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Hello, and welcome back to the Fast and the Curious, the podcast that previews and
01:41
reviews the Grand Prix and speaks to some pretty cool people in and around the sport.
01:45
I'm Vettie Glover, and this is Christian Hugo.
01:47
We're not the cool people, are we Christian?
01:50
I've never been described as cool by anyone ever in my life.
01:53
I'm the least cool person in the world.
01:56
But it's nice to be here.
02:02
I've had a morning of it, so we're recording this in the morning, and we never record
02:03
these in the morning.
02:04
We always record these in the afternoon, and that's thrown me.
02:06
So I dreamed about the podcast last night.
02:08
I dreamed we were recording it in my old student radio studio from, like, years
02:14
That's just me out, because I couldn't get any of the recordings to work.
02:17
So I had one of those, like, not an anxiety dream, but, like, mmm, dream.
02:21
Then I missed a call this morning, because I forgot, because we were doing the podcast,
02:25
so I had to rush that.
02:26
And then I was rushing to get ready, and I'd got a tray of yogurts on the fridge,
02:32
and I pulled one out and basically took the shelf with me.
02:37
The fridge shelf comes out of my hands.
02:39
The yogurts go everywhere.
02:41
My leg is covered in salted caramel-flavoured protein yoghurt, which is
02:45
gutting, because it's my favourite yoghurt.
02:47
So then I've had to sort of rush to clean yoghurt off me, clean yoghurt off the
02:50
floor, consume some yoghurt, as was the original plan, rush to get a shower and
02:55
I've had a morning.
02:56
To be fair, it is a rush when we do this in the morning.
02:59
I've been, like, trying to eat my breakfast really quickly, like, down to
03:04
Oh, and don't get me started on coffee.
03:07
And by the way, there has been literally hundreds.
03:08
Thanks to the literally hundreds of people...
03:09
Oh, for God's sake.
03:10
...who have sent me Love and Best Wishes for the fact my coffee machine has broken.
03:14
Sat here drinking instant coffee like it's the war.
03:17
Oh, that's disgusting.
03:18
It's just such a shame.
03:20
No, I do feel sorry for you.
03:21
Oh, honestly, it's been really hard.
03:23
It's been really hard.
03:26
It's a difficult life.
03:28
Thank you for the love and support.
03:29
It wouldn't be so bad if I was away this weekend, but I'm not at this
03:32
Yeah, anyway, someone's coming to fix it tomorrow, so hopefully by the
03:34
debrief it'll be done, but I'll keep you all updated.
03:36
Well, I really do feel for you, Christian.
03:38
I really do feel for you.
03:39
Sending you lots and lots of love.
03:41
I nearly didn't do this podcast.
03:43
I really didn't, but yeah.
03:45
Anyway, shall we crack on?
03:47
Coming up today in this episode, it is getting to crunch time, isn't it?
03:50
Four races, two sprints to go.
03:52
We're going to preview the Brazilian Grand Prix.
03:56
We're going to talk about McLaren as it could not be any closer between
04:00
And we're also going to chat the future of Ferrari.
04:03
We're also going to speak to Formula 3 and Formula 2 commentator Chris
04:07
McCarthy, who's teaming up with BBC F1's Jenny Gal for a fun new thing,
04:12
which we're going to talk about later.
04:13
But Jenny is here now to talk about everything.
04:17
Jenny, how are you?
04:19
I have a cup of green tea winning at life.
04:21
I don't drink coffee, so I personally don't mind that Christian
04:25
isn't on the good stuff because it's okay.
04:29
And I had a slight fail this morning as well in that my stroke
04:34
brain took over from my actual brain this morning.
04:36
And I shampooed my hair twice.
04:38
Oh, that's good for your hair, though.
04:40
That's good for your scalp.
04:41
Yeah, but I was really in a rush.
04:43
I really thought it was like, I thought I picked conditioner on.
04:46
And I was like, this is really roughing up a lot.
04:49
And I realized, oh no, I've just, I've just sampled it again.
04:52
Doesn't it take women a lot longer to do that?
04:54
Because that would take me an extra like 60 seconds of my day.
04:57
Is that a longer thing for Anne Woman?
05:01
I think it's just the length of hair.
05:03
The length of hair.
05:05
And you've got quite short, trimmed, nice hair.
05:07
Thank you very much.
05:08
Whereas for Betty and I, with slightly longer hair,
05:11
with a curling it, nightmare.
05:13
Yeah, and I should say, in the interest of inclusivity,
05:16
yeah, I suppose a gentleman with longer hair
05:18
could also take longer to shampoo.
05:21
Jenny, we should also just mention, before we carry on,
05:23
this is something that me and Betty picked up on.
05:25
If you're watching on the YouTube, you'll be able to see us,
05:28
And Jenny's got a brilliant, like top them hotspire background.
05:33
And Betty asked, and we should ask the question,
05:35
are you a Spurs fan, Jenny?
05:37
So I have to note that my husband is the mad Spurs fan,
05:42
And I've kind of just got taken along for the ride.
05:45
My team is actually behind the camera
05:48
with a Portsmouth shirt on this side.
05:55
So I covered Pompey when they got promoted.
05:58
And ever since that point,
06:00
I have been a marginal Pompey fan,
06:03
but I didn't have any particular allegiance
06:06
to a football club growing up.
06:07
I just loved it, but didn't have a particular team.
06:11
So I've been very easily, I suppose, swayed,
06:15
that's the word, into supporting teams along the way.
06:19
Good win over Copenhagen in the Champions League
06:21
last night for Spurs.
06:24
Mickey van der Ven with an absolute worldie.
06:26
Have you guys watched that go?
06:29
I've not seen that.
06:30
I was watching Liverpool on the other side.
06:34
I love Mickey van der Ven.
06:36
And I don't particularly love Spurs that much.
06:40
Shall we stick to Formula One and stop talking about the police?
06:44
Just Formula One if you like.
06:45
I've had a nice time.
06:46
I don't know about people listening,
06:47
but I've had lovely times with just Formula One.
06:50
Let's talk about this race.
06:51
Let's talk about the fact that there is literally
06:53
one point between Lando and Oscar.
06:57
This is going to be absolutely fascinating, Jenny, isn't it?
07:00
To see how this is going to play out,
07:02
because we've got a proper McLaren battle on our hands
07:05
for the last part of this season.
07:07
And it is actually mad when you think about it,
07:09
because Lando was training Oscar by 34 points
07:13
And now he's in the lead.
07:14
And he was coasting.
07:16
He said, didn't he, at the Dutch Grand Prix,
07:18
well, you know, I can just relax.
07:20
I don't have any pressure on me now.
07:22
I can just go out, have a bit of fun.
07:24
The pressure is really on him leading the championship,
07:27
the first time since round four.
07:29
And I just wonder how that dynamic is going to shift
07:32
and tilt within the team,
07:33
because Piastri has been leading this championship
07:36
for such a long time.
07:37
Had the advantage, had the momentum,
07:39
thought it was going to be a walk in the park.
07:41
I actually predicted that he'd win this round.
07:45
And now Lando Norris has taken a lead
07:47
and it looks like it's going to go right down to the wire.
07:51
It's so good, isn't it?
07:54
We needed a season like this.
07:57
And we always say we started this podcast
07:59
from the worst possible season.
08:03
To the 2023 when Max won,
08:05
I believe Max wrapped up the title around two in China.
08:11
And now we've got a proper battle.
08:13
Christian, it's going to be really interesting, isn't it?
08:15
To see how Lando deals with the pressure
08:19
Yeah, he is the hunted.
08:21
In other words, he was the hunter.
08:23
Now he is the hunting.
08:25
Oh, he's the hunting.
08:30
It's not easy, is it?
08:32
I think that there's so much pressure on Lando Norris
08:37
because for the first time in a long time in Formula One,
08:42
I mean, we're talking getting on for a decade
08:45
until the 2010 sort of season
08:47
when we had a great battle between Alonso
08:50
and Vettel and Weber.
08:52
There's so much on Norris
08:54
because he's not just got to think about Oscar,
08:57
who is his teammate,
08:59
which brings all the complications of that.
09:01
But Max is on 3-2-1.
09:05
Plus a sprint weekend this weekend,
09:08
So that's another potential 10 points on the table here.
09:11
We saw what happened last time there was a sprint weekend.
09:13
We shouldn't discount the fact that these sprints
09:16
of which there are two more, including this weekend,
09:18
could have a significant impact on this title.
09:20
So there is loads of pressure
09:22
because he needs to maximise everything
09:24
from not just his teammate, but from Max as well.
09:26
I think, again, I refer back to
09:28
any time you speak to a racing driver,
09:30
they say the same thing.
09:31
You've just got to go out and do you.
09:33
And I think all he needs to do
09:35
is isolate it as a weekend.
09:37
I think he needs to forget all of that,
09:39
forget the title table, forget any of that,
09:41
go out, get to grips with it in free practice.
09:44
And also, you've got to have the flexibility,
09:46
I think, in a weekend like this,
09:48
to roll with the punches,
09:49
because I think they're going to be going out.
09:51
I've just checked the weather.
09:52
The weather is basically...
09:56
It's sunny spells, showers.
09:59
We're recording this on Wednesday morning.
10:01
I bet you, by the time that some people
10:03
will be listening to this on Friday afternoon,
10:05
it will have changed again.
10:06
When I looked yesterday, thunderstorms.
10:10
There is spells of dry weather as well.
10:11
So it's not like they can just go,
10:13
it's going to be a solely wet weekend.
10:15
You're just going to have to roll with the punches,
10:18
If you do Friday practice one,
10:20
we're focusing on practice one.
10:21
What can we do then?
10:22
All right, sprint qualifying.
10:23
Let's take it one step at a time.
10:25
Just focus on being the best you can be
10:27
in that particular session.
10:28
The building blocks will fall around you.
10:29
That's all Lando can do.
10:30
It's also all Oscar can do
10:32
in terms of getting himself back into form as well.
10:35
But it's not gone so well for Oscar.
10:38
That's all he had to do.
10:39
Concentrate on each race weekend.
10:41
And every race weekend,
10:42
it seems like something has got in his way.
10:44
And I don't know whether he needs a shatty change,
10:46
whether there's something going on within the team,
10:48
psychologically within him.
10:50
What's happened from Baku
10:52
when he had a bad weekend
10:54
crashed a car several times to now,
10:56
it's like he's a different driver
10:58
and he's really struggling with that car.
11:00
This is what his third season in Formula One's
11:03
really in the grand scheme.
11:05
He's still a little bit inexperienced, I guess.
11:08
And this is the first season
11:10
where he's had a lead like this.
11:12
And do you think that's part of it, Jenny?
11:14
Is that he's just...
11:15
Before you ask Jenny that question,
11:17
Jenny raised the word chassis change,
11:19
which is something a lot of people are theorizing.
11:22
Oh, very understandably so.
11:24
It's a perfectly reasonable theory,
11:25
given the struggles it had so far.
11:27
We've seen that a lot in the past
11:28
where drivers have said,
11:29
I'm struggling, change my chassis.
11:31
I think I seem to remember it happening with Schumacher.
11:33
I think it happened with Perez.
11:34
Rarely does it actually make a difference.
11:38
yes, it was the chassis and that's fixed everything.
11:40
I also directly asked McLaren about this as well
11:42
and was told there's nothing
11:45
that shows on any of the data,
11:47
any of the telemetry that there's a chassis issue.
11:49
It's also not like Oscars feeding back,
11:51
I need a chassis change, guys.
11:53
I think there's a lot of people sort of oversimplifying
11:55
that the people are thinking that
11:57
Oscars going back and knocking on the door and going,
11:59
I want a new chassis.
12:01
My understanding is that's not the case.
12:03
And also McLaren sort of emphasized to me that
12:05
well, if they did think
12:07
there was the need to change the chassis,
12:09
they changed the chassis.
12:10
They're not just going to not do it.
12:12
They want both drivers to be
12:13
with a chance of winning this championship
12:14
because Max is knocking at the door
12:15
so there's no reason not to give Oscar a change of chassis.
12:18
This might be a stupid question,
12:19
but how easy is it to change the chassis?
12:23
Really, really easy.
12:24
You can just do it.
12:25
They have a spare one carried with them
12:27
across the race weekend in case of a big crash
12:31
And sometimes if there's
12:33
the thought that there might be a hairline crack
12:35
or a fracture to that chassis,
12:37
they'll just change it anyway.
12:39
And I was surprised that they didn't rebuild
12:41
that in a different chassis in Baku.
12:44
But they didn't have to.
12:46
They didn't need to.
12:47
And I get what Christine is saying.
12:49
I think it's more a psychological thing
12:51
than an actual fix for a direct problem
12:54
and listening to the feedback
12:56
from last time out in Mexico,
12:58
it sounded like Oscar was starting to understand
13:01
what the problem is with the pace
13:03
and his feeling of the car.
13:04
And whilst it's favoured Lando Norris,
13:07
it's slightly disadvantaged Oscar Piastri
13:10
in the feedback that he gets
13:12
and the feeling that he gets from that car
13:14
and being able to push it to the absolute,
13:18
he's not able to do it.
13:20
But through Mexico it got better.
13:22
But I'm really interested to see
13:24
how he reacts in Brazil,
13:26
how the car responds to his touch
13:30
how he's done a lot of work on that simulator
13:34
to just get himself into a better place.
13:37
So you think it's just him
13:40
needing to get used to the car again
13:45
If you listen to Chim Principle Andrea Stella,
13:47
he spoke after Mexico
13:49
and so did obviously Piastri to the media.
13:52
He was very much until that point
13:54
at the loss of where the pace had gone.
13:57
Certainly when I spoke to him in America
13:59
he was dumbfounded.
14:01
He did not understand how all of a sudden
14:03
this car that had suited him so well
14:05
had really bonded with him
14:07
that had made him into
14:09
World Championship contender material.
14:11
All of a sudden it had gone from him
14:13
and the slight adaptations
14:17
bearing in mind they haven't brought on upgrade
14:19
for a very long time,
14:21
it's just not working for him
14:23
with those specific types of track.
14:25
Now Brazil is a very different type of track
14:27
and hopefully he'll get that feeling back.
14:29
And specific types of track
14:31
is exactly the point I was going to raise.
14:33
So if we go back to 2024
14:37
to the Singapore Grand Prix,
14:39
Lando won the race, Oscar was third,
14:41
USA Lando was fourth, Oscar was fifth,
14:43
Mexico Lando was second, Oscar was
14:45
eighth, Brazil Lando
14:47
was sixth, Oscar was eighth,
14:49
Vegas sixth, seventh
14:53
Lando was tenth and Oscar was on the podium
14:55
so different with Qatar but then
14:57
Abu Dhabi Lando was first, Oscar was tenth.
14:59
Oscar was still a young driver
15:01
but history has shown as he has struggled
15:03
at this point of the season before.
15:05
So is he actually a case of are we going
15:07
into some, we've said this how many times,
15:09
the example people love to raise
15:11
with this is Valtteri Bottas Russia.
15:13
Bottas was bloody untouchable
15:17
Lewis Hamilton couldn't get near him in Russia.
15:19
Are we in a situation where
15:21
actually we're in tracks that
15:23
doesn't quite favour, that's a possibility.
15:25
If you look at Perez
15:27
and his form I think it was in Baku.
15:29
Baku! It was almost
15:31
unbelievable! It was crazy!
15:33
So there are tracks that definitely
15:35
suit a driver and others that
15:37
you really have to work at across the weekend
15:39
and I just wonder do you think that being a sprint weekend
15:41
is actually in Piastri's favour
15:43
or will it work against him?
15:45
I think it could be in his favour
15:47
because it's simply
15:49
more time to get to grips with the car
15:51
in race spec and also you can
15:53
overthink things, whereas in a race
15:55
it's more difficult to do that because you're just racing.
15:57
So it could be in his favour.
15:59
The thing I always keep drawing
16:03
is certainly if you read the comments
16:05
of this podcast there seems to be a thing
16:07
that because I've said
16:09
Lando's had the better of Oscar recently
16:11
that I've all of a sudden changed my mind on Oscar Piastri.
16:13
I want to make it as clear as anything
16:15
I still think Oscar Piastri will win
16:17
multiple world championships.
16:19
I still think Oscar Piastri is a really special driver.
16:21
My views on Oscar Piastri have not
16:23
changed at all, but
16:25
we do have a lot of formal
16:27
fans and this is wonderful, who are newish
16:29
to the sport, have only watched one year, two years, three years.
16:31
I think what we should say is we've seen
16:33
this before. Lewis Hamilton over
16:35
the course of his career has had
16:37
ups and downs, he's had patches where it just
16:39
hasn't worked and what we look
16:41
Oscar won races a handful of races
16:43
ago, there is also a point
16:45
of form, form goes up and down
16:47
and I just think we could sit here and
16:49
speculate whether it's particular types
16:51
of track surface, whether it's these tracks that
16:53
don't suit, whether there might be an underlying
16:55
issue with the car, I personally don't think there is
16:57
but who knows, I might be wrong long term
16:59
or it could be a simple case
17:01
of a driver just in a
17:03
sticky patch of form and if we could
17:05
if we could understand
17:07
sporting form and somebody
17:09
there was a sport scientist
17:11
who could say this is how to come out of bad form
17:13
they'd be in a lot of
17:15
they'd have a lot of money, they'd be paid off
17:17
the mortgage because they'd be in demand
17:19
for every single sport in the world, form
17:21
sometimes can't be explained, it's just
17:23
a little sticky patch, I think Oscar will
17:25
come out the other side of it, I do. How much
17:27
do you think this is a
17:29
mental thing for Oscar?
17:31
Do you think he's lost his confidence?
17:35
where by that, we were on the grid
17:37
I can't remember exactly which race
17:39
maybe Singapore before it all went
17:43
said no, it's just I'm more nervous
17:45
than he is, I'm feeling the pressure more
17:49
still believe that inherently
17:53
cool as a cucumber, he is
17:57
and he's getting frustrated
17:59
because the car isn't doing what he
18:01
wants it to do and what he's expecting
18:03
it to do but I still
18:05
even now don't believe
18:07
he's rattled, I don't believe
18:09
the pressure has got too much and is capitulated
18:11
to Lando Norris, I just believe
18:13
circumstances are worked against
18:19
you have to say the C word at this point
18:21
don't worry, don't panic
18:25
the conspiracy theory
18:27
is still rife amongst fans
18:29
I get it on a daily basis of people
18:31
contacting me saying they've obviously
18:33
got it in for Piastri, that's a
18:35
British championship, it's British
18:37
team, they all want Lando
18:39
to win and that's what's going on behind
18:41
all of this, that's the booing that happened
18:43
last time at Mexico
18:45
which I thought was a bit rough
18:47
and shouldn't happen in our sport
18:49
and I'm disappointed
18:51
that it happened in Mexico which has always
18:57
and they built up this head
18:59
of steam against Lando and
19:01
as F1 I think they should have spoken
19:03
out more and said look enough
19:09
but I'm interested to know
19:11
how your fans and the fans
19:13
of the sport have reacted to this whole
19:15
conspiracy theory and how you
19:17
think that is having an impact
19:19
on the championship
19:21
Christian knows this more so than anybody
19:23
because they've been in his DMs
19:25
we've had Oscar on the podcast since
19:27
the start and he was the first thing
19:31
was the first chat we ever recorded
19:33
he's a part of this podcast sort of growth
19:35
story and we've been lucky enough
19:37
thanks to the lovely people at McLean's
19:39
catch up with him on a regular basis as he's risen
19:41
as the podcast got older
19:43
and I think therefore a lot of people were shocked
19:45
when I said in Baku
19:47
actually I don't think it was a good weekend for Oscar
19:49
and to go back to your point
19:51
Jenny you said he doesn't appear rattled
19:53
I agree with you to me the only time he's been rattled
19:55
was that Baku weekend where
19:57
I thought he looked a bit rattled outside the car
19:59
and inside the car people really hated that
20:01
I said he came across as a bit of a spoiled teenager
20:03
he was grumpy on the radio
20:05
it was tonguing cheek
20:07
I was having a bit of a laugh as anybody
20:09
who listens to this podcast regularly
20:11
we don't take the sport seriously and we will not start taking the sport seriously
20:13
have a bit of a laugh it's only sport
20:15
but I stand by all those comments
20:17
it was not a great weekend for Oscar
20:21
the sudden drop off in form
20:23
we've not seen it for a while
20:25
but we have seen it in Formula One
20:27
as I've just said in my previous answer
20:29
so yes Jenny to answer your question
20:31
there's a lot of life and plentiful
20:33
and people who express opinions like me
20:35
have been very vociferous
20:37
another thing we get a lot at the moment
20:39
and there'll be people listening and watching this
20:41
being like oh I don't read the comments
20:43
I didn't know any of this it's not everybody
20:45
but another thing we get a lot is
20:47
because the three of us are British
20:51
so therefore we must be anti-Oscar
20:53
which I say you're not really paying attention to the podcast history
20:55
because it is on more frequently than Greg James
21:01
certain people have come out and said it
21:05
has got massively overplayed
21:07
me and Jenny are lucky enough
21:09
to be in the Paddock Affair bit
21:11
Jenny's got vastly more experience in the Paddock
21:13
than I am and I'd be interested to know
21:15
if you agree with me here Jenny
21:17
but the issue of nationality
21:23
of chatting to journalists
21:25
people who work in the sport
21:27
it doesn't come up because in Formula One
21:31
interacting with people
21:33
from other nationalities
21:35
there are Australian drivers
21:37
there are French team members
21:39
there are Italian team members
21:41
there are German drivers whatever
21:43
it just isn't a thing
21:45
and then when you do speak to
21:47
there are a lot of British journalists
21:49
because the sports got Britain throughout its history
21:51
but when you speak to those journalists
21:53
and you do get into
21:55
very few of them say the Brits
21:57
and even if they did say a Brits
21:59
not because they're British it's because they admire
22:01
something about their driving style
22:03
about their character, about their personality
22:05
the nationality thing I think is much bigger
22:07
for people who are outside of Formula One
22:09
and people who are in it
22:11
the British conspiracy don't go into the media room
22:13
and there is a bit where some of the British journalists
22:15
sit together but they're not all
22:17
cheering for the Brits
22:19
like I've said all season Betty
22:21
they just wanted to be good and entertaining
22:23
for business that's good for
22:25
we as people that want to work in the sport
22:27
want it to be a close title battle
22:29
that's all people want
22:31
I think the nationality thing gets
22:35
when it's British bias
22:37
I think you're looking for something that doesn't really exist
22:39
but all we want is it to be competitive
22:41
we just want to watch good racing
22:43
we want the sport to thrive
22:45
we don't care necessarily who wins
22:47
we just want it to be good
22:49
and entertaining Jenny
22:51
I do think there's a slight British bias
22:53
because as you've said
22:55
a lot of the people
22:59
yes there's multinationals
23:01
represented from all corners of the world
23:03
and travelling circles
23:05
3-4 thousand people
23:07
but the language of choice
23:09
that everybody has to speak
23:13
there are more journalists from the UK
23:17
regardless of how many entrants they have
23:19
there are more British drivers than anyone else
23:23
that Sky broadcasts
23:25
which is to a lot of countries throughout the world
23:27
they are aware of that
23:29
but you have to say they are a British broadcaster
23:31
and Crofty does a wonderful job
23:33
as my computer is almost about to explode
23:39
Crofty does a great job
23:41
but as with any broadcaster
23:43
let's say you're watching football
23:45
and it's Gary Lineker
23:49
I'm mixing up all the different broadcasters
23:51
and you're listening to commentary of England
23:57
is going to be more excited for an England goal
23:59
than they are for the opposition goal
24:01
not because it's a bad game
24:05
it's just the way we're made
24:07
and if you listen to commentary in Brazil
24:09
the Brazilian journalist will be more excited
24:11
for a Brazilian goal
24:13
than they will if England score
24:17
and the way that we represent the sport
24:19
so I'm not saying that Crofty will be more excited
24:23
Norris is won the championship
24:25
I think we're all better journalists and broadcasters
24:29
but inherently there must be something within you
24:35
this is great, I want to see the best person
24:37
and if it happens to be Norris
24:39
maybe we should be excited for that
24:41
maybe that should be the best outcome as a Brit
24:43
I don't think there's anything wrong with that
24:47
I think I'd slightly disagree Jenny
24:49
again to use a commentator analogy
24:51
one of the most excitable commentaries I've seen
24:53
is Alex Jakes for Charlotte Clair winning the Monaco Grand Prix
24:55
Jakes he was just in his element
24:57
and that's not a British thing
24:59
so I'm not sure it's there as strongly
25:01
I don't see it as much as you do
25:05
but I think the fact that we have differing opinions on it
25:07
suggests maybe there is something that I don't know
25:09
but isn't that the whole Jakesy thing
25:11
with Monaco and Charlotte Clair
25:13
that was for the love of the sport
25:15
because we're all involved and invested in the sport
25:17
as the fans are too
25:19
but that's why I think it's stronger than nationality
25:21
so I agree with you on that side
25:25
there is a sway towards
25:29
English nurse in the paddock
25:31
and I'd be more interested to hear
25:33
from the French broadcasters
25:35
or the Brazilian broadcasters about actually
25:37
how they feel this championship
25:39
being depicted and if they feel
25:45
I'm asking lots of questions about it
25:47
because I don't want to just take
25:51
there's nothing there
25:53
because if enough people are saying it, maybe there is something there
25:55
but I'm too British to see it
25:57
I get what you're saying
25:59
and I think it is good to ask those questions
26:01
and sort of like see
26:03
try and see both sides of it
26:07
anyone in the media
26:11
biased towards Lando than Oscar
26:13
just because Lando's
26:15
a Brit but maybe that's me being naive
26:17
I certainly don't see it like that
26:19
if anything, I think a lot of people
26:23
to be quite honest with me
26:25
see that's the thing, are we double checking ourselves
26:27
because we can't favour Norris
26:29
so we're all backing, I don't know
26:31
I don't really know what I feel about it
26:33
and also I can only speak for myself
26:35
I am looking enough to go to races
26:39
my fan relationship with the sport is obviously
26:41
vastly different and people ask me all the time
26:43
who's your favourite driver
26:45
I don't have a favourite driver on track
26:47
I just don't, I don't look at the sport that way
26:49
I look at it and wanting it to be entertaining
26:51
therefore that's where
26:53
where I would be biased
26:55
is if we had had 15 max races
26:57
max race wins in a row
26:59
I would be actively in favour of max not winning the next Grand Prix
27:01
because I want entertainment
27:03
that's where I hold my hands up to my bias
27:05
but even during the Hamilton era
27:07
when he won everything
27:11
absolutely I wanted somebody else to win
27:15
but I can go off like
27:17
I love talking to Alex Albon
27:19
who's tied because he's chaos
27:21
I love Oscar because he's the loveliest sweetest guy
27:23
I like Lando because I admire his principles
27:25
my reasons for liking these guys
27:27
or not liking these guys come to me
27:29
personally nothing to do with their
27:33
but you know, it's a fun topic
27:35
and one we will undoubtedly revisit
27:37
we are yet to interview a driver
27:39
who has not been very nice to us
27:41
we haven't met an angry
27:45
so maybe when we do
27:47
then we won't favour them
27:49
can we talk about Max for Saffron though
27:51
because he, right, 36 points off the lead Jenny
27:53
do you think he could do it
27:55
what have we got, 4 races left
27:57
and 2 sprint races, is it possible
27:59
sprint weekends doesn't mean
28:01
which is a worry I think for McLaren
28:03
that he could sneak in there
28:09
Abu Dhabi, I wouldn't write him off
28:11
he has been, I used it in a column that I did
28:15
for the last few races
28:17
because he just seems in the form of his life
28:21
he feels very comfortable
28:23
he's in a good place in his relationship
28:25
everything is balanced it seems
28:27
and obviously it's easy to look from the outside
28:31
he doesn't have any pressure
28:37
5 world championships in a row
28:39
only one man's ever done that before
28:41
we all know who that is, the most successful driver around Brazil as well
28:45
especially if it's raining, we've seen what he's like
28:47
in the rain in Intelargos
28:49
I think it's a long shot
28:51
but never write Max off
28:53
yeah, you can't write Max off
28:59
he's got a mountain to climb doesn't he
29:01
he really does, but if anyone can do it
29:03
it is Max, and that is it for part one
29:05
after the break we're going to talk about
29:07
Oli Bearman to Ferrari
29:11
the end of the season is getting so
29:13
incredibly close, the championship battle
29:17
insane, we're all going to miss it
29:19
so much when that final race of the season comes around
29:23
for a break at the end of the F1 season
29:25
but you just kind of don't want this one to end
29:29
with so little in it
29:33
the winter break is getting shorter and shorter
29:37
there's a saying we don't want this season to end
29:39
but 2026 will literally be here before we know it
29:41
I know I think you need a holiday
29:43
to be honest, I think we all need a holiday
29:45
but our sports fans, we're so fickle
29:47
aren't we, because instantly
29:49
there is going to be a whole load of
29:51
new storylines that we're just going to get carried away with
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a whole load of new drivers that we're
29:55
going to get behind and say that they're going to win
29:57
the championship and there's also going to be
29:59
brand new cars for everyone to get used to as well
30:01
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30:03
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there is so much drama
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I just love it, I love it
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but that means now is actually a good time to start
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I don't know why but
35:41
I must be slightly out of the loop
35:43
a little bit because this bit of gossip
35:45
in the rumor mill completely
35:47
hit me round the head I had no idea
35:49
that this was a thing guys
35:51
but there's a lot of chat about
35:53
Oli Berman being lined up as a potential
35:55
successor to Lewis Hamilton
35:59
where do you both stand on this Christian
36:01
Christian I'll come to you first because is this
36:05
well firstly is this the thing
36:07
yeah the rumors are a thing
36:09
for a start the rumors out
36:11
there that I've seen a lot of actually in the last week in particular
36:13
that Ferrari aren't looking
36:15
at beyond either 26
36:17
or 27 depending on which
36:21
to continue with Lewis Hamilton saying that
36:23
they'll make a break with Lewis either at the end of 2026
36:25
or the end of 2027 and they're saying
36:29
is Berman so why are they saying that
36:31
well firstly Oli Berman is a
36:33
Ferrari junior driver every time I spoke
36:35
to him last season he was wearing his Ferrari
36:39
sent out to Haas because Haas have an extremely
36:41
close relationship with Ferrari
36:43
Oli's had a good run of form
36:45
as we spoke about at length in the debrief
36:47
last time out Betty
36:49
that's why you're seeing it
36:51
in terms of my take
36:53
on the validity of these
36:55
rumors it's far too early
36:57
to tell I do not believe that either
36:59
Ferrari or Lewis Hamilton
37:03
sure of what they will do at the end of 2026
37:05
or the end of 2027 because it entirely
37:07
depends on the end of 2026
37:09
if Lewis has a wonderful 2026
37:11
and is right up there with Charles
37:15
performance into what you get from him
37:17
off track in development and this is a team
37:19
that needs direction would they get
37:21
red of Lewis Hamilton no they wouldn't
37:23
if Lewis Hamilton had a bad
37:29
would be right up there
37:31
with the list of drivers
37:33
they would look at because he
37:35
is a Ferrari junior
37:37
so do I see it happening
37:39
in the future potentially yes I do
37:41
are the rumors true
37:43
no not at this stage because
37:45
they're predicting something that I don't think
37:47
Ferrari or Hamilton know themselves
37:49
do you have a different take to me
37:51
what do you think of my rambling analysis
37:55
so as soon as Berman
37:57
got the call up to replace Carlos
37:59
Sainz last year for round 2
38:01
which was Saudi Arabia
38:03
Carlos had appendicitis as you might remember
38:05
and Berman qualified 11th
38:09
in the race obviously
38:11
the Ferrari was a better car
38:15
in your first F1 race
38:21
and all the responsibility that goes with that
38:23
that's a tricky track as well Jenny
38:25
that's a very tricky track
38:27
so it was a massive thing for him
38:29
to have done and that enabled him
38:31
to get the half drive this year
38:33
you're only as good
38:35
as your last maybe four races
38:39
four very good races
38:41
where other people have not
38:45
at the moment and whether it's
38:49
his agent his management team
38:51
whether it's coming from
38:53
Italian media I don't know the sources
38:55
directly but there are whispers
38:57
and it's in Ollie's interest
38:59
for their 2B whispers
39:01
linking him to that for our receipt because he has
39:03
hot property at the moment
39:05
if has come out with a car that
39:07
is wholly awful next year
39:09
because we don't know
39:11
what the pecking order will be
39:13
he won't be the talk of the town anymore
39:15
he won't be scoring
39:17
point scoring double in a weekend
39:19
and we arrange those words
39:23
so his opportunity is now
39:25
to get that buzz going
39:27
on a year where Lewis Hamilton
39:29
has struggled both emotionally
39:31
physically being able to drive
39:35
if you go back to Budapest
39:37
I've not seen him looking that low
39:39
speaking to us as media
39:45
doesn't perform well next year
39:47
and Ferrari create another dog
39:51
Ferrari create a dog is a lovely quote
39:55
it's happened before
39:57
will Lewis stick around for the whole year
40:05
are you staying retiring
40:07
or going somewhere else
40:09
did you at any point this year
40:11
Christian Orbetty think
40:13
for one moment one little inkling
40:19
because 26 being on the horizon
40:23
but the answer to my question
40:25
gives credence to your theory
40:27
because the new era is in the horizon
40:29
for 26 and you're saying
40:31
if it's a disaster mid-season
40:33
tell you what Jenny
40:35
I don't want it to be true
40:37
none of us do of course we don't
40:39
but yes strange of things
40:41
I can't sit here and say now it's preposterous
40:43
it won't happen I've never thought of that
40:49
if you're Ferrari and looking around
40:51
just in case something
40:53
happened with Lewis Hamilton or Charles Leclerre
40:55
you never know which one is going to throw
40:57
their toys out the pram first
40:59
then you would be crazy
41:01
not to look at your roster of talent
41:05
you with the next cabs on the rank
41:07
and Arthur Leclerre
41:09
obviously Charles's brother
41:11
has he really got enough to come to F1
41:15
there have been so many people that have been
41:17
Ferrari juniors and missed out
41:21
if you look at Schwartzman
41:23
they're a whole host
41:25
Bearman is the next one in line
41:31
I'd never thought of it
41:33
if you sit here and say that's a ridiculous theory
41:37
I very much enjoy that
41:39
let's take it less spicy
41:43
if either Hamilton or Leclerre got Covid
41:47
or fell down the stairs
41:49
or took all the yogurt off the shelf and injured themselves
41:51
Bearman would be the first person who would get the replacement
41:55
when Mercedes borrowed Williams from
41:59
Mercedes borrowed Russell from Williams
42:01
that would be the same thing
42:03
that if Lewis Hamilton
42:05
had to miss this weekend
42:07
they'd be knocking on Io come out to his door
42:09
and Hass would say yes they'd have to
42:11
so that relationship's there
42:13
and if Olly keeps driving the way he's driven
42:17
I was having a chat about Olly
42:19
to a few people in the paddock in Austin
42:23
story of Bearman's season was
42:25
there's always been the speed but there was lots of
42:29
in the middle of the season
42:31
one example I think I've raised on the pod before
42:33
is crashing on the pit entrance in Silverstone
42:37
it was a very rookie season somebody said to me once
42:39
Olly's having a very rookie season
42:43
what we're seeing in this second and this back
42:45
end of the season is the rookiness disappearing
42:47
a little bit and the speed remains
42:49
now what we were saying about Oscar
42:51
form fluctuates we shouldn't get carried away
42:53
Olly might have a dip
42:55
but if Olly continues this
42:57
inter next season and be at the end of this season
42:59
and inter next season
43:01
this chat will get stronger
43:05
and he's got a really good barometer next to him in Ocon
43:07
Esteban is a damn good
43:11
he's a very solid Formula 1 driver
43:13
but he's not ever been picked up
43:15
by Mercedes when they've had the option
43:17
right so judge that what you will
43:19
so if Olly comes out and beats
43:23
in season 2 that is when you are going
43:25
to start Ferrari are going to be starting to think
43:27
hmm interesting as are
43:33
I might do a pastry with Alpine
43:35
here actually if I'm struggling
43:37
can I nick him from another team
43:39
don't know who that team would be
43:41
but yeah if Olly carries on the way
43:43
he's going to be in the shot window and Ferrari have got
43:47
you would suggest there
43:49
just quickly Jenny do you think Olly
43:51
Bearman has what it takes to win
43:53
a championship one day
43:57
I didn't think Oscar Piastri did when he first came in
43:59
even though he was lauded
44:01
I'm not sure I've seen Kimi Antonelli
44:03
as good as everyone makes out that he could be
44:07
these cars are tricky
44:09
as we've seen Lewis Hamilton can't get to grips
44:11
with this evolution of car
44:13
we know he's a multiple champion
44:15
but he can't drive these cars
44:17
so it depends will next year's cars
44:23
think you can't really
44:25
tell until it's all
44:29
and a driver you think is going to be
44:31
amazing so talented
44:33
if they don't get that pattern
44:35
of winning the momentum
44:37
the confidence in the car which is key
44:39
the team believing in them
44:41
then they might be the best driver
44:43
ever but they won't get that chance
44:45
to win multiple world champions
44:47
so it really depends
44:49
if it's given the right car at the right time
44:51
and we always have this conversation
44:55
depending on that, look at Fernando Lanzo
44:57
brilliant, brilliant driver
44:59
wrong car, wrong time
45:03
that is pretty true
45:05
we talk so much about
45:07
2026 and we've been talking about
45:09
2026 for the last three years
45:11
I cannot wait for 2026
45:13
to roll round and actually
45:15
see if it's worth it
45:21
but I would just like a break first
45:23
I'm a bit in fear of it
45:27
because this year I thought this is going to be epic
45:29
and actually it has turned into a battle
45:33
could win it and we haven't seen that since
45:35
2012 so for me it's
45:37
kind of yes but it's been
45:39
very slow to get to this point
45:41
and I thought there'd be five drivers
45:43
fighting for the title this year
45:47
I don't care about anything else
45:49
I just want to see a good
45:51
handful of drivers from different teams
45:53
of different nationalities
45:55
battling with amazing races
45:59
and I'm just fearful that these cars
46:01
aren't going to give us that
46:03
Jenny don't say that
46:05
we don't need that negative
46:07
I'm putting all my positivity into 2026
46:09
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welcome back everybody
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and a big welcome to
48:00
Formula 2 commentator Chris McCarthy
48:02
Chris welcome to the fast and the curious
48:06
had a good morning because everyone on this podcast
48:08
seems to have had a shambles of a morning
48:10
been very good thanks so much for having me on
48:12
a fan of the show so it's
48:14
it's a pleasure to be here thank you
48:16
thank you very much for having me on the show
48:18
excellent well we're going to talk about F2
48:20
and obviously F1 with you in a moment
48:22
but firstly you've managed
48:24
to get Crofty a host of talented
48:26
young drivers the celebrity
48:28
chef Tom Kerridge our old mate
48:30
Chloe Grant and Formula 1's
48:32
tallest commentator ever
48:34
Harry Benjamin into the same room
48:36
in built-in teens this month
48:40
long gentleman Benjamin
48:46
why have you done this what was
48:48
happening talk to us about it
48:50
yeah I mean purple sectors
48:52
was a event that really
48:54
started for me a couple of years ago
48:58
was diagnosed with epilepsy when I
49:00
was 17 years old and
49:02
I didn't really open up about it too much
49:04
at the time I think a lot of people
49:06
when they they get epilepsy there
49:08
you know you know they're
49:10
embarrassed to speak about it they hide
49:12
from it and that was something I did when I
49:14
when I got it it wasn't and
49:16
wasn't until a couple of years ago really that I
49:18
was brave enough to go around the paddock
49:20
with a with a t-shirt on that
49:22
really showed that I had had
49:24
epilepsy and when I put pictures
49:26
out about that that the paddock
49:28
really warned me and I started to get into
49:30
conversations and realized that people
49:32
very near to me were suffering
49:34
with similar things or had connections
49:36
to epilepsy in similar ways so
49:38
off the back of that I approached the
49:40
young epilepsy charity and
49:42
came up with this idea that why
49:44
don't we give you know people with
49:46
epilepsy who cannot race ultimately
49:48
I used to race myself and when I got
49:50
diagnosed that I lost my race license
49:52
haven't been able to race since but
49:54
why don't we give people with epilepsy
49:56
a chance to race their heroes
49:58
a chance to become racing drivers
50:00
through SIM racing put them in the same
50:02
room as people like Chloe Grant
50:04
professional racing drivers
50:06
the people they listen to like people
50:08
like Harry Benjamin in the same room
50:10
and go racing for an evening
50:12
and that's what we did last year
50:14
with the first event and this year
50:16
thanks to Neil Cohen to Jenny Gao
50:18
we've expanded that project
50:20
and we've bought some big
50:22
guests in for Purple Sectors
50:24
too and made some initiatives off the
50:26
back of it so it's been
50:28
more successful than I could ever imagine
50:30
and we're only in year two so
50:32
yeah it's been really good
50:34
to see and it's creating I think a
50:36
bit of a community within the paddock
50:38
That's amazing Jenny why did you want to be
50:40
part of this? Well firstly Chris
50:42
is amazing and he's very
50:44
good at what he does and very good at
50:46
telling a story which is bizarre really
50:48
because as a commentator you don't do that at all
50:52
I suppose racing's loss
50:54
again as a community of commentators
50:56
broadcasters and journalists
50:58
because Chris is greater what he does
51:02
my daughter was diagnosed with epilepsy
51:08
and it was a bit of a shock to
51:10
the system she has absences
51:14
aren't like the shaking ones
51:20
she just goes away for some time
51:24
few minutes could be seconds
51:28
navigate this new life
51:30
I've met lots of people
51:32
who are Mums and Dads
51:34
of people who have epilepsy
51:38
it is very much a life changing
51:40
illness if you have it
51:42
and you have it for the rest of your life
51:44
a lot of children do grow out of it
51:46
but I just wanted to do
51:48
as much as I could to raise awareness
51:50
because Chris is right
51:52
it's another one of those things that
51:54
we don't talk about
51:56
we're scared to talk about it
51:58
and the more we are aware of it
52:02
what we can look out for
52:04
how we can help, how we can aid
52:08
young people who have got epilepsy
52:10
to have a better life
52:12
to make the best of their life
52:14
then the more we can do
52:18
because guys it's something
52:22
about the stuff that people don't speak
52:24
about on this podcast
52:26
and I think weirdly
52:30
falls a little bit behind society
52:32
sometimes some of the taboos
52:34
in society still end up being taboos
52:38
a little bit later on
52:40
so it's why we always talk about
52:42
whether it's getting women involved in motorsport
52:44
whether it's LGBT stuff all the stuff we talk about
52:48
Chris obviously you've always had a passion
52:52
you've raced yourself as you say
52:58
we know it unfortunately stopped your racing
53:00
but were you worried it would have a wider impact
53:02
on just your motorsport involvement full stop
53:06
obviously getting around the country
53:08
when you can't drive is a little bit difficult
53:10
but in all honesty it's actually become
53:12
quite a positive thing
53:14
it forced me to have to meet people
53:18
I found myself in going to tracks
53:20
I remember the first time I did
53:22
Formula Rena Eurocup I arrived at Hockenheim
53:24
with absolutely no idea
53:26
how I was going to get to the hotel
53:28
then how I was going to get back
53:30
and then how I was going to get back to the airport
53:32
but then that forced me to meet a load of people
53:34
so I've become quite a good passenger
53:38
and I've often had to see people with racing jackets
53:40
getting on flights and go up to them
53:42
and then face track
53:44
and then ask them for a lift
53:46
and buy them a coffee for the pleasure of it
53:50
it's forced me to become a little bit more confident
53:52
I think in the paddock
53:54
and I've tried to turn it into a positive
53:56
and that's what I think through this event
53:58
myself, Jenny and Neil we're trying to do
54:00
we're trying to include people
54:02
and show them that they should
54:04
become involved in the sport
54:06
they shouldn't let this hold them back
54:08
because yes we do have
54:10
epilepsy but it has never helped me back
54:12
and actually all the people
54:14
that when I've opened up
54:16
to the people that I've worked for
54:18
they've only gone out of their way to help me
54:20
get around it so I did worry
54:22
about it a lot and that's why I never spoke about it
54:24
but the more I opened up about it
54:26
the more help I got actually
54:28
Chris you also mentor quite a lot
54:30
of young people as well don't you
54:32
you sort of try and help them
54:34
can you talk to us a little bit about that
54:36
why do you do that I guess
54:38
things with purple sectors
54:40
we did this year when I
54:42
went to Jenny and to Neil
54:44
we decided we wanted to take the event
54:46
a little further than just having
54:48
people with epilepsy race at the event
54:50
which was something we did last year
54:52
something that we're going to do again this year
54:56
Young Epilepsy has a great program
54:58
called the Youth Voice Network where they
55:00
help a lot of young people
55:02
through their epilepsy
55:04
and help them deal with it
55:08
the Youth Voice Network
55:10
and gave them this opportunity
55:12
all the members on it to
55:14
become part of the broadcast team
55:22
after quite a few applications we took
55:24
five people to Silverstone
55:26
to the Silverstone 500
55:28
race a British GT race and we took them
55:32
took them into Hayfish's truck
55:34
we got to see a broadcast live
55:38
Kian Giuse the GT driver
55:40
who eventually won the championship
55:42
they sat in his car which was really cool
55:44
and then we took them to
55:46
the British Cart Championships as well
55:48
where they got to have a little go on
55:50
pushing the buttons for Alpha Live
55:52
who were broadcasting the event
55:54
and this year well next week
55:56
they're going to be helping us broadcast
55:58
purple sectors to live so it's going to be
56:00
a really cool experience for them
56:02
to be broadcasting on the CV for them
56:04
and hopefully then something they can take on
56:06
to try and go and work in the industry
56:08
that's brilliant Chris because you're providing people
56:10
with opportunities which I think all of us
56:12
me, Chris, Jenny, Betty, we all know
56:14
unless someone gives you a go at something
56:16
at some point you don't start
56:18
we've all got somebody to be grateful for
56:20
so that's massive and you'll be in that person
56:22
for so many people Chris
56:26
I think you all relate to it
56:28
so many people who listen to this podcast
56:30
and watch this podcast will relate to it
56:32
the fact that if you're different
56:34
whether you've got epilepsy
56:36
whether you've got a
56:38
learning difficulty
56:40
whether you're gay, whether you're a woman sometimes
56:42
in sport, there is that worry, that feeling
56:44
that because I'm different this is going to stop me
56:46
and I suppose talking about it in lieu of
56:50
helps get rid of stigmas
56:52
and realise you can be involved in sport
56:54
in our case motorsport no matter who the hell you are
56:58
diversification of F1 fans
57:03
there are more people coming to this sport
57:05
younger people, different people
57:07
people that we want to
57:09
not only open the door to
57:11
we want to blow the door off
57:13
and say whoever you are
57:15
I don't care if you're young, old, black
57:17
it doesn't make a difference
57:19
this sport is inclusive
57:21
and this society is one that will support you
57:23
it's not about booing someone
57:25
it's about cheering for someone
57:27
lifting them up and hoping that they can
57:31
better than you are
57:33
so I am a thoroughly
57:37
or I thoroughly believe in
57:39
mentoring, ambassadorships
57:43
a gap open for someone else
57:45
to explore what they
57:47
can bring to this sport
57:49
and it doesn't matter
57:51
who you are you will always
57:53
have something different to bring
57:55
which will be of benefit to someone
57:58
absolutely and right Chris
58:00
you mentioned purple sectors too
58:02
we know it's in Milton Keynes it's November the 11th
58:04
if people are listening to this
58:05
we've got people listening to this all around the world
58:07
Milton Keynes is a bit of a track
58:09
and I'm sure they'll send their apologies
58:11
but if you are fairly close to Milton Keynes
58:13
on November the 11th and people think this is something I'd like to go to
58:15
or even just get involved in
58:17
Chris what are the details where can people go
58:19
it's going to be live broadcast
58:21
on Alpha Live's YouTube channel
58:23
he's already up for that so do go
58:25
and check out the YouTube channel
58:27
and you can already see that we've got the live stream link
58:29
up there ready to go
58:31
we're going to be actually broadcasting
58:33
not just that but a content creator race
58:35
as well which will be filmed a little bit earlier
58:37
in the day so you might see some familiar
58:41
and yeah and then we've got
58:43
our Instagram page as well
58:45
at setting purple sectors which has
58:47
links to our raffle prizes
58:49
as well so if you can't be there then
58:51
we've got some great auctions, some great raffles
58:53
Jenny's done some fantastic
58:55
work around the paddock when she's been off to the F1 events
58:57
we've got stuff from Mercedes
59:01
she'll enict it Chris
59:05
she'll have been around the back with the in-liner
59:09
they're going to see it goes missing
59:11
what they don't know won't hurt them
59:17
have a look you might
59:19
see some of it yourself
59:21
but there's some really great stuff
59:25
we've got stuff coming in from Paul Oz as well
59:27
which looks really cool so
59:29
have one of these up for grabs as well
59:31
I don't know if it's
59:35
Jenny is that how to read F1 available still in all good bookshops
59:39
I actually believe it is
59:41
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59:47
perfect Christmas gift for a Formula 1 fan
59:49
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59:51
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59:53
I could do I would say it's the perfect raffle prize as well
59:55
because it's going to be a great event
59:57
and there's something for everyone
59:59
when it comes to raffles and auctions
00:01
and if you just want to get involved
00:03
send us messages on the night
00:07
because I think the more we talk about it
00:11
the better it will be for everyone
00:13
and it will be such a fun event
00:15
so if you can't be there with
00:17
Harry and Crofty going head to head
00:19
in the commentator's buffer with Chris
00:21
then you can join us online
00:25
that sounds wonderful if people are wondering
00:27
why the right honourable Betty Glover
00:29
has left us and is being quiet
00:31
it's not that she doesn't support the event
00:33
she's very passionate about it but she's struggling with internet issues
00:35
so I'm holding the thought
00:37
Chris while we've got you here
00:39
we need to talk about F3 and F2
00:43
well Kamara taking the crown
00:45
but we've got two more rounds of Formula 2
00:47
in Vegas and Abu Dhabi
00:49
you are the commentator, you are the oracle of this
00:51
so I'd like to know who's going to win
00:53
and who we should be excited about
00:55
and if these predictions aren't right
00:57
we'll be holding you personally responsible
00:59
so yeah, who's going to win Chris?
01:01
I'm seeing Jack Crawford in a week
01:03
so it'd be awkward if I didn't say him
01:09
it looks like it's going between them
01:13
I think the next round is going to be key
01:15
Jack Crawford is going to have the
01:17
advantage there as he's raced there before
01:19
Leo Fornaroli hasn't
01:21
and then they've both got track experience
01:23
at Abu Dhabi, it really is hard to put
01:25
a name on one driver
01:27
because the championship leaves changed
01:29
I think with every single race
01:31
but Fornaroli has just looked
01:33
he won the championship in F3
01:35
last year and he is making
01:37
absolutely no mistakes at the moment
01:39
so it looks like he just has the edge
01:41
but track advantage might give
01:43
Jack Crawford a chance to
01:45
sneak into the lead or at least draw level
01:47
going into the final round
01:49
I think he's going to go to the last race
01:51
in all honesty, I'm really excited about it
01:53
Chris, just briefly, Alfred Limblad
01:55
is the name that we keep hearing a lot
01:57
keeps being linked with Red Bull
01:59
there is a common belief
02:01
that he is ready for F1
02:03
and will be the sort of the next to take the step
02:05
would you go along with that
02:07
are you impressed by him?
02:11
been a rookie this season
02:13
he's held his own very well
02:15
for campus racing, we saw him
02:17
win at Barcelona earlier in the year
02:19
I think what people need to remember
02:21
he accelerated through the ranks
02:23
really quickly, he was only
02:25
in F4 a couple of years ago
02:27
went straight into F3
02:29
did very well, got a famous
02:31
double win at Silverstone
02:33
won four races that season
02:35
tied for the record in that year
02:37
and then went straight into F2
02:39
it's been a very quick process that Red Bull
02:41
have put him through to be ready
02:43
for this opportunity
02:45
it looks like he's going to jump straight in
02:47
and will be ready to go
02:49
so I'm excited to see what Alfred Limblad
02:51
can do, been mentored
02:53
all the way through by Olly Rowland
02:55
since he was about seven years old
02:57
which will be a nice thing for Olly Rowland
02:59
to Formula E world champion
03:01
of course to see him go through
03:03
Chris we will continue to keep an eye on him
03:05
Betty, we have you back
03:07
I believe, Betty, come in Betty Glover
03:09
Hello, I am here, Chris, sorry
03:11
I've just missed all of your magic
03:13
basically, you basically
03:15
you joined the podcast
03:17
and my internet went f*** this, she's out
03:21
No worries, I won't take it personally
03:23
Betty's internet got a finger
03:25
against Christopher Carthy, is that right?
03:27
I know, I know, he wouldn't believe what he said
03:29
he absolutely dropped a
03:35
but Betty, we're at the point
03:37
where we usually ask at this point to the podcast
03:39
about the Brazilian Grand Prix
03:43
we had a lot of rain, like we're looking like this year
03:45
Max Verstappen rose from 17th
03:47
Betty would you like to
03:49
read what you've written in the script
03:51
because I particularly enjoy it?
03:53
Max Verstappen cruised from 17th to victory
03:55
like a swan on a lake
03:57
a lovely Dutch swan
03:59
he was like a swan though, wasn't he?
04:03
but weather we're expecting to be
04:05
sort of similar, maybe not as bad
04:07
but I mean, has anyone checked it recently?
04:11
you do live weather
04:13
Jenny, regardless of wet or dry
04:15
Brazil's a cracking track, right?
04:17
overtaking possible
04:19
Brazil usually good fun
04:23
interlagos between two lakes
04:25
that's what it actually means
04:27
and I think it could be in between
04:29
two lakes, physically as well as
04:33
because it's going to rain a lot on Saturday
04:35
so we could have a repetition
04:37
of last year where the
04:39
qualifying had to take place
04:41
delayed on the morning
04:45
but obviously it's a sprint weekend
04:47
oh yes, it was chaos
04:49
and they started the race early
04:51
and even then they didn't start it early enough
04:53
so it got rain delayed, it got red flagged
04:55
there'll always be some sort of
04:57
safety car red flag issue
04:59
on the race day in Brazil
05:01
but actually Sunday's looking okay
05:03
looking dry for now
05:07
your analogy of a swan but to me
05:09
if you've played Mario Kart
05:11
it was like you suddenly got the bullet
05:13
and suddenly you were from the back
05:15
to the front in one click of
05:17
a steering wheel so he
05:19
was so dynamic and I wouldn't
05:21
be surprised if he did the same again
05:23
Chris, what's this track like?
05:25
Explain it to us and who do you think
05:27
will thrive on a track like this?
05:29
I've been super impressed with the rookies
05:31
they've done very well haven't they?
05:33
Isaac Hajar is doing so well this season
05:35
and I can see a big result
05:37
coming from someone like him
05:39
this weekend, he's got that opportunity
05:41
the rumours of him maybe jumping up
05:43
so yeah, I think we're going to see
05:45
a big result from one of the rookies
05:47
Oli Bearman is obviously in good form
05:49
at the moment currently
05:51
but yeah, this is always
05:53
a track that produces
05:55
one of those surprise results
05:57
one of the smaller teams sort of jumping up
05:59
and getting either like a top 5 finish
06:03
I'm going to stick with Isaac for this one
06:05
and say he's going to produce a big result
06:07
this weekend maybe get a top 5 finish
06:09
or something like that
06:11
Let's do top 3 then
06:13
predictions from everyone, Christian?
06:15
No, come back to me
06:17
I'm going to be boring though
06:19
I think Max will win this weekend
06:21
Jenny, I feel like you probably agree
06:23
with the max prediction there
06:25
I feel like a max clean sweep
06:29
sprint race and the win
06:31
which will shake things up again
06:33
in the championship
06:35
because there's a lot of points up
06:37
for Crambs this weekend
06:43
and I think we're going to get an outlier
06:47
and I think we're going to get an outlier
06:49
in third place, someone really
06:51
random so I am going
07:03
little Yuki on the podium, it'd be
07:05
joyous wouldn't it?
07:07
I know last year two Alpenes were on the podium
07:09
so never write anyone off
07:13
on your podium there Jenny
07:19
it's nothing personal
07:21
I'm just not convinced
07:23
right now, he's in the better mind
07:25
I would love it, I would love it
07:27
if he was able to turn things around
07:29
and really fight for this championship
07:31
because he deserves it
07:33
he deserves to be able to fight there
07:35
but I'm not convinced yet
07:37
I've said passionately
07:39
in this podcast that I don't think
07:41
British bias is a thing and I'm going to stick with that
07:43
I think Hamilton Russell Berman
07:51
It doesn't think there's no British bias here
07:53
Hamilton Russell Berman
07:59
I'm just going to mix it up
08:01
I'm going to say Oscar's going to have this mad comeback
08:03
he's going to get P1
08:05
then it's going to be Max and then it's going to be Lando
08:09
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