Kelly and Liz kick things off with personal updates: one host is dealing with sudden chronic hives and is trying a low-histamine, no-carb, limited-dairy diet, while also juggling family health concerns. The conversation then shifts to weekend “after action reports,” including a St. Louis Zoo trip (go early, bring water/coolers, pack a blanket, consider a double stroller) and a farm update featuring a new trampoline, two piglets, and plans for chicks and lambs. They debate wellness trends like vibration plates vs. hopping, and a peep-toe heel comeback. The highlight is an interview with Jen Moran, CEO/president of the Chicago Auto Show, on why in-person auto shows matter, how family zones and immersive manufacturer activations boost buying decisions, and why some brands skip shows.
In case you're not on the Youtube private channel, Kelly has been on another health journey. Hives have appeared everywhere and now she's on a brand new diet that is going to make Easter very boring this year. But not all is wrong as two new additions to the farm that is bringing plenty of excitement: a trampoline and piglets!
Meanwhile, Lizz has an After Action Report of the St. Louis zoo and the nearby cathedral. What is an "After Action Report"? This is definitely an idea you're going to want to steal for your family.
There's a new fashion trend on Instagram and it's going to humble the Gen Z girls. For years they have had the pleasure of walking around in sneakers and comfortable boots. They don't know what we had to go through dancing on tables in heels. Now they will know our pain!
Then it's on to a very special interview with Jen Morand, the woman in charge at the Chicago Auto Show. She will talk about who goes to the auto show, why they go to the auto show and spills the tea on the manufacturers that don't show up.
Speaking of auto shows, get tickets to tour the New York Auto Show with Kelly here.
"I just don't really think like pelvic floor therapy is something I need because like it's just never, I've never noticed it as an issue."
Pelvic floor therapy is physical therapy for the muscles in your pelvic area. A therapist helps you strengthen or relax those muscles so certain problems can improve.
Pelvic floor therapy is a type of physical therapy focused on the muscles of the pelvic region. It’s often used to address issues like incontinence, pelvic pain, or recovery after pregnancy, and it can include exercises or biofeedback.
"I'm never going to buy a vibration plate. I'm just like, that's one wellness trend."
A vibration plate is a machine that shakes while you stand on it. Some people use it to exercise with less impact, but it’s not a magic fix and results can vary.
A vibration plate is a fitness device that creates whole-body vibration while you stand or do exercises on it. People use it as a low-impact way to stimulate muscles, but the evidence and benefits vary by goal and individual.
"I think there's something called lymphatic drainage. I think that's the best way I've heard."
Lymphatic drainage is a way to help your body move lymph fluid. People talk about it for reducing swelling and helping recovery, but the exact benefits depend on what’s being done.
Lymphatic drainage refers to helping move lymph fluid through the lymphatic system. It’s often discussed in wellness contexts as a way to reduce swelling or support recovery, though specific claims depend on the method used (massage, exercises, or device-based approaches).
"I feel the same way about red light masks. Like before you go buy a red light mask, like have you like done your whole skincare routine every day for a week?"
A red light mask is a skincare device that shines special light on your face. People use it to help with skin concerns, but it usually takes regular use to see changes.
A red light mask is a consumer device that uses red (and sometimes near-infrared) light for skincare, often marketed for reducing inflammation and improving skin appearance. The discussion frames it as something that may work, but only if you follow a routine consistently.
"[1043.9s] Um, yeah, things that make you go, hmm.
[1046.6s] Today's episode is brought to you by Quince.
[1048.5s] These days I'm all about quality over quantity."
Quince is a company that sells clothes. They’re advertising that their basics are made with nicer materials and are priced more reasonably than some other brands.
Quince is a direct-to-consumer brand that sells clothing and home goods, often positioned as “quality for less” compared with traditional retailers. In this ad, the host highlights wardrobe staples made with premium fabrics like European linen.
"They were Nike Air Force ones.
[1435.7s] They wore sneakers with their cute outfit"
Nike Air Force 1s are a popular type of sneaker by Nike. In the conversation, it’s just being used as an example of the shoes people wear.
Nike Air Force 1s are a classic basketball-style sneaker from Nike. They’re widely worn as everyday casual shoes, so mentioning them signals a specific Gen Z/college-era fashion choice rather than performance footwear.
"We take you around the auto show. We see all the cars. It's basically like a bunch of mini car buying consultations all happening."
An auto show is like a big car showcase. Brands bring their newest cars (and sometimes prototypes) so you can walk around, look closely, and see what’s new.
An auto show is an event where automakers bring current models, concept cars, and new technologies to display to the public. People often use it to compare vehicles side-by-side, learn what’s coming next, and get inspiration for future purchases.
"But it actually stands for the Midwest Automotive Media Association, of which we're all a part of, where we get to test drive fun vehicles and talk to journalists and manufacturers."
MAMA stands for the Midwest Automotive Media Association. It’s a group that puts together car events for people in automotive media, like journalists, where they can drive cars and talk to the companies making them.
The Midwest Automotive Media Association (MAMA) is an industry group that organizes events for automotive journalists and media members. In the episode, it’s referenced as the organization behind the “mama event” where they test drive vehicles and meet manufacturers.
"our attendees love the fact that you were there and, you know, just the fact that you stayed for the VIP tours and you guided people around the auto show,"
VIP tours are special guided visits at events. Instead of wandering around on your own, you get a more curated route and usually access to more interesting areas.
VIP tours are special, invite-only or premium experiences at auto shows that typically include access to areas the general public can’t easily reach and guided walkthroughs. They often help attendees focus on specific brands, debuts, or technical displays.
"I thought the manufacturers really brought some great
activations this year.
Yes."
“Activations” are the fun things a brand sets up to get you involved—like demos, games, or interactive displays. The goal is to make people remember the brand, not just look at cars.
In auto-show and marketing language, “activations” are branded experiences or events designed to engage attendees—often hands-on demos, games, or interactive exhibits. They’re used to create memorable brand moments beyond just displaying cars.
"...we decided to add actually a family zone where we have kids can test drive vehicles. They can hop behind the wheel of power wheels while their parents hop behind the wheel of vehicles outdoors."
A test drive is when you try a car before buying it. It helps you see if it feels right to you, and here they’re making a kid-friendly version for families.
A test drive is when a customer sits in and drives a vehicle to evaluate how it feels and performs in real conditions. In this segment, it’s used as an attraction for kids and families, mirroring the real buying experience in a kid-safe way.
"They can hop behind the wheel of power wheels while their parents hop behind the wheel of vehicles outdoors."
Power Wheels are little electric cars kids can sit in and drive. They’re like a safe, kid-sized version of a real car.
Power Wheels are battery-powered ride-on toys for children that mimic driving a real vehicle. They’re commonly used at family events so kids can “drive” while adults test real cars nearby.
"they can remove this like in-person aspect of the car buying process. And I just don't think you can buy a car without sitting in it."
“In-person” shopping means you go see the car yourself. The idea here is that you really need to sit in it and feel how it works, not just look at photos.
“In-person” car shopping means physically inspecting the vehicle and, ideally, test driving it. The discussion implies that touch and seating/visibility feedback are hard to replicate online, especially for families evaluating comfort and fit.
"whether it's a gas-powered vehicle to hybrid, plug-in hybrid, any powertrain, size, SUV, large SUV, compact vehicle."
A hybrid uses a gas engine and an electric motor together. It often gets better gas mileage than a regular gas car.
A hybrid vehicle uses both an internal-combustion engine and an electric motor/battery. The system can improve fuel economy and reduce emissions, and the driving feel can differ from a purely gas car.
"whether it's a gas-powered vehicle to hybrid, plug-in hybrid, any powertrain, size, SUV, large SUV, compact vehicle."
Your powertrain is the car’s “moving system”—the parts that make it go. It can be gas, hybrid, or electric, and each one drives differently.
A powertrain is everything that produces and delivers power to move the vehicle—typically the engine (or motors), transmission, driveshaft/axles, and related control systems. When people say “compare powertrains,” they’re usually comparing how different technologies feel and perform.
"because I think when a family starts the car buying process, there's so many options. It's so overwhelming."
The car buying process is everything from picking a car to test-driving it and signing the paperwork. The point here is that it can feel overwhelming because there are so many choices.
The car buying process includes researching options, visiting showrooms, talking with salespeople, arranging test drives, and completing paperwork. The segment highlights how families can feel overwhelmed because there are many choices and steps before they can actually drive and decide.
"...and now I'm actually going home with a Kia like they were dead set on buying a Kia versus an Audi..."
Kia is a South Korean automaker that has grown quickly in the U.S. and is known for offering strong value and a broad lineup. In this segment, Kia represents the alternative brand a shopper switched to after test driving an Audi.
"They love the features, you know, the range and all of that."
Range means how far the car can go before it needs more power. For electric cars, it’s a big deal because it affects whether the car works for your daily driving and trips.
Range is how far a vehicle can travel before needing to recharge or refuel, and it’s especially important for EVs and plug-in hybrids. It’s a key factor in whether the car fits your typical commute and road-trip expectations.
"I think that more manufacturers are just investing in ride and drives and experiential events and that's really what an auto show is."
A ride and drive is when a car company lets you actually drive their cars for a short time. It’s usually set up like an event, not just a normal dealership test drive.
A “ride and drive” is an automotive event where manufacturers invite people to test-drive vehicles, often on a set route or course. It’s meant to replace or complement traditional auto-show displays by letting customers experience the car firsthand.
"they would do the auto show activations
[2705.8s] and then invite the influencers for a weekend in Chicago.
[2709.7s] And it's two birds, one stone."
In this context, “influencers” are creators with an audience who attend auto shows and share their experiences. Manufacturers often invite them to drive marketing reach and social media coverage.
"I've always, I've been not begging,
[2714.7s] but I've tried multiple times to try to get a manufacturer
[2717.7s] to host me and like a meet and greet at an auto show.
[2722.2s] Cause I'm like, I'm already going to be there."
A “meet and greet” is a short, organized interaction—often with a brand representative, designer, or sometimes the vehicle itself—aimed at creating a personal connection. At auto shows, it’s commonly used to turn marketing into an experience that generates content.
"And I love for as much as I like the cars, I really like, my real passion is the car selection and the car buying process."
Car selection means picking the right car for you. Instead of just grabbing the coolest-looking one, it’s about choosing what fits your life—like how much space you need and how you’ll drive.
“Car selection” is the decision process of narrowing down which vehicles make sense for your lifestyle and priorities—like budget, space, fuel economy, and driving needs. It’s often where buyers can save money by avoiding mismatched trims or options they don’t actually use.
"They're literally putting car, we had Britax as you know, Kelly, Britax at our auto show. They were putting car seats in the vehicles, comparing, doing demos."
Britax makes child car seats. Here, they’re showing how those seats fit inside different cars so parents can see what’s practical and safe for their daily life.
Britax is a well-known child-safety seat brand. In the segment, they’re demonstrating how car seats fit and work in different vehicles, which is a practical way to evaluate real-world usability beyond just styling or specs.
"[3005.0s] they try to engage people in different ways, but I will say Subaru.
[3007.7s] I mean, if you know, I mean, Subaru just comes in.
[3014.2s] And we love it."
Subaru is a car brand. Here they’re talking about how Subaru sets up its auto-show display in a way that really pulls people in and keeps them interested.
Subaru is a Japanese automaker known for marketing that leans into outdoor adventure and community events. In this segment, the hosts highlight Subaru’s auto-show booth as an example of strong customer engagement.
"[3014.2s] And we love it. And the consumers love it too,
[3017.1s] because you literally go into their exhibit. And for those of you who haven't been
[3020.1s] to an auto show or don't know what we're talking about,
[3022.3s] it is a fully immersive experience where they call the five senses."
They’re describing an auto-show setup that tries to feel like a real place, not just a car behind glass. The goal is to make you experience it with your senses so you remember it.
A fully immersive auto-show experience uses multiple sensory elements (sight, sound, touch, smell) to make visitors feel like they’re “in” the product world. This is a marketing strategy to increase time-on-site and emotional connection.
"[3060.4s] I also think that, you know, Ford and Jeep are just,
[3064.2s] they're killing it with their trash."
Ford is a big car company. The hosts are saying Ford’s auto-show displays are really engaging and fun to visit.
Ford is a major American automaker with large, high-budget auto-show activations. Here, it’s mentioned as doing especially well with themed attractions tied to specific models.
"It's truly an amazing experience, but you get a sense of like how that could really feel, you know, off-off-road if you are into off-roading. But if you're not, it's just a fun, just a fun ride to take in the auto show."
Off-roading means driving on rough, unpaved, or trail-type surfaces instead of normal roads. It changes how the car feels and how it handles bumps and uneven ground.
Off-roading refers to driving on unpaved or uneven surfaces like dirt, rocks, mud, and trails. The speakers are contrasting the experience of off-road capability with a more casual auto-show ride, implying how terrain changes the feel of the vehicle.
"I mean, them having the Bronco like really has just kind of like made their whole display more interesting because it's allowed them to like lean way more off-roading in like their entire display than I think they ever normally would have."
The Ford Bronco is Ford’s off-road SUV. If it’s the centerpiece of their display, it usually means the whole booth is themed around going over rough terrain.
The Ford Bronco is Ford’s modern off-road SUV built to handle trails and uneven terrain. Mentioning it in the context of the display suggests Ford used the Bronco to anchor an off-roading theme and showcase capability through the show setup.
"because you didn't see an Audi or you didn't see a Mercedes or, you know, a name that Land Rover name that luxury brand"
Audi is a luxury car brand from Germany. The host mentions it because some people get upset when they don’t see Audi at certain auto shows.
Audi is a German luxury automaker known for models across sedans, SUVs, and performance trims. In the segment, it’s used as an example of a brand that some attendees expect to see at auto shows.
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Welcome to the Carpool podcast with Kelly because we were like, we're not cute. We're not cute. We're not cute. We're not cute.
And she goes, you're right.
And Liz.
And these girls have never had to dance on a table in heels.
And I think they're going to be in for a really harsh reality check when they realize that shoes are not comfortable.
Your mom time off starts now.
Welcome back to the Carpool podcast with Kelly and Liz.
Hey, Liz.
Hey, Cal. How are you?
How am I? Do you really want to know or do you want me to give you like a PC answer?
Like a, like a, yeah, just kind of like, I'm great. How are you?
Yeah, I'm great. How are you?
Okay. No, I'm good too. Thank you for asking.
Good.
No, what's going on? I mean, we, I know what's going on.
I know we need to divulge it like everything going on in your life, but
Well, if you're a part of the car mom crew channel on Instagram, you know what's going on.
First of all, I love having like a private channel where I can just like word vomit.
So I don't think I'm a part of this channel.
I don't think I need to be. I think I get the private, I think I get the thoughts before they hit.
Well, I started my private channel just like talking about my sugar fast because I got some feedback that you guys were tired of it.
And it's kind of evolved into like some newer health issues that I've been having, which is like chronic hives, which is like so fun.
Yeah.
And so now I've kind of been chatting about it on there.
Now here's what I don't want DMs about. Yes, we checked our house for mold. So let's move on from that.
Okay.
It's just like, that seems to be the, if you say you have hives like, it's the mold. It's like, it's actually not.
Yeah, it's not. We've, we've, we've ruled that out.
Um, I'm just like full of a lot of histamine for the first time.
And is it because of my allergic reaction is this is that it doesn't matter. I'm the CEO of my health. I'm figuring it out.
I'm working with my doctors, but then my doctors actually were like, Hey, we don't really want to work with you anymore because you can just take all this medicine.
And I'm like, don't you want to know like why I'm 32 years old and I've never had hives and now I have hives and they were like, no.
No.
Okay.
Thanks.
Yeah, that's, that's the health system.
And it's, I'm not going to get on my high horse about that because I think that they're also, I know they're overwhelmed.
I know that that's maybe not their specialty.
And I'm not like married. Like I'm not like a, I'm just curious why I've developed them out of nowhere.
Yeah.
And you just would be like, you understand science. So like, what do you think it could be? Like, you don't know where to start.
So anyway, I have now started working with like more of like a functional medicine doctor and I'm just like trying a new diet.
And I promise this is, I promise, I promise, I promise I'm not going to make this my personality.
I promise I'm going to keep this to myself for the most part.
But I just want to let everyone know that now I am on like a very insane, like kind of like low histamine, no carb, limited dairy diet.
And that does unfortunately mean I will not be partaking in like a fun, like a sugar filled Easter.
Like I was hoping to when I started my sugar free journey.
Yeah.
And if you think that sounds sad for me, it does, but it's not nearly as sad as Hives.
So I'm doing like a 12 week program and I'll see you guys later and I'll keep it to myself.
I'm sorry.
It's okay.
Mentally, I'm in a good headspace for a couple of reasons.
One, I am not really, luckily I like stood the sugar fast.
Like taking the carbs out of my diet basically has not been that big of a deal.
And two, I need something that's going to, I'm hopeful.
And three, I have such a new found sympathy and love for my son Fred.
And I kind of think me and Fred, like now I'm kind of able to like try and I'm working.
I don't want to get into Fred's health issues because I'm working on that too.
But now that me and Fred are kind of like doing something together, like I, I'm very
grateful to kind of be brought to his level and not even his level because this is much
more severe than mine.
Yeah.
But you can kind of just understand what he's going through a little bit more.
Yeah.
How uncomfortable it is.
And it is crazy because I feel like you have, you're so like into getting this diet figured
out for not for like just losing weight or like the traditional ways that you might go
on a diet, but you're like, no, I don't, it's not about that.
You're like, I can't be this itchy.
I can't feel this way.
So like you're like screw it.
Like I don't need a carb.
Like I'm fine.
People thinking like mine and Fred's are related.
I don't think mine and Fred's are related because Fred said XMS and she was six months
old.
Yeah.
He's three.
So like he had it in our old house.
He had it in our new house.
I think that mine is just that I, I think mine, I think mine was brought on by just a lot
of chronic stress.
To be honest with you, I think I've been stressed out for a very long time and I've just suppressed
a lot of it.
And now I think I've kind of like opened the floodgates and I think I just kind of have
to get some of this histamine out of my body and kind of figure out what that looks like.
So that's all I'm going to say on it.
I know.
I know you don't want to talk about it.
I don't, but I just like, I feel like everyone's going to be like, oh, are you so excited for
Easter?
It's like, well, I'm not actually changing anything.
So Easter will just be filled with lots of temptations and nothing fun.
But that's okay because there are fun things going on.
Mainly the car model show coming to St. Louis June 13th.
We have a huge day today.
We're doing a walkthrough, which is always a fun day.
Like it's when it starts to come to life a little bit.
So that's what's on our agenda today.
Yeah.
That's what we're doing today.
Well, this past weekend I, it was literally 90 degrees.
But I, my nanny and I, we have vowed we are not going to complain about the heat because
we complained about the heat all at the end of the summer last year.
Can't wait for it to get cold.
Well, when it got cold, we were more miserable.
So I welcome 90 degrees.
I welcome it.
Come on.
It is the lesser of two evils.
I would rather be hot than cold any day of the week.
So I'm not going to complain about it.
It was lovely.
We went to, um, we went to the cathedral, the new cathedral in St. Louis.
If you're coming to the Karma Monticeau and if you are Catholic or if you're not,
and you just like want to see what a mass is like, go to the cathedral, Basilica,
the new cathedral is what it's called.
It is the, I think it's like the largest mosaic in the world.
I think it is too.
The entire ceiling, all the ceilings are mosaic.
It's ginormous.
It's jaw dropping.
It's like, I've been in the cathedral a ton.
I haven't been in the last several years and we decided to go because it's close to the zoo.
Um, and it was just stunning.
It was packed.
It was just a beautiful mass.
The music was incredible.
So highly recommend.
And then we went to the zoo after and that schedule of events I wouldn't recommend.
Maddie and I are actually starting something.
Um, so in the Marine Corps after you, I don't know, finish maybe a training
or like you go on a, uh, excursion to like go do something like, you know,
break down buildings, whatever they do.
You, you get together and you have an after action report and you report what went well,
what didn't go well.
I don't know if this is actually going, but anyway, we on the drive home,
we said, let's do an after action report.
So I wrote.
Oh, I love that.
I wrote zoo trip, um, because we had a lot of notes because it was a hot day and it was
a, um, it's like, we went at like a bad time.
We went at like noon, which is like a hard time a day to go.
I love that.
Like we've been doing after action reports, not even knowing it.
I know.
So I just like the term after action report.
I like the report after action.
We'll be taking that from the Marines.
Thank you.
Yes.
Thank you Marine Corps.
Um, so here are some, here are some things in our after action report.
If you're going to the St. Louis zoo for the auto show or just in general, you have to
go first thing in the morning because you can get, you can park in the zoo lot and there's
not that.
There's like no lines anywhere.
You go at like 1130 on, you're standing in line to get a water.
You're standing, you're, you're parking on a different street because it's not worth
it to stand in line for the, um, for the, for the parking.
You are standing in line to get in the zoo.
You're standing in line for the, for the train.
You're standing in line everywhere.
So go first, go first thing in the morning.
Other thing you can bring in coolers.
You can bring in food.
You can bring in anything water.
So definitely pack water bottles for your kids and I personally, I put electrolytes on
there because then my kids think they're drinking juice and like it was so hot.
They like needed electrolytes.
And the problem with the zoo is the St. Louis zoo is the food's not good.
It's not like, it's not like Disneyland where it's like, yeah, it's expensive, but
like it's so fun.
Like it's such average bad food.
You're getting, you're getting chicken.
You're getting chicken strips and french fries.
You're getting a pretzel with cheese.
Like you're not getting good food.
It's not so bring some sandwiches, bring food in or in my, in my case, I said, let's
just bring like healthy snacks and since we're going to go in the morning, we don't
need to get lunch.
We'll leave before lunchtime because we'll get everything done.
The other thing I wish I would have brought is a blanket.
Now it was hot, but there's like so many areas just like sit and like relax in the shade,
grab a picnic because we did end up getting a pretzel and like Sloan did need like a little
diaper change.
And I'm like, okay, let's just like, literally no one's around us.
Like let's just change her right here.
I'm like, I kind of wish I would have had a blanket.
That's versatile.
And then for me personally, I think for two kids, I wish I would have brought my double
stroller.
I only brought the single thinking James would walk more and he didn't.
And it's a hilly zoo.
Let me tell you.
Yeah, it's a walker.
So I wish I would have brought a double stroller.
And those are our notes on our zoo after action report.
I love the term after action report.
Me too.
Like I'm so mad that this is the first we're hearing of it.
I know.
Let me tell you my after action report for my weekend.
Cause we had kind of like a crazy weekend at Casa de Stumpy.
Okay.
We have two new additions to the farm.
The first is we got a trampoline.
Now our old neighbors texted us and they were like, we're getting rid of our trampoline
if you guys want it, you got to pick it up this weekend.
And one thing about my husband, if it's FR double E, he's there.
And we got the funniest home video.
Tyler was like taking a video of the trampoline and he goes, it was FR double E.
George, you know what that spells?
And George goes trash.
That is like the perfect, that's like the epitome of, that's a stumpyism right there.
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
Tyler's always picking up trash is treasure.
Like Tyler for him though.
It does work out for him.
And what I really appreciate about my husband is like, he's quick with it.
So like if someone texts him, hey, I'm getting rid of this, he will be there that evening.
Like he really prioritizes it because he always wants to be people's first call.
And it really has always seemed to work out for us.
Like one of our cousins was getting rid of this like Pac-Man machine, but like they want it gone now.
They're like, we're taking this.
Like do you want to come get this?
Tyler's there within hours.
He's like, we're there.
What else can I take?
Do you want me to take any trash for you?
I brought a whole trailer.
Like he's there.
So when our neighbor said they were going to rid of our trampoline, I was a little back and forth on it
because I think like really to him, I think George and Hattie are fine.
I think Fred's, Fred's too young and I think Libby's too young.
So we have some good rules around it.
But sorry, trampolines smack.
Like they're so fun.
They get, they get your, um, they're kind of like a vibration plate for kids.
Totally.
Like it's good to jump.
It's good to get your body moving.
It wears you out and we get your bowels moving.
It's good.
It's good to jump.
Well, and I was telling a friend like, so like I tried to like take a jump on it and
like immediately like peed my pants a little bit.
Totally.
That was the relatable thing you've ever said.
I was like, I know like one time on the podcast, I like said that like,
I just don't really think like pelvic floor therapy is something I need because like
it's just never, I've never noticed it as an issue.
And then I tried to give it a little jump and I said, oh, my pelvic floor could use some help.
So I'm just wondering like I would like, I would like people to jump on the trampoline
for like the exercise and I'm never going to buy a vibration plate.
I'm just like, that's one wellness trend.
I'm just going to sit out on.
Yeah.
Me too.
Yeah.
And like a major, like I'm sorry.
You guys look ridiculous.
No, but really.
Okay.
So here's the thing with about the vibration plate.
And that's why it brought it to jumping is because I have seen people say like the
benefits of the vibration plate is like, I think it's good to like get moving first thing
in the morning.
I think it helps with their bowels.
I think it helps.
I think there's something called lymphatic drainage.
I think that's the best way I've heard.
But then I also saw this girl on Instagram who's like, I just take like 150 hops a day.
And I'm like, could you just like jump up it?
I'm sorry.
Could you just jump up and down?
I, if you have a vibration when you love it, I'm so happy for you.
I'm just letting you guys know, like one, you look ridiculous.
And two, I agree.
Like hopping's free.
I'm just saying, I'm just saying if you are vibration plate curious, what if for like
a week straight, you just tried hopping 150 times?
Cause I also think if you, if you, if you fall off the trend of just hopping 150 times
in a row, I don't think you're going to stick to the vibration plate.
Elizabeth, that's what I'm saying.
Like before you buy the thing, like do it consistently.
I feel the same way about red light masks.
Like before you go buy a red light mask, like have you like, like done your whole skincare
routine every day for a week?
Like have you done a 10 minute skincare routine every day for a week?
Because if you haven't, you don't, the red light mask is not going to fix anything.
You have a discipline issue as do I.
And I don't, I really am not happy to say this, but like, I'm sorry, the red light
mask does work.
Like I have one and I use it.
Elizabeth, I don't, I don't doubt that, I don't doubt that the vibration plate doesn't
work.
I'm just saying I do.
I may be, I think that maybe there's an alternative to a vibration plate is what
I'm saying.
I think there is too.
I'm just saying like things only work if you use them.
And I think a lot of us, again, I'm, I'm including myself majorly in this category.
I have a discipline issue.
Yeah.
I have a routine issue.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, I don't even floss it.
I'm barely flossing every day.
I floss in my car because I can't even like do it before.
I don't know if we have a discipline issue.
I think we just have a, you have kids issue.
That's true.
So we're, oh, so anyway, so I'm going to try to, I'd like to know how I can get my pelvic
floor in a place to jump on the trampoline.
Okay.
I really, Charlotte, if you're listening, I'm sorry, you like need to go and get pelvic
floor therapy certified because like, like ASAP, she's curious about it and she's like
going to take classes for like, I would love it if Charlotte was a pelvic floor therapist.
Same.
That would be helpful for us.
I'm like always helping like, I love that we have, I think like who your siblings marry.
Like it really does affect your life.
Obviously in a major way.
It is helpful like when they have skills that your family does not.
So like the fact that we have a doctor of physical therapy in the family does feel helpful.
Yes.
Oh, I, I call Charlotte all the time and it's always the same answer.
Just like, rest it, put a brace on it.
Nice.
You can rest it, but it's nice to just like feel heard.
And that's what I'm saying about my health issues.
Like I started this new protocol with this person and it's like, well, they just cared.
Like, yes, I paid them, but like I'll pay anyone who just like cares for a second.
Totally.
No, we're so far, so far we're doing pretty good.
Like we have a, we have a doctor of physical therapy in the family.
We have a trash man in the family.
Wait, Tyler's a handyman.
No, sorry.
Tyler is a handyman.
He will also haul like big trash off for you to go to.
Tyler can fix anything.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I did just sell Tyler short.
He did so much for me renovation.
Tyler is a total handyman.
And I think like if, you know, if we ever like enter like a civil war or something,
then like Maddie's really going to come in handy.
And Maddie's in a cyclopedia.
Like if you know,
he's in a cyclopedia.
Yeah, for sure.
He's a walk in a cyclopedia.
Yeah.
No, for sure.
So for Sydney and Grayson, my notes would be, um, you know,
a chiropractor would be great.
A chef.
Chef?
Well, Sydney's kind of a chef.
Sydney's kind of a chef.
Like I would love a chef in the family.
Yeah.
I'm going to,
I would really love to explore what a chiropractor would look like.
My sister-in-law is a dentist and that's been really nice for me.
That's been helpful.
Yeah.
That's been helpful for me too.
I also see your sister-in-law.
I'm curious like what's like the best profession to have in a family?
I think not to toot his own horn,
but I do think Tyler's is very helpful.
Tyler's and Tyler has saved me a lot of money.
I mean, Tyler can be a plumber.
He can be an electrician.
He can be kind of whatever you need him to be.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah.
Why do you think about that though?
I mean, I would say like anyone in like the medical field is helpful,
like a doctor.
Yeah.
Any sort of doctor is helpful.
Um, yeah, things that make you go, hmm.
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Okay, anyway, the second part of my weekend was
so after we acquired the trampoline, then we acquired two piglets.
Mm-hmm.
Jefferson and Sally are their names.
Esthetician.
I would like an esthetician in the family.
Totally, that's it.
Sorry.
You okay?
Sorry.
Dr. Pigs.
Totally.
Yeah.
Sally and Jefferson are our pigs.
Okay, okay.
We picked them up.
We did unfortunately get like worst pick of the litter
because basically like the pig from where we got them from,
it's like fair season.
So like they were all fair pigs,
like all the 4-H kids came and like picked all the good ones.
So we kind of got the runts and they're just both plain black,
which is like not really fun.
But like you guys are giving the runts a place to thrive.
No.
And that's what I'm saying.
Like Stumpy Farms is the place to be.
Mm-hmm.
For sure.
Until you reach a certain weight.
You're out of here.
That's tough.
But I'm so excited at Piggies again
because pigs are so fun to go feed your table scraps too.
You love your pigs.
No, I, because I'm always, I'm always chasing the high
of people eating what I made for dinner until it was good.
And my family, especially with my new diet,
I'm not going to lie, the food's not as exciting.
But you know who will be so excited when I bring them up?
Like, you know, celery ends and wilted lettuce.
The pigs.
Jefferson and Sally.
They will think they won the jackpot.
They will oink at me.
They will come to me.
So it's just really satisfying.
Maybe I need pigs.
I don't think that's really for your,
but you can bring me your scrap.
Just when you come work in my house, bring me your scraps.
I'll bring them some.
I'll bring some to go containers.
They, I'm telling you, it's so fun.
Like they're not old enough to eat table scraps yet.
And I'm like counting down the days
so I can go feed them my scraps.
What do they have milk?
For milk?
No, they just have like, no, no, they don't need that.
They just have need pig feed.
Pig feed.
Okay.
Um, but anyway, they are pretty cute.
They're very tiny.
And it's just kind of giving petting zoos.
Like I know you're talking about the zoo,
but let me tell you what somebody farms has.
We've got our bucket cow, Molly.
She's thriving.
We have our pigs, Jefferson and Sally.
And in a couple of weeks, we're getting 10 chicks.
Now we're not keeping,
we're going to raise the chicks and then take them to the farm
because I can't,
we're not doing the chicken poop at our house.
Um, so we're getting 10 chicks and we're getting three lamb.
Oh, lambs are fun.
We've never had lambs before.
No, we've never had lambs before.
So now every stall will be filled.
All right.
Well, then I guess I don't need to go to the zoo.
No.
And I have all the snacks and blankets you'd need here.
So that was kind of like my weekend.
Um, it was just a good weekend.
Okay.
Well, I know we had a great weekend too.
Um, I want to talk something totally unrelated
that I saw on Instagram.
I saw a new trend.
I love a trend.
And it's actually a trend that's coming back.
And I don't know if this is,
I don't know if this is,
I don't know if this is Gen Z pushing it,
but I think Gen Z is about to have a really harsh reality check
with this new trend.
Because we're always talking about like bringing the 2000s fashion
back and a shoe that is on its way up is a peep toe heel.
And I'm not talking a kitten heel.
So they're actually fabulous.
Like when I see them on the runway,
I'm like, no, it's kind of fabulous.
Like I actually love it.
But why I think Gen Z is kind of screwed is their entire existence.
They have worn combat boots, kitten heels, flats or sneakers.
When I went to the bar in college,
like a freaking college student,
a six foot woman I had four, five inch wedges on because hello,
I'm an adult.
They were Nike Air Force ones.
They wore sneakers with their cute outfit
and it would piss me off.
Like when I would go out in Dallas
and like Sydney would meet me out because we're like going to dinner
or something.
And I'm like in a shoe and she's in her ratty white sneakers
with a cute sundress on and sneakers.
I'm like, this is not an outfit.
And it would and it would piss me off.
So anyway, now peep toe shoes are coming in.
Peep toe heels are coming in.
And these girls have never had to dance on a table in heels.
And I think they're going to be in for a really harsh reality check
when they realize that shoes are not comfortable.
And I actually just can't wait to see it unfold.
And I hope it I hope it sticks.
I've never thought about like the shoes that have been in.
And we've been celebrating as tall girls ourselves.
We're like tall girls and sneakers.
It's ballet flats.
It's ballet flats.
It's now it's a kitten.
Now a kitten heels a crazy thing.
And we've really been reveling in, you know,
the heels are not really it and let me be clear.
Like now I'm just so happy to be like on the other side of this
and like I'll just wear what I want to wear now.
And it is interesting because it does feel like they've only chosen
the easy fashions, the fun fashions.
I'm now you're bringing the heels.
I'm telling you when I was in high school, I to homecoming,
I wore six inch platform heels.
We need to find some of these photos.
Oh, I can easily find them.
Like you should see me.
I'm a giraffe.
Like it's you were a lot more confident than me.
I did you were taller heels than me.
I did not.
I.
Yeah, I don't care.
I love being six feet tall.
You don't like being tall.
No, I hate being tall.
If I could be five, seven tomorrow, I would.
I would literally like if there was a genie and I had three wishes,
I would consider that as one of my wishes.
No, I love, I love being tall.
And I need to get over that because here's the thing.
I'm going to have tall daughters.
I can't tell them that.
And like, I'm going to need to learn to like being tall.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think it's a confidence thing.
I think like no one people don't mess with you as much.
Like people are intimidated by you.
Like that was always the thing is anytime my friends met me,
they would say like my first thought of you was,
I thought you were kind of scary or like intimidating or whatever.
And then I got to know you.
And I think it's just because I'm tall.
I'm a looming figure.
Like I don't know what to tell you.
But I love being tall anyway.
So like,
and we didn't have we didn't have a tall mom.
So like we didn't have our mom is like five, seven,
so petite, so cute.
And like,
no,
we still don't have a tall mom and she still like doesn't get it.
Like I can't believe the way she doesn't get it.
You can't believe just like,
just go and like buy like,
like a dress.
Like I don't know why you're always wearing these like,
these like midi dresses.
I'm like, babe, short dresses.
Don't fit me.
I love our mother and I know,
but she doesn't always get it.
And never forget.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Never forget what she told us in high school.
And I know what she was trying to do.
I don't know what you're going to say.
And coming out from this side,
I think I get it because we were like,
we're not cute.
We're not cute.
We're not cute.
We're not cute.
And she goes,
you're right.
She says,
you're not going to be like a cute little cheerleader ever.
She goes,
the only time someone will call you cute is when you're pregnant.
Then you'll look cute,
but you're beautiful.
You're stunning.
You're gorgeous,
but you're right.
You're never going to be, you're not cute.
No, I know we were probably like so toxic.
She's like,
sorry, you're not this cute little cheerleader.
Oh, I'm so sorry that you have to be this like tall,
like model-esque, like whatever.
And it's like, all right, girl, like calm down.
Like I'm just like bummed that I get in trouble for the length
of my, my uniform skirt when they don't make them long enough.
But there, it was something like,
like I said, looking back,
I appreciate that she was just real with us.
Yeah.
Because like she was right.
Like we were never like,
you gotta picture this guys.
I was five 11 in the eighth grade.
Like my friends were fine and I was so lanky
and the boys weren't tall enough.
So like I was not,
she's right.
I was not cute.
I was beautiful.
I was gorgeous.
Like you can say all those things about me,
but I wasn't cute and I,
all I wanted to be my whole life was cute.
Yeah.
And I never was.
So during the luck.
I guess the grass just like isn't always greener.
Like I don't know.
That's on grit.
We're fine.
Anyway, all's to say we have been trained for heels.
We're now mothers.
So we don't have to jump on the heel trend.
No one's expecting us to peep toe shoes,
peep toe heels, heels.
I think in general,
like the platform heels are all coming back
and everyone is about to be humbled.
And I'm excited for it.
Well, that's kind of like,
Oh, let me just say one more quick thing.
And then we've didn't even tell the people
because we just got right into chat scene.
We have a, like kind of a killer interview
at the end of this podcast.
Yeah, we do.
That's coming up really soon.
So your industry news and digital drive segment
are going to be brought to you by Jen Morand,
who's like basically the HBIC
of the Chicago auto show.
She's amazing.
You're going to love her.
Before you that though,
I told you on my last episode
that my new side quest
is I'm trying to become a TikToker
just like for the vibes
for the social experiment.
And I had another thing go viral on TikTak.
And it was me talking about my vintage toy,
my love for vintage toys, 90s toys.
And I find it very interesting
the difference between TikTak and Instagram
because as of right now,
the TikTak has 330 views,
330,000 views on it.
I get that on my Instagram reels all the time.
The TikTak though has 52,000 likes.
Yeah.
It's a lot of likes.
And like a 330 views on Instagram,
I'd maybe get 9,000 likes.
Yeah.
So I'm just wondering
why people are so much more like you
on TikTak than IG?
I don't know.
I think that it's been a long time
since I've watched TikTak,
but I do remember like
it kind of takes a lot for me to like a video.
I mean, I'm being more generous
with my likes on Instagram
because I'm like, oh, I like that.
I guess I should double tap.
But sometimes I'll just like be like,
oh, I like that.
And then scroll and move on with my life.
So I don't know why.
I don't know why it's different.
But also I think that there's a level two
of like anonymity on TikTak.
Like some things I might like.
I'm like, I don't want,
I don't want sometimes people to see what I'm liking.
Yeah.
No, you have to think about that.
And you know, when you see a video,
you can see, I'm like, I can see,
oh, Kelly liked that.
Like why did Kelly like that?
Yeah.
It was just like something embarrassing,
like on vintage toys or something.
Right.
Exactly.
Like one of my biggest tips on social media is like,
if you are one,
if you are trying to become an influencer,
one thing that you can like really do
is you can,
you need to be more social on social media.
People always forget that.
Yeah.
Comment, like, reshare, DM,
like be very social
and then you'll like build relationships with influencers.
Like they might share your stuff.
People will see you in the comments
and then click on your profile.
Like you need to like be social.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've been doing that more too.
Well, like we just have like,
there's people who like always comment on my stuff
on Instagram and like,
I am like going to be returning the favor all the time now
because I like really appreciate,
I really appreciate the engagement.
Yeah.
No, for sure.
So, okay.
Well, I feel like we just like kind of get into our episode.
We've kind of covered all the basis.
Yeah.
Oh, um, no, a little,
a couple of housekeeping things.
Guys,
I,
I am sorry.
I do not have childcare for half of this week.
So,
I can't get two podcasts recorded this week.
So we're only going to have today's.
I'm sorry.
We're not going to have one for Friday.
And then next week,
next week,
the auto show Cal,
we're going to Chicago or to New York.
Oh my gosh,
we're going to New York and guess what?
We're doing tour.
We're doing tours of the New York auto show.
You guys,
if you are anywhere in New York,
you simply must book a tour.
It's the time of your life.
No, it's a lot of fun.
It's me, Liz and Sam.
We take you around the auto show.
We see all the cars.
It's basically like a bunch of mini car buying consultations
all happening.
We have fun.
We'll make a reel together.
So don't do it unless you want to be in my reel.
Um,
I'll bring some merch.
I'll bring some.
You don't have to be in Kelly's reel if you don't,
if you want to do it and you,
you don't have to be in her reel.
Yeah.
You don't have to be.
I mean,
I will respect your pride if you don't want to be,
but you should,
but it is fun.
You just basically like say your favorite car.
Or maybe we can think of something else.
I won't make you do a TikTok dance.
It's nothing like that.
No, no, no.
Um, so,
yes.
So book that if you're interested.
It's a lot of fun.
We'll put the link in the show notes.
And so all is to say,
we're going to be in New York next week.
So we're also only going to be able to get out one episode
next week too.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
It starts to be a multi-platform influence.
It's just kind of how the cookie has crumbled.
Like I'm just,
I'm too busy.
I have my anatomy scan this week.
So like that's kind of why I'm like booked.
Like I have three doctor's appointments tomorrow.
So I can't record one tomorrow.
So.
Yeah.
That's what we got.
Yeah.
So sorry.
I just don't think I have a solo in me.
Maybe I do though.
I don't know.
I'll think about that.
Okay.
Okay.
Well,
without further ado,
let's get into our interview with Jen Moran from the Chicago auto show.
Jen Moran,
head of the Chicago auto show,
CEO,
president of the Chicago auto show.
Welcome to the Carpool podcast.
Thank you.
Thanks so much for having me.
You guys,
me and Jen and Liz,
we go kind of,
kind of way back.
Elizabeth and I were talking this morning about the first time
we met you.
I think it was at a mama event.
Yes.
Yes.
And it's funny you say mama because a lot of people in the industry
might know what that means,
but maybe a lot of your listeners don't know what that means.
Agree.
And just because we are all moms,
doesn't mean we were at some mama.
I wish.
But it actually stands for the Midwest Automotive Media Association,
of which we're all a part of,
where we get to test drive fun vehicles
and talk to journalists and manufacturers.
So yes, that was,
that was gosh,
that was what four,
maybe even five years ago.
Oh my gosh.
It was.
He told us was married.
Oh my gosh.
Because I found out I was like five weeks pregnant with Fred
and didn't know it yet at that event.
Oh my goodness.
That's right.
Yeah.
So crazy.
So it is just such synergy that like,
I'm the car mom and like I'm a part of mama.
It is,
it is really fun.
But Jen also,
like on top of being a part of mama,
she is literally like the head of the Chicago auto show.
And it is one of the best auto shows in the country.
I was just there.
Had the freaking time of my life.
Like it was,
I'm not kidding you.
A top,
a top 10 trip for me.
And I go on a lot of fun trips.
I had the best time.
our,
our attendees love the fact that you were there and,
you know,
just the fact that you stayed for the VIP tours and you guided
people around the auto show,
which is,
we'll kind of dive into that,
which is such an amazing experience.
But I mean,
your slot sold up within seconds of opening.
So obviously you have a lot of fans out there,
you and Liz both,
but it was just,
it was so fun.
And then of course,
following along on your stories and your Instagram reels
and just, you know,
the kind of conversations from the show floor was just so much
fun.
If you,
I don't know if you saved them at all,
but if people can go back and watch them,
I think that it would really share that experience and you,
you'd really get a feel for it.
I felt like a kid in the candy store.
Like,
I can't explain it.
I just felt home.
And I was like,
there were so many,
I mean,
obviously there was amazing cars there.
I thought the manufacturers really brought some great
activations this year.
Yes.
And I thought you guys hit it out of the freaking park with
your family activations.
Like that was,
I was so blown away by all of the kids activities because
for so long,
auto shows have been marketed as a family event,
but then there's like so few things for kids to do there.
Not at the Chicago auto show.
Right.
I couldn't go.
Yeah.
We,
we've,
we've really tried to,
to,
you know,
expand the offerings that we do provide.
I mean,
manufacturers as you know,
and you host your own auto show.
So, you know,
you get the vehicles there,
you work with dealers or you work with manufacturers.
And in our,
in our experience,
we're working with manufacturers,
but it really is up to what they want to bring.
You know,
we can't force them to bring anything.
So we've realized over the years that,
you know,
the activities for kids were maybe a little bit lacking so
that we decided to add actually a family zone where we have
kids can test drive vehicles.
They can hop behind the wheel of power wheels while their
parents hop behind the wheel of vehicles outdoors.
So we always say there's truly something for everybody.
We want to make it more of a family event.
So we've done a few things over the years to try to enhance
that experience.
I love it.
And this is just so,
I just want to say this is just so surreal and serendipitous for
me to be on the podcast because I am a avid listener.
Love,
love the podcast cannot say enough good things about you both.
So it's so fun because I know you in person,
but I also listen to you.
So I feel like, you know,
it's been not a second since we've last caught up.
Um, so let's kind of, because we,
we wanted to,
we tried to get this podcast done before I was going to the
Chicago Auto Show.
We weren't able to get it done.
So I'm, and I'm kind of happy because now I feel that we can
kind of like live with this recap.
But I want to talk about like,
for anyone,
I mean,
you're obviously a really big advocate for in-person events
and like touching the car.
And the industry is kind of,
the auto industry I think is kind of trying to figure out if
they can remove this like in-person aspect,
I guess of the car buying process.
And I just don't think you can buy a car without sitting in it.
What do you say to, I mean,
how important do you think it is for families to touch,
drive,
explore the vehicle before purchasing?
Yeah.
I know you've said this over and over on the podcast,
which I appreciate.
And I,
and I completely share that agreement.
We know that auto shows influence the buying decision because
of that in-person experience.
You are sitting in the vehicles.
You are talking with the knowledgeable product specialists
who can answer any question you have about the vehicle,
whether it's a gas-powered vehicle to hybrid, plug-in hybrid,
any powertrain, size, SUV, large SUV, compact vehicle.
So really,
you get a chance to experience hundreds of vehicles on the
show floor and compare them back to back.
And then what we're seeing more and more is that experiential
side of it where more auto shows are incorporating ride-in
drives and you can actually get behind the wheel and compare.
I know your family owns dealerships.
Great,
great opportunity to come in and test drive.
However,
we always say this,
and I know you share this sentiment is you can't,
you can't experience them back to back.
Multiple brands.
I mean,
now some dealerships are mega dealers and they have multiple
brands and you might be able to,
but auto shows are really that chance to experience these vehicles
back to back across all segments.
And even if,
even if it is a dealership that has the brands,
it's not without hoops you're jumping through.
I mean,
it's still going to take,
by the time you get the keys,
I mean,
you've had to talk to multiple people,
give over your life.
So I agree.
I think that,
and I think it's so,
because I think when a family starts the car buying process,
there's so many options.
It's so overwhelming.
But I think if,
if they have the opportunity to go to an auto show and getting
them back to back,
they will be shocked how many cars they can just take off their
list quickly.
Like that can go from a list of 10 to five and five is such
an easier number to like wrap your head around.
So I agree.
Just sitting in them,
seeing the visibility,
how you feel.
And like,
I think the industry really underestimates
how a person feels in a car.
Whereas like,
I always like to compare it to like the wedding dress industry.
Like we tell brides all the time,
how do you feel in it?
How do you feel in it?
You'll just know when it's the car.
And then you get laughed at if you're like,
well, how do you feel in it?
And I think that's so important.
If you buy the first car, you test drive,
that's fine with me.
If it was the one and you knew,
and you thought through how it was going to work for your family,
good for you.
Yes, I know.
Absolutely.
And so we actually have researched part of the automotive
experience alliance that the Chicago auto show is a part of,
but over 20 auto shows are a part of from last show season that
shows that half of the people who attend these auto shows
actually alter their consideration list after attending.
So whether that means that they were,
they were wowed by,
you know,
a different brand or a different vehicle,
even different segment,
or they weren't at the auto show and they decided to go with
another brand that was at the auto show.
We see that all the time.
It was, it was funny.
We have the Chicago event has another kind of spin off just all
about the test drives that we were calling Chicago drives
electric that will now be Chicago drives in the fall.
Just all powertrains and people experienced these vehicles.
They said, you know what,
I actually came to drive the Audi and now I'm actually going
home with a Kia like they were dead set on buying a Kia versus
an Audi,
which was so interesting because it's,
I mean,
you think of like luxury to mainstream and it's not even,
you know,
it wasn't anything that you would,
they would even consider,
but they just love the functionalities.
They love the features,
you know,
the range and all of that.
So I think to your point,
you really have to get a chance to get behind the wheel,
experience the vehicle,
test drive the vehicle.
But even if you,
even if you're at the auto show and you just see a vehicle,
you're like, wow,
I really like how this looks and you can't test drive it.
You can still then head to your dealer, right?
And then,
and then do that.
But no,
it's just a great opportunity.
There's,
there's hundreds of vehicles all under one roof to be able to
experience.
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And I'm just curious, like, I mean,
we also like to kind of spill some hot tea going on
in the auto industry here, as you know.
What about the manufacturers who just don't come?
Because you do have some manufacturers who don't come
to the Chicago Auto Show.
Oh, absolutely.
What's their reasoning for that?
I mean, I know which one's there.
I don't know if you want to put them on blast or not.
No, I'm mad about it.
I'm transparent.
No, we are frustrated as well and I think it's an industry
because we know that the auto shows work
and we know that we have that secret sauce to be able
to get these consumers in front of buyers
who are actually in market.
Most of the buyers that come to our auto shows
are considering buying within a year, so we know that.
So it's just a great opportunity to get in front of them.
But yes, there are many manufacturers,
a lot of luxury manufacturers that unfortunately
just have a different marketing strategy.
And again, we can't force them.
Show-out organizers, of course, can't force them to come,
although we are frustrated because we know that they would
have a great experience and opportunity.
That said, I do think that the industry shifts
and the pendulum will swing back.
I think that more manufacturers are just investing
in ride and drives and experiential events
and that's really what an auto show is.
I think it's just because auto shows have been around
for over a century in some cases, like our show
and many others, that the manufacturers think,
oh, it's just an outdated model.
We're looking for the newest digital marketing strategy
or we're going to have influencers,
which guess what, you both are influencers
and you were at the auto show yourselves.
So it's like, you're combining that in person experience.
We actually prefer not going to the ride and drives
because we can only see one car at the time.
And we're like, we're moms.
We can't travel every weekend to do this,
to go to these events.
And they're wonderful and they're super fun.
But that's two days given up on one car.
We also agree seeing multiples right next to each other,
even though we're in them all the time.
It's such good practice for us too
to see the cars right next to each other.
Even people who live and breathe this
don't get that same opportunity.
It's a good opportunity for everyone.
Yeah, I feel like if the manufacturers were smarter,
they would do the Chicago auto show,
they would do the auto show activations
and then invite the influencers for a weekend in Chicago.
And it's two birds, one stone.
And I've always, I've been not begging,
but I've tried multiple times to try to get a manufacturer
to host me and like a meet and greet at an auto show.
Cause I'm like, I'm already going to be there.
Like let's throw like a little cocktail hour at your booth.
Like that would be so fun.
Well, how do we talk about this?
Because we have 20 auto shows
in the automotive experience lions.
Maybe we can get them offline.
Maybe how that might look, but that would be fantastic.
Jen, I would love to brainstorm that
because everyone wants me to take the car on auto show
on the road.
And like, unfortunately, like I just,
logistically, I just can't and won't do it.
Like it's not, I know, you know, the, oh, I don't, I mean,
the financials just don't make sense for me.
Like by the time I took my 40 car seats and rear,
it's just, it's not going to work.
It's never going to be, never, never, but I don't see a world
where we take it on the road,
but I would love to bring like mini auto shows
to the existing auto shows where like,
I could still bring a couple of my car seats.
I could be there.
Like I could have my team there and we could still have some
like the fun of, but just on,
like a pop up, like I'm like, yes.
Like I'm trying to work smarter or not harder.
Like there's already auto shows across the whole country.
Like why can't I just come and bring the razzle-dazzle
without bringing all of the cars?
Well, I think we just, I think we just had a really good,
really good idea to bring it to life.
Bring it to life.
Yeah, let's talk about that.
No, I think that would be a fantastic opportunity.
And of course, you know, you both have a huge draw,
but what I love about you the most is that, you know,
you know the industry inside and out,
but you're changing it, you know, because it used to be,
and I've been in the industry for a while now and it's finally,
you know, clicked where, you know, it used to be very male dominated
and it still is in many cases.
But just to bring to life, people were intimidated,
women were intimidated to come to auto shows.
They saw models on stands and they're like,
that's really just not my style.
That's not for me.
But now they've really evolved where you can go and you,
there's males, there's females, there's just knowledgeable people
that's just talking about the vehicles and giving you the advice
and answering your questions.
It's just, it's just a different time.
And I think that, you know, what's great about you both is that
you're able to talk to just the general public in a way that
for a while, many manufacturers just, just haven't really done
to be quite honest with you.
They, they were trying different marketing tactics.
You're just both very real and you're, and you're super knowledgeable.
I love your, your reviews, how you do videos back to back.
Like you're, and it's your opinions, but it's also,
you're showing people kind of why you're, you know,
why you're saying these things and they're like, okay,
that that makes sense to me or this is applicable in my life as a,
as a parent or, or not a parent or just in a different stage of life.
So I think, you know, I think that would be a really great experience
and actually a great time in the industry to bring you to, into auto shows.
Yeah. Thank you.
I would, I would, I would really enjoy that.
And I love for as much as I like the cars, I really like,
my real passion is the car selection and the car buying process.
Like, because what people forget is like, no,
I'm actually just like a car sales person. Like in my core, I love selling cars.
So I love when I get to even do like those tours of the auto show because they
feel like, I mean, Liz can attest to it.
Like I started a tour and like sales girl Kelly is back and I am like,
I am having the time of my life giving tours of the auto show because I love
showing people cars and helping people find the right car for them.
Like I just think, I think it's the most fun.
It's the most fun I've ever had.
Absolutely. No, it is.
And you know, it's, it's interesting because I might,
one of my favorite things about going down to my show floor and just,
just like observing and listening is the people who are,
they're just actively asking questions. They're opening up the trunk.
They're literally putting car, we had Britax as you know, Kelly,
Britax at our auto show. They were putting car seats in the vehicles,
comparing, doing demos. I mean, because it's all about the practicality
and it's how that vehicle fits in your lifestyle.
And you talked about like, how does that car make you feel truly like you,
you're trying it on. You are, you are sitting in it. You're adjusting the mirror.
Yeah.
You know, you're opening up the glove compartment and,
you know, looking at the technology and seeing how it fits. Does this,
you know, the built-in phone charger fit my foot, like cup holders,
literally everything about the vehicle. And you have that opportunity to do that.
I truly, like I love the digital side. I think it's,
it's a great compliment to the auto show. However,
I personally do not think that it has the ability to completely influence
that purchase, especially when an auto is the second largest purchase
of your life behind your home. I just, I just don't see how that's feasible.
Totally.
Yeah. I mean, you can order a shirt online because you can return it.
Like you can't order a car online. Like it's not how it works.
Exactly. Exactly.
Okay. What, this is just kind of like a random question.
I'm just curious, but what was your favorite, like,
and maybe you can't answer this, what was your favorite manufacturer activation?
Like who do you think just has really, a really good activation?
No, I, I think that many of them do, and I'll give you a couple of examples
of why I think, I think they do. I think many of them, you know,
they try to engage people in different ways, but I will say Subaru.
I mean, if you know, I mean, Subaru just comes in.
I knew you were going to say Subaru. I knew you were going to say Subaru.
And we love it. And the consumers love it too,
because you literally go into their exhibit. And for those of you who haven't been
to an auto show or don't know what we're talking about,
it is a fully immersive experience where they call the five senses.
You can smell, touch, feel, I mean, you're literally in different
terrains. There's like mountains. There's, I mean, gosh,
like all different sorts of like, what are they called?
Like, like land, landmarks, right? Like across the country.
And it just changes. They have these giant digital screens.
They have even puppies at the auto show where they, they're really,
you know, great at giving back and they're helping communities.
And they have a dog adoption every day at the auto show.
So it's great because people can actually play with puppies.
I mean, they know how to keep you in their display.
So I think they're doing a fantastic job.
I also think that, you know, Ford and Jeep are just,
they're killing it with their trash.
Those of the shows who have the Ford Bronco Mountain and then Camp Jeep,
which they're like mini roller coasters inside the auto show.
And they're going up these hills and down and over different terrains.
It's truly an amazing experience,
but you get a sense of like how that could really feel, you know,
off-off-road if you are into off-roading.
But if you're not, it's just a fun, just a fun ride to take in the auto show.
Yeah, I agree. Subaru, I think is definitely the,
it's the biggest wow factor at the auto show.
And I really did think that at Chicago,
I thought the Ford display was really good.
I mean, them having the Bronco like really has just kind of like made
their whole display more interesting because it's allowed them
to like lean way more off-roading in like their entire display
than I think they ever normally would have.
Yes.
So I thought their display was great.
Yeah, it was just, it was, it was a great show.
Yeah.
And we were going to, Liz and I are going to New York in a couple of weeks.
Yep.
And we're excited that Atlas is being revealed.
So that's like,
Very excited.
That's what's getting us there, truthfully.
Yeah.
Because it's quite a bit further than Chicago.
So we're excited for that.
And then of course, if you guys miss both of those,
you have the car model show June 13th in St. Louis.
I would love to, I would love to check that out.
And this is how many years of the show now?
This is our fourth year.
Fourth year.
Okay.
That was such a brilliant idea.
That's just interesting.
It's been really fun.
And it's been, you know, it's funny you say, you know,
some of the manufacturers don't see the value in it.
You would not believe the difficulty we have with getting,
not all of them.
Some of them are more than generous.
And some of them are like, well, what's this event?
Like they literally are so, and I'm like, you know what?
Forget it.
I'll just call the local dealership.
Like you're making this, you're making this too difficult for me.
And this dealership would love to be there.
Yep.
Absolutely.
And, and honestly, many auto shows do like,
there are different degrees of auto shows.
Some manufacturers don't participate in some auto shows across country.
Some are run by like the, the second tier,
which is like the advertising associations.
And then, and then of course the dealer is always, you know,
but the dealers know the importance.
And that's what I would always say to auto show organizers is,
if you can get your dealers to start rallying them.
So start to have them rally their local marketing associations,
have them start rallying their OEMs or manufacturers.
They really, you know,
understand the value of putting those butts in seats.
I mean, I hate to say it like that, but that's that truly it is.
It's getting the people behind the wheels of the vehicles,
driving the vehicles and then educating themselves
because that they truly is the way to influence their buying decision.
Yeah.
I always, you know, I will always put my audience first,
like always, always, always.
But there are some times where I'm just like, you know what,
I don't even want to have that car there.
And I want everyone to know that this manufacturer didn't think
this was an important event to go to.
But unfortunately, I have too high of morals for that.
So I will make sure I will get all the minivans.
I'll get all the full size SUVs there,
whether I get them for the manufacturer, the local dealer.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter to my audience.
So I would tell you, it doesn't matter to any audience because I truly,
because we have had missing manufacturers for many years.
Now shows are starting to go to the dealers, which is,
which is fine, which is great because that brands are presented.
And, you know, maybe they're not bringing the large kit,
like Subaru is bringing this amazing display.
And we never want that to go away.
However, there are manufacturers that haven't, you know,
shown up in recent years that we're trying to get them back in to the,
to the consumers they have, they really don't know.
And I also find it interesting and for,
for those of you listening that go to auto shows and you're kind of upset
because you didn't see an Audi or you didn't see a Mercedes or,
you know, a name that Land Rover name that luxury brand that they have been
missing from many, from auto shows, but they don't realize it's not the show
producers.
So like they'll get mad at you and I because we don't have them there.
And we always tell people on social media, like,
we'll tell the manufacturers, like we really missed you in Chicago.
We missed you at the car mom auto show.
Like we, we want to see you represented.
And so that's really kind of our response because we wish they would,
would come as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We should like, this is a comfort.
We need to get like a glass of wine over this combo.
Because I have so many thoughts on it.
Okay, Jen, before you go,
we have one of our favorite segments on the podcast is called ditch the drive
through after like a long day of just like being the head girl at the Chicago
auto show, your family's still got to eat.
You don't want to hit a drive through.
What are you making for dinner?
So I, we have been loving these meta training bowls and you can actually
prep them on Sunday or whatever day that's easier for you to prep them.
So we'll do Greek marinated chicken or steak.
You could do falafel if you're, if you don't eat meat as well.
And you just cook all that up.
You can have any base you want rice, quinoa, arugula, any sort of like
salad based for your, for the, for the bottom portion of it.
And then we do a really good fresh tomato, cucumber, dill, olive oil,
lemon kind of like relish, if you will on top.
And then I don't do a homemade hummus.
I just buy the plain tub of any sort of general hummus because we're already
making, you know, we're already making enough for doing enough,
but it's still fine.
But I do do two other homemade things, a homemade tzatziki sauce.
So you could do dill, lemon, lime, salt and pepper, olive oil with yogurt.
So you could do like a high protein yogurt or you could do like a dairy
free yogurt, if you don't do dairy, blend all of that up.
And then also we do high protein pita bread.
So you can actually blend like a high protein cottage cheese with flour
or gluten free flour and just a little baking soda, blend it all together.
And just cook it on a cast iron pan.
It is so good.
That's how you make pita bread?
Yes, you can.
What?
Believe it or not, it's a three ingredient.
So again, it's cottage cheese.
You can do low lactose if you don't really handle dairy that well.
Like I do, you can do, blend it with gluten free flour or regular flour,
a little bit of baking soda.
And then I sometimes do put a little water just to thin it up if it's too thick.
When you just cook it over a cast iron pan and then you can always have those
not the tortillas, the pita's rather to heat up again for the next night
or for the next meal.
But I will tell you, it is a tried and true.
You can just assemble everything.
It's super easy to compile and the flavor profile is next level.
I love that.
And that's the kind of thing where it's like you could slightly change up
like what you put in the bowl and have it like a couple of nights a week.
Like, you know, okay, let me add more of this or maybe you know,
you make all the protein, you do chicken one night,
you do steak the next night.
Like that sounds so good.
I love the idea of Greek marinade.
It's steak.
I never considered.
I know.
I know it's the flavors together are so good.
And like you said, you can, it's so versatile.
You can have steak one night, chicken.
Sometimes I'll just do like a pita almost like, you know,
like just eat the pita.
Sometimes I'll do a bowl with a little pita on the side.
But yeah, we really haven't gotten sick of it yet.
So it's a tried and true.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Well, Jen, thank you so much for joining the Carbon Podcast.
This was such a fun conversation.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I guess like stay tuned for like more like future car and
motor shows.
I guess we need to talk.
Yes.
I'm so honored to be here.
Thank you so much for having me.
Thanks Jen.
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