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Alex Flores On Tuning 2025 Ford F150's, Downfall Of Mustangs, and The Decline of Ford
Alex Flores On Tuning 2025 Ford F150's, Downfall Of Mustangs, and The Decline of Ford
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About this episode
Alex Flores dives deep into the tuning landscape of the 2025 Ford F-150, expressing frustration over the lack of tunability in newer Mustangs and the overall decline of Ford's performance offerings. He discusses the trend of enthusiasts reverting to older models for better tuning potential and the impact of Ford's decisions on Mustang sales. The conversation also touches on the differences between the F-150 and Mustang platforms, the importance of aftermarket support, and the evolving automotive culture, including the rise of drifting. Flores shares insights on the future of performance vehicles and what it means for dedicated fans.
Topics:
tuning 2025 f-150
decline of mustangs
ford performance
aftermarket support
enthusiast culture
drifting
coyote engine
project cars
electric vehicles
performance trends
Cars:
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Corvette
Dodge Challenger
Dodge Charger
Dodge Omni
Ford Contour
Ford F-150
Ford Mustang
Ford Probe
Ford SVT Lightning
Jeep Renegade
Nissan GT-R
Shelby Cobra
Tesla Model Y
Toyota Supra
In this episode, we sit down with Alex Flores to talk about tuning the 2025 Ford F150. We also dive into the downfall of the modern Mustang, why it’s lost its edge, and what’s really behind Ford’s decline as a brand.
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Ford Mustang
"...EAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel so bad as a Mustang fan that I've like, I've just like, I'm honestly,..."
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Mustang Fox Body
"...ently that made me laugh so hard. [SPEAKER_00]: A Fox body inspired paint scheme. [SPEAKER_00]: So how many ..."
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Tesla Model Y
"...: Like come or SUV, I guess. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a model Y competitor. [SPEAKER_00]: So like if I'm going to..."
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Dodge Charger
"...people to look away. [SPEAKER_00]: Now there's no charger. [SPEAKER_00]: Now there's no charger."
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Dodge Challenger
"...SPEAKER_00]: How many songs are made about the RT Challenger and the RT? [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not the Hellca..."
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Ford Probe
"...ER_00]: They were going to replace it with a Ford probe. [SPEAKER_00]: And then the sky named Coletti and..."
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Ford Contour
"...bra the ninety eight cobra the Ford SVT focus the contour SVT it became performance so I went back cool but..."
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Ford Svt
"...d the ninety six cobra the ninety eight cobra the Ford SVT focus the contour SVT it became performance so I ..."
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Jeep Renegade
"...grass roots, backwards, [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, outlaw, renegade, stow, let's just get after it, race for money, f..."
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Nissan Gtr
"...m like what are these people doing? [SPEAKER_03]: GTR for my video and it was crazy all those YouTube v..."
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Chevrolet Camaro
"...]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And then the Fox body, but Camaro they stopped me. [SPEAKER_00]: They stopped makin..."
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Chevrolet Corvette
"...he weird weirdo, that, you know, the similar to a Corvette owner. [SPEAKER_00]: Those guys are gonna be like..."
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Shelby Cobra
"...one of the other. [SPEAKER_00]: All three or four Cobra? [SPEAKER_00]: No G-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T..."
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Dodge Omni
"...ly shitty cars, and then then then came the Dodge Omnis and the K cars. [SPEAKER_00]: These little pieces..."
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F-150 Raptor
"...00]: We got a five leader. [SPEAKER_00]: We got a Raptor R. We got a two fifty three. [SPEAKER_00]: They g..."
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Toyota Supra
"...ke, I don't need anything. [SPEAKER_00]: I got my Supra if I want to go fast and fuck around. [SPEAKER_00..."
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel so bad as a Mustang fan that I've like, I've just like, I'm honestly, I close my eyes to whatever they say.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care what you say Ford.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care what you say until this becomes tunable.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna come out of my hole.
[SPEAKER_00]: pay attention.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just gonna just do my own thing with twenty-three and under.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what's happened?
[SPEAKER_00]: People have now swapped their Mustangs.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've coyote swap everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're getting old cars and they're just swapping it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, I'm not buying this new one.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not tunable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me just get some tunable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you can finance everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can get into a new Mustang, put five thousand down, pay six hundred bucks a month or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now you're six hundred bucks a month and you can now, you know, maybe a firm, a blower or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: But let's just say you just want to tune it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eighty five headers, exhaust.
[SPEAKER_03]: go to the track run tends any or low levels can't do that with this car unless you've got it and it's just I did see that someone was running like a fuel tech on the phone fifty yeah the black one I have a happier how do you as friend have your strength yes [SPEAKER_03]: He has a fuel tech on it, but it's kind of finicky.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, his brake lights don't work and it's just certain wonky things.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it runs the number.
[SPEAKER_00]: It runs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was his end goal.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let me ask you, what do you based on, you know, you've gotten some knowledge with this, what do you think it costs to put fuel tech in a vehicle?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the seven hundred like five thousand.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just the fd seven hundred, but that's why that is the ECU.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why aren't you going to have stuff?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like five thousand.
[SPEAKER_00]: No big money because you got you got to like wire wire.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you got to control the ten or eighty.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to tune it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so shout out to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: He got it done.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he can say.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I had a thousand then had the fastest gen five, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, he does.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't take it away from him, but you can't natively natively tune that vehicle yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: So people like me, don't even pay attention to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't sit there and go, whoa, I want to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he understands that, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: He knows that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He seems like a good dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have a good program, but behavior's truck is tuned by land, and I think goes eights.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like natively.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the older truck, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's twenty three and under twenty three, which is, in my opinion, great.
[SPEAKER_00]: As a matter of fact, interestingly enough, [SPEAKER_00]: F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-ON-F-F- [SPEAKER_00]: then the TC-C-T-U-N-E-A.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it has different spark cut, it has different, like the tenor-a-d being controlled by the twenty-one, a twenty-three of them, fifty, is more crisp than the previous generation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Other than the previous generation, the previous eighteen to twenty, eighteen to twenty is my opinion, previous generation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's gen three.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty-one, twenty-three is gen four.
[SPEAKER_00]: because it has a DOD, a cylinder on the band, and a different computer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Still tenor AD.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that car, if you listen to a twenty one or twenty three or from fifty shifts, it shifts better than an eighteen or twenty.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like a like a like a popping sound in between shifts.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's that?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a different spark cut.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you look at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, oh, they got nice spark cuts quick.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crisp.
[SPEAKER_00]: The, uh, eighteen to twenty dozen different computers.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think they might have figured out shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there is a goes behind the machine control and this thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's an inherent issue that can pop up with a ten or eighty.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it still has ten or eighty issues that big power levels when breaking a thousand.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have ten or eighty issues.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just going to slip.
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have enough clamping force.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just going to do what it does.
[SPEAKER_03]: So now that you had mentioned that in terms of the previous year, what do you think is the best year F-one fifty to get?
[SPEAKER_00]: and that's a good question.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pre-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re [SPEAKER_00]: get a gen two.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gen two, turbo, four hundred, you know, for racing, but a ten or eighty truck to go fast with, twenty one or no.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they look better.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it has a better computer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every time I tune one, it's so cookie cutter, it's not even funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if a customer goes up to me and goes, [SPEAKER_00]: ID, three hundred X's return field system, E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E- [SPEAKER_00]: Go what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Looks good.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's a ship that's seventy five hundred.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are to run?
[SPEAKER_00]: Nine ninety.
[SPEAKER_00]: See you later.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like one or two two.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, yeah, sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we bought a truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: We developed the tuning.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that is version eighty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Subversion eighty of that tune.
[SPEAKER_00]: The base.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we throw the injector file.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the thing just does what it does.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it found us to build one today.
[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty one and twenty three.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now out of those years, there were some issues from factory, no?
[SPEAKER_03]: Was some of those years?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not really on F-R-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M- [SPEAKER_00]: You just go off and it doesn't actuate certain things.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not on the mechanical side.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think what you've deleted in the tune and I don't quote me on this because you know how the internet is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you have to do anything mechanical to delete it, just delete it in the tune.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then usually whatever issue would come up with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the problem is that the highest case use for these F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F [SPEAKER_00]: So they, so they, they, they blow up like because of forty PSI or whatever the hell.
[SPEAKER_00]: Before I can see what the long term effect of a tune would be.
[SPEAKER_00]: The long term effect is our F-R-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F [SPEAKER_00]: ill effect we're like right the tune is good that the tune is not causing an adverse effect by turning off certain things and that's how we vet the file but the guys are racing right now they just don't boost at it and yeah they chuck a rod and they go they get a built engine in it and they go again so I'm like [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you don't know what the long term effects of high horsepower, because you guys are just racing every weekend.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's great because I was looking at, I was looking at the older year F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F- [SPEAKER_03]: because I can it's tunable and then also for the price like if I get a brand new one it's kind of close to the same price I guess a little bit because the price is still high right it's not everyone's looking for like that regular cab kind of style f-one fifty it was it was so hard to find because they didn't make a lot of them yeah all of a sudden
[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's like, even Ford is like, well, let's, we'll just build more of these.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: People want these.
[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't that crazy?
[SPEAKER_00]: How the, how Ford listen to the aftermarket and said, oh, people want a fast truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's give them a, a work truck with wheels and epic, seven hundred.
[SPEAKER_00]: But with the Mustang, they didn't listen at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what they actually came out with recently that made me laugh so hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: A Fox body inspired paint scheme.
[SPEAKER_00]: So how many fox bodies have you seen with white wheels and white fog light inserts with a teal green color?
[SPEAKER_00]: That is their FOX body inspired FX package.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it looks like a Porsche, I forget the really cool looking Porsche wheels.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have like a center, center lock thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like a Porsche wheel on an S-V-I-F-I with white inserts.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, you're not listening to anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even FOX body owners are like, brothers, they're not FOX inspired?
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't have thought it was like white.
[SPEAKER_03]: Would like stripes or something like that?
[SPEAKER_00]: How dare you?
[SPEAKER_00]: How dare you?
[SPEAKER_00]: No fuck.
[SPEAKER_00]: No fuck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those chains up dog bodies, they're crazy, don't fuck, so I think they're trying their hardest, but they got it right with the truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: For whatever reason, Ford got it right with the truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave you what you wanted, but with the Mustang, they're going, you want a Mustang mock E, which is an SUV.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you name an SUV Mustang?
[SPEAKER_00]: So now some old ladies are gonna go, oh, it looks like my Mustang.
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like for some years now, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They actually outsold the car.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Mustang Mach E out sells the car.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you, have you been in one?
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell no.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm just, it's like, I've always been curious about that truck.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like come or SUV, I guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a model Y competitor.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like if I'm going to buy that, no, I would never even get in one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would never get in one.
[SPEAKER_00]: But no, I'm good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got in a model Y one time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Big mistake in South Florida with the Jamaican driving it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Goober.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got car sick because they're torqued.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I got total ass, but it made me go, okay, I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now those mock ease run, twelves, but [SPEAKER_00]: to an SUV with the Mustang name on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: You're watering down the name of Mustang.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: People that are Mustang haters are going to go, well, it's gay anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what are you going to do?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't, you can't, you can't give them the blue checkmark that it's gay by putting it on an SUV, but they did.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when I just kind of started reverting.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you pay attention to my show and stuff, I just was like, [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I don't want to be part of Mustang.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be this.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's leaving me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't leave it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It left me for just went this way.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, you know, it's kind of sad though, man, because like that's that's like big part of your like your, your whole career, I guess, like that's about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You think about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: If there was a Mustang that I liked.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't think sales would happen if people like me, not me, I don't wanna be that big headed, that if I buy one, show you how to mod it, show you the people who go, whoa, I wanna do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: ESS superchargers, they sent me down a supercharger.
[SPEAKER_00]: I installed it in seven hours and tuned it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was often running, making seven, almost eight hundred horsepower on basic stuff, race gas, boosted pump.
[SPEAKER_00]: But people were like, oh, I bought this because of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, wow, I wonder if they gave you a Mustang that's tunable that I can mess with how sales would be affected.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just tunable, like tomorrow, if Ford was to flick a switch and say it's tunable, it would sell a thousand units, thousand units more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_00]: They won't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually it'll become tunable, but it'll be one of those things where you got to turn off the antenna.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got one of those things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, do you think it'll be too late when they do come out with a tuning for the the twenty fours?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: This this can segue into another conversation.
[SPEAKER_00]: the people that wanted to buy a new car to go fast, wanted to a different platform.
[SPEAKER_01]: All righty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I have seen people that used to be five old Mikey, five old Steve, become S-fifthier Johnny, S-this, A-N-N-D, this guy, G-III, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, they moved on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And these guys were FoxBody, S-fifthier, Gen-III, [SPEAKER_00]: BMW.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like that forced people to look the other direction.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ford forced people to look away.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now there's no charger.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now there's no charger.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now there's no comeryl.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's left?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's an M-II there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's an M-II there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's an M-II there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's an M-II there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's an M-II there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's an M-II there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's an M-II there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's all these M-II things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me look at that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's about the same price of an S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S- [SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather get something I can downpipe and go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eight thousand for a dock horse?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it depends on the trim.
[SPEAKER_00]: It can go up there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's like the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: The same as the one.
[SPEAKER_00]: But why would I get a dark horse that I can't tune?
[SPEAKER_00]: That the only thing I do is put a wipple on it, or I can have a, let's be honest, the interior's way nicer on those cars than a Mustang.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Mustang interior's not special.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's not a horse wasn't terrible.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've sat in one before.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was too bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the screen, you know?
[SPEAKER_03]: You like the screen.
[SPEAKER_00]: The two stamps on tablets on the beach.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was different.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'll definitely be for a Mustang for a must see.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: For a Mustang for a Mustang.
[SPEAKER_00]: You go, this is good for a Mustang as opposed to saying this is good.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want I want it if I'm going to spend eighty sixty thousand dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be able to sit in some gold this.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like this as opposed to [SPEAKER_00]: Any of them, I just got the corner cut off from the street or whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Mustang in series were never to me like appealing.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're doing appealing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So at the end of the day, it's like, what do you, what do you want the car for?
[SPEAKER_00]: And if it's one of those things where you're like, well, the interior is something I really value, then you don't get a Mustang.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're paying sixty to eighty thousand for something, don't you want it to be nice?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like don't you want the interior to be decent?
[SPEAKER_00]: I would.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually making me think that it's true, a lot of the other platforms, even in EVO we have here.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not dead, but here it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Other places, when I went to Australia, they're pushing that platform heavy.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're pushing EVO in Australia.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you think the culture is in Australia that allows them to push platforms that have long been [SPEAKER_00]: gone in the US.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like does the US have a disposable society where if it's not new and fresh now, it ain't shit?
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, with the evil, I'm not really sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: With the RB, it's just accessibility.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a cast blocks and so on.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're built, tuning, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they tuning, of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's another thing too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we don't have RBs here.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not, we didn't get that car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So over there, they have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is, they would say that about the US market with Mustangs, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: They only had them since the twenty-fifteen over there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you guys are so lucky.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have crown victorious.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: a crown they're talking they're like oh my this thing's gonna play I didn't you know like what the it's a taxi and they're like oh fucking amazing and I'm like okay it's it's exactly yeah right they're like like they come imagine you're you're you're not straightening all right and you pick them up from the airport in New York and you oh still this [SPEAKER_03]: No, they freak out.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was doing the same thing right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was not the same thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just opposite.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you freaking out on in Australia that made them go.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so big deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Older cars like there was a like a holding something which is there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Holdings are everywhere though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's like traffic car.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I was more freaked out about like a lot of the, the Sylvia's, like the astronauts, those are trap, a lot of, it's just traffic cars, like they drive them down there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So for me, it was like damn, you guys have these everywhere, like everybody has an S-for-team, but they had it, like they, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: You could buy, we dealership.
[SPEAKER_00]: We literally take Crown Vix and throw them off the edge of a cliff and crash it, just to see it, because it was like six hundred bucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, oh my God, a V-eight, four-door car, like they lose their money.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, I think of the U.S.
[SPEAKER_00]: we've lost that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we lost hot rotting when it comes to knowing stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: See, a lot of the new cars all you have to do is bolt on three or four things.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're really fast because the car's really good already.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas I grew up in these things behind me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, two hundred and twenty horse at the flywheel.
[SPEAKER_00]: So to run twelve, you had to know shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you had to go to the Barnes and Noble's, but to bookstore bookstore.
[SPEAKER_00]: They stole books there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you get to know Barnes and Noble's is still in business now.
[SPEAKER_03]: some of the kids might not know what that is.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we opened up a muscle muscles and fast forward magazine and we looked at the yo Ken article and he's like install these gears and saw these slapper bars and saw these brawl around that so then that's hot rotting so you have to like physically open up engines and do stuff whereas now knowing everything's on the outside you know downpipe everything is just put a blow around it with this bracket that's very well engineered and by the way your tuner is going to do everything else [SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, okay, so then you have a recipe, and then it's easy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So then, like, well, what's the next big thing?
[SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't a big challenge.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell, you would, if in nine, I'm gonna date myself.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you were a ten second Fox body owner in nineteen ninety nine, you were just King Dingling.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ten seconds, whoa.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you're ten seconds, you're like, you suck.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's stock numbers.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the hotrodding culture changed.
[SPEAKER_00]: It changed in the amount of labor.
[SPEAKER_00]: or knowledge that needed to be known to get into a platform.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now, tuners and bolt-on stuff just makes it so easy that maybe people have a, it's done.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm bored with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on to the next big thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Mustang kind of further that thought process, we can't do anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't.
[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing we can do is put a whip a lot on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna go over here.
[SPEAKER_03]: But when you can, the question is, we'll be worth it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you give me an example?
[SPEAKER_00]: Say more.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, like, like, like, if you once they do, once you are able to unlock or tune a twenty four, all these, like, will it be worth it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Will it be comparable to a, let's say a GAD, BMW, where you can just downpipe tune it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, so at S-X-X-V-D is in S-X-V-D.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever you had to do to that to make it run, it's the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So any assess, a pro charger, a ripple, yes, but why when you can do that right now with a previous platform, twenty three and under.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So is there any new platform that you're aware of that is up and coming that people are looking at going, that's the next big thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the next big platform that we might fuck with in the future.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think we're in it right now, the BMW.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, honestly, that world, it's like two universes, you know, orbiting each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it just grazes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the grazing of the universe has happened when Ford stopped loving you to in the twenty four and I went, what's going on over here?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, don't pipe.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean a dump?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to, oh, my chat.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean to downpipe to talk to me?
[SPEAKER_00]: So downpipe so you move the cats right downpipe you take the computer to Russia or something or Ukraine or whoever and they unlock it and then it comes back and then then you got to get e-fifty because the DI system after e-fifty is a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: So now I know this stuff where I two seconds ago I didn't know this stuff [SPEAKER_00]: And why do I know this stuff?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the Mustang is not able to be with at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that grazing of universes happened at that moment and Ford caused it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't cause it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not leave Ford Ford left me.
[SPEAKER_00]: If tuning comes back, what are you going to do different?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to blow my mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to throw a centrifugal on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've done that.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're still doing that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll further tuning another year or two.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll be more secure in my job that we'll be able to tune it for a little longer.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not excited for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I honestly started looking at dodges just to see that I said, nah, I just, it's just something, it's just another V-eight rule drive car that I do want to mess with.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then F-one-fifty, but not really because I tune them every day, so it's just like, there's nothing I want to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to do something that no one has done in the past, something unique to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mustang, I thought was going to be it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they were going to have like badass forge and turn on.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to run seven, but I'm like, we've done that.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've done that on previous generation.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, or the tenor AD is that much better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing they have or are coming up with makes me excited to be able to look into a Ford in the future.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if charger comes, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually genuinely excited over the hurricane engine on Dodgers.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to, I was actually going to bring that up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bro.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you looked into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Universes colliding now.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's the Dodgers universe smashing into me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going, wait a minute, tell me about this hurricane and the H.O.
[SPEAKER_00]: version.
[SPEAKER_00]: So now I saw a article where Dodgers like, yes, well, guys, we're going to release the V.A.
[SPEAKER_00]: to again.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's back.
[SPEAKER_00]: The V.A.
[SPEAKER_00]: three hundred and ninety five horsepower.
[SPEAKER_00]: the fuck outta here three a Nissan Ultima SE whatever the hell has that kind of power you're telling me you're bringing back the VA to make barely not even four hundred worse and the HO version of the hurricane is five fifty why the hell would I buy a V-Dod truck ever [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm blown away that people were like, oh, I six sucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it doesn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: That hurricane is legit.
[SPEAKER_00]: The five hundred fifty horse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they literally have JB four tuners now that like manipulate those things and have gained a good amount of power.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just like, again, I didn't know any of this stuff because once I started seeing that dodges doing something, BMW's doing something, the fuck's more doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: same coyote, same thing, untunable, and you're like, as a hot rod guy, I'm looking at what I can modify.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if I can't modify, I'm literally not looking at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wouldn't you know what you know now by a high output hurricane truck?
[SPEAKER_00]: The best hour looks for me, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, okay, so they make an RE show.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what that is, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the TRX with the hurricane.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really are each other really high output.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the TRX.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a TRX but it's really high output are each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not really a fan of the TRX though.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I have one for these the best looking truck to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Could you imagine?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna go there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you gonna steal the TRX?
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, oh, the TRX.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's the hell you at?
[UNKNOWN]: Stupid.
[UNKNOWN]: You had to go there, of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wouldn't be Alex Foccas.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you do that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you steal the Ari?
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: How?
[SPEAKER_00]: Three letters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Three letters.
[SPEAKER_00]: T, alright.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, that doesn't stop people from buying dodge though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, dodge did a while.
[SPEAKER_03]: People still buy it.
[SPEAKER_03]: No matter what, they don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: They did a wonderful thing in my opinion, catering to the [SPEAKER_00]: pop culture.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just say that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like dude, if you were certain places and you didn't have a dodge, you ain't shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pop culture.
[SPEAKER_00]: That ain't a pop culture in twenty twenty five is crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you don't want to mean pop culture, which one would say hip pop culture?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, hip pop culture.
[SPEAKER_00]: Meaning, meaning, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I knew what you meant, but I'll like he said pop culture is a funny time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like imagine you, you, you're somewhere and you roll up in a RT.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it goes like, that ain't no scat.
[SPEAKER_00]: How many songs are made about the RT Challenger and the RT?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not the Hellcat SRTs, this and that, this and that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they did a really good job of just leaning into that culture, maybe giving certain people cars.
[SPEAKER_00]: He would drive it here, beat it up, who cares?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do donuts in it, blow it up, we don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Put it in your video and people like, I gotta have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I gotta have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You think people say that about a Mustang?
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody says that about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have drifters, drifters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go on now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go on now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go to a drifth event and take a look at the audience.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you see?
[SPEAKER_00]: You see a lot of people that might be able to afford a sixty-done dollar car.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like I feel like the drift community or the culture is more like the skate skater crowd.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's like when I was younger like that was that kind of crowd, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a bad thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Were you a skater?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm just saying like looking at different crowds in high school, let's say like the the drifters are the skater deduits.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why do you think that is?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why did drifting?
[SPEAKER_00]: which isn't racing because the first of the finish line doesn't win.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why the drifting capture Mustangs attention?
[SPEAKER_00]: Ford must be like... That's what we got to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: That right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the future right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Forget this dragon.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, when did I, I've been to those events and it's hilarious that they're catering to that when the guys that do that just have a ship box and they have a camper kit or whatever the fuck earth steering angle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then an LS and a jacked up to forty and they don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then they say, well, that's what we need to cater to.
[SPEAKER_00]: We need to cater to this audience.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, no offense.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think those guys are buying sixty thousand dollar Mustangs, seventy thousand dollar Mustangs.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're buying shipbox.
[SPEAKER_03]: The drifting is going to be apparently like a big deal, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you going to be to who?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not racing.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what they say.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did a podcast with Adam Mozi.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys did a good job, but like as an assistant and he said that the sales are still just HQ.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are they selling parts to build cars?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like that must mean that obviously there's still it's a growing community.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: For me, it's kind of like, look, I do this for a living, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I do content for a living.
[SPEAKER_03]: And one of the downsides to doing this is always trying to find the next best thing because it's big thing or big thing, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you don't, you can fall off, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: So I look at everything like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I look at drifting, like that too.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I say, all right, well, if I were to get into it, what is the next five years look like for drifting?
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you tell me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know and I don't see it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't I don't see that being a thing where like everybody's going to get involved in it, but when you have platforms dying off like, let's say a Mustang where people aren't going to buy the newer cars, they're going to buy older cars and swap motors and stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: And do maybe don't listen to street or at the track, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: So it just becomes a thing where it's like, [SPEAKER_03]: How big is it gonna get?
[SPEAKER_03]: And what's the end?
[SPEAKER_03]: What's the end?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like what's the end game?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's for gonna make a drift ready vehicle.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know the RT.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they will.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they will.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the RTR to me is not something that you would go drifting in because it's a very high cost to entry.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty and you're not gonna slide it around now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't even understand, and again, this might be showing my age and might be showing my, um, my generation that does not understand it at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I look at drifting and I just shut, I switch to channel.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at his entry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Next, I will watch tennis, I will watch anything else because it's not racing.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is no racing aspect, there is no get to the finish line first.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's art, it's dance, it's this, it's that, I don't care, I don't care about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, all right, well, that's not racing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So why would Ford go, yes, is it because the kids are doing it?
[SPEAKER_00]: And if it's the kids, do those kids have money?
[SPEAKER_00]: Or are they just going to build like you set a ship box with an LS and drift?
[SPEAKER_00]: I know a guy that does a lot of coyote swap stuff, make it modular.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he has three valve, a lot of his specialties three valve, oh five to ten Mustang.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he sells the camera kits and this and the coyote swaps and in that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not in S-F-F-F-D.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you be psycho to take a twenty-five thousand dollar car, twenty-five thousand and then chop it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're going to take a four thousand three thousand dollar car, chop it up, throw a motor and if you hit a wall, you can't.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just kind of blown away that, again, Ford left us.
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is coming from a fan, a lifelong Mustang guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: My first car was a Mustang.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've always owned a Mustang.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even in my, my poorest, where I had no money, I always had a Mustang to keep me like, okay, you know, I have something fun and it kept me out from like depression and all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, okay, I have a nice little hot rod that I can, it's my escape now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: I look at that and I'm just like, you're, they need turnover.
[SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion, whoever the focus group people are, whoever are at the top, they need turnover in, nineteen ninety three.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Fox body was going to be the last Mustang.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were going to replace it with a Ford probe.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the sky named Coletti and a Coletti.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it Coletti?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was Coletti.
[SPEAKER_00]: SVT came in, special vehicle teams.
[SPEAKER_00]: a race oriented program and they made the ninety four Mustang they introduced the cobra then they introduced the ninety six cobra the ninety eight cobra the Ford SVT focus the contour SVT it became performance so I went back cool but the fox body was going to be gone until they had turnover I think they need that again [SPEAKER_00]: They need somebody at the top to say, hand me the keys, make this company relevant again, make it racy, because what we're doing is not working.
[SPEAKER_00]: Clearly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you feel like drag racing is a dying sport?
[SPEAKER_00]: What kind of drag racing?
[SPEAKER_00]: They're, okay, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's street racing, hot as ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Track at the track.
[SPEAKER_00]: What kind?
[SPEAKER_00]: No prep or prep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Prep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's dying.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's dying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because now I'm going from a perspective of asses in seats.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going from a perspective of racers enthusiastically getting into racing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's going to want to get into racing, but who wants to watch it?
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're not watching it, if a tree falls in the woods and no one's there to hear it make us, doesn't make us sound.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're never at a drag ship, nobody's seeing you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it popular?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is everyone at home watching flow racing and all these other things?
[SPEAKER_00]: Stream it on the internet and then I don't want to get out there and look at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go to a track and listen to top field drag cars.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go to a track and listen to promos.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go to a track and do any of that stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a forty seven year old man.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're in your twenties, do you want to do it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know a lot of twenty year old that are like [SPEAKER_00]: Man, I want to go to the track or hey, shut down the street and let's do donuts in the car intersection and jump over the hood of the car.
[SPEAKER_00]: That looks way more fun and dangerous, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So then you're like, okay, well, drag racing, I think in the capacity of [SPEAKER_00]: the eighties and even sixty seventies and eighties poppin but there was an internet yeah yeah so you that's all you could do to see like potentially dangerous shit now you know you have so much entertainment everywhere else to capture the attention span of the modern [SPEAKER_00]: person is real difficult you you damn you have to have a and and I'll get into this a little bit you have to have a bit of danger involved and that's why no preparation is still wildly popular yeah there's an event called war in the woods I don't know if you've ever heard of it but it's literally a it looks like someone's track in the forest
[SPEAKER_00]: And asses in seats.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying everyone's there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a hot ticket.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone in their mother is there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a no-prep flashlight start drag race event.
[SPEAKER_00]: And no-prep means chicken happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: And these cars ain't slouches.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're two, three thousand horsepower cars that are literally badass cars.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be like, [SPEAKER_00]: three second, eighth mile cars or low four second, eighth mile cars in a prep track.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're going down to no prep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when the accidents happen, they're ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, cars go flying up in the air.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's nuts.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is wildly popular.
[SPEAKER_00]: That racing that grass roots, backwards, [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, outlaw, renegade, stow, let's just get after it, race for money, fuck it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is hotter than ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: The organized, let's go NMRA and NCA.
[SPEAKER_00]: That should die.
[SPEAKER_00]: That should die.
[SPEAKER_00]: And people have tried to pick up the pieces by trying to like start little offshoots and regional offshoots of of of what was one say, [SPEAKER_00]: big event, but nothing fills the seat as don't crazy and no prep racing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And back half racing, meaning they race at the top end of the track and go back the other way, no prep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Orlando has more people show up to a no prep night than a testing tune on the Sunday morning.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're like, they're on a something.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's what kind of racing and am I into no prep?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, not my thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: My thing is, go to a fashion drag race in on a sticky track and science and really pretty cars and minimal traction loss, but that's dying, in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a little bit of controversy with TXQK and that being not as big as it used to be, which I agree it probably wasn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never been to Houston.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, I did always watch the after movies, the street racing and so on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, that's changed.
[SPEAKER_03]: They still do street race, but you have to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you the hell out there?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that definitely without a doubt affected the turnout of the allure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You understand, Texas, Tuket in its heyday, people came from the all over the world and they camped out at a Walmart parking lot with their camper, their car, and they just raised on those street.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't give him a fuck about the track stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I lived in Houston for a year and you can catch a race anytime, but Tuket [SPEAKER_00]: if you didn't make over a thousand keep your ass home because you ain't keeping up with nobody all these cards were legit.
[SPEAKER_00]: So then once I kind of graduated to like, okay, I worked for a company and the company then attended the race at Texas two K and at the race track.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, okay, this must be a completely different crowd.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now dude, the same mother room that were out there's free racing.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're racing at the track.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I went, whoa, this is different.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I remember I'll never forget there was a Friday night.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see twenty seventeen or so.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a Friday night.
[SPEAKER_00]: It mixed TX two K qualifying with open test and tune.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the hottest ticket in town.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not ever see more cars in the changing lanes than that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I in my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were all top to your cars, vipers as two thousand, you know, like really Billy bad at stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the, the, there was not AC in the, you could not say it, it packed.
[SPEAKER_00]: everybody and you'd launch and all the cell phones were out and I was able to do a test and tune pass and it was weird seeing that many people going down the track and I'm at the end of the track and just still people I'm like this is packed and I went like a nine seven but I beat some other car that was like a nine three car and I went there was so many people and then the next day I'm like not gonna be like this those people showed up the next day packed and I was like this is cool but that was twenty seventeen and then all of a sudden you started seeing things sort of day down [SPEAKER_00]: was like, it just killed off a lot of people's desire to go outside even.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then once two K ended and Houston, they, I'm not, this is their second year there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to give them some time because on a Saturday, that bitch was packed.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, well, this is packed on a Saturday, but last year, last year, but this year, not that much, but it was never nearly as packed as it was in Houston.
[SPEAKER_00]: Houston is special.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are those years.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say, twenty, fifteen to twenty, eighteen Houston, maybe guys that live in Houston will say, no, eleven was better in my experience.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fifteen to seventeen Houston was gop stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was so badass like like you'd see two hundred twenty mile an hour pulls on the highway and I'm like what are these people doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: GTR for my video and it was crazy all those YouTube videos I would watch are like those big videos because like that's it if you weren't there you'd get to see it exactly but we don't really have that [SPEAKER_03]: They're they're they're still making videos, but it's not the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not the same as like those.
[SPEAKER_00]: You notice there's a die off.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's just more takeover.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's different.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's shifting is something else and I think maybe like you said forward is trying to get in front of it by getting the the drifting crowd personally [SPEAKER_00]: Again, that universe has not collided with me, just like BMW did and dodged it, but maybe if the drifting culture goes, all right, maybe you know, one day I wake up and I got a bump on my lip, I'm like, let me go a little at this, this drifting stuff, and maybe that'll make sense one day.
[SPEAKER_00]: But right now, [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what their overall intention is with the platform, but I don't think it's, I don't think it's rifting.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just think that maybe they're experimenting of it, maybe trying to figure out where, what direction are they going to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to potentially losing the car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sales are nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They sold five thousand cars since the beginning of the year.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's enough to just make a quick change, though.
[SPEAKER_00]: How long was that dodge out for?
[SPEAKER_03]: How long was the EV Dodge out for?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just different.
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole company is going to shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Ford has the F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F-one, F- [SPEAKER_00]: But it's sold.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's sold like crazy because at the time the gas crisis blah blah blah blah blah, but they still made it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Fox body, but Camaro they stopped me.
[SPEAKER_00]: They stopped making it from one year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then it came back out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now they stopped making it again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Charger, Challenger stopped making it came back.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now they stopped making it again.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now they're going to EV it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're going to stop it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mustang has always been something.
[SPEAKER_00]: So imagine if they experiment so much that they lose their dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: They could have done nothing and sold more than they did now.
[SPEAKER_00]: They could have made the twenty three looking the twenty four looking exactly the twenty three same computer same bullshit tunable.
[SPEAKER_00]: They would have not lost a dime.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were all yeah we sold a little under but not worse than ever worse sales year ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm shocked that there isn't somebody at Ford right now not losing their shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we're gonna lose Mustang.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're leaving us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, the sales are done.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do we do now?
[SPEAKER_03]: You said five thousand?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was five thousand units in since the beginning of this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm not mistaken.
[SPEAKER_00]: And get, did you?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't even notice.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only car they make.
[SPEAKER_00]: Think about what cars do Ford make?
[SPEAKER_00]: Cars.
[SPEAKER_00]: Automobiles Ford.
[SPEAKER_03]: They still got the list.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the only car they made must as a man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look up Ford cars.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the only car they make.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not an SUV, not a crossover, not a weird thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I literally think the only car, why?
[SPEAKER_00]: Kia makes a car, can't make a car, Nissan makes a car.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, all these offshoots make a better car than Ford ever did.
[SPEAKER_00]: So now what if they start making better hot rods?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like look, the BMW, you know what, maybe blow my mind if the BMW kills the Mustang.
[SPEAKER_00]: If the BMW is such a popular platform that people just want, I want to go there and it kills the Mustang.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but then what?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is, I think this is a bigger.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you mean then what?
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you go to the BMW, you get a downpipe tune, you go fast.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cool, then what?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really slide on the ops.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you do.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you do?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you, it's it's it's like the same thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're in a time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's bigger than the four thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's just.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but Ford is the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just that a bigger scale.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I have to do more with the Ford than you can with the BMW.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, oh.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna get some emails because I think you got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I won't think about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's the record on a forward on a Mustang?
[SPEAKER_03]: The fastest.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no BMW.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, well before I say that on a Mustang that mostly resembles a normal body.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say it mid-sixes because people are gonna go with the promo, you know, stupid.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so like on a street on a stock on stock chassis six sixes.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been in the sixes sixes.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no BMW going now.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that it's not possible.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're seven.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's the record on a super.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's probably like a seven six.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, seven six.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's fairly new.
[SPEAKER_00]: The most expensive in us is twenty fifteen.
[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm saying is is I don't think it's going to kill it in the sense that it's a better platform.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the platform that people just gravitated to.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's better.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think people just want [SPEAKER_00]: Truck, that's why truck is so badass.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why truck is, it's all will drive, you can do dig racing, but turbo, but again, if it's not tunable, you might kill that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Truck F-one-fifty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Truck F-one-fifty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm talking about BMW.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm saying that's why maybe Ford just put all their eggs in the truck basket.
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, well, we're willing to live with five thousand Mustang sales in a quarter if the truck takes off.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we sold ten thousand more units in the truck, then we would have the previous year, then it's worth it to only give you five thousand Mustangs.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then what happens to Mustang fan?
[SPEAKER_00]: What happens to the Mustang fan that says, dang, you know, like the weird weirdo, that, you know, the similar to a Corvette owner.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys are gonna be like, whoa, there's no more stands around.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are we gonna do?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say it sucks, and I'm sad it left us, but I wouldn't be like, it's the end of the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those people would be like, there are internet arguments right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: People say, well, the Mustang never stop being made.
[SPEAKER_00]: What if it does?
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you got there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There goes that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It goes the way of the Camaro, the charger, the Challenger.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the tried and true car that survived all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stupid question.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do they still make a G.C.
[SPEAKER_03]: five hundred?
[SPEAKER_00]: There, no, but supposedly there's test meals that are showing a GT-BiPhone or driver on Michigan right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's supposedly coming up.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a GT-BiPhone that's supposed to be offered by Ford.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's up, but we don't even know about the motor or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably going to be that that five point two, you know, lower DCT unless they have something up there sleeve.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, um, so there's, there was rumors and a UAW guy, United Auto Workers guy put on a memo on Reddit or something that said that they're now building the motor called the legend.
[SPEAKER_00]: which is not predator but legend in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it could be.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine it isn't a dual overhead cam something maybe five and a half liter something more inspired by more of their race stuff as opposed to the five two but I don't know and it might be DCT again but I don't know that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of those things that no one really knows.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ford keeps it on the wraps.
[SPEAKER_00]: Corvette, we knew it was going to be a dual overhead cam to interval car for two or three years or more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ford is keeping that pretty pretty good on the wraps.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure someone's going to get access and give you, I used to have a connection, but that connection's gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: It supposedly, it's either going to be a G-D-V-Hunder or a Cobra or something along those lines where it's supercharged, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because never has there been, I might be mistaken, but there has never been a year where G-T-T-T-T-T was made and a Cobra was made.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's either one of the other.
[SPEAKER_00]: All three or four Cobra?
[SPEAKER_00]: No G-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to go back in the Fox Monday days to me that doesn't count at all, but I think because there is a GT-T-T-T that Shelby took over again, which basically took a GT, they put a whip along it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're just spending, they're like GT-T-Fifty for a hundred thousand bucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, okay, so I don't know that they'll do a GT-Five hundred.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the same breath where Shelby has control of the three-fifty name.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if it'll be boss or, or, for twenty-nine boss or, or, who knows, more, Cobra, which Cobraos would love.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cobraos would love the Cobra to come back.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that'd be sick.
[SPEAKER_00]: That'd be cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: That'd be that.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll bring a lot of people back.
[SPEAKER_00]: And imagine if it's stick-shift.
[SPEAKER_00]: Imagine if it's a hundred horsepower stick-shift.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right back, right back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, how much is that gonna cost?
[SPEAKER_00]: Hundred thousand dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: One hundred thousand dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: A supercharged factory Mustang will be one hundred thousand dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just like that one was.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when people say that one, there's a predator, GD-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was one of those things where it's like, [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a hundred thousand dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're going to start going, what else do I have around for a hundred thousand bucks?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Once it gets and I feel like once those cars get into, that kind of stuff gets in like a hundred thousand.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's done.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a hundred thousand dollars brand new, but it was tunable right away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right away, we took it, we tuned it, made eight hundred ninety or something wheeled like a week after we owned it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And guess what, that is a hot seller.
[SPEAKER_00]: People love that car.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't get any time it comes up for sale, boom, people scoop it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if there's like a, a hundred plus horsepower, supercharged Mustang, it's from the factory at a Wipple tune, it's gonna be a hundred thousand bucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: At that point, I'm like, what are we doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who are we catering to?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I mean, once you're in that price range, it's like your, that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Totally blows it out of the water.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're like, what am I gonna do?
[SPEAKER_00]: As a tuner, I'm glad it's coming out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And someone's gonna buy it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, but are you excited about it?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: If that thing had twin turbos and all will drive, now we're talking.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that will drive, all will drive.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have since twenty, twenty have advocated forward to release a three point five eco boost, all will drive hybrid Mustang.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, put some motors in the front and guess who did it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Corvette, the E-Ray.
[SPEAKER_00]: things badass.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ten sixes runs ten sixes has launch control, DCT, and but it's a hundred thousand dollars, but it's quicker than the zero six and zero sixty and in the quarter mile.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's less money, but it's quicker than the zero six.
[SPEAKER_00]: Huh, only if Ford would have introduced an all-wheel drive, twin turbo.
[SPEAKER_00]: small, you know, reinvented there.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have equal boosts.
[SPEAKER_00]: So why not just make some, I know it's going to be expensive, but like you wouldn't be excited over a twin turbo anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: All will drive Mustang.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I can't picture that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just picture old drive cars.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you know, cars like this or like DMW, G eighties extra.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you look at a C a Corrette, do you think that could be all will drive?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Any Corvette.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when you see that thing once you go, it messes with your head.
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw it do a four wheel drift in a huge nasty circle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, I want that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why, but I wanted that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was badass.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he would launch it over and over and over and it would run ten six over and over and over.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, this is it.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a guy that has one on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_00]: He just put a set of wheels on it, has owned for a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: He just goes out there just drag races every day and it runs ten, seven, ten, six, ten, seven, six, like it's clockwork.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I'd be happy there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Ford missed the performance boat.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know how they're going to gain it back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this G-D-D-V-Hunter or Colbert or whatever it is coming up will change my mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: But until I see it, [SPEAKER_00]: I'm down on Ford.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's still back here.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not in front of me anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of, I kind of just gone by it.
[SPEAKER_03]: shame.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it looks like there's no, uh, there's no, oh, I guess there could be a future for Ford, but hopefully they do make it turn around.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what the malaise era is?
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever heard of that term?
[SPEAKER_00]: The malaise era?
[SPEAKER_00]: In the seventies, there was a era where because of the gas crisis, cars were made like shit, like big boats that had a hundred and eighty horsepower, really low horsepower, really shitty cars, and then then then came the Dodge Omnis and the K cars.
[SPEAKER_00]: These little pieces of junk gas sipping cars.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think [SPEAKER_00]: were in a malaise era for Ford when it comes to performance vehicles.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a law, others are doing better, we're just kind of doing thing, and they can come back.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can always come back, but I think this is an era of like, don't expect too much out of Ford right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, people say, what about a wipple?
[SPEAKER_00]: That is an aftermarket company.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't look at that and go, that is a Ford part.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is an aftermarket company.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: From Ford, I don't see anything that's exciting me right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have a three, fifty.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have G.J.
[SPEAKER_00]: five hundred for the last two years.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have a dark horse.
[SPEAKER_00]: A Katy Perry song.
[SPEAKER_00]: A wine.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the first song.
[SPEAKER_00]: A wine.
[SPEAKER_00]: A wine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen the wine at Target?
[SPEAKER_00]: Dark Horse?
[SPEAKER_00]: Same logo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Same logo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Check it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Same logo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Same fucking logo.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have one of my show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I drink out of it with someone pisses me off.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I get pissed off enough, I'll leave tuning.
[SPEAKER_00]: I cross off when someone pisses me off enough and then when I'm done, I quit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I quit.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, nope, I fucked this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm at the top still, so we're good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's a nice, um, it's cool looking.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good looking car.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna die until a good looking car, but doesn't make you go, whoa, I need one of those.
[SPEAKER_00]: What car right now makes you, too, go?
[SPEAKER_00]: Holy shit, that thing's badass.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I could afford it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish I could.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It involves emotion.
[SPEAKER_03]: We, like, this is not an exotic, of course, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: It could be a hundred, a hundred thousand dollar cap.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cap.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cap.
[SPEAKER_00]: E-ray.
[SPEAKER_00]: E-ray.
[SPEAKER_01]: E-ray.
[SPEAKER_00]: E-ray.
[SPEAKER_00]: Makes me hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: Crack a wall note with it hard.
[SPEAKER_03]: Damn, but there's nothing new that's like, just missed that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you paid attention much to the corporate stuff?
[SPEAKER_03]: I have, I just, they all look the same though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, they'll see a body like court.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be in W's look the same month.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and honestly, if you don't get it, okay, actually, maybe maybe a, maybe an M to same same.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why I look at an M to as the only other, it reminds me of a notch back.
[SPEAKER_00]: It reminds me of a little holder.
[SPEAKER_00]: It has a holder style.
[SPEAKER_00]: It has a trunk.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a notch back.
[SPEAKER_00]: BMW gave you a fucking fuck spotty stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave you the M-II.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave you a big body, two door.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave you an M-III.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave you a four door.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave you G-A-E-D.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave you a performance.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave you a comp.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave you a freaking SUV with that motor.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave you everything you wanted.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave you everything you wanted and what did Ford give us?
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave us an untunable twenty-four most thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So of course, people are going to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's that over there?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I was driving home and I heard something burping and I'm like, what the hell's that noise?
[SPEAKER_00]: M two low black wheels.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, the white body is exhaust.
[SPEAKER_03]: It might have been stock.
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like it has no this thing was loud and it was whistling and doing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like the body of it has that look to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the body might be, yeah, okay, the body stock, but the wheel offset was mint the exhaust.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was blue, shiny, pretty, making all the right noises, stick shift.
[SPEAKER_00]: I went, stick shift.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bunch too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh my god, I think I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was like, I would just tool around of that thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it would drive to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it reminded me of a notch back.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go, that's a little notch.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little, it's a smallest version.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can get a nest with the Aiden.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, they gave you everything you wanted in every package imaginable for just gave you the same S.Y.
[SPEAKER_00]: fifty with a different nose.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, of course, people are going to look over there and go, yeah, I want that.
[SPEAKER_03]: So then people just buy an F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F- [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of Chevy guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's flying off the bit like bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the coyote, gen four or five, which is the newest one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you're going to have an issue with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're going to get good miles per gallon.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll be shocked.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll good miles per gallon here.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is getting good miles per gallon.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a comfortable daily.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the modern station wagon.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if in the future, it becomes tunable.
[SPEAKER_00]: slap a blow or on it and there's your ten second truck that you can just drive anywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: You are a low eleven second truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like that that's why I think Ford goes we're not going to fuck with the Mustang too much if they want to do other stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got seventeen versions of the F on fifty.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a two seven eco boost.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a three five eco boost.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a five leader.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a Raptor R. We got a two fifty three.
[SPEAKER_00]: They got that's the option vehicle Mustang isn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm still like in my head on my team.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've got to be something that's less than a hundred thousand.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I think that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: E-rays the only one and the more I look at it, the more I like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't set off emotion, the performance does.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, not the look of performance.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, that is badass.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like people, people that don't know much, they'll say the zeosix is better because of the flat playing crank.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what does that mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me in your mind, what does that mean to have a flat playing crank is better?
[SPEAKER_00]: This one is quicker.
[SPEAKER_00]: This one is all will drive.
[SPEAKER_00]: This one is cheaper.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is it better to have a flat playing crank?
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it going to do for you?
[SPEAKER_00]: Except the sound, and it's that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the sound.
[SPEAKER_00]: They just go, oh man, this thing goes left for the crank.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what does that mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: What does that mean to you?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is other podcasts that literally every clip is why a zeosixer is better than any other supercar or whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like they talk about zeosix every single podcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: How it's like the best car ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the ERA is better.
[SPEAKER_03]: Almost every much every clip it's like dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yo, it's like a zeosix podcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you hear things like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, why is it better or flat plate?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's flat plate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what does that mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's flat plate.
[SPEAKER_00]: It goes like this.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but you need to explain to me as if why it's better because it has no torque.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like flat plane crank vehicles generally don't have any torque.
[SPEAKER_00]: A GT-T-T-T feels lazy as hell under five thousand RPMs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lazy as hell.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I need's eighty two hundred RPMs.
[SPEAKER_00]: A factory rev limiter's eighty two hundred.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it feels good.
[SPEAKER_00]: So people go flat plate and crank.
[SPEAKER_00]: What does that mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: It means nothing to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: What makes that car special is the twelve and a half to one compression that's still under heads, the cams and the RPMs.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you put it across playing crank GT-V-Hundred with the same shit, it's going to be more torque and desirable and you won't be saying flip.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever heard that you will go cross playing cranks?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like no one's ever said that, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: All the things that across playing cranks.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, no one's ever said that, but flat playing crank for whatever reason has people believing that it's something that it isn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a sound.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a sound.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't be wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: A good sounding car is nice, but again, that's why the RHA argument, the real high output hurricane, the HL hurricane, is a better motor than any ram V-A that came in any truck ever in history except the TRX.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only one that's like, okay, V-A badass, but the R-H-O, straight, six, turbo, tunable, today, come on, it's not even close, but they're somehow excited to release the V-A in it because of the sound.
[SPEAKER_00]: Could you imagine people buying cars because of the sound, even though the performance works?
[SPEAKER_00]: It performs worse.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, um, oh, you are B guy because RB, uh, brother RB.
[SPEAKER_00]: So wait, wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to talk about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, I don't know anything about the RB platform, but you got away from the S-fifth-eight to RB swap it so that it would.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got B-fth-eight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: B-fth-eight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why get rid of that for an RB?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it the sound purely the sound?
[SPEAKER_03]: This, yeah, hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like just to be honest, like it's a sound.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not even trying to think.
[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate and be like trying to be delusioned.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's better.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, no, I just think it's sound.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it looks better.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And which is kind of weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's less busy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Less busy.
[SPEAKER_03]: The valve covers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, the RB probably is one of the best looking motors at any other JDM motor to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like just the valve covers, RB twenty six, not the twenty five.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: But sound looks, and I think that's pretty much it, honestly.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to say here and try to eat illusion when we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's just sound and looks, honestly.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's very fitting for that car.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that motor in that car with the body lines and everything, I think it fits pretty well.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting, you say that, because one of the best sounding Mustangs ever is one of the weakest, the three valve.
[SPEAKER_00]: The three valve sounds fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: The two valve sounds fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: The multis are mid-mounted in a two valve.
[SPEAKER_00]: The three valve has the multis in the back, but for whatever reason, whether it's the firing order, cylinder head design, cam, whatever, it sounds great.
[SPEAKER_00]: The coyote sounds good, but most of the douche bags that put more love below my ears away, [SPEAKER_00]: In the car with a straight pipe, everyone thinks that's how it sounds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it sounds like shit because of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, Magnaflow adult series, the street series.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say the adult series.
[SPEAKER_00]: Magnaflow adult series exhaust expipe and some headers and you're done.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to keep the cats, keep the cats.
[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds wonderful.
[SPEAKER_00]: But everyone's been sold to louder is better.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they get the board attacks and the aggressive stupid.
[SPEAKER_00]: sounds so tech like it's so annoying right and then go to knowing and then you hear these you know ls guy like one of the worst things I'll ever heard of the straight pipe Mustang and I'm like not every Mustang straight pipe sounds like that so then you hear like the gray goose blue goose that that car you [SPEAKER_00]: the clip on Instagram, you should hear this thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds good, it's, it was at a loss.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go with the fuck out, it's a coyote and they're like, no way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not sounding like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it does.
[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds really good, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is a, I don't even know what kind of exhaust.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it is not like more love, attack, or kill the ears, nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a adultery.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I understand the sound aspect, but and maybe that's why people want to buy a Dodge truck with a V-A to keep the sound.
[SPEAKER_00]: But to get, [SPEAKER_03]: But the performance isn't bad on the RB either if you build it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm just saying because you mentioned like people would sacrifice something just to have less performance, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: So I knew if I was going to put a RB in the car, it was going to have the performance act that it's going to be fully built to the T, of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: How long it's going to last?
[SPEAKER_03]: Who knows?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they less reliable than S-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good question.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now people would be like, generally, generally, because the B-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f- [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, that's not even true either because you have to, what do you have oil pump gears for a Mustang?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Does it mean it's a shitty platform because of that?
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Once you assess the issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pretty good.
[SPEAKER_03]: So once you assess the oil issues with the same thing actually.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, oil pump.
[SPEAKER_03]: The gears, they break chatter.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they put billet ones in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Billet ones exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's kind of similar.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of things to do to black off wheels, oil galleries, and the black and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But once you figure out the oil and you're good, it'll live.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm kind of blown away that I see some podcasts and other people talk about like, you know, this stock motor holds fifteen thousand horsepower and I'm like, okay, you know, we know some people can make some power for how long who knows.
[SPEAKER_00]: I generally don't know the deficiencies of some of the platforms that would make it desirable or undesirable, but I see a lot of people running a certain number with a S or B fifty eight and then are being not so much, but you say mostly because we never got it right here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We never got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that people aren't aware.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got the two J here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Two J two J two J people are like well, which is which is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: And honestly, it's it's [SPEAKER_03]: It's a better.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a better motor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Technically it hurt.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did that hurt?
[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like your face was like, I feel like people.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just better motor.
[SPEAKER_03]: People just feel like it's like they think you're delusional.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, why would you put that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's always the why would you do something like that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's an internal struggle with Mustang guys like a dinosaur four point six five point four five point eight guys swear to God that that motor is better than the coyote because one guy one time went fives with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's not the case with RB, but I feel you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: These guys are going like these guys are running sixes with with the RB.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's and sounds great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: The way they chop is pretty nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, this is pretty.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I understand the sound aspect, but I became a coyote fan because of right off the rip.
[SPEAKER_00]: It can make power and it's literally no modifications except [SPEAKER_00]: boost, which have to save up for.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people say, well, why can't I work my way up to something?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, because the cost per output, it's just not worth it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would just wait, wait, wait, wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: F, one, fifty, chill.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do your thing podcast hits a million subs, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden, hey, I'm here's a whip over Twin Turbos.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, I'm doing good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly, I think you're in a good spot if you get a brand new one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause you know, terms are better, financing better, interest rates better.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's still a coyote.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you can get into one quadcap, not a shortbed regular cab.
[SPEAKER_00]: And be happy for years.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then once you throw boost at it, whether it's a wipple, a pro charger, whatever you want to throw in there, I think at Tempsi on Pumpcast, you'll be so happy.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, I don't need anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got my Supra if I want to go fast and fuck around.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this will be my day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just a toe, just a toe.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they say.
[SPEAKER_00]: I started looking at super charges for the escalator.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yeah, I think good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like shut the hell up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I look at Brembo Brakes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I look at blowers.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like stop.
[SPEAKER_00]: Stop.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a sickness.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a sickness and I understand it because I have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just a matter of, you know, like, tamping it down and knowing that, you know, you're crazy for doing this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm growing up because I, I, I understood that racing had no future in it for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's nothing but broke.
[SPEAKER_00]: bank accounts with hundred percent comes to racing because first why are you racing right I sat down when talk I'll be honest I had come to Jesus moment why am I racing who am I who am I trying to impress are those people my peers [SPEAKER_00]: Am I satisfied after a race weekend?
[SPEAKER_00]: And everything was no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything was no.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I went, huh, who are my peers?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who are the people I want to hang out with?
[SPEAKER_00]: The garage we're in right now was a guy that used to race all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Stop racing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not as pretty bad as garage, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, I wonder if this can be, you know, something similar because you have to make, don't get me wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: He probably raised tomorrow if he could.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's one of those things where he's just like it's not a it's not like I'm not chasing something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I try to be the man for who for Facebook for some group you like who I said not and then when I started building cars to go on the street like I have a G.D.
[SPEAKER_00]: five hundred and that is that was an all-out race car turbo four hundred people [SPEAKER_00]: I made it into a street car and I could drive that sucker every day makes about eight hundred wheel right now maybe nine and I could catch a race and it's Temperatures good manual now instead of a turbo four hundred and I'm like this is fun I could take it on the cool night and do my thing catch a race here and there park it back in the park back in the garage and I'm good as opposed to tow it somewhere race [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, some people just, I get it, it may be their business, maybe their engine builders, chassis builders, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I saw the future in racing wasn't for me, and I got into more street car stuff, you can catch more races, just messing around on the street here in Palm Beach County, and it was more satisfying for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's when I started kind of seeing the, me kind of distancing my way from the hardcore racer.
[SPEAKER_00]: And believe it or not, as a tuner, I try to, I hate to say I'm preachy, [SPEAKER_00]: I am.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you want to do?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, well, I just want to go sevens.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, why?
[SPEAKER_00]: For who?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, no, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that's just the logical next step.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, based on who?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, fuck you right, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just build it to go eight, fifties.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, ah, there we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they go eight, fifties to a test and tune and drive it home.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're happy to shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, if you can't do that in a modern vehicle, [SPEAKER_00]: Meaning, have it do everything it can do and be as quick as possible.
[SPEAKER_00]: It becomes less desirable for people.
[SPEAKER_00]: So right now, you can only do certain things on the newer platforms or nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they stick to the old stuff or build old stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those things where based on my experience, there's been a lot of evolutions as to why I want to vehicle sound performance this and this and that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I want really fast street cars.
[SPEAKER_00]: really stressed street cars is I'd love to have a a hundred to a thousand horsepower street car with AC.
[SPEAKER_03]: old street car, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pump, pump, eighty five, and be a happy cat.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to tow your car, five hundred miles away, and race for four days, and come back, ten thousand dollars, leaner in your pocket.
[SPEAKER_00]: God bless you.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just just not something I want to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it took a lot of like maturing sort of to kind of figure that out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know where we're going with this, but it was one of those things where I see people chase something that [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't know why they're chasing and I think they do that with platforms Yeah, they want to be the next okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh you I met people that were fast on one platform Everyone hated them because he was a douchebag, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he completely left that platform and went to this platform that nobody knew him and you came to do a spag there, too And I went what do you do what what's the goal just to be the douchebag of every platform?
[SPEAKER_00]: It was it was odd to me so I was just like I'm not looking to impress anybody in any platform.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking to have fun and [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a simple dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go out, blow off some steam, come back home, car still running.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy cats.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that should be everybody's goal.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's why I also love this shortly a lot too, because everything's like street cars over there.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're big on like having street cars.
[SPEAKER_03]: Australia.
[SPEAKER_03]: Big on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: If it don't drive on the street, it ain't shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, but even even their race car stuff is on the street.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even like the world's fastest RB.
[SPEAKER_03]: The black one, the black one, if it's a street car, like windows, everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like a car.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't look like a machine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that to me is desirable.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're good at doing that over there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they have like crazy rotaries and crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they have, you know, big, you know, uh, blow or sticking out of the hood, but they drive them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They drive them somewhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, that's desirable to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get me wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was one of those guys that I thought I wanted to go and just [SPEAKER_00]: campaign all over the country, and I'm like, for what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who am I going to impress?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've met people that have campaigned on these racing events, and nobody knows their name, nobody knows who they are.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're winners too.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're very good.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're very good at the craft.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm like, why'd you do that?
[SPEAKER_00]: For you, and they're like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought it was the next logical step, so I did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like getting caught in a wave and you're like, I guess I'm gonna ride it because I'm caught in it as opposed to stopping and going, why am I doing this?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then going, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do I want to do this or not?
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing that you're doing is great because it's gonna be like, you need to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: The sound you're gonna like, people are gonna be like, you could promote it, you could enjoy it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a platform that you like, you like how the engine looks.
[SPEAKER_00]: People might say, you suck, you're doing something stupid, but fuck them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know if that's really about me.
[SPEAKER_00]: You really?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but the people say it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't know why you're doing that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you put a two-day in there to Toyota?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not got a ton of the two-day stuff, but I honestly like chances are those people who say that could not afford to put a RB in a Subaru.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting, you say that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm not even saying that just talk about, but because it's expensive.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's hurting my pockets a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, the sacrifices have already been made.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, where are the fastest and best racers at a racetrack?
[SPEAKER_03]: Where are they?
[SPEAKER_00]: Where are they?
[SPEAKER_00]: When you go to a racetrack, where are the best racers located at a racetrack?
[SPEAKER_00]: The best ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the stands.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got one of those in the garage.
[SPEAKER_00]: I used to be fast in that guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, wait, I have to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Back in my day, I used to every single time you go to online is the new stands.
[SPEAKER_00]: that car sucks then you look at his profile picture going like he's doing this and this is literally a trailer and you're like and then you go okay do I punk him or do I go and you're like no he's just he is the guy in the stands growing up every guy in the stands would show up to watch racers race but he would swear to god he is the baddest mf on the planet [SPEAKER_00]: That's the guy's online right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, they'll try to make fun of your situation like they know your situation, but they don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're just frustrated.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not in the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, ah, boo, like baseball.
[SPEAKER_00]: The fans like boo, you suck.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, bro, you try to hit the game.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're not in the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not in the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're gonna hate from afar.
[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, if you don't got haters, you ain't, you're not doing anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, a hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the one thing I wish I looked at everything that way with the car.
[SPEAKER_00]: is what it is man like I don't know it's most people aren't gonna do it like I said so you know it's gonna probably happen with you if you do get a death from fifty you're gonna end up in the Mustangs sooner or later you're gonna go damn damn this truck is nice this truck is nice this truck is nice I would get a GT-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T [SPEAKER_03]: What a DT-five on you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like, yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder what a GT would look like.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I feel like a Boss number two.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, Boss number two.
[SPEAKER_00]: Solid axle.
[SPEAKER_00]: You hit a curb.
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing just switches the lane.
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ah, it got to be a DT-five.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I told you that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you said you'd f with one of these.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get it, but it's a beautiful car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but like, it's in us like fifty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but like, it's in us like fifty.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like bolt on.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a GT-five hundred though.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know.
[SPEAKER_00]: But so to why, but I don't look at it as some bad ass thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go, I have a GT and the GT by a hundred and I go, I like both because they look the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could swap engines, like a swap engine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or I can get a Shelby.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a Shelby F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F [SPEAKER_00]: if there's a way to put it on the car if there's a way like a you think you think in your heart of hearts if you buy a Shelby up on fifty that it is special over a regular up on fifty if you see okay if you see a regular up on fifty pull up next to a Shelby which one you jump which one are you going to take oh if I see a Shelby F-one fifty next to a regular one yeah what am I doing with it
[SPEAKER_00]: What am I doing with it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Lookwise, I'm talking my presentation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like when you see the two together.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate Shelby stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate the badging.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate the snake.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate the I hate the stripes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it looks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a hater.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a Shelby number one hate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry man.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a Shelby Hader.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a Shelby American.
[SPEAKER_00]: They put that stupid logo on the on socks.
[SPEAKER_00]: They put it on luggage.
[SPEAKER_00]: They put it on Hawaiian shirts.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't give a fuck about Shelby Badging stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I look at an F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M-F-M [SPEAKER_00]: You know the VIN number comes back as F-one-fifty.
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't come back as Shelby.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, you gotta, I know I sound crazy right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was people on the comments like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tuxes is bugging, but yeah now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you look at it, you go, it's different looking and it has an aggressive look.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just look, just look.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when I see a Shelby F-two-fifty diesel, I go, what Shelby, you know, it's just, you guys tacked on thirty thousand bucks by putting three logos on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not really Shelby Hader because Shelby's gonna call my boss ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this son of a bitch has a good fire.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that would be a feather on my cap.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that'd be a feather on my cap if Shelby called my boss.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just don't see anything special about the F-one-fifty variant because it's the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just look, this is a bumper.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the only thing I can do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so why don't you buy a Mustang and put a Shelby bullshit on it?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not the same thing though.
[SPEAKER_03]: How do you mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Nah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the second and the same thing because they have fun with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nah, that's the same thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nah, that's the same thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think for these, the truck is bad ass.
[SPEAKER_03]: It looks good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Paint match, everything like, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Paint match.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got a paint match, everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got a whole paint paint match over the top.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know how to present it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't get that crap, that plastic shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: You get that like the nice paint match.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would support, I would be happy for you if you can describe everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just personally would not.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alejandro Flores would not buy Shelby.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to buy one and then pull up to his house and surprise him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you've seen this reaction.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, apparently in the internet, I live in a one one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I live in a can apparently, so you have to find the can.
[SPEAKER_00]: I live in on the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, kick the can and I'll come on.
[SPEAKER_00]: back to your original talking point about buying in f-one fifty it's probably the best vehicle you can buy it's so utility and if you ever in the future want to go racing with it you can even if it's a quadcap it's just a coyote it's a ten or eight who's racing a quadcap though uh midnight [SPEAKER_00]: Midnight performance had a nine second if I'm not mistaken quadcat twin-turbo truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was twin-turbo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Talking racing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And nine second twin-turbo?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was nine second twin-turbo.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's been eight second quadcat trucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, twin-turbo though.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, plasma man, bill motor, thirty-peat, you know, stupid.
[SPEAKER_00]: I in second do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do I want to go nine second in the truck?
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't feel fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's slow.
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels slow.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's big.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just the win resistance.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird, but it's not.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, it's scare me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eleven's in a fox body.
[SPEAKER_00]: You think you're going to die because it's just rattling and it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: But F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F- [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, thirty PSI.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's say low-knives is pretty, it'd be pretty pretty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I probably wouldn't want to go low-knives in a truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a square brick going down the, I probably wouldn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we don't even know how fast.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, those guys are going either, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, those are different levels.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are those are guys going.
[SPEAKER_00]: But wait, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's two quarters though.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't want to go above.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, there's an eighth.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can kind of like make the, the, the, the, the.
[SPEAKER_00]: They posted times.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they post draggy, and you know how draggy is.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what, what are the, what are the eighth mile times?
[SPEAKER_03]: Five, fifty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so what is the five you're doing according something eight seventy right and then and some have posted low five five three two which is like low eights.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a high seven.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a high seven on the street with a truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, it's, again, not the quadcap.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Full build RCSB.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, when they post a dragging of like off of a five, two in the eighth, you're like, that's all.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like a seven, ninety.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fast.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to get a truck built by midnight, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to send my truck over there and see.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every truck I see come out of there where they campaign it is it's deadly fast whether it's a stock computer truck or a full build field tech or whatever it's pretty damn fast so they they got that game lock on have that money yeah, yeah, it's getting more so then you should be good to know [SPEAKER_03]: This has been a great and fantastic conversation once again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully we spoke about a lot of things that people wanted to know this time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Last time it was more general stuff and obviously a little bit back around so on.
[SPEAKER_03]: We just speak about fuel too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I try to stay away from a lot of ethanol conversations because they can get misconstrued and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I try to be very specific about applications that I've seen where this is what it requires.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the limitations and I try to like [SPEAKER_00]: I don't say anything based on the theory, I'm based it on what I've seen, application, and how it works.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if I speak out of turn on that, [SPEAKER_00]: It's rare because it's usually something I've seen that I talk about that I can say definitely seen it many times verifiable, whether it's an injector thing, whether it's pressure thing, whether it's pressure drop, fuel needs, needs for boost levels, like, again, the twenty four Mustang and me is not great because you can only put predator fifty five's in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a safety factor that I'm not comfortable going past.
[SPEAKER_00]: if you only have fifty five pound injectors that's the only injector why because wipple has to make a emissions friendly tune and the only injector that is allowed to be tuned by them for carbo verification or whatever is the predator fifty five you can't get an ID one thousand a pass carb you can't get a detour ninety five to pass carb it has to be a predator fifty five [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why they're like, well, that's all you got because it's legal or carb EO and then jack a pressure and go out there and run an eight and hopefully it doesn't blow up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like that is crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just talking a little irresponsibly for the sake of going fast and it's just not something I subscribe to.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm glad I got my fuel clip out of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Last one because [SPEAKER_03]: At least we talked about something.
[SPEAKER_00]: You should have at least four or five clips on this guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, we got a lot of clips.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I appreciate your time in and obviously for making this happen as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank him.
[SPEAKER_00]: This gentleman has been very nice and generous and I wanted you to have a comfortable nice place to do your podcast in because my place is junk like I mean, I don't know how do you fit all this stuff in my place, but I wanted you to have nice backdrop and relaxing atmosphere to have some fun and talk car stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also, we just speak about some memberships, which is you, you inspired me to, to make that happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully, once I figure it out, I guess, I'll look, this is what you guys need to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy is doing something that a lot of people have tried to imitate a lot of people have tried to copy, but he sticks with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has done a [SPEAKER_00]: complete world tour of learning from the time he started versus now he knows a lot more stuff he's investing the time he's hustling he's moved to an area where it's popping and if you guys want to support him you should become a member of this channel and it could be something very small but it's at least something that he can count on so he can do more of it have more equipment count on count on a monthly nut to be able to get you more content better content and I think that's something that you should consider because [SPEAKER_00]: YouTube only pays so much and you don't know how the algorithm is one day could be this Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I appreciate that a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: You definitely inspired me that conversation we had about how I was setting up.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, damn, maybe I should.
[SPEAKER_03]: People have asked about it, like I said to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I feel bad, like I need to give something, you know, but like, I mean, some people, I guess, just want to look at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, people have literally come up to my me or my show, like, how can I support outside of YouTube so that they don't take thirty percent?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: So then there's other avenues that I looked at, I'm like, how about this?
[SPEAKER_00]: And two hundred people signed up like that, and I went, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's like a mortgage.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, wow, what do I provide?
[SPEAKER_00]: More time, more attention.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think if you were to explore that, I think you'd get a lot of support.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I appreciate that man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was working and I'm like, no way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think about it like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely get a Shelby truck then.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get the Shelby truck.
[SPEAKER_03]: How many members should I need to get a Shelby truck?
[SPEAKER_03]: Depending on the tier.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, a hundred.
[SPEAKER_00]: Easy.
[SPEAKER_00]: A hundred.
[SPEAKER_00]: No way.
[SPEAKER_00]: A hundred people.
[SPEAKER_03]: A hundred people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shelby truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: A Shelby truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: You buying the cash.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you doing the monthly nut?
[SPEAKER_00]: What are we doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, monkey.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let's say you put ten grand down, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And you need what, uh, seven hundred eight hundred bucks a month to afford a eighty thousand dollar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever the hell it is, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So eight hundred bucks a month if you have how many people need to sign up at ten or fifteen bucks a month to be eight hundred bucks a month?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's your math.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now what if double or triple do that?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they just want to support because they like you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I watch you shit all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's in the background.
[SPEAKER_00]: You, and you know, some people say ridiculous stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some people say fun stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some people say factual stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, it's entertainment.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that some people pay for terrible podcasts like on Spotify and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: They pay a monthly nut to listen to shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: like, you know, girls talking about dating and stuff and I'm just like, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is actually something I listen to and if I'm able to support you, imagine, imagine, we announced this, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're out there and you start a membership program and immediately you get support and it changes your life.
[SPEAKER_00]: It changes what you can do.
[SPEAKER_00]: It changes the type of venue you can be in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say you start a, you know, a permanent podcast place where people come to you, you don't go to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right right and you could fly them in you could flew them in and do whatever they want to do right and then you can and then you're like this is a legit pot.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a traveling podcast anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd love to just build like a warehouse where people come to me and I would just do any of you some given to me ideas man.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean like it's been done already, but I think the support [SPEAKER_00]: can be there for this type of platform, because nobody else is doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: The way you're doing it, people are trying.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen the copycat they come and go, but you've been hustling and grinding for a while, so I can't imagine people won't support you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will.
[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: See, I help.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though you guys think I'm an asshole and a douchebag, I try to help.
[SPEAKER_00]: People, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's exceed or do better, but I've done it.
[SPEAKER_00]: People support me and I have like tiny little channel.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think you've got to hit at that hundred thousand soon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, you said that last year, that was in still the same spot.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: You even do a car.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been like, you know, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I don't gain like, ten thousand a month.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like five hundred.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lie.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think right now it's just tough with the car stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you'll get a lot of support more than you think.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just give it a shot because if you're getting those type of views, people watch people support people like you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not abrasive.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm abrasive of people so support me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So imagine if you're not abrasive, but I'm brutally just brutally honest.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Clearly like.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, thank you so much, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: And for the people who are watching this for the first time and enough familiar with who you are, of course, after.
[SPEAKER_03]: You just let them know what it finds in the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can find me on YouTube.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Y-D-B-T, just type that in anywhere, and I'll show up.
[SPEAKER_00]: You also can go to Patreon, Patreon.com for slash Y-D-B-T.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of an Instagram.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want you hitting up on Instagram.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can get these in red, brown, green, long, cleave, short, cleave.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just wear it at your favorite track next time you go any event.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go wear these.
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