The Ford Mustang is a popular American car that’s built for sporty driving. People often modify Mustangs, and you can even see unusual versions like a six-wheeled one. That’s why it shows up in stories about car shows and judging.
They’re talking about a charity event where people judge cars and teach kids how to look at them. It’s about the event and the kids learning, not a car tech deep-dive.
That “992.1 Turbo S” is a Porsche 911 Turbo S from the newer 911 generation. It’s one of the fastest, most powerful versions of the 911, with a twin-turbo engine and grip-focused drivetrain.
Ruta 40 is Argentina’s famous long-distance highway that runs roughly north–south across much of the country. It’s a popular road-trip route because it connects lots of remote landscapes and towns.
The Toyota Crown is a Toyota model that’s generally positioned as more upscale than a basic everyday sedan. The podcast talks about mixing it up with another vehicle connected to a movie. It’s mentioned because the Crown’s appearance can be recognizable in that context.
Tire age matters because rubber compounds degrade over time, which can reduce grip and increase the risk of failure even if tread looks fine. In the segment, the host uses a strict cutoff—older than seven years—to eliminate cars from the judging batch.
LP640 is a Lamborghini model from the Gallardo line. It’s a fast, enthusiast-focused car, and here it’s called out as one of the cars that stood out during the judging.
The Porsche 997 GT3 RS is a hardcore 911 meant for track driving. In this story, they mention it had a full cage, which is a safety roll-bar inside the cabin used for racing.
Tires have a code that tells you when they were made. “Date-coded 2015” means those tires were made in 2015. Older tires can feel fine but still be less grippy and more risky.
Slicks are tires made for maximum grip on dry pavement, usually with almost no tread. Because they’re meant for specific conditions, they can be a problem if they’re old. The host is using them to illustrate how tire age affects safety and event eligibility.
The Mercedes SLS AMG is a high-performance Mercedes. The host is saying that even a car like this can end up still using its original tires years later. Old tires can be dangerous and can also get a car disqualified at judging events.
“DQed” means disqualified—your car doesn’t qualify because it breaks the rules. Here, the host says cars were disqualified because the tires were too old. It’s basically an enforcement of tire-age rules for safety and fairness.
The Porsche Carrera GT is a very rare, high-performance supercar. The podcast mentions it in connection with how these cars are bought and sold. It’s brought up because it’s an expensive, hard-to-find collector type of car.
A “chump car” is a car raced in a budget endurance series. The goal is usually to keep the car running and finish, not just go as fast as possible. The host is describing the kind of race his friend’s car is doing.
“Lemons” is a type of endurance racing where teams run cheap, imperfect cars. It’s less about perfection and more about surviving the race. The host is talking about racing that kind of event.
“Podium” means you finish in the top three. In racing, that’s the spot where the winners get celebrated. The host says they thought they could get there, but the car kept failing.
“E 30” is a BMW 3 Series from an older generation. People love them for racing and modifications. Here, the speaker is saying their E30 keeps breaking down because the engine isn’t coping.
“Short shift” means you change gears sooner, keeping the engine from spinning as fast. That can help prevent overheating or breaking something when the car is struggling. The host is using it as a survival tactic.
Sebring is a famous race track in Florida. It’s the kind of track that can wear cars out, so finishing the race matters a lot. The host is talking about where the race will be.
The Toyota Hilux is a pickup truck built to handle rough roads. The podcast compares its suspension to what you’d expect when driving in tough conditions. It’s mentioned because it’s known for being sturdy and capable.
The Audi R8 is a high-end supercar from Audi. It’s the kind of car people associate with Audi’s performance reputation, and the host is saying Audi is using that reputation to justify what they’re trying to do next.
The Bugatti Chiron is a flagship hypercar known for its distinctive, rounded front-end styling and extreme performance. The host argues Audi is designing a new car’s front end to visually echo the Chiron—turning rounded shapes into sharper, more “square” elements.
A powertrain is the car’s main mechanical system for making and sending power to the wheels. It’s the engine and the parts connected to it that actually do the work of moving the car.
The Bugatti EB110 is an older Bugatti supercar with a very recognizable shape. The host is saying the rear styling they’re discussing looks similar to that EB110 design.
The Tesla Cybertruck is an electric pickup truck. It has a very unusual, sharp-looking design that stands out a lot. The discussion includes how people talk about its color and appearance.
“Flame surfacing” is a way of describing bodywork that has dramatic, flame-shaped curves meant to catch the light. The host is saying the new design might be moving away from that look. It’s basically about how sculpted and flashy the car’s surfaces are.
The host brings up the Audi TT as an example of an older design style. They’re comparing the shapes and how the body looks like it flows together. It’s about the car’s styling, not the mechanical details.
Person
Tazio
“Tazio” is referring to Tazio Nuvolari, a famous old-school race car driver. The host is using his name to connect the car’s styling to classic racing history. It’s more about inspiration than anything mechanical.
A “dorsal fin” is a fin-like bump or ridge on the body of a vehicle. The host is saying the car’s shape needs something like that to look balanced if you compress the proportions. It’s about the car’s outline and styling.
Car
Bugatti
Bugatti is a luxury supercar brand. Here they’re using it as an example of cars that have a noticeable rear hump behind the driver, often because of how the engine is packaged.
A “bustle” here means a noticeable raised hump on the back of the car. It can be there to fit mechanical parts, but in this discussion they say it can also be just for looks.
The Lamborghini Temerario is a Lamborghini supercar. In this conversation, they’re saying its engine layout doesn’t force the car to have a big rear hump—so the shape is more about looks than fitting the drivetrain.
Formula One is the highest level of race car competition. They’re saying the car’s shape reminds them of modern F1 styling—very aerodynamic and sculpted.
Single-seater means the car is designed for just one driver. They’re comparing the body shape to race cars where the cockpit and bodywork are shaped around one person.
The Rolls-Royce Spectre is a very upscale Rolls-Royce model. The host is comparing the shape and front styling of another car to the Spectre’s look. It’s basically a “this looks similar” design comparison.
A “five cylinder” engine has five pistons working in one engine block. It can make the car feel smoother and punchier than a typical four-cylinder. In this discussion, they’re saying a new Audi TT RS would be great with that kind of engine.
The Audi TT RS is the high-performance version of the Audi TT. It’s the “sporty” model with stronger power and more aggressive tuning than the regular TT. Here, they’re imagining a new TT RS with a special engine setup.
Shared architecture means different cars are built on the same basic “underbody” design. That can make them cheaper to build and easier to share parts across brands. Here, they’re wondering whether Audi would need a new shared platform to make an affordable sports car.
The Volkswagen Golf is a compact car. When people talk about its “architecture,” they mean the basic design underneath—like how the car is laid out. That matters because it influences how the car drives and what parts it can use.
The Audi RS 3 is a high-performance Audi A3. It’s famous for a turbocharged 5-cylinder engine, and here they’re talking about adapting that idea to different car shapes.
The Audi TTS is a sportier version of the Audi TT. The podcast talks about the original TTS and how those cars were made. It comes up because the earlier versions can be different from later ones.
The Mazda MX-5 (Miata) is a small two-seat convertible designed for fun driving. It’s usually light and rear-wheel drive, which helps it feel nimble. The podcast mentions it as a go-to enthusiast choice when comparing cars.
The Rivian R2 is a coming electric SUV/truck from Rivian meant to be smaller and cheaper than their bigger R1 vehicles. The host is basically saying it might drive well even though it uses a more normal suspension setup, and that it could cost under $60,000 for the faster version.
The Rivian R1 is Rivian’s bigger electric vehicle. The host is comparing it to the smaller R2, saying the R1 has a special suspension but may be too large for some people.
The Rivian R1S is Rivian’s bigger SUV in the R1 family. The host talks about how it feels size-wise and also mentions that sales have been weak, with people waiting for the newer R2.
The Rivian R3 is discussed as a future model the host is “waiting for,” with a distinctive styling description. The host compares its look to a “delta” shape and frames it as the next step in Rivian’s lineup after the R2.
This just means the R2 uses a more standard suspension setup. The host is saying it won’t have the R1’s more unusual suspension tech, so they’re curious whether it still rides and handles as nicely.
A turbo engine uses a device that forces more air into the engine. That helps it make power even when you’re at higher altitude where the air is thinner.
Naturally aspirated means the engine pulls air in by itself, without a turbo. At high altitude there’s less oxygen in the air, so NA engines can lose more power than turbo engines.
Car
miata
The Miata is a small, light sports car that feels great when you keep momentum through turns. The host is using it to explain that in twisty roads, technique can outweigh raw horsepower.
Point-to-point is like going from one place to another, usually thinking about speed over a route. In twisty canyon driving, you’re not just racing in a straight line—you’re constantly turning and carrying momentum.
When you drive at high altitude, the air is thinner. That means engines often make less power, so the car may feel slower unless you adjust how you drive.
The Volkswagen Jetta is a compact sedan you can use for everyday driving. The podcast talks about switching from a Jetta to a turbocharged car and noticing a big difference. That usually means the new car felt quicker or drove differently.
The quarter mile is a drag-racing distance (about 402 meters) commonly used to compare acceleration performance. The speaker is arguing that altitude can change quarter-mile results because the engine and traction/launch behavior don’t respond the same way in thinner air.
The BMW 2002 is a classic 1970s-era BMW known for its small-displacement, lightweight, enthusiast-focused character. In this segment it’s used as a reference point for how a low-power car can be more affected by altitude than a higher-power setup.
The Nissan Maxima is a mid-size sedan that can be turned into a track or race car. Here the speaker mentions doing work on the flywheel, clutch, and transmission on a 1996 Maxima race car, illustrating the kinds of drivetrain wear and failures that can happen in motorsport use.
A flywheel stores rotational energy and helps smooth out the engine’s power delivery to the drivetrain. In a manual-car context, it’s closely tied to clutch operation, so replacing or servicing a flywheel often comes up when a clutch or transmission job is needed.
A clutch is the mechanical connection between the engine and the transmission in a manual setup. It lets you disengage power to change gears, and it can wear out quickly under racing-style driving or after drivetrain damage.
The transmission is the gearbox that changes engine speed to match driving conditions. In this segment, it’s mentioned alongside clutch and flywheel work, implying a drivetrain failure or heavy wear event during racing use.
The Cadillac CT4 is a smaller luxury sedan. The podcast mentions the CT4 V Blackwing, which is the more performance-focused version. It’s brought up as a car that’s meant to drive more like a sports sedan.
The Ford Ranger is a midsize pickup truck. The podcast talks about an older version with a manual transmission, and how it drives in a calm, easy way. It’s mentioned as a practical truck that doesn’t feel overly aggressive.
The Mitsubishi Delica is a practical vehicle used for everyday driving and travel. The podcast talks about switching from sports cars to the Delica, meaning the driving experience changes a lot. It’s mentioned because it’s more about comfort and usefulness than pure performance.
EV means electric vehicle. It runs on electricity, and the driving experience can feel different—often quieter and with instant power—so it changes how you think about traveling.
Sport mode is a button or setting that makes the car respond more quickly when you press the gas. It’s meant to make driving feel more energetic and responsive.
Concept
removes the variable or the influence of the car
The host is describing how a faster-feeling car can change your behavior—like pushing to arrive sooner—because the car’s performance invites more aggressive driving. With an EV, they argue the experience is calmer and less motivating to “race” other traffic, so the car’s performance becomes less of a factor in your trip.
The Ferrari Luce is mentioned in the podcast as an idea or design concept. The discussion focuses on the look and features people associate with it. It’s brought up mainly for design inspiration rather than practical ownership details.
The Range Rover is a luxury SUV from Land Rover. It’s made to be comfortable on regular roads but still capable off-road. The podcast brings it up because it’s known for sticking with its established style and formula.
The Toyota RAV4 is a compact SUV meant for everyday use. The podcast says newer versions look more aggressive than before. It’s mentioned because the RAV4 is a good example of that design change.
The Toyota Camry is a common, everyday sedan. The podcast points out that it can look more aggressive and bold than you might expect for a typical Camry. It’s mentioned because the design can make a familiar car feel different.
The Acura NSX is a famous sports car with an engine placed in the middle of the car. The “94 NSX” is the older 1990s version people often talk about for how it drives.
The Volvo 850 T5R is a turbocharged Volvo from the 1990s. It’s considered “quirky” because it’s not a typical sports-car choice, but it still has real performance.
The Nissan R32 Skyline is a classic Japanese performance car people love for its turbocharged, driver-focused character. It’s being suggested as a fun, slightly unusual choice that can still drive well.
The Nissan 300 ZX is a 1990s-era sports car with a reputation for being stylish and fun. They’re debating whether it’s “quirky” enough compared with other choices.
The BMW E36 M3 is an older BMW M3 that many enthusiasts consider one of the most fun versions. It’s rear-wheel drive and is being suggested as a good “driver’s car” option.
The Honda NSX is a sports car made for fast, fun driving. The podcast brings it up as part of a set of performance cars being discussed. It’s mentioned because it’s a recognizable, high-end sports model.
The BMW 5 Series is a mid-size luxury car. The podcast talks about an M5 version from the E39 generation, which is the more performance-oriented version. It comes up because it’s a well-known choice for people who want luxury plus sporty driving.
The Shelby GT 350 is a high-performance version of the Ford Mustang. They’re suggesting it as a great choice if you want something that’s fun to drive.
A Shelby Mustang is a Mustang that’s been made into a higher-performance version by Shelby. The podcast mentions it alongside manual transmission choices, meaning the goal is a more engaging drive. It’s brought up because it’s a popular way to get a classic performance Mustang experience.
Weather stripping is the seal material around doors and windows that helps keep rain and wind out. On older cars, replacing it can get pricey, so it’s a good thing to plan for when buying something used.
Concept
plan z
“Plan Z” is basically their approach to buying a car. They’re saying you should think honestly about what repairs an older car might need versus buying something newer that you’ll keep for a while.
The Suzuki Cappuccino is a small sports car. The podcast talks about it as a fun option people could choose. It’s mentioned because it’s compact and meant to be enjoyable to drive.
Turbocharged engines use a device that pushes extra air into the engine. More air usually means more power, so these cars can feel quicker and more exciting.
The exhaust downpipe is the pipe that comes right after the turbo. Changing it can help the turbo breathe better, which can make the car respond differently and feel stronger.
It means the speed you’re supposed to take a turn at so the tires can keep enough grip. The question is basically: if you’re driving responsibly, how much faster than that would you go in real-world canyon roads?
The Volkswagen Eos is a car that’s designed to feel more special than a standard model, including open-air driving. The podcast says it isn’t as rare or unique as some other options. It’s mentioned because it sits in a more mainstream lane while still offering a distinct style.
These are special brake discs with grooves and/or holes cut into them. The idea is to help the brakes run cooler and shed dust. People debate whether the holes help as much as the grooves, especially for normal driving.
A ventilated brake disc has internal channels that help move heat away. Slots are grooves that help keep the braking surface cleaner and more consistent. The point here is that this combo is often enough for spirited street driving.
Endurance racing is long races where the car has to keep working for hours. Brakes have to handle lots of heat the whole time. The host is using that as evidence that street cars don’t always need the most extreme brake rotor setup.
Brake pads are the replaceable parts that squeeze against the brake disc to create stopping power. Some pads are made to handle higher heat better than others. The host is saying street pads can heat up faster than track pads.
A vented brake disc has built-in channels to help it cool faster. That can reduce the chance of brakes getting too hot during spirited driving. The host is saying you may not need drilled rotors if you already have good cooling design.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car made in the U.S. The podcast talks about it as a car that can be quick but still practical, including having a usable trunk. It comes up in comparisons because it’s often considered a strong all-around sports option.
This refers to a specific generation of the BMW M4 (the F80). It’s a sporty BMW with an enthusiast-focused setup, and the hosts are comparing it to other fast cars.
The Acura CL is a luxury coupe, meaning it’s a two-door car focused on comfort. The podcast mentions it while talking about possible car choices. It comes up because it’s a recognizable older luxury option.
The BMW M8 is BMW’s very fast, luxury-focused performance car. The hosts are comparing it to the Mercedes CL 63 and saying they’d rather have the Mercedes.
This is a very fast Porsche four-door (the Panamera Turbo S). They’re saying that for about $70k you can find used ones, and it’s a practical way to get Porsche performance without a two-door car.
Term
depreciates
Depreciation is how much a car loses value as it gets older. They’re saying AMG cars tend to hold their value better than some competitors.
PDK is Porsche’s special automatic transmission that shifts very fast. The host is saying you can still be happy without it if you just want a smooth, relaxed ride.
The Aston Martin DBS is a luxury sports car designed for long, comfortable drives. The podcast describes it as a great “cruiser,” meaning it’s meant to travel smoothly at speed. It also hints that buying an older one can be a gamble depending on the car’s condition.
The Lamborghini Countach is a famous supercar. The podcast mentions the ongoing cost of owning one, like what it costs month to month. It comes up because it’s an iconic car that can be expensive to keep.
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Tell them you'd love to go to Argentina. They also, now they want to do it here. The car
stay in here. But I would go to Argentina and drive Ruta 40. That would be a fucking sick road
trip. Is that the one that goes across the country? The whole country. Yeah. But you'd want to do that
in an old car. With a support vehicle. Yeah. You want to do an old car. You know the Safari Mustang.
The old Mustang. Right. Like the Thomas Crown affair Safari Mustang. The 6-byte. Yeah. It's not a
6-byte, I don't think. No, not a 6-byte. Like. Wasn't one of them a 6-byte 6? No. I think I'm conflating
two vehicles. Yeah. And the Thomas Crown affair. They're just a lifted GT5 or a KR type thing.
But it was, you know why I'm conflating two cars. Their luggage truck that picks them up at the jet
and follows the Mustang is a Jeep Wrangler 6-byte 6. Oh. Yeah. It's this thing. Yeah,
I know. But I'm conflating another vehicle. Look at Thomas Crown affair Jeep Wrangler.
It's going to be, yeah. See, it's the 6-byte 6 with the trailer. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So that was it.
Yeah. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the motherfucking program. Nice to see you on this Monday. I've
been home in LA for 10 days, which means I can't wait to get out of here. Yeah. You know what I
do? You know, for a while for three or four days, you're like, ah, home. And then you've been here
for like 10. You're like, where am I going? Yeah. Yeah. Concrete and traffic. Where am I going?
Yeah. It's, yeah. It's, uh, it's, it's not just, it's not that it's LA. It's just that it's like,
you know, this kind of lifestyle. Like you want to get home and then you want to get up back on
the road. Like you're the same thing from touring musicians and comedians and stuff like that. You
know. Miss the juice. So leaving tomorrow, going to go to the Pacific Northwest,
drive around with road and track in an M5 touring. They've sent me a photo of it. I think it's orange.
Whoa. Fairly aggressive. It's a thing. Thumbnail orange. Thumbnail orange. But man,
it's been a busy, uh, busy weekend this past weekend. Um, we, uh, we launched tickets are
available for our Detroit live show with Christian James Hand, August 13th. Someone accused,
someone accused our poster of being AI slop. It is not. It was made by a person. Uh, it actually
was made by a person. It was made by the wife of the owner of 248 garage where our, our venue in
Royal Oak, and she is a graphic designer and made it. It's not AI slop. We like to have humans
make things where possible and she didn't charge us anything, which I guess makes it cheaper than
even if we had done it in AI. Maybe use, use, she drank a glass of water. Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, instead of a swimming pool, three gallons, it would have taken whatever
the token. Um, but, uh, yes. And actually in the first 24 hours, the show is two thirds sold
out actually. So if you're in Detroit, uh, in August for the Woodward Dream Cruise or you want to
come to the Woodward Dream Cruise, um, by all means make a, uh, make a point of come to see us
on Thursday, August 13th with Christian James hand. It's going to be a fucking good time,
but, um, don't wait around for tickets, uh, because, uh, they're, you know, they're going.
And, uh, thank you to the, to all of those patrons who bought tickets in the first like hour.
They were anyone who's in Detroit jumped on it. Yeah. But the patrons showed up hard because I
posted on the Patreon first and the patrons fucking, they showed up real quick. So nice to, uh,
to be nice, to be, to be welcomed, to be in your city. And, uh, I can't wait to do that gig.
That's going to be a good fucking time. Um, and, uh, let's see. Oh, this past, uh, Sunday, there
was the, was Sergio's a riffraff car show. Um, actually, Johnny has, has more photos. I took
no photos because I was busy judging. I was being very judgy. There was a judgey too,
Johnny, but I was being very judgy, um, even by his standards, because I was judging the
exotics category. He was driving, judging the daily driver category. Okay. And, uh,
there was also a Radwood category that was being judged by TK Tommy Kendall,
but I had about 25 to 30 cars in the exotics category and the trophies Sergio had made were
big. So ridiculous. And, uh, trying to take it very seriously. And because this was a show,
to generate some funds for a local autism organization, we had, you know, helpers,
young helpers. And, you know, I'm trying to be pretty even-handed with my judging and pretty
fairly kind. You know, I didn't really want to give anything less than like a seven.
It's like a charity show. Yeah. But, but then there's a section on the sheets,
you know, there's a, don't get me wrong. There's a pretty big spread of quality. If I give you a
seven versus a 10, you know what I mean? If a seven is a two from me when we're judging a charity
car show, but like there's also on the sheet, the kids, you know, got to judge and the, the kids
would be like 10 or two. Yeah. Yeah. They were so a bunch of, you know, the spread from first to
eighth place was only like eight points. And that was basically like the spread of what the kids
were, were doing. So, and also my only bit of, when I was being real judgy though, I de-queued,
I insta-de-queued seven cars for having tires that were older than seven years.
You got to get, you got to get to a winner somehow. Right. So you immediately whittled out
you got a whole bunch of modern-ish, you know, exotic cars. There's a bunch of repeats. There's
a bunch of, you know. Was there anything you threw out in that batch that you really liked?
Yes. Yes. There was a manual transmission, LP640. But yeah. Right on. OG tires. Yeah. There was,
yes, there was a 20, I don't know the year, but it was a 997 GT3 RS with a full cage
and a removable steering wheel, pumpkin orange on slicks that were date-coded 2015.
Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. Like, good luck getting home alive. No kidding. Talk about, I mean,
they haven't taken it to the track in a long time. I would hope so. Yeah. I mean, certainly I would
hope so, but there's a lot of ways to die in a car like that, you know. That's the, I was gonna,
I was gonna be mean, but it seems like it's probably a car they shelved nine years ago
after tracking it for a year. And then they went, oh, you know what, I should bring it out. Yeah.
And I didn't, I didn't discuss with the owner why that, but I also, there was a Mercedes,
there was a Mercedes SLS AMG, which is a car that's now 14 years old, that I am 99% sure
still had the tires on it that it was delivered with. And if this car was like a, you know,
museum queen and had like 200 miles on it and just got trailered around to shows, that would
be one thing. But to look at the rest of this car, the rest of this car had a suite of modifications
that can only be described as third owner. And yeah. That's a game of hot potatoes that you
don't want to play. There's like here, you drive on the original tires. It was no good. And I don't
want to, you know, I hate, I don't want to crap too much on, because this was a good car show.
Like the cars that showed up like were cool. Like they were cool. They were all cool. Every
category was really cool in terms of the cars. And it was a fun time. How many cars showed?
80 cars entered. And there's probably three or 400 people. It was the first time, first time we
did it, you know, but Sergio and Kevin Barrett put on, they put on a great show. You know, food
and food and Bev was great. And it was a lovely time. Awesome. Everyone had a good time. Kids had
a great time. But I had to lecture a bunch of people that they were fucking DQed because their
tires, as if anyone needs me to tell you how to tell the age of your tires, you don't come see me.
But like, did you walk up to me like your cars disqualified? Because where was this later?
The owners were not standing next to the cars while I was judging somewhere. I did not, I did
not have to tell anybody to their face. Your car is disqualified for this. They just know they
didn't win. Okay. They just know they didn't win. I also, so that was the heart, but that's
the hard DQ. That was the Insta DQ. There was also a soft DQ, which is where you weren't actually
disqualified. I just gave you a zero in one of the categories. If your car had an Instagram handle
on it, that was the soft. That's the average up. Yeah. I'm not DQing you, but you will not be
placing here. Yeah. So, and because I had my three helpers trailing me around, I was giving lessons
on what is cool and not cool in the world of cars. And believe you me, these kids can read date codes
and they will laugh in your face if you put your Instagram handle on your car.
Oh my God. You are a teacher indeed. I look forward to your college course.
That was great. Here's how cars should look and not look. Don't put your Instagram on your car.
That's really bad. Don't do that. I think that was when I did Scott Omi and Zach Mertens did the
worst mods of the decade. I think Instagram handle was his sixth. Yeah. He was Brian's sixth.
You share this opinion with many wise people. I'm doing that podcast, whatever. I don't know
which show it is. He has a network of his own. It's him making four different shows.
Yeah. They are all pretty distinctly different. I don't know which show I'm on, but it's me and
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They built a temporary amphitheater in Long Beach. It's pretty big. It's 11,000 people
called the dog house. Not for this. No, no, called something stupid.
No, like the FBZ banking memorial amphitheater, but like he was the first thing and they're trying
to see if it goes well. They might build a permanent amphitheater there. Hannah, I think,
astutely pointed out that it seems like they just needed somewhere to store the bleachers from the
pretty much. But fucking nightmare to get it out. They built it. It's in front of the Queen Mary,
a little inside baseball, but it's in front of the Queen Mary by the ocean and it's like where
the parking would be for the Queen Mary. So you can't drive there effectively. You could take
an Uber there or a rideshare, but everyone who drove their own cars there had to park in
downtown Long Beach. Just pull up a map of Long Beach because there's a little inside baseball.
Long Beach, for those who don't know, is where Snoop Dogg is from and where the Long
Beach Grand Prix is and it's not Los Angeles. It's near Los Angeles, but it's not. So Long
Beach is facing south and there's the ocean and if you punch in on where the Grand Prix is a little
bit. So Shoreline Aquatic Park is on the north side of the water there and Shoreline Village
is right down there on the water. And the Grand Prix circuit effectively runs around Shoreline
Drive. Does this little roundabout thing come down here and then over that way. So down on the
water there, there's like a marina and there's a few hotels and there's a bunch of ocean themed
restaurants and it's like pseudo touristy and kind of nice, right? The Queen Mary is across
the water. So it's only like a couple hundred yards by water, but to actually get there by car,
you have to drive across around that bridge, right? The Queen's Highway Bridge. And so there is no
parking at the Queen Mary at all for this 11,000 person concert. There are a bunch of public
lots pre-reserved in downtown Long Beach and then a central shuttle stop with fucking two dozen
big ass coaches that are shuttling people to this fucking thing. Hannah and I are like,
oh hell no. So we just take an Uber there and pre-reserve an Uber for about two-thirds of the
way through the show to pick us up and come home. Turns out it was the right decision because we
read on the internet that it took like two to three hours to get out of this. Yeah, this is a 37
minute walk. It's almost two miles is where you're parking to your destination. Yeah, so either you
walk two miles or you wait, deal with these bustles, but there was only one way in and out of the
amphitheater. So imagine 11,000 people going through a 15 foot wide tunnel and that's it.
Yeah, great. So we got in and got out, but a Snoop Dogg show is really things, especially an
outdoor Snoop Dogg show because not only is weed legal, it's like weed was the most legal I've
ever seen it. Yeah, there's a column. There's a volcano. We had like pretty decent seats. They
were given to Hannah by like a corporate client that she was working for. It was so clearly the
corporate area of the Snoop Dogg show. There was there's a lot of people there and you'd walk
around and you'd go, those folks are definitely like childhood friends with Snoop Dogg. Like
you'd see you'd see like all these kind of like old school like gangster guys or guys who were
clearly rolling six fours in the 90s and like, you know, shooting at people and stuff. And now
they're like the old heads that everyone else is like kind of looking up to those folks around
the sublime types. You know what I mean? You're your white sort of long beach skaters,
surfers, sublime type of style, right? You had all the mixtures of flavors at this show. Sure.
It was pretty fun to see. And then like also the whitest people you've ever seen too.
And like, yeah, you're you're in the corporate box. Yeah. And you're not even the white, but
you're like, look at all these lovely cultures we get to look at. We were not the whitest people.
No, it wasn't a box, but it wasn't like a sky box. It wasn't like that. It was like,
like, the take off area. Yeah, like, yeah, like a railing that just surrounded the same exact
seats, everybody else, whatever. But um, Snoop Dogg on one hand is is fucking so entertaining
and talented. On the other hand, he's kind of a fucking idiot, despite himself. You know what
I mean? Like he still has all this shit. These little brands and like side projects he's doing,
they were all around the area, like an ice cream brand and whatever that branded Dr. Bombay,
which was his. And that was his board Ape NFT was called Dr. Bombay. I remember that. Yeah. And
he tried to make what NFTs were hot. He tried to make Dr. Bombay everything, but then NFTs
totally crashed, but he's like, still trying to do it. How Dr. Bombay foods. Holy moly. Yeah,
still try to do it with the Dr. Bombay. And then he said that he, and then he had,
remember when I went to Coachella and saw a Dre and Snoop and there was the Tupac hologram
that year, 2013. So he did the same three songs at this show in the same order that he did with
the Tupac hologram 13 years ago, except he doesn't have the hologram machine. Instead,
he has like AI slop Tupac on a big screen behind him that he has a full on conversation with AI
Tupac is like, I'm proud of you dog. Like, and they have a back and forth conversation for like
three minutes. Whoa. Like bad AI Tupac. That's weird. Yeah. And then he does the duets, the,
you know, Hail Mary, gangster party and whatever the other fucking in that order.
And two of America's most wanted those are the three duets with Tupac. And he does those in that
order. Same as the fucking Coachella thing, but with this with AI Tupac, really, really bizarre.
And he, and he has this fucking conversation with Tupac where he goes, remember when I said,
you ain't with the Democratic party. You ain't with the Republican party. You I'm with the
motherfucking gangster party. And I'm like, you played Trump's inauguration. The stupidest people
like I am willing to go see Tupac despite that. All right. Excuse me. Go see Snoop Dogg despite
that. He's entertaining enough and a cultural icon enough. I'll fucking give it. And I don't
think he cares about politics. I think they paid him $2 million. And he went, yes, sir. But like,
don't fucking do a whole bit about you're not with a party. Was that just his segue into
ain't nothing but a gangster party? Yes. But like fucking do better. You either you're an
inauguration. It's what's funny is that the number of people backing out of the 250th concert,
because now it's things have happened. And they're like, actually, we don't know if this,
we want to line our brand with this. We're gonna take a step back and look at our financials later.
Right. Yeah. But I'll tell you what, that motherfucker drops gin and juice. You see,
you see in, you know, 11,000 people completely lose their goddamn mind.
Yeah. He was like, then we saw Jay-Z. He did the hits. I went nuts. Everyone went nuts because
you're like, you've listened to these songs forever. Yeah. Yeah. It was very interesting to
see Snoop Dogg in Long Beach. Very iconic. Kind of interesting. You know what's smart about like,
I mean, he was all rappers, a lot of them tend to not be the very animated performers
somewhere. But he was always like a very small steps kind of performer moving around smart,
because you can play the long game. Yeah. Like being like a golfer at 60. But you know,
famously like Madonna pop stars that move and dance like to keep that or Mick Jagger to keep
the engine going at 70, 80, you know, years of age, you got to keep doing all the moves. You got
to be so crazy fit, much harder. And his stage was made of screens. Like it was just a big screen,
essentially, and like a thing he could stand on and then the ground, like that was it.
And he was on stage alone a lot. And this is a big stage and he's a skinny fucking dude.
You know, and he was like, he didn't fill the stage, I think. And Hannah was like,
do you think he's lonely? But he just him like chilling out, vibing and just kind of like doing
this is is like somehow entertaining. Well, because he's been doing it for 40 years.
Like he's just the most effortlessly chill, cool person, which even if he says and does dumb
ass fucking things, you just can't help but be like, yeah, fuck, yes. You're the coolest.
You're the coolest. He is the coolest. Yeah. Even if you objectively do things that I see you do
that are super lame and stupid all the time. I mean, he's like he's always business, but I'm
sure some are hitting. Sure. I'm going to go to his weed dispensary later today. Oh, there's no
problem with that sweat. Shout out to him. my my local dungeon. I was looking up CBD
stuff for my back and I found this product and like at three stores, it was $60. And at that
store, it's like 19 because they're probably like, no one's buying this year. Yeah, we don't know
what we're selling real marijuana here, sir. That was when I went in there when I first started
smoking weed again. And I said, do you have some like weaker weed? They were like, what? I was like,
you know, and he was like, this is a Snoop Dogg store, sir, we don't have weaker weed here.
Yeah, we're going for 100%. That's a good point. If we can do 150%, we will.
We will offer the strongest products imaginable of this fucking place.
Dude, but they're gonna have to fucking either they're gonna have to sort the parking situation
or the real move is if you're going to be seeing shows down there, you cop a room at the Queen
Mary. Well, but like, I mean, what there's so much empty space here, it's obviously used for stuff.
It's not empty. That's full of the containers that are getting loaded on ships and shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't like that. No, that's there. There isn't. I mean,
there's space there, but you we don't get to use it.
Got it. Actually, the way this, you know, because it's a temporary amphitheater, the
what would you call the escape noise, you know, the sound was pretty good if when you were there,
like it was the sound was all right. It wasn't mind blowing, but it was all right.
But you could be like pretty well outside the venue and hear like perfectly clearly. So
the real move is if you could have somebody with if you could get a boat and you just drop anchor
right behind the venue, you're you're in you're in business. You hear the same thing.
And you could walk up, you can walk up to essentially right side stage and be in a public park
outside the thing and you could hear everything perfectly clearly. Wow.
Was it like that amphitheater? Remember we saw Rise Against? It seemed very temporary like that.
Yes, like that. But with the backdrop of a very cool old ocean liner. So it was a vibe for sure.
Yeah. And actually shout out to the TST fan who said hi to me, who was managing the the
the food and bed for the whole venue. The dude was cool as a cucumber, but he was like,
man, we got like our food service permit like today. Like he's like, he's like they were
putting bolts in this motherfucker like six hours ago too. Shout out to him. I don't want that kind
of stress. Yeah. This is the first show at this new venue. Nobody fucking knew anything. Cars.
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Instagram he's coming in on Monday by the way Monday the 15th over the weekend out he dropped
this new velari it looks like a concept someone says that this is the production thing but I don't
I don't think that I mean Brian Scott I have my favorite joke he said did they forget to finish
rendering yeah like is it still he said is it still rendering yeah just really really good
it's uh it's 8-bit for sure it's definitely NES era supercars but it's it's uh it's it shares
the rough powertrain architecture with temerario what's really strange about this is to me is that
Audi have just decided that they're going to position their car above the Lamborghini
rather than below it yeah which is a choice that's a bold move it's a choice without precedent yeah
um I I don't really understand why they think they're going to get away with that
why do you think they think they're going to get away with that I if you're if I was taking a stab
my guess would be that they've had they're they're looking back at the last 20 years and beyond
and they go well our the R8s had such great reviews they were basically the same as the
Lamborghini but you know roomier more comfortable like they did the same job and better in most
regards but they also have the racing pedigree which Lamborghini doesn't have but I still think
it's a huge gamble to try to you know do the Joe Pesci and take one over on Robert DeNiro
and be like I'm in charge now right because even with their racing pedigree nobody sees an Audi
and a Lamborghini next to each other and thinks the Lamborghini is the cheaper car
or has less presence or you know less brand cash yeah so I don't know why they're doing it I think
I think they're trying to do a couple of things one now that Audi is in Formula One
they need to make a tighter connection you know they need some kind of car that
everybody doesn't immediately think is just a cheaper version of a Lamborghini
I also think they're intentionally making it look like a Bugatti I think they're trying to
position this car as mini Bugatti rather than mini Lamborghini which is a move but like move
but that front grille that this whole front end to me is if you squared off the round-ish the
round bits of a chiron and made them into squares yep you end up with this I think that's kind of
but I think it's far less interesting to look at I think I don't think it's good I just think
it's what they're what they're kind of going for yeah like tiny tiny rectangle mouth same as like
you know the the horseshoe kind of thing you have in the Bugatti that's a good theory except for the
powertrain problem right right power train with the Temerario then you can't go but it's like a
Bugatti but no no no only a Bugatti is like a Bugatti right but because it's more limited
production than Temerario and because it makes some marginal amount more power than Temerario
and because it has the same kind of basic silhouette at least in concept as a Bugatti
I think they want us to make that link for them I think that's a good theory and it's I mean you
did make that link I did this yeah the whole back quarter here it's kind of EB110 sure you know in
its simplicity and that's not really a compliment like I feel like this is just open and empty
I also need to see one in a color in order for it to be a little less Cybertruck
yeah I mean it's like a sand gray and I want to see it in person because this
like right now this looks like it looks like the back half of the car is 80 feet long
and the front half is not but like how does the door open exactly
and you know but I mean I assume it opens conventionally because it's going to be
sort of like Temerario in that regard but
nothing about what I see here or the fact that it has more power than the Lamborghini
to me is is more exotic I agree nothing about it it looks less expensive to design and manufacture
it's a lot less sexy looking I guess is the word that jumps to mind
and you know just too restrained too plain too plain really yeah they didn't really like go for it
it's like it it's funny that it's now this might be announcing a change in their overall design
language maybe they're doing that because this a lot of the Audis now are like pretty angular
there's a lot of stuff going on and this is like almost that they forgot to add half the parts
no more flame surfacing so maybe they're going back to you know TT style where it's like
it looks like almost it was made car from one piece of metal yeah I think it looks like a TT
till a TT pull up though that I think if you put this next to a TT it's that those are all curves
they are like no straight lines but I think when I looked at at that car from above it seemed like
the whole thing was molded out of one piece of metal sure and this like this whole roof
into the whole back looks like I mean other than the lines you can see but it's just
very much like sculpture yeah yeah it doesn't I mean I yeah they're trying to do it
an auto union thing right here's the top here's Tazio
new velari you know driving an auto union car well now the proportions when I'm looking at this old
car do look like the new one right huge ass yeah they're but but that style it it needs to kind of
be narrower at the top it needs to have a sort of dorsal fin to to work when you squish it down
from the top and it no longer has that sort of pointy roof I think it stops stops working so
successful I agree because I think like the the eventador had that a bit which I like the top view
is not my favorite of the event or because it's so wide and so flat and this the new this new thing
kind of reminds me of that well and an auto both auto unions and Bugatti's have that big
bustle in behind the driver because they had enormous engines because we know this uses a
temerario powertrain it doesn't require that big bustle it's just an aesthetic choice it's not a
necessity to house a specialty powertrain yeah when I was a kid I wanted to get a size 12 shoe
and my mom was like you do you wear an eight put that back but I was like no but basketball players
have big shoes on big shoes yeah I did do that she should have let you try it she should be like
you can have a 12 shoe but these are the only shoes you get for six months call your call your
ass out on crazy about that shit dude yeah yeah so look that's what I mean I see yeah see the
history of clarity photo from the rear that that is why that looks so good it's got this torpedo
which looks like the current f1 car right absolutely yeah and they did not do that here
because also single-seater both the history of clarity the formula one the current formula one
cars are like pretty round and there's lots of molding happening and I mean just look at the
profile of their car like it's pretty flat yeah so it I'm not sold yet I'd be I would
truly be more stoked if they said it's a new r8 you know because Temera the Temerario I fucking
drove for P Cody by the way did I say that I already say this that we're getting one in a
couple weeks okay we're getting one to try and it's probably the one Johnny was driving this past
weekend the green one but they're fucking cool as shit to drive I mean I can't wait for you to
try it because it's it's a neat car to drive I don't think they like look amazing to me I think
I think it's possible that when the more aggressive ones come down the line that it might
tickle my fancy aesthetically a little better but I love how it drives I love how this but if they
how it is inside to to use but if they but they're expensive the one we'd had
at P Cody started with a five wow a five and like it had a bunch of shit on it but still
if there was an Audi based on that architecture that came out that started it even if it was
275 which would be a ton for an Audi wherever whatever the top was that the last car left off
that could be the bottom it would still be two thirds the price of the Lambo now we're fucking
talking but they're going the other way I'm wondering if they couldn't make that deal like well either
Lambo wouldn't do it with Emma vice versa or they go we're in F1 now we can't have the cheaper car
sure I don't know there's so many so many things that happen in the meetings that you know we don't
get invited to sure this what's really funny this side angle this 90 degree side profile we're looking
at right now it almost looks like if you took a Rolls Royce specter absolutely and just move the
whole cab forward it does right yeah the same thought same lights and the in the back is a
little bit of that jaguar actually is better than that jaguar concept if you move the windshield
back up a foot in this car you've got a Rolls Royce specter yeah funny yeah it's better here but
I don't know I saw I saw the video the one that rolled out at that unveiling wherever it was
monaco or something like that and it just looks weird from the front looks really flat really
flat-faced yeah all right we'll have to see what the production version looks like but I I'm
I'm not sold on either how it looks or their positioning of it yet unless they're coming
out with a fucking new TT that's going to be a hundred grand you know and it'll be have the five
cylinder and just rip you know that would be fab if there was a new TT RS
that had the five cylinder on RS three architecture but it like looked great I had baseball stitching
how cool that took some of that design language but into TT land maybe I don't know I'm not really
sure but like Audi it would be great if they had the TT RS kicked ass it did kicked ass
it would be a shame for them to not have an affordable sports car reason I know that's still
if it was 100 still expensive but reasonably affordable sports car potentially attainable
sports car by somebody I wonder you know because so many of their SUVs obviously share architecture
with Volkswagen's and everything else so would they need to make a new platform that's shared across
three or four or five brands that would have that layout you know like a two plus two with a big
engine compartment in the front for a five cylinder like I wonder like could they build it on the RS
three or no I was thinking more yeah it's that's the the golf architecture like how you do it on
that it would be hall decks it would be RS three underneath you know shortened
underneath the two seat roadster and coupe that just like looked us all right I think it's a cool
idea as well I don't know if it's possible to like take the the sedan architecture and go
oh they did it before that's how they did the last one what the last the original
tts were built we're all like that oh I don't fucking go at golf architecture just depends on
if manufacturing has changed I don't know or they they could do an RS three cab on the a three cab
an RS three cab would be a good time what if you took the s five an RS five but then so take those
hard points but make it look like a TT maybe that would work it would be big I know it would be
that's a bigger car yeah I think the wheelbase of a golf and the wheelbase of a TT are pretty
close the wheelbase of an s five would be much bigger because you you're talking about having
a backseat I don't give a fuck about a backseat a TT wheelbase 97 inches yeah that's very small
yeah I think it's like the wheelbase of like a three-door golf it might not even be a five-door
golf do they have different wheelbases I don't even fucking know current current golf hatchback
is 103 inch wheelbase yeah way bigger yes you'd have to cut see Audi so take a Miata
partnership Miata and Mazda sorry Mazda and Audi together with a five cylinder turbo
like in Germany join forces to make the ultimate five cylinder the Audi axis
Audi zero
Mitsubishi would just would sue them imagine they're defending the rights to zero
yeah I mean they probably do right yeah they probably do uh fucking hell
um I have you noticed by the way that there are a shitload of new electrify americas being
opened all over the city I've really there's a lot I've not noticed I've been driving around and
I drive a gas car like an American yeah there's there was two new ones in Santa Barbara there's
a bunch of fucking cool um oh someone asked have you seen the config the R2 configurator is up
I haven't seen it but because I'm friends with a guy named Tim Whitcomb I know everything there
is to know about the Rivian R2 all right yeah I forgot that he was price shopping before the
configurator and now the configurator is up that's oh my god yeah he's he's in I did see it
like different my memory the R2 the R2 seems like a really nice car to me I mean my only real beef
with the R1 range is that they're bigger than I need right and that the the s drives like a car
with a cut wheelbase because it's a car with a fucking cut wheelbase how about that how about
you want to shorten that golf up oh I could yeah I'll cut a golf that's fine
you're waiting for the R3 right that's what you like that's the one that looks like a delta
to growl that's that that's gonna be the shit um but I think I think this five seat R2 a lot of
would be good for a lot of people I can't wait to drive it um you know it has conventional
suspension it doesn't have that magical suspension that the R1's got so it'll be interesting to see
if they can make it you know ride and handle like the like the other one but the price is uh is
decent under 60k uh for the R2 performance and it certainly uh is an attractive looking thing
I imagine it uh if it's built and you know feels like the other car I I I don't think
they're in their concepts when they showed the static versions or whatever the prototype the
interior was almost identical to the R1 just like a little smaller that's good but like the
materials and fit and finish were the same but I I don't know if they'll be exactly the same in this
one but I'm excited to drive it looks nice yeah um I was looking at their sales figures to see what
but it obviously man it must their sales figures must be the toilet nobody's buying an R1 right now
everybody's waiting for these yeah like uh R1S it's about 2000 a month in 2026 yeah they peaked in
23 they had like 3500 a month yeah around there it oscillates a lot
they are they doing you know with the incentives and then yeah and then fucking that um but uh
I'm stoked for the R2 that should be cool should we go to the people yeah let's do that let's go to
the people and we will answer their questions this show when will this show go up Zach uh
Thursday this is Thursday show right yeah so I've got to yeah I'll be where will I be on
Thursday and Thursday no I know but Tuesday and Wednesday I'll be in Portland Portland
International Raceway Wednesday Thursday's a long drive day Thursday we're driving from
Portland to the Pacific Ocean and then to Mount Rainier it's a big one but it's gonna be
fucking the prettiest drive ever um all right the people over at Patreon
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canyon watches I just sent an email to our friends at tactile turn pens I would like to do
this tactile turn pen which I got as a demo from them I've been carrying around for like three
months and I fucking love it nice this is the side the side click in brass so it's got the patina
but it's just the right size the right weight perfect to carry around uh with my notebook
in my uh in my man purse as I'm traveling and I want to do one with our logo on it that
the new folks can buy that's all I'm saying uh everything this computer says how do I identify
the undercover cops in New York City I saw a police odyssey in New York City the other day and
only noticed because the lights were on fucking don't do undercover cars have gotten real sneaky
now with like shrinking led lights I'll see them around especially in New York or when we've been
to Atlanta like you know I don't know here like I feel like most of the cop cars are just cop cars
but there's probably some undercover ones but they just they can hide the lights anywhere like in the
tail light now so yeah I don't know whatever you're up to don't do that I got you know pulled over
and arrested by a fake taxi that was a cop car it was a full yellow you know caprice or whatever
yellow cab and uh and I got a fucking arrested by them so I don't have a good way to identify those
those cops they got me pretty good um yeah one crime at a time though one crime at a time you
will be just fine given to flywheel very good I went from a 997 Carrera to a 992 T I really
enjoy the mid range that the turbo engine gives uh at elevation it really shines at 5 000 feet
the NA car may have lost 15 to 20 percent of its sea level power when testing in the canyons do you
notice the extra power from turbo cars how does that potentially impact your review of NA cars
so most of the naturally aspirated cars that we're still driving today are quite powerful
you know and and and in the canyons most of the time you're not I'm not on the floorboard
anyway so sure if there's a car that's like a 300 horsepower car like a 997
which I haven't driven up there in a very long time but it's going to have less power for sure
but you realize that even with less power you could still go fucking really fast you're not
racing you're not it doesn't really make a difference now when you start to get
17000 feet like in utah and stuff and a car that has average power at sea level
starts to really drag ass 5000 feet I don't think it's lost 20 percent of its power
I think it's more like 10 15 percent for for many cars and these are powerful cars um
the turbo cars you lose less for sure we're very rarely doing back-to-back comparison
tests with an NA car and a turbo car so it's not like you notice the extra power of one versus
another it's just this is this car and this is that car also if you live at altitude you're aware
of this issue so if you were shopping for a car I think I think the person who's shopping does the
consideration versus if we you know if I'm driving up there in the canyon I don't live up there
so I don't think about it as much my car is naturally aspirated and it is so fast
that I can't use full throttle in places that there are other cars where I can't use full throttle
so my car's NA and has 200 less horsepower than yours like I don't know the canyons it's like
driving a miata it's momentum so you're just slalming whatever you know
you're just working through the corners that's not a lot of point-to-point right do I notice if
I drop two gears and try to like you know hammer it down sure and then I just move on with life
this doesn't really matter unless I live at altitude when I lived in Colorado
when I went from owning a Jetta to a turbocharged Subaru there's a huge difference because I was
going from 5,000 feet to 9 or 10,000 a lot and so as I got up there when I'm passing trucks it
suddenly was safer to do that yeah when I when I have driven on a couple of occasions internal
combustion engine cars up pikes peak for instance not racing just just for funsies we drove the
naturally aspirated SRT Jeep up pikes peak on that rally North America thing and that was a you
know big 392 naturally aspirated that motherfucker dragged ass up there I bet that thing wasn't
making 200 horsepower in the top of the mountain that's 14,000 feet though isn't it yeah it is
right that's up up 5,000 yes your car if you were timing laps if it's a racetrack at 5,000 feet and
you actually were timing compared your performance in the quarter mile and Denver compared to your
performance in the quarter mile in LA you would see a difference in the canyons where you're really
not full throttle it's like you Zach said momentum it doesn't make that big of a difference unless
you've got I mean if you went up there with a BMW 2002 sure you know if you're only had 80 or 90
horsepower to begin with right you know it's a different story queer shift and gears just did the
flywheel clutch and transmission on my 96 maxima race car after the teammate blew it up
finding bearings and sink rows was so hopeless I actually cried what is the hardest part you've
had to track down fucking dude shit for the pow an obscure JDM car that's not a skyline
there is no marketplace for this shit in America so like finding the littlest garbage for this
dumb little car is so fucking hard it's so there's been a few parts where it's like
you're telling me I can't get you know an air filter like you you're telling me I can't get
bushings you're telling me I can't get you know the most basic shit for this little fucking car
and it's like you know I could probably total this car pretty easily right yeah
it's insurance company can't find it they're like we're not flying this thing on a you know on a
plane from uh from Japan uh there was dude there's there was some stuff for Lamborghini
where uh oh for my coontosh where you know Donnie
at this point you know motivations are possibly in question but but Donnie had you know had to go
to Italy to to source you know parts you know to be there physically and come back with a fucking
distributor or something for a coontosh um so whether or not that was I think he liked going
whether or not that was medically to I wasn't buying his plane ticket yeah to be fair but like
you know yeah in hindsight unclear in the age of the iphone someone can say is this the part you
need and you could say yes or no open wide open throttle dds says I saw gumball 3000 roll through
houston yesterday which I assume is the pinnacle of rally life is there a hierarchy of rallies
as much as it pains me to say so I I have to agree that gumball is probably
the gold standard of silly lifestyle rallies of course yeah I mean it made I don't it wasn't first
but it was the most famous and in our our age of you know growing up with the the early internet
you know the videos went viral we all saw the mr 3000 video like I watched them over and over and
over again of course yeah it is it is the gold standard for a reason yeah uh you know it's these
those things are supposed to be extravagant and I think that one manages to you know year after
year just be the most extravagant um I forgot they were still happening I could I yeah that's
shocking I I don't know and if it went away for a decade and came in just got brought
back not so do they still been doing it I think they've been doing it all right there might have
not been a covid one or something but but it's been it's been going all right yeah I you know
there's people that are really into it I it's I don't know if they've if they've evolved the event
over years I mean I know that um it it it's a lot of distance like it's just these these huge
enormous halls of distance that don't interest me in least it's it's a style of an event and I
think it's not our type of event but I also understand why it is attractive to people like I
watched all this stuff when I was like 20 yeah and I thought it was cool because it was new and
and it was it was exciting cars going fast which is what I imagine I'd want to do if I had those
cars sure and now having driven lots of stuff in different places I'd rather go do a stage rally
you know on a closed course for a day yeah or for four days than to do this kind of stuff plus the
legal difficulties and all the other things but for some people you know this is like the perfect
intersection of their lifestyle and all the interest yeah when I was 27 this was the coolest
thing ever now like the day I did my first real race where I was in a race car or so close to
other people yeah that were doing the same thing all the same fucking mindset I was like oh that
shit is so fucking dumb but if you're if you love bottle service and you love hypercars yeah
and cocaine like and driving really hungover and I mean if I mean doing like eight hours as hungover
as you've ever been in your life yeah you went to bed at three fuck got up at 65 days in a row
dude imagine trying to do that at our age there's people older than us doing this I know there's
people in their like 60s doing this they probably have fucking IVs in their rooms and shit yeah
with just saline and coke they probably do yeah you know we know like uh you know Bert would talk
about the the hydration person that would come to their hotel room after like a party night before
they're doing a show yeah of course they'll have that yeah the mat the it's like spring break
level partying but at age 50 60 the kind of hangovers that I get now I couldn't
fucking do any of that that's nuts
and you kind of look like a dick bag I mean it's it's I feel like you know to people that know
better you look like such a dick bag I looked like such a dick bag back in the day I'm doing the uh
well because you were there for black magic yeah yeah it's all silly but stuff yeah but at the
at that age bracket and you don't know better you think it's fucking cool yeah
I don't even know if there was a question in there the existence of the hierarchy yes the top
that's the top for sure uh cruised along at half speed then money shifted gears
it's very very good um that's a rise against references well um I have a ct4 v black wing
and an old five speed forward ranger I enjoy the lazy and patient driving forward sometimes
more than the fast caddy do you notice the same things moving from sports cars to the delica or
pow 100 percent when you drive a car that cannot go fast where like being aggressive is no longer
an option your mindset changes yeah you go I even try yeah you just go I'll just be here
I'll just be in the right lane and you find that unless the car is like desperately slow
the amount of time it takes you to get places is basically the same it's like being in a rowboat
and trying to go really fast you're gonna get real tired you're not gonna go that fast it
displaces too much water you just go I'm just gonna chill and by the way same thing same exact
thing if you're road tripping an ev same shit it's a little faster you know you the pow is like
really like 65 is about all the power's got but fucking three years and 55 horsepower but when I drove
across across most of the country in the tycon you know I'm in a Porsche um feels like a Porsche
steering wheels on the Porsche wheel if I fucking smash the throttle even though I have the slow one
still pretty fast you know has a sport mode and I four days at 74 miles an hour sure this is just
being passed by trucks I'm on my own I'm at my own pace my own journey I'm not trying to get
there faster than this guy my plan says this is how long it'll take and whatever anyone's doing
around me this is what I'm doing I think it kind of removes the variable or the influence of the car
like if you're in a fast car if I'm in a fast car then I keep going well when do I get to
you know taste what this car offers right that like that's what it's for and maybe I'll drive
more aggressively because I want to hear it or I want to feel the power or whatever like it puts
me in the mood but with the EV you go none of that really matters you know if it has a thousand
words like it's quiet it calms you down so like all right how do I want to travel down this road
today like what mood am I in yeah yeah uh good question though she likes a choke to get started
says um you you see you frequently say at the end of the show that you save the unanswered
questions for the next show do you really do this uh yeah most of the time we do a
little copy paste there are times I admit where we just don't bring them over or I didn't like
save them in the page and then we just move on with the week that doesn't mean every question
gets to the show I mean they're exact does there is a filtration process not I mean we we do our best
to answer all the questions and like you got a better chance than not most of the time if you've
got a legit question of like getting it on the show like Zach doesn't filter that much but I don't
but if it's today someone asked a question that we literally answered on the show last week right
so I just wrote to them hey we did that or if it's a question that is so specific that only you
will listen to it right truly it's like you know what hotdog stand should I go to in my town that
we've never been to I'm like yeah do tour guide questions for sure to get get deleted red race
suit apparatus uh do you see the simple and smooth designs of the 90s coming back or will we have
hard lines and squinty cars for the foreseeable future well it's all sick you cyclical right I
don't think we'll get as like bubbly as the 90s but I mean dude I think I think the Ferrari luches
in mood board features a lot of early 1990s alfa Romeo and pin and farina designs and then they
threw that board in the trash no no like just not shit for ferrari's like alpha pinning for other
cars designs for other cars like like we talked about that alfa male sz which is a weird cam back
kind of thing yeah that you could sort of overlay the sort of floating roof yeah I mean lose you
know lucid to their credit like they're pretty round and smooth there are companies doing it
Range Rover still sticking to their guns which I think those cars look so good to the next like
anything from BMW one of the things designers talk about a lot is tension yeah and and those hard
lines do create attention that a lot of like bubbly 90s lines just don't have and so yeah I
also think that there's been a lean a lot of companies have edged towards more aggressive
looks the RAV4 is a good example Toyota like people have clearly drawn to some sort of like
intimidating aggressive shape even if the car is a Camry and I think that I don't think we've
seen that run its course quite yet like the Subaru's keep getting just more there's just more
more and more tension more lines everywhere yeah but I hope like the Audi's a little smoother
that Jaguar concept was very smooth that's very smooth I mean the F type in general was like
such a classic good looking shape with only a few lines on it that's what I'd prefer but
I don't know I don't think we've gotten to the bottom of the well yet
goal yellow says thinking about plan zing a sports car with a friend we're currently between
oh we currently have between us a 94 NSX a 992.1 Carrera S a 1988 sob 9000 turbo and a 1995
Volvo 850 T5R interesting what for $50,000 or less should we consider for quirky and
interesting but still keeping driving dynamics front of mind shortlist includes an R32 Skyline
E36 M3 and a mid 90s 300 ZX but open to other suggestions no American cars I wouldn't mind
because he I wouldn't mind but he's not into them no convertibles and no trucks okay well that's a
lot to work with there okay nothing American easy to eliminate that $50,000 bunch of money
can get you a very interesting experience my shortlist I mean I would skyline would be on the
list you've already got some dope stuff right your Porsche is covered your NSX is covered
matter of fact I think the presence of an NSX would eliminate the 300 ZX I don't find that car
to be particularly quirky yeah if you will being having hard to work on yeah um okay I would say
if you could find a great the R53 Mini Cooper John Cooper works collectible it'll be way less
than 50 grand but it's quirky and fun and awesome I agree that's a good one and that's it'd be a nice
front wheel drive addition in a smaller car yeah which is cool what I was gonna say maybe an E39
M5 I don't know if how new they want to go I just feel like they're missed they have a
lot of turbocharged stuff they don't have anything that's just front engine rear drive traditional
right I mean E36 would do that it would I think I mean as would sort of the skyline yeah that's
true you could also go like E90 not to lean on BMW too hard but I just want to get in here because
it's all like turbocharged turbocharged euro stuff E90 M3 could be very fun also like
you know you could get a like a pretty lightly used Supra like a like a newer a newer car that's
you can get a you could get a the manual transmission gr super probably you would
get a Shelby GT 350 yeah you should do that so here's the thing with with a plan z if you're
gonna get an old car you need to be real straightforward about what level of particular
maintenance are we you know if the if we have to redo the weather stripping for instance on a 90s
car and we find out that's $6,000 are we doing it so another you know when when spike and those
guys do a plan z they're buying either a brand new car that they're going to keep for three to
nine months and then just flip that car is not going to be maintenance or they're buying a car
that's like fresh off the restoration and that car is not going to be maintenance or they're
buying a car that's like perfect perfect perfect and it but it might and it might break but it
probably isn't going to have any like huge needs so like the cars that they buy aren't cars that
could potentially have like major service items come up so if it's going to be a car like that
you should just be really clear about to what degree are we collectively going to service this
car to what level of obsessiveness are we going to get are we going to get it all changes every
2,000 miles or every 10,000 miles are we going to get blah blah blah so yeah that's important but
like dude you have so many quirky shit up here already what about something that's like well the
sky no the skyline would cover that man the skyline is really where my head keeps going back to you
or like you could each get your own fucking Suzuki cappuccino and you could get any you
could get all manner of evo right which are so fun and interesting and definitely would stand out
in your collection despite being turbocharged oh yeah i do evo five or six stop find yourself
a stock evo nine and do like the the exhaust downpipe tune and then leave the rest alone
and have like a 384 and horsepower evo that'll just drive beautifully that'd be a good time yeah
yeah pts angela white says
if if you were theoretically to take a sporting but responsible drive in a capable car in the
canyons how much above the recommended speed for a corner would you be going i think this
is a very good question because it always depends on the conditions because we have come around
corners or been approaching corners where there was clearly a like small landslide the day before
and the corner is covered in gravel and we go under the speed limit probably depending on the side
and it depends on the size of the slide the depth of the dirt like you can if you can see tarmac
through it you go okay my tires contacting the tarmac but there's also times where you go oh that
that dirt is completely covering the tarmac that's gonna be slippery as hell so i also don't want
to answer this question because it could be incriminating no but uh i think you have to be
careful i mean for instance i the road the the speed limit doesn't change on like sections of
moholland highway just because the road gets like super tight and technical for that section so
you go well i'm i'm going 10 over here but i'm going 30 over in in that area
i would say that like in a in the angeles forest in a good car
one could one could average 60 miles an hour average and that you know your your
some places the speed limits 45 some places the speed limits 55
if you're averaging 60 you're obviously gonna do quicker than i allegedly i once got
from nukem's ranch to the shell station at the bottom of angeles crest
in a time which would be a average of 74 which is as far as i know the quickest i've ever done it
but like yeah it's it's like 50 to 80 in the open sweepers and it's 30 to 50 in the tighter sections
pretty much steven mesler what car categories in general do better on bat versus cars and bids or
is it luck of the draw certainly like like exotics and shit the flip market all that is better on
bring a trailer classic american cars and classic european cars are better on bring a trailer
japanese tuner cars are better on cars and bids typically modified cars are better on cars and
bids cheaper cars are better on cars and bids other cars are kind of like german shit yeah
10 year old stuff in general seems like it's better on cars and bids yeah other stuff it
could be a wash yeah i happen to like the interface of cars and bids like their software i like
better than the bat software so i like using it as a seller i prefer that platform but bat
still has a bigger audience man catillac sima ron burgundy uh most underrated food cities
us and otherwise i mean i don't know if i've ever been anywhere that was
where it had good food and nobody talked about it right you know like like i've been a lot of places
where i'm like has nobody fucking moved here that knew how to cook you know like that's crazy
like that there's cities in america we're like nobody has figured out like yo no one like here's
the thing why is nobody from indianapolis that knows how to cook taken one trip to la or new york
eaten any number of the delicious things that we make here that are affordable and just
flagrantly gone home and copied that shit like there no one's copied egg slot nobody's copied kogi
nobody's copied this shit that's like fucking it brain damage easy to copy you could reverse
engineer a kogi taco in five fucking seconds and sell that shit in your city and be rich
i wonder but i wonder if uh they've noticed that people like if there's not a people drawn
to korean barbecue would they want a combination korean barbecue others you know other stuff i
or like would they be like huh that's weird whereas i think like austin obviously it's a much more
bustling metropolis sort of thing like i've had amazing food there that was definitely
strange combinations of different cuisines slamed together you don't necessarily have to
do strange combinations of things the kogi is the example that's the easiest to do an easiest
to replicate we're talking about korean tacos but like there's fucking that place bombe frankie
where they take fucking chicken cartica masala and put that shit in a burrito this ain't rocket
science guys like but no and like why has nobody that knows how to make a fucking cheese steak
ever left philadelphia for anywhere else and set up business like crazy that the i mean i feel like
cheese steaks are available in other places not good one popularity has gone down not good ones but
like i don't know i just feel like people could do that and make and earn a living like it's not
rocket science but like you go these places like even now how have you you've never heard of this
you're fucking talking about the internet is the same here you don't see that shit people move one
direction crazy um she put wait okay she put her volvo on my pole like a star
eños and zinger succeeded whereas sony and apple failed which non-car company do you want to see
try to build one next i think apple threw in the towel which was really smart of them i don't think
they failed i think they stopped well shy of where sony got to i don't know what
happened with sony i know their ads were weird but like honda bailed oh they built okay hard to
train bail out of it um which they also tried to name their car afila which is heinous really bad
yeah i mean and eños yes zinger was never not a car company if you're talking about
divergent 3d that's a separate company it's also you know zinger sells 2000000 dollar car that
you know 10 of them a year it's not whereas i think sony and apple were going after the camry market
right in eos it's not as exclusive or unique as zinger but it's like you had product market fit
had already been developed for you like oh everyone's buying discoveries they love them they're going
away or defenders rather so how can we just make those and it also has the support of a giant
company above it i mean i i don't really want to see non car companies build cars it's like i don't
i'm i'm not i'm not like you know we really could use a sony car i don't i don't i'm not i don't
think that it's not like we need that i think this goes to the question we've answered before about
what watch company would you want to see build a car so it's a company that pays a lot of attention
to think attributes you think would be good in a car you know precision and the clickiness and
the way things the feels oster the oster model 10 buzzer that i have extremely mechanical blenders
and blenders and shit that lasts for like 80 years yeah my buzzer will outlast me
i'll have to bequeath it to somebody maybe it could be you they could they could make the
competitor to byd i think right truly yeah uh i i like big black calipers okay where do you stand
on slotted drilled and slotted and drilled rotors in the context of a daily and weekend canyon car
i think a lot of race teams have proven that solid steel brakes will work for endurance racing so
if you're just doing if it's a daily car in a weekend canyon car you probably don't need
ventilated slotted discs i to my understanding and i'm not an engineer slotted provides effective
venting if you're gonna if you want to run a day an everyday brake pad which will get hotter faster
than a track pad but that will survive like weekends the vented rotor with the with the slots
will help keep those a little cooler it has been my understanding from what i've heard from other
people is that drilled holes through your rotor are less effective than slots and are less effective
than the vented uh sandwich design so like i wouldn't actively go buy a set of drilled
rotors for my car i would not for my weekend or camp canyon car for my daily which i haven't and like
if i was going to build a track car i would just do more research about it because like you
i'm not an engineer um i think i've seen you see success with both there's probably a reason that
a lot of brembos are come drilled i mean it does help evacuate heat but for a daily you know the
daily it's a daily yeah you know unless they're warping super easily because the metal is really
cheap and shitty i mean that's a different story when that does happen but yeah uh silence of the
lambo i always wanted the same model uh reference watch uh the omega c master from the james from
james bond goldeneye are there any other movie watches to consider buying to actually wear every
day well james bond's been wearing all like uh omega c masters for a very long time if you go back
to like shawn connery era he wore uh rolex samaritans and then omega got that contract and
they never went back so you could certainly wear a samaritans or a omega c master every single day
other movie i mean movie watches there's a thing about movie watches unless you're like role playing
the character so it's not a great way to choose your watch because a lot of like it's not it's a
different person who's wearing that watch on a screen it's not you may not fit your lifestyle or
something you know yeah but i think i mean that also would just dissolve how marketing works in
general like we all we all see a hero doing something we're like oh you want a piece of the hero
you want a piece of the hero you want to see yourself a bit of yourself in the hero i think if
you like the watch and you like the movie that's what matters but uh i don't know if they're investment
great or not that you could not usually no not usually uh things that are designed
to be collectible often aren't um but if you're like a bond guy and you want to go
c master and leave out leave out your bond there's a collab fucking one for every generation there
is i just found the webpage every movie that daniel craig has done has a omega for it or maybe two
he wants the golden eye oh right he wants to go back to pierce bras and fucking 96 what's funny i
just was thinking you know back in the day they have like the laser watch that shon connery had
or something that could like cut them out of jail and knowing what we know now about battery
density there's no way that that power source would work i think it was made up is what i'm saying
two in the frozen berry one in the mahogany metallic best gt car for road trips under
70 000 decent auto gearbox good trunk space not a corvette
mercedes c63 coupe or a uh a bmw uh f80 m4 maybe with a stick cl rdr dcd dcd get a cl 63
cl oh cl 63 that's a real comfy machine hell yeah uh i mean you could probably find a cheap m8
i don't love those cars um i'd rather have the cl i'd rather have the cl than an m8 but you're
not wrong about the m8 uh that would be good uh rs 5 also fantastic rs 5 70k gets you a bunch of
used panamera turbo s now it's a sedan it's not a quote gt but yeah but then you can bring more
people on your tour mm-hmm those were just the mercedes i mean nothing depreciates like a
fucking amg car so you get a lot a lot for your money with one of those i wonder if you can get
a rolls royce yet for 70 grand like phantom yeah not a good one yeah it'll be pretty scruffy oh
and probably gonna get a gt i mean you i don't it won't be a current gen but you could get like a
13 for 2013 1415 betley gt and if you're not trying to be super super dynamic with it
and you don't need that dc t the pdk gearbox you're okay with like a slush box that'll be a
extremely good cruiser dbs you know older dbs sure you want to roll a dice i'm one of those
but i didn't want to suggest an old astin yeah because that's rarely good advice
70k i mean we'll get you a cayman gts that's a great car which is a great car with a pdk
two trunks you know very very comfy uh i like hotdog says what holy grail piece is missing
from each of our themed bathrooms might meet you my two themed bathrooms the dem i mean the
demolition man one there's there's i can't afford it i wish the seashells were self-cleaning
because i have to clean them off every time it's like it kind of defeats the purpose
that's funny the real seashells um ceramic doesn't smell doesn't hold smells
uh what is the holy grail piece i tried to get it and couldn't get it was the machine
that prints the swear words the fine the fines and the swear words and that would have been the
fucking clutchest thing but it was like 20 000 and that's just that's so dumb um hannah really
wants to fit she wants to get another one of those weiner mobiles and put it inside the bathroom
which you're out of space which is not happening she's discussed addition on the house to make
that bathroom bigger so that it could fit more hotdog shit which is crazy so yeah uh so vote to
increase taxes listen we don't have kids man i gotta do something to keep
this lady happy i know uh but you can't put that the hotdog cart is pretty big yeah i know
would it fit in the bathroom right now no like if you stood it up yeah but you have to roll it in
there yeah i don't think you could hold it to the ceiling i i asked about that and it it it would
cover all the lights it could be problematic all right yeah i don't know i her spending habits
compared to mine at this point she can have what she wants i get it kuntosh monthly run rate you
know there's all this dumb shit i buy so all right so the addition will be done in a couple months
she's like i bought shoes they're 30 do you think these are 35 dollars or should i return them and i'm
like so here's the monthly kuntosh you know restoration bill and it's like it's another
universe yes crazy yeah such a fucking shithead no it gives her permission to have fun both of our
wives are too frugal they are i tried i tried to have fun yes bed more money if you want the shoes
just get the fucking shoes like you do you know whatever yeah that's our show thank you everybody
i'm going to the going up north and then i'll be back in time for our next show if you can if you
are in detroit or in the midwest in month of august you want to come see us at royal oak at
248 garage august 13 tickets are on sale right now the link is in our instagram bio um
or are you on a bed bright so if you go to that bright you could search for the smoking tire
podcast but it's all it is in our your instagram bio my instagram bio yeah um easy easy to find
you can't figure it out i don't want to tell you but uh come on down for that of course our giveaway
Porsche videos up zack and i went to zaya national park for one day uh to break in that car for you
so be sure to get your entries in that's going until august and we have anything else to share
today no we have just videos coming videos are coming that's the other thing is that videos
are coming see you guys later bye
About this episode
Hosts kick off with sponsor/legal chatter, then circle into a charity-tied giveaway: “Guys, the Smoking Tire is giving away
a 992.1 Turbo S in partnership with Dream Giveaways.” The conversation turns into judging exotics at a charity show, where tire-age rules disqualified cars—“I insta-de-queued seven cars for having tires that were older than seven years.” They also explain “hard” vs “soft” DQs, share a few standout exotics, and weave in live-show logistics, sponsor reads, and more car talk.
Matt Farah and Zack Klapman discuss Audi's new supercar, the Nuvolari; get confused by Mustang history; Matt tells us about his role as a judge for an inaugural car charity event; and Patreon questions include:
Is the Gumball 3000 the pinnacle of "rally"?
How to spot undercover police cars
Does altitude effect our car reviews?
The hardest car part we've had to find
Do we enjoy driving slow cars slowly?
Will smooth '90s styling come back?
$50k for a "plan Z" car with my friends
How fast do you go in the canyons?
Which cars do better on BaT vs Cars and Bids?
Underrated food cities
And more!
Recorded June 9, 2026
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