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Hola a todos, bienvenido a la fiesta

y la curiosidad, el podcast de Formula 1

que habla de algunos de los grandes nombres en el sport.

Vámonos y vean.

Por cierto, si no nos crees, nosotros realmente lo hacemos.

Y también los precios y los precios de todos los grandes nombres.

Y eso es lo que estamos haciendo ahora.

Yo soy Betty Glover, conmigo es Cristian Hugel,

quien es en Las Vegas.

Cristian, es 1º en Manchester.

¿Es la coldera en Las Vegas?

No, así que como recordamos esto,

no, no, no, no, no recordamos esto a 10 a.m. mi tiempo.

Y por eso es la noche lenta,

6 p.m. tu tiempo, Betty, en el U.K.

Y algo que he spotado mucho

cuando he estado contando a las personas.

Formula 1 también, que estoy pasando aquí,

es que, incluso si tuvimos dos eventos,

algunas personas todavía no pasan la coldera.

Así que, como hablé a Betty,

el día de la noche,

es 12ºC y gloria el sol.

Pero la cosa es...

¿Las noches, entonces?

Sí, pero la temperatura dropa en la noche.

Así que, básicamente,

he llegado al plane,

llegué aquí,

llegué al hotel,

tenido comida en la cama,

eso es todo lo que he hecho,

he llegado y he hecho esto.

Pero cuando llegué al hotel el día de la noche,

en realidad, cuando llegué al plane,

se fue despejando y...

No.

...colda.

Y eso fue cuando llegué a la hora,

que se iba a qualificar.

Así que hablaremos de eso un poco,

pero es un terreno de terrestres,

que estoy llegando al plane,

esto es cuando las caras están en el chac,

y es, como dijo Betty,

Manchester en el Área de Winter de Estados Unidos,

y despejeando.

Así que podría ser interesante,

pero como hablamos,

no, es sonido.

Es un sonido glorioso,

como he dicho en la caña de mi hotel,

que si estás viendo en YouTube,

como dijo Betty antes de empezar a recordar,

verás mis curtins hermosas.

Sí,

se cazan con tu vestido.

Justo,

¿Has jugado soques a la coca?

¿O un gelo a la coca?

¿Has jugado los gui?

¿Qué es el crac?

La última año,

yo estaba muerto de la coca,

y me dijeron,

sí, pero quiero ser tan bien.

Y este año,

he ido,

olvídense de ser tan bien,

voy a grabar,

creo que te vas a ver

en tu segundo año de Vagas.

Así que tengo boas,

grandes boas soques,

creo que el key

para mantener una buena temperatura,

Betty, es instalar los pies.

He longuado.

Totalmente concreto,

pies y manos,

pies y manos.

Así que tengo algunas

grandes boas,

algunas soques.

El tie-up

para la semana

va a ser un vestido tan duro

y luego tengo a Betty.

Sabes,

de nuevo,

para una buena instalaría,

la coca.

La coca.

¡Oh, sí!

Así que ha trabajado

un truco

en los episodios de Shakedown

en Silverstone.

Así que tengo el vestido de la coca,

y luego el vestido de Big Puffer.

En los episodios de Shakedown,

yo fui para Suede,

tú fui para la coca.

Suede no me quedó caliente.

Oh, la coca, sí.

La coca era genial.

Así que el vestido de la coca

con el vestido de Puffer

por encima de la coca.

Y he incluso

hecho una cura de Fast and Curious

de Wally Hacks.

Es la única Wally Hacks que he hecho.

Así que voy a hacer un met...

¡Hang on!

Merch.

Reping.

¡Gracias!

En el parque de la semana.

Sí.

He just ordered

algunas soques heitas,

como con un botón

y todo,

como con una soca

electrónica

y manos.

Porque estoy presentando

la Libertad de Pueblas

mañana

en Sanford Bridge

y se va a ser

como minus 5.

Creo que ambos

vamos a tener un frío.

Pero yo creo que las pierdas,

no lo sé,

van a ser los minuses.

Los minuses.

Bueno,

frío.

Frío.

No estoy en el frío,

como mis ades

lo hacen,

infortunadamente.

¡Lovla!

¡Muy bien!

Me voy a ser lento.

Mi mente no funciona.

Bueno,

vamos a dejar de hablar

sobre el frío

y lo que hemos comprado.

Porque en el episodio de hoy

vamos a discutir

quién es el mejor lugar

para performar

bien en el frío

las calles de la deserta de Nevada.

No yo, no Christian.

También vamos a dar

nuestros textos

y lo que está pasando

en Ferrari.

Y también,

vamos a hacer el escenario

para el final de la F1 Academy.

Pero primero,

también quiero apologizar

a todos nuestros

viewers internacionales,

por favor,

y los escuchadores.

Bueno,

lo voy a hacer.

Me voy a aportar.

Y yo hice un montón de mensajes.

¿Hablas?

Yo estoy muy sorprendido.

Bienvenido a mi mundo.

Pero no tengo el derecho

de estar en el frío

sobre el tiempo

diferente a Vegas,

porque he estado

arreglando este mes.

No quiero ir hasta el 4 de la noche.

No funciona para mí, chicos.

Estoy en el frío,

es una noche,

pero muchos de nuestros

escuchadores

tienen que hacer el tiempo

y no se atreven.

Entonces, no quieren escuchar a nosotros.

No, no.

¿Sabes qué?

Un juego de fair.

Sí, un juego de fair.

Pero es,

es aún no idea

que sea.

Antes, no.

No es ideal.

No, no lo vamos a hacer.

Si lo hicieras cada semana,

no te gustaría.

No te gustaría.

Pero,

ya sabes,

tenemos que hacer

lo que tenemos que hacer.

¿Cómo?

Te crees que

el podcast de D-Brief

podría ser absolutamente caos

porque estaré haciendo

más tarde a la noche.

Como,

muy tarde.

Tú estarás haciendo

el primero de la mañana.

Nadie ha tenido

la mejor competencia

a lo mejor de las veces.

No, no, no.

No puedo escuchar una sentencia ahora mismo.

No.

No solo de 5 a.m.

en la mañana.

Así que,

es el día de la noche para eso.

No vamos a seguir a tu compañía.

Bueno,

hemos vendido ese.

Pero va a ser bueno.

Y vamos a despertar.

Porque

Lando Norris

está en 390 puntos.

Oscar Piaz Street

24 puntos detrás de él

en 366 puntos.

Es básicamente lo que significa a todos

que Lando

puede afortunizar

segundo a Piaz Street

en las otras tres racistas

y la Catáspina también.

Y todavía ganó el título.

Max Verstappen

es de 341 puntos.

Es 49 puntos detrás de él.

Hemos todavía 83 puntos detrás de él.

Así que no vamos a ganar

eso, nada más.

Así que vamos a hablar

de todo eso.

Pero ¿Puedo empezar con Ferrari,

Cristian?

Porque esto ha sido

todo por mi social media.

Todo el mundo está hablando de eso.

La pregunta es,

¿están los carros de Ferrari

hablando demasiado?

Y ¿es distraccionante

de ellos de la ruta?

Sí.

Así que si estás...

Si te has perdido esto,

todo esto fue bastante

el día o dos

después de la última ruta.

Y el chairman de Ferrari,

John Elcan,

ha dicho que los carros

necesitan enfocarse

en carros y hablar menos.

Y fue crítico

sobre lo que los carros

han estado haciendo

en el carro

durante el curso de la sesión.

No vamos a leer los cuantos,

pero hay cosas como,

¿sí?

Bueno, los mecánicos.

O si,

tenemos un piso de pérdida,

tipo de cosas.

Así que,

fue una cosa extraña

para decir.

Betty,

me voy a responder

tu pregunta primero.

¿Están los carros hablando demasiado?

Ha habido tiempos de esta sesión

donde Luis ha salido con

algunas cosas muy ricas.

Me sentí.

Así que, para responder tu pregunta

directamente,

posiblemente,

a veces, sí.

Ha habido tiempos

donde han ido a la ruta.

Luis, en particular,

en...

Estoy hablando de una ruta

pre-summer, ¿verdad?

Donde él ha tenido esa ruta.

Bueno, él ha sortido de decir

en un par de ocasiones,

oh, bueno,

me deseo,

me deseo que ustedes conocen

lo que estaba pasando.

Y entonces,

cuando me dieron cuenta de lo que estaba pasando,

fue como, oh, no lo puedo decir,

no puedo decir.

Y he encontrado situaciones

como eso,

un poco extraño,

porque...

Es como,

dice lo que está pasando

detrás de las escenas,

porque te asustas

la teoría de la conspiración.

Si dices,

yo solo deseo que ustedes conocen

lo que estaba pasando

y cosas como eso.

Puedo ser un poco

desgraciado, Luis,

pero fue...

fue en esas líneas.

Pero,

escucha,

estas son...

Esto es un poco menos de Luis.

Hace solo una vez o dos

esta temporada,

donde pensé,

en realidad,

no habría dicho eso.

Es menor.

Y no ha pasado por un tiempo.

Hay ese punto,

antes de un par de escenas,

donde Luis se sentía bastante...

realmente,

realmente desgraciado,

tanto en él mismo,

y probablemente más de la equipo.

Así que no digo que es

una gran cosa aquí, Betty.

Pero a mí,

regardless de eso,

yo respondo a tu pregunta aquí.

¿Han hablado demasiado?

En una ocasión,

sí,

para ser balanceado,

pero yo creo que eso es

una mala cosa para John

para venir y decirlo.

También,

espero que haya sido un poco desgraciado,

o que suena

menos en la príncipe,

que lo ha mentido

cuando él estaba hablando,

si eso hace sentido.

Porque también creo que es

una cosa bastante preocupante,

para decirlo.

Sí,

lo he dicho,

y también creo que él es

un poco...

¿Por qué no escuchas a ti, John,

¿por qué no escuchas a los colegios

en vez de hablar a los medios?

Yo creo que...

¿Por qué no escuchas a los colegios?

¿Por qué publicas así?

No entiendo.

100,000%

regardless de si Luis o Charles

están en ocasión,

más de un tiempo,

24 años de la carrera,

cuando ellos se entrevisten

varias veces a la semana,

regardless de si han tomado

un paso demasiado

en una de esas ocasiones,

como lo dijo Luis,

lo he dicho dos veces en mi visión,

bien.

En el medio,

no es lo right thing to do.

Y también,

creo que

tienes que aceptar eso

si estás escribiendo a Luis Hamilton,

especialmente en este momento,

en su carrera.

Luis siempre ha sido un colegio

que ha sido vocal.

No ha podido seguir

adelante con una opinión.

Lo gustamos por eso.

Es quién Luis es.

Él se despliega de la frontera.

¿Te recuerdas en nuestros

primeros episodios

de The Fast and the Curious?

Estar a ver a Mercedes,

espérate que si estás escribiendo a Luis Hamilton,

especialmente en este momento de su carrera,

especialmente cuando él se ha convertido

en un equipo, como Ferrari,

que ha desaparecido

por años.

Y decirlo, es preocupante,

porque aquí están,

diciendo,

Ferrari necesita

seguir con la estructura de manejo.

Hemos dicho muchas veces por la temporada.

Ha sido mucho shopping y cambiando.

Necesitamos,

seguir con algo si van a ganar.

No sugería un campo feliz.

Y para mí,

no sugería a alguien

dirigido por arriba.

¿Quién sabe lo que está haciendo?

No, no, no.

Si fuese a Ferrari,

vayan y critican

Charles Leclerc

para todo lo que ha hecho para ese equipo,

el servidor que él es

y Luis Hamilton,

según el modo en el que ha sido.

No se puede criticar

en un millón de años,

¿verdad?

Yo just find it a bizarre thing to do.

I wonder whether he meant it more in the way of

some Ferrari is

one of, if not the biggest team in Formula One.

Don't come at me,

but it is massive.

And when you drive for Ferrari,

you have got so much pressure on your shoulders,

so much outside pressure.

It's an iconic team.

You've got the whole of Italy

wanting you to win.

And I wonder whether he just more sort of meant

stop talking to the media

and almost like increasing that pressure on yourself

and just try and just head down and concentrate.

I wonder whether he meant it more in that sort of way.

And as I say, if I'm being balanced here,

there's been times where I thought

Luis has overstepped the mark this season.

So to that point, Betty,

if it had said it like you've just brilliantly articulated it.

Well, I don't know if my grandma was very good, but.

No, I think he articulated it marvelously.

I think I think the point I'm getting

as I'm really trying to be balanced here.

The point I'm guessing is there probably has been points

where they have taken it too far,

particularly on the Lewis side,

but you're going to expect that.

And regardless of that,

coming into the press to do it

is is not the right thing to do.

I'll be interested to see if he's here this weekend.

I'm talking to you from the morning of media day.

So it'll be interesting to see if

if John is in the paddock this weekend.

If he is, it'll be interesting to see

because he'd get asked about it.

He'd get TV cameras thrust in his face.

No, you know, if you were a print journalist,

you would go and talk to him about it.

You just would be interested to see

whether he takes the opportunity to roll back

and say something that didn't quite come across

how I intended it.

I've spoken to the drivers

because he needs to have sympathy for the fact

that his drivers are interviewed

three, four times over the course

of a race weekend in the pen,

all the extra interviews they do,

the frustration of a 24 race season,

given that the car isn't where it needs to be.

It's so easy to turn around and say,

oh, well, you know, you need to be better than that, guys.

It's really tricky to control yourself

for a whole season when you've been having a micro

and pushed in your face all season

and you're having a bad year.

I would have expected a bit more of an understanding

from my boss in that situation.

So I think it's not ideal

and it'll be really interesting to see

what follows on from it.

Also on that, your expecting drivers,

the sport is expecting drivers to speak

straight after coming out of the car.

So we know that, you know,

they're dehydrated, they're knackered,

their mind is probably frazzled,

they've got adrenaline running through their veins.

Think they're gonna say things, they just are,

they're gonna be asked questions

and they're gonna, well, exactly.

Talking about Lewis Hamilton,

he's never completed a season

without making it onto a podium before in his career.

Doesn't look like that's gonna carry on, does it?

Do you think, do you think Lewis Hamilton

is gonna get a Ferrari podium at any point

with the last remaining races?

If you pushed me for that answer straight, no I don't.

But I think go back a couple of grand prix,

we were saying that things have improved.

He's then had a bad one last time out.

So I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility

because there have been times where he's looked

way closer to Charlotte Clair and qualifying.

Generally speaking, post summer break,

his averages to La Clair and qualifying

have come right back down

and bar a couple of outliers, it's not been too bad.

So I think stranger things have happened

but it seems unlikely.

It's such a shame, isn't it, though, Christian?

Because it does feel like he's very close.

Every driver seems to struggle,

obviously, when they get in a new car, don't they?

And it's taken Lewis quite a long time this season

but the last few races,

it feels like things are starting to click, doesn't it?

Yeah, obviously, Brazil was a bit of a shocker.

I mean, it was for both the Ferrari

but then there was a run fourth in the USA

where he wasn't far off.

Mexico wasn't great either, as I've said,

he's had a couple of Duff ones,

but then prior to that, I mean, granted,

you look at the finishing positions

with the likes of eighth in Baku and eighth in Singapore,

but that doesn't tell the full story.

There have been times in that

where the pace has been much closer.

So it isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

Listen, Lewis Hamilton hasn't been able to get to grips

with this generation of car.

We've spoken before on the podcast.

Alex Brundle, when we had him on for a race debrief,

but really well on it a while ago now,

that the advantage of late breakers in this rule set,

the drivers like Daniel Lucardo and Lewis Hamilton,

who've really got advantages

from being able to be last of the late breakers

and get the car slow down and still in control

and still manage to get your foot on the accelerator

at the right time to maximize your exit of the next corner

and maximize the next part of the track.

It's tricky when you build all of that sequence

on last of the late breakers,

it doesn't feel like your,

the Cardo's and your Hamilton's

have quite been able to get to grips with that

with this rule set.

So you've got to take,

you've got to bear in mind

that it's a rule set Lewis Hamilton

doesn't particularly get on with a car

that by all both drivers account,

you know, accounts this season is tricky.

It's been the perfect storm to me.

And again, I've said this before as well.

Next season is where we're gonna really see,

okay, where is Lewis Hamilton?

A whole new car, a whole new rule set.

Leclerc's advantage of knowing the car

for so long is reset.

And then we'll see where he is.

I actually think there is reason to be cheerful

for Lewis Hamilton.

He has really,

those qualifying performances in particular,

I don't think it's quite as bad

as some of those race results say,

but it matters for the likes of us,

Betty, you know, Hamilton's not been on the podium,

et cetera, et cetera.

I don't think it matters in general.

I don't think it's a massive thing

because next year is key.

I don't think it's massive

that we could say

all Lewis hasn't been on the podium.

There's been many factors

behind that that you can unpack.

So there's reasons possibly to be optimistic

for Lewis Hamilton.

Do you think there's reasons

to be optimistic for Fred Vassue?

Is he in trouble?

Because obviously Ferrari haven't,

by their high standards,

haven't had, you know,

the best season.

Things, things are a little bit tricky.

I guess there's a breakdown

in communication possibly

as well in the media.

Well, again, Betty,

it all goes back to next season, really.

Securing second in the constructors

would be important

in the sense that them coming third

would be a disaster.

Considering Mercedes

have basically in many ways

written off the constructors this year

in order to bring through a young driver.

Mercedes know that if they had

stuck Carlos Sanz in the car,

they'd probably have more points

than if they had Kimi Antonelli.

But they believe this is a long term thing

worthwhile.

No, I, I agree with them, by the way.

I think Kimi's had a great back end of the season.

No worries with Kimi.

But when they've had

that rookie driver in the seat,

if Ferrari still can't take

second in the constructors championship, it's bad.

So second in the constructors championship

I think it's fairly important for morale.

But Fred Vassar will be made

or broken next season

by the rule changes.

They need to come in and be competitive.

They just need to.

I think teams that struggle next season

will find management and drivers

really under pressure quite quickly

because we you know how long

we've been talking about 2026.

You know how long the sports

been talking about 2026 for.

Yeah, Ferrari are exactly the same.

So to answer your question, Betty,

we won't know until Australia next season.

But I talk about Australia next season,

round one, right?

If Ferrari are bad in Australia,

I guarantee in our post race debrief

we'll be talking about.

Is this bad for Fred Vassar?

It'll come that quickly.

If Ferrari struggle at the start of next season,

they will come for Vassar straight away.

So in answer to your question, Betty,

to be confirmed, they need to limp through

to the end of this season

put some of the behind the scenes

chat to one side and go

and regroup next year

when it will all be really significant next season.

They've got two incredible drivers,

some two really, really good drivers in their team.

You can't see them

struggling again next season.

Surely, surely.

The drivers don't worry me.

I think if you give

for Lewis Hamilton and Charlotte

Claire a good car, they'll be fine.

It's history shows us

they've not won a championship,

a driver's championship

since Kenny Reichenan in the 2000s.

It's not the drivers that the issue here is the car.

The big question marks

whether Ferrari can give those drivers the right car.

OK, let's take a very quick break

and when we're back, we'll preview Vegas.

Christian, the end of the season

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The championship battle has been insane.

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I mean, I'm usually ready for a break

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Like, with so little in it,

with Landau and Asuka going between them.

But like the winter break is getting shorter and shorter.

So there's a saying we don't want this season to end,

but 2026 will literally be here before we know it.

I know, I think you need a holiday, to be honest.

I think we all need a holiday,

but our sports fans were so fickle, aren't we?

Because instantly there is going to be a whole load

of new storylines that we are just going to get carried away

with, a whole load of new drivers that we are going to get behind

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And there's also going to be brand new cars

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Okay, so Max is 49 points behind Lando Norris

We know Max loves Vegas.

Is this his best chance, Christian,

to take some points away from McLaren?

I don't think so because it's been so up and down this season.

I don't think you could class this particular race

as more or less of a chance than Katara Abu Dhabi.

You could certainly come round and say,

McLaren have struggled in the cold weather here recently.

So on that basis, yes.

But actually, I think that's just guesswork.

I actually think that's just guesswork.

I actually think if he's gonna take points out of McLaren,

it could happen anywhere because this is Max, right?

We can throw logic out the window.

He could just find the right setup and blitz them anyway.

So I actually don't, there'll be people who say yes

to that question better.

I just don't think it matters that much.

I think this Max and Red Bull have been so up

and down this season.

Wouldn't surprise me for any of the remaining three races.

Max is just the quickest car.

I just think that's where we are.

They could turn up at any point and win the race

when we don't expect them to look at Japan.

That's a really great example.

No one expects them to win there.

But, well, I think your question is pertinent,

Betty Winglover, is he sort of got to do it here,

really, because time's running out.

I think, yeah, so much of what we've said,

is Max still in it, is Max still in it?

Well, it's now or never time

because we're running out of Grand Prix.

I think we're in the position where if Lando

and Oscar finish ahead of Max at the end of this one,

it's all but done and it's looking unlikely already.

So he's got to not only go and win the race,

which, as I've just said, is more than feasible.

He could do that at any point.

But also he's got to hope something bad happens to Lando

and Oscar in terms of at eighth, the ninth, the spin,

what have you, which as we'll get onto in a bit,

if it's going to happen anywhere, could happen here,

it could, but it could happen anywhere.

This is the thing.

No one would have expected

some of the performances we've seen.

No one would have expected the sprint race problems

from McLaren.

So yeah, it's just, it's just anyone's guess.

On McLaren, we saw Oscar made a few improvements last time out,

but obviously he had penalties and errors,

they were his massive issue.

Do you reckon if he can continue those improvements

and just stay clean, keep his head,

keep his fighting spirit,

he can get himself back into this?

Yes, I do.

It is far from beyond the rounds of possibility

that Oscar Piazza wins this championship.

There is enough of a driver in there

to turn up this weekend,

do a better job than Lando and win the race.

There is enough of a driver in there for Oscar

to see Vegas as another switch in form

where Oscar turned it back round

and did well in the remaining three races.

I don't think it will happen.

Lando was very good in Abu Dhabi last year, for example.

So it's starting to feel like

more Lando territory to the end of the season.

And I think Lando is in such a good place

that I don't think he'll let that happen.

But to your question, Betty, answering your question,

yes, that is possible.

I don't see Oscar as a different driver

to the one that I said will win championships

at the start of the season.

He's made mistakes.

He's in bad form.

There's starting to definitely be more credence to the theory

that upgrades McLaren have made

don't suit him as well as Lando.

Now, it's a massively significant thing to

McLaren as sabotaging Oscar

and making the car in favour of Lando.

That's a different thing to...

Actually, things we've bolted on the car

don't suit me quite as well as they suit my teammates

because that's just the run of the mill.

That's the look of the draw.

That's how upgrades work.

So I don't think...

You'd be like, oh, guys, just leave it alone.

Well, the thing is, they were being beaten by Red Bull

so they couldn't just leave it alone.

I don't...

The feeling here, the talk here, the chat here

is that Lando is now the overwhelming favourite

for this title, that it's his to lose,

that he's the man in form,

that he's the one that looks like

he's going to quite comfortably turn up

and maybe get one more win in a couple of seconds

and take home the title.

But, as I say, Oscar Piastri is a bloody talented

Formula One driver who I'm convinced his time will come.

Don't rule that out.

Don't rule out chaos

if Lando being spun round or an icy bit of track.

There's so many variables that could still go into it

and that is why it is still open.

Lando is the favourite.

Lando is the one you'd want to be

going into these final few races,

but don't rule anything out yet.

I am intrigued to see how McLaren

are going to approach this race, though.

Like, do they just sort of stay out of trouble?

Do they try and play it safe and just stay clean?

And how... What do they do?

I'm asking that question, but in my head I'm thinking,

well, you know what they're going to do.

There's two incredible drivers

who are professional sportsmen.

They are going to go out there and try and win,

no matter what happens. Oscar has to.

And I think it'll be intriguing

to see how they both approach it.

I don't think you can change anything,

particularly from the Lando side of the garage.

Well, yeah, we know that he only needs to come second fine,

but I don't think you can change anything from your approach.

I think McLaren are just going to do

what they've done all season

and let them be, let them race

until they've realised that, you know,

something might have favoured one or the other,

then they'll do what they've always done.

McLaren won't change their approach.

Lando certainly won't change his approach,

because why would you?

Because he's been going brilliantly these last few races.

He's the man in form.

And you don't do the soccer,

football, cliché, playing for the draw.

When you're ahead, you just carry on

and you aim to win and you race to win.

You never change that.

And if you're Oscar, exactly as you pointed out, Betty,

you know, all right,

there was the moment in Brazil

where he went off, we know that.

But that aside, exactly as you said, Betty, you're right.

Case-wise, it was a step up from where it had been.

He wasn't quite as lagging behind Lando

across the whole weekend as he had been before.

So if you're Oscar,

you've got to just trust yourself

and keep looking where he'll come out of this slump.

I firmly believe that.

Whether that's next season, as I said,

whether it's this weekend or next weekend

because he'll come out of this slump

in the meantime, he just needs to do what he can.

He does indeed.

We know that Mercedes thrive in the cold.

They do well in the cold.

We know George Russell likes Vegas.

We know Verstappen likes Vegas.

Do you think George is the favourite coming into this?

I don't know, Betty.

It's obviously my job to analyse the sport on this podcast,

but I think it's really important to say

when we don't know things.

I don't think it's as simple as just to say,

Mercedes ran in the cold well last year,

so they will this year.

To go back off what I said at the top of the show,

Vegas is such an outlier

because even when we go to tracks where it is cooler

and we're outside wearing jackets in Japan

or at Silverstone or in Spa,

you're still there in the summer,

so it's still not cold, cold.

As I said, counteract to what I said at the top of the show,

I'm getting off the plane.

It's like icy cold wind, rain blowing it down,

and the weather is changeable this weekend,

so rain could well play a factor.

It's an outlier.

These cars are simply not used to racing in winter mode.

It's like when you,

I don't know if you ever played the old rally driving games

as a kid, I'm guessing you didn't, Betty,

but like I did.

No, Simpsons hit and run, I played that.

Yeah, but okay, fine.

You change your winter mode on

and all of a sudden you're driving around in snow

and it's icy.

That's what the Vegas Grand Prix is,

but I think Mercedes have actually,

I've heard people chasing about them a lot

in the run up to Vegas

and you start to look ahead and you start to go,

okay, where's gonna be a red bull track?

Where's gonna be a Mercedes track?

And Mercedes have been really quick to say,

look, Vegas is an outlier

just because our car worked last year in the cold.

It's not like it's that's a known characteristic

that we will definitely,

history shows it's ran well in the cold,

but they're not as confident as to turn around and go,

yes, it's cold weather.

Therefore, we definitely think we'll be able

to win this Grand Prix

because it's just not that easy.

It's tricky.

It also might be a step colder than it was last year.

Vegas is such an outlier of conditions

that I don't think anyone is coming into this weekend

knowing who's going to be quickest

in a season that it's been very difficult

to come in knowing who's going to be the quickest anyway.

So yes, I still think if you were gonna push before

we know I probably would say, George,

based on what we've known,

but don't expect it to be a slam dunk.

It's cold, Mercedes will be fast.

It might well turn out that way,

but last year, right?

They did well all weekends.

I was on American Radio previewing the race

chatting to those guys.

I remember the expert they had on said,

but I don't think they'll be able to keep that pace up

in the race.

They've been good all weekend.

I don't think they'll be able to keep that pace up in the race.

He said that because Mercedes had been saying that.

Mercedes had sort of been quietly going,

I don't think we'll last.

It's lovely to have a poll.

And then they won.

And afterwards, you sort of had them going,

oh, wow, that was good, wasn't it?

We're not quite sure why we've been so great.

And Mercedes have had similar moments this year.

So yeah.

They have.

When George Russell was like, oh, I don't know why.

Yeah.

Why that car was good.

I don't know why.

It's not a slam dunk that Mercedes will just dominate this weekend

because it's cold, because they've historically done it in cold.

Vegas is too different to be sure.

And plus, Betty, sorry.

And I'm on a bit of a ramble here.

You are.

It's OK.

Thanks, mate.

I also just think this is where the drivers come in a lot.

Something that's probably not talked about enough

is how difficult it is to get the cars to grip when grip is low.

You need a certain amount of bravery to generate heat in your tires,

to generate heat in the car, in the brakes,

to make sure you've got grip when temperatures are low,

when there's rain.

So if you're too cautious, you will end up spinning.

If you are not cautious, if you are overzealous,

you'll snap the brakes, you'll snap the rear away

and you'll end up in the wall in a weekend

where it's possibly colder than we've seen before in Vegas,

where we might well have rain in play.

We are in territory where the drivers

could really, really make a difference here this weekend.

That would be my sort of noted preview.

It's so hard to drive these cars in cold conditions.

They're just not used to it.

So mistakes could be a big factor this weekend.

Individual errors and individual driver performance

where you've got differences between teammates.

Because I think this is a weekend

where the driver could really make a difference

because they're going to earn their money this weekend.

It's going to be really, it's a tricky ask,

driving these cars round this circuit in these temperatures.

So what I'm hearing is that Max Verstappen is going to win.

That's what I'm hearing from what you're saying.

I mean, if you, that's a very logical place

to have gone with that analysis, Betty,

that if you're saying the driver's going to make a difference,

you go, well, Max, yeah, I, I hear you, I hear you.

Yeah, you could well be right pal.

He's not bad, he's not bad as old Max Verstappen.

No, he's historically gone well round here.

Even though he didn't win last year,

he's historically gone well.

Obviously clinched the championship here last year as well.

Was that last year?

God, I can't remember now.

And remember him singing Vegas down the radio

when he'd been previously slating the circuit.

So yeah, he's one that he's picked up the championship here.

So yeah, it is Max Territory.

No, all that add either.

And also what I'm hearing from what you're saying

is that it's going to be a very exciting race

because basically we can't really predict it.

We don't.

It's not going to be just an easy thing to predict.

No, anything.

And that's my, that's my type of race.

Yeah, I don't like coming on and going.

It's going to be a belter

because even racers that sometimes you think

are going to be a belter

then turn out to sometimes be a bit of a damp script,

such as sport or sports.

Get this, but logically Betty, it should be a belter.

It's going to be a belter.

It's going to be amazing.

Yeah, because because as you say, yeah, tricky conditions.

Driver's making the difference.

Cold weather, cars are used to running

in these temperatures, a street circuit.

This track, you either love or you hate Vegas.

I think it's lovely that Formula One tries new things.

I'm all for the Vegas Grand Prix.

But whether you like the event or not,

the tracks produce good racing.

You can overtake round here.

So it's a track that produces good racing

and predictable conditions.

Driver's making a difference.

You know me, I don't want to make a bold prediction,

but I think it will.

I'd be very surprised if it wasn't

the greatest Formula One Grand Prix

in all of its 75 years.

It will be the best one.

I think this will be the best one.

I think that's right.

It's going to be the best one ever.

Ever.

Everyone in the UK is going to wake up

before 4 a.m. with no regrets whatsoever.

They're going to be buzzing.

Yeah, imagine if it's terrible.

It probably is.

It's going to be terrible.

Max is just going to win it.

Fine, done.

You know, you said dump squib earlier.

Yeah, well, once you go over this, yeah.

I used to think until very, very recently.

I know what you're going to say.

I am 30 years old.

I thought it was dump squib.

And I still can't believe it is dump squib.

Squib, what's a squib?

I do like these dump squib.

Fast, curious, part, actually.

It's not really Formula One related,

but Sonic will do what we like.

Fast, curious, part on the socials.

What where have you thought that you are saying

and that's not saying before?

Betty's dump squib is one.

I'd like to read some more of those out of the debrief.

What is a squib?

I don't know.

What is a dump?

What is a squib?

Well, I'm going to Google it.

I'm going to Google it.

Sorry, guys.

While you're Googling that,

just another thing to mention, Betty,

as well while you're Googling squib.

The Constructors' Championship

is something we should also really keep an eye on.

Racing Bulls and Sixth on 82.

Aston Martin Seventh and 72.

Hass Eighth on 70.

I've come right back into it recently,

not least because of Oli Behrman and Salva on 62.

The Constructors' Championship is fascinating

and we should really keep an eye on that.

That's when you'll win the last three races.

We'll really start to think about that.

That's something we should really focus in on this weekend.

It'll be a real in-focus point

the Constructors' Championship battle this weekend.

Yeah, we definitely will.

Just if anyone cares,

squib originates from fireworks.

So, squib is a small firework

that is supposed to ignite with a loud hiss and bang.

If it's damp, then it doesn't work.

I don't know that.

Genuinely didn't know that.

Yeah, there we go.

It's informative, this podcast, isn't it?

I'm surprised it's not on the BBC

because we do both inform and entertain, don't we?

It's quite Lord...

It's quite Lord Rethian, this podcast.

I've often thought it.

Oh, God!

Right, I think we need a break

just to recalibrate the brain cells

and then we'll come back and actually talk about Form 1.

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Hello. Welcome back to Fast and the Curious.

We are gonna talk about F1 now on F1 only.

We're not gonna go off track.

We're gonna have no damp squibs.

You mentioned the constructors earlier.

¿Qué haces, Manny?

Me he estado en la P1,

me he estado en la P1,

me he estado en la P1.

Me he estado en la P1, me he estado en la P1.

Los constructores están en la P1.

Es interesante que habláis de cómo es muy interesante en el fondo.

Es muy intensa.

¿Por qué es que esto importa mucho para la equipo?

Explica a nosotros por qué es tan importante.

Siempre es importante para las personas más nuevas a la fórmula 1

que el campeonato de los colegios es potencialmente más sexier.

Es el que le da la atención.

Y eso no es solo porque Charlotte Clairs,

es generalmente considerado el campeonato sexier.

Pero los constructoros son los que matan a los colegios,

los colegios, porque, simple y sencillamente,

tienes millones más de dólares en el dinero de los precios,

el más más alto te finishing el campeonato de los constructoros.

La fórmula 1 no publica exactamente lo que es,

así que no tenemos exactos figuras,

pero estás hablando de millones y millones aquí

que una fórmula 7 a 8

que realmente hace diferencia en términos de dinero de precios.

Y, sí, estamos operando bajo un cost cap

y, sí, a más de los colegios llegan a ese cost cap,

pero no underestimate cuánto importante el dinero de precios

es para estos colegios,

en particular, ir a una nueva fórmula.

Y es especialmente importante para los colegios más pequeños

que no deberían ser tomados para la fórmula.

Entonces, tus colegios transicionando a Audi,

your Williams, your Haas,

teams that have historically not had the budget

of your Mercedes Red Bulls and Ferraris,

it matters massively to them.

Of course, we mentioned at the top of the show

with Ferrari wanting to get second,

that matters more for pride, to be honest.

Let's be honest, Mercedes coming second to Ferrari coming second,

they've got the money, it's not as important to them,

I'll be honest, but it's much, much more important

to those teams at the bottom, not just for pride,

but the prize money makes a significant factor.

On the flip side to that, there is the sliding scale

of aerodynamic development.

So the team that finishes...

I want to practice your attention.

Oh yes, it's a speaker of sex,

ETH, sliding scale of aerodynamic development.

The sliding scale of aerodynamic development.

Alpine that finish 10th, we're imagining,

will finish 10th in the constructor championship.

They will get the most amount of time to spend developing

their car in the wind tunnel next year.

ETH will get the second most.

The consolation to not coming as high up

in the constructor's championship is you do get

more time in the wind tunnel.

So that's why it matters, it's very important,

particularly for that middle block of teams as well.

I mean, you just look at people in there like Aston Martin.

Aston Martin will not want to be being beaten

by Red Bull's B team, for example.

Again, they're focusing all on 2026

and the Adrian New Year is starting proper,

but they're just not going to want to be there.

And credit to Ollie Bearman because he's dragged

so yeah, exciting stuff.

Also buzzing for Williams.

They're doing well, they're up there.

I mean, I mean, we can't say enough

how much for a good season they've had.

Absolutely brilliant, you've expected them

to be in that hunt for 7th, 8th night,

but they were right up there

and barring miracles of a, you know,

a team like RB getting a 1-2 or something,

they'll get 5th.

So we should be phenomenal for them

considering that they have been focusing on 2026

since about 1986.

So yeah, I...

Yes, all James Charles talks about.

All James Charles talks about.

Morning James, what's your IP breakfast?

I think well 2026 breakfast is going to be important for us.

So yeah, yes.

I can't talk about that because 2026!

Let's just quickly talk about F1 Academy

before we wrap up because the championship

is going to be decided in Vegas.

This is all very exciting.

It's been a brilliant season, hasn't it?

Dorian Pan is 9 points ahead.

She's had a great season, hasn't she, Christian?

She has, I would say

the pressure is on her.

9 points is a decent enough buffer

to go into a final race.

And she's been right up there.

So it would be a surprise if Maya does it.

The one thing I'd say is if you draw

back to when we had

the likes of Chloe Grant,

who was in F1 Academy in the first season,

she was previewing the second season

and she was saying

that Dorian

is sort of the more experienced

racing driver.

A lot of people were expecting her to win the title

last year

and Abby Polling won the title

and there was a moment I've spoken about

on the podcast before in Miami last year

where it was all of a sudden like,

ah, Abby is a realistic title contender here

and went on to win the championship.

So I think Dorian's been

sort of expected

to win the title.

So I think

there's a bit of pressure on her there.

I don't think she'll put that pressure on herself

and feel that pressure. I've interviewed her a couple of times.

I think she's really nice. She's really funny.

She doesn't strike me as the type to go into a race

nervy or stressed about the situation.

So I would say

she's the favourite. As you say, Betty,

she's had a really, really good year.

And I think the series has had a good year

as a whole. If you've not

seen our interview

with Susie Wolf yet, go and watch it

on the YouTube channel. Listen back on the podcast

feed. It's brilliant where we talk about

the growth of the series

and what I have loved

going into this Vegas weekend

is seeing

so much on my socials

the hello kitty tie up

that Susie spoke about.

I mean, if you're new to this podcast,

most people won't be if you've got to this point

at the pod. Most people will be loyal listeners.

But we don't take the sport too seriously.

And therefore we appreciate

when other people don't take the sport too seriously.

And what's really

lovely

is seeing

sort of bright pink hello kitty

merch everywhere.

Not just sort of being proud of being

if you are a girly girl, a girly girl

as sort of Susie spoke about

on the podcast so well that you don't have to be a tomboy

to be in sport. You can be anything you like.

There's that side of it. But there's also

for me, they're just having fun

and having a big fun

brand partnership like that.

This sport is so much better

for having F1 Academy

in it and around it.

And in the week there was the confirmation

that all the teams have signed up

to continue, all the Formula 1 teams

have continued to sign up

to back F1 Academy

and use their brands in the series.

Which is great news.

The sport is doing

such great things

in showcasing to

young girls that look

motorsport is out there and it's out there for me.

And it's just lovely

seeing it continue to grow

in it's popularity and it's reach.

And having those moments

like the Hello Kitty stuff where everyone's talking about it

where it's like oh that's cool, that's fun.

So thank God for F1 Academy

we need it in this sport, it's great.

So it's been great to see the sport take another

growth forward this year, great to see the series

take another step forward. And whoever wins

it's been a good year.

It's been some phenomenal racing,

it's been some absolutely fantastic action

so it's absolutely brilliant.

You talk about her mindset going into it

I just read a quote from her

where she said well we're leading

so we're the best right, so we just keep going.

We just keep doing what we're doing.

You know when, like

and not that that wouldn't be a quote from her

but you're like yes that is the most

Dorian Pan thing to say

she's so sort of matua fact

and quite chill.

That is a logical

yeah it's like we're winning

so happy days, that is exactly what I was getting at

when I said she doesn't seem

the type to put pressure on herself

and I hadn't heard that quote so I suspect she'd be fine

but yeah it's been a really good season.

Yeah it's been a really good season

they've also had eight different winners across 12 races

before this so I mean

it will be interesting to see what happens

loads of points up for grabs over this weekend

in the F1 Academy

Anything else you want to talk about Christian?

No other than

a now lesser spotter than the podcast

Tyrrell's Tip bit

where producer Will Tyrrell

gives us some information

that we haven't heard before Betty

and I didn't know this, that Mercedes have come out with

a George Russell 150th

Grand Prix Celebration T-Shirts

to congratulate him

and Lando

on this milestone

in fact producer Will has just sent me this

oh it's fun

it's called T-Shirt

Oh it's him making the number Christian

Yeah I know it's him

I can see that

I'm more commenting on the T-Shirt love

I think the T-Shirts go

On the T-Shirt

the 63 is made out of his pose

Oh I see

I thought you were saying that George is wearing the T-Shirt

I know it's him

I can see that

It's him wearing it

I know it's him are you alright

I'm with you

That's fun

It looks like this

I mean it isn't

Yeah it's a nice T-Shirt

I don't know

I sort of think though

Yeah it's nice that we've got a Russell

Celebratory T-Shirt

I sort of think a Celebratory T-Shirt

for George Russell's 150th

isn't appropriate

I sort of feel like with George

a sort of character and personality

which we love by the way

this is all said with so much love

or something

or a plaque

a carriage clock

No no no, no it should be a pen

A pen, yeah

a celebratory

commemoratory

that's not a word, commemoration, pen

clipboard

community notice board

memory George Russell

community notice board

Bring it back George Russell's community notice board

That's where we just go through

bits of F1 news in detail

It hasn't been any F1 news this season

It's just been all McLaren

It's better than your cubbyhole

I've never liked the name cubbyhole

I've always wondered what cubbyhole

Anyway, go on Betty

What's your top three

Okay, if you insist

I'm going to go with

Max Verstappen

P1

I'm going to go George Russell P2

and I'm going to go

Clarence though

I'm going to go

I'm going to go Lando P3

and um

No

Okay, shove George off

George goes P3

Lando P2

That was the most shambolic prediction

you've offered all season

I'm still not fully sure what you've said

No, neither am I

I just

I can't even remember who I said was going to be P1 now

Max

Max will be P1, let's just leave it there

I'm unsure about the others

I hope people come to this podcast

for our skills and analysis

I'm going to go with

Russell P1 Verstappen P2

Hamilton P3

What about McLaren

I don't think they'll be on the podium

Yes, they will

Well, I think it'll be cold and I think the car won't suit it

and that's why

Oh, they were like sixth and seventh last year

Interesting

Bob will find out

We're going to do a debrief

So make sure you listen to our debrief

It might be less coherent than this

This hasn't been our strongest episode

So give it a solid

Six out of ten

End of the season

We can't be expected

No, no, we're crawling to the end

We're limping over the finish line

We really are absolutely limping over the finish line

Apologies for this sort of episode

But you know, we've had a go, haven't we?

Right, Betty, I'm going to get off

I'm going to go to the gym, then I'm going to go to the circuit

Oh, we'll have a fantastic time, Christian

Thanks, babes. Look forward to speaking to you

on the

early hours of Sunday morning for me

The not so early hours of Sunday morning for you

And yes

Please follow us on all the socials

We will be back

Straight after the Las Vegas Grand Prix

For me in Las Vegas

And from Betty in Manchester in the United Kingdom

Goodbye

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