Billy Hoskinson and Chris Lane dive into the heated debate of all-wheel drive (AWD) versus rear-wheel drive (RWD) in the drag racing scene. They discuss the performance advantages of AWD cars, the challenges faced by RWD competitors, and the intricacies of tuning and setup. The conversation also touches on the unique dynamics of racing, including the cost per pass and the strategies behind successful runs. With insights from recent races and a look at the evolving landscape of drag racing, this episode is packed with technical knowledge and personal anecdotes.
"...e normally legal. I was surprised that four-wheel Mustang made it that far. That was trying something in a ..."
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"...you want it to be a little more inclusive to the all-wheel drive trucks because people are building a lot of them."
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"...if they miss their tune-up a little bit, it doesn't hurt them as bad. If you miss the tune-up and gain wheel speed in a rear-wheel drive car..."
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"...gain wheel speed in a rear-wheel drive car, it doesn't motivate an all-wheel drive."
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"Even like your Camaro is more optimized for what you're trying to do with it than that."
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"But even the F-150s are like stock suspension F-150s, some of them."
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"they're starting to get more serious with some of the Tube Chassis trucks they're building."
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"It's crazy to put a big block in it, too, because the Coyotes make $3,000. I think the Coyotes are the way to go..."
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"Yeah, I mean, especially once you have like a lock up trans and stuff, too, and you can really get pretty crazy on it."
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"It's hard when you already have a Coyote to be like, all right, I'm switching to a big block."
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"It's not like an LS switching to a big block or a Peter Baum going backwards in a way."
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"Yeah, he did a lot of work to get his car switched over, man. I mean, he was big block and he put an LS in it."
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"I think I'm at the limit of my current configuration as far as shocks and springs and stuff."
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"I think I'm at the limit of my current configuration as far as shocks and springs and stuff."
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"I think a lot of it is because it's just not weight transferring enough."
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"I really need to do a spring change next time I come back."
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"...in the middle and hitting traction control. And then by the time I'm in high gear, the wing starts really working..."
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"...Listen, Ryan got treated by a GTR. The first time in history, anybody's ever been treated by a GTR."
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"Even though it was an eight, eight rear end like people like, oh, my God, an eight, eight with all that on it, you know?"
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"Yeah, that crazy horse looks like it's got a lot of mile an hour out the back. It does, man, that makes a lot of power."
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"It does, man, that makes a lot of power. And it puts it down like it hooks and goes."
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All right guys, today we got Billy Hoskinson, Hoskinson, Hoskinson, Hoskinson from
Street Race Channel, and Chris Lane with him.
Fresh off of all-wheel drive racing now.
Is it clear that why all-wheel drive cars aren't allowed in that normal small tire?
Is that kind of like makes it clear almost or does it seem like it's a toss-up they
should let them in?
Well, I'll tell you what.
We had 16 cars on rear-wheel drive and they were, for the most part, the baddest backside
cars in the country.
And they had 16 of the baddest all-wheel drive.
But honestly, anywhere else in the country, those all-wheel drive would just absolutely
walk everyone.
It wouldn't even be close, but we have the best rear-wheel drive there.
That was like the meeting of the meetings with people trying some shit that wouldn't
be normally legal.
I was surprised that four-wheel Mustang made it that far.
That was trying something in a pretty out-of-left field.
That guy is super smart.
He races up by us a lot.
He's from Chicago area and he put that duly setup on and only tested it once on the
way there.
It was like last minute.
It looks a lot less ridiculous than Charles.
It looks like he was going real.
He was going pretty fast.
I think Nathan Wheeler just treat him a little bit and could make it up.
That was one of the closest photo finishes there.
But I guess it doesn't make it clear why those guys wouldn't be allowed.
And most of them, absolutely.
Just kind of sad because you want it to be a little more inclusive to the all-wheel
drive trucks because people are building a lot of them.
What it boils down to is they have more rubber on the ground and if they miss
their tune-up a little bit, it doesn't hurt them as bad.
If you miss the tune-up and gain wheel speed in a rear-wheel drive car, it doesn't motivate
an all-wheel drive.
It just you lose so much ET.
Well, it's even when you think about somebody like Garrett who probably doesn't have as
much data or testing to beat somebody like Charles who has a ton of data and testing
on Houdini.
It really kind of shows the difference there, too.
Yeah, Garrett's just having fun, man.
Yeah, that's kind of the sad part.
He's trying, but he's having fun.
Some of these guys, these rear-wheel drive guys are serious and they're smart.
Yeah, rear-wheel drive is not optimized like a regular.
No, it's heavy.
Even like your Camaro is more optimized for what you're trying to do with it than that.
Front side, yeah.
Yeah, so it kind of makes sense.
But even the F-150s are like stock suspension F-150s, some of them.
Yeah, and they do well, some of them.
I mean, they're starting to get more serious with some of the Tube Chassis trucks they're
building.
There was a green one that I seen the other day with the gold wheels.
It's like a full Tube Chassis big block, like $400,000 truck is what Manuel told me.
And a truck.
Yeah.
And an F-150.
And they were trying to bring it to that race, but they just ran out of time.
But it probably would have been a killer, I'm sure.
It's crazy to put a big block in it, too, because the Coyotes make $3,000.
I think the Coyotes are the way to go, and then things, man, they don't make as much torque
and they just all RPM and horsepower.
Yeah, I mean, especially once you have like a lock up trans and stuff, too, and you can
really get pretty crazy on it.
Yeah.
I don't know, it's hard to...
It's hard when you already have a Coyote to be like, all right, I'm switching to a
big block.
Right.
That's a tough decision to make.
It's not like an LS switching to a big block or a Peter Baum going backwards in
a way.
Yeah, he did a lot of work to get his car switched over, man.
I mean, he was big block and he put an LS in it.
He used the same turbos, but I mean, there was a ton of work and testing that went into
that deal.
And even Ryan, too, with putting the LS in his last minute, he was big block the week
before and then had an LS block, bare block laying on the shop floor like three days
before the race.
Yeah, that's nutty.
Do you think on another test hit, you would have been able to beat him?
Which one?
Your car in the car.
All crazy horse?
Yeah.
Like, do you think if you ran it back, you would have been able to?
I think I'm at the limit of my current configuration as far as shocks and springs and stuff.
I want to make a lot of changes when I get back home because my car is not moving through
the middle of the track like it should.
And I think a lot of it is because it's just not weight transferring enough.
It doesn't have enough stored energy in the front springs.
I really need to do a spring change next time I come back.
Wow.
It's interesting that it's not moving enough weight back there that's a little backwards
for my normal thinking as a guy that's only driven on radial tires.
Yeah.
Like, so it leaves the line and it only travels like an inch in the front and it starts kind
of spinning in the middle and hitting traction control.
And then by the time I'm in high gear, the wing starts really working and it hooks
back up, but there's so much ET I'm losing in the middle of the track just
because it's not weight transferring enough, I don't think, and it's not getting the
cranks that are lined up high enough.
Yeah.
But I've learned so much out here just the last few days and what to do and what not to do.
That track had a lot of rubber down on it by the end of it.
I was really surprised to see, even at the like, I was standing at the top end and
it was rubber all the way up there.
It was getting better and better, but I will say like racing during the day like
that the rubber that's there isn't usually that good because it's kind of just moves
around. It's like really gooey and you can actually like tear it up.
If you like, if you hook on it too hard, it like rips the rubber up and then you
spin. Yeah.
It's kind of, I don't know, if they raced at night, it would get really, really fast.
Interesting. How do you rate that surface kind of comparatively?
There's really nothing like it at home.
It's one of those things where it's kind of slow to the 60 foot, but out
the back, it's very fast and it's uphill.
Oh yeah, it does have a little bit of uphill to it.
Yeah, it's like 40 feet uphill by the end.
But yeah, I would say it's like a, I don't know, middle, I would say middle,
like track. It's not like the best, but it's not good.
It's rough asphalt.
Like for kind of understanding maybe like you couldn't skateboard down it.
It's pretty bumpy in spots.
Like you kind of struggle to like drive, like ride a skateboard.
It's very crowned too.
But yeah, it's a challenge for sure.
I thought we were going to be able to go a lot faster, easier.
When I, I plan on going like a 20 right off the trailer and testing
and it just didn't take it. Yeah.
So I backed it down a little bit and kind of tightened up my traction control.
And then the second hit, I think we went a 40 something.
How many passes did you do in testing?
Just two. Just two.
Yeah, we ran out of time to do more.
Yeah, two and a few passes.
Looking back, I probably should have made one earlier in the day.
I kind of waited till some more rubber got laid down
because I thought, you know, it would be better data for the next day.
Just for reference, five hundred dollars per pass
was what Garo is charging.
Yeah. He he let he let me have one free one.
He sponsored me one.
Oh, that was nice. It was kind of nice, but a little comp pass.
Yeah. For your troubles of traveling.
Yeah. I don't know.
Somebody asked me why I wasn't going on Facebook
and I was just straight up honest.
I'm like, I honestly don't feel like I have a good shot
because they have so much data there.
They've done like three shootouts.
You know, they've all got at least.
At least 10 passes, you know, I honestly think the five hundred
dollars per pass is kind of cool because it all goes back to the pot.
It made the pot stupid big and double the pot.
And it didn't really like, you know, it came from the racers.
So it wasn't like outside sponsor.
I don't know.
It just kind of seemed like a good way to do it that I've never seen.
Yeah. You're already running for 20 grand.
I mean, most people would pay the extra
five hundred dollars just to get an extra hit because like
that's a lot of money. Yeah.
I mean, something like War in the Woods did that.
That'd be kind of sick.
Like you get like a huge amount of thought.
Yeah, I don't know if I don't know if it would work like that there.
It's it's hard going too fast if they got tested.
A lot of people wouldn't like that.
A lot of people wouldn't show up.
They're like, oh, Ryan's going to get a hit and he's going to, you know,
they're banking on him, maybe missing right off the trailer or something.
Listen, Ryan got treated by a GTR.
The first time in history, anybody's ever been treated by a GTR.
It happened.
There's a video circulating now that if you watch the tire crack,
the rim actually does move before the light comes on.
I don't know.
Yeah, I was really close.
That's kind of the that's kind of what you sign up for when you got a light,
though, right?
Yeah, this call is going to happen.
Well, I mean, you got to be truthful on the call.
I mean, if you know that that call is made and you see that,
like you better be right because if you ain't, you're going to be in trouble.
Grilled. And then that falls back to Olympia gets final call.
But once it's after round one, it's kind of like.
Shit out of luck.
It's a lot harder in the daytime to see the light to sometimes,
especially with a camera that's that far back.
And it looks like it's 720p or whatever.
It's super hard to see it.
A lot of times when you slow the shit down, like really slow,
it takes away the quality of the video overall.
Well, I was kind of laughing, too, because it seemed like every time
the other team won, they were yelling, jump.
The other team would yell jump every time without fail if they lost.
When when there's a race with that much money on the line, that's what happens.
They they protest everything.
They want to see it like I get it.
I get reviewing everyone, like, especially with the amount of time
in between each pass at this deal. Yeah.
Like you might as well review the full footage.
I mean, there's
because the way that they have to like come down and turn around
and like do the whole thing.
Olympia's got like 10 minutes before between passes.
That's why you can't live stream it.
Yeah. Everybody's like, where's the live stream?
It's like, well, it's like 20 minutes between pass per pass.
And then another 30 minutes.
Yeah. People would be bored.
Yeah. You need something in between to break it up.
No other class like just that.
I don't know if the jumping stuff is so tough.
That's why I like trees.
I'm very I like a tree.
Yeah. It doesn't lie.
I get it. I get it.
But sometimes with what we do, like.
I've guessed the light before and it's won me races.
It's also lost me some. It's just part of it.
You know, it's part of the kind of street atmosphere of it.
Like, yeah, even if somebody shows up with a faster car,
more money, better trailer, you know, whatever, like,
you still got a shot because you can get three tents on the light sometimes.
Yeah. I mean, that's kind of the kind of part of it with the little gangster
tough to stuff, too, is like it being no time and you don't know
what the other guy's doing.
You get that like mystery of as long as you're good on your light.
But that's that's obvious.
That's all bracket racing and it makes it kind of makes it fun.
What do you think of the the weird stuff?
You know, like everybody was saying,
like Garrett probably wasn't going to let Houdini run.
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I was surprised that Houdini kind of put that out there
a week in advance because that gave him time to be like,
you know, I really don't want this in my race.
Brian White, on the other hand,
with the duly Mustang, the red one,
he didn't really show his setup until the day before.
We didn't even know he was like silent for a month.
We didn't even know he was bringing that.
Well, even seeing the photos, it didn't seem real.
Yeah, it was too good. Yeah.
Like his didn't look real.
Even Houdini didn't look real because it was too goofy.
It was like the two complete opposite spectrums.
But one was like super.
Even though it was an eight, eight rear end like people like,
oh, my God, an eight, eight with all that on it, you know?
But it definitely looked, you know, more normal because it was tucked.
And he didn't show how he did it either.
I don't think like what the duly setup looks like on that.
No, it's just super stubby in there.
Like what that?
I don't know.
He must have shortened an eight, eight like crazy
and found some kind of adapters. I don't know.
Like real duly adapters type of.
Yeah, that's the other thing like Charles showed what he did.
He just welded some tubes together.
Honestly, if he went more passes, it probably would have broken.
Yeah.
I don't know how much load that could have taken.
He was he showed in his video,
he was using his lawn tractor to pull the axles out
because they were bending and the flanges were warping and stuff.
That's what I mean.
Like how many passes where that was that really going to be able to take?
Only one race, I'm sure.
And ruin your whole rear end.
The axles are probably bad.
Probably bearings and.
Yeah, that thing's probably cooked.
I'm sure the carriers messed up in there.
But hey, I mean, if it won 40 grand, it doesn't really matter.
He tried it.
I think Brian White's car, it looked really, really impressive to me.
He took out Gringo by an inch and I know that trucks really fast.
So I think most for the most part,
rear wheel drive was like all within two, three tenths of each other.
And I think Ryan was the fastest for sure.
Yeah, I don't think anybody touched a four.
They're close, I'm sure.
And Ryan posted his five and he pedaled his because it was wheeling a little bit.
Like it wasn't even a perfect pass.
Like he posted a five oh six, five oh nine.
I don't I haven't seen anybody post anything faster.
I think the other fastest one from all the drive I saw was that cyclone
at a five team or whatever.
I'm sure a lot of those guys were five teams, maybe high five ohs.
But I feel like Ryan was going to be the fastest.
Yeah, that crazy horse looks like it's got a lot of mile an hour
out the back. It does, man, that makes a lot of power.
And it puts it down like it hooks and goes.
He probably has one of the most passes out there on his chassis.
Like he's dialed it in probably more than.
I would probably say Ryan's the only one that has more passes on his car,
but I don't think it's possible to get more crazy horse didn't always work
that good like that.
Like if you look at videos of it back in the day on 1320,
it used to just be all over the damn place.
That's why they called it would call it out because it was wild, dead straight.
Yeah, now it's just tame and fast.
Yeah, it's a cool truck.
It's it's weird to see a diesel because like I mean,
you've probably seen other diesels struggle like crazy
in every other form of drag racing.
They always blow up and he's just got it so dialed in.
It's like kind of messes with me a little bit. Yeah, I used to that.
Yeah, it's a it's a really nice car or truck.
I mean, it's probably thirty eight hundred horsepower.
Something like that. I know it's over three.
I wish I had a scramble on one because I mean, I didn't even see him.
But if I would have had it, I would have used it because
it was stuck in high gear and I just didn't even hear him or see him.
And I was just like, oh, I'm good.
And then I just see him right at the end in the cone.
I'm like, damn it.
Yeah, that was a really close one, too.
Yeah, yeah, that's what he probably had like two mile an hour on us.
And he made up most of the ground in the middle
where we were struggling a little bit.
Do you think on another race, there would be any rule change or just try harder?
I don't think any rule changes need to be made, honestly,
because like adding water helps you guys a lot.
We will drive team and it was like a reasonable thing to do.
I feel like, yeah, no waters, a little on.
I kind of feel like most of the all wheel drives
are maxed out as far as the trucks go, just from an aerodynamic standpoint
and what they can mile an hour there versus the power they make.
Now, if somebody brought out something that was like a car
that was all wheel drive, that was really fast,
like those guys probably would have more.
Where's the always send it guys, right?
They they put all wheel drive on that thing.
Yeah, I don't know.
The little last minute bones.
Yeah, that thing's not very arrow either.
It's kind of just leads with the turbo is really
and they're pushing those trucks.
They're like bricks into the wind, you know.
Yeah, I mean, all of them are screaming.
The cyclone is probably the best.
The Dale trucks probably pretty good, too, honestly,
because just being designed for cup racing,
a decent arrow, but those F one fifties can't be good.
Can't be.
Yeah, especially if the grill is not blocked off and everything else.
Yeah, like the green one.
They are one of them has the grill blocked off, but most of them don't.
Yeah. But they're so freaking cool.
Those F one fifties, like it's such a sound good form.
They sound good up top.
And to get down how they do just like, you know,
build one like reasonable, maybe like a streetcar seems really fun.
Those are a little too far, I think, for like the some of the fun of it.
You see on the gas post, I think they said that they bought
or Cleet bought that red cyclone.
Did he?
I don't know if it's true or not.
I mean, I wouldn't really doubt it.
I mean, they those guys don't seem like I love that cyclone.
I think sick.
I don't really know those guys, but they seem like they're more
just interested in like building something cool and then moving on from it.
Yeah. I don't know if they're like trying to.
Drag race, you're like one of the next thing. Yeah.
I mean, you know, for most people, that's probably not
that good of a content producer.
They're like every time we take it out, it costs us thousands of dollars.
How are you going to?
I'm sure they've got a lot of money in it, for sure.
They're serious, the pro-mod races.
Well, they were trying to do.
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They were trying to do what's it called,
that other small tire, no prep king's race.
And it, they canceled that one.
But that one, I feel like could have still went on at the,
that one was supposed to be the radial tire one, right?
Yeah, there was going to be one at Galat and it was a radial prep.
Yeah, I feel like they could have still done that.
That was like weird that they didn't do that one.
Like I feel like Boosted could have still made that one happen.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know the situation there, but they really canceled everything out of the blue.
And I don't think anybody had any idea that it was coming.
I mean, from the outside looking in, we all saw it coming.
Like it was going to end.
Yeah.
But I think a lot of those guys were kind of almost in denial about it, honestly.
I think they kind of had to be.
I mean, I would have just rode it into the ground.
I mean, they did.
Yeah, you kind of had to.
Yeah.
I mean, everybody's kind of got shit for sale that was running that.
Unfortunately, I know Kai sold a bunch of stuff, motors, cars and like might as well.
The production company milked that until it was done, man.
Yeah.
Like they just, and ticket prices and everything were just so expensive to go to those races.
Like in the less and less stars you have at those events, like the less incentive it is
for people to come out.
Yeah.
I mean, if you're got like five stars, four stars, it's like, it's not really all that enticing.
I think they did one at BMP and Victor was like, nah, never again.
No.
Any more people would rather see the small tire guys freaking, you know.
Yeah.
And the YouTube guys.
Yeah.
The YouTube guys definitely take a lot of it now.
But they're all YouTube guys now.
All of those same guys that were.
Some of them got on there quick and some of them took a little longer, but.
Are now YouTube guys.
I mean, chief.
They've all got channels now.
Early on doing YouTube stuff.
Chief was like the first one to really jump ship.
And he's like, you know, I don't have to do this.
I don't have to live by your guys' rules and, you know, your timelines.
I want to do my own thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's cool when I come in for that.
Like he's seen it coming.
Yeah, he did.
I mean, he does a good job with his channel.
I know a lot of people love watching that.
I think that dude just likes to have his own.
Like he just likes his piece at this point.
He just works on cars in his little shop and.
He's just chilling.
Do you think it's, it's saturated?
The YouTube stuff.
Yeah.
Is it feeling a little like everyone at these races now?
It was a lot worse.
I think it's thinned out a little bit now.
There was everyone and their brother was starting channels last year.
But I think a lot of them that have found out how hard it is,
it's thinned out a little bit.
But I think the ones that survived are like the people that do really well at racing.
And people just want to like watch what they're doing.
Like beaters channel is doing pretty well.
Ryan Mitchell's channel is doing pretty well.
But they don't go over the top with their videos.
It's just like bear bones.
Like this is what happened.
We're going over it.
We're showing you the race and not a whole lot of editing.
They just film what they're doing.
Yeah.
And it's working for him.
But he doesn't really post videos.
Who?
Jimmy.
Oh yeah.
Jimmy could be killing it.
I harass him all the time.
I'm like, dude, you were just at a race.
How are you not posting something?
Yeah.
Like I don't understand how it.
I post.
Yeah.
He'll go to a race and post like a month later.
It's like, come on, man.
I think it's because he got spoiled.
Because he wins the races.
He's not as worried.
I think he puts too much pressure on himself
that every video has to be such a banger.
And I think he just gets down on himself sometimes
and he just doesn't want to edit.
Yeah.
I think that kind of.
Yeah.
He needs more people filming for him though.
Yeah.
He always shows up to the track and it's like,
oh well, we got like one cell phone video.
But we didn't really hire a camera guy to go out there and film.
It's like secondary to the racing.
Seems like he's more focused on just winning the race than anything.
Well, you guys have always been a little different
because you film the race.
Like most people don't film other cars.
Yeah.
Like that kind of has always put you guys more into like the
more of like the 1320 where you cover an event.
Kind of a mix of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you cover yourself at the event,
but the event in itself as well.
As time goes on, we've kind of gone more towards just showing our passes.
But it's hard if you don't do well at a race
and then you don't have a long enough video.
It's like, well, it kind of should film the whole event.
That's what we did this one because I mean,
I drew Crazy Horse first round and he got us.
So it's like, what are you going to do?
Might as well film some more, you know, the other cars.
You're going to drive all the way down here and have a 10 minute video.
Right.
This was the pass.
Yeah.
Jimmy doesn't do well and he goes out first round.
He's not filming the whole race and didn't have a video.
Not a chance.
Or the rest of the video is going to be like something random.
Mariachi music and like random stuff.
Yeah.
That's kind of the other flip side of that is,
but that's how you have to do.
You have to fill it with the entertainment.
I think a lot of people don't realize that either.
But I swear I watched one of his videos one time
and it was just like him changing a flat tire
and going to the parts store and coming back
and then like fishing or something.
And it was the most entertaining video he's ever put out.
Like he just put like so much effort into it
and the vibe of the video was so fun.
I don't know and he filmed like everything.
So it was like, I don't know.
It doesn't always have to be like the most exciting stuff
you're filming.
You just got to find a way to make it entertaining.
Well kind of can't be too if you want to film,
if you need to post a lot of videos.
You can't like you need to learn how to film and edit,
which I don't really like vlog style stuff anyways.
So I don't really do a whole lot of that.
Yeah, I feel like it's so boring to me.
And that's where it's really gets saturated
of like these long boring videos.
But maybe they're just boring to me and I have a bad.
Right.
Some people like that stuff.
They'll just sit down and watch it while they're eating dinner
or something and they're not even watching.
They're just listening and trying to learn something.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's interesting.
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We'll get you back to your back to the camper.
Appreciate you coming on Street Race Channel.
What's your next event?
Plug some stuff.
I think we're going to be going to the rewind
it's at Dragway 42.
What is October 11th?
October 11th.
Yeah, that's Chris's event.
It's up in it's up in West Salem, Ohio.
Oh, it's actually one of the new Dorana Dragway.
Dorana.
Yeah.
Yep.
I've been for now four years, I believe now
is a true backwards race.
And I move the starter around so it's always virgin.
Okay.
It's a good backside.
It's pretty fast.
Yeah, we'll be doing that.
And then I think we're going to do Michigan after that.
We got to race up there at Detroit Head TV,
pour your own puddle.
That's another Dorana track.
At least he hasn't said like, you know, you guys got the boot,
you know, because a lot of people come in and they're like,
oh, that like our new insurance company or like who knows.
He seems pretty chill with it.
I mean, it's it's a real worry.
I can understand.
I'm generally very concerned about that.
And I've already like he's already said that like,
yeah, it's not going to happen.
But like it's kind of hard to like take somebody's word for it.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
We'll see.
You hope, you know, with with national trails,
they were kind of not wanting to run it because they're running
towards a big tower.
Yeah.
And there's no real safe way about it.
I mean, if somebody's throttle sticks,
it's like they used to put hay bales in front of it.
But like still, that's why Garrett runs it the way that he does
so that you still go into the field after,
which is kind of tough because the shutdowns a little.
Not crazy long, but you can't have people going towards the road.
Yeah.
And like where people are setting up and like for the event and stuff.
Yeah.
It gets to be a challenge for like a real backside.
And I think we're going to Nashville street car takeover after that.
And I think it's October 24th and fifth or something like that.
Yep.
They're running the speedway and they're running on the pit road.
Yeah.
That one's actually kind of cool sounding on the on the pit road.
Yeah.
I've never ran on NASCAR tracks.
So I want to try that.
Those seem very virgin.
Yeah.
But I feel like if it's a pit road, it's got to be pretty smooth.
That those guys, you know, it's got to be pretty decent asphalt.
So yeah, I'm sure it's pretty good.
All right.
Well, we'll wrap this up.
Thank you guys so much for coming on.
Thanks, man.
Thanks for having us.
I'll put all the links in the description as needed.
And we'll see you next time.
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