998: Finding Your Non-Precious Mode, Isn’t It Ironic, The Project-Car Hall Pass

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because I can hear us. So, I am going to

jump in and we're going to make this

happen. But, uh, holy crap, we got a lot

going on. Checkity check. Excellent.

Chance, thank you. Yep. Glad we can be

heard. That's the whole point of a

podcast. Really? That's What are we

doing here? Yeah. Anyway. All right.

Okay. All right. Nathaniel G. Loud and

clear from New York. That's awesome.

Thank you for jumping on, you guys.

Yeah, it's great stuff. It's great

stuff. All right. We're gonna we're

gonna dive right in.

Hi, podcast 950. So, at the 50

intervals, if you don't remember,

welcome back to the podcast. We do a

live podcast right now at every 25. But

at the 50, we do not only all questions,

which all of these have been so far, but

we also do all questions, no cars on our

car podcast. And you guys have already

posted some stuff on Facebook and

Instagram to get us started. But I am

really excited about this because I

never know where these are going to go.

So, I am bracing myself for madness. I

have a place to jump in already, guys.

Thank you for posting up your questions.

Barbara, we see you on there. Thank you

for jumping on. Uh yeah, post up your

questions on the chat. We will get to

those. But we do have these uh social

media questions from Anthony Zerg on

Facebook. Okay. Challenges me to go a

week without

coffee. Why? Well, I don't get it.

Anthony hasn't had one in nine months.

And I am sorry. I feel very badly for

you because espresso is the the key to

my mornings. Todd knows this when we're

out shooting and we uh you know we're

trying to get filming for the cars and I

haven't had my coffee yet. Paul is

worthless until the answer is I mean

this is the reason I would like him to

do it and coffee. There's got to be a

breakfast stop but it's going to be it's

going to be a problem. So yeah, it's

it's been really tough. Although, I will

admit, I didn't start really getting

into espresso and good coffee until I

was in my 30s, if you can believe it. I

really didn't discover espresso and how

good Italian coffee really is. But then

I did and now I'm here. So, we're good.

It's all happened for sure. Uh, Gon Gon

Gonachi on uh on Instagram that is. He

says, "Am I still getting evil Todd

comments about my goatee?" Here's here's

the weirdest thing, and I don't

understand this. I mean, we live in a

culture where you be you. And yet, in

the entire nearly 20 years we've done

this show, I have gotten consistent

comments about my hair or my facial

hair. And why anyone cares is utterly

beyond me. People are getting somewhat

used to it. But the reality is, look, on

both of these realities, if my wife

didn't like it, neither of these things

would be this way. So, she wins. So,

that's the really the core of that

reality. I think it was last year when

you started sporting the goatee. Yeah.

Yeah. And I it took me the comments in

YouTube to realize that you had grown

the goatee because because I you knew me

forever like that. Yeah. Yeah. I just

didn't even notice. Oh, that's right. I

guess whatever thing. So, that's that's

good. Uh let's see. Harvey M on

Facebook. His son is a high school

senior looking to study and work in

industrial design. That is really cool

and exciting. What advice would I give

him? There are many colleges. I'm not

quite sure where in the country you're

located, but there's many colleges

around the nation that offer an initial

program for either high school seniors

or people who have not gotten accepted

yet. I went to Art Center, College of

Design, and they've got a great Art

Center at night program, which I did go

through. It was fantastic. And it's

usually instructed by a lot of the

daytime program instructors, the

teachers, and they'll do they'll help

you prep your portfolio in advance for

getting into the school, for getting

admissions, and it tailors your

portfolio.

One of the things that really inspired

me when I first visited Art Center was a

story from one of one of the guidance

counselors that told me a transportation

design student was not well off and they

bought crayons and markers and pencils

and tore the tops off pizza boxes and

sketched their portfolio on the inside

unused portion of pizza boxes and

submitted that. And you know what the

the guidance counselors were impressed

because it was different materials but

using what you got which is what

industrial design is all about. Teaching

you to use found materials but also

understanding the difference between art

and design. You've heard me talk about

it a lot. Design is a thousand sketches

that you sell for a dollar each. A piece

of art is something one time you do one

time and then you sell it for a thousand

bucks. But design is all about

understanding manufacturing and then

being able to put it out there in a

visual form that everybody on the planet

can understand and that can be made.

When those come together, you have

sketched and designed a product that can

be made for sale. And it's all about

creativity in getting there and and

understanding those two. So, like I

said, a lot of schools have various

programs to help you guide your son's

portfolio into the entrance and

definitely visit uh a few different

schools. There's a lot of good ones out

there and really also figure out what

direction you want to go because now

there's entertainment design, of course,

product design, transportation design,

cars are just big expensive products,

clothes, eyewear, furniture, our

computers, eyewear, you know, it doesn't

matter what it is. But I really

encourage your son and uh send me an

email if you have more questions. Ted

Logan, I'm going to answer your question

real quick. You said you have to go. And

the answer is nothing at all. Actually,

lawyers is the answer. Here's your

question. You said, "What's the

difference between a cinematographer and

a director of

photography?" Lawyers and credit

arguments. Sometimes a director,

seriously, sometimes a director, they're

they're it's the same job. It's the

exact same job. Sometimes the director

of photography is the cinematographer

and vice versa. And literally some

directors will argue that they don't

want the word director used anywhere

else above the line. They are the only

director. So they will not allow

director of photography to be used

because I am the film director. Other

directors of photography want to be

referred to as cinematographers because

they fought to be in the cinematography

union and they would prefer that term.

It entirely comes down to legal

realities and how do you want your

credit listed? I'll go you one further.

Robert Dairo.

He has in his contract a half space

between D and Nero. Now, have you ever

gotten on a keyboard and figured out how

to actually create a half space? There

is no half space key, but when you are

creating a credit, Robert Dairo has a

half space between D and Nero. Not a

full space, like two different words. A

half space. I had no idea. So, it's more

than the letters would be, but it's less

than a full space. So, what I'm saying

is you would not believe the amount of

credit stuff that goes on. So, direct

photography, cinematographer, same

person, different credit. We've got a

cool super chat going on here, too.

Jorge M asks, "When we race each other

on mountain bikes or on skis, are our

styles similarly different to racing

each other in other things?" I know

you're not going to say cars, but you

know what? Todd is a very much a big

mountain and in the trees kind of a

skier kind of person. And you know, not

not slow, not fast, but kind of medium

speed through I through the trees, you

know, thigh deep, knee deep in in uh in

snow. I've had my experience with trees

and I kind of like to stick to more of

the bumps, but I also like using all the

runs. But of course, if the runs are

full of fresh powder, that makes it all

the better. But I do like uh really

using all the runs. But what I usually

do is stick to the edges of the runs and

that's where all the snow has been

pushed off so that the best powder is

always on the edges kind of next to the

trees. And then mountain bikes, yeah,

Todd can uphill. He's a powerful biker

and he can leave people going uphill.

It's almost like he's riding a motorized

bike. I take it easy going down though.

It's like you guys go, I'll get at the

back cuz I I'm okay going. So, we just

we have different specialties. I kind of

like some speed going downhill and uh

you know, put it on full soft suspension

and get after it. But yeah, it's really,

you know, we're never really racing, but

we defin our strengths and weaknesses

very much uh are apparent on in both

sports. So, thanks for the question. I

love the writing questions. Thomas G22

had one earlier on Instagram. I'm going

to answer that. I'll come back to others

later, but he said, "Would I recommend

writing a book? Any thoughts on writing

a sequel or a new book entirely?" Uh,

Thomas, um, here's the thing. Unless you

are a person who is striving to be a

writer for a living, then I'm going to

say yes, write a book, but only if you

do not care where it goes. You're

writing it for the purpose of saying you

did and getting it done. And you have to

release. This is very hard. You have to

release yourself from the results

because that will steal all of the

motivation to do it. It will also steal

a lot of the joy of doing it. And then

as far as SQL or new book entirely, I'm

I'm going to I'm going to read into your

question because I'm not sure I'm right.

Don't write on somebody else's IP. If

somebody else has an idea, you're like,

"Oh, you know what I should do? I should

write a Star Wars thing." Don't do that.

Try to create your own thing. Now, I

know there's a lot of fanfiction that

goes on. If you're playing around,

fanfiction is a thing. But there's only

one exception I can really think of, and

that is I hate to bring this up, but

anyway, Fifty Shades of Gray started as

like Twilight fanfiction, and then it

became a phenomenon in its own right,

okay? But it started as Twilight

fanfiction. Generally, the chances of

you writing in someone else's universe

and having the chance of that ever

becoming something, you have created

another barrier for yourself. So, I

would say create a new thing that is

you. Having said that, there's layers of

this. The common way to make money as a

writer now is you have one book with one

character that hits and then that's the

book and character you're going to write

for the rest of your writing life. Lee

Child that writes the Reacher books. Uh

Tom Clancy that wrote the the uh Jack

Ryan books. Pick your Well, there's a

Housemade series going on right now.

Once you have a hit, the entire book

world, your agent, everybody just says,

"Well, you just get to write that the

rest of your life because you already

have an audience built in. and so hard

to find an audience. I am the opposite

of that. I just want to write something

completely different than the last thing

I wrote. I I'm limiting myself. I admit

that I am that way. But you have to if

you hit have a hit, you have to keep

writing that character and keep the hits

coming. Our friend Richard is talking

about a time machine.

And the question is that we get one use

of this time machine to go back to any

time or event in the past 100 years. And

only for 24 hours you can observe but

not change the events outcome. Oof.

Where and when do you go? O, as soon as

I pick something, I know something. I'm

think going to think of something

better. Sure. Yeah, I'm going to have to

come back to that one. That's a good

one. Um cuz I'm thinking about various

races, historic races. Of course, it

comes back to cars, but I guess uh but

observe, but then you would know things

like the JFK assassination. Yeah, you

would know. you you can observe, you

can't tell anybody, you can't change it,

but then from your observation point,

you would know more than maybe somebody

else at that particular event and then

you can't do anything about it. Can you

talk to other people about it? Can you

come back here and say, well, I know

what the JFK files say or something. I'm

going to say moonlanding

because I I think what a what a pivotal

worldwide event because if you go much

further back than that, we have trouble

making events that are worldwide. And

the other problem is that's that's a

time period in which literally it was

one of those things where the whole

world stopped and watched this thing.

And that is so foreign to us now. We

don't even all stop and watch the same

thing as a country, let alone a world.

The moon landing. What a pivotal thing.

I I I that's the first one I can answer

with, but there may be others. 86 says,

"Hello from Australia. Thank you very

much for tuning in, for watching. We

really appreciate it. That is awesome."

Uh I'm gonna have to keep thinking about

that landing. You're gonna come back.

You're gonna come back to that. I know

you are. Austin, you're ask asking other

uh writing questions. You're asking

about the audio version of Paper Father.

It was supposed to be done this year and

then we bought a company. That's what

happened there. So, it has not it is not

done. I I look, I'll tell you. Look, I

will publicly call my shot right now.

Okay. I am almost done with the audio

recording, which means that the editing

is next. I am I'm like 80% done with the

audio recording. I'm getting close.

That's good. So, I'm I'm proud of that.

It's been a fight, but then the editing

of it comes next to then do the release.

So, what I am intending now, since I'm

not going to make Christmas, I'm

shooting for Father's Day 2025 as a

release for that. I will keep you

informed. I am working on it. I'm

working on the novel behind this one. I

have the idea for the one past that. I

mean, seriously, I just need to sit and

write, which I have plenty of time to

do, so they're happening really quickly,

but I'll get there. Yeah. Let's talk

about watches. Jason Lynn has a question

for me. Am I interested in Japanese

watches? Yes, I am. Specifically,

Japanese movements. And I like that move

Todd just tuned out. Can you tell? I'm

having water zone out. I like watches

that do spec movements in them because

they are very accurate and reliable. But

of course, Swiss movements are the gold

standard. They're the Swiss standard.

But you know what I'm really interested

in is the Grand Seiko. I like Seikko

watches, but the Grand Seiko is really

for a different level. I mean, they're

they are expensive, but Grand Seiko,

when you see one of those, that is a

it's a conversation piece that really is

a different level of being into watches

and movements and the construction. It

so fascinating to me because you're you

have a mechanical device measuring the

minutes and seconds of your life. That

just it still blows me away. So, for an

awesome movement, yeah, Grand Seiko

watches are really cool. Look those up.

Uh there's a question here. Um, Derek

Miller is asking, "Who's our favorite

rapper?" And I am quickly out of my

depth here, but I will give you two.

Okay, one is Young MC. I just that

that's old school stuff, right, from the

90s. But I liked almost everything he

did. Okay, that is that is super, you

know, easygoing rap by by modern

standards. But I really like Young MC.

And then, you know what? I actually like

Eminem a lot. I like Eminem because he

has a tendency to do something I don't

see a lot otherwise and that is he

breaks words by syllables to find

rhymes.

So he will cut he'll cut a word in half

at a syllable because he can rhyme it to

the end of the next line that is the end

of a word. And he's also super fast. So

I find I find his I know this sounds

weird. His sentence structure to be

fascinating. And I like a lot of his

songs. So I'm going to go with those

two. I was going to guess Skilo.

We're all thinking that right now

anyway.

Oh yeah, we've had fun with that for

sure. I'm going way back and I'm going

to say Run DMC because I grew up with

Run DMC and it's not that they were the

best rappers ever. Ever it was that they

were so pioneering and I love that about

those guys but of course Ice Tea, Tone

Lo, Too Short, Gucci Crew, Two Life

Crew, that era. That's very funny. That

whole era that was my whole Yeah, that's

very funny. Listen to everything. But

Young MC is really good. I I thought he

was really good and he was fast, too.

Ice Tea for me, like the original OG

before he decided to be an actor. Yeah,

I get it. That's very funny. Very funny.

Ted's asking who does the drone work.

Uh, a little bit of everybody. Um, I

think I of the three of us, Chance and

Paul and I, I probably do the majority,

even though Paul seconds that quickly

after. But on our recent Sierra trip, we

had Jordan Schiffer with us, and

Jordan's an awesome drone pilot. That

allowed Paul and I to both be in the car

the whole time. Chance was shooting all

the on the ground stuff. Jordan was

doing all the drone whenever we were

stopped. And that's some great drone

work. He's a heck of a pilot. So that's

who does it most the time, but it is I

mean frankly we're all hands on deck all

the time. So it's a little bit of

everybody. Ray Lee's got a question for

us saying a lot of people work at jobs

because they are good at it but they are

not passionate about it. Have you met

anyone like that as an industrial

designer or a film editor?

I

have. And as we've talked about

industrial design, it is the design of

everyday objects. It can be as amazing

as the interior of a custom jet or a

yacht or as mundane as a toothbrush or

any product in between. But as an

industrial designer, your job is to

design the product for your client to

pull the most dollars out of that

category to beat all the other products

in that category. But there's so many

times that people get bogged down in

what they're doing because it they lose

sight of that because just another

electronic product. How is that going to

change the world? How is that going to

change my life? I've got a number of

different iterations that any one of

them would sell fine because of the

name. It used to be Blackberry. All the

Blackberries would sell just fine. An

iPhone, it's minimal industrial design.

And it's now more about the UX design

than than uh industrial design

necessarily. But there's plenty of

designers who get bogged down,

especially in the car industry. I know

this is not the car podcast, but if

you're talking about the door card for 3

months or a trim piece, and you you lose

sight of the overall vision about what

that product is is designed to do.

That's why I do like architecture so

much, and because interactive spaces

change people's thinking. It kind of

gets you out of your your funk, your

your daily life, how you view things and

architects that create spaces or you

know products certainly it can it can

have that effect. There's been so many

standout furniture designers that have

created products and it's so limited

edition Ross Loveroveve and so so many

others. There's you know a lot of those

named industrial designers and they're

creating individual products. some want

to do products that are in mass. Uh Eve

Behar did that for a long time. I I

heard a interesting thing about Eve

Behar. He was an art center graduate and

when he was in eighth term, he hired a

marketing firm before he even graduated

to start marketing him as a designer

before he had done any actual projects

for clients. Wow. That's that's this was

through the grapevine. I cannot verify

that, but I know there's some truth to

it. But then he was suddenly a name

designer and any big project that he had

his name attached to, well, it wasn't

that the design was so amazing. It was

he had the vision and he's executing. So

that's what happens to a lot of big time

artists. They're not the ones actually

producing the art. They are giving Frank

Gary. They're giving the crumple

crumpled up paper for the next museum of

some sort somewhere on the planet. And

you know, he has his team execute. So

you set the vision and then that helps

keep things fresh. But of course going

to companies and saying, "Hey, you know,

I want to do this product for you. I

know I can change your sales. You know,

we can, you know, do something and

change the perception of your company."

That's what keeps designers fresh. Uh

Dak has got a super chat. Thank you so

much for that. He said he's going to

write in with a car debate soon. We hope

that you do. But your question is, uh,

favorite or sever several

family-friendly podcasts? Honestly, I

don't listen to that many. Uh, I listen

to car ones, but I I listen to a couple

of ones that cover Hollywood, and

they're family friendly, but you got to

want to cover Hollywood. So, that's the

that's the question mark there. There is

a funny one uh about Hollywood called

Martini Shot. They're only about 10

minutes long, and it's a former writer

of Cheers. He started his career as a

writer on Cheers in his 20s and now he's

in his 60s and he's written all kind

he's run all kinds of TV shows. So, he's

had all kinds of writing experiences.

It's familyfriendly. It's always

self-deprecating and they're only about

10 minutes long. So, that's an easily

accessible Hollywood one. I listen to

other ones that are more intense in the

business, so that's not really a thing.

Uh, there is a comedian named Justin

Nickerson and I just discovered he has a

podcast called Don't Make Me Come Back

There. And I candidly find it a bit hit

or miss, but it's he and his wife and

they're family friendly and that can be

fun if that's your thing. There are a

lot of comedy podcasts, but of course

they vary in their family friendliness.

I don't listen to a ton, so I can't help

you a lot, but I appreciate you asking.

Oh, good questions on here. Yeah,

there's tons. I'm trying to make sure

that I don't miss anything on here. Oh,

we will. But anyway, if we do, please uh

please let us know. Let's see. Anthony G

is all in for the payto-play attitude,

but despises paying for parking to park

in front of a restaurant the other day

and street parking was $43 for four

hours. Thankfully, weren't paid. Yeah,

pay-to-play attitude. That's uh that's

all of us driving fast and uh maybe

getting pulled over. Jorge is calling me

out and saying, "Why would you not want

to ride on other people's intellectual

property? Isn't that the way money gets

made?" Jorge, let me switch my my answer

around. You want to get hired to write

on somebody else's intellectual

property. You want to get hired to write

Indiana Jones and Star Wars and Marvel.

You want to get hired for that. But if

the question is, I'm writing a novel and

it's yours, you don't want to write

somebody else's property because if it

becomes a hit, they're going to come

looking to you for why you don't have

the rights to have it. But getting hired

to write on somebody else's thing,

that's where the money is and you got

hired and it's great. Bento asks, "Our

favorite non-car experience has resulted

from HOD ownership. It's certainly

meeting people. I have really decided

this is a people business that just it

happens to use cars but it's a people

business and I think back over the

course of the year and the people that

we have met that we would have otherwise

never come in contact with has been

amazing and where that leads

conversations and connections and

relationships that was definitely a

really great side benefit. I mean, I I

kind of knew that we'd meet people, but

the relationships and like I said, just

amazing, cool people and uh the

like-mindedness. So, that was pretty

awesome. There are so many questions.

I'm scrolling back and forth here, but

it's such good stuff. Uh favorite

national park to visit from Isaiah

Smith. Did you answer that already? I

did not. No, no, go for it. Favorite

national park is Arches isn't a national

park. Yeah, it is. State, right? No,

it's a national park. That's a national.

Yeah, Arches is my Arches is up there.

That's really good. Zion's way up there.

Zion's good. Yeah. Uh, you're going to

list all the ones in Utah, aren't you?

All the ones in Utah. Uh, uh, you know

what?

Um, Teton is amazing and Glacier is

fantastic. That's good. Yeah, those are

both really good. Let's

see. Andrew M hasn't hit a live podcast

since episode 500. Andrew, thank you for

jumping back on. Really appreciate it.

Thank you. Uh Colin Cutler is asking

behind the scenes what gears, software,

camera tech has transformed the way you

guys film now versus back in the day.

Colin, not cars. It is you. Seriously,

it has completely changed. I I'll go

this far. When we started this show, all

of the outside the car stuff was shot on

a camera that had to go on our shoulder

that we had to rent for hundreds of

dollars a day because it was a big

shouldermounted camera and getting the

data off the camera and actually dealing

with it was a pain. There were no GoPro.

I mean, there was like a GoPro 1, which

was like a potato camera that was just

all fuzz, so you couldn't use that. So,

we had a camera with a small mini DV

tape in it mounted in the car to get our

on our in-car stuff. Uh, that was what

we used and it was all pretty marginal.

And then we went to a lot of very heavy

support gear, big jibs, big tripods

because the gear was all big. The

coolest thing that's happened over the

course of the show, and Paul was a real

pioneer in helping me see this, is that

the quality that we could shoot on, we

could go with smaller and smaller gear,

which was lighter and easier to carry

and easier to travel with. And the end

result, YouTube end result looked pretty

similar in quality. Now, I'm a geek and

I want to have the camera with the best

sensor and the best lenses, but

ultimately the way most people are

watching it, it kind of doesn't matter,

especially when people are just shooting

it now with their phone. So, the fact is

we use everything from iPhones to GoPros

to uh DJI stuff to whatever to big

cameras with nice lenses. We use it all.

But even our big camera with nice lenses

is essentially a mirrorless that weighs

2, three pounds. We used to have a DSLR

that weighed four or five. Even the

mirrorless is half of that weight.

Inside Ali, the first 911, the 67

911 DSLR mounted. Yeah. Yeah. The very

first one. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. It was

mounted. This huge DSLR was in our face.

It was with with a big old It was a It

was a 5D. It was an old Canon 5D with a

big old super wide lens on it. It's It's

amazing how much it's all gotten

lighter. And that's the thing I like

about it the most. We have a lot of

drinks questions. Anthony G asks if

single malt is worth it. What's better,

a good blend or a cheap single malt? I'd

go with a good blend rather than a cheap

single malt because if you're going to

do a single malt, get a a really good

expensive single malt. Favorite craft

beer from a Utah brewery. Neither of us

are beer drinkers. I work for Budweiser

and I just decided, I know that's not

the beer standard, but I have tried

IPAs. I wasn't a he of for a while, but

I just decided whiskey wine is for me.

And let's see. SMG

MP7A1 says, "I am a whiskey man." You're

right. Are there any cocktails that I

gravitate to? Whiskey or otherwise?

Definitely gin and tonic with Hendrick's

gin. I like that in the summer. Nice

refreshing drink with a slice of lime.

And Anthony G, you're right. I am uh I

like oldfashions. That's uh that's nice.

I'm trying to cover the the drinks. I

love it. I love it. And Derek Miller has

a question for you. What is Todd? What

is the best percent of cocoa in

chocolate?

Oh, for a non-alcoholic drink. Oh, come

on. I Let's just Let's just I just have

soda or water. I'm not a I'm not a I

don't get fancy. I rarely even have hot

chocolate. But anyway, Edgar, I just

wanted to acknowledge your comment here.

Thank you, man. You said you you think

we deserve so much more traffic than we

get. Every hour every video shows hours

of work. You're right. Every video is

hours and hours of work. Uh I'm trying

consistently to make it more efficient,

but thank you for acknowledging that. I

really appreciate it. Tell a friend

about our especially our road trip films

because we love those so much. People

seem to like them. So, thank you for

that. I like this live watch discussion.

Game Bear is asking if I've heard of

Studio Underdog and wasn't my take. Yes,

my location is set to United States.

What is Studio

Underdog? I'm just seeing the movement.

Okay. Okay. Oh, classic styling. Some

odd color choices, but

I I think they're pretty cool. See, I

like the classic timeless look, more of

a a vintage kind of a look. But the

modern watches that are out there, I I

do appreciate a lot of them. I had

another question about watches and I

forget who asked. My apologies. It was

my favorite guilty pleasure watch. I'm

gonna find that. Andrew's got that

question for you. Go for it, Andrew.

Thank you. It is Ublo. H U B L O T T U O

Ublo. And they're apparently really just

designed for footballers in England

apparently because if you're a wealthy

footballer, you just buy an Oblau or a

Brightling or a Panerai or all the

brands that we've all heard of. But the

Ubolos are really cool with the Unico

movement and the the the ceramics that

they're doing is is really leading edge

from a material standpoint. I got into

materials. I got into materials when I

was doing furniture design because

that's what differentiates materials and

what can you do with cool carbon fiber

or different stainless materials. And so

that's what it is in watches. And uh

yeah, I like this uh the studio underdog

watches. This looking pretty cool here.

Looking Devin Bane is asking if this is

it. This is the end. What's our last

meal? Oh. Uh, oh my gosh. In a in a

vague sense, I'll go really good

barbecue. In a specific sense, I will go

there's a really good steak dish from a

place we know down here recent uh close

by called Midway Mer Mer Mer Mer Mer Mer

Mer Mer Mer Merkantile. I'm going to

call them out. Their steak with the

vegetable stack beside it is it's superb

every time I have it. Yeah, there here's

the thing. We're in Park City where

there's a lot of really nice steak

restaurants and this restaurant just

kills them all in my opinion. But there

are a few uh there's a barbecue place

down there in the same area that is

actually run out of a food truck. It's

the best barbecue I've ever had in my

life. I'd happily have that. It's like

last meal food truck. Let's do that.

That's fine. Done. Texan speaking. This

is me. There it is. I've got to have a

nice flaky piece of white fish. Usually

halibet. I love halibet with with the

curry sauce or the panko crumbs. A

really nice salvin blanc with jasmine

rice. Ah, yeah, that's really good. Or

or probably Italian food, you know, like

all all the great Italian foods,

carbonara and lasagna and all the

great great Italian stuff. Yeah. Andrew

M is asking favorite guilty pleasure

book or movie. Um I

mean, you know, I've said this before

and that is I have a soft spot because

it struck me so much as a kid for the

very terrible movie Condor Man. It's a

terrible movie, but I have a soft spot

for that. I don't watch it like

regularly by any means, but I I do

really like that. And then you know

what? I just showed my son one last

night that is not necessarily a great

movie, but it's fun every time I watch

it. We just watched True Lies. So good.

You've never seen True Lies. It is a lot

of fun and I definitely recommend it.

That's one I'd watch anytime. Did you

tell me they were doing a sequel to

that? Uh they aren't officially. They

they've That would be one to do a sequel

to. Well, here's the thing. Netflix did

a show called Fubar, which is kind of a

sequel, but not really. It gets really

talk about IP. It gets really close to

the idea of as if like 20 years have

passed, but Arnold Arnold's in it.

Arnold's in it. It's just the the

characters have been a little bit

tweaked. But anyway, okay, let's see.

Oh man, good questions here. Gee, I like

how everybody's talking about drinks now

because of course you're probably having

drinks while you're watching us. This is

awesome. or Ham says, "Best bourbon

summer drink is a paper plane unless he

changes his mind." I hope you're having

one right now. That's pretty awesome.

Uh, Mandy's asking, "Favorite Simpsons

character." That's hard. That's hard.

That's really hard, but it's fun.

Um, I I you know what? I loved Apoo.

Apoo was amazing. Go away, please come

back is one of my all-time favorite

Simpsons lines. Uh, Apoo was a great Now

granted, he's he's not okay anymore, so

they don't have him out anymore. So,

he's he was an all-time favorite. Um,

Lisa, for all of her observations,

Lisa's amazing. And then you got to say

Ralph. I'm special. I mean, that's just

he's he's just the kid in the corner

that just throws out something that

nobody's expecting. So, I thoroughly

enjoy that as well. Anthony G tracks

Daily Crush. Whiskey, coffee, or water?

That is easy. See, whiskey and coffee

both use water. So, I can get my water

intake drinking those. So, we'll crush

water. We don't need water, right? I

mean, well, we need it. Yeah, I'll have

some more water. Coffee is the daily and

whiskey is track the know the special

use and water. Yeah, we don't need

water. We got whiskey and coffee. Uh

let's see. What is a popular hobby that

you just think is

boring? Look, the lowhanging fruit that

we've talked about before is we drive

instead of playing golf. And golf is

just a thing. And then I'm sure it's a

thing where you are, but it is a plague

in Park City. Everybody's talking pickle

ball. Now, I will admit I've never

played it, but I I don't it it it this

sounds weird. It feels

cultish. You've got the people that have

never played pickle ball and are fine

with it, and the people that have played

once and now they don't want to do

anything else. And I got to be honest,

that kind of keeps me away. I'm kind of

like, that's a little bit scary. I I

don't know. Everybody that plays pickle

ball does nothing else ever. I'm sure

it's very fun, but that's uh it feels a

little like a cult to me. Yeah.

Oh, man. Anthony G. Is Die Hard a

Christmas movie? Of course. Yes, of

course it is. Let's see. Uh Richard is

asking, "What is the best trait of mine

and my wife Kate that we're trying to

instill in our son Bodie?" Oh gosh, many

uh many of them.

Um I would say patience and a tendency

to not overreact. That would be I mean

because my wife and I are constantly

learning both of those things, but but

just not a lack of instant reaction. and

he's 14 going on 15. I mean, he's just a

ball of instant reaction. You know what

I mean? He's just this this constant

frenetic reality, but I think that would

be something that I hope over time he he

is able to kind of take the world in and

then figure out a response. Crash Test

asks for our favorite onthe-go snack

when traveling. Fig Newton's or

Strawberry Newton. I love Fig Newton's.

They're my favorite. And what languages

do we comprehend or speak? question from

Purdue. I actually took the Rosetta

Stone course about 10 years ago because

I was going to Italy and I really got

into it and I started to speak it kind

of okay. It was like a airplane

conversation because I met an Italian

woman on the airplane and she and I

started to speak a little bit and she

was encouraging me and I was trying to

pronounce and I was consulting my

dictionary and it was really fun. I I

felt

like, you know, I I kind of was getting

there and then of course I didn't

practice it. I didn't keep up with it.

But Italian is something that I I really

like. German is uh is tough. Every time

we go we find new passwords

every time. Things that we have three

words for is one massive word for them.

Like lost luggage is one of I got to get

the photo. Lost luggage is my favorite

thing ever. It's baggage claims. Oh my

gosh. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Really

crazy. Very very good. says the quality.

He appreciates the quality of our sound

imaging. Is it accidental? Honestly,

very, very good. There are problems with

every single thing we post that I would

like to fix. Having said that, nothing

in what we post is accidental.

Yes. Because we work very hard on it.

What what we actually do is we actually

do pan the sound. If the car is coming

in on the right side of the screen and

leaves left, I want that sound to go out

to the left and vice versa. That is

something that we do in post. We do

chase chase it. I I am in no way

claiming that our stuff goes out

perfect. Every single time something of

ours goes out, I could tell you 10 or 15

things that in a perfect world I would

fix them, but I also try to focus on the

things we did right. Uh but it's a lot

of effort goes in. Thank you for

recognizing that. You said you typically

put on headphones because you appreciate

our sound quality. Thank you. Because

much work goes into it. Chance helps me

uh mix it and it's a lot of work. He can

tell you, but we work hard at it. Daniel

N has been getting into Scandinavian

home and interior design. and any

recommendations of sites or books or

inspiration to learn more or buy

products that are not

IKEA. Yes, I have suggestions. So, you

can type into any browser Scandi Rustic

books. Scandi Rustic is kind of a thing.

Actually, my sister is really into

Scandi Rustic and uh she and her husband

have really done a great job with their

home. But two book companies, publishers

actually, that should have some books. I

I can't verify how many they have, but

great titles from one publisher called

Aselene. A ss o l i

neolene.com. And also Tashen. Great for

furniture. T- sen. Tashion the

publisher. They're they've got some

amazing books on uh on furniture

collections and interior design. Uh go

browse both of those websites and I I

think you'll be inspired.

Andrew M said, "Is there a European

country country you haven't hit that you

want to do an international roadtrip

film?" Andrew, in my perfect world, we

do the definitive European roadtrip

film. We start at one end of Europe and

we do the whole thing. It's probably not

going to happen. But having said that, I

really want to drive through Spain. I

very much want to drive through Italy. I

really want to do Switzerland. Those top

three sure those are the top three in my

life that I'd love to drive through.

We'll see which ones we get to drive

through and we get to do a film about.

Of course. You know, I would love to do

it and do a cool film. So, we'll see if

we can. Let's see. Oh, Richard's got

another question about design. Okay.

Paul, you get to spend one week learning

from an artist or designer I admire and

respect. Who is it and what would I want

to learn from him?

Wow. Uh, Richard, with the very deep

questions, I haven't even answered your

other question about uh the event where

to uh time machine one. Yeah, time

machine event. All right. I'm gonna have

to think about that one. Jason Lynn has

a question about Sundance. If you if he

when you instruct you go go go go. I I

I'll jump in. Jason Lynn says he lives

in Salt Lake City. He's asking if we've

ever been to the Sundance Film Festival.

Is it worth it for the average movie

lover who lives in in Salt Lake City. If

you live here, absolutely. Please come

up. I hope that it stays in Park City.

We'll see if it does. But here's the

thing about Sundance. It's it's over the

top and absurd. It's it's very expensive

to go and all this kind of stuff. But

here is the special thing about

Sundance. When you go to Sundance and

you sit in the crowd and you sit there

in a movie that's about to start, you

will have an exper and this happens at

some other film festivals, but I've

never experienced it more than Sundance.

You're sitting there and the vibe of the

audience is they so want this movie to

be great. Not okay. Not I'm just here

because I had nothing else to do. They

want it to be great.

And that is a special moment. Going to

I'm I'm a geeky anyway, but going to a

movie with a full theater is a fun

experience anyway. It's one of the last

communal experiences that we have. And I

find that really cool. Having said that,

you go to the average movie theater with

the average crowd and somebody's on

their phone and that baby's crying and

this person doesn't really want to be

here and that person's having a

conversation with their spouse like

they're at home. Okay, that doesn't

happen at Sundance. Everybody's quiet,

attentive, listening, and they so want

this movie to be great. Some of them

aren't, but that moviegoing experience

is very special. So, if you find one

that interests you, like the write up,

you're like, "That sounds really cool."

Go to that movie. Even if it's just one,

I think you'll enjoy it. Uh, favorite

Thanksgiving food, mashed potatoes, of

course. All right. Uh, let's see. I've

got Richard your answer for designer.

It's two people. Patricia Urola, uh, I

think that's how you pronounce her last

name. She is a starch architect but she

has done a lot of furniture design and

the second person is Jasper Morrison.

They both have their own websites and

they've done a lot of different kinds of

products and furniture. They're very

wide ranging and very diverse in the

kinds of products they have designed

from spaces to products, interiors.

They've they've kind of touched it all

and how you move through a space and

then the objects that you interact with

in that space. And that is really

interesting to me to get more of that uh

that interaction. Of course, car design.

I mean, I won't say car design because

this is a uh a non-car podcast, but uh

Geto I mean the master of course, you

know, I would love to go back in time

and sit over his shoulder and be

involved in the conversations uh about

that. And I'm trying to think Richard of

your event. Ah, it would it would

probably Moon Moonlanding's up there.

That's a really good one. I I just The

world coming together is a part of that

that intrigues me. It's just and

everybody just being so jaw-dropped that

humankind did that. It's beyond

countries. It's I I don't know. It's a

pivotal moment in my mind. Yes. And it's

not a disaster. It's not something that

Yes. You can't do anything about it. You

know what I I don't necessarily want to

see a disaster more, but anyway. Yeah.

Colin Cutler is asking me my top movies

of 2024. They stand out either good or

bad. I'm going to go with three really

good ones that I've seen. Um, Dune 2 is

excellent. I'm a huge fan of Denu, the

the filmmaker. He's incredible

filmmaker. I really like Dune 2. Uh,

Wolverine Deadpool. Come on. That's just

that is the right ridiculous action

movie for our time. It spends so much

time winking at the audience. I think

we've all seen so many superhero movies

now that we kind of want to be in on the

joke. And Ryan Reynolds kills that role.

Hugh Jackman's Greatest Wolverine.

That's really fun. And then I recently

saw I wanted to see it and I just now

got the chance to and it was awesome.

The Wild Robot. If you haven't seen it,

it is good for kids. It is great for

adults. It's one of those animated

movies that plays on multiple levels and

it feels different than Disney Pixar in

a good way. It's not a perfect movie,

but it is a tearjerker phenomenal film.

So, Wild Robot as well.

There's so many. It's great stuff. I

love it. Everywhere.

This is really good. Tattoos or

piercings that everybody doesn't know

about? No. I, you know, I thought about

getting a tattoo after my mom passed,

but I just realized that she her

memories were tattooed on my heart and I

didn't need a physical tattoo. So, she

was always in my heart. So, Daniel asks

if I have any plans for another book. I

mentioned this at the top of the

podcast. Uh, so I did this one. Some

people have wanted a sequel to this, but

as I mentioned before, I I could tell

you where the story goes. I could I've

got two other ideas beyond it, but I

want to write a different storyline, a

totally different world. So, I'm going

from here to a sci-fi novel and then I

have an idea beyond that that's nothing

like the sci-fi novel. So, I'm about 30%

into a sci-fi novel that's completely

different than Paper Father. So, that

will be the next one and then I'll tell

you about the one after that once I get

the current one finished. And there's

the whole audio book of that one. So,

you know, I got nothing but time. It's

going to be great. Yeah. Aaron G is

asking about this big print on the wall

behind us. Where can you get it? Aaron

G, send us an email. This is actually on

a a sheet of aluminum that is standing

off the wall. So, it's not uh it's not

paper. It's printed on aluminum. So,

it's all color fast. I've been told that

the print will last for 250 years. So,

it's going to be color fast for a long

time. Somebody's going to have it.

Great. Anthony Gddard, is Die Hard a

Christmas movie? Yes. I feel like we get

that every year. I answer that. Yes.

Yes, it is absolutely a Christmas movie.

There is no question. I I don't even

know why we're talking about it. Also,

Devin, who I know is a barbecue guy,

said, "Uh, what is my barbecue pre

preference and why are beef ribs

heresy?" I agree. I agree. Pork ribs for

the win. Absolutely. Yes.

Okay, let's see. Uh, oh my gosh. Other

motor vehicles we enjoy from Angel

Rivera. Other motor

vehicles. Uh, boats are kind of cool.

Planes are cooler.

I'm not a pilot. My dad is a pilot. He

was a pilot. Enjoyed going with him.

Uh yeah, I got a friend in town who is a

Surirus aircraft owner and he's been

offering to take me up and I'd really

like to go. We just haven't had time.

So, need to

go. Such good stuff. Favorite toy

growing up? I mean, Hot Wheels,

Matchbox.

Sure. Sure. Transformers. GI Joe. GI

Joe. Yep. For sure. Yep. What

else? My friend had the aircraft

carrier. LT Arnold had the aircraft

carrier that he got for Christmas. I had

the jet. I had the F-14 and I could swim

with it and push it underwater because

that was the closest I could get to it

flying. That's so cool. It was really

cool. Yeah, it was. He had the whole

Anyway, yeah. Carrier in his room. I was

so jealous.

See, have we thought about using

Kickstarter or physical copies of our

road trip films for more cinematic

pieces? The physical copies we did for a

while. As you can see, we did them for a

while. It's most of the software that

existed to allow you to make Blu-rays at

home has not been continued. So, that's

died. It's made it much harder to

actually author these like we authored

them ourselves. And the take rate for

people wanting physical media has

steadily decreased. So, it's really hard

to justify the effort and the cost to

get them made. I hate to say that

because I'm a guy that really, really

likes Blu-rays, but that is the problem.

Kickstarter. Uh we did Kickstarter years

and years and years ago. Did not go

well. We have Patreon and we greatly

appreciate those books and they're all

involved on our Discord. So, thank you

guys for that. That's the best way to

support us if you'd like to support us.

We don't do Kickstarter beyond that

because it just it hasn't worked for us.

So, it's not something we've done. But I

I love doing these big road trip films

and the more people you can encourage to

watch them, we would appreciate it. Uh

Daniel N talking about product design.

Yes, I worked for Kawasaki Motors in

Irvine, California, and it was all of

their products, including Watercraft.

And I did design work for the Kawasaki

Ultra 150, that late 90s to mid 2000s

Ultra 150 design. I worked a lot on

that. That definitely dominated my time.

And what was so crazy is this cool new

thing with a roll cage that was like a a

singleseat off-roader. It was an ATV

with a roll cage and then they decided

to do a tandem inline design. I worked a

lot on those and those have morphed into

all the Razors and Polaris off-roaders

that we see now. But it was the very

beginning of that that I I worked on not

it didn't go anywhere. They were just

sketches but you know the legal

department was trying to come to terms

with oh people are going to do crazier

things with these even more capable

vehicles off-road. And so then we go to

Moab, of course, we see them everywhere

and like I was there. I helped craft the

prototype for the originals, you know,

the Kawasaki version of that. And of

course, now they've got them all. Really

crazy to see. Rich Kraken, if we had the

chance, would we go to low Earth orbit,

the moon, or tomorrow? To Mars? Rich, I

am a space geek. I would totally do low

Earth orbit and possibly Mars. I would

go to the space station. Absolutely. I

don't want to be there half a year

because the spaceship broke. I don't

want to do that. I'd like to go up,

spend a day or two, come down. That

sounds about right to me. Maybe the

moon. Mars is right out. I That is

People keep talking Mars. Oh yeah, we're

going to move to Mars. No, we are not.

Okay, that is an environment you do not

want to be in. But I I am fascinated by

the moon. Uh, pardon me. Space is one of

those things I would love to say I did

and be done. like I'd like to do it once

because I think the experience because I

also think again you listen to all the

guys that were in the Apollo space

program and the way they speak about

being in space or astronauts that have

spent time in the space station it

shifts your perspective of being human

having a life breathing oxygen being on

this earth it is a total warp of

perspective and I think that would be

fantastic

I'm switching back to Instagram

questions see petrolhead 2003 asks if we

had to live in a state other than either

Utah or a state I've already visited as

part of Everyday Driver, which is most

of them, which one would it be? That's

really tough because we've gone through

almost all of the 48, the lower 48

states. I think I only have nine left on

my list of all 50 states, I think. Wow.

Have we gotten that close? I'm down to

like eight or nine. I mean, personally,

like all the states that I've ever been

to. Incredible. Good for you. hit

Hawaii, hit Alaska, of course,

uh, Colorado, maybe, but I'm definitely

a West Coast kind of a guy, Texas.

There's elements of Texas that really

intrigue me, like Bies. It's not Texas

that intrigues you. It's just Bies.

That's the thing. You just got to

embrace the fact Bies. I I get it. I

understand the Americas. We're okay with

it. Yeah. They have a lot of Texas

welcomes you. Yeah. Yeah. Texas could be

interesting, maybe. Yeah. I will see.

Oh. Uh, Devin, I appreciate your concern

about compression and streaming. I mean,

the thing that most people don't realize

when they're watching our films or any

others, the truth is if you have a an

HD, not 4K, a high definition, which is

half the resolution of 4K. I'm going to

go geeky for a second. Half the

resolution of 4K, you can. That's your

white noise. Uh, these Blu-rays that are

HD have better image quality than 4K

you're seeing streaming in most cases,

especially on YouTube. I would love to

have that kind of quality, but the truth

is the streaming platforms don't do it.

Vimeo is a little better than YouTube,

but how many people do I think it's

going to matter for? It's hard to make

that quantifiable. So, that's one of the

things we don't do. But, I I recognize

it. I'm aware. I just I kind of bite my

tongue and move on. H I'm going to have

to look up these watches. Freedom band,

thank you for sending. I knew that I

know the glass, but the Lang

one. Uh, meanwhile, you should talk

about your favorite plane. I should talk

about my favorite plane. From Daniel N

is asking, Todd, what is your favorite

plane? Uh, I mean, look, SR71's on the

list for sure. I love that one. That's

amazing. Concord is up there. Um, those

are two of my very favorites of all

time. P-51 Mustang has got to be on the

list. That plane's amazing. I love that

thing. So cool. But everybody has a P5.

Yeah, everyone's got a P. You should get

a P47. Yeah. So that's an inside joke.

Sorry. The one that nobody has. Yeah. We

met somebody once who said that like

very wealthy and they said that with a

straight face. So we were like everybody

has P5. Everybody got P51. So we bought

a P47 because there's only 11 of Yeah.

So anyway, so there's that. No, P-51s

are fantastic. They're so super

expensive, but they're really awesome.

Uh the Cirrus aircraft, if you have a

personal aircraft, are really really

cool. I'm a big fan of those as well in

personal stuff. But I think that's kind

of the high points. Uh, let's see. I'm

looking up glass shoot original. Andrew

is asking how to support what we do. The

best way to support us uh is to watch

our videos ASAP. Yes, watch them within

48 hours of them hitting a platform and

encourage friends you know that might

like them to watch them. Especially if

it's a roadtrip films, just say, "Hey,

to your buddy, I know you like Grand

Tour, Top Gear, whatever." I mean, let's

be honest, we're striving to be at that

level and I think we get somewhat close.

So, if you got friends that like that

and kind of wonder what's out there,

please encourage them to watch it. And

encourage them to Here's the thing.

Encourage them to sit and watch it. Not

put it on in the background and kind of

pay attention or scroll through things

like sit there like they're going to

watch a movie because I know this is not

the way we watch YouTube, but that is

the way we create our stuff. It's

intended for you to sit there with a

lovely beverage and watch and do nothing

but that for 20 minutes or a half hour

or an hour or whatever. So, if you have

the ability to do that, all of that

helps us and we appreciate it mightily.

Let's talk about watches that cost more

than $30,000 a watch. Must we we really

shouldang the Lang and Sun watches are

really I like those freedom van. Those

are pretty interesting, but I cannot

deny the panatic

glass. Ah, it really does come because

of their their they've both got superior

uh movements. Okay. I think it does come

down

to the cleanliness of design. I guess

I'm all about the Well, see, Lashoot is

good. They're very clean, but you know

what? My I my leanings are more towards

the the Langensson uh watches. I really

I think they appeal aesthetically to me

more, and I like that 1815 design. I

like uh like their style quite a lot.

Bang and son. Uh, Cars of Metal 77

called out the Bell X1, first plane to

break the sound barrier. That's a cool

plane. I totally 100% agree with that.

That gets us into the X-15 and a bunch

of other stuff that it was the a cutting

edge at that point. There was so many

crazy planes that were barely planes at

that point. So many cool things. Got

Hill Air Force Base here that, you know,

when stuff comes over the house. Yeah.

Yeah. If you hear it, it wasn't intended

for you.

If you're right, you'll never hear it

otherwise. Nope, not going to happen.

Because once they've gone by, it's just

it splits the sky open. It's just

incredible. So, it's cool. Uh we did get

to see a few years ago, I saw the F-35s

uh piloted by the female captain. She

she leads the squadron here. Amazing.

Those are crazy planes. And she led the

the uh the four planes that just real

slow right over Park City. And I could

see it. It was just super cool. Somehow

you merge an F-22 and a Harrier and you

come up with the F-35, which is a

ridiculous thing to try to build. Yeah.

Anyway, Chuck Jagger, toughest man ever.

Yes. Uhhuh. I agree with that. Um, let's

see what else do we have in here. Oh,

Richard, you're asking about podcast

2000, buddy. Buddy, can we get to 1,000

first? I I just I I thank you, man. But

my gosh, I mean, look, will we reach

2000 in another decade? I I can't for

the life of me say where we're going to

be podcast-wise in another decade. I

will say this. When we reach podcast

1000, and there's there's lots of

announcements coming up on that early in

next year. When we reach 10,00 we're

going to make some small tweaks to the

podcast. It will still be the card

debate. It will still mostly be about

cars, but we're going to make some

tweaks and we're excited about that. But

we we cannot believe we're at 950 at

all. It's absolutely astonishing to me.

I was having a conversation with

somebody recently. We were telling them

what we do. And because I feel like now,

much more so than when we started. I

feel like everybody has a podcast.

There's so many more podcasts than when

we started a decade ago. And I mentioned

in passing that we had a podcast and

they and they they had this whole

demeanor like Uhhuh. that's nice. Like

everyone does. And I mentioned we were

in the like reaching podcast episode 950

and their entire headsp space changed

like wait what? Yeah. It takes takes a

while to get Oh, you've been serious

about this? Yes. Yes, we have been.

Mandy Combmes asked for the best Chuck

Norris joke I've ever heard. I have two.

One's a meme. The first is the joke

Chuck Norris can cut a hot knife with

butter.

All right, good. Like it. The second one

shows Chuck in front of the great

Egyptian pyramids visiting the sand

castles he built as a kid.

Awesome. I love Chuck Norris. Oh,

favorite outdoor wildlife. I, you know,

we see them around here. I like elk a

lot, but moose are crazy. They are

massive and they and they have this

fantastic demeanor which is very I feel

like is very unique among wildlife. They

aren't aggressive, but they also don't

care.

They just have this it's almost like the

elephant mentality. You don't want to

mess with them. They're not naturally

aggressive, but you don't want to make

them angry because they will hurt you.

So, they just have this I'm eating here.

I'm going to stand here in the trail

where you would like to bike and I'm

going to eat and when I'm done, you can

pass. I just don't care. Yeah. Which is

kind of fascinating to come up against

because they're huge. My dad is watching

and he'll know this story. He and he and

I and my sister went on a really cool

uplose canoe trip with a guide and we

were in the canoe and watching black

bears on the

shore bring salmon out of the river and

tear into them. And we're 20 feet from

these Alaskan black bears. Of course.

Yes. in Alaska and watching them rip

into the fish. And we're just far enough

and we can get away if we need to if

they jump in and start to come after the

humans. But we it was also a fishing

trip and so we had the freshest salmon

because the guide brought a habachi. Oh

wow. And he grilled them right there and

so we were having fresh salmon and the

bears were having fresh salmon and

fresh salmon for everybody. I like it

was good. So crazy. It was cool. Uh Cars

of Metal says he's never seen me and

Hugo Weaving in the same room. I will

take that as a compliment. I will

absolutely take that as a compliment.

He's a phenomenal actor. I love his

voice work. Uh he's really great. He was

in He's in slow horses. I've been in

Slow Horses. That's a surprising show

that most people don't realize. My

sister got me into that. It's a really

good show and he's in the latest season

of Slow Horses. I was wondering like

that guy looks familiar. I've seen him

somewhere and yeah, crazy. Mr. Anderson

like if he had said that they have to

work that in there somehow. You would

think they would, but he's such a good

actor and he's been in Lord of the Rings

and making series is superb. Very good.

If you haven't seen that, that's

actually based on a We're back to

writing. It's based on a series of

unloved novels. This guy was a published

author that wrote a bunch of Slow Horses

novels. It's one of those things where I

say unloved. He's been successful as an

author and he's written a bunch of these

books, but they never really caught

fire. They had an audience, but they

never really caught fire because they're

the anti- James Bond books from a

British author. And now they have this

Apple series where you have to kind of

be concerned about Gary Oldman. I mean,

Gary Oldman played Commissioner Gordon.

Yes. You Well, here's what you need to

do. If you're going to watch Slow Horses

on Apple TV, you you want to see get a

picture of Gary Oldman from the

Christopher Nolan Batman movies and then

jump immediately to watch him in Slow

Horses and you'll think he's about to

die. He is so disheveled and overweight

and awful looking and he nails this

part. It is the exact anti-James Bond.

But this Yeah. TV series has made the

novels a whole other level of successful

and I love to hear that. So that's

really cool for also in the what was the

Bruce Willis movie? Leo Dallas

multipass. Oh yeah, of course. Fifth

Element. Fifth Element. Fifth Element is

an unsung movie that Well, of course

that's a long long time ago. Yeah. Mhm.

He had some crazy movies. He did. Yes.

Best coffee brand and blend. I'm

currently into Lovatza Super Crema. Get

it on Amazon.

Sure. It's a bunch of words I've never

heard strung together. I did discover

Lovatza because they have a coffee shop

inside the Palazzo in Vegas and there's

also Illy and I like Illy a lot, but

Lovatza is pretty darn good. I I I have

to have the medium roast because my

machine that I got in January only takes

medium roast and you can actually void

the warranty if you get too dark of a

roast because the oil from the beans

will clog up the grinder and void you

warranty. The ceramic bits in there

won't anyway. So, there's problems I've

never ever heard of which is amazing. I

have to be careful about the roast color

of my I bean blend. This entire

conversation is something I have never

worried about or heard of until right

now. So that's kind of amazing. All

right. Who knew? Mandy is asking if we

had to watch a show or film with a poor

director with great acting or something

with a great director but mediocre

acting, what would we pick? You know,

actually I think I think great

performances can overcome a bad director

in most cases. One of the rare

exceptions and but you'll see proof of

it is the Star Wars movies. George

Lucas, big idea guy, created a good

universe. Watch his stuff. He likes the

acting style of the 20s and 30s, which

feels really stilted and awful today.

So, watch the first Star Wars movie, the

original 1977 Star Wars movie. He's

clearly giving direction to everybody.

And Alec Guinness and Harrison Ford just

don't care. They do their own thing and

they do the best work in the film. Okay.

And you go you jump to when he did the

first movie of the uh the first movie of

the second trilogy, if you will. And you

have Euan McGregor, Natalie Portman, and

Liam Niss. Nobody's arguing that these

are bad actors and they do some of their

worst work ever because he's directing

them and trying to get them to act

stilted. And so when they step out on

their own, they do their best works. I

do think that really good acting can

elevate. You can have the best director

in the world, but if an actor gives a

line and it feels fake, there's little

coming back from that, unfortunately.

Anthony Zurg says, "Paul, is the

Bachelor about town. Which of my fleet

attracts more attention from the ladies?

I can't decide if it's my Rossignal skis

or my pivot

bike." I would like to think it's the

bike. You know, when you roll up and

you've, you know, done some cool jumps

and you're, you know, rocking it, right?

That's our That's our typical rock that

pivots. Sweet. You do have a very cool

bike. I will say that the pivot bike is

very very nice. See, I'm I'm hoping the

ladies would like my pivot bike. Notice

notice the pivot. Good lord. Thoughts on

Shark NATO? I think Shark NATO is a

perfect You could teach I could teach a

course on Shark NATO. Shark NATO is the

perfect example of why Hollywood is

stupid and why it's awesome. It is both.

The fact that there are sequels to Shark

NATO, this is what happens. You have a

stupid idea. You get some D-level actors

that used to be famous. It catches fire

for its absurdity. And then what do you

think? Not well that was lightning in a

bottle. We got a lot of money. That's

nice. No, we should do six more. It the

first one was bad. So how I mean how

they don't get better. Okay. When you do

this many sequels on a bad idea, it just

keeps getting worse. You know, I

actually know a producer who did a movie

called Sand

Sharks because they saw the success of

Shark NATO. That sounds bad. They did a

movie called Sand Sharks, which is

exactly what you think it is. Somehow

sharks are traveling through sand and

jumping up and killing PE. I I don't

understand it either, but that was at

least successful enough to make the plot

of the other guys. Mark Wahberg I just

Will Ferrell, they talk about that. Sand

Sharks. Mhm. What would be the syllabus

in The Fast and

Furious? Devin, you're killing it. I

love it. That would be an easy course to

teach. It would be a very easy course to

teach because you have the first movie

which is at at most a uh it's a it's a

cop entrapment movie. That's what it is

at best if you give it like its best

version. Just set in the world of cars.

So is the second one, but worse. The

third one is essentially just a cultural

appropriation movie. Let's show you why

drifting is cool because you don't even

have the original people in it. Then the

fourth one, somebody goes, "What if we

brought back the original cast and made

it a heist movie and now we're into like

Die Hard on Wheels." There's a fantastic

progression there. I could totally call

it that. I could retain Die Hard on

Wheels. I could teach that course.

Absolutely. Yep.

Gosh. Uh let's see. Trying not to miss

stuff. People are telling jokes on the

live streams. I love it. It's fantastic.

It's great stuff. Great. It's great

stuff. Um, so here's a question that

gets personal and I don't know uh if

you're going to be like, I thought so or

no, I don't think so. And it references

to a question I saw earlier. Um,

somebody said earlier and I think they

actually removed the question, but I did

see it. They said, Todd, I was watching

an old episode and wow, aging's been a

problem, hasn't it? Yes, it has. Yes,

this is what I'm working with. It wasn't

great to begin with. I had terrible skin

in college when I was supposed to be at

my best and it just hasn't progressed. I

am aging for both me and my wife. I have

said this for years. She is timeless and

I am aging for both of us. So, there's

that question. But you also asked, "How

old are we? It's never really been

discussed." We don't hide it, but it's

also not something we discuss a lot.

We're both 51, so that's e right now. I

can tell you right now, you're either

going, "Wow, they're 51." Or, "Oh,

that's not good for 51." Depending on

your take, that's the answer. AJ,

nothing but a number. Yep. It's all in

your head. It's Well, here's a question.

How old do we act? Well, but there's

your actual age and then there's

hopefully how old you act, which is But

here's the problem. I know plenty of

guys in their 60s that act like they're

18 or 20 and I'm like, "Stop it." That's

true. Stop it. Put the vape down. Drive

like that. Okay. I've met that guy. And

then you meet the other I was this

person. I was 17 and acted like I was

30. For better and for worse. That's

just how it's always been. Yeah.

Oh

man, Greg Evans, what authors inspire

me? I love Stephen King. I love Stephen

King because he keeps write with the

exception of a couple of things. He

keeps writing new stuff. He doesn't just

do a series of books. I mean, I love his

gunslinger series. Uh, and that was very

inspirational for me as as a young

person learning to write. Uh, I've read

his on writing book, but I like the

variety of kinds of things he he's

written. A lot of people just think of

him as a horror writer, but he does some

of the best work of making normal

people, unremarkable people, the heroes

of his books. And when you read stuff

like a Jack Reacher novel, and I'm not

trying to pick on it, but it's the

reality. He's a superhero in spite of

the fact he's not, and he does the exact

opposite. I really like that.

Um, there are writers that crank out

stuff at a constant level, and I just

think, "Wow, I got to get after it."

just so many times I'm just like, "Wow,

he wrote that too, huh?" So, uh that

that's the thing that keeps me uh keeps

me working on it. So,

anyway, KASM Stamps asked if we invest

or

speculate. Uh KSM does both, but more

investing. I am more of an investor,

too. Yes, I haven't been lately, but

I've been looking at a few things and

Yeah, I'm definitely more of an

investor. Yep. Yep.

Uh, are either of us motorcycle riders

at all? Joseph Fischer, used to be. Used

to be I when I had my uh my Kawasaki

design days, I would check out some

bikes from the press fleet because I

could. And I just decided it's not if,

but when something was going to happen.

And so I traded two motorcycle helmets

for a nasty couch. And then I had a

nasty couch. And

uh it served me well. You too could have

a nasty couch.

served me well for a little while until

I could afford a different couch. But

you know what? Uh yeah, I've just been

into cars ever since. And I I have to

admit, cars were always my thing. From

the time I was two, it was always cars.

Daniel is asking if we're Marvel fans.

Look, I'm movie fans in general. Marvel

completely revolutionized, for better

and for worse, how movies have been made

in the last 10 or 15 years. I think the

first decade of Marvel up until they got

to Avengers Endgame, I think that is a

good series, but I really think and they

were never going to do it because they

were making money. They should have

stopped. Okay. Since then, what you're

having now is major characters have

died. The people that people love have

gone away. Now you're trying to I hate

to say it, but kind of troll for

characters we haven't really heard of

and build them up. They're struggling.

Sorry. What movie are we talking about?

Marvel. The Marvel. Marvel. Okay. Just

reading. Yeah, I know. You've zoned out.

It's fine. I was zoning out. It's fine.

I mean, Marvel's cool. I love Marvel.

So, I really liked Up to Endgame. I

didn't like all those movies, but in

general, that kind of series, they

should have just gone out on a high and

been like, we've done a revolutionary

thing in the history of film and we

should stop now. Now, you see a new

Marvel movie come up and you go, do I

care? And sometimes maybe, but in

general, I think the audience does too.

They're like, I don't know. I So,

anyway, we'll see. We'll see where they

go from there.

Holy moly, we are already well past

debut spoken word album is called Nasty

Couch.

years ago, our friend Nathan actually

made a mock album cover for Paul's first

album. We should resurrect that because

uh yeah. Um are there Reacher movies

there or not? There's a Reacher TV

series. Um that's actually doing okay.

Now, there was a Reacher two or three

Reacher movies starring Tom Cruz, who is

the exact opposite of the description of

the guy in the novel, which is why Alan

Richson, the behemoth guy, that he is

perfect because he exactly matches the

the thing there. So, there's been a

successful series on Amazon. Um, yeah.

Anyway, who is our favorite Avenger?

Batman.

Good night, everybody. Good night,

everybody. Just kidding.

Just kidding. It's funny. It's funny.

That's very funny. I do like that very

much. Iron Man, of course, Iron Man's

awesome. And here's the thing. I will

say this. Captain America it late in the

series. Okay. Captain America when he's

Super Boy Scout, it's like, you know,

have some reality in the world. When he

gets a little later in the series, I

think he's really awesome.

As both of us have changed over the

years, is there a car segment we have

felt we appreciate more or or focus on

more compared to our earlier days of

reviews? Say off-roading. Say doing uh

doing more 4x4ing and off-roading. I

appreciate it more. It wasn't something

I ever really was into, but with the uh

the availability of Moab nearby. Yeah.

Not uh not terrible.

Freedom van. Hey Todd, Doug Deurro will

probably sell you his Cayenne when he's

done with the series. I have two and I

am doing just fine. Thank you very much.

We've got some cool stuff coming up with

the Rubik and I can't wait to really

please stop going to start. Please stop.

Daniel is asking for a list of movies

that you must see. Daniel, that how much

time do you have? I have a list. Um,

here's a question I love asking people.

And I'm not going to to to run this down

too far, but the question I love asking

people, your top three or five movies

you've ever seen, because I feel like

you can really find out what resonates

with a person when you find out their

top five movies. And when I say that,

I'm a movie geek. I don't mean the top

five movies a movie person really ought

to see. I mean top five movies that if

some if one of your friends said, "I've

never seen that." You'd be like, "We're

watching it right now. I love it so

much. I find top five movie list to be

great. I could go on and on. I have a

list on my phone. My son was just adding

to it of movies I want to make sure we

see together. Uh there are so very many,

but I'm going to give you uh a couple.

If you've never seen Unforgiven, it is a

phenomenal western you should see. If

you've never seen Lawrence of Arabia,

that is the pinnacle of old movie

making. It is shot in Panavision, super

widescreen. They actually did everything

you see in the movie. People were out in

the middle of the desert with hundreds

of people on camels having an actual

fight. This is what inspired Stephen

Spielberg's

creat totally sounds like it. No, but

it's what in inspired Steven Spielberg's

set building and and the way he built

the the sequences of Indiana Jones comes

from Lawrence of Arabia. Now, it is a

4hour movie. It has a pacing where if

you made it now, the movie be like 80

minutes long and they did it for four

hours. It has 1960s pacing. But if you

want to see how big movies used to be,

Lawrence of Arabia is a mustsee.

Speaking of investing, Cade Cuda is

asking if I'm an investor in Bitcoin,

and I am not. I have a friend who is,

and he's hand open, worms everywhere.

Sorry, what? He's so into it. He has a

Cyber Truck wrapped in Bitcoin orange.

Even got the brake calipers coated

Bitcoin orange. So, it's uh he's really

into it. And uh I have not jumped on

that uh on that bandwagon yet. I'm not

sure if I'm going to, but we'll see. I'm

more of a traditional stock market

investor, but uh yeah, there's there's a

lot of tech that I'm into. Energy. I

like a lot of things. I'm going to stay

out of the Bitcoin. I I have I mean, his

truck, you can't miss his truck. Cyber

Truck.

Bitcoin Orange. Yeah, that's he he uh

Quiet Man, Pulp Fiction, and Pans

Labyrinth. Those are three great movies.

Pan's Labyrinth is creepy and awesome.

Germo del Toro killing it with that

movie. Um, that is such good film making

and actually that was a new line movie

that I worked on. That was late in my

new line opportunity and uh I was very

very proud to work on that. Children of

men is another good one if you're

talking about somebody's bringing up

Clive Owen movies. Uh, that's another

really good one too. I'm a 928 investor.

You are. That is where your money goes

not into

Bitcoin 928 all of the time. Yes. Yeah.

That's a bad one. It's a bad one. Well,

should we uh wrap things up? I Man, I'm

like I said, I'm scrolling back through

as we're so much good stuff, you guys.

This is always fun. I I actually really

enjoy the All Question No Cars podcast.

We couldn't do it every time, obviously,

because we'd run out of topics, but you

guys like get pent up about questions

you want to ask. It's so awesome. Gets

us off in all kinds of things. It's

great. Sure. Let's see. Eugene Wang asks

me, "What is my go-to daily sipper as of

late?" Uh, Eugene personally finds

Angel's Envy Single Barrel in Sturgeis,

South Dakota, and it's amazing. And I

still have not had it. Uh, let's see. I

discovered Garrison Brothers, a Texas

whiskey, thanks to Monica and Nugget,

who brought it to one of our meetups

recently, and it was really good. We're

all sort of looking at each other like,

"Yeah, this is great. Good stuff." It's

not the Daily Sipper. I'm still into,

you know, the the single malts abalore

and the Japanese whisies are still good.

But uh that's cool. I'm glad you found

that. I uh haven't been into it all

summer long. We've been traveling and

it's just been hot weather, but you

know, the uh the snow's starting to fly

in the This is how I know this needs to

end in the chat right now. My wife is

asking questions about Doug Deuro's

Cayenne in case we want to buy it. So,

good night everybody. That that really

is probably the place we need to end it.

So, that's really good. Thanks to my

lovely wife for watching and and footing

up with me in general. That's pretty

awesome. Uh there will be more of these.

We will continue with the lives at every

25. So that means 975 is coming. 1,000,

I promise you, is going to be epic. We

are working on that. I I wish I could

tell you more, but I want to I want to

hold it close to the vest till we get a

little closer, but it's going to be

really awesome. Thank you guys so much

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