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Back To The Car Future

Back To The Car Future

Smith and Sniff Jul 17, 2026 33 min
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About this episode

A listener’s classic-car show report kicks things off, then the hosts argue about hot-hatch generations, why the Honda S2000 feels wrong at low revs, and why some modern “AMG” hype doesn’t match real handling. The conversation turns practical: rural transport, second-car criteria (bike loading, fast heat), and budget used-car picks like the Skoda Yeti, EVs, and older Subarus. They also weave in car-history daydreams—Mini, DeLorean, and early Porsche—before ending on more Q&A.

Technical Too Afraid to Ask
Car

A112 Abarth A112

"...ks ago, isn't it? Lo and behold, there was a 1979 Abarth A112 being displayed. Nevertheless, my question to you..."

The Abarth A112 is a small car that was made to be quicker and more fun than a normal version of the same basic model. Abarth is known for tuning cars for performance. The podcast is mentioning a specific year because collectors and fans often care about those details.

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Volkswagen Golf Gti

"For me, I hate the E-Type with its weedy inset rear wheels and the Mark V Golf GTI, ... You're wrong about the Mark V GTI, though. ... It was full of vigor."

The Volkswagen Golf GTI is a sporty compact hatchback. The “Mark V” is one generation of it, and they’re debating whether this version felt strong or kind of weak compared to an earlier one.

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Car

Jaguar Etype

"For me, I hate the E-Type with its weedy inset rear wheels and the Mark V Golf GTI, ... He thinks the E-Type's beautiful, but he thinks in its weird how inboard the track is."

The Jaguar E-Type is a famous old-school British sports car. Here they’re talking about how its rear wheels sit in a way that some people find odd or less “right” looking.

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Car

Ford Fiesta St

"...onfidence inspiring in corners, in contrast to my Fiesta ST, which is a fabulous all-rounder, apart from the ..."

The Ford Fiesta is a small car that’s easy to drive and park. Some versions, like the Fiesta ST, are tuned to feel more sporty. The podcast is saying it works well overall, especially compared with another car they’re talking about.

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inboard

"Nick says, my question to you is, what cars do you dislike, contrary to popular opinion? ... He thinks the E-Type's beautiful, but he thinks in its weird how inboard the track is."

“Inboard” means pushed toward the middle of the car. They’re saying the E-Type’s wheels sit in a way that looks or feels unusual compared to other cars.

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Place

M4

"And bizarrely, I was actually stuck in some traffic on the M4 a couple of days ago, ... and a Mark V GTI driven by an older couple would have kept passing me and me passing them."

The M4 is a big highway/motorway in the UK. The host mentions it because they saw the car while stuck in traffic there.

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Car

Honda S2000

"I've never understood the S2000 Honda. [225.0s] I think the... [228.8s] It doesn't have any torque, which when they were new, [231.9s] it irritated the living shit out of me."

The Honda S2000 is a sporty Honda roadster that’s famous for revving high and feeling very “driver” oriented. The speaker is saying it doesn’t pull strongly at low engine speeds, so you have to keep it in lower gears and rev it more to enjoy it.

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torque

"It doesn't have any torque, which when they were new, [231.9s] it irritated the living shit out of me. [234.2s] So you've got to drive it."

Torque is the engine’s “pulling power.” If a car has low torque, it can feel weak when you’re not revving the engine high, so you often need lower gears or more throttle to get moving.

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too low gear

"You seemingly drive it like a fake policeman everywhere in a too low gear. [239.6s] Slightly too low gear, yeah."

A “too low gear” is when you’re in a gear that’s lower than you really need for your speed. That makes the engine spin faster than it should, which can be necessary in some cars to make them feel lively.

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swap ends

"I thought it was just always trying to swap ends, [251.8s] and it just didn't feel very friendly and interesting."

“Swap ends” is a way of saying the car’s back end gets loose and swings around. The speaker is saying the S2000 felt like it wanted to rotate in a way that didn’t feel comfortable or predictable.

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Car

Mini Classic Mini

"...s my prejudice. And I don't particularly like the classic Mini, which I know people will spit and hate me for,"

The classic Mini is a small car with a very recognizable shape and layout. People often have strong opinions about it—either they love it or they don’t. The podcast is mentioning the classic Mini because the speaker is explaining their own preference.

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Car

Imp Hilman Imp

"I'm sorry. I'd rather have an auto Bianchi or a Hilman Imp or many other small cars,"

The Hillman Imp is a very small older car. It’s known for being light and easy to drive because it’s compact. The podcast is saying they’d rather have a small car like that than some other options mentioned.

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Car

NSU Prince Sprint

"like an NSU Prince Sprint or whatever they call it. [321.7s] I would, I like those,"

The NSU Prince Sprint is an older small German car. It’s the sort of obscure, compact classic that people like when they’re talking about the charm of tiny cars.

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Car

Mercedes-Benz AMG One

"...t don't get it. Like, they're sort of amusing the AMG ones, I mean. They're kind of amusing and interesting,"

The AMG One is a very extreme Mercedes-AMG supercar meant for maximum performance. It’s built to showcase advanced technology and how fast it can be. The podcast is basically saying it’s an unusual, interesting kind of Mercedes.

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Car

Mercedes G-class

"And I think Mercedes could make that car better, but then it wouldn't feel like a G-class, so they don't."

The Mercedes G-class is a famous, rugged luxury SUV with a very recognizable, old-school look. The point here is that Mercedes could make it better in some ways, but they keep it the way it is so it still feels like a G-class.

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Audi RSs

"I think the problem with Audi RSs, and to a point now, BMWs,"

Audi’s “RS” models are the high-performance versions of certain Audis. Here, the hosts are about to talk about why they think Audi’s RS cars may not be what they want.

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Car

Audi Rs

"They're 10 to 15-year-old version. I looked at an Audi RS for the other day, and I can never remember the B..."

The RS e-tron GT is an electric Audi designed for fast, sporty driving. It’s meant to be comfortable for longer trips while still feeling quick. The podcast is bringing it up in the context of how people talk about different versions over time.

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Lamborghini Aventador

"[488.2s] another car that I don't like, [489.8s] and I think probably a lot of people do, [491.4s] but perhaps that's because they haven't had the chance [493.1s] to drive one, is the Lamborghini Aventador. ... [541.1s] At the time, I think it was rightly about it, [542.9s] the best way to enjoy an Aventador is from another car."

The Lamborghini Aventador is a very loud, high-power supercar with a big V12 engine. Here, the hosts are saying the car’s gearbox/transmission felt bad to drive, which made the whole experience less fun.

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single-clutch thing

"[510.3s] I remember the gearbox being aggressive, [512.0s] really aggressive. [513.0s] Yeah, but in a way, it was a single-clutch thing. [518.4s] Back in the day, I drove a Merci Lago,"

A “single-clutch” gearbox uses one clutch to transfer power from the engine to the transmission. The host is basically saying it can make the car feel jerky or intense when it changes gears.

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Car

McLaren W1

"…I'd forgotten it even existed is the other week, [585.8s] the reviews of the McLaren W1 came out, [588.5s] and I genuinely went, [589.4s] oh, God, I've completely forgotten about that. [592.4s] And here it is,"

The McLaren W1 is a very expensive, top-tier supercar from McLaren. People pay attention to it when reviews come out, because it’s meant to be a “big deal” car.

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Car

Allegro Austin Allegros

"and I'm apologising because everyone has their opinion. Come on, I like Austin Allegro's. Don't listen to me."

The Allegro is an older British car that was made for everyday family use. People often have very different opinions about it—some love it and some don’t. The podcast is mentioning it because the speaker is defending their liking for the car.

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Car

Skoda Yeti

"is a [852.6s] Skoda Yeti. [855.3s] Oh, yeah, they are. [856.7s] I think you could get a bike with a [858.7s] seat down."

The Skoda Yeti is a small SUV/crossover that’s popular because it’s surprisingly practical. The hosts mention it can fit bikes easily, but they also warn that rust—especially on the suspension—can be an issue.

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engine was gutless

"because she thought the engine was [869.4s] gutless. It was one of the 1.2s. [874.7s] But there's [875.7s] no denying how capacious [877.7s] it was."

“Gutless” just means the engine doesn’t feel strong—like it doesn’t accelerate very well. In this case, the host is saying the Yeti’s smaller 1.2-liter engine felt a bit too weak for them.

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suspension rust

"They rust. Be carefully [886.1s] rust. [889.9s] Specifically the suspension rust."

Suspension rust means the metal parts that help the car handle bumps are corroding. That can become a safety issue and can also make repairs harder and more expensive later.

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wishbones

"They're notorious for rusting, so I know this sounds a bit weird, but when you replace things like wishbones, actually rust-proof them."

Wishbones are parts of the suspension that hold the wheel in the right position as the car moves. If they rust badly, replacing them can make the car handle properly again.

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Yeti
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Car

Yeti

"OK, well, the cheapest Yeti I can see here is $1,750 for a petrol Yeti. Yes, OK. If John was prepared to spend a bit more, there's a bright red one here for three grand."

The Škoda Yeti is a small SUV. Here they’re discussing how much used ones cost and what you might pay depending on the car and condition.

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EV

"[992.8s] It just costs you buttons to do that [995.6s] in an EV. If you can charge at home [997.2s] that's a bit heavy I suppose."

EV just means an electric car. Instead of using petrol, it runs on electricity stored in a battery, and the host is talking about how convenient it is if you can charge it at home.

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Car

Kia Soul EV

"[1003.8s] Here's the thing. [1005.4s] Kia Soul EV [1006.7s] where are they up to? [1008.9s] I had one of those for a year [1011.0s] and you can definitely get bikes in those"

This is Kia’s electric version of the Soul. The hosts are talking about how practical it is for everyday errands—like carrying a bike—because the interior space is easy to use.

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Zoe

"[1011.0s] and you can definitely get bikes in those [1013.0s] and I had a Zoe for a year [1014.6s] and you can definitely get a bike in it. [1016.2s] Zoe's got a huge boot with the seats down. [1018.9s] Huge."

The Renault Zoe is an electric car. The point being made is that it has a big trunk (especially with the seats folded) so it’s practical for hauling things like a bike.

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Concept

salvage car

"[1022.4s] In fact, this could be good territory [1024.3s] to recommend getting [1025.7s] a salvage car [1027.8s] because you can have something like a Kia Soul [1030.5s] with a gashed front wing [1033.5s] or sometimes [1034.4s] a bumper that's slightly hanging off"

A salvage car is one that was badly damaged and the insurance company decided it wasn’t worth fixing at the time. The host is saying you might still find a salvage EV where the damage is mostly cosmetic, so it can be a cheaper way to get a practical electric car.

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Car

Subaru Outback

"I'm thinking maybe Subaru Outback, older one you can get them for under £1,500 that's manual or auto full time four wheel drive"

The Subaru Outback is a rugged car that’s designed to handle bad weather and rough roads. Here, the host is saying older Outbacks can be a budget-friendly choice if you want to tow things and go camping.

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full-time four-wheel drive

"that's manual or auto full time four wheel drive often come with the tow bar"

“Full-time four-wheel drive” means the car is always driving all four wheels. That usually helps it grip better on wet, snowy, or muddy roads—useful if you’re going off the beaten path.

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tow bar

"full time four wheel drive often come with the tow bar so if you want to do some, I don't know,"

A tow bar is the hitch that lets you attach a trailer to your car. If you want to tow camping gear or other stuff, you typically need one.

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Honda Element

"“Oh, my Honda Element was amazing [1147.0s] at that incredible level.”"

The Honda Element is a Honda that’s famous for being really practical inside. It’s the kind of car where you can fold the seats down and load bulky stuff like bikes more easily than most cars.

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JDM

"“I was thinking JDM and I'm thinking [1153.5s] Alphards”"

JDM stands for Japanese Domestic Market. It refers to cars that were originally sold in Japan, and enthusiasts often associate JDM models with specific trims, right-hand-drive layouts, and different equipment than what was sold elsewhere.

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Toyota Alphard

"“I was thinking JDM and I'm thinking [1153.5s] Alphards [1155.8s] because they're petrol”"

The Toyota Alphard is a big Japanese family van. The hosts are talking about it because it’s spacious and can be set up to carry bulky items like bikes, and they’re also discussing older ones as a cheaper way in.

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petrol

"“because they're petrol [1157.8s] they're certainly”"

“Petrol” is the UK term for gasoline, meaning these Alphards are discussed as internal-combustion vehicles rather than hybrids or EVs. In this context, it’s part of the reason they’re being considered as a “car future” alternative to electrification.

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Toyota Previa

"...et into more recent Alphards What about a naughty Previa we've talked about Prevs before"

The Toyota Previa is a minivan designed to carry people and luggage comfortably. When someone says “naughty Previa,” they usually mean a version that’s more fun or different than the typical family-focused one. It’s still fundamentally a practical people-carrier.

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Toyota RAV4

"Paul is a fan of early first generation Toyota RAV4s which you can get in 3 and 5 door and the thing about those RAV4s is they've got really jazzy 90s interiors"

The Toyota RAV4 is a small SUV from Toyota. Here they’re describing the early, first-generation ones—especially the older 3- and 5-door versions—and why the shape makes them useful for hauling when you fold the seats down.

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Topic

RAV4 search

"we should do a little RAV4 search but cap it at 2001"

They’re talking about how to search for an older RAV4 and what kind of deals you might find.

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cap it at 2001

"but cap it at 2001 I don't know what the, is that what it is"

They mean “don’t look past the year 2001.” It’s a way to narrow the search to older cars from a certain time period.

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three door

"what about Mark 1 Freelander [1311.3s] with the [1312.2s] three door with the removable roof"

“Three door” means there are fewer doors for getting in and out—usually two side doors and then the back hatch. It’s a layout you’ll see on some older SUVs and it can feel more compact.

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removable roof

"with the [1312.2s] three door with the removable roof [1314.3s] Yes"

A removable roof means you can take the roof off the car. That turns it into an open-air vehicle for better fresh-air and “outdoors” vibes.

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Car

Mark 1 Freelander

"and he worked on [1335.6s] the Mark 1 Freelander [1336.6s] and he [1339.0s] one of like really earlier"

The Land Rover Freelander is an older 4x4 SUV. Here they’re talking about the first version (Mark 1) and how it can still work as a real four-wheel-drive car instead of being changed to drive only the front wheels.

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reduction gear

"you know a lot of people because the reduction gear thing [1368.1s] fails so people just take it off [1369.6s] and have a front wheel drive Freelander"

A reduction gear is a set of gears that makes the drivetrain “geared down” for more control and pulling power at low speeds. If it fails, the car may not be able to run its proper 4x4 system anymore.

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special edition

"[1387.8s] Oh my gosh a yellow one [1389.4s] Callahari Special Edition [1391.1s] Yeah for about two and a half grand"

A “Special Edition” is a version of a car that comes with a particular set of extras or a unique look. It’s usually meant to feel different from the regular model.

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Concept

barn find

"[1429.1s] Johnny arrives at a barn find [1435.9s] shoot expecting to see an example of"

A “barn find” is a car that’s been sitting in storage for years. People get excited because it might be rare or original, but it usually needs repairs before it can drive again.

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Car

Delorean DMC-12

"[1435.9s] shoot expecting to see an example of [1437.9s] Dunn Murray's notorious stainless steel abomination the DeLorean [1440.1s] Steady on Mike"

The DeLorean is a weird-looking sports car from the 1980s that’s famous for its stainless-steel body. It’s also the car from the “Back to the Future” movies, so people recognize it instantly.

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flux capacitor

"[1454.2s] gentleman's literature [1454.2s] and getting the car out [1455.2s] plugs are removed, bores lubed, spark check, fuel introduced [1458.0s] and the flux capacitor [1460.1s] is switched on"

The “flux capacitor” is a made-up part from the “Back to the Future” movies. It’s not something you’d find in a real car—here it’s just part of the time-travel story.

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spark check

"[1454.2s] and getting the car out [1455.2s] plugs are removed, bores lubed, spark check, fuel introduced [1458.0s] and the flux capacitor"

A “spark check” means verifying the ignition system is actually making spark at the spark plugs. It’s a quick way to see if the engine has the basic electrical ignition it needs to start.

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plugs are removed

"[1454.2s] and getting the car out [1455.2s] plugs are removed, bores lubed, spark check, fuel introduced [1458.0s] and the flux capacitor"

Taking out the spark plugs lets you inspect them and helps with starting/diagnosing an engine. It’s often part of getting an older engine ready to run again.

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bores lubed

"[1454.2s] and getting the car out [1455.2s] plugs are removed, bores lubed, spark check, fuel introduced [1458.0s] and the flux capacitor"

“Bores lubed” means adding lubrication inside the cylinders. If an engine has been sitting, this can help prevent extra wear when you first try to turn it over.

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Person

Derek Bell

"and I got to see five time in a month [1534.5s] winner Derek Bell because he was competing [1536.6s] in an Astra one year"

Derek Bell is a famous race car driver from the UK. Here, the host is saying he was competing in a car called an Astra during one year.

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Car

Opel Astra

"winner Derek Bell because he was competing in an Astra one year but so not that because"

The Opel Astra is a compact car meant for normal driving. The podcast mentions it in a racing context, because someone like Derek Bell drove an Astra in competition. That’s why it’s being brought up beyond just being a regular car.

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product development director

"including [1601.2s] a guy called Rob Oldaker [1602.9s] who was the product development director"

A “product development director” is a senior manager who oversees how a new car gets planned and built. They help coordinate the people working on the design and engineering work.

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Company

MG Rover

"who was the product development director [1605.9s] at MG Rover [1607.7s] a fascinating bloke but I was talking to him"

MG Rover was the UK automotive company that owned the MG brand and produced cars under the MG and Rover nameplates. The host mentions it because Rob Oldaker’s role there connects him to the development of MG-era vehicles.

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Longbridge

"and he was working at Longbridge [1624.4s] I said you didn't work with this agonist did you"

Longbridge is the famous MG Rover/Rover production site in the UK, historically associated with large-scale car manufacturing. Mentioning it places the guest’s career in the context of UK mass car production.

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Andre Citroen

"just go back to [1641.2s] hang out with Andre Citroen [1643.0s] or something as he kind of went [1644.3s] let's make it front wheel drive"

André Citroën was an early car maker in France who helped influence how cars were built and marketed. The hosts mention him here because they’re talking about early design choices like front-wheel drive.

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front wheel drive

"or something as he kind of went [1644.3s] let's make it front wheel drive [1647.2s] I don't speak French very well"

Front-wheel drive means the front wheels do the work of moving the car. It can change how the car feels and handles compared with cars where the rear wheels drive.

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Car

Porsche 356

"the launch of the [1657.3s] 356 Porsche would be interesting [1658.9s] because that was their first product [1661.6s] just to see whether"

The Porsche 356 was the first car Porsche made for customers. It matters because it’s the start of Porsche as a company, so the hosts are using its launch to talk about how people responded at the beginning.

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Porsche 911

"... lot of prejudice initially and the same with the 911 I guess now knowing what we know"

The Porsche 911 is a sports car made by Porsche that’s been around for a very long time. People often have strong opinions about it, especially when new versions come out. The podcast is touching on how those opinions can shift once you understand the car better.

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front wheel driving things

"explaining ... what it was like and how it's front wheel driving things"

Front-wheel drive means the front wheels are the ones that push the car forward. It can change how the car steers and feels compared to cars where the back wheels do the pushing.

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John DeLorean

"the unveil at the factory of the DeLorean with John DeLorean"

John DeLorean was the person who helped create the DeLorean car company. When people talk about the DeLorean’s big introduction, they often mention him because he was the driving force behind it.

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butterfly effect

"or in doing so is this kind of butterfly effect [1753.5s] that would have catastrophic consequences"

The butterfly effect means tiny changes can lead to big, unexpected results. In stories about changing the past, it’s the reason one small action could completely change everything that happens next.

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Pontiac Gto

"let's talk about the Pontiac GTO in a minute but first if you get invited to a hotel room"

The Pontiac GTO is a famous old American performance car. People call it a “muscle car” because it was built to be fast, usually with a strong V8 engine, and it became a big deal in car history.

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