998: Finding Your Non-Precious Mode, Isn’t It Ironic, The Project-Car Hall Pass
Everyday Driver Car Debate
998: Finding Your Non-Precious Mode, Isn’t It Ironic, The Project-Car Hall Pass
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Car
BMW G22
The BMW 4 Series is a fancy car that looks great and drives really well. It’s designed for people who want a stylish car that also feels nice to drive.
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that started being made in the 1960s. The 1967 version is one of the early models and is known for its unique shape and powerful performance.
Company
Canon
Canon is a brand that makes cameras and other imaging devices. The Canon 5D is a type of camera that takes high-quality photos and is often used by professionals.
Car
Oldsmobile Intrigues
The Oldsmobile Intrigue is a car that was made in the late 90s and early 2000s. It’s known for being comfortable and having a lot of space inside, which makes it a good choice for families.
Car
Kawasaki Ultra 150
The Kawasaki Ultra 150 is a type of jet ski made by Kawasaki, popular for its speed and fun on the water. It was made during the late 1990s and early 2000s and is known for being powerful and well-designed.
Concept
roll cage
A roll cage is a strong frame inside a car that helps keep it safe if it flips over. It stops the roof from crushing down on the people inside.
Concept
ATV
An ATV is a type of vehicle that can go on rough ground, like dirt or mud. It's often used for fun, like riding in the woods or on trails.
Company
Polaris
Polaris is a company that makes vehicles you can drive on rough land, like ATVs. They are popular for making fun and powerful off-road vehicles.
Car
Ford Mustang
The Ford Mustang is a famous car that many people love for its speed and cool looks. It’s been around for a long time and is often seen as a symbol of American cars, which is why it comes up in conversations about cars.
Car
Tata Motors Harrier
The Tata Motors Harrier is a newer SUV that looks strong and is designed to be comfortable for families. It’s made by an Indian company and is becoming popular for its good price and features.
Car
Renault Alaskan
The Renault Alaskan is a pickup truck that is built to be tough and carry heavy loads. It’s useful for work and outdoor activities, and it’s made by a French car company.
Car
Dodge Avengers
The Dodge Avenger is a car that looks sporty and is usually less expensive than other cars in its class. It was made in two different times, first in the 90s and then again in the 2000s.
Concept
off-roading
Off-roading is when you drive a car on rough, unpaved surfaces instead of regular roads. It's usually done with special vehicles that can handle tough conditions, like dirt or rocks.
Concept
Moab
Moab is a place in Utah famous for its beautiful landscapes and great off-roading trails. Many people go there to drive their off-road vehicles.
Car
Porsche Cayenne
The Porsche Cayenne is a high-end SUV that offers a mix of luxury and sporty performance. It's designed for both on-road and off-road driving.
Car
Plymouth Cuda
The Plymouth Cuda is a classic car that many people admire for its speed and stylish design. It was popular in the 70s and is now a sought-after car for collectors.
Car
Porsche 928
The Porsche 928 is a type of sports car that was made by the company Porsche. It is known for being comfortable and powerful, making it a good choice for long drives and fast speeds.
Car
BMW Z4
The BMW Z4 is a sporty car from BMW that looks great and drives well. It's a bit more luxurious than some other sports cars, making it comfortable for longer drives.
Car
Mazda MX-5
The Mazda MX-5 is a small sports car that's very popular because it's fun to drive and easy to handle. It's known for being light and sporty, making it great for driving enthusiasts.
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Thank you for jumping on, you guys.
Yeah, it's great stuff. It's great
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gonna dive right in.
Hi, podcast 950. So, at the 50
intervals, if you don't remember,
welcome back to the podcast. We do a
live podcast right now at every 25. But
at the 50, we do not only all questions,
which all of these have been so far, but
we also do all questions, no cars on our
car podcast. And you guys have already
posted some stuff on Facebook and
Instagram to get us started. But I am
really excited about this because I
never know where these are going to go.
So, I am bracing myself for madness. I
have a place to jump in already, guys.
Thank you for posting up your questions.
Barbara, we see you on there. Thank you
for jumping on. Uh yeah, post up your
questions on the chat. We will get to
those. But we do have these uh social
media questions from Anthony Zerg on
Facebook. Okay. Challenges me to go a
week without
coffee. Why? Well, I don't get it.
Anthony hasn't had one in nine months.
And I am sorry. I feel very badly for
you because espresso is the the key to
my mornings. Todd knows this when we're
out shooting and we uh you know we're
trying to get filming for the cars and I
haven't had my coffee yet. Paul is
worthless until the answer is I mean
this is the reason I would like him to
do it and coffee. There's got to be a
breakfast stop but it's going to be it's
going to be a problem. So yeah, it's
it's been really tough. Although, I will
admit, I didn't start really getting
into espresso and good coffee until I
was in my 30s, if you can believe it. I
really didn't discover espresso and how
good Italian coffee really is. But then
I did and now I'm here. So, we're good.
It's all happened for sure. Uh, Gon Gon
Gonachi on uh on Instagram that is. He
says, "Am I still getting evil Todd
comments about my goatee?" Here's here's
the weirdest thing, and I don't
understand this. I mean, we live in a
culture where you be you. And yet, in
the entire nearly 20 years we've done
this show, I have gotten consistent
comments about my hair or my facial
hair. And why anyone cares is utterly
beyond me. People are getting somewhat
used to it. But the reality is, look, on
both of these realities, if my wife
didn't like it, neither of these things
would be this way. So, she wins. So,
that's the really the core of that
reality. I think it was last year when
you started sporting the goatee. Yeah.
Yeah. And I it took me the comments in
YouTube to realize that you had grown
the goatee because because I you knew me
forever like that. Yeah. Yeah. I just
didn't even notice. Oh, that's right. I
guess whatever thing. So, that's that's
good. Uh let's see. Harvey M on
Facebook. His son is a high school
senior looking to study and work in
industrial design. That is really cool
and exciting. What advice would I give
him? There are many colleges. I'm not
quite sure where in the country you're
located, but there's many colleges
around the nation that offer an initial
program for either high school seniors
or people who have not gotten accepted
yet. I went to Art Center, College of
Design, and they've got a great Art
Center at night program, which I did go
through. It was fantastic. And it's
usually instructed by a lot of the
daytime program instructors, the
teachers, and they'll do they'll help
you prep your portfolio in advance for
getting into the school, for getting
admissions, and it tailors your
portfolio.
One of the things that really inspired
me when I first visited Art Center was a
story from one of one of the guidance
counselors that told me a transportation
design student was not well off and they
bought crayons and markers and pencils
and tore the tops off pizza boxes and
sketched their portfolio on the inside
unused portion of pizza boxes and
submitted that. And you know what the
the guidance counselors were impressed
because it was different materials but
using what you got which is what
industrial design is all about. Teaching
you to use found materials but also
understanding the difference between art
and design. You've heard me talk about
it a lot. Design is a thousand sketches
that you sell for a dollar each. A piece
of art is something one time you do one
time and then you sell it for a thousand
bucks. But design is all about
understanding manufacturing and then
being able to put it out there in a
visual form that everybody on the planet
can understand and that can be made.
When those come together, you have
sketched and designed a product that can
be made for sale. And it's all about
creativity in getting there and and
understanding those two. So, like I
said, a lot of schools have various
programs to help you guide your son's
portfolio into the entrance and
definitely visit uh a few different
schools. There's a lot of good ones out
there and really also figure out what
direction you want to go because now
there's entertainment design, of course,
product design, transportation design,
cars are just big expensive products,
clothes, eyewear, furniture, our
computers, eyewear, you know, it doesn't
matter what it is. But I really
encourage your son and uh send me an
email if you have more questions. Ted
Logan, I'm going to answer your question
real quick. You said you have to go. And
the answer is nothing at all. Actually,
lawyers is the answer. Here's your
question. You said, "What's the
difference between a cinematographer and
a director of
photography?" Lawyers and credit
arguments. Sometimes a director,
seriously, sometimes a director, they're
they're it's the same job. It's the
exact same job. Sometimes the director
of photography is the cinematographer
and vice versa. And literally some
directors will argue that they don't
want the word director used anywhere
else above the line. They are the only
director. So they will not allow
director of photography to be used
because I am the film director. Other
directors of photography want to be
referred to as cinematographers because
they fought to be in the cinematography
union and they would prefer that term.
It entirely comes down to legal
realities and how do you want your
credit listed? I'll go you one further.
Robert Dairo.
He has in his contract a half space
between D and Nero. Now, have you ever
gotten on a keyboard and figured out how
to actually create a half space? There
is no half space key, but when you are
creating a credit, Robert Dairo has a
half space between D and Nero. Not a
full space, like two different words. A
half space. I had no idea. So, it's more
than the letters would be, but it's less
than a full space. So, what I'm saying
is you would not believe the amount of
credit stuff that goes on. So, direct
photography, cinematographer, same
person, different credit. We've got a
cool super chat going on here, too.
Jorge M asks, "When we race each other
on mountain bikes or on skis, are our
styles similarly different to racing
each other in other things?" I know
you're not going to say cars, but you
know what? Todd is a very much a big
mountain and in the trees kind of a
skier kind of person. And you know, not
not slow, not fast, but kind of medium
speed through I through the trees, you
know, thigh deep, knee deep in in uh in
snow. I've had my experience with trees
and I kind of like to stick to more of
the bumps, but I also like using all the
runs. But of course, if the runs are
full of fresh powder, that makes it all
the better. But I do like uh really
using all the runs. But what I usually
do is stick to the edges of the runs and
that's where all the snow has been
pushed off so that the best powder is
always on the edges kind of next to the
trees. And then mountain bikes, yeah,
Todd can uphill. He's a powerful biker
and he can leave people going uphill.
It's almost like he's riding a motorized
bike. I take it easy going down though.
It's like you guys go, I'll get at the
back cuz I I'm okay going. So, we just
we have different specialties. I kind of
like some speed going downhill and uh
you know, put it on full soft suspension
and get after it. But yeah, it's really,
you know, we're never really racing, but
we defin our strengths and weaknesses
very much uh are apparent on in both
sports. So, thanks for the question. I
love the writing questions. Thomas G22
had one earlier on Instagram. I'm going
to answer that. I'll come back to others
later, but he said, "Would I recommend
writing a book? Any thoughts on writing
a sequel or a new book entirely?" Uh,
Thomas, um, here's the thing. Unless you
are a person who is striving to be a
writer for a living, then I'm going to
say yes, write a book, but only if you
do not care where it goes. You're
writing it for the purpose of saying you
did and getting it done. And you have to
release. This is very hard. You have to
release yourself from the results
because that will steal all of the
motivation to do it. It will also steal
a lot of the joy of doing it. And then
as far as SQL or new book entirely, I'm
I'm going to I'm going to read into your
question because I'm not sure I'm right.
Don't write on somebody else's IP. If
somebody else has an idea, you're like,
"Oh, you know what I should do? I should
write a Star Wars thing." Don't do that.
Try to create your own thing. Now, I
know there's a lot of fanfiction that
goes on. If you're playing around,
fanfiction is a thing. But there's only
one exception I can really think of, and
that is I hate to bring this up, but
anyway, Fifty Shades of Gray started as
like Twilight fanfiction, and then it
became a phenomenon in its own right,
okay? But it started as Twilight
fanfiction. Generally, the chances of
you writing in someone else's universe
and having the chance of that ever
becoming something, you have created
another barrier for yourself. So, I
would say create a new thing that is
you. Having said that, there's layers of
this. The common way to make money as a
writer now is you have one book with one
character that hits and then that's the
book and character you're going to write
for the rest of your writing life. Lee
Child that writes the Reacher books. Uh
Tom Clancy that wrote the the uh Jack
Ryan books. Pick your Well, there's a
Housemade series going on right now.
Once you have a hit, the entire book
world, your agent, everybody just says,
"Well, you just get to write that the
rest of your life because you already
have an audience built in. and so hard
to find an audience. I am the opposite
of that. I just want to write something
completely different than the last thing
I wrote. I I'm limiting myself. I admit
that I am that way. But you have to if
you hit have a hit, you have to keep
writing that character and keep the hits
coming. Our friend Richard is talking
about a time machine.
And the question is that we get one use
of this time machine to go back to any
time or event in the past 100 years. And
only for 24 hours you can observe but
not change the events outcome. Oof.
Where and when do you go? O, as soon as
I pick something, I know something. I'm
think going to think of something
better. Sure. Yeah, I'm going to have to
come back to that one. That's a good
one. Um cuz I'm thinking about various
races, historic races. Of course, it
comes back to cars, but I guess uh but
observe, but then you would know things
like the JFK assassination. Yeah, you
would know. you you can observe, you
can't tell anybody, you can't change it,
but then from your observation point,
you would know more than maybe somebody
else at that particular event and then
you can't do anything about it. Can you
talk to other people about it? Can you
come back here and say, well, I know
what the JFK files say or something. I'm
going to say moonlanding
because I I think what a what a pivotal
worldwide event because if you go much
further back than that, we have trouble
making events that are worldwide. And
the other problem is that's that's a
time period in which literally it was
one of those things where the whole
world stopped and watched this thing.
And that is so foreign to us now. We
don't even all stop and watch the same
thing as a country, let alone a world.
The moon landing. What a pivotal thing.
I I I that's the first one I can answer
with, but there may be others. 86 says,
"Hello from Australia. Thank you very
much for tuning in, for watching. We
really appreciate it. That is awesome."
Uh I'm gonna have to keep thinking about
that landing. You're gonna come back.
You're gonna come back to that. I know
you are. Austin, you're ask asking other
uh writing questions. You're asking
about the audio version of Paper Father.
It was supposed to be done this year and
then we bought a company. That's what
happened there. So, it has not it is not
done. I I look, I'll tell you. Look, I
will publicly call my shot right now.
Okay. I am almost done with the audio
recording, which means that the editing
is next. I am I'm like 80% done with the
audio recording. I'm getting close.
That's good. So, I'm I'm proud of that.
It's been a fight, but then the editing
of it comes next to then do the release.
So, what I am intending now, since I'm
not going to make Christmas, I'm
shooting for Father's Day 2025 as a
release for that. I will keep you
informed. I am working on it. I'm
working on the novel behind this one. I
have the idea for the one past that. I
mean, seriously, I just need to sit and
write, which I have plenty of time to
do, so they're happening really quickly,
but I'll get there. Yeah. Let's talk
about watches. Jason Lynn has a question
for me. Am I interested in Japanese
watches? Yes, I am. Specifically,
Japanese movements. And I like that move
Todd just tuned out. Can you tell? I'm
having water zone out. I like watches
that do spec movements in them because
they are very accurate and reliable. But
of course, Swiss movements are the gold
standard. They're the Swiss standard.
But you know what I'm really interested
in is the Grand Seiko. I like Seikko
watches, but the Grand Seiko is really
for a different level. I mean, they're
they are expensive, but Grand Seiko,
when you see one of those, that is a
it's a conversation piece that really is
a different level of being into watches
and movements and the construction. It
so fascinating to me because you're you
have a mechanical device measuring the
minutes and seconds of your life. That
just it still blows me away. So, for an
awesome movement, yeah, Grand Seiko
watches are really cool. Look those up.
Uh there's a question here. Um, Derek
Miller is asking, "Who's our favorite
rapper?" And I am quickly out of my
depth here, but I will give you two.
Okay, one is Young MC. I just that
that's old school stuff, right, from the
90s. But I liked almost everything he
did. Okay, that is that is super, you
know, easygoing rap by by modern
standards. But I really like Young MC.
And then, you know what? I actually like
Eminem a lot. I like Eminem because he
has a tendency to do something I don't
see a lot otherwise and that is he
breaks words by syllables to find
rhymes.
So he will cut he'll cut a word in half
at a syllable because he can rhyme it to
the end of the next line that is the end
of a word. And he's also super fast. So
I find I find his I know this sounds
weird. His sentence structure to be
fascinating. And I like a lot of his
songs. So I'm going to go with those
two. I was going to guess Skilo.
We're all thinking that right now
anyway.
Oh yeah, we've had fun with that for
sure. I'm going way back and I'm going
to say Run DMC because I grew up with
Run DMC and it's not that they were the
best rappers ever. Ever it was that they
were so pioneering and I love that about
those guys but of course Ice Tea, Tone
Lo, Too Short, Gucci Crew, Two Life
Crew, that era. That's very funny. That
whole era that was my whole Yeah, that's
very funny. Listen to everything. But
Young MC is really good. I I thought he
was really good and he was fast, too.
Ice Tea for me, like the original OG
before he decided to be an actor. Yeah,
I get it. That's very funny. Very funny.
Ted's asking who does the drone work.
Uh, a little bit of everybody. Um, I
think I of the three of us, Chance and
Paul and I, I probably do the majority,
even though Paul seconds that quickly
after. But on our recent Sierra trip, we
had Jordan Schiffer with us, and
Jordan's an awesome drone pilot. That
allowed Paul and I to both be in the car
the whole time. Chance was shooting all
the on the ground stuff. Jordan was
doing all the drone whenever we were
stopped. And that's some great drone
work. He's a heck of a pilot. So that's
who does it most the time, but it is I
mean frankly we're all hands on deck all
the time. So it's a little bit of
everybody. Ray Lee's got a question for
us saying a lot of people work at jobs
because they are good at it but they are
not passionate about it. Have you met
anyone like that as an industrial
designer or a film editor?
I
have. And as we've talked about
industrial design, it is the design of
everyday objects. It can be as amazing
as the interior of a custom jet or a
yacht or as mundane as a toothbrush or
any product in between. But as an
industrial designer, your job is to
design the product for your client to
pull the most dollars out of that
category to beat all the other products
in that category. But there's so many
times that people get bogged down in
what they're doing because it they lose
sight of that because just another
electronic product. How is that going to
change the world? How is that going to
change my life? I've got a number of
different iterations that any one of
them would sell fine because of the
name. It used to be Blackberry. All the
Blackberries would sell just fine. An
iPhone, it's minimal industrial design.
And it's now more about the UX design
than than uh industrial design
necessarily. But there's plenty of
designers who get bogged down,
especially in the car industry. I know
this is not the car podcast, but if
you're talking about the door card for 3
months or a trim piece, and you you lose
sight of the overall vision about what
that product is is designed to do.
That's why I do like architecture so
much, and because interactive spaces
change people's thinking. It kind of
gets you out of your your funk, your
your daily life, how you view things and
architects that create spaces or you
know products certainly it can it can
have that effect. There's been so many
standout furniture designers that have
created products and it's so limited
edition Ross Loveroveve and so so many
others. There's you know a lot of those
named industrial designers and they're
creating individual products. some want
to do products that are in mass. Uh Eve
Behar did that for a long time. I I
heard a interesting thing about Eve
Behar. He was an art center graduate and
when he was in eighth term, he hired a
marketing firm before he even graduated
to start marketing him as a designer
before he had done any actual projects
for clients. Wow. That's that's this was
through the grapevine. I cannot verify
that, but I know there's some truth to
it. But then he was suddenly a name
designer and any big project that he had
his name attached to, well, it wasn't
that the design was so amazing. It was
he had the vision and he's executing. So
that's what happens to a lot of big time
artists. They're not the ones actually
producing the art. They are giving Frank
Gary. They're giving the crumple
crumpled up paper for the next museum of
some sort somewhere on the planet. And
you know, he has his team execute. So
you set the vision and then that helps
keep things fresh. But of course going
to companies and saying, "Hey, you know,
I want to do this product for you. I
know I can change your sales. You know,
we can, you know, do something and
change the perception of your company."
That's what keeps designers fresh. Uh
Dak has got a super chat. Thank you so
much for that. He said he's going to
write in with a car debate soon. We hope
that you do. But your question is, uh,
favorite or sever several
family-friendly podcasts? Honestly, I
don't listen to that many. Uh, I listen
to car ones, but I I listen to a couple
of ones that cover Hollywood, and
they're family friendly, but you got to
want to cover Hollywood. So, that's the
that's the question mark there. There is
a funny one uh about Hollywood called
Martini Shot. They're only about 10
minutes long, and it's a former writer
of Cheers. He started his career as a
writer on Cheers in his 20s and now he's
in his 60s and he's written all kind
he's run all kinds of TV shows. So, he's
had all kinds of writing experiences.
It's familyfriendly. It's always
self-deprecating and they're only about
10 minutes long. So, that's an easily
accessible Hollywood one. I listen to
other ones that are more intense in the
business, so that's not really a thing.
Uh, there is a comedian named Justin
Nickerson and I just discovered he has a
podcast called Don't Make Me Come Back
There. And I candidly find it a bit hit
or miss, but it's he and his wife and
they're family friendly and that can be
fun if that's your thing. There are a
lot of comedy podcasts, but of course
they vary in their family friendliness.
I don't listen to a ton, so I can't help
you a lot, but I appreciate you asking.
Oh, good questions on here. Yeah,
there's tons. I'm trying to make sure
that I don't miss anything on here. Oh,
we will. But anyway, if we do, please uh
please let us know. Let's see. Anthony G
is all in for the payto-play attitude,
but despises paying for parking to park
in front of a restaurant the other day
and street parking was $43 for four
hours. Thankfully, weren't paid. Yeah,
pay-to-play attitude. That's uh that's
all of us driving fast and uh maybe
getting pulled over. Jorge is calling me
out and saying, "Why would you not want
to ride on other people's intellectual
property? Isn't that the way money gets
made?" Jorge, let me switch my my answer
around. You want to get hired to write
on somebody else's intellectual
property. You want to get hired to write
Indiana Jones and Star Wars and Marvel.
You want to get hired for that. But if
the question is, I'm writing a novel and
it's yours, you don't want to write
somebody else's property because if it
becomes a hit, they're going to come
looking to you for why you don't have
the rights to have it. But getting hired
to write on somebody else's thing,
that's where the money is and you got
hired and it's great. Bento asks, "Our
favorite non-car experience has resulted
from HOD ownership. It's certainly
meeting people. I have really decided
this is a people business that just it
happens to use cars but it's a people
business and I think back over the
course of the year and the people that
we have met that we would have otherwise
never come in contact with has been
amazing and where that leads
conversations and connections and
relationships that was definitely a
really great side benefit. I mean, I I
kind of knew that we'd meet people, but
the relationships and like I said, just
amazing, cool people and uh the
like-mindedness. So, that was pretty
awesome. There are so many questions.
I'm scrolling back and forth here, but
it's such good stuff. Uh favorite
national park to visit from Isaiah
Smith. Did you answer that already? I
did not. No, no, go for it. Favorite
national park is Arches isn't a national
park. Yeah, it is. State, right? No,
it's a national park. That's a national.
Yeah, Arches is my Arches is up there.
That's really good. Zion's way up there.
Zion's good. Yeah. Uh, you're going to
list all the ones in Utah, aren't you?
All the ones in Utah. Uh, uh, you know
what?
Um, Teton is amazing and Glacier is
fantastic. That's good. Yeah, those are
both really good. Let's
see. Andrew M hasn't hit a live podcast
since episode 500. Andrew, thank you for
jumping back on. Really appreciate it.
Thank you. Uh Colin Cutler is asking
behind the scenes what gears, software,
camera tech has transformed the way you
guys film now versus back in the day.
Colin, not cars. It is you. Seriously,
it has completely changed. I I'll go
this far. When we started this show, all
of the outside the car stuff was shot on
a camera that had to go on our shoulder
that we had to rent for hundreds of
dollars a day because it was a big
shouldermounted camera and getting the
data off the camera and actually dealing
with it was a pain. There were no GoPro.
I mean, there was like a GoPro 1, which
was like a potato camera that was just
all fuzz, so you couldn't use that. So,
we had a camera with a small mini DV
tape in it mounted in the car to get our
on our in-car stuff. Uh, that was what
we used and it was all pretty marginal.
And then we went to a lot of very heavy
support gear, big jibs, big tripods
because the gear was all big. The
coolest thing that's happened over the
course of the show, and Paul was a real
pioneer in helping me see this, is that
the quality that we could shoot on, we
could go with smaller and smaller gear,
which was lighter and easier to carry
and easier to travel with. And the end
result, YouTube end result looked pretty
similar in quality. Now, I'm a geek and
I want to have the camera with the best
sensor and the best lenses, but
ultimately the way most people are
watching it, it kind of doesn't matter,
especially when people are just shooting
it now with their phone. So, the fact is
we use everything from iPhones to GoPros
to uh DJI stuff to whatever to big
cameras with nice lenses. We use it all.
But even our big camera with nice lenses
is essentially a mirrorless that weighs
2, three pounds. We used to have a DSLR
that weighed four or five. Even the
mirrorless is half of that weight.
Inside Ali, the first 911, the 67
911 DSLR mounted. Yeah. Yeah. The very
first one. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. It was
mounted. This huge DSLR was in our face.
It was with with a big old It was a It
was a 5D. It was an old Canon 5D with a
big old super wide lens on it. It's It's
amazing how much it's all gotten
lighter. And that's the thing I like
about it the most. We have a lot of
drinks questions. Anthony G asks if
single malt is worth it. What's better,
a good blend or a cheap single malt? I'd
go with a good blend rather than a cheap
single malt because if you're going to
do a single malt, get a a really good
expensive single malt. Favorite craft
beer from a Utah brewery. Neither of us
are beer drinkers. I work for Budweiser
and I just decided, I know that's not
the beer standard, but I have tried
IPAs. I wasn't a he of for a while, but
I just decided whiskey wine is for me.
And let's see. SMG
MP7A1 says, "I am a whiskey man." You're
right. Are there any cocktails that I
gravitate to? Whiskey or otherwise?
Definitely gin and tonic with Hendrick's
gin. I like that in the summer. Nice
refreshing drink with a slice of lime.
And Anthony G, you're right. I am uh I
like oldfashions. That's uh that's nice.
I'm trying to cover the the drinks. I
love it. I love it. And Derek Miller has
a question for you. What is Todd? What
is the best percent of cocoa in
chocolate?
Oh, for a non-alcoholic drink. Oh, come
on. I Let's just Let's just I just have
soda or water. I'm not a I'm not a I
don't get fancy. I rarely even have hot
chocolate. But anyway, Edgar, I just
wanted to acknowledge your comment here.
Thank you, man. You said you you think
we deserve so much more traffic than we
get. Every hour every video shows hours
of work. You're right. Every video is
hours and hours of work. Uh I'm trying
consistently to make it more efficient,
but thank you for acknowledging that. I
really appreciate it. Tell a friend
about our especially our road trip films
because we love those so much. People
seem to like them. So, thank you for
that. I like this live watch discussion.
Game Bear is asking if I've heard of
Studio Underdog and wasn't my take. Yes,
my location is set to United States.
What is Studio
Underdog? I'm just seeing the movement.
Okay. Okay. Oh, classic styling. Some
odd color choices, but
I I think they're pretty cool. See, I
like the classic timeless look, more of
a a vintage kind of a look. But the
modern watches that are out there, I I
do appreciate a lot of them. I had
another question about watches and I
forget who asked. My apologies. It was
my favorite guilty pleasure watch. I'm
gonna find that. Andrew's got that
question for you. Go for it, Andrew.
Thank you. It is Ublo. H U B L O T T U O
Ublo. And they're apparently really just
designed for footballers in England
apparently because if you're a wealthy
footballer, you just buy an Oblau or a
Brightling or a Panerai or all the
brands that we've all heard of. But the
Ubolos are really cool with the Unico
movement and the the the ceramics that
they're doing is is really leading edge
from a material standpoint. I got into
materials. I got into materials when I
was doing furniture design because
that's what differentiates materials and
what can you do with cool carbon fiber
or different stainless materials. And so
that's what it is in watches. And uh
yeah, I like this uh the studio underdog
watches. This looking pretty cool here.
Looking Devin Bane is asking if this is
it. This is the end. What's our last
meal? Oh. Uh, oh my gosh. In a in a
vague sense, I'll go really good
barbecue. In a specific sense, I will go
there's a really good steak dish from a
place we know down here recent uh close
by called Midway Mer Mer Mer Mer Mer Mer
Mer Mer Mer Merkantile. I'm going to
call them out. Their steak with the
vegetable stack beside it is it's superb
every time I have it. Yeah, there here's
the thing. We're in Park City where
there's a lot of really nice steak
restaurants and this restaurant just
kills them all in my opinion. But there
are a few uh there's a barbecue place
down there in the same area that is
actually run out of a food truck. It's
the best barbecue I've ever had in my
life. I'd happily have that. It's like
last meal food truck. Let's do that.
That's fine. Done. Texan speaking. This
is me. There it is. I've got to have a
nice flaky piece of white fish. Usually
halibet. I love halibet with with the
curry sauce or the panko crumbs. A
really nice salvin blanc with jasmine
rice. Ah, yeah, that's really good. Or
or probably Italian food, you know, like
all all the great Italian foods,
carbonara and lasagna and all the
great great Italian stuff. Yeah. Andrew
M is asking favorite guilty pleasure
book or movie. Um I
mean, you know, I've said this before
and that is I have a soft spot because
it struck me so much as a kid for the
very terrible movie Condor Man. It's a
terrible movie, but I have a soft spot
for that. I don't watch it like
regularly by any means, but I I do
really like that. And then you know
what? I just showed my son one last
night that is not necessarily a great
movie, but it's fun every time I watch
it. We just watched True Lies. So good.
You've never seen True Lies. It is a lot
of fun and I definitely recommend it.
That's one I'd watch anytime. Did you
tell me they were doing a sequel to
that? Uh they aren't officially. They
they've That would be one to do a sequel
to. Well, here's the thing. Netflix did
a show called Fubar, which is kind of a
sequel, but not really. It gets really
talk about IP. It gets really close to
the idea of as if like 20 years have
passed, but Arnold Arnold's in it.
Arnold's in it. It's just the the
characters have been a little bit
tweaked. But anyway, okay, let's see.
Oh man, good questions here. Gee, I like
how everybody's talking about drinks now
because of course you're probably having
drinks while you're watching us. This is
awesome. or Ham says, "Best bourbon
summer drink is a paper plane unless he
changes his mind." I hope you're having
one right now. That's pretty awesome.
Uh, Mandy's asking, "Favorite Simpsons
character." That's hard. That's hard.
That's really hard, but it's fun.
Um, I I you know what? I loved Apoo.
Apoo was amazing. Go away, please come
back is one of my all-time favorite
Simpsons lines. Uh, Apoo was a great Now
granted, he's he's not okay anymore, so
they don't have him out anymore. So,
he's he was an all-time favorite. Um,
Lisa, for all of her observations,
Lisa's amazing. And then you got to say
Ralph. I'm special. I mean, that's just
he's he's just the kid in the corner
that just throws out something that
nobody's expecting. So, I thoroughly
enjoy that as well. Anthony G tracks
Daily Crush. Whiskey, coffee, or water?
That is easy. See, whiskey and coffee
both use water. So, I can get my water
intake drinking those. So, we'll crush
water. We don't need water, right? I
mean, well, we need it. Yeah, I'll have
some more water. Coffee is the daily and
whiskey is track the know the special
use and water. Yeah, we don't need
water. We got whiskey and coffee. Uh
let's see. What is a popular hobby that
you just think is
boring? Look, the lowhanging fruit that
we've talked about before is we drive
instead of playing golf. And golf is
just a thing. And then I'm sure it's a
thing where you are, but it is a plague
in Park City. Everybody's talking pickle
ball. Now, I will admit I've never
played it, but I I don't it it it this
sounds weird. It feels
cultish. You've got the people that have
never played pickle ball and are fine
with it, and the people that have played
once and now they don't want to do
anything else. And I got to be honest,
that kind of keeps me away. I'm kind of
like, that's a little bit scary. I I
don't know. Everybody that plays pickle
ball does nothing else ever. I'm sure
it's very fun, but that's uh it feels a
little like a cult to me. Yeah.
Oh, man. Anthony G. Is Die Hard a
Christmas movie? Of course. Yes, of
course it is. Let's see. Uh Richard is
asking, "What is the best trait of mine
and my wife Kate that we're trying to
instill in our son Bodie?" Oh gosh, many
uh many of them.
Um I would say patience and a tendency
to not overreact. That would be I mean
because my wife and I are constantly
learning both of those things, but but
just not a lack of instant reaction. and
he's 14 going on 15. I mean, he's just a
ball of instant reaction. You know what
I mean? He's just this this constant
frenetic reality, but I think that would
be something that I hope over time he he
is able to kind of take the world in and
then figure out a response. Crash Test
asks for our favorite onthe-go snack
when traveling. Fig Newton's or
Strawberry Newton. I love Fig Newton's.
They're my favorite. And what languages
do we comprehend or speak? question from
Purdue. I actually took the Rosetta
Stone course about 10 years ago because
I was going to Italy and I really got
into it and I started to speak it kind
of okay. It was like a airplane
conversation because I met an Italian
woman on the airplane and she and I
started to speak a little bit and she
was encouraging me and I was trying to
pronounce and I was consulting my
dictionary and it was really fun. I I
felt
like, you know, I I kind of was getting
there and then of course I didn't
practice it. I didn't keep up with it.
But Italian is something that I I really
like. German is uh is tough. Every time
we go we find new passwords
every time. Things that we have three
words for is one massive word for them.
Like lost luggage is one of I got to get
the photo. Lost luggage is my favorite
thing ever. It's baggage claims. Oh my
gosh. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Really
crazy. Very very good. says the quality.
He appreciates the quality of our sound
imaging. Is it accidental? Honestly,
very, very good. There are problems with
every single thing we post that I would
like to fix. Having said that, nothing
in what we post is accidental.
Yes. Because we work very hard on it.
What what we actually do is we actually
do pan the sound. If the car is coming
in on the right side of the screen and
leaves left, I want that sound to go out
to the left and vice versa. That is
something that we do in post. We do
chase chase it. I I am in no way
claiming that our stuff goes out
perfect. Every single time something of
ours goes out, I could tell you 10 or 15
things that in a perfect world I would
fix them, but I also try to focus on the
things we did right. Uh but it's a lot
of effort goes in. Thank you for
recognizing that. You said you typically
put on headphones because you appreciate
our sound quality. Thank you. Because
much work goes into it. Chance helps me
uh mix it and it's a lot of work. He can
tell you, but we work hard at it. Daniel
N has been getting into Scandinavian
home and interior design. and any
recommendations of sites or books or
inspiration to learn more or buy
products that are not
IKEA. Yes, I have suggestions. So, you
can type into any browser Scandi Rustic
books. Scandi Rustic is kind of a thing.
Actually, my sister is really into
Scandi Rustic and uh she and her husband
have really done a great job with their
home. But two book companies, publishers
actually, that should have some books. I
I can't verify how many they have, but
great titles from one publisher called
Aselene. A ss o l i
neolene.com. And also Tashen. Great for
furniture. T- sen. Tashion the
publisher. They're they've got some
amazing books on uh on furniture
collections and interior design. Uh go
browse both of those websites and I I
think you'll be inspired.
Andrew M said, "Is there a European
country country you haven't hit that you
want to do an international roadtrip
film?" Andrew, in my perfect world, we
do the definitive European roadtrip
film. We start at one end of Europe and
we do the whole thing. It's probably not
going to happen. But having said that, I
really want to drive through Spain. I
very much want to drive through Italy. I
really want to do Switzerland. Those top
three sure those are the top three in my
life that I'd love to drive through.
We'll see which ones we get to drive
through and we get to do a film about.
Of course. You know, I would love to do
it and do a cool film. So, we'll see if
we can. Let's see. Oh, Richard's got
another question about design. Okay.
Paul, you get to spend one week learning
from an artist or designer I admire and
respect. Who is it and what would I want
to learn from him?
Wow. Uh, Richard, with the very deep
questions, I haven't even answered your
other question about uh the event where
to uh time machine one. Yeah, time
machine event. All right. I'm gonna have
to think about that one. Jason Lynn has
a question about Sundance. If you if he
when you instruct you go go go go. I I
I'll jump in. Jason Lynn says he lives
in Salt Lake City. He's asking if we've
ever been to the Sundance Film Festival.
Is it worth it for the average movie
lover who lives in in Salt Lake City. If
you live here, absolutely. Please come
up. I hope that it stays in Park City.
We'll see if it does. But here's the
thing about Sundance. It's it's over the
top and absurd. It's it's very expensive
to go and all this kind of stuff. But
here is the special thing about
Sundance. When you go to Sundance and
you sit in the crowd and you sit there
in a movie that's about to start, you
will have an exper and this happens at
some other film festivals, but I've
never experienced it more than Sundance.
You're sitting there and the vibe of the
audience is they so want this movie to
be great. Not okay. Not I'm just here
because I had nothing else to do. They
want it to be great.
And that is a special moment. Going to
I'm I'm a geeky anyway, but going to a
movie with a full theater is a fun
experience anyway. It's one of the last
communal experiences that we have. And I
find that really cool. Having said that,
you go to the average movie theater with
the average crowd and somebody's on
their phone and that baby's crying and
this person doesn't really want to be
here and that person's having a
conversation with their spouse like
they're at home. Okay, that doesn't
happen at Sundance. Everybody's quiet,
attentive, listening, and they so want
this movie to be great. Some of them
aren't, but that moviegoing experience
is very special. So, if you find one
that interests you, like the write up,
you're like, "That sounds really cool."
Go to that movie. Even if it's just one,
I think you'll enjoy it. Uh, favorite
Thanksgiving food, mashed potatoes, of
course. All right. Uh, let's see. I've
got Richard your answer for designer.
It's two people. Patricia Urola, uh, I
think that's how you pronounce her last
name. She is a starch architect but she
has done a lot of furniture design and
the second person is Jasper Morrison.
They both have their own websites and
they've done a lot of different kinds of
products and furniture. They're very
wide ranging and very diverse in the
kinds of products they have designed
from spaces to products, interiors.
They've they've kind of touched it all
and how you move through a space and
then the objects that you interact with
in that space. And that is really
interesting to me to get more of that uh
that interaction. Of course, car design.
I mean, I won't say car design because
this is a uh a non-car podcast, but uh
Geto I mean the master of course, you
know, I would love to go back in time
and sit over his shoulder and be
involved in the conversations uh about
that. And I'm trying to think Richard of
your event. Ah, it would it would
probably Moon Moonlanding's up there.
That's a really good one. I I just The
world coming together is a part of that
that intrigues me. It's just and
everybody just being so jaw-dropped that
humankind did that. It's beyond
countries. It's I I don't know. It's a
pivotal moment in my mind. Yes. And it's
not a disaster. It's not something that
Yes. You can't do anything about it. You
know what I I don't necessarily want to
see a disaster more, but anyway. Yeah.
Colin Cutler is asking me my top movies
of 2024. They stand out either good or
bad. I'm going to go with three really
good ones that I've seen. Um, Dune 2 is
excellent. I'm a huge fan of Denu, the
the filmmaker. He's incredible
filmmaker. I really like Dune 2. Uh,
Wolverine Deadpool. Come on. That's just
that is the right ridiculous action
movie for our time. It spends so much
time winking at the audience. I think
we've all seen so many superhero movies
now that we kind of want to be in on the
joke. And Ryan Reynolds kills that role.
Hugh Jackman's Greatest Wolverine.
That's really fun. And then I recently
saw I wanted to see it and I just now
got the chance to and it was awesome.
The Wild Robot. If you haven't seen it,
it is good for kids. It is great for
adults. It's one of those animated
movies that plays on multiple levels and
it feels different than Disney Pixar in
a good way. It's not a perfect movie,
but it is a tearjerker phenomenal film.
So, Wild Robot as well.
There's so many. It's great stuff. I
love it. Everywhere.
This is really good. Tattoos or
piercings that everybody doesn't know
about? No. I, you know, I thought about
getting a tattoo after my mom passed,
but I just realized that she her
memories were tattooed on my heart and I
didn't need a physical tattoo. So, she
was always in my heart. So, Daniel asks
if I have any plans for another book. I
mentioned this at the top of the
podcast. Uh, so I did this one. Some
people have wanted a sequel to this, but
as I mentioned before, I I could tell
you where the story goes. I could I've
got two other ideas beyond it, but I
want to write a different storyline, a
totally different world. So, I'm going
from here to a sci-fi novel and then I
have an idea beyond that that's nothing
like the sci-fi novel. So, I'm about 30%
into a sci-fi novel that's completely
different than Paper Father. So, that
will be the next one and then I'll tell
you about the one after that once I get
the current one finished. And there's
the whole audio book of that one. So,
you know, I got nothing but time. It's
going to be great. Yeah. Aaron G is
asking about this big print on the wall
behind us. Where can you get it? Aaron
G, send us an email. This is actually on
a a sheet of aluminum that is standing
off the wall. So, it's not uh it's not
paper. It's printed on aluminum. So,
it's all color fast. I've been told that
the print will last for 250 years. So,
it's going to be color fast for a long
time. Somebody's going to have it.
Great. Anthony Gddard, is Die Hard a
Christmas movie? Yes. I feel like we get
that every year. I answer that. Yes.
Yes, it is absolutely a Christmas movie.
There is no question. I I don't even
know why we're talking about it. Also,
Devin, who I know is a barbecue guy,
said, "Uh, what is my barbecue pre
preference and why are beef ribs
heresy?" I agree. I agree. Pork ribs for
the win. Absolutely. Yes.
Okay, let's see. Uh, oh my gosh. Other
motor vehicles we enjoy from Angel
Rivera. Other motor
vehicles. Uh, boats are kind of cool.
Planes are cooler.
I'm not a pilot. My dad is a pilot. He
was a pilot. Enjoyed going with him.
Uh yeah, I got a friend in town who is a
Surirus aircraft owner and he's been
offering to take me up and I'd really
like to go. We just haven't had time.
So, need to
go. Such good stuff. Favorite toy
growing up? I mean, Hot Wheels,
Matchbox.
Sure. Sure. Transformers. GI Joe. GI
Joe. Yep. For sure. Yep. What
else? My friend had the aircraft
carrier. LT Arnold had the aircraft
carrier that he got for Christmas. I had
the jet. I had the F-14 and I could swim
with it and push it underwater because
that was the closest I could get to it
flying. That's so cool. It was really
cool. Yeah, it was. He had the whole
Anyway, yeah. Carrier in his room. I was
so jealous.
See, have we thought about using
Kickstarter or physical copies of our
road trip films for more cinematic
pieces? The physical copies we did for a
while. As you can see, we did them for a
while. It's most of the software that
existed to allow you to make Blu-rays at
home has not been continued. So, that's
died. It's made it much harder to
actually author these like we authored
them ourselves. And the take rate for
people wanting physical media has
steadily decreased. So, it's really hard
to justify the effort and the cost to
get them made. I hate to say that
because I'm a guy that really, really
likes Blu-rays, but that is the problem.
Kickstarter. Uh we did Kickstarter years
and years and years ago. Did not go
well. We have Patreon and we greatly
appreciate those books and they're all
involved on our Discord. So, thank you
guys for that. That's the best way to
support us if you'd like to support us.
We don't do Kickstarter beyond that
because it just it hasn't worked for us.
So, it's not something we've done. But I
I love doing these big road trip films
and the more people you can encourage to
watch them, we would appreciate it. Uh
Daniel N talking about product design.
Yes, I worked for Kawasaki Motors in
Irvine, California, and it was all of
their products, including Watercraft.
And I did design work for the Kawasaki
Ultra 150, that late 90s to mid 2000s
Ultra 150 design. I worked a lot on
that. That definitely dominated my time.
And what was so crazy is this cool new
thing with a roll cage that was like a a
singleseat off-roader. It was an ATV
with a roll cage and then they decided
to do a tandem inline design. I worked a
lot on those and those have morphed into
all the Razors and Polaris off-roaders
that we see now. But it was the very
beginning of that that I I worked on not
it didn't go anywhere. They were just
sketches but you know the legal
department was trying to come to terms
with oh people are going to do crazier
things with these even more capable
vehicles off-road. And so then we go to
Moab, of course, we see them everywhere
and like I was there. I helped craft the
prototype for the originals, you know,
the Kawasaki version of that. And of
course, now they've got them all. Really
crazy to see. Rich Kraken, if we had the
chance, would we go to low Earth orbit,
the moon, or tomorrow? To Mars? Rich, I
am a space geek. I would totally do low
Earth orbit and possibly Mars. I would
go to the space station. Absolutely. I
don't want to be there half a year
because the spaceship broke. I don't
want to do that. I'd like to go up,
spend a day or two, come down. That
sounds about right to me. Maybe the
moon. Mars is right out. I That is
People keep talking Mars. Oh yeah, we're
going to move to Mars. No, we are not.
Okay, that is an environment you do not
want to be in. But I I am fascinated by
the moon. Uh, pardon me. Space is one of
those things I would love to say I did
and be done. like I'd like to do it once
because I think the experience because I
also think again you listen to all the
guys that were in the Apollo space
program and the way they speak about
being in space or astronauts that have
spent time in the space station it
shifts your perspective of being human
having a life breathing oxygen being on
this earth it is a total warp of
perspective and I think that would be
fantastic
I'm switching back to Instagram
questions see petrolhead 2003 asks if we
had to live in a state other than either
Utah or a state I've already visited as
part of Everyday Driver, which is most
of them, which one would it be? That's
really tough because we've gone through
almost all of the 48, the lower 48
states. I think I only have nine left on
my list of all 50 states, I think. Wow.
Have we gotten that close? I'm down to
like eight or nine. I mean, personally,
like all the states that I've ever been
to. Incredible. Good for you. hit
Hawaii, hit Alaska, of course,
uh, Colorado, maybe, but I'm definitely
a West Coast kind of a guy, Texas.
There's elements of Texas that really
intrigue me, like Bies. It's not Texas
that intrigues you. It's just Bies.
That's the thing. You just got to
embrace the fact Bies. I I get it. I
understand the Americas. We're okay with
it. Yeah. They have a lot of Texas
welcomes you. Yeah. Yeah. Texas could be
interesting, maybe. Yeah. I will see.
Oh. Uh, Devin, I appreciate your concern
about compression and streaming. I mean,
the thing that most people don't realize
when they're watching our films or any
others, the truth is if you have a an
HD, not 4K, a high definition, which is
half the resolution of 4K. I'm going to
go geeky for a second. Half the
resolution of 4K, you can. That's your
white noise. Uh, these Blu-rays that are
HD have better image quality than 4K
you're seeing streaming in most cases,
especially on YouTube. I would love to
have that kind of quality, but the truth
is the streaming platforms don't do it.
Vimeo is a little better than YouTube,
but how many people do I think it's
going to matter for? It's hard to make
that quantifiable. So, that's one of the
things we don't do. But, I I recognize
it. I'm aware. I just I kind of bite my
tongue and move on. H I'm going to have
to look up these watches. Freedom band,
thank you for sending. I knew that I
know the glass, but the Lang
one. Uh, meanwhile, you should talk
about your favorite plane. I should talk
about my favorite plane. From Daniel N
is asking, Todd, what is your favorite
plane? Uh, I mean, look, SR71's on the
list for sure. I love that one. That's
amazing. Concord is up there. Um, those
are two of my very favorites of all
time. P-51 Mustang has got to be on the
list. That plane's amazing. I love that
thing. So cool. But everybody has a P5.
Yeah, everyone's got a P. You should get
a P47. Yeah. So that's an inside joke.
Sorry. The one that nobody has. Yeah. We
met somebody once who said that like
very wealthy and they said that with a
straight face. So we were like everybody
has P5. Everybody got P51. So we bought
a P47 because there's only 11 of Yeah.
So anyway, so there's that. No, P-51s
are fantastic. They're so super
expensive, but they're really awesome.
Uh the Cirrus aircraft, if you have a
personal aircraft, are really really
cool. I'm a big fan of those as well in
personal stuff. But I think that's kind
of the high points. Uh, let's see. I'm
looking up glass shoot original. Andrew
is asking how to support what we do. The
best way to support us uh is to watch
our videos ASAP. Yes, watch them within
48 hours of them hitting a platform and
encourage friends you know that might
like them to watch them. Especially if
it's a roadtrip films, just say, "Hey,
to your buddy, I know you like Grand
Tour, Top Gear, whatever." I mean, let's
be honest, we're striving to be at that
level and I think we get somewhat close.
So, if you got friends that like that
and kind of wonder what's out there,
please encourage them to watch it. And
encourage them to Here's the thing.
Encourage them to sit and watch it. Not
put it on in the background and kind of
pay attention or scroll through things
like sit there like they're going to
watch a movie because I know this is not
the way we watch YouTube, but that is
the way we create our stuff. It's
intended for you to sit there with a
lovely beverage and watch and do nothing
but that for 20 minutes or a half hour
or an hour or whatever. So, if you have
the ability to do that, all of that
helps us and we appreciate it mightily.
Let's talk about watches that cost more
than $30,000 a watch. Must we we really
shouldang the Lang and Sun watches are
really I like those freedom van. Those
are pretty interesting, but I cannot
deny the panatic
glass. Ah, it really does come because
of their their they've both got superior
uh movements. Okay. I think it does come
down
to the cleanliness of design. I guess
I'm all about the Well, see, Lashoot is
good. They're very clean, but you know
what? My I my leanings are more towards
the the Langensson uh watches. I really
I think they appeal aesthetically to me
more, and I like that 1815 design. I
like uh like their style quite a lot.
Bang and son. Uh, Cars of Metal 77
called out the Bell X1, first plane to
break the sound barrier. That's a cool
plane. I totally 100% agree with that.
That gets us into the X-15 and a bunch
of other stuff that it was the a cutting
edge at that point. There was so many
crazy planes that were barely planes at
that point. So many cool things. Got
Hill Air Force Base here that, you know,
when stuff comes over the house. Yeah.
Yeah. If you hear it, it wasn't intended
for you.
If you're right, you'll never hear it
otherwise. Nope, not going to happen.
Because once they've gone by, it's just
it splits the sky open. It's just
incredible. So, it's cool. Uh we did get
to see a few years ago, I saw the F-35s
uh piloted by the female captain. She
she leads the squadron here. Amazing.
Those are crazy planes. And she led the
the uh the four planes that just real
slow right over Park City. And I could
see it. It was just super cool. Somehow
you merge an F-22 and a Harrier and you
come up with the F-35, which is a
ridiculous thing to try to build. Yeah.
Anyway, Chuck Jagger, toughest man ever.
Yes. Uhhuh. I agree with that. Um, let's
see what else do we have in here. Oh,
Richard, you're asking about podcast
2000, buddy. Buddy, can we get to 1,000
first? I I just I I thank you, man. But
my gosh, I mean, look, will we reach
2000 in another decade? I I can't for
the life of me say where we're going to
be podcast-wise in another decade. I
will say this. When we reach podcast
1000, and there's there's lots of
announcements coming up on that early in
next year. When we reach 10,00 we're
going to make some small tweaks to the
podcast. It will still be the card
debate. It will still mostly be about
cars, but we're going to make some
tweaks and we're excited about that. But
we we cannot believe we're at 950 at
all. It's absolutely astonishing to me.
I was having a conversation with
somebody recently. We were telling them
what we do. And because I feel like now,
much more so than when we started. I
feel like everybody has a podcast.
There's so many more podcasts than when
we started a decade ago. And I mentioned
in passing that we had a podcast and
they and they they had this whole
demeanor like Uhhuh. that's nice. Like
everyone does. And I mentioned we were
in the like reaching podcast episode 950
and their entire headsp space changed
like wait what? Yeah. It takes takes a
while to get Oh, you've been serious
about this? Yes. Yes, we have been.
Mandy Combmes asked for the best Chuck
Norris joke I've ever heard. I have two.
One's a meme. The first is the joke
Chuck Norris can cut a hot knife with
butter.
All right, good. Like it. The second one
shows Chuck in front of the great
Egyptian pyramids visiting the sand
castles he built as a kid.
Awesome. I love Chuck Norris. Oh,
favorite outdoor wildlife. I, you know,
we see them around here. I like elk a
lot, but moose are crazy. They are
massive and they and they have this
fantastic demeanor which is very I feel
like is very unique among wildlife. They
aren't aggressive, but they also don't
care.
They just have this it's almost like the
elephant mentality. You don't want to
mess with them. They're not naturally
aggressive, but you don't want to make
them angry because they will hurt you.
So, they just have this I'm eating here.
I'm going to stand here in the trail
where you would like to bike and I'm
going to eat and when I'm done, you can
pass. I just don't care. Yeah. Which is
kind of fascinating to come up against
because they're huge. My dad is watching
and he'll know this story. He and he and
I and my sister went on a really cool
uplose canoe trip with a guide and we
were in the canoe and watching black
bears on the
shore bring salmon out of the river and
tear into them. And we're 20 feet from
these Alaskan black bears. Of course.
Yes. in Alaska and watching them rip
into the fish. And we're just far enough
and we can get away if we need to if
they jump in and start to come after the
humans. But we it was also a fishing
trip and so we had the freshest salmon
because the guide brought a habachi. Oh
wow. And he grilled them right there and
so we were having fresh salmon and the
bears were having fresh salmon and
fresh salmon for everybody. I like it
was good. So crazy. It was cool. Uh Cars
of Metal says he's never seen me and
Hugo Weaving in the same room. I will
take that as a compliment. I will
absolutely take that as a compliment.
He's a phenomenal actor. I love his
voice work. Uh he's really great. He was
in He's in slow horses. I've been in
Slow Horses. That's a surprising show
that most people don't realize. My
sister got me into that. It's a really
good show and he's in the latest season
of Slow Horses. I was wondering like
that guy looks familiar. I've seen him
somewhere and yeah, crazy. Mr. Anderson
like if he had said that they have to
work that in there somehow. You would
think they would, but he's such a good
actor and he's been in Lord of the Rings
and making series is superb. Very good.
If you haven't seen that, that's
actually based on a We're back to
writing. It's based on a series of
unloved novels. This guy was a published
author that wrote a bunch of Slow Horses
novels. It's one of those things where I
say unloved. He's been successful as an
author and he's written a bunch of these
books, but they never really caught
fire. They had an audience, but they
never really caught fire because they're
the anti- James Bond books from a
British author. And now they have this
Apple series where you have to kind of
be concerned about Gary Oldman. I mean,
Gary Oldman played Commissioner Gordon.
Yes. You Well, here's what you need to
do. If you're going to watch Slow Horses
on Apple TV, you you want to see get a
picture of Gary Oldman from the
Christopher Nolan Batman movies and then
jump immediately to watch him in Slow
Horses and you'll think he's about to
die. He is so disheveled and overweight
and awful looking and he nails this
part. It is the exact anti-James Bond.
But this Yeah. TV series has made the
novels a whole other level of successful
and I love to hear that. So that's
really cool for also in the what was the
Bruce Willis movie? Leo Dallas
multipass. Oh yeah, of course. Fifth
Element. Fifth Element. Fifth Element is
an unsung movie that Well, of course
that's a long long time ago. Yeah. Mhm.
He had some crazy movies. He did. Yes.
Best coffee brand and blend. I'm
currently into Lovatza Super Crema. Get
it on Amazon.
Sure. It's a bunch of words I've never
heard strung together. I did discover
Lovatza because they have a coffee shop
inside the Palazzo in Vegas and there's
also Illy and I like Illy a lot, but
Lovatza is pretty darn good. I I I have
to have the medium roast because my
machine that I got in January only takes
medium roast and you can actually void
the warranty if you get too dark of a
roast because the oil from the beans
will clog up the grinder and void you
warranty. The ceramic bits in there
won't anyway. So, there's problems I've
never ever heard of which is amazing. I
have to be careful about the roast color
of my I bean blend. This entire
conversation is something I have never
worried about or heard of until right
now. So that's kind of amazing. All
right. Who knew? Mandy is asking if we
had to watch a show or film with a poor
director with great acting or something
with a great director but mediocre
acting, what would we pick? You know,
actually I think I think great
performances can overcome a bad director
in most cases. One of the rare
exceptions and but you'll see proof of
it is the Star Wars movies. George
Lucas, big idea guy, created a good
universe. Watch his stuff. He likes the
acting style of the 20s and 30s, which
feels really stilted and awful today.
So, watch the first Star Wars movie, the
original 1977 Star Wars movie. He's
clearly giving direction to everybody.
And Alec Guinness and Harrison Ford just
don't care. They do their own thing and
they do the best work in the film. Okay.
And you go you jump to when he did the
first movie of the uh the first movie of
the second trilogy, if you will. And you
have Euan McGregor, Natalie Portman, and
Liam Niss. Nobody's arguing that these
are bad actors and they do some of their
worst work ever because he's directing
them and trying to get them to act
stilted. And so when they step out on
their own, they do their best works. I
do think that really good acting can
elevate. You can have the best director
in the world, but if an actor gives a
line and it feels fake, there's little
coming back from that, unfortunately.
Anthony Zurg says, "Paul, is the
Bachelor about town. Which of my fleet
attracts more attention from the ladies?
I can't decide if it's my Rossignal skis
or my pivot
bike." I would like to think it's the
bike. You know, when you roll up and
you've, you know, done some cool jumps
and you're, you know, rocking it, right?
That's our That's our typical rock that
pivots. Sweet. You do have a very cool
bike. I will say that the pivot bike is
very very nice. See, I'm I'm hoping the
ladies would like my pivot bike. Notice
notice the pivot. Good lord. Thoughts on
Shark NATO? I think Shark NATO is a
perfect You could teach I could teach a
course on Shark NATO. Shark NATO is the
perfect example of why Hollywood is
stupid and why it's awesome. It is both.
The fact that there are sequels to Shark
NATO, this is what happens. You have a
stupid idea. You get some D-level actors
that used to be famous. It catches fire
for its absurdity. And then what do you
think? Not well that was lightning in a
bottle. We got a lot of money. That's
nice. No, we should do six more. It the
first one was bad. So how I mean how
they don't get better. Okay. When you do
this many sequels on a bad idea, it just
keeps getting worse. You know, I
actually know a producer who did a movie
called Sand
Sharks because they saw the success of
Shark NATO. That sounds bad. They did a
movie called Sand Sharks, which is
exactly what you think it is. Somehow
sharks are traveling through sand and
jumping up and killing PE. I I don't
understand it either, but that was at
least successful enough to make the plot
of the other guys. Mark Wahberg I just
Will Ferrell, they talk about that. Sand
Sharks. Mhm. What would be the syllabus
in The Fast and
Furious? Devin, you're killing it. I
love it. That would be an easy course to
teach. It would be a very easy course to
teach because you have the first movie
which is at at most a uh it's a it's a
cop entrapment movie. That's what it is
at best if you give it like its best
version. Just set in the world of cars.
So is the second one, but worse. The
third one is essentially just a cultural
appropriation movie. Let's show you why
drifting is cool because you don't even
have the original people in it. Then the
fourth one, somebody goes, "What if we
brought back the original cast and made
it a heist movie and now we're into like
Die Hard on Wheels." There's a fantastic
progression there. I could totally call
it that. I could retain Die Hard on
Wheels. I could teach that course.
Absolutely. Yep.
Gosh. Uh let's see. Trying not to miss
stuff. People are telling jokes on the
live streams. I love it. It's fantastic.
It's great stuff. Great. It's great
stuff. Um, so here's a question that
gets personal and I don't know uh if
you're going to be like, I thought so or
no, I don't think so. And it references
to a question I saw earlier. Um,
somebody said earlier and I think they
actually removed the question, but I did
see it. They said, Todd, I was watching
an old episode and wow, aging's been a
problem, hasn't it? Yes, it has. Yes,
this is what I'm working with. It wasn't
great to begin with. I had terrible skin
in college when I was supposed to be at
my best and it just hasn't progressed. I
am aging for both me and my wife. I have
said this for years. She is timeless and
I am aging for both of us. So, there's
that question. But you also asked, "How
old are we? It's never really been
discussed." We don't hide it, but it's
also not something we discuss a lot.
We're both 51, so that's e right now. I
can tell you right now, you're either
going, "Wow, they're 51." Or, "Oh,
that's not good for 51." Depending on
your take, that's the answer. AJ,
nothing but a number. Yep. It's all in
your head. It's Well, here's a question.
How old do we act? Well, but there's
your actual age and then there's
hopefully how old you act, which is But
here's the problem. I know plenty of
guys in their 60s that act like they're
18 or 20 and I'm like, "Stop it." That's
true. Stop it. Put the vape down. Drive
like that. Okay. I've met that guy. And
then you meet the other I was this
person. I was 17 and acted like I was
30. For better and for worse. That's
just how it's always been. Yeah.
Oh
man, Greg Evans, what authors inspire
me? I love Stephen King. I love Stephen
King because he keeps write with the
exception of a couple of things. He
keeps writing new stuff. He doesn't just
do a series of books. I mean, I love his
gunslinger series. Uh, and that was very
inspirational for me as as a young
person learning to write. Uh, I've read
his on writing book, but I like the
variety of kinds of things he he's
written. A lot of people just think of
him as a horror writer, but he does some
of the best work of making normal
people, unremarkable people, the heroes
of his books. And when you read stuff
like a Jack Reacher novel, and I'm not
trying to pick on it, but it's the
reality. He's a superhero in spite of
the fact he's not, and he does the exact
opposite. I really like that.
Um, there are writers that crank out
stuff at a constant level, and I just
think, "Wow, I got to get after it."
just so many times I'm just like, "Wow,
he wrote that too, huh?" So, uh that
that's the thing that keeps me uh keeps
me working on it. So,
anyway, KASM Stamps asked if we invest
or
speculate. Uh KSM does both, but more
investing. I am more of an investor,
too. Yes, I haven't been lately, but
I've been looking at a few things and
Yeah, I'm definitely more of an
investor. Yep. Yep.
Uh, are either of us motorcycle riders
at all? Joseph Fischer, used to be. Used
to be I when I had my uh my Kawasaki
design days, I would check out some
bikes from the press fleet because I
could. And I just decided it's not if,
but when something was going to happen.
And so I traded two motorcycle helmets
for a nasty couch. And then I had a
nasty couch. And
uh it served me well. You too could have
a nasty couch.
served me well for a little while until
I could afford a different couch. But
you know what? Uh yeah, I've just been
into cars ever since. And I I have to
admit, cars were always my thing. From
the time I was two, it was always cars.
Daniel is asking if we're Marvel fans.
Look, I'm movie fans in general. Marvel
completely revolutionized, for better
and for worse, how movies have been made
in the last 10 or 15 years. I think the
first decade of Marvel up until they got
to Avengers Endgame, I think that is a
good series, but I really think and they
were never going to do it because they
were making money. They should have
stopped. Okay. Since then, what you're
having now is major characters have
died. The people that people love have
gone away. Now you're trying to I hate
to say it, but kind of troll for
characters we haven't really heard of
and build them up. They're struggling.
Sorry. What movie are we talking about?
Marvel. The Marvel. Marvel. Okay. Just
reading. Yeah, I know. You've zoned out.
It's fine. I was zoning out. It's fine.
I mean, Marvel's cool. I love Marvel.
So, I really liked Up to Endgame. I
didn't like all those movies, but in
general, that kind of series, they
should have just gone out on a high and
been like, we've done a revolutionary
thing in the history of film and we
should stop now. Now, you see a new
Marvel movie come up and you go, do I
care? And sometimes maybe, but in
general, I think the audience does too.
They're like, I don't know. I So,
anyway, we'll see. We'll see where they
go from there.
Holy moly, we are already well past
debut spoken word album is called Nasty
Couch.
years ago, our friend Nathan actually
made a mock album cover for Paul's first
album. We should resurrect that because
uh yeah. Um are there Reacher movies
there or not? There's a Reacher TV
series. Um that's actually doing okay.
Now, there was a Reacher two or three
Reacher movies starring Tom Cruz, who is
the exact opposite of the description of
the guy in the novel, which is why Alan
Richson, the behemoth guy, that he is
perfect because he exactly matches the
the thing there. So, there's been a
successful series on Amazon. Um, yeah.
Anyway, who is our favorite Avenger?
Batman.
Good night, everybody. Good night,
everybody. Just kidding.
Just kidding. It's funny. It's funny.
That's very funny. I do like that very
much. Iron Man, of course, Iron Man's
awesome. And here's the thing. I will
say this. Captain America it late in the
series. Okay. Captain America when he's
Super Boy Scout, it's like, you know,
have some reality in the world. When he
gets a little later in the series, I
think he's really awesome.
As both of us have changed over the
years, is there a car segment we have
felt we appreciate more or or focus on
more compared to our earlier days of
reviews? Say off-roading. Say doing uh
doing more 4x4ing and off-roading. I
appreciate it more. It wasn't something
I ever really was into, but with the uh
the availability of Moab nearby. Yeah.
Not uh not terrible.
Freedom van. Hey Todd, Doug Deurro will
probably sell you his Cayenne when he's
done with the series. I have two and I
am doing just fine. Thank you very much.
We've got some cool stuff coming up with
the Rubik and I can't wait to really
please stop going to start. Please stop.
Daniel is asking for a list of movies
that you must see. Daniel, that how much
time do you have? I have a list. Um,
here's a question I love asking people.
And I'm not going to to to run this down
too far, but the question I love asking
people, your top three or five movies
you've ever seen, because I feel like
you can really find out what resonates
with a person when you find out their
top five movies. And when I say that,
I'm a movie geek. I don't mean the top
five movies a movie person really ought
to see. I mean top five movies that if
some if one of your friends said, "I've
never seen that." You'd be like, "We're
watching it right now. I love it so
much. I find top five movie list to be
great. I could go on and on. I have a
list on my phone. My son was just adding
to it of movies I want to make sure we
see together. Uh there are so very many,
but I'm going to give you uh a couple.
If you've never seen Unforgiven, it is a
phenomenal western you should see. If
you've never seen Lawrence of Arabia,
that is the pinnacle of old movie
making. It is shot in Panavision, super
widescreen. They actually did everything
you see in the movie. People were out in
the middle of the desert with hundreds
of people on camels having an actual
fight. This is what inspired Stephen
Spielberg's
creat totally sounds like it. No, but
it's what in inspired Steven Spielberg's
set building and and the way he built
the the sequences of Indiana Jones comes
from Lawrence of Arabia. Now, it is a
4hour movie. It has a pacing where if
you made it now, the movie be like 80
minutes long and they did it for four
hours. It has 1960s pacing. But if you
want to see how big movies used to be,
Lawrence of Arabia is a mustsee.
Speaking of investing, Cade Cuda is
asking if I'm an investor in Bitcoin,
and I am not. I have a friend who is,
and he's hand open, worms everywhere.
Sorry, what? He's so into it. He has a
Cyber Truck wrapped in Bitcoin orange.
Even got the brake calipers coated
Bitcoin orange. So, it's uh he's really
into it. And uh I have not jumped on
that uh on that bandwagon yet. I'm not
sure if I'm going to, but we'll see. I'm
more of a traditional stock market
investor, but uh yeah, there's there's a
lot of tech that I'm into. Energy. I
like a lot of things. I'm going to stay
out of the Bitcoin. I I have I mean, his
truck, you can't miss his truck. Cyber
Truck.
Bitcoin Orange. Yeah, that's he he uh
Quiet Man, Pulp Fiction, and Pans
Labyrinth. Those are three great movies.
Pan's Labyrinth is creepy and awesome.
Germo del Toro killing it with that
movie. Um, that is such good film making
and actually that was a new line movie
that I worked on. That was late in my
new line opportunity and uh I was very
very proud to work on that. Children of
men is another good one if you're
talking about somebody's bringing up
Clive Owen movies. Uh, that's another
really good one too. I'm a 928 investor.
You are. That is where your money goes
not into
Bitcoin 928 all of the time. Yes. Yeah.
That's a bad one. It's a bad one. Well,
should we uh wrap things up? I Man, I'm
like I said, I'm scrolling back through
as we're so much good stuff, you guys.
This is always fun. I I actually really
enjoy the All Question No Cars podcast.
We couldn't do it every time, obviously,
because we'd run out of topics, but you
guys like get pent up about questions
you want to ask. It's so awesome. Gets
us off in all kinds of things. It's
great. Sure. Let's see. Eugene Wang asks
me, "What is my go-to daily sipper as of
late?" Uh, Eugene personally finds
Angel's Envy Single Barrel in Sturgeis,
South Dakota, and it's amazing. And I
still have not had it. Uh, let's see. I
discovered Garrison Brothers, a Texas
whiskey, thanks to Monica and Nugget,
who brought it to one of our meetups
recently, and it was really good. We're
all sort of looking at each other like,
"Yeah, this is great. Good stuff." It's
not the Daily Sipper. I'm still into,
you know, the the single malts abalore
and the Japanese whisies are still good.
But uh that's cool. I'm glad you found
that. I uh haven't been into it all
summer long. We've been traveling and
it's just been hot weather, but you
know, the uh the snow's starting to fly
in the This is how I know this needs to
end in the chat right now. My wife is
asking questions about Doug Deuro's
Cayenne in case we want to buy it. So,
good night everybody. That that really
is probably the place we need to end it.
So, that's really good. Thanks to my
lovely wife for watching and and footing
up with me in general. That's pretty
awesome. Uh there will be more of these.
We will continue with the lives at every
25. So that means 975 is coming. 1,000,
I promise you, is going to be epic. We
are working on that. I I wish I could
tell you more, but I want to I want to
hold it close to the vest till we get a
little closer, but it's going to be
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About this episode
A lively discussion unfolds as the hosts tackle a variety of listener questions, ranging from personal anecdotes to insights on industrial design and filmmaking. They share their experiences with coffee, favorite outdoor activities, and even delve into the nuances of writing and publishing. The conversation also touches on the evolution of their podcast and filmmaking techniques, revealing their passion for connecting with audiences. With humor and camaraderie, they explore topics like time travel, favorite movies, and even the peculiarities of their favorite watches.
Original notes
Can you reset your ‘precious threshold’ somehow? For Topic Tuesday, the Russell M. Asks the guys how do you prevent the high value of cars from polluting the joy of owning and driving them? Then, they debate small-car experiences (with trunk space) for Jake, who has driven nearly everything. Social media questions ask why is Alfa the only company offering moose-antler shifter paddles, is there an aspect Todd would choose that’s equivalent to Paul’s appreciation of a good door-thunk, and what do the guys keep on their keyrings?
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