A caller’s story starts with building a data-driven car-pricing workflow (JBbuddy.com) and then pivots to applying the same “best price” thinking to electric cars—filtering by range and price. The conversation then turns to practical audio tech: bone-conduction earbuds for safety and comfort, plus headset mics for calls. Later, a nursing-home volunteer explains how they use AI music tools (and simple playback devices) to share personalized songs, including a “For Trevor” track.
Margaret volunteers her time at an aged care home, writing songs for the residents - and she makes them real using AI!
She's made a song for Trev too!
Smart Speakers as an intercom - can it be done? On Battery power?
Is it worth replacing your laptop battery? Interesting conundrum - and Bone conducting speakers, why?
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"and we will end up finding you the best price online
without any affiliate marketing, without taking any commission,"
They’re talking about a way to search the internet to find the cheapest listing. Instead of letting a salesperson or referral link influence the result, it’s meant to use data to compare options.
The caller is describing an online shopping approach aimed at finding the lowest price for a desired product. In car-shopping terms, this is about comparing listings across sellers using data rather than relying on sales commissions or affiliate links.
"I can't stop thinking about doing the same thing for electric cars.
Like, I know there's websites that narrow these things down,"
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The segment shifts from TV shopping to the idea of applying the same “guided flow” to electric vehicles. The caller’s key filter is driving range and price, which are two of the biggest practical decision points for EVs.
"No, no, I just want an electric car with range this long.
Oh, but it's less than this price."
For electric cars, “range” means how many miles you can drive before the battery needs charging again. It’s one of the first things people check when deciding which EV to buy.
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G'day, g'day. Great to have you company. Happy June folks.
We are five twelfths of the way through the year.
I mean, can you believe that in less than 30 days we'll be halfway through the year?
That is insane to me. It's going to hit me every week. I'll tell you right now. It's just weird.
But anyway, it is what it is. I am currently in London but we're still here bumping out the shows for you.
As I said, next week I'll be at Apple's headquarters in Cupertino for the Worldwide Developers Conference.
Looking forward to that. And this week there will be news from Amazon.
So keep your eyes on eftm.com. I'm literally just right now in the back end of the website
adding some details to the Ask Trev page because I had this thought that
you need to tell people to come to me.
So if you're on Facebook, let's be honest, that's where a lot of the, you know, how do I do this stuff happens.
You need to tell people to why don't you just ask Trev. So what I've done is it worked? Has it worked? Yes it has.
I've added a banner that has my face and the big thing got a tech question asked Trev.
And so essentially if you just go to eftm.com and click Ask Trev yourself and then copy that URL, that website address,
go back and paste that in the comments of your mate's tech question. Get them to ask me.
That's what I'm here for, right, is to help take your questions.
And so, yeah, don't be afraid to tell people to get in touch. You can advocate for me.
See, the thing is, as we continue 16 plus years into doing this talk back stuff here on the podcast,
you dear listener, you're well aware of how everything works. You don't have a question because you're savvy.
You've been listening. You've learned from me, hopefully over the years.
That said, there is no such thing as a dumb question.
So if you have a question you think is dumb, ask it because you'll be blown away by how absolutely logical it is
and how many other people might be asking just the same thing and will benefit from the same question.
And that to me is the fun part of this is other people benefiting from your question.
So give it a crack, folks. If you paste the Ask Trev URL into Facebook, you're basically sharing a picture of me.
You know what I'm going to do? publicly put it out there.
Now I'm going to put it on my Facebook page now so that people know they can ask that question.
Simple as that. Because that way we get your calls. Otherwise, what are we going to do on this show?
We do have a lot coming up on the show, though. A lot of companies want to be on the show,
so we've got a lot of interviews coming up over the couple of months ahead.
We're going to talk to Samsung, HP, the Australian ACANN, Communications Consumer Action Network, I think it stands for,
because I want to talk about the spectrum pricing. I want to talk to Hisense about their XR10 projector,
which has just been delivered to my office. There's so much I want to talk about.
So we'll talk to people. And if someone you want me to talk to, then let me know.
See, it's a two-way relationship here, this thing. You can ask me and I can benefit from that.
Producer Rob can get ideas from you. If there's something you think we should cover, just text it through.
Producer Rob sees all the texts. He can write it down. He might even use his initiative and come up with an interview on it.
But he's very busy because he's a granddad. Producer Rob's a granddad.
He's doting over a beautiful new baby, which is lovely.
So he's not 100% focused on his computer, which is absolutely as it should be.
Family First is what I say to the boys. And I say that all the time, because I believe in a person.
I will put Family First every day of the week. Now, weirdly, I work stupid hours.
I work like 14 hours a day, most days. So am I putting Family First not on a weekday, but I get home.
I sit around the dinner table, we talk rubbish, and I go to bed. But on the weekends, I'm there.
And if there's something that the kids need to be at, I'll give up my time because I can leave work easily because I'm self-employed.
So I'll say no to events because I've got something on for the family. I believe I put Family First.
But when Scott, Daniel, Rob, or whoever it is that's involved need something or need to do something,
I would prefer they put their time into their family than anything AFTM.
And speaking of family, and I'll say this here because it's like the quiet club.
And this news is now a week old, but I don't think I would have announced it anywhere yet.
But just between you and me, part of the family now is JBbuddy.com.
Do you remember a year ago? I think we had Kyle on the show.
We certainly talked about it on the radio, and I published it on AFTM JBbuddy.com,
a website created by a young Aussie guy who just wanted to be able to give you the better prices.
Find the best price for a model.
So I've been playing around with obviously the AFTM TV Search, the Buyer Guide,
and love it, still a big fan of mucking around with it, and it's great information for me.
But I've also got to work on getting the prices.
So what I'm essentially hoping to leverage through acquiring JBbuddy.com,
and by acquiring, I mean I didn't buy the domain name, I bought it all.
AFTM now owns the whole site, the database and the processes,
and Kyle is helping out on an ongoing basis for the next couple of years,
at the very least, run it, manage it, and keep it up to date.
But we've also agreed to work together over the couple of months ahead
to build out my thing and his thing into something pretty special.
So I imagine, in my mind, just between you and me,
I imagine you've got the JB...
The point of JBbuddy is I know what I want, find me the best price.
The point of the AFTM which to be able to buy is I don't know what I want, help me out.
And so you essentially come in with the first question,
do you know what you want, or do you want to help finding it?
And you cascade through the flow chart,
and we will end up finding you the best price online
without any affiliate marketing, without taking any commission,
just through sheer data power.
So welcome to the family JBbuddy.
Thank you to Kyle, who was absolutely awesome about the concept and the process.
And yeah, really, really excited to take that data and make something of it for TV buyers.
Lots of TVs are bought and sold every year.
So let's be part of that, let's be part of that conversation.
I'll be honest with you.
I can't stop thinking about doing the same thing for electric cars.
Like, I know there's websites that narrow these things down,
but they overcomplicate it.
It's like car sales and you've got to answer too many questions.
No, no, I just want an electric car with range this long.
Oh, but it's less than this price.
I don't know, I feel like there might be something in there.
But producer Rob, make a note.
It's already in my head.
It's in my personal notebook pretty heavily.
But I've got to think about how.
Anyway, I shouldn't openly think out loud.
It's bad for me.
Let's get on with the show.
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Blake's on the line.
G'day, mate.
G'day.
G'day, how are you?
Hey, really good.
What can I do for you?
Just wanted to call out.
Apologies about my voice.
That's OK.
I just want to call out about these low-conductive headphones
that I keep seeing open up everywhere.
You're getting ads for them on the internet, are you?
Flat out.
Holy Julie.
And so why do you think they'd be right for you?
Well, that's what I want to find out.
I do sort of stick with the earbud system.
Most of my day talking on the phone.
But just wondering if they're worth to change
and if they're safe in that regard with the EMS.
Oh, there's certainly no safety concern at all with them
because they're essentially exactly the same headphones
as what you've got now, except they vibrate against your skull
instead of projecting your sound into your ears.
So the waves, instead of waves coming into your ears,
it's a wave going into your bone.
Does that make sense?
So that's how the sound works.
I don't know.
I think, for me, I see them as a really valuable thing
for people that are walking and running
because they are what we call open.
Your ears are still exposed to the world.
So if someone yells out, hey, look out, you hear it.
You're going to hear it.
So that's critical for people that are on the go,
especially out running,
which is why I think they're perfect for runners.
Are you a truckie?
Is that what I understand?
Yes.
So mate, one of the things I would say to you is,
I don't love wearing in-ear headphones for a long time.
So I wonder whether, as a truckie,
they become in your ear.
It becomes uncomfortable.
So bone conducting would be brilliant in that sense
because they're just kind of sitting on your ear and your head.
They're not really in your ear or even hanging on your ear.
And I've seen some that have a little headset mic on them,
which would mean excellent quality for making phone calls
if that's what you're doing all day up in the big rig.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, for sure.
So mate, I know there's probably a lot of ads for them,
but the one I've only seen one,
I would call them traditional brand doing them.
I'm sure there's hundreds of brands doing them online,
but the brand I would recommend is Shox.
SHOKZ, Shox.
And the reason I recommend them is not just because
they're sold in JB Hi-Fi and they're a reputable brand.
I've seen their other products.
They're the one that I can see online.
They've got one with a little headset microphone at JB Hi-Fi.
Officeworks.
So I reckon that one would be awesome for the truck
because you're going to get great quality calls, comfortable,
and it's going to work great for you, mate.
Fantastic.
All right.
So it's time to go shopping, mate.
It's time to go shopping, mate.
They're like a pair of Shox and a way to waste your time
and money with those.
The ones that keep saying laboratory.
And mate, let us know how they go.
And are you talking on your phone or earbuds now?
I'm talking on the earbuds now, mate.
So then you need to make me a promise.
Producer Rob will reach out in a few weeks
and see if you bought them.
And then let's have a quick two-minute chat
to see what the quality is like.
All right?
All right, mate.
Copy that.
We'll do it.
Brilliant stuff, mate.
Stay safe out there.
Legend Trans, good on you, mate.
All the best.
No worries at all.
Blake's in the truck.
And very importantly, stay safe on the roads and focus.
So yeah, I think the bone can...
I've seen more people running with them lately.
And I think that's a safety thing, which is awesome.
I want people to be safe when they're walking, you know?
Think about the looking down at your phone
when they cross on the road thing.
That's bad enough.
But people running that can't hear the world around them.
That's a challenge, too.
So yeah, shocks, they definitely...
They make a lot of products.
So that would be a great option right there for Blake.
Great to have you company.
We'd love to hear from you.
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Margaret's on the line.
Good day, Mark.
Hi, Trevor.
Thanks for taking the call.
What can I do for you?
My absolute pleasure.
I have a question.
I'm a volunteer at a local nursing home
where I've started writing songs for the residents.
But most of the residents don't have mobile phones.
So I'm hoping you can suggest another device
that they could maybe have in their room
so they can listen to their song.
Because otherwise I have to be there and play it on my iPad.
Yeah, right.
So you can play it to them whenever you want.
But obviously, if you're not there,
which you're not all the time,
they're going to struggle.
Now, are you talking about like a speaker device
or what kind of device?
I don't know.
In the past, like long time ago,
I know my daughter had like an iPod
or there were MP3 players and that sort of thing.
But all I had was my iPad and my phone
that I can send the song to a phone.
So what else could I send the song to
so that someone could come in and maybe press the button
for them every now and then they could listen to their song.
Do you use Amazon for shopping at all?
Yes, I've got a PrimeMem should I think.
Well, I mean, you could be in a world of pain here like I am.
I'm just looking, I just logged on to mine
and I can see so many items in the shopping cart
and I realized my wife has put all these things
in the shopping cart to discuss with me
because they're clearly,
she's trying to renovate my bathroom here at the office
and I can see that's what they are.
But anyway, as I browse,
what I searched for on Amazon was speaker
because we want it to be a speaker, right?
Not a device.
MP3 because you're going to,
what you're going to create hopefully are MP3 files
that you can then put onto.
We want to put an MP3 file onto a device
like we used to do with an iPod
but we want it to be a device they can hear out of
without having to pair with Bluetooth
and all that kind of thing, right?
That's in my mind, that's the ultimate.
That's what I think would be kind of perfect.
So straight away on Amazon,
a lot of little like less than $20 speakers come up.
They look like they're going to be absolutely tiny,
tiny little things.
So look, you could buy one of those
and just see how it works
because the problem's always going to be the ease of use.
You know, you're relying on, you know, a carer
or a nurse or someone else at the facility
to press the button or whatever for them.
You can't make it too complex for them, right?
Now, the good news is you might end up with just something
that is you only put one file on it
or if you put two or three files on it,
it always just plays through the three
and they don't get to choose the song or choose the music
but it still would do the job.
But the other brand I want you to look at is Laser,
Aussie company and they make, you know,
affordable electronics normally sold
at places like Big W
and sometimes Harvey Norman and the like
and I know they have a range of products.
They've got a portable boom box.
Now, it's $100.
It looks exactly like an old school cassette boom box, right?
It will play cassettes,
but it also has a micro SD card slot.
And so again, you could save your song onto that memory card
and put it onto the boom box and play it there.
The thing is though, I mean, we're spending money
on every resident here.
It's starting to cost you a bit, right?
How many residents have you made songs for?
At the moment, about 10 out of 160.
Oh, okay. Wow. Wow. Okay.
Yes.
That's going to add up a lot.
Now, here's what I've got an idea.
Why don't I talk to the people at Laser?
Chris and Ronnie Brisket and the team at Laser.
Who make these products and ask them what their simplest
slash most affordable product would be.
Because if it's the $100 unit, fine, but whatever.
And let's get you one and see how it works.
Oh, really?
Because then we know how it works
and if that's going to be viable for you long term.
Because whether it's 10 residents or 100,
the problem will always be the people that need to operate it.
Be it the family member or the carer.
And I think you need to play with that first.
So, if you're okay with that,
I will talk to the team at Laser and I'll ask them
the simple question,
what would be their advice in this situation?
And can we get one for Margaret?
So you can use it, all right?
That would be wonderful.
Try it out anyway.
How are you writing these songs?
You're a musician.
No, no, no.
This is with AI, music AI.
I write all the lyrics.
I put them into a program and it gives me the song.
And now, hang on, I did this years,
it feels like maybe a year ago.
Well, I don't know, but there was a thing called Suno.
Is that the one thing you're using?
Yeah, that's the one I'm using.
But in this case, you're writing the lyrics, are you?
Yes, they're my lyrics.
Right, so you're writing the lyrics
and then you tell it what style of song you want.
Yes, all of that.
I spend half an hour with the resident
and ask them all their life questions
and then I go home and write the song,
come back the next day and I play it for them.
Beautiful.
You know, they get a kick out of it and so do I.
And producer Rob, she sent me a message and a link
to what I assume, because it's called For Trevor,
I assume you've written this for me.
Oh, that's your song, yes, that's your song.
Well, I'll play the whole thing at the end of the show,
but let me play just a little bit of it now, OK?
So hang on, let's have a listen to a little bit of this.
OK.
Well, that's wild. So you wrote these lyrics.
I did last night, yeah.
Listen, how long have you been following or listening to me?
I've always seen you on television for years,
years and years, it goes way back.
Wow.
Yeah, she's always got something interesting on the
today's show for sure.
That's very nice. Well, that's lovely.
I'll play the whole thing at the end of the show
so people can hear the whole song.
OK.
So, all right, we've got a plan,
because that's a lovely thing you're doing for the residents there.
So you just do this in your spare time,
because you're retired, did you say?
I'm retired, I couldn't work anymore because of my health,
but my husband's in the nursing home
and so I spend my day with him,
and then I go home and write.
Oh, wow.
So you spend your day with him,
but you also duck out and see the other residents
at the same time?
Yes, absolutely.
Oh, that's lovely.
I'm a volunteer.
That's so lovely.
And it's lovely that you can spend that time
with your husband as well, which is important.
How many songs have you written for him?
Oh, heaps and heaps.
Couldn't remember.
I've written over 300 songs altogether.
Wow.
So he comes into quite a lot of them.
How did you come across Suno?
Well, I've been writing poetry
and putting it on Facebook,
and I said to my son in law,
one came down from Alice Springs,
and I said, I'd like to hear this song.
And he said, all right, Mum,
and you looked up on Google,
and he said, this is programmed for Suno.
And would you like to try it out?
I said, yeah, why not?
And so that's how I started.
I didn't buy anything.
I did the free membership for a little while,
and then I thought,
now I'm just going to pay the subscription
because then they're my songs.
They don't belong to Suno.
Oh, gotcha.
But now they're mine.
Yeah, so I pay a small subscription every year,
and I can write that many songs.
I can't use up all the credits that I've got.
That's wonderful.
Oh, because I feel like when I tested it out
some while ago,
I paid some money for a credits or something,
and so I could churn out songs.
So is there a different plan that says
you kind of own the rights as well?
Yes, there are three different levels of plan.
Right.
So you can do the freebie,
but the songs don't belong to you.
So if you pay the next subscription up,
they do belong to you.
Then there's a higher one for pro,
which I'm not going to go that far.
But yeah, it's fun just to have a go.
It will write songs for you.
I know there's an option,
but these are all my lyrics.
Yeah, I remembered using it,
and it was like you could give it a theme or an idea,
and it would come up with the lyrics and everything.
So you're essentially using it for half the process.
I noticed in your lyrics,
because now that I'm looking at the one you sent,
there's little prompts there for, you know,
musical chorus and things like that.
Are you putting those prompts in or is that doing that?
Yes, now I have to do all that.
Right, so that you're essentially explaining the song to it.
Yes, you have to get,
otherwise you don't get what you want back.
So how long did it take you to learn,
because that's a really critical learning about AI,
is what you need to give it is more important
than actually the basics.
That's exactly right.
Probably in the last six months,
I've become a lot better at it,
knowing how to put the prompts in and what to say
that I want to get whatever back.
You have to put the right words in,
otherwise it gives you something that's totally off the planet.
And you just have to scrub that song.
But you know, I've got that many credits,
it doesn't matter.
They like to mess you up every now and then.
I'm sure just to use up the credits.
Just to use up some credits.
Yes.
But it's fun, you know,
you can just delete them, it doesn't matter.
Well, I've got 550 credits,
I don't know how many that is.
Oh!
Is that a lot or a little?
Yeah, it's 10 credits when you get two songs.
Oh jeez, okay.
But you've got a lot.
I obviously went crazy in the early days.
You have to start writing.
I'm almost certain that I've since unsubscribed or, you know,
turned it off because I see what happens in my life is
I sign up for everything because I've got to test everything.
And then, and I'm lucky I've got a business.
This is my job and my business.
So it's all a business expense.
But every now and then I go, hey, Trev,
like we should tighten the purse strings here a little bit.
And you just go through the AMX statement and you go,
hang on a minute, $12 a month here, $20 a month there.
And it really does add up.
So.
I know.
Yeah, I can imagine what I did was go give me all the credits
on day one and thought it was amazing.
Well, you might have.
I probably did.
So you must go and have a go.
I might have another play around with it and have some fun.
But well done.
Yes, have some fun.
Thank you for the little song about me.
You're welcome.
Lovely work you're doing for the residents there.
And I hope your husband's doing okay.
And we, producer Rob will reach out and we'll get your address details
and we'll get the people at Laser to get in touch and get you
something to play with and see whether that's going to help.
That's great.
Oh, I'm so excited.
Thank you very much for your time.
No worries at all.
Thanks for the chat.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
No worries at all.
Lovely.
What a lovely thing she's doing.
And you know, it's heartbreaking to have to think about going
and visiting your own partner in a home every single day.
But then she's taken that and she's doing some lovely things
for other people as well.
That's just lovely.
So let's try and help Margaret out as much as we can there.
And the Chris and the boys will absolutely send us something
and we'll see if that's going to be maybe give her some sense
of what might work for the longer term as well.
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Laurie's on the line.
Good day, Laurie.
Hi, Trevor.
Good morning.
What can I do for you?
Look, I have had problems with my Asus laptop,
which I have owned for about seven years.
And I think it's on its last legs.
It doesn't want to do what I want it to do.
So is it slow or is it running out of battery?
What's happening to it?
Yes, it's slow.
Not only slow, it's the battery.
That is a big problem.
I have to keep it charged to power all day long if I'm using the laptop.
Do you know anything about the model number?
Yes, I do.
It's a 509F, Asus 509F.
Because I did ring Asus at one of their branches, I think,
based at 7Ls.
And the guy said to me, you can get a battery,
but we first have to check it out and this and that and the other.
And I thought by the time he checks it out,
I will have covered a quarter of the cost of getting a new laptop.
And that's the challenge because back in the day,
remember when laptops were like an inch and a half thick
when they first came out,
there was like two clips and the battery would come out
and they actually often came with a second battery
so that you could get through the day.
You're right.
Whereas these days, they're kind of wired in.
So it's not something you can do yourself is the bottom line there.
Do you know how much that laptop cost you back seven years ago?
About seven years.
I paid about 1100, I think.
So it was a decent valued laptop.
And what do you feel like forgetting the current problem?
Do you feel like you got good value out of it over seven years?
I do.
I have to say I did and, you know, I have no regrets
if it's kind of come to its old age.
You know what?
I appreciate your foresight there
because that's what I was getting at, essentially.
I think you're right.
You can replace the battery.
And it may, let's say the battery replacement,
the physical battery is a couple of hundred dollars
and the labor is a couple of hundred dollars.
Let's say you're in for five or 600 dollars, right?
Maybe even a little bit less.
That's half the price of what you paid for it.
And the reason that doesn't sound like a smart move
is because we've come so far with laptops in seven years.
I would argue we've come so far with laptops in two years.
What do you mainly do on the laptop?
What do you use it for?
I'll tell you, because I've retired,
I do mainly my Word documents.
I keep track of my accounts,
which is my payment of bills, bank statements, whatever,
on an Excel spreadsheet.
So I know I have all my paperwork in chronological order.
And of course, just emails that I get from friends and family.
And that's basically what I use it for.
And how big is the screen on it, do you know?
15.6 inches.
So here's the thing,
a modern Asus brand new 15 inch Intel Pentium
256 gigabytes of hard drive space is 800 bucks.
Oh, wow.
For a brand new, and this is a nice big laptop,
it's got a stupid thing to observe,
but it has a number pad on the side of the keyboard
so you can type numbers on the side, you know,
like a proper big screen keyboard.
That would be the cheapest one I'd want you to get
because anything less than that,
there's probably going to be some form of compromise.
Outside of that, there's obviously a lot of money
you could spend a lot of different amounts of money
on a computer these days.
But an interesting observation would be,
in my view, one of the most beautiful laptops on the market today
is the Asus ZenBook A14.
I think in fact, I don't have my magazine near me,
but I'm pretty sure we gave this best laptop of the year last year
in our awards.
Now, it's normally $2,000.
It's currently on sale at JB Hi-Fi at 1,600, 1599.
Now, there's a couple of things about this device.
Big hard drive, very thin, thin and beautiful.
It's only a 14-inch screen, but it's a beautiful OLED screen.
It has this stunning feel to it.
It's got this lovely feeling on the outside.
It doesn't feel like a cheap laptop at all.
And because it has what's called a Qualcomm processor instead of Intel,
the battery on this thing will last 20, maybe 30 hours.
This computer will last you the same.
It'll be a five- or seven-year laptop for you once again.
I have no question about that.
And look, that's an extra investment I hear.
So I'm presenting you two options.
$800 for a lovely...
It's a beautiful... Have a look at these on JB Hi-Fi.
It's a lovely-looking laptop with all the ports and HDMI's
and everything you might need if you needed
a few extra little bells and whistles.
$800, lovely.
But double that, and you are getting what I think...
And I remember my wife is not heavily engaged
in what I do for a job right, but she notices things.
And she was looking at my magazine last year
where I gave this device an award.
And then a few weeks later, she said to me,
oh, my God, Oprah has given this...
Has her best laptop of the year.
Oprah Winfrey people.
So if it's good enough for Oprah,
it's good enough for Ferrari, I reckon.
Yeah, I guess so.
Trevor, one question about the big hard drive you mentioned.
Is it 1TB?
Because this is what I have at the moment.
The ASUS ZenBook A14 that I'm looking at is 512.
How much of the 1TB are you actually using?
I haven't used a lot, because like I said,
I don't need a lot of...
I actually store all my data, my important data
on an external hard drive,
which means if anything happens to the laptop,
I haven't lost everything.
And look, that's why I would...
I'd be amazed if you needed 256.
I'd be amazed.
So if you were able to get the 512,
it'd be a nice balance between what you have now
and what you really need.
And stay in that habit of using
external hard drive for your important documents.
Oh, yeah, I do.
But at the same time, Laurie,
have you got any cloud storage available to you?
No, because I use my hard drive,
so I don't know much about cloud storage.
I have to admit, I'm out of the workforce
for the last 10, 12 years, you know.
Well, I want you to play around.
It sounds like you've got
probably Microsoft 365 for your office.
Yes, I do.
That will come with, I don't know how much,
but it will come with an amount of storage in one drive.
Right, okay.
And I think one drive is a really nice integration
of the cloud, because it appears
in a new computer in Windows 11,
it appears like on the left-hand side of the file explorer,
it just looks like another hard drive.
You remember how back in the day,
we used to have an A drive, a C drive,
and a B drive, and whatever.
These days, you know, they don't really show that,
but it's still there.
But essentially, one drive appears
like it's a hard drive on your computer,
and you drag a file over there,
or you save by default
all of your important spreadsheets and documents
to one drive.
You can still back them up to your external hard drive.
But by default, they're saved in the cloud.
And so if someone stole your laptop
and you got a new one,
you logged into your Microsoft account,
all your files are still there.
Now, tell me something. I do have one drive.
I have absolutely no idea
what it stood for.
It shows up every time I open a Word document.
That's what it is.
Because they want you to default to it.
Look, it's a bit frustrating,
but if you made the decision
that from the time I get my new computer,
I'm going to put my folders.
So in my documents,
I'm assuming you've got folders for different things.
What you do is you store those folders
in your one drive.
And so by default,
when you save a spreadsheet, you go one drive,
you know, family planning, one drive,
Christmas party, whatever, you know.
And it doesn't make
any difference to you on the computer.
But whenever you've got
any connection available, it'll synchronize that
up to the cloud.
And then, hey Presto, you're good to go.
And you'll never lose that file again.
And remember, you can still
sync it to your hard drive,
your little portable hard drive as well.
Yes, yes, that's what I do on a regular basis.
And one last question is
how do I get all my data
transferred from the old
C drive to the new one?
What do I do? Do I have to go
to a particular computer shop
and get it done?
When you say data, what do you mean?
Your documents?
Yes, my documents that are on the C drive.
How do I transfer them across
to the new laptop?
Well, you've got two options. Well, you've got three options.
One, you could take it to someone
and they will do that for you at a price.
Two, you've got yourself an external
hard drive. Just drop them there.
Put them on the external hard drive.
Or use this
as your moment to start
using one drive.
Okay, right, right.
And here's the number one thing for someone that's using
the cloud, because the great thing is your computer's not dead.
So when you buy a new one, you're going to have them
sitting side by side, which is great.
Yes, yes.
So you don't have to panic about losing something.
But if you, just tonight,
this afternoon today, whenever you want,
just create a single folder in one drive
and move a few files
in there, a couple of spreadsheets or whatever you like.
Yes, yes.
And then an hour later, open up the internet
just in a browser
and go to one drive on the internet,
log in and see if you can see those files.
Okay.
Because if you can see those files
via a web browser,
it means they're in the cloud.
And that's all you need to do.
And when you get your new computer,
you just log into your Microsoft account
and it will synchronize all that one drive
onto the new computer for you.
Okay.
So one drive is like another folder.
Exactly.
Except it's another folder,
but it's in a building outside of your home.
Okay, I see.
And I need to create a login
ID to get access to one drive.
No, it's just your Microsoft one.
It's probably already logged in.
It's probably already logged in because
you have
Microsoft 365 and all those things.
So if you go to,
actually, I'm going to guess here,
but I think it's OneDrive.com
because I don't really use it that much myself.
If you go to OneDrive.com,
mine has automatically logged me in as Trevor Long
using my Microsoft account.
And I can see in here
a bunch of files
that I've saved in my OneDrive.
There's some company reports I've done
in different things because I've been using
a Windows computer at the time.
Easy as pie.
It's just another folder,
but it's not on your computer.
Right.
And if for some reason I want to remove
the old hard drive that I have
on the current ASUS laptop,
I can do that, isn't it?
Remove it physically?
Yeah, physically, and then just smash it
up after I've done all the copying
from the C drive
to the external hard drive.
If you've got a screwdriver and pulled
that computer apart with all your nails,
with the greatest
respect, I don't think you'd know which was
the hard drive in there. No, I don't
because you know what happened?
I rang Bunnings one time and they
told me what to do. They literally
sent me a picture and I gave it to
my brother-in-law who got it out for me.
Here's what I'd do.
I'd go to Bunnings.
I'd buy a set of safety glasses
and a pair of safety gloves
and a sledge hammer
and I would have all the fun in the
world on the driveways smashing that laptop.
Oh, good on you.
Well done.
Laurie, if you take that laptop
to your local e-waste recycling
centre, ain't no
one there going to look at the hard drive. Trust me.
Oh, really?
Don't worry about it.
People scare you to death about having
the hard drive seen in all laptops.
Laurie, do you work in the Defence Department?
No, I don't.
Do you work for the State Government?
No, I work for the State Government.
Do you have State Government secrets on that laptop?
No.
No one's looking at you through a window
waiting for you to throw that laptop out.
Trust me.
We do have a lot of recycling
services.
Do the right thing with it.
Send it into e-waste recycling
and if you want to
open it up and try and remove the hard drive yourself.
And it's not that hard if you can locate
which is which. No, it's not.
No, it's not because Burning's actually
sent me a picture step by step.
My brother-in-law's pretty good.
He got it out for me.
Alright, the ASUS ZenBook
A14 would be an absolute cracker if you got it.
Yeah, so the ZenBook
A14, alright.
Enjoy.
If you go now, you'll get it nice and cheap.
Yeah, actually as you said
it's now the end of financial years
so I may shop around.
Good idea. Good on you, Laurie.
Great to hear from you. Cheers.
No worries at all. Lovely to hear from you.
So there you go. We've solved that problem.
I think seven years is a good
number for a Windows laptop
and I do think critically
that point about fixing
that now
gives you access
so changing the battery
gives you access to a seven-year-old laptop
very different to a seven-year-old phone
or five-year-old phone
because we've come so far in the last few years
with laptops. So I think
the current laptop is a much better investment
than the repair.
Tech, cars, lifestyle
this is the EFTM podcast
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Great to have you company. Bruce is on the line.
Good day, Bruce. How are you, Trevor?
I'm really good. What can I do for you?
I have a Google Nest
and smart speakers in my house
and the problem is
my wife says if she's in the bathroom
and something happens, she calls out
I can't hear her downstairs.
So what I'm looking for
is a speaker
preferably a battery powered speaker
to put in the bathroom
so we can broadcast if she needs help
or I need help. Hang on.
So it has to be a smart speaker?
Well any sort of speaker
that can broadcast.
That can broadcast as in a message from
as like an intercom? Yes.
So I mean it's going to have to be a smart speaker.
I can't think of another way of doing it, frankly.
But you're all in on the Google system
are you? Yes.
They used the original
Google Home
which was a funny looking cylindrical thing
with an angled top.
There was aftermarket accessories
that came out for it
that allowed you to put it on a battery.
Yes.
The biggest problem we've got is
are they even selling Google speakers
in Australia anymore?
Well I've got the Google Nest
and the Google smart speakers
but I've had
looked online and I really can't find anything.
That's what worries me.
I mean I've got the system and it's
I can't get another speaker.
Yeah. Honestly
Google's just got this weird thing where they've just
almost abandoned the market. I feel like they're waiting
for the fullness of
technology to hit the speakers so that we get
Gemini with the speakers as opposed to
just
what it is now. We're very
not conversational speaker.
However
I would argue
and I'm almost certain as I Google it right now
yes there are
plenty of products made for Amazon Alexa
speakers.
So I'm just looking now
at what this is. It's a battery
base
because look mate
Amazon Echo speakers are sensational.
Okay.
And here's the great thing. You can have both.
There's nothing. We've got a Google speaker in the
dining room which pretty much only gets
used to set timers while we're
cooking and it's got a really
big clock on it. So when my
wife's aunt who's intellectually disabled is around
she's always like when's lunch and we're like look at the clock
and it's a big digital clock and she can see that it's
not 12 o'clock yet.
But in the lounge room we've got an Alexa speaker
for playing music and things.
So you can have both.
I wasn't aware of that because I've used
my Google Nest for my
broadband
and I didn't know you could mix.
Yep.
100%. So basically
what do you use the Google speakers
for?
Just basically playing music.
There's one in a room where my wife does
yoga. I use that
and I've got
a display downstairs with some photos
on it. Yeah.
That's about it. And a doorbell.
Right. So the only time
it becomes complex having two
is when one can do
something that the other can't. So for example
if you have a set of smart lights that
only one can control. But the good thing is
normally that happens across Apple versus the others
because there's some stuff that's only home kit
compatible or that's not home kit compatible.
But I've never found a product
that isn't both Google and Alexa compatible.
Even a smart light from
Bunnings is normally going to have Google and Alexa
compatibility. It just means you've got to set it up twice.
So if you had a smart light
you can set it up twice. Your
Nest doorbell camera is still going to be
answered through the Nest app
or the Google Home app on your phone
and it's going to show up on that screen in the
house. It's not going to show up on an Alexa screen.
But right now I can already see
that, mate, if you go to Amazon, an Amazon
Echo speaker, they're like under a hundred bucks, right?
Yes. And a quick search
online. I found a company called Mission
which make these battery bases
for Echo speakers
and there's each of them.
There might be in the US, so
I don't know, we need to find a local
option. But I suspect if you spend a little
bit of time on the Amazon
website
you'll find a bunch of
battery options.
OK, great. And that, mate, you just got to set
up one and the great thing is the Amazon
if you bought two
you can do, do they call it
announce? There's a term they use
for it on the Alexa app
and it allows you to speak to the other speaker,
right? OK. And that's all you're doing is
just announcing to the other speaker
what it is you want said and it gets said on air.
Weirdly, I did it on the
today's show, I don't know, eight years ago and I
weirdly saw the segment the other day
come up in a YouTube memory
or something and it was
yeah, it was just a simple demo. I've just
on the phone, I spoke to the
phone and then it came up
and spoke what I said
it transmitted my voice
onto the speaker sitting on the studio. So
very easy to do
great little system
and you can do it from one speaker to another
so you can say, I'm not going to say the
term Alexa, you can say hey to the speaker
and
announce this to the bedroom or announce this to the
bathroom
and it will announce it just to that room.
Great, thank you for your help, I appreciate it.
All right, buddy, anytime, no worries at all.
Thank you. Thanks, mate, cheers.
Yeah, I mean, there's something weird
about, I mean, let's look at the Google Store
Google Store because
it used to be
that they would sell a bunch of products
and you remember that they had, they were
the first smart home here.
Speakers, let's click on speakers.
Nest Mini, you can still buy Nest Mini.
Is this Australia though? Oh, I don't know, it's
actually things were in Australia.
I'm going to change it to
AU
and AU and it still
comes back to GB. So there is a Nest Mini
for $79
dollars.
All of them are out of stock.
Like it's
listed on the website,
but it's out of stock.
That's the biggest tease ever.
All of them, out of stock, the Big Nest
Audio and the Nest Mini, all
out of stock.
Completely useless.
Goodness me.
You can't win with these people.
So yeah, I would, the displays in stock,
let's have a look at that.
Hub Max, out of stock.
Hub
2nd Gen, out of stock.
Google, just
unbelievably out of stock.
Google, next I'm searching
J.B. Hypo now. Nope, no smart speakers.
Isn't that wild?
No smart speakers from Google.
They're just letting Amazon run this country.
And people
like Bruce are just going to go and get
Amazon speakers because they're easy to set up
and done.
Well, good luck to them.
But that's a great solution there for Bruce.
Thank you for listening. Another great
show. And I made a promise there
while talking to Margaret.
We played a bit of the song. We could play the whole song.
Why not? She wrote these lyrics.
Margaret
wrote these lyrics. And what a wonderful
human being she is
for everything she's doing
in that facility, for those
lovely people.
So she's gone to the trouble of writing
this for me. I think we should absolutely play
the whole thing.
So thank you, Margaret, for this. Thank you
for taking the time and thank you to Suno
for putting a sound
to this. And I can tell you, I think
from what I can see here, I'm just
looking at the thing.
Summary. I'm going to copy this
summary so I can read it easier.
It says
her instructions on this.
We're kind of cheating here a bit. We're learning Margaret's
vibe. But her instructions
are follow the instructions.
Free flowing lyrics.
Versus beautiful engaging music.
Medium to slightly upbeat tempo.
Very deep, rich,
smooth, beautiful female voice.
Sing a songwriter with a clear
diction. Love song.
Clicking percussion sounds, breathing
noises, choir, speaking
voice, male vocals, clicking
fermata, vibrato,
classical, epic, American accent
clapping. That's a lot of...
Sorry, those are negatives.
Love song. No
clicking, no percussion sound,
no breathing noises, no choir, no speaking
voice, etc. So there you go.
So you can remove things from its
thought as well. That's very cool.
Knowing that she wrote the lyrics
and what I meant in my conversation
with her is she has these little notes in there
which says intro verse, beautiful engaging
music. Then it says chorus, multiple
female voices singing louder.
Then it says, like it's even got giggling
in where she has the giggling sound.
Then again, chorus, verse, etc.
So and musical outro, fade.
They're the instructions. It's pretty
detailed. So she's learnt
over time how to
essentially manipulate the AI
to give her the result she wants.
So without any further ado,
here is the entire version.
I think it's about four minutes and nine seconds of
For Trevor
written by Margaret
composed by Suno.
So
you
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