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Are Ferrari's drivers talking too much? | Las Vegas GP 2025 Preview
Are Ferrari's drivers talking too much? | Las Vegas GP 2025 Preview
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About this episode
The discussion centers on Ferrari's drivers, particularly Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc, and whether they are talking too much, potentially distracting from their performance. The hosts analyze Ferrari's current struggles, management pressures, and the importance of stability for the team. They also preview the 2025 Las Vegas Grand Prix, highlighting unpredictable cold weather conditions that could make driver skill crucial. The intense championship battle between Lando Norris, Oscar Piastri, and Max Verstappen is examined, along with McLaren's strategies and Mercedes' prospects. Additionally, the growth of the F1 Academy and its impact on motorsport diversity is celebrated.
Topics:
ferrari driver communication
lewis hamilton performance
las vegas grand prix preview
f1 championship battle
mclaren team dynamics
mercedes cold weather performance
f1 academy growth
constructors championship importance
driver skill in cold conditions
2026 season outlook
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Christian is in Las Vegas and Betty joins him from Manchester to preview all the talking points in the Formula 1 world going into this weekend. Ferrari will have eyes on them after recent comments from their chairman that Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc 'need to focus on driving and talk less'. Plus, things are heating up in the bottom half of the Constructors' Championship, and it is the F1 Academy 2025 season finale on the streets of Las Vegas!
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Hola a todos, bienvenido a la fiesta
y la curiosidad, el podcast de Formula 1
que habla de algunos de los grandes nombres en el sport.
Vámonos y vean.
Por cierto, si no nos crees, nosotros realmente lo hacemos.
Y también los precios y los precios de todos los grandes nombres.
Y eso es lo que estamos haciendo ahora.
Yo soy Betty Glover, conmigo es Cristian Hugel,
quien es en Las Vegas.
Cristian, es 1º en Manchester.
¿Es la coldera en Las Vegas?
No, así que como recordamos esto,
no, no, no, no, no recordamos esto a 10 a.m. mi tiempo.
Y por eso es la noche lenta,
6 p.m. tu tiempo, Betty, en el U.K.
Y algo que he spotado mucho
cuando he estado contando a las personas.
Formula 1 también, que estoy pasando aquí,
es que, incluso si tuvimos dos eventos,
algunas personas todavía no pasan la coldera.
Así que, como hablé a Betty,
el día de la noche,
es 12ºC y gloria el sol.
Pero la cosa es...
¿Las noches, entonces?
Sí, pero la temperatura dropa en la noche.
Así que, básicamente,
he llegado al plane,
llegué aquí,
llegué al hotel,
tenido comida en la cama,
eso es todo lo que he hecho,
he llegado y he hecho esto.
Pero cuando llegué al hotel el día de la noche,
en realidad, cuando llegué al plane,
se fue despejando y...
No.
...colda.
Y eso fue cuando llegué a la hora,
que se iba a qualificar.
Así que hablaremos de eso un poco,
pero es un terreno de terrestres,
que estoy llegando al plane,
esto es cuando las caras están en el chac,
y es, como dijo Betty,
Manchester en el Área de Winter de Estados Unidos,
y despejeando.
Así que podría ser interesante,
pero como hablamos,
no, es sonido.
Es un sonido glorioso,
como he dicho en la caña de mi hotel,
que si estás viendo en YouTube,
como dijo Betty antes de empezar a recordar,
verás mis curtins hermosas.
Sí,
se cazan con tu vestido.
Justo,
¿Has jugado soques a la coca?
¿O un gelo a la coca?
¿Has jugado los gui?
¿Qué es el crac?
La última año,
yo estaba muerto de la coca,
y me dijeron,
sí, pero quiero ser tan bien.
Y este año,
he ido,
olvídense de ser tan bien,
voy a grabar,
creo que te vas a ver
en tu segundo año de Vagas.
Así que tengo boas,
grandes boas soques,
creo que el key
para mantener una buena temperatura,
Betty, es instalar los pies.
He longuado.
Totalmente concreto,
pies y manos,
pies y manos,
pies y manos.
Así que tengo algunas
grandes boas,
algunas soques.
El tie-up
para la semana
va a ser un vestido tan duro
y luego tengo a Betty.
Sabes,
de nuevo,
para una buena instalaría,
la coca.
La coca.
¡Oh, sí!
Así que ha trabajado
un truco
en los episodios de Shakedown
en Silverstone.
Así que tengo el vestido de la coca,
y luego el vestido de Big Puffer.
En los episodios de Shakedown,
yo fui para Suede,
tú fui para la coca.
Suede no me quedó caliente.
Oh, la coca, sí.
La coca era genial.
Así que el vestido de la coca
con el vestido de Puffer
por encima de la coca.
Y he incluso
hecho una cura de Fast and Curious
de Wally Hacks.
Es la única Wally Hacks que he hecho.
Así que voy a hacer un met...
¡Hang on!
Merch.
Reping.
¡Gracias!
En el parque de la semana.
Sí.
He just ordered
algunas soques heitas,
como con un botón
y todo,
como con una soca
electrónica
y manos.
Porque estoy presentando
la Libertad de Pueblas
mañana
en Sanford Bridge
y se va a ser
como minus 5.
Creo que ambos
vamos a tener un frío.
Pero yo creo que las pierdas,
no lo sé,
van a ser los minuses.
Los minuses.
Bueno,
frío.
Frío.
No estoy en el frío,
como mis ades
lo hacen,
infortunadamente.
¡Lovla!
¡Muy bien!
Me voy a ser lento.
Mi mente no funciona.
Bueno,
vamos a dejar de hablar
sobre el frío
y lo que hemos comprado.
Porque en el episodio de hoy
vamos a discutir
quién es el mejor lugar
para performar
bien en el frío
las calles de la deserta de Nevada.
No yo, no Christian.
También vamos a dar
nuestros textos
y lo que está pasando
en Ferrari.
Y también,
vamos a hacer el escenario
para el final de la F1 Academy.
Pero primero,
también quiero apologizar
a todos nuestros
viewers internacionales,
por favor,
y los escuchadores.
Bueno,
lo voy a hacer.
Me voy a aportar.
Y yo hice un montón de mensajes.
¿Hablas?
Yo estoy muy sorprendido.
Bienvenido a mi mundo.
Pero no tengo el derecho
de estar en el frío
sobre el tiempo
diferente a Vegas,
porque he estado
arreglando este mes.
No quiero ir hasta el 4 de la noche.
No funciona para mí, chicos.
Estoy en el frío,
es una noche,
pero muchos de nuestros
escuchadores
tienen que hacer el tiempo
y no se atreven.
Entonces, no quieren escuchar a nosotros.
No, no.
¿Sabes qué?
Un juego de fair.
Sí, un juego de fair.
Pero es,
es aún no idea
que sea.
Antes, no.
No es ideal.
No, no lo vamos a hacer.
Si lo hicieras cada semana,
no te gustaría.
No te gustaría.
Pero,
ya sabes,
tenemos que hacer
lo que tenemos que hacer.
¿Cómo?
Te crees que
el podcast de D-Brief
podría ser absolutamente caos
porque estaré haciendo
más tarde a la noche.
Como,
muy tarde.
Tú estarás haciendo
el primero de la mañana.
Nadie ha tenido
la mejor competencia
a lo mejor de las veces.
No, no, no.
No puedo escuchar una sentencia ahora mismo.
No.
No solo de 5 a.m.
en la mañana.
Así que,
es el día de la noche para eso.
No vamos a seguir a tu compañía.
Bueno,
hemos vendido ese.
Pero va a ser bueno.
Y vamos a despertar.
Porque
Lando Norris
está en 390 puntos.
Oscar Piaz Street
24 puntos detrás de él
en 366 puntos.
Es básicamente lo que significa a todos
que Lando
puede afortunizar
segundo a Piaz Street
en las otras tres racistas
y la Catáspina también.
Y todavía ganó el título.
Max Verstappen
es de 341 puntos.
Es 49 puntos detrás de él.
Hemos todavía 83 puntos detrás de él.
Así que no vamos a ganar
eso, nada más.
Así que vamos a hablar
de todo eso.
Pero ¿Puedo empezar con Ferrari,
Cristian?
Porque esto ha sido
todo por mi social media.
Todo el mundo está hablando de eso.
La pregunta es,
¿están los carros de Ferrari
hablando demasiado?
Y ¿es distraccionante
de ellos de la ruta?
Sí.
Así que si estás...
Si te has perdido esto,
todo esto fue bastante
el día o dos
después de la última ruta.
Y el chairman de Ferrari,
John Elcan,
ha dicho que los carros
necesitan enfocarse
en carros y hablar menos.
Y fue crítico
sobre lo que los carros
han estado haciendo
en el carro
durante el curso de la sesión.
No vamos a leer los cuantos,
pero hay cosas como,
¿sí?
Bueno, los mecánicos.
O si,
tenemos un piso de pérdida,
tipo de cosas.
Así que,
fue una cosa extraña
para decir.
Betty,
me voy a responder
tu pregunta primero.
¿Están los carros hablando demasiado?
Ha habido tiempos de esta sesión
donde Luis ha salido con
algunas cosas muy ricas.
Me sentí.
Así que, para responder tu pregunta
directamente,
posiblemente,
a veces, sí.
Ha habido tiempos
donde han ido a la ruta.
Luis, en particular,
en...
Estoy hablando de una ruta
pre-summer, ¿verdad?
Donde él ha tenido esa ruta.
Bueno, él ha sortido de decir
en un par de ocasiones,
oh, bueno,
me deseo,
me deseo que ustedes conocen
lo que estaba pasando.
Y entonces,
cuando me dieron cuenta de lo que estaba pasando,
fue como, oh, no lo puedo decir,
no puedo decir.
Y he encontrado situaciones
como eso,
un poco extraño,
porque...
Es como,
dice lo que está pasando
detrás de las escenas,
porque te asustas
la teoría de la conspiración.
Si dices,
yo solo deseo que ustedes conocen
lo que estaba pasando
y cosas como eso.
Puedo ser un poco
desgraciado, Luis,
pero fue...
fue en esas líneas.
Pero,
escucha,
estas son...
Esto es un poco menos de Luis.
Hace solo una vez o dos
esta temporada,
donde pensé,
en realidad,
no habría dicho eso.
Es menor.
Y no ha pasado por un tiempo.
Hay ese punto,
antes de un par de escenas,
donde Luis se sentía bastante...
realmente,
realmente,
realmente desgraciado,
tanto en él mismo,
y probablemente más de la equipo.
Así que no digo que es
una gran cosa aquí, Betty.
Pero a mí,
regardless de eso,
yo respondo a tu pregunta aquí.
¿Han hablado demasiado?
En una ocasión,
sí,
para ser balanceado,
pero yo creo que eso es
una mala cosa para John
para venir y decirlo.
También,
espero que haya sido un poco desgraciado,
o que suena
menos en la príncipe,
que lo ha mentido
cuando él estaba hablando,
si eso hace sentido.
Porque también creo que es
una cosa bastante preocupante,
para decirlo.
Sí,
lo he dicho,
y también creo que él es
un poco...
¿Por qué no escuchas a ti, John,
¿por qué no escuchas a los colegios
en vez de hablar a los medios?
Yo creo que...
¿Por qué no escuchas a los colegios?
¿Por qué publicas así?
No entiendo.
100,000%
regardless de si Luis o Charles
están en ocasión,
más de un tiempo,
24 años de la carrera,
cuando ellos se entrevisten
varias veces a la semana,
regardless de si han tomado
un paso demasiado
en una de esas ocasiones,
como lo dijo Luis,
lo he dicho dos veces en mi visión,
bien.
En el medio,
no es lo right thing to do.
Y también,
creo que
tienes que aceptar eso
si estás escribiendo a Luis Hamilton,
especialmente en este momento,
en su carrera.
Luis siempre ha sido un colegio
que ha sido vocal.
No ha podido seguir
adelante con una opinión.
Lo gustamos por eso.
Es quién Luis es.
Él se despliega de la frontera.
¿Te recuerdas en nuestros
primeros episodios
de The Fast and the Curious?
Estar a ver a Mercedes,
espérate que si estás escribiendo a Luis Hamilton,
especialmente en este momento de su carrera,
especialmente cuando él se ha convertido
en un equipo, como Ferrari,
que ha desaparecido
por años.
Y decirlo, es preocupante,
porque aquí están,
diciendo,
Ferrari necesita
seguir con la estructura de manejo.
Hemos dicho muchas veces por la temporada.
Ha sido mucho shopping y cambiando.
Necesitamos,
seguir con algo si van a ganar.
No sugería un campo feliz.
Y para mí,
no sugería a alguien
dirigido por arriba.
¿Quién sabe lo que está haciendo?
No, no, no.
Si fuese a Ferrari,
vayan y critican
Charles Leclerc
para todo lo que ha hecho para ese equipo,
el servidor que él es
y Luis Hamilton,
según el modo en el que ha sido.
No se puede criticar
en un millón de años,
¿verdad?
Yo just find it a bizarre thing to do.
I wonder whether he meant it more in the way of
some Ferrari is
one of, if not the biggest team in Formula One.
Don't come at me,
but it is massive.
And when you drive for Ferrari,
you have got so much pressure on your shoulders,
so much outside pressure.
It's an iconic team.
You've got the whole of Italy
wanting you to win.
And I wonder whether he just more sort of meant
stop talking to the media
and almost like increasing that pressure on yourself
and just try and just head down and concentrate.
I wonder whether he meant it more in that sort of way.
And as I say, if I'm being balanced here,
there's been times where I thought
Luis has overstepped the mark this season.
So to that point, Betty,
if it had said it like you've just brilliantly articulated it.
Well, I don't know if my grandma was very good, but.
No, I think he articulated it marvelously.
I think I think the point I'm getting
as I'm really trying to be balanced here.
The point I'm guessing is there probably has been points
where they have taken it too far,
particularly on the Lewis side,
but you're going to expect that.
And regardless of that,
coming into the press to do it
is is not the right thing to do.
I'll be interested to see if he's here this weekend.
I'm talking to you from the morning of media day.
So it'll be interesting to see if
if John is in the paddock this weekend.
If he is, it'll be interesting to see
because he'd get asked about it.
He'd get TV cameras thrust in his face.
No, you know, if you were a print journalist,
you would go and talk to him about it.
You just would be interested to see
whether he takes the opportunity to roll back
and say something that didn't quite come across
how I intended it.
I've spoken to the drivers
because he needs to have sympathy for the fact
that his drivers are interviewed
three, four times over the course
of a race weekend in the pen,
all the extra interviews they do,
the frustration of a 24 race season,
given that the car isn't where it needs to be.
It's so easy to turn around and say,
oh, well, you know, you need to be better than that, guys.
It's really tricky to control yourself
for a whole season when you've been having a micro
and pushed in your face all season
and you're having a bad year.
I would have expected a bit more of an understanding
from my boss in that situation.
So I think it's not ideal
and it'll be really interesting to see
what follows on from it.
Also on that, your expecting drivers,
the sport is expecting drivers to speak
straight after coming out of the car.
So we know that, you know,
they're dehydrated, they're knackered,
their mind is probably frazzled,
they've got adrenaline running through their veins.
Think they're gonna say things, they just are,
they're gonna be asked questions
and they're gonna, well, exactly.
Talking about Lewis Hamilton,
he's never completed a season
without making it onto a podium before in his career.
Doesn't look like that's gonna carry on, does it?
Do you think, do you think Lewis Hamilton
is gonna get a Ferrari podium at any point
with the last remaining races?
If you pushed me for that answer straight, no I don't.
But I think go back a couple of grand prix,
we were saying that things have improved.
He's then had a bad one last time out.
So I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility
because there have been times where he's looked
way closer to Charlotte Clair and qualifying.
Generally speaking, post summer break,
his averages to La Clair and qualifying
have come right back down
and bar a couple of outliers, it's not been too bad.
So I think stranger things have happened
but it seems unlikely.
It's such a shame, isn't it, though, Christian?
Because it does feel like he's very close.
Every driver seems to struggle,
obviously, when they get in a new car, don't they?
And it's taken Lewis quite a long time this season
but the last few races,
it feels like things are starting to click, doesn't it?
Yeah, obviously, Brazil was a bit of a shocker.
I mean, it was for both the Ferrari
but then there was a run fourth in the USA
where he wasn't far off.
Mexico wasn't great either, as I've said,
he's had a couple of Duff ones,
but then prior to that, I mean, granted,
you look at the finishing positions
with the likes of eighth in Baku and eighth in Singapore,
but that doesn't tell the full story.
There have been times in that
where the pace has been much closer.
So it isn't beyond the realms of possibility.
Listen, Lewis Hamilton hasn't been able to get to grips
with this generation of car.
We've spoken before on the podcast.
Alex Brundle, when we had him on for a race debrief,
but really well on it a while ago now,
that the advantage of late breakers in this rule set,
the drivers like Daniel Lucardo and Lewis Hamilton,
who've really got advantages
from being able to be last of the late breakers
and get the car slow down and still in control
and still manage to get your foot on the accelerator
at the right time to maximize your exit of the next corner
and maximize the next part of the track.
It's tricky when you build all of that sequence
on last of the late breakers,
it doesn't feel like your,
the Cardo's and your Hamilton's
have quite been able to get to grips with that
with this rule set.
So you've got to take,
you've got to bear in mind
that it's a rule set Lewis Hamilton
doesn't particularly get on with a car
that by all both drivers account,
you know, accounts this season is tricky.
It's been the perfect storm to me.
And again, I've said this before as well.
Next season is where we're gonna really see,
okay, where is Lewis Hamilton?
A whole new car, a whole new rule set.
Leclerc's advantage of knowing the car
for so long is reset.
And then we'll see where he is.
I actually think there is reason to be cheerful
for Lewis Hamilton.
He has really,
those qualifying performances in particular,
I don't think it's quite as bad
as some of those race results say,
but it matters for the likes of us,
Betty, you know, Hamilton's not been on the podium,
et cetera, et cetera.
I don't think it matters in general.
I don't think it's a massive thing
because next year is key.
I don't think it's massive
that we could say
all Lewis hasn't been on the podium.
There's been many factors
behind that that you can unpack.
So there's reasons possibly to be optimistic
for Lewis Hamilton.
Do you think there's reasons
to be optimistic for Fred Vassue?
Is he in trouble?
Because obviously Ferrari haven't,
by their high standards,
haven't had, you know,
the best season.
Things, things are a little bit tricky.
I guess there's a breakdown
in communication possibly
as well in the media.
Well, again, Betty,
it all goes back to next season, really.
Securing second in the constructors
would be important
in the sense that them coming third
would be a disaster.
Considering Mercedes
have basically in many ways
written off the constructors this year
in order to bring through a young driver.
Mercedes know that if they had
stuck Carlos Sanz in the car,
they'd probably have more points
than if they had Kimi Antonelli.
But they believe this is a long term thing
worthwhile.
No, I, I agree with them, by the way.
I think Kimi's had a great back end of the season.
No worries with Kimi.
But when they've had
that rookie driver in the seat,
if Ferrari still can't take
second in the constructors championship, it's bad.
So second in the constructors championship
I think it's fairly important for morale.
But Fred Vassar will be made
or broken next season
by the rule changes.
They need to come in and be competitive.
They just need to.
I think teams that struggle next season
will find management and drivers
really under pressure quite quickly
because we you know how long
we've been talking about 2026.
You know how long the sports
been talking about 2026 for.
Yeah, Ferrari are exactly the same.
So to answer your question, Betty,
we won't know until Australia next season.
But I talk about Australia next season,
round one, right?
If Ferrari are bad in Australia,
I guarantee in our post race debrief
we'll be talking about.
Is this bad for Fred Vassar?
It'll come that quickly.
If Ferrari struggle at the start of next season,
they will come for Vassar straight away.
So in answer to your question, Betty,
to be confirmed, they need to limp through
to the end of this season
put some of the behind the scenes
chat to one side and go
and regroup next year
when it will all be really significant next season.
They've got two incredible drivers,
some two really, really good drivers in their team.
You can't see them
struggling again next season.
Surely, surely.
The drivers don't worry me.
I think if you give
for Lewis Hamilton and Charlotte
Claire a good car, they'll be fine.
It's history shows us
they've not won a championship,
a driver's championship
since Kenny Reichenan in the 2000s.
It's not the drivers that the issue here is the car.
The big question marks
whether Ferrari can give those drivers the right car.
OK, let's take a very quick break
and when we're back, we'll preview Vegas.
Christian, the end of the season
is getting so incredibly close.
The championship battle has been insane.
We are all going to miss it so much
when that final race of the season comes around, aren't we?
I mean, I'm usually ready for a break
at the end of the F1 season,
but you just kind of don't want this one to end, do you?
Like, with so little in it,
with Landau and Asuka going between them.
But like the winter break is getting shorter and shorter.
So there's a saying we don't want this season to end,
but 2026 will literally be here before we know it.
I know, I think you need a holiday, to be honest.
I think we all need a holiday,
but our sports fans were so fickle, aren't we?
Because instantly there is going to be a whole load
of new storylines that we are just going to get carried away
with, a whole load of new drivers that we are going to get behind
and say that they're going to win the championship.
And there's also going to be brand new cars
for everyone to get used to as well in 2026
and a whole new flipping team joining the grid as well.
There is so much drama.
I just love it, I love it.
So much drama,
but that means now is actually a good time
to start plotting out which races
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Okay, so Max is 49 points behind Lando Norris
We know Max loves Vegas.
Is this his best chance, Christian,
to take some points away from McLaren?
I don't think so because it's been so up and down this season.
I don't think you could class this particular race
as more or less of a chance than Katara Abu Dhabi.
You could certainly come round and say,
McLaren have struggled in the cold weather here recently.
So on that basis, yes.
But actually, I think that's just guesswork.
I actually think that's just guesswork.
I actually think if he's gonna take points out of McLaren,
it could happen anywhere because this is Max, right?
We can throw logic out the window.
He could just find the right setup and blitz them anyway.
So I actually don't, there'll be people who say yes
to that question better.
I just don't think it matters that much.
I think this Max and Red Bull have been so up
and down this season.
Wouldn't surprise me for any of the remaining three races.
Max is just the quickest car.
I just think that's where we are.
They could turn up at any point and win the race
when we don't expect them to look at Japan.
That's a really great example.
No one expects them to win there.
But, well, I think your question is pertinent,
Betty Winglover, is he sort of got to do it here,
really, because time's running out.
I think, yeah, so much of what we've said,
is Max still in it, is Max still in it?
Well, it's now or never time
because we're running out of Grand Prix.
I think we're in the position where if Lando
and Oscar finish ahead of Max at the end of this one,
it's all but done and it's looking unlikely already.
So he's got to not only go and win the race,
which, as I've just said, is more than feasible.
He could do that at any point.
But also he's got to hope something bad happens to Lando
and Oscar in terms of at eighth, the ninth, the spin,
what have you, which as we'll get onto in a bit,
if it's going to happen anywhere, could happen here,
it could, but it could happen anywhere.
This is the thing.
No one would have expected
some of the performances we've seen.
No one would have expected the sprint race problems
from McLaren.
So yeah, it's just, it's just anyone's guess.
On McLaren, we saw Oscar made a few improvements last time out,
but obviously he had penalties and errors,
they were his massive issue.
Do you reckon if he can continue those improvements
and just stay clean, keep his head,
keep his fighting spirit,
he can get himself back into this?
Yes, I do.
It is far from beyond the rounds of possibility
that Oscar Piazza wins this championship.
There is enough of a driver in there
to turn up this weekend,
do a better job than Lando and win the race.
There is enough of a driver in there for Oscar
to see Vegas as another switch in form
where Oscar turned it back round
and did well in the remaining three races.
I don't think it will happen.
Lando was very good in Abu Dhabi last year, for example.
So it's starting to feel like
more Lando territory to the end of the season.
And I think Lando is in such a good place
that I don't think he'll let that happen.
But to your question, Betty, answering your question,
yes, that is possible.
I don't see Oscar as a different driver
to the one that I said will win championships
at the start of the season.
He's made mistakes.
He's in bad form.
There's starting to definitely be more credence to the theory
that upgrades McLaren have made
don't suit him as well as Lando.
Now, it's a massively significant thing to
McLaren as sabotaging Oscar
and making the car in favour of Lando.
That's a different thing to...
Actually, things we've bolted on the car
don't suit me quite as well as they suit my teammates
because that's just the run of the mill.
That's the look of the draw.
That's how upgrades work.
So I don't think...
You'd be like, oh, guys, just leave it alone.
Well, the thing is, they were being beaten by Red Bull
so they couldn't just leave it alone.
I don't...
The feeling here, the talk here, the chat here
is that Lando is now the overwhelming favourite
for this title, that it's his to lose,
that he's the man in form,
that he's the one that looks like
he's going to quite comfortably turn up
and maybe get one more win in a couple of seconds
and take home the title.
But, as I say, Oscar Piastri is a bloody talented
Formula One driver who I'm convinced his time will come.
Don't rule that out.
Don't rule out chaos
if Lando being spun round or an icy bit of track.
There's so many variables that could still go into it
and that is why it is still open.
Lando is the favourite.
Lando is the one you'd want to be
going into these final few races,
but don't rule anything out yet.
I am intrigued to see how McLaren
are going to approach this race, though.
Like, do they just sort of stay out of trouble?
Do they try and play it safe and just stay clean?
And how... What do they do?
I'm asking that question, but in my head I'm thinking,
well, you know what they're going to do.
There's two incredible drivers
who are professional sportsmen.
They are going to go out there and try and win,
no matter what happens. Oscar has to.
And I think it'll be intriguing
to see how they both approach it.
I don't think you can change anything,
particularly from the Lando side of the garage.
Well, yeah, we know that he only needs to come second fine,
but I don't think you can change anything from your approach.
I think McLaren are just going to do
what they've done all season
and let them be, let them race
until they've realised that, you know,
something might have favoured one or the other,
then they'll do what they've always done.
McLaren won't change their approach.
Lando certainly won't change his approach,
because why would you?
Because he's been going brilliantly these last few races.
He's the man in form.
And you don't do the soccer,
football, cliché, playing for the draw.
When you're ahead, you just carry on
and you aim to win and you race to win.
You never change that.
And if you're Oscar, exactly as you pointed out, Betty,
you know, all right,
there was the moment in Brazil
where he went off, we know that.
But that aside, exactly as you said, Betty, you're right.
Case-wise, it was a step up from where it had been.
He wasn't quite as lagging behind Lando
across the whole weekend as he had been before.
So if you're Oscar,
you've got to just trust yourself
and keep looking where he'll come out of this slump.
I firmly believe that.
Whether that's next season, as I said,
whether it's this weekend or next weekend
because he'll come out of this slump
in the meantime, he just needs to do what he can.
He does indeed.
We know that Mercedes thrive in the cold.
They do well in the cold.
We know George Russell likes Vegas.
We know Verstappen likes Vegas.
Do you think George is the favourite coming into this?
I don't know, Betty.
It's obviously my job to analyse the sport on this podcast,
but I think it's really important to say
when we don't know things.
I don't think it's as simple as just to say,
Mercedes ran in the cold well last year,
so they will this year.
To go back off what I said at the top of the show,
Vegas is such an outlier
because even when we go to tracks where it is cooler
and we're outside wearing jackets in Japan
or at Silverstone or in Spa,
you're still there in the summer,
so it's still not cold, cold.
As I said, counteract to what I said at the top of the show,
I'm getting off the plane.
It's like icy cold wind, rain blowing it down,
and the weather is changeable this weekend,
so rain could well play a factor.
It's an outlier.
These cars are simply not used to racing in winter mode.
It's like when you,
I don't know if you ever played the old rally driving games
as a kid, I'm guessing you didn't, Betty,
but like I did.
No, Simpsons hit and run, I played that.
Yeah, but okay, fine.
You change your winter mode on
and all of a sudden you're driving around in snow
and it's icy.
That's what the Vegas Grand Prix is,
but I think Mercedes have actually,
I've heard people chasing about them a lot
in the run up to Vegas
and you start to look ahead and you start to go,
okay, where's gonna be a red bull track?
Where's gonna be a Mercedes track?
And Mercedes have been really quick to say,
look, Vegas is an outlier
just because our car worked last year in the cold.
It's not like it's that's a known characteristic
that we will definitely,
history shows it's ran well in the cold,
but they're not as confident as to turn around and go,
yes, it's cold weather.
Therefore, we definitely think we'll be able
to win this Grand Prix
because it's just not that easy.
It's tricky.
It also might be a step colder than it was last year.
Vegas is such an outlier of conditions
that I don't think anyone is coming into this weekend
knowing who's going to be quickest
in a season that it's been very difficult
to come in knowing who's going to be the quickest anyway.
So yes, I still think if you were gonna push before
we know I probably would say, George,
based on what we've known,
but don't expect it to be a slam dunk.
It's cold, Mercedes will be fast.
It might well turn out that way,
but last year, right?
They did well all weekends.
I was on American Radio previewing the race
chatting to those guys.
I remember the expert they had on said,
but I don't think they'll be able to keep that pace up
in the race.
They've been good all weekend.
I don't think they'll be able to keep that pace up in the race.
He said that because Mercedes had been saying that.
Mercedes had sort of been quietly going,
I don't think we'll last.
It's lovely to have a poll.
And then they won.
And afterwards, you sort of had them going,
oh, wow, that was good, wasn't it?
We're not quite sure why we've been so great.
And Mercedes have had similar moments this year.
So yeah.
They have.
When George Russell was like, oh, I don't know why.
Yeah.
Why that car was good.
I don't know why.
It's not a slam dunk that Mercedes will just dominate this weekend
because it's cold, because they've historically done it in cold.
Vegas is too different to be sure.
And plus, Betty, sorry.
And I'm on a bit of a ramble here.
You are.
It's OK.
Thanks, mate.
I also just think this is where the drivers come in a lot.
Something that's probably not talked about enough
is how difficult it is to get the cars to grip when grip is low.
You need a certain amount of bravery to generate heat in your tires,
to generate heat in the car, in the brakes,
to make sure you've got grip when temperatures are low,
when there's rain.
So if you're too cautious, you will end up spinning.
If you are not cautious, if you are overzealous,
you'll snap the brakes, you'll snap the rear away
and you'll end up in the wall in a weekend
where it's possibly colder than we've seen before in Vegas,
where we might well have rain in play.
We are in territory where the drivers
could really, really make a difference here this weekend.
That would be my sort of noted preview.
It's so hard to drive these cars in cold conditions.
They're just not used to it.
So mistakes could be a big factor this weekend.
Individual errors and individual driver performance
where you've got differences between teammates.
Because I think this is a weekend
where the driver could really make a difference
because they're going to earn their money this weekend.
It's going to be really, it's a tricky ask,
driving these cars round this circuit in these temperatures.
So what I'm hearing is that Max Verstappen is going to win.
That's what I'm hearing from what you're saying.
I mean, if you, that's a very logical place
to have gone with that analysis, Betty,
that if you're saying the driver's going to make a difference,
you go, well, Max, yeah, I, I hear you, I hear you.
Yeah, you could well be right pal.
He's not bad, he's not bad as old Max Verstappen.
No, he's historically gone well round here.
Even though he didn't win last year,
he's historically gone well.
Obviously clinched the championship here last year as well.
Was that last year?
God, I can't remember now.
And remember him singing Vegas down the radio
when he'd been previously slating the circuit.
So yeah, he's one that he's picked up the championship here.
So yeah, it is Max Territory.
No, all that add either.
And also what I'm hearing from what you're saying
is that it's going to be a very exciting race
because basically we can't really predict it.
We don't.
It's not going to be just an easy thing to predict.
No, anything.
And that's my, that's my type of race.
Yeah, I don't like coming on and going.
It's going to be a belter
because even racers that sometimes you think
are going to be a belter
then turn out to sometimes be a bit of a damp script,
such as sport or sports.
Get this, but logically Betty, it should be a belter.
It's going to be a belter.
It's going to be amazing.
Yeah, because because as you say, yeah, tricky conditions.
Driver's making the difference.
Cold weather, cars are used to running
in these temperatures, a street circuit.
This track, you either love or you hate Vegas.
I think it's lovely that Formula One tries new things.
I'm all for the Vegas Grand Prix.
But whether you like the event or not,
the tracks produce good racing.
You can overtake round here.
So it's a track that produces good racing
and predictable conditions.
Driver's making a difference.
You know me, I don't want to make a bold prediction,
but I think it will.
I'd be very surprised if it wasn't
the greatest Formula One Grand Prix
in all of its 75 years.
It will be the best one.
I think this will be the best one.
I think that's right.
It's going to be the best one ever.
Ever.
Everyone in the UK is going to wake up
before 4 a.m. with no regrets whatsoever.
They're going to be buzzing.
Yeah, imagine if it's terrible.
It probably is.
It's going to be terrible.
It's going to be terrible.
Max is just going to win it.
Fine, done.
You know, you said dump squib earlier.
Yeah, well, once you go over this, yeah.
I used to think until very, very recently.
I know what you're going to say.
I am 30 years old.
I thought it was dump squib.
And I still can't believe it is dump squib.
Squib, what's a squib?
I do like these dump squib.
Fast, curious, part, actually.
It's not really Formula One related,
but Sonic will do what we like.
Fast, curious, part on the socials.
What where have you thought that you are saying
and that's not saying before?
Betty's dump squib is one.
I'd like to read some more of those out of the debrief.
What is a squib?
I don't know.
What is a dump?
What is a squib?
Well, I'm going to Google it.
I'm going to Google it.
Sorry, guys.
While you're Googling that,
just another thing to mention, Betty,
as well while you're Googling squib.
The Constructors' Championship
is something we should also really keep an eye on.
Racing Bulls and Sixth on 82.
Aston Martin Seventh and 72.
Hass Eighth on 70.
I've come right back into it recently,
not least because of Oli Behrman and Salva on 62.
The Constructors' Championship is fascinating
and we should really keep an eye on that.
That's when you'll win the last three races.
We'll really start to think about that.
That's something we should really focus in on this weekend.
It'll be a real in-focus point
the Constructors' Championship battle this weekend.
Yeah, we definitely will.
Just if anyone cares,
squib originates from fireworks.
So, squib is a small firework
that is supposed to ignite with a loud hiss and bang.
If it's damp, then it doesn't work.
I don't know that.
Genuinely didn't know that.
Yeah, there we go.
It's informative, this podcast, isn't it?
I'm surprised it's not on the BBC
because we do both inform and entertain, don't we?
It's quite Lord...
It's quite Lord Rethian, this podcast.
I've often thought it.
Oh, God!
Right, I think we need a break
just to recalibrate the brain cells
and then we'll come back and actually talk about Form 1.
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Hello. Welcome back to Fast and the Curious.
We are gonna talk about F1 now on F1 only.
We're not gonna go off track.
We're gonna have no damp squibs.
You mentioned the constructors earlier.
¿Qué haces, Manny?
Me he estado en la P1,
me he estado en la P1,
me he estado en la P1.
Me he estado en la P1, me he estado en la P1.
Me he estado en la P1, me he estado en la P1.
Los constructores están en la P1.
Es interesante que habláis de cómo es muy interesante en el fondo.
Es muy intensa.
¿Por qué es que esto importa mucho para la equipo?
Explica a nosotros por qué es tan importante.
Siempre es importante para las personas más nuevas a la fórmula 1
que el campeonato de los colegios es potencialmente más sexier.
Es el que le da la atención.
Y eso no es solo porque Charlotte Clairs,
es generalmente considerado el campeonato sexier.
Pero los constructoros son los que matan a los colegios,
los colegios, porque, simple y sencillamente,
tienes millones más de dólares en el dinero de los precios,
el más más alto te finishing el campeonato de los constructoros.
La fórmula 1 no publica exactamente lo que es,
así que no tenemos exactos figuras,
pero estás hablando de millones y millones aquí
que una fórmula 7 a 8
que realmente hace diferencia en términos de dinero de precios.
Y, sí, estamos operando bajo un cost cap
y, sí, a más de los colegios llegan a ese cost cap,
pero no underestimate cuánto importante el dinero de precios
es para estos colegios,
en particular, ir a una nueva fórmula.
Y es especialmente importante para los colegios más pequeños
que no deberían ser tomados para la fórmula.
Entonces, tus colegios transicionando a Audi,
your Williams, your Haas,
teams that have historically not had the budget
of your Mercedes Red Bulls and Ferraris,
it matters massively to them.
Of course, we mentioned at the top of the show
with Ferrari wanting to get second,
that matters more for pride, to be honest.
Let's be honest, Mercedes coming second to Ferrari coming second,
they've got the money, it's not as important to them,
I'll be honest, but it's much, much more important
to those teams at the bottom, not just for pride,
but the prize money makes a significant factor.
On the flip side to that, there is the sliding scale
of aerodynamic development.
So the team that finishes...
I want to practice your attention.
Oh yes, it's a speaker of sex,
ETH, sliding scale of aerodynamic development.
The sliding scale of aerodynamic development.
Alpine that finish 10th, we're imagining,
will finish 10th in the constructor championship.
They will get the most amount of time to spend developing
their car in the wind tunnel next year.
ETH will get the second most.
The consolation to not coming as high up
in the constructor's championship is you do get
more time in the wind tunnel.
So that's why it matters, it's very important,
particularly for that middle block of teams as well.
I mean, you just look at people in there like Aston Martin.
Aston Martin will not want to be being beaten
by Red Bull's B team, for example.
Again, they're focusing all on 2026
and the Adrian New Year is starting proper,
but they're just not going to want to be there.
And credit to Ollie Bearman because he's dragged
so yeah, exciting stuff.
Also buzzing for Williams.
They're doing well, they're up there.
I mean, I mean, we can't say enough
how much for a good season they've had.
Absolutely brilliant, you've expected them
to be in that hunt for 7th, 8th night,
but they were right up there
and barring miracles of a, you know,
a team like RB getting a 1-2 or something,
they'll get 5th.
So we should be phenomenal for them
considering that they have been focusing on 2026
since about 1986.
So yeah, I...
Yes, all James Charles talks about.
All James Charles talks about.
Morning James, what's your IP breakfast?
I think well 2026 breakfast is going to be important for us.
So yeah, yes.
I can't talk about that because 2026!
Let's just quickly talk about F1 Academy
before we wrap up because the championship
is going to be decided in Vegas.
This is all very exciting.
It's been a brilliant season, hasn't it?
Dorian Pan is 9 points ahead.
She's had a great season, hasn't she, Christian?
She has, I would say
the pressure is on her.
9 points is a decent enough buffer
to go into a final race.
And she's been right up there.
So it would be a surprise if Maya does it.
The one thing I'd say is if you draw
back to when we had
the likes of Chloe Grant,
who was in F1 Academy in the first season,
she was previewing the second season
and she was saying
that Dorian
is sort of the more experienced
racing driver.
A lot of people were expecting her to win the title
last year
and Abby Polling won the title
and there was a moment I've spoken about
on the podcast before in Miami last year
where it was all of a sudden like,
ah, Abby is a realistic title contender here
and went on to win the championship.
So I think Dorian's been
sort of expected
to win the title.
So I think
there's a bit of pressure on her there.
I don't think she'll put that pressure on herself
and feel that pressure. I've interviewed her a couple of times.
I think she's really nice. She's really funny.
She doesn't strike me as the type to go into a race
nervy or stressed about the situation.
So I would say
she's the favourite. As you say, Betty,
she's had a really, really good year.
And I think the series has had a good year
as a whole. If you've not
seen our interview
with Susie Wolf yet, go and watch it
on the YouTube channel. Listen back on the podcast
feed. It's brilliant where we talk about
the growth of the series
and what I have loved
going into this Vegas weekend
is seeing
so much on my socials
the hello kitty tie up
that Susie spoke about.
I mean, if you're new to this podcast,
most people won't be if you've got to this point
at the pod. Most people will be loyal listeners.
But we don't take the sport too seriously.
And therefore we appreciate
when other people don't take the sport too seriously.
And what's really
lovely
is seeing
sort of bright pink hello kitty
merch everywhere.
Not just sort of being proud of being
if you are a girly girl, a girly girl
as sort of Susie spoke about
on the podcast so well that you don't have to be a tomboy
to be in sport. You can be anything you like.
There's that side of it. But there's also
for me, they're just having fun
and having a big fun
brand partnership like that.
This sport is so much better
for having F1 Academy
in it and around it.
And in the week there was the confirmation
that all the teams have signed up
to continue, all the Formula 1 teams
have continued to sign up
to back F1 Academy
and use their brands in the series.
Which is great news.
The sport is doing
such great things
in showcasing to
young girls that look
motorsport is out there and it's out there for me.
And it's just lovely
seeing it continue to grow
in it's popularity and it's reach.
And having those moments
like the Hello Kitty stuff where everyone's talking about it
where it's like oh that's cool, that's fun.
So thank God for F1 Academy
we need it in this sport, it's great.
So it's been great to see the sport take another
growth forward this year, great to see the series
take another step forward. And whoever wins
it's been a good year.
It's been some phenomenal racing,
it's been some absolutely fantastic action
so it's absolutely brilliant.
You talk about her mindset going into it
I just read a quote from her
where she said well we're leading
so we're the best right, so we just keep going.
We just keep doing what we're doing.
You know when, like
and not that that wouldn't be a quote from her
but you're like yes that is the most
Dorian Pan thing to say
she's so sort of matua fact
and quite chill.
That is a logical
yeah it's like we're winning
so happy days, that is exactly what I was getting at
when I said she doesn't seem
the type to put pressure on herself
and I hadn't heard that quote so I suspect she'd be fine
but yeah it's been a really good season.
Yeah it's been a really good season
they've also had eight different winners across 12 races
before this so I mean
it will be interesting to see what happens
loads of points up for grabs over this weekend
in the F1 Academy
Anything else you want to talk about Christian?
No other than
a now lesser spotter than the podcast
Tyrrell's Tip bit
where producer Will Tyrrell
gives us some information
that we haven't heard before Betty
and I didn't know this, that Mercedes have come out with
a George Russell 150th
Grand Prix Celebration T-Shirts
to congratulate him
and Lando
on this milestone
in fact producer Will has just sent me this
oh it's fun
it's called T-Shirt
Oh it's him making the number Christian
Yeah I know it's him
I can see that
I'm more commenting on the T-Shirt love
I think the T-Shirts go
On the T-Shirt
the 63 is made out of his pose
Oh I see
I thought you were saying that George is wearing the T-Shirt
I know it's him
I can see that
It's him wearing it
I know it's him are you alright
I'm with you
That's fun
It looks like this
I mean it isn't
Yeah it's a nice T-Shirt
I don't know
I sort of think though
Yeah it's nice that we've got a Russell
Celebratory T-Shirt
I sort of think a Celebratory T-Shirt
for George Russell's 150th
isn't appropriate
I sort of feel like with George
a sort of character and personality
which we love by the way
this is all said with so much love
or something
or a plaque
a carriage clock
No no no, no it should be a pen
A pen, yeah
a celebratory
commemoratory
that's not a word, commemoration, pen
clipboard
community notice board
memory George Russell
community notice board
Bring it back George Russell's community notice board
That's where we just go through
bits of F1 news in detail
It hasn't been any F1 news this season
It's just been all McLaren
It's better than your cubbyhole
I've never liked the name cubbyhole
I've always wondered what cubbyhole
Anyway, go on Betty
What's your top three
Okay, if you insist
I'm going to go with
Max Verstappen
P1
I'm going to go George Russell P2
and I'm going to go
Clarence though
I'm going to go
I'm going to go Lando P3
and um
No
Okay, shove George off
George goes P3
Lando P2
That was the most shambolic prediction
you've offered all season
I'm still not fully sure what you've said
No, neither am I
I just
I can't even remember who I said was going to be P1 now
Max
Max will be P1, let's just leave it there
I'm unsure about the others
I hope people come to this podcast
for our skills and analysis
I'm going to go with
Russell P1 Verstappen P2
Hamilton P3
What about McLaren
I don't think they'll be on the podium
Yes, they will
Well, I think it'll be cold and I think the car won't suit it
and that's why
Oh, they were like sixth and seventh last year
Interesting
Bob will find out
We're going to do a debrief
So make sure you listen to our debrief
It might be less coherent than this
This hasn't been our strongest episode
So give it a solid
Six out of ten
End of the season
We can't be expected
No, no, we're crawling to the end
We're limping over the finish line
We really are absolutely limping over the finish line
Apologies for this sort of episode
But you know, we've had a go, haven't we?
Right, Betty, I'm going to get off
I'm going to go to the gym, then I'm going to go to the circuit
Oh, we'll have a fantastic time, Christian
Thanks, babes. Look forward to speaking to you
on the
early hours of Sunday morning for me
The not so early hours of Sunday morning for you
And yes
Please follow us on all the socials
We will be back
Straight after the Las Vegas Grand Prix
For me in Las Vegas
And from Betty in Manchester in the United Kingdom
Goodbye
Goodbye
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