Tesla has gotten away

with oh it but it's okay that it broke

because it's beta yeah and when we have

a technology that is not an old

technology like an internal combustion

engine car we just kind of accept to

some degree we accept little bugs

because oh it's Cutting Edge and new and

I'm wondering if electric cars are going

to be because they can do software

updates and that kind of thing are we

going to be more forgiving across the

board on electrics or is that just a

Tesla thing but we expect traditional

cars to just run and to not have

failures but yet we're doing a blind eye

thing to electric cars or even even your

phone does some weird thing you're like

oh must be a software glitch and and you

kind of you don't like it but you're

like oh it just happens so if cars

become like phones your phone enclosure

doesn't change it operates how it

operates everything is internally done

Tesla Model S's are well over 10 years

old as far as the door stampings and the

roof stamping and the body panels

haven't changed they've done the refresh

for tail lights and and front rear Clips

those are low investment in terms of car

manufacturing those are low investment

so that's an easy thing to update but

what has changed over the years is all

the motors the batteries the tech the

wiring harnesses were probably pretty

similar you can use still everything

upgrade the interior a little bit but

we've still have the same shape and

pretty much the same look for over a

decade that hasn't changed true yeah so

if that's if if we want the fast to

Market here's the latest tech we have to

be okay with the exterior enclosure not

being o not changing leaving it still

because it works and don't don't break

it I see that yeah so I've got a story

for you and that is about the Crown

Victoria and Mercury Grand Marquee

remember these cars tax C cars yes they

around forever endless they were around

so long I had a friend from Ford worked

for Autodesk and and helped out the Ford

engineering Studio he said the tooling

on those cars had been around so long

there was slop in the tooling because

the tooling was worn out and new cars

went together with kind of loose body

panels because they had used it and made

so many of those cars there were bits

and pieces on new ones that didn't quite

align properly because the tooling was

so old I went are you kidding me but it

wasn't worth Ford's time and money to

build new tooling because they were

going to phase those cars out anyway so

it didn't behoove them to make new

tooling to keep an old model going they

just kept making them unbelievable M

Simmons AZ is trying to catch me out he

says Todd which car looks best in white

and I have one okay the original BMW I8

was first shown in white with some like

two-color blue red accents it was the

other two colors it was the colors from

their M uh line you know the the the two

shades of blue and the red but it was a

white car with black uh all the swoops

were all black so it's like Stormtrooper

uh spec with the blue blue and red

accents on it and I've never seen that

car look better than it did in that

white spec and every time I see one of

that I'm just like that just looks right

like that as much as I hate white

granted it's got a lot of negative space

on it which balances it out but that's

by far my favorite okay I'll give that

to you our friend H Bullock asks about

about a new vehicle he's taking delivery

of a new vehicle end of September what

is the first first wash protocol or

procedure we would advise definitely ask

your dealership to not wash it because

part of the prep is to just get it clean

and they don't really care about getting

it clean to good standards let's say

they just want to get it clean and out

the door and it's part of the checklist

as far as delivery is concerned my first

recommendation if you if you allow them

to pull the plastic off and do that

please tell them to not wash it take it

home wash it with G's products you can

do the foam Cannon to start with or you

can just give it a nice wash with a car

wash soap so that way you're not

introducing scratch's first

thing yeah do it yourself first thing

for first wash and then ease into a

washing schedule Ray Lee is uh saying

he's glad he met us at radwood glad to

meet you too man and I it was cool that

your your M5 got to be in that East

Coast piece I'm glad we had at least a

quick shot of it but he's asking me is

my Elise just a faster version of his

MR2 spider or are they different because

he has the Elise engine in his MR2 this

is where this is going they are

different because the the Elise has a

significantly lower seating position and

very it's very different visually it

feels more exotic than the MR2 the MR2

has a very mundane seating position by

by comparison and now granted my

shifter's been a little bit changed I've

got different cabling and different

engine mounts which helps the shift feel

in that Elise but the shifter is

actually a lot better in the Elise as

well so it it does have a more exotic

feel even I'm not denying the the cheap

version of getting an elisee as you do

the MR2 with the engine swap and I see

how you get there and it is still really

and I love driving it but the Elise has

a specialness and a and a because of the

seating position it has an exotic feel

that the MR2 can't quite get there

question on here I'm looking forward

it's scrolling back up about Porsche and

Red Bull joining forces into Formula 1

we've touched on this a little bit

before but you realize that Red Bull has

bought the remnants of the Honda engine

program and started a different company

using that technology called Red Bull

engines so they already build their own

engines they are a manufacturer if you

can believe it it's all the leftovers of

Honda but that's still great stuff and

so now clearly they're doing well but

now they have so much money for Porsche

to join Porsche can offer a lot of

racing technology and a lot of

experience I'm I'm excited for Porsche

to be back the top level of racing not

that Lama isn't I would love them to

continue in Lama they they seem to dip a

toe into the pool and they've got the

winning car and they know it and they

we'll just grab a few championships and

then kind of hang out we're here for

trophies and we're leaving okay yeah

that's really three years in a row to

grab all the trophies again and then you

guys can screw around and then we'll be

back in our guys just built a new

Porsche designed trophy case and it's

empty so we got to fill that and then

we'll leave yeah there's a lot of

questions from the 15 year anniversary

thank you guys for that I still can't

believe 15 years we are here in the

first week second week of August and

starting 16th year it was crazy no it

was July

31st 2007 we posted a Mazda speed Miata

review and we were fully split on it so

it has been that long which is crazy so

there are a lot of questions related to

that I want to come through a few more

zz1 is saying what do we think and I'm

curious your thoughts on this Paul what

do we think are the best personal traits

to develop in order to have a successful

media show or car media show whatever

what do we think are the key elements

traits or behaviors that turn a couple

of guys making videos on the side into a

full-time

gig here is the thing I learned in

Hollywood I came into Hollywood I think

a lot of people do came into Hollywood

thinking that if somebody else had an

opportunity they took my slot which

isn't true I also came into Hollywood

thinking that there was a line there's

not a line well there people in line but

people cut yes so so your experience and

your time frame will be completely

different than anybody else's success in

anything but especially in anything that

is an entertainment medium but the other

thing that it taught me that I think is

true of us and that is it's a war of

attrition it's not you're the best

you're the brightest you're the latest

one to show up it's you stayed in it and

you

fought and you and I here we are 725

podcasts if you pulled either one of us

aside and said you guys going to do 700

podcasts I think we wouldn't have done

one okay we've like no no no no we're

going to do what but and the reason we

have so many is because we just

dedicated ourselves to okay started off

once a week okay twice a week we just we

find the time it's why you guys have

heard podcasts that we've done in the

middle of road trips or in the middle of

of shooting because we've just dedicated

ourselves to okay twice a week we're

doing a podcast and then you look back

over the years and you go oh my gosh we

did that much that's true of the the

videos and the TV stuff and that kind of

thing and so I'm always playing the long

game and I think that's helped and then

the because I just like it's not about

this one piece it's about all of the

body of work yeah so and that's

something else I learned in scripts

because you'd write a script and you'd

kill yourself and I think this is really

good and the script would fall on its

face the only thing you can do is well

not whine about the fact that one failed

you got to write another one well aren't

there scripts out there that are

introduced and then they're revised and

then they try to reshop them and years

later and sometimes didn't really fit

the common perception or what companies

were looking for what Studios were

looking for and then you they pull them

out of turn resurrect that has happened

for sure the other thing I think from a

personal perspective it's this weird

line because you can swing either side

of this line it's this weird line of

listening to the audience but also not

letting the audience Define who you are

which is a weird thing because there's a

symbiotic thing going on I was just

reading an article about how some

influencers just become what Their

audience wants to be I think you have to

know who you are and stick to that but

also be willing to adapt in order to

entertain there's there's both elements

you can't be like whatever you want me

to be but at the same time if if every

sorry keep coming back to scripts if 10

people read a script and seven of them

think this thing is wrong you got to go

fix that thing but what you don't do is

you don't listen to what everybody else

thinks the fix

is you you identified the audience

identified for you the problem now it's

on you as the creative person to find

the fix we've also touched on this

before and that is a comment that we get

from people who meet us in person and

say you guys are exactly like you are in

person as I see you on camera which is

so surprising to both Todd and I because

I have never wanted to be that person

that is there's plenty of YouTubers who

are hey hey sorry sorry couldn't resist

that do that yeah yeah yeah and then

aren't the same person when you meet

them in you know in person they're just

kind of lowkey and yeah whatever cool

man and then on camera they're this

different personality wild and crazy

whatever you know what I mean because

from the very beginning this was Todd's

face it was my face it was our names it

was a body of work and we looked at it

as Evergreen content which has always

stuck with me because we see videos with

comments now I'm like oh yeah we drove

that car totally forgot what did I say

about that car yeah for do I still agree

with myself

now comments on that so hopefully that

is long lasting because cars last a long

time you keep them running they're still

being shopped by people now and still

finding those reviews and we want those

reviews and what our opinions were about

them to be valid now as they were then

and give it a longterm you know and

we're still the same people but but it's

always surprising to me like you guys

just are pretty much the same as I've

seen you like I don't don't know else

how to be yeah I don't know another way

to be I agree with that Skyler's uh

doing a Super Chat thank you for that

man he's saying what's the worst hotel

we've stayed in during a road trip he

said he actually walked out of a booking

once losing his money um worst hotel

that's actually a good question I don't

know maybe it's just because we're done

shooting and I'm just tired I don't know

that there's everyone we've left we're

so tired we just it's like whatever does

the key work there there actually there

was one when I first moved to Utah

wasn't even on a shoot when I first

moved to Utah we were driving and

everything about the day you know with

the rental truck and everything

everything went longer than it should

have everything took longer than it was

supposed to it was all disastrous and I

had our old dog Sierra with us and we

were we were moving and we were trying

to find a hotel where it was okay that

we had her and we just needed to crash

it was like midnight and we had trucks

and the hotel was nasty and we were all

like I don't care I do remember that

hotel like oh this is well okay we're

just G to sleep for a few hours and be

up and moving again you had a good time

with your family at Circus Circus when

you went through and that was not that

we didn't stay there was for the we we

didn't stay there that was a whole

separate thing cheap Vegas hotels is

place to go let's see R Diamond asks if

some cars are more approachable than

others in the four months he's owned the

Stinger he's had a dozen people approach

him to talk about the car same with a

gr86 he rented but no comments on the

Genesis

I think so because there is a public

perception about certain

cars hopefully those are broken

stereotypes are broken once you talk to

the owner and ideally Porsches but you

know about the thing about Porsches

however with these two cars nobody

really has an idea of what to think

about them yet and doesn't know who are

the people that own them they look cool

they look interesting and fun who's the

driver I just want to kind of know who

bought this thing what do they get out

of this car that I think is interesting

for a myriad of reasons so I I think and

those two are kind of new they don't

have a legacy like Porsche 911s like

Corvettes like BMWs they don't have this

long-term thing where I know exactly I

see a car and I know exactly who that is

oh oh that's that's a different driver

that's AIA oh that wait what is that

what is that bright blue car that's a

that's a gr what's a gr yeah we

definitely get that for sure GRE chuma

is asking he's no he's not asking he's

stating dun dun dun Juma is saying fully

autonomous consumer cars will not happen

in our lifetime what do we say I I think

they will but I think they're going to

be Geo fenced in cities in downtown

you're not gonna have a fully autonomous

car that you could go anywhere in I

agree to that they're going to build

them that they're really good in certain

areas which is which is what makes sense

too I mean sorry side note what really

makes sense is just public trans that's

if we really want to solve we want to

solve like City it's public tra we as

car people don't want to do and many

people that aren't car people don't want

to do but if we're going to be talking

about individual pods taking you places

it makes sense that in a cityscape

they're all interconnected and talking

to each other and watch Minority Report

for other reasons but for that as well I

think cities yes but even I would even

say this I could see a world where

you're autonomous car in the city can't

be autonomous out of it your steering

wheel pops out because you're out of the

G you want to keep driving this vehicle

you have to drive it till some YouTuber

puts a Hellcat in that bad boy yeah well

then we're going to drag race it against

the world of course we are without a

steering wheel what's YouTube like in

another 15 years Matt Farah theorized it

might not even exist but what's it like

another 15 years that'll be fascinating

that that is interesting I have

experienced it it's amazing technology

but I think you're right I I don't think

anywhere from point to point address to

address level five autonomy will happen

any place on the planet I think you're

absolutely right remember a few years

ago one of the many things that he

promised Elon Musk was going to do a

fully autonomous drive like this was

like

2019 I I can't he's gonna go LA to New

York I I don't even think that's

possible I don't even think that's

likely but I do think in major cities I

think it actually makes some

sense let's see moose just watched our

s580 review it seems like Mercedes took

a step back in design by making the

tablet on the dash design compared to

the last generation with the integrated

design why the step back

perception people have now Associated

the future with Teslas even though

that's not true anymore and there's car

companies that are doing better screens

than just a tablet stuck on the dash

that seems so old now it's 10 years old

that idea but then Mercedes has taken it

a step further moose by integrating

those screens into a glass panel in the

eqs it's fantastic it's a different take

on things it's too much information yes

it's cool

completely but they have done it their

way and that does seem very

Mercedes I like it a lot the Audi rron

GT proving you don't need a gigantic

screen we noted on that car the interior

just felt pretty normal like a modern

car but if you didn't know what the

powertrain was You' just think it's a

normal car I think manufacturers have

acknowledged it they've tried their own

Mercedes has done it a little bit but I

think people want instrument panels I

think they want some

buttons just going to you know all the

features down in the screen that changes

maybe weekly or monthly because they

updated the firmware over the air change

it on you you can't find the same

thing's the I don't think that's flying

with people to be honest I hear you I'm

your chaos one says any tips for a first

time trip to the nurr there are many but

I'll give you the the headlines first

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rent a car at your current level or

below your current level and get an

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you were much better off doing more laps

in a lesser car with an instructor than

renting some big boy and seeing how it

goes because I'll tell you how it Go

poorly let's

see uh tdfn 426 who would who would you

have make a once a year car feature film

regular weekly video or 15sec short the

straight pipes are Savage geese friends

or throttle house well we need to kind

of incorporate all of them they did us a

really huge favor by sending us their

roast in our video I think we need to

change it up I think they all of them

would be great at everything but the

Savage geese boys would like to do the

longer thing they're they're good at the

long for long format stuff they're very

good at that for sure uh Monty I don't

want to go too long into this because it

still hurts but uh you're asking if

Sierra's still around our dog Sierra

almost made it to 16 it's amazing she

was awesome and clear ey the day that we

had to let her go and it was very hard

but it was for the best it's rough it

was hard though rough let's see I'm

going to jump back to some of our

15-year questions future Adventures or

trips that we would like to do from

Turtles

Slayer we're thinking about a few some

we can't reveal because they haven't

come to fruition yet and it depends on

time and money in some cars yeah but

we've we've talked about various

generations of supercars old old and new

kinds of supercars we've talked about

that as future films uh what else

there's still a lot of Adventures that

we think we can do with different cars

if these two cars of the past cars

change over to something new like an

Isuzu vcross and a Subaru Brat and we do

something from north to south that could

be cool yeah there there's other ideas

but I I think there's still some World

Travel that we want to do with h with

various cars

too interesting someone good questions

I'm going to jump right here real quick

Peter says why did I like driving why

saying he why did he like driving the

335 is more than the M3 I think it's two

reasons one the 335 is you probably

didn't expect as much and the 335 is has

a turbo whereas the M3 which has that

glorious V8 you got to wind it out to

make it glorious if you if you drive it

in the mid-range it's just like well

this is this car is okay the 335 is has

power a lot of the time and is a real

surprise whereas the M3 you expect to be

the big boy I think that's the reason

that you felt the other way pen and

finina idealist asks about the factors

that combin to make both of us realize

that we could or had to do everyday

driver as our full-time jobs Todd what

was the discussion like with your wife I

do want to hear

this I knew it was the Tipping Point

because for both of us every time the

show would come up we couldn't stop

talking about it and people we were

talking to noticed it we'd be you were

working you know doing some commercial

editing for sure I was in a tech company

with AO desk and every time the show

would come up people would sort of take

a step back like whoa I haven't heard

that much enthusiasm from you totally

it's not about the company you're

currently working for it's about this

side gig blabbing about and you have

some YouTube channel and now you're

starting a podcast and you drive cars

and that's making you money and you can

earn a living doing this so when people

too many people started doing that and

my tech company moved on from me I

decided what if I get another job if I'm

buried in a tech job you know you're

doing film editing or yeah yeah we're

buried in that and we couldn't devote

the actual time that we talked about to

devote to the show yeah because we'd

always say well if only we had this

amount of time to go take a week off and

it wasn't vacation time we just reported

to nobody and we could go film and not

be bothered and do our thing I wonder

what that would be like and here we're

doing it with the cars the past road

trips it's it's crazy that we get to do

it for a living I kind of can't believe

it to answer your question how was the

conversation with my wife she actually

mentioned earlier when somebody said

she'd be back on the podcast she was

like yeah I'm game so she's watching so

I have to be careful no I'm kidding they

actually I have had two major

transitions in my work life in the time

we've been married and she has been

incredibly supportive of both because

mainly because she has to live with me

and in both cases she could see the

stress level and she could understand

that even though the jump was hard the

person she was married to and living

with would be better served by that jump

and therefore her life would be better

as well I mean when when we actually

jumped I actually left Cosmic the place

that I was editing for which I didn't

have any problems with it was a good job

yeah but it was because we saw the TV

show coming and we we we saw the

sponsorship coming and so we had the

ability to take that step now that was a

bigger step than my prior jump out of

new line where we didn't have a son and

we didn't have a mortgage and that kind

of stuff but she could see how much I

was working around the clock between

going to a fulltime job and then we were

shooting on the weekends and I was

editing at night and so she could

understand how a lot of the time would

come

back and even though it was genuinely

very scary for us but she was like yeah

it makes sense yeah but for what we do

with a show there's never something not

to do oh yeah constant it's ongoing

whether to get a video published late at

night getting podcasts edited getting

test drive videos done Todd staying late

and you know holidays being affected

your holidays through Christmas you know

because of the TV seasons all there

there's always stuff to do but I think

we've embraced it because this is fun

this is what we get to do and our

audience has come alongside us and said

guys keep making this stuff keep doing

what you're doing and that's very

encouraging regardless of the amount of

YouTube views we get or don't get yeah

it doesn't matter but there's a deep

passion for it that people people noted

and it keeps going at this point that's

very true and the other thing that that

actually this is going to sound weird

because we've been doing this for so

long but I started noting this and

bringing it up during our shoots in the

last six months maybe Year and that is I

started noting the fact that I have

never had a job where I've laughed so

much that's good you and I laugh when we

do the podcast we laugh on every single

shoot we just laugh doing there's plenty

of high stress late night moments in

editorial but when we're doing

production for the show be it the

podcast or otherwise there invariably

there's just some ridiculous moment

where we can't get anything done we're

just laughing well a lot of times I'm

trying to think about any other job I

had would that ever happen ever that's

true when chance is editing he's pulling

selects and editing interview and he'll

take a screenshot be like you guys are

idiots are idiots or you're having too

much fun or what noise was that that

just came out of your mouth look at this

clip and we're all laughing via text and

it's stuff that you know it's behind the

scenes kind of things but you like yeah

I guess that is me I guess I did kind of

say that well and you and I do that

thing that you do when you cram for a

test okay we we take in so much

information before we actually go on

camera that there is to some degree

there's there's like a flushing of that

when we're done on camera and so then we

get into edit and we've forgotten some

of the things we said we we'll come

across something and be like oh my gosh

I said that that's clearly me okay

that's going in or that's really never

going in both happen for sure yeah off

the 15year questions gumper asks about

the experience that we've gained in the

last 15 years which cars have we

significantly changed our opinions about

other than Maserati I was gonna say yeah

there's an obvious one there I'm a fair

weather fan I'm I'm a full-on fan you're

a full-on fan now except for the lante I

what's the new one called I forget the

new one brand new mini SUV that's

fighter I don't know I it's it's a blind

spot in my life yeah I think that's

interesting I'd like to drive it the

mc20 is something I feel like I

need oh you need okay good to know

excellent I'm not sure how we afford

that but excellent good however Mercedes

is a car company that I ignored and

early on we got a lot of comments why

don't you guys review more

mercedes-benz's because 10 years ago it

was part of the the decade just prior

when you know the a when I didn't think

very much of Mercedes they were fine but

they just were a symbol they were a

badge for people with money and you go

buy Mercedes and it's just fine and then

they started to get really interesting

and one of the few that we drove that

had that new uck system it was well laid

out very thoughtful I thought the build

quality was excellent they drove well I

thought I just had this perception of

Mercedes that was always like kind of

middle and boring they're well built and

they're you're buying it for the TriStar

badge and I think what Mercedes is doing

I think they have a huge future I mean

they're they're a big car company they

have a lot of resources but I love the

direction Mercedes is going and yet they

still don't build manual transmissions

except for old 20 6 SLK 280s that are

really great but you know and the 350s

but Mercedes they're just cool I'm

intrigued by Mercedes the the design is

timeless versus BMW BMW is designing

with line connected by surface it's

almost like designing with Beast blindes

or surfacing nerding out on you're

nerding out well done surfacing

technology surfacing a class surfacing

but Mercedes is designing with

highlights and surface and form and

they're beautiful the GTRs gts's are

going to be beautiful they're gorgeous

they're gonna be timeless 50 years from

now they're gonna look great wow

surfaces that are modern that are I

think just as beautiful not quite but

almost as that Jaguar e type Ferrar the

old 50s Ferraris they're gorgeous

surfaces and they're continuing to do

that and bring interesting fases to

denote here's electric here's gas

powered here's you know what they're

doing I'm really intrigued by Mercedes I

I'll give you two actually two pairs one

is when we first started the show

Cadillac was on a roll and Lincoln was

in the dumps okay Lincoln had nothing

our joke about Lincoln was Lincoln

nothing to see here I mean that was the

tagline the joke was because we were in

at an auto show I think it was the LA

Auto Show yes and on the media preview

day everybody had displayed all their

cars except for Lincoln and we walked by

the The Pavilion and they had rented a

huge floor space and we're just going

where are all the Lincoln like this is

Media day you should have some product

out there for people to look at there's

nothing and and so Cadillac and Lincoln

have kind of swapped personalities and

Cadillac is then doing a whole another

research in sense but they kind of

swapped personalities and Lincoln if you

want to buy an SUV has actually found

their own identity in over the course of

this show it's not my taste but they

found their own identity meanwhile when

we started this show Ford was the

Enthusiast company they had an

Enthusiast car at every possible price

point come to Ford they don't do it

anymore but you know who does and at the

time was the exact opposite Toyota now

does yeah Toyota was like go buy a Prius

or a Camry thank you very much and Ford

had all the Enthusiast cars now Ford

doesn't even sell any Enthusiast cars

and Toyota's like what's your price

point sir can I find you an Enthusiast

car that's true who knew although

Cadillac has split again if you haven't

looked up the Escalade V I dare you to

go to the website and look at the series

they start at

$150,000 start and they get 10 miles to

the gallon Mercedes GLS money and then

there's the Lyric over here like this is

the direction we're going would you like

a Blackwing anything with a 10 miles to

the gallon kind of engine here you go

here's two offerings Angel Rivera says a

Super Chat thank you Manny says favorite

high-speed commuter with a stick shift

that's

hard like a like because I can I think

highspeed commuter I think like big

sedan okay so now I wonder if it's like

Aston Martin Vantage with a stick right

yeah maybe maybe cuz because what I want

what I want to think is like a big sedan

but those typically come in stick shift

so I'm going to go with the Vantage that

one I'm a little bit about what about a

highway EV commuter what's favorites

there I have not yet driven the uh Lucid

but Grant granted you're putting a price

on it of up to 55k so that's not going

to be Lucid um okay uh Highway commuter

you know what the bolt is much better

than people think it is I'm gonna come

come back to the bolt the bolt is

excellent the lyric actually was 65

Grand loaded and felt like it should

have been 80 or 90 that shocked us which

actually makes me think that the Blazer

of all things might be interesting in EV

form even though I don't I wish that

every EV on the planet wasn't an SUV but

that that has promise as well but the

the bolt you can get a deal on and is an

excellent car for

commuting if you haven't seen Dan Neil's

review of the new bolt EV he is the only

Pulitzer prizewinning Automotive

journalist that I know of he writes for

Wall Street Journal he just reviewed it

and was freaking hilarious as he always

is but he was sort of referencing the

old bolt like GM's kind of freaking out

about the two years of battery fires and

we did it differently and please buy our

new bolt it was really well written

but I always laugh when he gets a hold

of cars doesn't matter I mean he he'll

drive McLaren and then he'll drive the

bolt EV but yeah he had good things to

say so we need to drive that

soon oh man uh has there been a moment

Austin has there been a moment

throughout the years where working in

the car industry made you lose your

interest in cars how' you deal with that

and adjust your your program to combat

that Austin this happened to me with

movies I got so burned out on films that

when I stepped out of new line in

0708 I cut back my movie consumption to

like a tenth of what it had been and it

took me a while to kind of work my way

back to loving film again and the

interesting thing is here we're in a

plague of everything is a is a silver

SUV so what the challenge has been for

you and I on test drives is what makes

this one unique different surprising

good or bad so because in its shape it's

just a silver SUV but it has made the

really good cars the really good sports

cars especially even more

celebratory yeah the struggle that I

have had actually has been the the

YouTube ecosystem has probably burned me

out on cars more than anything but the

cars themselves I understand what the

SUVs are for and we drive them kind of

with that headp space But then things

like the 86 show up or the super show up

or the new Z show up and you just go

really now you're dropping this now and

that's I mean you got to have a party

cuz I can't believe it exists Elliot

Manning thank you it is the Maserati

gal that sounds worth it Gale that

sounds worth it yeah yeah I'm not sure

about the name but I have to see

something in writing I'm a visual guy so

I can't just hear it thank you that's

that's excellent uh I'm intrigued by it

I want to drive it I want to drive more

Maseratis I hope they kind of Branch off

and continue to do their own thing I

hope they're hitting the reset

button over and over and over no anyway

Shadow blue on the 15-year questions

from our patrons by the way how how this

worked is the people that are our

patrons on patreon are all on our

Discord chat which is amazing it's this

whole ecosystem un itself that is that

is wonderful people have found friends

on there they've done meetups that have

nothing to do with us it's really really

cool on our Discord we went to those

folks when we were shooting our 15-year

video I thought you and I shouldn't just

stand there and do a 15-year anniversary

video where we pontificate about what

struck us we did an intro and an outro

and everything in the middle is we're

actually answering questions posted by

our patrons which was really cool we had

so many questions we didn't get to all

of them Shadow blue is saying is there

one thing you would have done

differently and given the chance would

you go back and change it yes and I

mentioned this and it didn't make the

cut for the YouTube video but there was

one thing and that was when we first you

can go back and watch when we announced

our TV the idea was we were going to do

12 episodes a year for TV which we're

still doing and then we were going to

after they played on TV we were going to

use them as YouTube cont shortly

thereafter okay was the intention but

when we first got the show on television

we had a couple of people in TV sales

advise us to not do that because they

were going to sell the show

internationally so we held on to our

first couple of seasons and didn't put

them on YouTube because we were

supposedly going to get them sold

internationally which never happened so

then we were like 18 months two years

behind on dropping these TV episodes

onto YouTube I wish we had stayed with

our initial plan I think it would have

helped our you YouTube Cadence we've

been on a the same trajectory for 15

years no matter what we've done good or

bad so probably wouldn't have changed

anything massive but I would have liked

to have stayed in that Cadence because

when we started catching up people were

like this is old content we're like I

know it's just this is our chance to get

it out now we're actually in a fairly

good Cadence so I'm I'm glad with where

we are and just think YouTube won't

exist in 15 years so we'll be doing this

on newform what's funny is that every

couple of years some uh Venture Capital

group gets together and goes we've made

the new YouTube no you haven't we're

going to break you no no you're not same

thing with Tesla this is the new Tesla

we're gonna beat Tesla at the own game

and no you're not that's not going to

happen Hal says Paul I've heard Tom talk

about everyone talk to everyone at gas

stations about his Z and Lotus he

experiences the same thing with with his

Fiat x19 such a tiny car yeah and very

rare his question is do I get people

talking to me about the 928 I would like

it more if they did I suppose but I've I

think I've seen people glancing at it

but I'm not there to you know stand by

the car and wait like want to know

anything about my car I'm here to answer

questions

anybody now taking 928 questions I think

I I don't know maybe it's the Porsche

perception like ah you know it's a

Porsche whatever but who knows who knows

you never see those on the road that is

one of the crazy things about the 928 is

you just never see them on the road and

I'm just glad when we do these road

trips that you've got yours out there

driving I agree except my mechanic who

has a bunch of them out front and in the

shop which

such a relief I can't even tell you that

means he knows how to work on them and

he's selling a few and he's got stuff on

the list other customer cars so that is

good news somebody asked me I actually

thought I noted it but apparently I

didn't somebody asked me on the 15-year

thing uh favorite Monty Python scene

because we had a Monty Python referen on

our East Coast thing and it's actually

this is going to sound crazy it's

actually out of Holy Grail and it's the

the dark knight

scene you shall not pass okay and and

what's crazy is we actually I was in a

film class at in in University was in a

film class and we were asked to bring in

favorite scenes and break them down and

a guy brought that scene in really and I

was like the black knight scene from

Mone you've got to be kidding why but

what was interesting is if you start

watching it from a filmmaking

perspective it's really well done it's

very well shot those guys of course stay

in character but it's very well shot

there's a lot of information in that

scene in spite of the fact that it is

completely over the top absurd it's very

wellmade and is ridiculously funny I

feel like it's it's the merge of what

those guys did so well so

funny are you the singing Bush I think

this is the singing Bush let's assume

this is the singing Bush Three Amigos

ladies and gentlemen there it is a lot

especially with Three Amigos let's see

what else uh Lil danino Dano saw 944

around his neighborhood yeah 944s they

built a lot of those things just yeah

they did not enough

928s uh let's see William shaas Paul

Todd you are real Class Act of world

needs more of your authenticity and

positivity William thank you we really

appreciate that like I said this is

you're getting what you're seeing and we

love sharing you know early on in the

show we realized that we just wanted our

best friend and many times I was just

talking to you in the carely with the

camera right there you're just talking

to me and it was like the phone calls we

always had realizing we should turn this

into a show we're spending an hour just

blabbing about cars to do a podcast we

should just do this and so it's just one

person behind that camera it's not

thousands millions of people it's just

one person and people have said that

matters and that's what we want Barbara

yes it is just a flesh wound I totally

agree with you uh the spam reference is

also very good thank you guys for the

great questions this is so much fun

let's see what else uh will Dixon says

what has been the biggest good surprise

about the 86 and the biggest not good

surprise let's see the biggest good

surprise has been good support from

Toyota the dealership Mark Miller Toyota

insult City and they were able to very

easily change the engine speaker so it

was just a check box when they plugged

it in they showed that to us uh very

easy and the car has just been a champ

so far it's got almost 10,000 miles and

it was with us as the camera car out to

radwood Philly for our cars the pass

number two trip did great uh yeah we've

had good tires on it and people seem to

really like seeing it uh also many

people have asked how was that car on

the road trip and we didn't really cover

it for the film

FM it a did it driven bys of the drove

it out it uh so thank you Derek and

Andrew both those guys really helped us

out on that one and they really enjoyed

getting seat time in that and it was it

just buzzed along was great yeah I will

say people have asked what it was like I

was in it a little bit because I kept

swapping out when it was camera car I

kept swapping out to be in a little bit

and I will say this it was interesting

because here I was in the 300 ZX with

brand new shocks which had the the sport

and touring setting

in these these great seats and I

realized that the 300ZX was a better

long-term road trip car like sawing

miles car more of a better GT car for

sure than the 86 the 86 has got a more

aggressive suspension all the time than

that 300ZX now look I drive a lootus

Elise happily so it didn't bother me but

I was very aware of how much sharper and

and Buzzy the 86 was on its suspension

than the 300ZX was for the next 500

miles so there was that and the 86 look

it's also a small car that is a sports

car so it is also louder than if if you

have a Camry or an accord or or your

typical commuter it's a louder car with

a stiffer suspension so if that concerns

you on a road trip the 86 isn't great

but then to your point it got the best

gas mileage of the trip it was the one

we never thought twice about it absorbed

we threw gear at that car it had so much

space for gear and stuff and I mean the

trunk is good sized so in all of those

regards it was just like what do you

what is the thing you like to do in this

car because it's ready when we have Road

tripped I have liked this generation

much better than the first gen for being

on a highway for being just straight

lines no curves because I've never

thought the first gen was great at the

commuter thing it's begging for a corner

but this one has 5 millimeter longer

wheelbase a lot more sound deadening and

it is better at doing the commute thing

even though the engine is right on the

Tipping Point for me when you're in

sixth and you're buzzing long it depends

on your speed of course but it can be

just maybe a little bit too loud but

then you know you back off it like I

said it depends on the road underneath

you your speed you know the engine is

not too loud it's just right in there

but definitely better when you uh when

you turn the engine noise you're

reminding me engine noise off this week

we have an 86 video coming that is rgr

86 the brand new 222 BRZ I have to

finish editing this and the F FRS the

prior gen we actually are having a

discussion of those three cars for

YouTube only that is coming this

Thursday so please remember that also

while I'm giving you reminders of things

season 11 is still happening on Motor

Trend this week is the rerun episode

which is the Bronco and Wrangler and

then we restart the new six and those

six are coming to Amazon and Vimeo so

I'll keep you informed if you're a

patron patrons at certain level get the

Vimeo access for free which is very cool

that's happening you already mentioned

blipshift uh we have movies we have

T-shirts I have a book I have to do it

we're here we're doing it but anyway

moving on couple more questions here

first from Steve martani Steve thanks

for writing in if your sports car is too

loud for Highway trips wear comfy

high-end headphones like a rally car

you're right we both do that in our cars

of the past the 928 is actually loud

because the sunroof doesn't quite seal

properly it's not the seal it's actually

the alignment of the roof and it's like

kind of off and so it creates a lot of

wind noise right over your head which is

awesome so over time we've gotten into

audiobooks and we're both you'll see a

couple of shots in in the second cars of

the Past film we're both wearing noise

cancelling headphones like yeah just

hanging out covering the miles and it's

a it's a lifesaver completely watch

watch my 1400 miles on 5 days in a Lotus

Elise piece did with my son last year we

both had noise cancelling headphones and

it made the Elise wonderful even though

shout out to Justin I have just put the

stock exhaust he put a different exhaust

on his car he sent me a stock exhaust

put the stock exhaust back on my Lotus

and I like it more is it quieter you've

been driving a little bit now it is

quieter it I mean the car is loud

there's plenty of wind noise there's

plenty of tire noise it creaks and

rattles it's still a very loud car

screws want to back themselves out

hopefully not but uh but it actually has

less of a drone and a and a little bit

for me more pleasing exhaust note

because we've all learned every time I

did a loud exhaust I regretted it so

there you go let's see oh got a question

here from Josiah Van Tassel uh Josiah's

been enjoying the show and podcast for

years have we ever out driven the

capability of our cars for example he

was driving quick enough on a road he

knows well and F and he could feel the

suspension not keep up absolutely we've

done that not just with tires but that's

why we want to have consistent tires or

consistent enough tires on some of the

cars we've driven that's not always

possible before I shoot to get you know

everything Apples to Apples but yes

absolutely they're cars that feel like

they are designed for taking the corner

that you know best and taking it a much

higher speed we'll get done with some of

our roads and say I just did that faster

we've experienced that on track a lot

and on track of course is where

everything is revealed because not just

engine power but various cars will get

out and say I have that was the fastest

I've ever done that particular lap time

whatever track we been on so absolutely

the the answer is yes and you can you

know it when you take just one corner in

a car you think well that was different

I like that better yeah Mark you're

asking how do you get a signed copy of

paper father thank you for your interest

I did a uh author Q&A thing when I first

released the book and we allowed sign

copies prior to that uh send me an email

we'll see if we can figure it out we'd

have to just put it together there's not

really a procedure for that but I'm

happy to talk it through for sure Amad a

is saying now that the market is cooling

are there any cars that we're eyeing for

personal ownership uhuh I have a 928

that I'm still dumping money into so

yeah yeah there's there's cars that I

thought about that I've wanted to

replace the Cayman and you've heard me

before I've made noises about selling

Cayman GTS at this point I've realized I

love it so much I loved it too much and

when I did my uh update just the recent

long-term review if you haven't seen

that that's on the main Channel I really

love how it drives and it's such a great

balance

however oh I'm listening I'm I am listen

this is new this is new information no

it's just has to do with the fact that

we went to Germany and we drove some

very special cars yes we did thanks to

our friends at rsr nberg they put us in

all of their hot GT Porsches and that is

a film that's coming that's yeah there's

there's lot on the road and on track and

it includes the GT4 RS that was that was

a day yes chuma is asking about updates

on our remaining uh cars of the past

road trips we are about to go North to

uh Glacier National Park through

Yellowstone it's going to be a really

really cool trip there are new fun gags

there are new costumes it's it's we're

doing the whole thing again we're doing

that very very soon that piece will come

out in aou list we trying to think of

Yellowstone gags you know yeah the

problem is that Yellowstone's Harder

Than You Think to recreate anyway but we

get that that question one time when we

did the Cayman Generations piece when

Yellowstone was still being shot in Utah

oh yeah a truck driver pulled over and

said y'all shooting for Yellowstone I

was like with this what you talking

about of course we are exact yeah but so

we're doing that but then we have been

debating dates for Texas because South

will actually be down to Texas uh

related Dakota and uh there's a really

cool Road combination down there so so

near Austin that's going to be November

chuma I don't know when in November yet

but we decided we were debating between

October and November because of other

things on the calendar we going to go in

November so we will keep you informed on

that we're hoping to do we're planning

to do another meet up in Austin when

we're down there that'll be a only but

we're looking forward to it are you

Adventure Meetup is coming up soon which

is like 25 26 cars now fully sold out it

was like sold out we added cars sold out

again many you on the weight list keep

us informed with the weight list as to

your interest because we may actually

try to do two meetups based in this part

of the country next year we're trying to

do a spring one and a fall one we're

hoping but it's going to depend on

interest we're also working on new and

different overseas trips but we are

going to still spearhead a pilgrimage

trip next year we'll have 12 slots

available as we this year and and that

was wonderful this I I couldn't believe

we finally were back well guys we'll

start to wrap things up if we haven't

gotten to one of your questions please

ask it we ask for questions on social

media on Mondays and Thursdays usually

for release on Tuesdays and Fridays and

we just put it out there hey what's on

your mind stuff like this and we really

thank you uh quick question or quick

shout out to P dankey saying that he's

been a fan since our hot hatch comparo

that featured his current car the Volvo

C30 that's a long time ago that is a

long time ago he wish was a man but back

then we had to take what we got and we

still kind of do from a press car

standpoint and that was one of here that

was one of my favorite roads that when

we were done shooting that episode I

said we're never coming back

here right because it's a it's like a

lane and a half and a place in La that's

gorgeous but it's like a lane and a half

wide yeah it is lots of blind Corners

you never know if anybody else is coming

we were like this is a great road we

will never shoot again so yeah that I'm

glad we survived that there was one

really close call on that shoot that was

early on in our shooting there was one

really close call on that shoot and

maybe kind of go you know what no more

here that would be bad oh mark thank you

for reminding us do we ever wear driving

gloves no I don't really Drive wear

driving gloves except when it's cold and

you don't have a heated steering wheel

then it's the ski gloves driving because

the wheel hasn't warmed up yet but not

generally unless you're doing a gag

driving a Jaguar e tripe or you're on

camera and you're an actor in a

film right I suppose otherwise no yeah

we'll see uh man there's so many the

questions are still flying in thank you

guys um

I'm just reading yes fob Gina I'm not

even gonna tell you the reference I just

I agree with you enjoy that we have not

driven the I4 yet we're looking forward

to driving that the electrics have been

hard for us because we get cars out of

Denver and the way and we've talked this

before the way they have to bring out

press cars they have to give them to us

full if you will well you how do you El

fill an electric car if you drive it

basically a day and a half to get it out

here as an electric car versus just

driving a gas car all the way out here

so having trouble getting electrics we

we are probably going to be doing some

traveling to get in more but we we do

want to drive as many of them as we can

um there's so many the ranger Raptor

will'll see uh yeah right right I don't

know if we'll get a ranger Raptor

there's a bunch of off-roaders that have

dropped we need to drive the rivan yeah

we need to drive the Bronco uh raptor r

thingy whatever we need to drive the new

updated uh Ford F-150 Raptor we need to

redrive drive that lightning the EV

Hummer EV the Silverado EV it worked out

so well for Ev to be right in the name

they took advantage that some marketing

person like really thought was their day

and then they went to lunch they just

okay I'm out yes and gosh the questions

keep coming yeah the new g90 yeah it

just really depends these days what

manufacturers get into the Press fleets

and of course that depends on budgets

from the manufacturers to get cars but

we're still very much supported by our

Denver outlets and we'll like Todd said

we'll be traveling to various places to

get in other cars and at the same time

start filming on season 12 yeah that's

happening soon that's craziness I'm GNA

go here last I'd love for you to answer

this as well Paul Cutler Colin off of

our Patron said out of all the cars

you've driven in the past 15 years what

car were you most shocked and surprised

to be able to drive as in oh my gosh

they're letting me drive this now the

obvious answer Colin is an F1 car it is

because you've got to be kidding there

there is there is no chain of events

that my life should lead to that results

in I am being strapped into an F1 car

that someone else

yes that makes no sense that was amazing

but I do have to say the original uh 911

GT3 RS4 the 997 we were early on on the

show that was 2013 we were you know only

a few years in we'd never done a feature

film the fact that we got to drive that

car boggled me the day it showed up I

could not believe that so that's

definitely on the list I haven't drown a

Pagani wira that hasn't happened yet the

xj220 Jaguar was on that list that was

good for sure you know early on it was

the Nissan GTR back in 2010 couldn't

believe Nissan sent us a high power GTR

for us to drive and they went here you

go yeah do good things do cool things

and say nice things about our car and

we've had a great relationship with

Nissan so thanks again to them for their

support we have a great relationship

with all of our car companies and and we

really love that we work hard on that so

so we want to drive everything as much

as we can I mean not all the boring SUVs

but all the cool stuff we're gonna drive

but we drive we're gonna drive this is

what the test drive video channel that

you're on is for it's for the everything

and it's always the two of us in the car

together it's very much like the podcast

field which is why Wednesdays are now

audio from some of those are actually

happening but we have all of the SUVs

everything they will send us we will put

on that channel then of course the main

channel is reserved more for our cars of

the past or our special series like the

gr86 and then our TV stuff drops there

as well I do want to let you know we

have this 86 video coming up soon we

have the Z versus 86 versus 370 that was

just last week's TV episode that's

coming to YouTube soon we have that

Porsche GT film we have the cars the

past series ongoing we have the m240

coming up there's stuff the F1 episode

is coming to youtube cannot wait and

this week the Toyota seoa drops I

realized the Embargo has passed and

everybody's released their Sequoia

videos but Toyota was kind enough to

bring me out to Texas and Todd was

editing he was buried under digital

footage buried under TV drove that and

that'll be for the test drive Channel

and a lot of people have asked about it

so that will be coming this week as well

guys we really can't thank you enough we

really appreciate it if we're seeing you

on the Utah Meetup we're looking forward

to that but hopefully you can budget for

a pilgrimage someday because this is

what we're doing forever from here on

out I want to go back I want to do a

second one we need enough people to do a

second pilgrimage in the same year

they're driving on track until October

and November they're still doing track

days would you like to come I need to go

back because the track time on Spa is

just by and by the way when the Formula

1 season returns we're on the summer

break right now guess which track

they're coming back to it's Spa it's

like we were just there it's crazy to go

Drive Spa if you have any F1 experience

watching Spa is a near religious

experience to drive that track also

shout out to David for that really cool

shirt to mention that and then Mazda

man9 is asking which hot hat is hatch is

better from best to least veloc in Focus

ST Mazda Speed 3 I would say voster way

out front in first Mazda Speed 3 behind

it and Focus ST last great uh I'm

answering questions fast now by the way

you did ask uh Racing for the sun I I

mentioned it in text but do we post

podcast iTunes iTunes and everywhere get

Podcast this podcast is available three

times a week now yeah we don't count the

uh test drive audio toward our tally art

tally is two podcasts a week again this

is 7:25 come back for 750 because there

will be no car discussion it will be

those questions are always Madness but

thank you guys for all the questions for

joining us this is this so much fun to

do it's really it really is Big shout

out to the professor from Auckland New

Zealand thanks for joining clearly all

over the world we really appreciate it

we're always looking forward to next

time thank you guys cheers everyone

thanks guys

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