The Smoking Tire Mar 17, 2026

Boat Crew Show (+ Montana vs CA; Q&A)

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Concept

twin engines

Twin engines mean the boat has two engines instead of one. You have to control both engines carefully so the boat moves straight and works well.

Term

throttle

The throttle is like a gas pedal that controls how fast the engine runs. On boats with two engines, you have two throttles to control, and they need to work together so the boat moves smoothly.

Concept

mooring

A mooring is like a parking spot in the water where boats can tie up safely instead of dropping an anchor. It helps keep boats in place and organized.

Concept

Google Earth for boating

Google Earth is a tool that shows pictures from above, so boaters can see where good spots to anchor or stop are before they get there.

Concept

maxi class racing sailboats

Maxi class racing sailboats are big, fast sailboats used for racing on the ocean. They are made from strong, light materials and have many people working together to sail them quickly.

Term

carbon fiber

Carbon fiber is a very light and strong material used to make things like boats and cars. It helps them go faster because it weighs less but is still very tough.

Term

knots

Knots are how fast boats and planes go, like miles per hour but for water and air. One knot is a bit faster than one mile per hour.

Concept

team principal

A team principal is like the boss of a racing team. They make big decisions and help run the team during races.

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J-Class yachts

J-Class yachts are very big and fancy old sailboats used in famous boat races a long time ago. They have lots of sails and look really cool.

Term

varnish

Varnish is a shiny coating put on wood to keep it safe from water and damage. It also makes the wood look nice and shiny.

Car

Ferrari 250 LM

The Ferrari 250 LM is an old and special sports car made by Ferrari. It was built to race and is very valuable today.

Term

daily driver

A daily driver is the car you use every day to get around, like going to work or running errands. It's usually easy to drive and dependable.

Concept

boat life

Boat life means spending a lot of time on a boat, either for fun or as a way of living. People who enjoy boat life often go sailing or hang out on the water.

Term

mono hull

A mono hull is a boat that has just one main body or hull. It's the usual kind of boat shape you see, different from boats with two or more hulls.

Car

Nissan Skyline

The Nissan Skyline is a sporty car from Japan that was mostly sold there, so it can be hard to register in places like California.

Concept

JDM cars

JDM means cars that were originally sold only in Japan. People like them because they can be special or different from cars sold in other countries.

Car

Porsche 911 Turbo S

The Porsche 911 Turbo S is a very fast and fancy sports car made by Porsche. It has a strong engine with turbochargers that help it go really fast.

Term

charitable giveaway

A charitable giveaway is when a car is given away to help raise money for a good cause, like a charity. People usually donate money to enter the contest.

Term

manual transmission

A manual transmission means you change gears yourself using a stick and a pedal called the clutch. Many people like it because it makes driving more fun and gives you more control.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette

The Corvette is a fast and sporty car from Chevrolet that people like to improve with better parts to make it handle even better.

Car

Ford Mustang Boss 302

The Boss 302 is a special Mustang made for racing and driving on tracks. It uses an older type of suspension that can be tough on bumpy roads.

Term

solid axle

A solid axle means the back wheels are connected together on one strong bar. This can make the ride bumpier on rough roads.

Term

independent rear suspension

Independent rear suspension means the back wheels can move up and down separately, making the car smoother and easier to control on bumpy roads.

Part

Magnetorheological suspension (MagRide)

MagRide is a special kind of car suspension that can change how soft or hard the shocks feel while you drive, making the ride smoother and the car handle better.

Part

Tremec transmission

A Tremec transmission is a type of manual gearbox that is strong and used in fast cars to help change gears smoothly.

Car

Ford Mustang Shelby GT500

The Shelby GT500 is a very fast Mustang with a strong engine and a special manual gearbox called a Tremec.

Brand

Honda

Honda is a big company that makes cars and motorcycles. They are trying different types of engines, including electric ones.

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EV (electric vehicle)

An EV is a car that runs on electricity instead of gas. It uses batteries to power the motor and doesn't make pollution when you drive it.

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ICE (internal combustion engine)

An ICE is the regular engine in most cars that burns gas to make the car move.

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Parallel hybrid

A parallel hybrid is a car that uses both a gas engine and an electric motor to help it run better and save fuel.

Term

EV platform

An EV platform is the basic design that electric cars are built on, including where the batteries and motors go.

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The Envenitos welcome aboard as it were boy indeed welcome aboard ahoy pick your

Naval word. We're on a boat bitches the floating tire podcast

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But this is the smoke tire podcast to break from vacation podcast

We are at Marina key right now in the British Virgin Islands

and it doesn't look like it if you're watching us on video because I think that today has really this whole week has

Really made me appreciate the aerodynamics of yachts

Not just for the sailing and stuff like that

But like as it pertains to people's comfort cooling them and whatever using the wind because like if you go

Here it's like 20 miles an hour wind and actually it's it's relatively rough out there for this area

But this shot doesn't really show it because right here where we're sitting. It's very nice

Yeah, but getting here was a pretty windy experience. It was kicked up to like 20 to 25. Yeah, something like that

So forget forget today, you know, Zach and I went we went we went yachting

2017 with the Thailand

2020 went to Tahiti

We didn't get to do it last year but 2026. We're in the British Virgin Islands, which is where I went to camp the whitest shit ever

Um, you could say I colonized no

No, we went to camp

You know sailing camp down here and you and you lived and learned and sailed these 50-foot yachts that you rented

You didn't rent the camp rented from a place called the moorings and it's on tortola

and it's where we now rent these sailboats from and

I was like, what if let's go back and see it because there was a hurricane here Irma

There's still evidence of it. Yeah, just a couple years ago

I mean, yeah cause huge flooding buildings got knocked down, of course boats

I mean we we yesterday where we moored there was a beach

Yeah, desolate beach and we walked, you know 50 feet away into the the mangroves and there was a boat

Yeah, just a boat that was a large sailboat beach that had been

Harvested engine gone like sure all the useful stuff had been taken out of that boat

And it was just the carcass and on the on the beach was the mast

That's true. We saw the mast. I was like, I wonder what belongs to this

You know, we thought it washed up on shore

But the boat was there too and a lot of the old places that I went to as a youngster

Like the Bitter End Yacht Club and the Marina where this boat came from and this place

Marina Key and like a whole bunch of other places that just got completely wiped out and were rebuilt

To varying degrees of sort of modernity, you know, and now

It's it's very pop. There's way more boats here than there ever were

It's very popular. There's a ton of mooring balls places rather than open anchoring like there used to be

Places like the baths, which were pretty

Open 25 years ago are now very kind of amusement parky

Well, it's a lot more cruise ships. I was reading and that's contributing to some of some of the coral death. We've seen

Unfortunately, and that's not to say it's not cool. Like it's lovely here and the wind has been very strong

So actually we've gotten some really nice sailing

In the boat, which was this is called a leopard 46. It's a it's a big catamaran the I mean as far as like quality of sailing

They sort of suck. I mean, it's effectively like driving

To RVs side-by-side strapped like a cab over van, you know

Yeah, or yeah to RVs just it catches all the wind not the sails catch the wind

But also like this frontal area, but yeah, the coefficient of drag would be a hundred

It's like driving two buses at once basically

But it is very nice to live on

And if you're watching the video, you know, you can see the background, you know going back and forth

It's way better on this than it would be on a monohull boat even though those boats would sail better

Oh in terms of the rocking. Yeah, yeah, definitely like if you look at well those lean over, you know

When they when they say oh, yeah, do a little bit, but not that much

Yeah, you don't have to make sure that your dishes are all like locked up, you know on this boat most of the time

Which is cool. Yeah, it's an amazing way to see any area like this. Yeah. Oh, it's so special any I mean almost anywhere

Even countries that are like

Not all that amazing usually have pretty nice coastlines

You know like you can see you know like the thing about boating is it makes a pretty small place feel pretty big

You know like this with the sail we did that was like three hours today. It was like 20 miles. Oh, wow

Yeah, it's like not it's not far, but you go past three islands. Yeah, you know each one of them feels like their own world and

We tuck into this place we try to go to another place. It was too busy to get out of the wind

I mean, you know, we're kind of looking for parking spots

a perfect example of how how not far you go when sailing boats like this is

we first we left Tortolla we sailed to Norman Island

overnight and

Is our first stop in the middle of the night to the two o'clock in the morning our generator dies

Zach and I and Tim wake up and we poke around the generator like very sleepy, you know and

Quickly disarm that it's actually thrown its belt like there's like there's a shroud over it

So you can't see it immediately, but if you peek around enough you can see the belt is like shredded so

Alright, so no generator in the morning

I call like the moorings customer service and actually pretty good endorsement of them and they're like all right

Well, where are you gonna be for the next, you know 12 hours?

I'm gonna leave here, and I'm gonna go here great great. We'll meet you there and the guy comes over, you know

And and looks at it has a bunch of generator belts. So clearly this is a thing

Realize as he doesn't have the one we need was I gotta go back to base. I'll be back in 45 minutes, and I'm like

Bullshit and but like no he was he had a really fast fast, but we don't want took off

So he's you know he's the distance that we're sailing in days this guy's you know our entire week sailing distance is probably the service techs

Day their route. Yeah, that's right. Hey, whereas, you know if we did we've done any of our

Road trip stuff or off road trips. We often cover hundreds of miles multiple states and stuff like that hardly covering anywhere

Yeah, we're basically doing a lap around

Tortoll the islands the islands around tortola, which is a is a nice way to see the Caribbean gorgeous

Yeah, I've never been here before so it's nice. It's great stunning. Yeah. Yeah, the islands scapes are really fun

This the sunsets are really amazing

This boat is a nice place to live

But but you know when you get on a new boat that you haven't you know operated before

The first day it's like getting a new car like we get a new cars all the time

And if I'm in I if like man like normally you get in if press cars dropped off

You look sitting it for ten minutes and like set up your phone

Set your mirrors there

You ever get in a you ever have a car press car delivered and like you had to be somewhere

You just like how to get in it

Sure, you just jump in start going and then you don't know where the volume control is yeah

It's actually harder to do that like I'm in a rush press cars been delivered

I got somewhere to be got get in it put it in D

Like and now I'm like trying to like navigate through traffic

While setting up this other shit, you know what I mean and while do and it's like kind of like

Panicky, but with sailing you you can't do that like you can't figure out

How is the sail gonna go up until you put the sail up?

You can't figure out how it's gonna do certain things just like on the dock what's like what is the rate?

That this will steer yeah a car would steer you know

And so is the sail gonna go up smoothly and easily or not and is the I don't know so so many systems here

Yeah, the throttle like the throttle you have two engines on this boat

And one of them really you said responds very quickly to your the stick the other one doesn't that yeah

That's so if you have a great boat the two throttles will be exactly the same if you have a rental boat or an older boat or a

You know crappier boat if they may not be right and it's you could anyone can adjust like

Just like my dad's whaler there's the to have even acceleration with the two engines

The the the throttles have to be about an inch apart thumb

It's nice because your thumb if you put if you wrap your your right two knuckles around the right one

Operate the left one by pushing it with your thumb. It keeps it roughly in the right spread

It took me a while to learn that to get my hand set up to this one. It's fucking

This makes me never want to own one of the Z car minis

You know they had those twin engines in the back and that's great when it's perfectly tuned

Sure the day that it goes out a little bit out of sync

Yeah, and you can't have two feet on the gas sure

Well and the reason it really comes into play in a catamaran is because when you are

Docking when you're mooring or anchoring or whatever you're not steering with the wheel at all your ex the wheel is in fact locked

You're driving it like a like a tank and so if the engines don't respond the same

It's gonna take you a minute to figure that out and it came it came into play

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both the learning how to get the sales up correctly and and and

learning how to set up our mooring lines correctly and

Learning how to act effectively steer it tank style happened in like a 20 knot wind

the first night trying to anchor it's like

incredibly

tricky and

and and we had to

Get a little reinforcements from our buddy Nats captain. Oh, that's true

To help set up the mooring lines so we knew how to fucking do it, right? Yeah, it's all by fire for sure

They set up mooring lines on this boat differently than our last boat

Like we had we had like one big cleat on the last boat that you just threw the thing on and here you have to like

Make a bridle and like we just hadn't prepared for that

So we were trying to like figure out how to make this bridle while I'm trying to like keep it was just in real time

It was actually yeah, fortunately it's gone much better since then

As I said, we learned quickly because since then we've been perfect because we were so we're so paranoid about being that bad

Yeah, yeah, and now we're perfect and now like today coming over here

like we were coming we were going for a different anchorage and

We dawdled a bit and and the moorings that we wanted were gone

They're first come first serve and those were taken so we couldn't get that so this is a backup and

While that happened the wind really really really kicked up and we were like, oh, no like we don't we don't want to have

Not have a good safe spot when it's like really windy like this and

you know

I've never anchored this particular boat in

25 not wins. It's probably fine, but do I want to risk it's unnerving not early so

there's there's a

There's a company now since the last time we've gone boating called Boatty Ball

Which is a privately owned

mooring company and they drop moorings in public

popular places and

You reserve them online

I suppose like you would an Airbnb or something like that. I mean it's pretty easy

It's a pretty easy app other than it's not an app. It's a website that you do from your phone and

It's easy to book one

But but on the map that shows where the moorings are

It doesn't you I'm not on that map

There's no me overlay, right? So like as I approach the mooring field. It's like okay. Well your moorings here

But I don't know where you where you are, you know, so that so you it you can get an idea

But like for us we have we had to be like look at all these and every other boat who's come in here

It's been like is that number 19? I don't know

It's like if you use Google Maps to go to a restaurant, but I just told you the city block

It's on yeah and say in front of this door this door this door just kind of general area

It seems like for an app that's used exclusively for people on yachts

They should invest in a GPS over yeah

It's actually pretty amazing how

Useful Google Earth has become

for boating because you can see where the sandy spot is in the in the in the anchorage you can actually see

Your location versus like coral and sometimes even better than like the boat GPS

Yeah, it's really detailed in satellite imagery as long as it's up to date enough that like there hasn't been them, you know

Hurricane thing made a new beach or made a new sandbar or something like that right right right

But it man, this is this is the way to travel and and when you're captaining the boat yourself and doing yourself

It keeps your brain just enough engaged. I think like it you it does require

Like thinking and problem-solving and like real decision-making a lot

Speed that's kind of relaxing

Yeah, and then there's always like a 10-minute pocket of decisions where it's like

You know that your processor speeds up a lot, right? It's like just enough something and just enough nothing. Yes perfectly said

This is interesting because like right now the wind and the current are not at the same

Angle and that's why the boat was sort of going side to side

Sort of wish the boat would stay a little more straight into the current wind is shifting right now

Yeah, we're behind a coral reef, so it's breaking up the swells, but it's not stopping the wind

Screen went to sleep, but but we elected to

Be on a mooring here where it's windy

Rather than attempt an anchor in a strange place where it's a little less windy, but still really fucking windy

So safety first sometimes you know why safety first because our boat came off anchor in fucking Thailand

That's why that's why safety. It's really called safety deposit first

deposit first

No deposit no problem, right? The deposits on the TST MX that still exists

MX the did you see my did I you've seen my mirror MX? I'm very happy

Yeah, yeah, you really get to call them and ask for it, right? Oh look

There's that gold boat of bros we saw this morning the black and gold. Yeah, yeah

There's a tattoos and tans. Yeah, I'm calling that book dude. There's some really cool boats down here

I mean, there's obviously 80% of the boats are just these big fat charter catamarans like ours full of big fat

Americans like me in fact in most cases

Bigger bigger and faster

But some of the privately owned boats that are down here

I mean if your boat is like big enough for you to sail it down here for somewhere else

You know if it's a big yacht or a big catamaran or something that it's it's pretty sick

And you can tell when someone's like been from far away

Well, I talked to those people that sailed the Atlantic in their cat and their cat was only a little bigger than this one

Was that the one with the fabric? Yes, they sailed

No way. Yeah, that's pretty boss. You probably got to choose the right season. Oh for sure

Yeah, you can't take this in a big, you know winter ocean

Well, but there's there are a lot of people that do that like it's it's it's a very cool thing to do

But it's not that uncommon and with prep people can do it on Ebola like member was it

Wasn't it in Thailand where on the very last day we returned the boat

There was like a couple in their 60s on a boat like ours

It was a couple down the dock and they had like a bunch of fuel drums here

And we were like, oh, what's up with that? And she was like, oh, we just shuttled this boat

To to heat to Thailand from the British Virgin Islands. I was like, I'm sorry. What she's like

Yeah, we sailed it through the Panama Canal

Across the Pacific Ocean to Thailand carry 600 gallons of fuel. Yeah, and I was like and

What did you what like it was a her and her husband and they she was like we read all the books and

And we she said they motor sailed. She said they they ran the engines at

2000 rpm and for a month when there was yeah for a month and they had like, I don't know whatever it was

800 gallons of fuel and one of you know, one of the state rooms was like totally full of

canned goods and shit

And you know, they that and that was her job. Oh, you said they're gonna sell it. Yeah, no for the moorings

Yeah

Like because there's seasonal like, you know, you rent a boat six months in advance

They go someone's gotta someone's got to get one of these things over there

Sure

I thought they would just put a bunch of these on like a larger container ship and just

Well, they probably to the shipment. I bet whenever they come from because these are built in South Africa

I bet they come to wherever the Caribbean 20 30 at a time probably but like

You know, wow. Yeah, I see things, you know

It's like people that buy expensive van life vans and yeah when they're 60 and they just want to tour the national parks

Do it with a boat. Yeah, I get it. But yeah, I think they said it was a month

I would do that once but I want to be on a bigger boat for sure

Yeah, with someone who like really knows what they're doing and has done it 10 times. Yeah, that's what I would do

Yeah, but we saw it speaking of bigger boats, you know, we were at the bitter end yacht club, which is a cool spot

that's rebuilt after the

Hurricanes and they had these maxi class, you know racing sailboats there and they're about to have like maxi

Race week or something with 12 of these things

I mean imagine seeing 12 of these things racing like, you know, head to head across an ocean

Pretty cool. These books these boats are 75 to 100 feet long all carbon fiber all carbon everything carbon fiber big open decks

crews of like, you know 25 people and and they can go 25 30 knots

Huge boat going really fast, which we didn't calculate is like 50 60 miles per hour. Just no, it's 1.2

That was 1.85

Knots to miles an hour. Oh, that was knots kilometers knots to kilometers. Yeah. Yeah. No knots to miles an hour is 1.2. So

It was amazing to see them up close and

I guess the racing is probably going to be happening while this it's like now, right? It's like this weekend

Yeah, we left a couple days ago, but it's like pretty much now and uh, really cool stuff huge money

You can see it

You can the amount of carbon fiber on that thing the size of the boat itself the mass the

The you know two steering wheels and they had the big toolboxes like a race toolboxes are made of carbon fiber

Rolled out on the dock like almost like, uh, you know, like an MCA team or something has the toolboxes

Like all the things they could need. Yeah, it's like that

Awesome. Oh, there's the wind again

You're tax dollars at work

It's yeah

Sale boat racing in the bvi, right? Oh, man. Nothing says I'm like outside of like what I'm starting a space company or something

Like I'm I'm racing

Huge yachts

But wait didn't someone say that only one boat owner races their own yacht

The other ones just have keep them like race horses and they're like, yes

Yeah, win and then they get to hold the trophy and not only that they come down on their own

Super yacht to go out and watch the race from their yacht

While watching their other yacht

It's yeah, you thought I mean dude

You think you live you think you're rich. I don't

You're probably

Even you are probably global five percent or something

Oh, that's probably true, but you know, when you see that point

You know the point

One you're like what the fuck

It's I mean, I get you know, you can own a race team and they just and there's always like the team principal and they run the team

And they're they're on the boat effectively, you know the car analogy. Yeah

But I don't know it just seems like if you're so interested in the sport

And you don't have to be in the car driving it you could be on the boat

Oh, yeah, there's so many jobs on the boat

So like why not be there while it's happening and just let the Indians do the stuff

So like when I worked when I worked at footlocker back in the day

I was a really good worker. I was I was great at sales great with people. I put up numbers

I was like really good at selling fucking shoes

But it was always a little weird

Because I wasn't quite like the other people, right?

Whatever fine

So I've been trying to outwork that for a while. I can imagine what that's like

What that might be like if you're the team owner

But you're also like I want to be there, but I'm not good enough to skip or this thing

So I'm going to hire someone else to run it

And I'm going to be like a grinder or

Whatever, but there's going to be like two people in charge over me

But I'm also writing their checks like and you're not going to be as good at any of those like grinder

Whatever it's called deckhand thing because you don't do it that you only do it for your races. Yeah, they probably do it all the time

Yeah, so you're holding the team back while this 26 year olds like no good. Good job. Mr. Stevens. Yeah, that no

We we loop it the other way. There you go. Yeah, no, it's good

And then you gotta just go get his cash check

You're bad

Then you're back at the nice your yacht because you're sleeping on your yacht

Right and then they're sleeping in the belly of the racing boat on like ugly bunks, you know

Going

We could have fucking won that right. Yeah, if mr

If count von, you know

Count von coxman didn't need to fucking be a part of the team. We would have had a shot

Yeah, that's a tough thing. It's like with car stuff. There's a certain point the owner goes. I'm not going to race the car anymore

I'm not fast enough, but we could win this thing. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

At a certain point, you know

Ray Hall letterman racings hires other drivers

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But uh, I see both sides of it. But like no if you're if you're racing yachts and you're

Skippering the race yacht and it's your fucking boat

That's pretty boss. That is like I kind of I kind of respect that definitely, you know

That I respect that more than owning a race yacht that you're not

Same as if you were chief engineer of a race team, whatever series and so it doesn't even matter if it's imsa, you know

Gtd gt pro then like if you are the owner but also head engineer or team principal and like you have to orchestrate that entire team

From beginning to end and the effort that goes into it to then win something is enormous. Yeah, so pretty cool. Yeah

Uh, but I just the visual

Of watching the maybe the maybe they have a youtube channel. It's like, uh, it's like, uh north sound maxi week or something like that virgin gorda maxi week

2026 wait a minute dude. Look

Is that oh, I thought I saw like a dozen black sails, but it was just like a dark part of an island

See over there where that could be

It's the drugs. It's just the drugs. I'm just loose. All right

Uh, you know what I'm saying? Let's look like that. Huh? That does look like a sail

Doesn't that look like a whole bunch of tall black sails? I see one of them

There's also a lot of rocks, but there is one tall black sail over there

They're they're the boats are all carbon and the can these sails are kevlar and they're normally, um black or you know

Kind of gray. I'm not sure why there is a film called north sound maxi regatta 2025. Yeah, what fucking go check that out

I bet it's sick. That would be what a gig that would be to film master was the first race

It used to be cold. I mean they've raised to be the codex 24

And then they sold it

Yes, and then it was the tampax nationals, right?

That'd be so funny

Yeah, talk about a fucking the dope dopest class of boat with the with the weirdest

Sam name

Yeah maxi sounds it implies things that it's not

Not necessarily if they're big from the boats though

They're sweet

Huge, but it's like a crew of

You've got if you've got a big

Big giant yacht like of course you have a crew of 25 because there's like serving you food and all this stuff

You got one of these things you got a crew of 25. They do nothing but sail

Like they keep the boat clean and they sail it, but like they're not serving you, you know what I mean?

That's not like a luxury yacht crew. That's a racing crew. So the amount you have to employ the same number of people or more

And then you have to employ them other people on your other also like that dude

That's now you've got you got like 80 people just for essentially for you to jack off. What's like, uh

That's like a commercial jet, you know, let's a 380

So you've got pilot co-pilot. Maybe one of the person up there and then they've got I don't know staff of 10

Let's just say yeah, but you could be flying like one of those air force radar planes

Something we're basically the focus of the aircraft is so scientific or so

Ballistic that it requires lots of people just to fly the plane and operate the systems versus serving 400 people food sure

Fuck it's just like

But like just for yourself not for like government or science like just for you your own private

Yeah, just for you to jack off to my racing yacht, you know, that's crazy

Uh, but you know what's even crazier than that shit though

You really want to get down there is classic maxi yacht racing like, you know, like oh, yeah

You think it's expensive to race them all like try running a portion 917 for a season, right irreplaceable vehicle

So now you've got you've got these like what are called j-class yachts, which if you've um, which is like

Old america's cup from like 1910 where the boat is huge and it looks like a big like

Schooner like a fucking it's got like, you know, 19 sails on it. It would yes

And if you see one in a harbor like we saw them at newport, there's a couple of them in newport

They'll stop you in your tracks if you see one because they're nothing more beautiful has ever been built

To for purposes of sailing they're the the prettiest things ever made they probably cost

You know

Deep seven figures a year just to keep fucking floating right just to keep the varnish on the world

Oh my god polish and seal polish, but it's like at that point you're talking about like

Maintaining what is effectively irreplaceable art. Yeah

Well, we with the boat we saw the crazy pirate schooner in the bay yesterday two days ago like it's a it's a six year old

Right. No, it was a replica of a pirate ship. Yeah, it's a steel hull. Yes, but then has all the supermass all the big sails

Uh, it's called the some stod Amsterdam right? Yeah, and you could apparently charter it

You can like rent it and stuff, but that's the remake fucking black pearl. I mean, it's like it is a big pirate ship

That's the goodwood replica of the ferrari 250 lm

But they you you could go on their website. They had like adventures or something

They're sailing it across the ocean

That like you could sign up to do an atlantic crossing on that that would actually be kind of the shit

I would because then you get to watch these people sail a pirate ship across the atlantic

Yeah, but it's presumably safely. Yeah, that's a good point because a lot of those boats it sink

It's got it. It's got an engine. It's steel hull network. So it's not going to break apart. Yeah

um, but like this

I I I totally understand if if if cars become super sucky

I could get real heavy into boats

And it wouldn't be that hard. Well, someone asked the question not to jump ahead

But if we if we lived in a place like this

Would we keep our car enthusiasm going by owning a car? We just kind of move on to a different hobby

How absolute shit was the drive from the airport to to the marina? Yeah

It would not it was a twisty very bumpy road with lots of houses. So it was everything we don't like about a driving road

Yeah, um, I think if we lived in a place like this and I mean the islands literally the islands

We'd have to have like a couple dirt bikes and find a couple trails

Maybe do that and a sim racer. Yeah, that's that's that'll be my motor vehicle

Yeah, there's nowhere to drive. Um

If I lived I I was thinking like if I had to move to florida like if if hannah got some amazing job in miami

Or you know, whatever south florida. We had to move to florida

Obviously, it's very difficult to enjoy cars in florida

But if you have even a half these I could if I could sell 80 of the cars

And keep daily and like kuntosh and have a fucking sick boat and be on it every day

Boat life in south florida is what's up. Yeah, if you're in that club

Whole different stories. See you go sailboat though. Not super power boat. Not in miami. Yeah, miami. You don't want sailboat, but in here

Oh boy, that's scaring me

We're good. Okay, uh, but uh, but uh

Yeah here. Oh sailboat. Absolutely sailboat

I don't know if I can own one of these catamarans though. I think I'd have to have a mono hull

They're just too they're just much prettier. If you want to host people, this is the way to do it

Um, but I think to sail like the mono hull slips through the water and this is kind of like

It's twisting and moving and doing a lot of this stuff

There are you know in fairness the only catamarans I've sailed have been these rental ones. I've never sailed like a great

There there's a couple of these like like tim's obsessed with these performance catamarans

Uh, which I to me a performance catamaran is like the x5m

You know, it's like why yeah, it's fast for a catamaran. Yeah, like accept your fucking fate. Habibi. It's you know, but

I'm told that they can be they can be quite fast. I know and I know like, you know

There are some racing catamarans are insanely fast

But the market will always try to offer us everything so you go well

I like the mono hull because it's quicker

But the cat has all the space and someone goes and they build the thing and they go it's both

And you know asterisk. I just I the the aesthetic of a mono hull sailboat. It's just it's just too pretty for me

I would have to have one that really had

Uh, well thought out

Spacious deck because what the cat has

Is the the top, you know top deck

You know that that's kind of space that you don't really get on a lot of the mono hulls because they're just there's

Lines and then there's the pilot house or whatever. It's just yeah, you can't like use it

Right, so like but a really well designed one that has a big spacious deck is like about that

Uh, should we talk about cars?

Uh, yeah, everybody wants us to wow. This is a big plane. We should hold for aircraft aircraft

Everybody wants us to talk about the montana thing, right?

That's a big that's a heavy boy prop plane a heavy boy

Most of our anchorages and are not within

Ear shot of the airport, but no today was a beggars campy choosers day

Which I mean look where we are like if we have to listen to a plane every 20 minutes

Until sunset I can live with myself last few days. We felt so remote that when I heard a plane I got confused

Last night when dark

I was hoping tonight would be even darker, but no not here. No, not here

That was it turns out that is going to be the darkest and then tomorrow night. We're going to yostavon dyke

Which is not uh, not an edm dj

But an island that has a uh a lot of beach bars

It's party island. So

Uh, anyway cars

The montana thing right right everyone like like so many people sent me this finally finally

About about once every what two three years

uh some

politician or

Uh criminal justice employee

Does a little something about this

And uh, and it becomes news right in this case. It was some dealers that were

registering

Cars in montana for people that clearly did not live there, right?

So I mean the headline in rodentrack is that the california attorney general cracking down on montana registered super cars

They indicted 14 on tax fraud charges

The cars in this example are a 1918 spider a ferrari f12 tdf a mclaren elva

Among the vehicles that were you know illegally registered elsewhere, but only driven in california and all cars that could be registered here

That's the big thing because we've had

We've had some people dm us and say like well

It's probably because the cars can't be registered in cali you go no no no no no like that that's some of them

But I would bet the majority are people who are just skipping taxes

I saw the list of cars and I went oh no these are all

limited production but but but from big oems where the cars could be sold in california. Yes, absolutely so

Yeah, I mean so at the dealer level and because i'm a car dealer

I know this like you're you're responsible for collecting that sales tax if you know that car is going to be sold in in you know

in california

This came into play for me

With with my um

With my jdm cars as well because my jdm cars couldn't be sold in california. So I had to

Ship them to south carolina and to ship them back because like

That's how you because you can't register them in california like those the back of the skyline whatever

And that was the only way that the dealer would sell them to me

They would not sell them to me

To stay in california because they couldn't because it's on the dealer. So if the it's very difficult to prosecute a person

For driving a montana registered car. Why because the car is not registered to them

It's registered to some fucking llc

And you pull someone over on a montana tag and they go

Well, they can go. Well, it's not my car and if they're smart their name won't be on the insurance card

You know, it'll just be some business and not their fucking name

But like you it's hard to get someone on that unless you

Repeatedly the same cop repeatedly sees the same dude

So it's very difficult to prosecute that whereas if there are dealers that have a habit

are known for

Set registering cars in montana that they know aren't going there

Well, yeah, fucking start with them. That's it. That's a good place to start if you're gonna do enforcement

Sure, it's the bigger fish. Yeah, you know in california once the money like the tax revenue

They would get from these cars. Yeah, and then

And I don't know I get mad. It's for me. It's like a fairness thing

You see expensive cars the person clearly has the money to buy the car wants to live in california

Like pay the cost to be the boss. You know, uh, we see and then we see like new

Regularly complain about the shittiness of california one of my

And like look, I know that the amount of money that is probably being you know siphoned off or you know saved

Is not enough to fix all of california's problems

But if all you're doing is dodging taxes and then you complain about problems that could possibly be solved with money

Yeah, then like it just frustrates me frust that frustrates me to know it. Yeah. Yeah, so like

It'll be interesting to see if that if this is a sustained right push or you get your headline

Maybe they you know, maybe they scare a few dealers in line that weren't you know operating above board

And then we don't hear about it again for two years, which is what's happened by the way for the last 10 15 years

Oh, they're gonna crack down and then they and then fucking nothing nothing

Well, it's like, you know speed patrol by radar signs

So it works and it and it it works. It's the nudge. So it if you go after the dealers individuals who are doing this

Michael, oh, I should probably switch my into cali. I'll pay the taxes

Because I don't want to get in trouble and taken to court by the ag

So it works on the individual level through the knock-on effect

But they don't have to get prosecuted to have that effect right and

Hey, look if

If you've got an expensive car that can't cannot be registered in california like I I

Understand your plight. I really do

And like I'm not gonna individ you know, everyone's everyone's on their own adventure in life. You know what I mean, but like

I just you know, so I I

Okay, good. Yes. Finally. Someone's doing something. We'll see if it's sustained. I wish california

California has to recognize its place in the car world. I mean all these design studios are in so cal

manufacturers offices of all kinds like the influence of california and car culture

is huge, but I wish they had

avenues so that people like who had jdm cars could register them

You know if the new lentils law went forward like things that would help up people bring their cars to cali and then

If you also have a new ferrari that can absolutely be registered here like then, you know, go after them too. So

Just keep like build the systems to help people bring the cars here and then enforce the systems. Yeah, that should be enforced

Yeah, because you could

It's it's effectively the itunes model, right? Like oh people are pirating music

We'll make it easy for them to buy it

And they just will right right right if people are bringing gtrs here anyway

Help them do it get some money for the state. They're only like, you know 200 gtrs in the state like r34 is in earlier

Yeah, so, I mean obviously we support this

But we are taking a real wait and see one story and one big bust is not not enough of a of a change

Um, do you want to go to the patreon?

Is that it?

That's all we had. Oh, and then I mean this is a new a developing story

Dude, you didn't talk about the fucking 9 11 yet

Oh, yeah

We should move this to the front. We're so yeah, we should we'll take this to the front

We'll take the third part last. Uh, we don't have to do that. That's okay. Um, yeah, dude 9 11

We're giving away a 9 11 turbo s. This is crazy from a boat

From a boat. We're giving away this is 25 9 11 turbo s

optioned to hell. Oh, yeah to the heaven really. Yeah

Uh, very pretty car

Uh, and it is a it is a charitable giveaway charitable adjacent

And uh, they've done a good thing. We're partnered with dream giveaways. They've been around for a long time

They've done a ton of giveaways. They list like the

Uh, the registration numbers and everything for the charities. So you know that they're like legit

Um, it's it's not it's uh, it's it's a good thing. So it's very simple

There's not a lot of merch you have to buy. It's uh, it's a donation to the charity

And all the terms and conditions the eligibility all that stuff is on the website

But we basically took this car stock and we tweaked it a little bit

Not in a bunch of warranty voiding ways because it's a 275 thousand dollar brand new car

But in ways that make it like a little more to our liking

Set up for canyon driving

For fast touring. So uh, over the next three months, you're gonna see a series of videos on the youtube channel

Detailing what we've done with the car

And you can you can take it home plus to throw it in 75 k for the taxes

Not the state sales taxes the the income tax offset like right so you can uh, you know, if you if you win

The car it counts as income and they give you money to pay the taxes against them

So you can keep the car if you want you don't have to you

You're not like, holy shit. I got to sell the car to pay the taxes like you could probably keep the car

You figure this one out. Uh, but it's uh

Ridiculously fast. Oh my god. It's very pretty. Yeah, uh, it's very comfortable 18 ways

All the turbo s goodies glass roof glass roof

18 ways rear wiper, right? I love the rear wiper painted engine louvers

Very rare option look really nice gray metallic looks fabulous

Um, plus not to give it away, but

Some wheels some suspension, right? We did some things. We did a few things

Uh, so the link will be in in the show

Um, you know, obviously we we do earn some money from this so you're helping to support us

Um, and uh, and you could win with a car. I mean bread like an awesome car like

Extremely sick car like a car. You could drive for the rest of your life. Yeah, and in four seasons. Absolutely. Yeah

Magnus was just in the show. He's got a 200,000 mile one of these. Yeah, he bought it with 165

Yeah, now he's got over 200 on it. You could you could win this car and you could daily drive it for 20 years

Like easily people do that in 9 11 turbos like pretty regularly actually

I mean Magnus is a great example when I saw his car when he bought it

I went this is such a good idea and then he's got 40,000 more miles on it

Like you like I would truly love to just live with a turbo s for a very very long time

I'm very impressed at how in Magnus's car the leather is held up

You see how much fucking metal that dude wears on him?

He's got like studs. That's true. He's got like a skull

Buckle and all this all this all this stuff

His leather ain't tore up. That's crazy when he first bought the car. The passenger seat was pristine

Because no one sat in it. Yeah, the guy owned it. Just like what would he commute back and forth to vegas or something every week

Yeah, he was like a sort of traveling long, you know salesman who just drove long distance all the time

So his seat was like worn in but not torn or anything and his seat looked brand new

Fabulous. Yeah, I mean I love that life. I'm not sure

I mean if anyone could do it Porsche could do it and I didn't sit in that seat, but like

I their their seats tend like the mod of the 18 ways like they tend to hold up pretty well over time

I think anyway, I mean my

Tycon seat like doesn't feel like worn in all weird even it was only 25,000 miles

Can we just can we talk yet about what where we took the car or should we save that?

Like where we drove it

Oh, okay

Save that. All right. Make them fucking wait dude. You build the suspense

Roll it out along with the videos. There's gonna be four videos about the car

So watch for those shots of the car what we did with it where we took it etc etc

And uh, there'll be a link in the description of this show

To enter to win some and then also the about page from dream giveaway

If you want to see the charities they work with and all the other stuff the how it works, etc

I am I'm pretty stoked for this one. Someone's gonna win a fucking narshty car

And we've been the only watch I brought on this trip is the

Uh, bros and ferry think I call it. Uh, it's very good. Very good. Uh notice canyon. I've gone to the ocean with it

Saltwater every single day. It's great. The new clasp has not uh, not come off not come loose

It's very very comfortable and uh, these are going to be going on sale really soon

But it has passed. Uh, it's past the ocean earring test. Yeah so far. So i'm very excited about that

Your clasp outlasted my whoops clasp

Oh, Zach lost his Zach lost his whoops

They sell a uh, like a diving version of that clasp of that brace that get it. Yeah, lose your whoop. Yeah, that's a bummer

We're gonna have to get another one of those. Oh, is our is our neighbor coming in?

Another catamaran coming in pretty hot that person must be anchored right that guy's anchored. Yeah, I'm not I did

I mean respect, but I'm not anchoring just make your own parking spot sometime

I mean that you can and and

Someone out there who was a very experienced yachtsman is gonna be like you fucking pussy

You won't anchor and fuck you won't anchor in 25. Just do it seven to one, bro. You're fine with seven to one, but like

Uh, it's a rented boat man. Like I don't know it's like we last time we did this was six years ago

Last time we did before that was three years before that

Yeah, so if we took that person on racetrack and they never been on a racetrack

We're just like just break at the two board, dude

You can do it break trail break off. Just make sure you roll on perfectly. Otherwise you hit the wall

They're gonna be like what? No, I'm breaking it to five. So no, you're totally right. Yeah, you're totally right

Although I mean we did we did see some speed in this thing on day one

In like 20 18 to 20 knots of wind on a broad reach. We saw 9.4 at one point

And then today a lot of wind it was like 20 to 25 miles an hour

Flying dead downwind with just the jib. We were going six and a half to seven pretty steady

Which is like pretty for a fat 46 foot boat like this. This is good

Um, should we get to the questions? Sure

Before we get to the questions

Should we judge our neighbors uh more in parking jump? Yeah

I'm sure everybody was judging us. First of all, the poll is not extended yet

Oh, boy. It's not really ready mooring 29. Oh, they're going further in. No, they're no, they're probably going here

This dude's coming in hot dude. This guy's so hot. It's gonna stretch down

Wow. Wow. Wow. You can overshoot this buddy so far

Oh, oh my god, he's gonna. Oh, he just he slams on on the brakes

All right, they got it. Did he really? Yeah

Wow, dude hockey stopped that. He did he really did. Wow. They went from like five to zero and like 50 feet

That is

aggressive, right

Maybe we have something to learn

I like our method. I I like to I'd rather approach slowly

I like to approach docks because if they had overshot it if that guy hadn't hooked it right then

Then the you know the ball's in the middle. This guy is he's using he's using a lot of

Is he on by the way or did he miss?

Uh, they're on but only with one

Oh, oh, you know what? Fuck this. Fuck this. We gave this guy a lot of credit for some move

And by the way, what has he done? He's cocked it right up hasn't he?

We put yeah for people listening

He's supposed to get two different ropes on the mooring ball and they've got one on but now the ball is

But now the ball is like way off the side and behind them and now they're watch your fingers. This guy's

What do you think is oh boy

What you're gonna let go sir let go sir let go. Yeah

I've learned that too. I'm like, I'm not strong enough to hold this giant book

I only judge other people because I

Know for a fact that they're judging me because we had that our first night was in front of a crowd

And it wasn't great. I was gonna wipe your uh camera off a little bit, but I was it's much I'm tethered

I think slightly but only slightly. Let's fix it. Give it a little give it a little what have yous?

Is it humidity a little bit of the old houses you're following

Was it gotten worse? Oh, it's okay. Oh, you know what you have the mat

What's it called? Oh, that is better. Is it okay?

Anyway

Here we go. How's our how's our neighbor doing are they they're on oh, they're on there. Okay, cool. All right

We were better

Not our first day

Not our first day, but I didn't come in at five knots right that was humming dude

You got to approach that shit slow. It's a big boy sneak up on it. That's a 54 dude

He captain ron that thing

Captain ron's by the way his docking technique

This is very difficult very ballsy, but was

I haven't seen that movie since it came out. Oh, I watched it last week in preparation. You were training. Yeah

Um, all right, they'll get out of your way learn that driving the saratoga

All right, let's go to our patreon question

Yeah, let's do it if you want to ask questions on the podcast get your question answered get card advice all those things

Go to patreon.com. Look at you this whole entire podcast. Look at you. Well, you have boat adhd right now

It's good though. You're relaxed. I just want to I just want to

Judge others like I feel I've been judged

It's not too much to ask clap. I was nice. I was so happy that when the captain came to help us

He was just like let me give you a hint. He wasn't like you fucking moron

So no it's really funny because like we get down here

And we're in the lobby waiting for our boat to be ready and who walks in

My friend nat mundi who I've known for 20 years

He runs hk motor cars in canada get they sell race cars and weird cars glicking houses and ssc's and random cars

You can't buy and not random in a bad way, but like exotic cars. You can't buy in regular dealerships

He sells the new stuff nick cage would buy

in uh gone 60 seconds, right? Yeah the chimeras

Stuff like that. So he just walks in with his wife

They were getting on a boat same day. They got a captain

And so we don't have a captain and so we end up

Doing our terrible fucking mooring job the first day right in front of him and his captain

And uh, they were like, uh, you need a little need a little assist and I was like a little assist is okay

So they he got us right set us up with our with a bridal technique that served us very well

Yes, since that we've used his techniques since but like these fucking jimmy buffett ass mother fuckers next to us

We're cackling dude a straight cackling and so now I I don't feel bad

About cackling myself. I just it's like I didn't I wasn't that into hazing the next round of people in the fraternity

Some people after having been hazed. Yeah, we're like they're really into it. Oh, dude

Nobody abuses like the abused nobody

That's so dark and true

And so some people just couldn't wait. I was like, this is this is a little sadistic

Yeah, they were like really excited to have the power trip and for a lot of them

They were like, I'll never win a fist fight so I can tell these people what to do

But when it comes to anchoring and mooring and things like that, I will judge. You know what interesting fraternity story

One guy was an ass to all the pledges

But the one he didn't give shit to is my friend my dear friend chris bosward who was in the wedding party with you

Because tris knows jujitsu and knew it in 2001 and everybody knew that and they're like, no, we're not gonna

Not gonna make fun of him

Yeah, that shows you how uh weak that particular fraternity guy was. Yeah, uh, all right to the people enough about us

All right yawning run gmc says

Would you rather have an air conditioning system that keeps the car cool enough just below the level of uncomfortable?

Or a gas gauge that never reads properly

And an uncalibrated odometer so you always run out of gas half a mile from a gas station. Oh, I go ac

Yeah, ac I can live I've had cars with no ac that I'll live I don't want to push the car half a mile every week

We had the the the the the copper cobra

The copper cobra had no odometer and no fuel gauge and a five gallon fuel tank

How is that it's like a drag race car it's not even a road race car. No, it was uh for one lap of america

Oh, so they make it but well

All right, so for the track time you have the lightest tank. No, I think they swapped the tank after one lap of america

It was I think for just like a track days and autocross and shit very brief track day. Yeah

In a cobra you're getting what five miles per gallon. Yeah, let's say seven and be nice. I mean

Yeah, I couldn't tell you I still couldn't tell you that's wild it might have got 25 miles a gallon. I don't know

I couldn't tell you

Six speed weighs 100 pounds. Yeah, absolutely. All right, good point 200 pounds. All right

I don't I have no idea what the fuel economy was. I never ran out

Um, all right. Jay Leno's clapped out kia amanti is planning a road trip with his friends and wants to know what tips you have

To create a multi-day enjoyable drive. He knows how to find roads. That's not the question

But what other elements do you look for when you're planning a route?

Well

Once you've found the roads

Then it's about finding shit to do in the places that you stop

Which is usually Hannah's job, but

Yeah, I mean making sure that like you're giving yourself time to like find shit

Like oh, there's oh, I see a thing that looks interesting

Well, yes, I have time to stop and check that out. Oh, there's a

You know, uh, when you you know, I've got to the hotel at two o'clock

What do I do with the rest of my day? You know, maybe it's a hike. Maybe it's a whatever like

Like if you're just in the car 12 hours a day, you're not going to do anything else

But we don't like to drive more than 200 miles a day anymore

Because we like to have like at least part of a day doing something a walk

Shopping like we eat whatever the fuck, you know, so it's like once you found your roads that it's about

Making sure that you have like things to engage you once you're like no longer in the car, right?

Um the swinging tire

If we had a second podcast that was around a specific theme yaw thing it would be about yawks. All right

Yeah, would it be yawts?

It would be such a great excuse to just go out on people's yawts

So how did you afford your yacht? What is your next yacht?

That's how you maximize vacation right off. Oh, we could be such assholes. Yeah. Yeah

I mean politics is attractive, but so complicated and perilous like you need to be really like

You need a research team like john oliver cell. I think we're so dangerous to get pulled into the different pools

so that would be interesting but

I don't know. I think I could do on on extreme sports stuff. That's like that would interest me again

Uh, all right randy you're out. At what point does a boat get too big for it to be reasonably fun to sail?

And what's the largest boat you've sailed

Largest boat i've ever sailed was a

Mono hull was a 54

I've never sailed anything bigger than that

Length doesn't necessarily make a boat less fun to sail

with ken

When a boat can point close to the wind

That's usually what makes it nice to sail and if it like

If you can steer it without a bunch of like effort and like kickback like it like boats have steering feel like cars

And good steering like I bet those racing boats have amazing steering feel

Um, wow, this has absolute garbage the steering feeling this is a heinous

Uh, this is like jeep wrangler. Just lots of lots of turns, but not a lot of response

Wrangler steering. It's terrible

What was the question about fun boat? How big can it be before it stops being fun? I mean anything over like

50 55 it starts to become real tricky to take out by yourself

Yeah, and I I don't want a boat that's so big. I can't take it out by myself

And then you can't relax for a bit while you're out by yourself. Yeah, yeah

Um from head gas gets unworthy. By the way, this is a that's a real like how how big is use your boat when it's too big

Like that's a real 20 20 question. You need a team

Um, do we think manual transmission consumer level cars will hold their value better than automatic counterparts?

For example, this person drives a 2019 cross-track with a manual and love that. Yeah, that will for sure. Yeah

I think stuff that has

Some kind of enthusiasm behind it cross-track does it does so when you have that and you add the manual

It's like the uh, what was it the honda element the manuals. Yeah, you all drive like hard to find

Good systems capable of a lot of stuff. Those were popular

Um, all right, this is a long one remember the supercharged element

They made that stock. I thought that was like something made for sima wasn't that it sc wasn't supercharged sc

Or was that just uh, did I make up that that was a thing? I thought that was a thing pretty sure that question's too long

Have we considered having james pump free on we've I've dm'd him. I don't have a relationship with him, but I don't I

I would ask him. I don't know him that tag him on his instagram tell him to come on the show

Do do

Matt what car would your cats drive based on their personalities from zen?

Well, that's interesting cricket would drive a garbage truck

cricket cricket is

Is the most food motivated cat ever she's like she's a garbage dumpster. So she would drive a garbage truck

Nikki would be like a white is a real white jet a girl

Finn is like a bronc would be a bronco using a meathead

Monty would ride would be hitchhiking on in the back of a pickup truck. Nice, which which he did which he did

Um, this is pumpernickel country day school

That's great

Does the appeal of mid-engine dynamics carry through to lower end offerings like the mr2 the 96 etc

Yes, when now is it better one can can compare to similar money in corvette z's stuff like that

Like you get more power from a front engine car, you know, well from from for the same money

Right, but well, they just they're not, you know, you know this they're not comparable

Um, I mean the for the 96 is a much nicer thing to drive the interior is nicer

It feels more solid in every way like it's got better curb appeal. I think the corvette's just faster and louder

Yeah, but the interior looks like it's made of plate from like play school play sets. Yeah now corvette dynamics are good too

But they're like a specific kind

um, I do think mid-engine

cars are

worth

The premium for their mid-engine is most of the time

The higher performance the car the more it's worth it. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I agree

If it's a real like the third gen mr2 if it's kind of slow like you can feel

You have to be more tuned into the dynamic to really feel the benefits. I think yeah to be excited by the car

How much is one of those now? I don't know what an mr2 cost, but it was $15,000. It's like it's not expensive, right?

Probably less probably less, right?

That's like your cheapest mid-engine car

And they're still pretty good

Like their baseline of of like where what is the jumping in point to this is pretty good

I think the the lower cost mid-engine cars are going to be finesse machines

Whereas like a $15,000 corvette is a sledgehammer. It's got a good dynamics too. Like you can put good suspension on it

But yeah, the the initial experience when it's stock is loud fast and kind of brash

Yeah, and that's what you get from Mustangs for the same price

My leaky valve gasket, uh, I want to purchase a second car to take the tracks around the chicagoland area

For around 45 grand. I can get a Mustang mach 1 or a boss 302 that has 10 grand in upgrades

Will the upgrades be that much more worth it over a better interior ride?

To and from the track in the mach 1. All right, so modified boss 302 versus stock Mustang mach 1

The key word is chicagoland

shitty roads man

I know if you live somewhere with smooth roads the boss 302 is really a gem

but it is the end of the solid axle cars and

There's a lot you can do

To make them really amazing

But you really can't make them like better on bad tarmac compared to an irs and the mach 1 is like

Settled great car like mag ride

Settled, you know, like it's basically the Shelby without the engine

Yeah, um and with the Tremac, right? I don't think correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe a boss 302

I think a boss 302 got a got the get drag. I don't think it got a Tremac. I don't I don't think

Any Mustang of that era

outside of the gt 500 got a Tremac

Uh, right? I'm looking

We have very shit internet here. I mean, we I can't believe we have internet at all, but we have it's slow

Um asking Zach to look things up for the show is a

potentially

I mean, I think either way this person needs to be very honest about how often you're tracking your cars

If it's primarily a track car, I'd probably go boss 302 because

What I'm what I want from the car starts when I get to the gate of the track

Sure, and I deal with what the roads on the way there seems like a gt3 rs owner, but if you're really

You know if patreon person their patrons really just going to go to the track three times a year

And spend the rest of the time in the back roads or driving around you want you didn't want the muck one sure

Um, it's the death of the american sedan a hindrance to organized mob killings

It becomes much harder to hide a body in a trash bag in the back of an outback or a similar crossover

Given the decline. What is the best reasonably priced car with a spacious trunk available? But doesn't the

It's the tonneau covers though, you know you've are the what do you call it the luggage covers the things that you know

I mean they're attached to the hatch and they go up like

They're optional, but they're there

You could still hide a body in the back of a wagon or an suv or a crossover as long as it's got the

Luggage cover option and as long as it's not smelling too much

You can get pulled over

Oh, I was not gonna hide the smell that's a good point

But if that shit is like smelling you're gonna have you got a couple of problems

So what is the biggest car biggest trunk of a sedan on sale effectively? Is that the question? Yeah, probably an ls, right?

probably the

Alexis es maybe that that's like a fucking that's a car meant for hoobers, you know nes is where it's at

How about

I mean you could say a very base like s class Mercedes maybe it doesn't have any of the fridges or non hybrid stuff

Yeah, non high a tall trunk, right?

Uh, I haven't measured the trunks of sedans to be honest with you

That question to me can be answered is just like what are the largest sedans on the market? Sure

But it's a fun way to ask but I don't I but I don't uh, I mean I I agree the mob is going to have some problems

With that. Yeah

Um, bmw blinker delete. I'm interested in a bronze diving watch

Other than the Tudor black bay. What other brands would you recommend?

Bronze is interesting, uh, oris makes a bronze. That's pretty cool. I think it's a black, uh oris diver 65. I think in bronze

Uh, the Tudor is is really kind of the best one unless you wanted to

Unless you could find yourself a panorai bronzo

Um, if you wanted something cheaper than the Tudor

Um, the aftermarket, uh does have you sorted. I uh, there's you can get a bronze

Case for a seiko. You could do a seiko turtle or a seiko

dive watch in bronze

Um custom. I mean aftermarket, but yeah, carl had one like that. It was pretty cool. Um

Who else does a good bronze that I know of? Hmm

I'm sure somebody does bronze is really interesting because like it it like tarnishes

Like it turns colors and gets like crusty and like that's not for everybody

You know like and you kind of

When you can sell it, but like not a lot of people are like trying to get

Your your your tarnished bronze later

Um, I thought I liked the bronze for a minute, but it's heavy shit and like

If you got a full bronze bracelet, it's really heavy

But if you don't get that it becomes very top heavy. Oh, so it's a lot

I thought I wanted the the panorai bronze which was carl had that shit and I put it on it was like

Like all my wrists were just like boom and just flopping down always

That was why I made a big deal with this watch for having the weight be very even around the wrist

It's very important to like not be like tweaking your wrist one way or the other. Um

but like

Yeah, I for me if you're gonna go bronze, it's the tutor or the panorai

But the oris diver 65 is pretty cool. Also. Yeah oris makes a nice one. That's uh

Uh, james may was wearing the oris pointer date when he came to to visit us lovely much

Uh, david ruddock. Um, we've seen the news that honda is basically throwing in the towel on evs at least in the us

Do we think the japanese oems are better off focusing on ice and uh parallel hybrids right now and waiting to see how the ev market shakes out

Or is this something where we look back

As uh, the end of the sorry we look back on as the beginning of the end for japanese oems

We're in all the honda evs on market and accurate evs on the market

Really other platforms like gms

Oh, um, that's true. The honda one and the zdx are both the gm ev platform, right same as catalac lyric and the

Yeah, they

Leased gms tech right yeah ltm stuff. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. So

No disrespect, huh? Yeah, it's a good point people coming back. No, no, that's a great point

No, yeah, maybe they had to sunset their ev program. I mean like

Yeah, or maybe like I mean they just

Yeah, they maybe they were trying to like

You know

Maybe they pulled a very smart move

Or not smart, but but but definitely like a move that paid off where they

Leased this tech and did a wait and see before investing huge amounts of their own money

To see which way the wind blows and the wind has blown the other way. Yeah, our patron missed a uh an important detail

Which is that yes kia honda and hunday are canceling their

Us ev models, but so is gm. Yeah, and so if you're getting your your tech from gm and gm cancels it

You know, I guess I'm canceling the plan too. Yeah

that uh

That all

Lines up just like a 46 foot cat heading in a mooring

Where's this dude going?

It's caught in it tight on the reef is a little very

Um ram cini says I live in montana and I blew a tire my way home from the ice race

I have a Volkswagen all-track I put on 19 inch wheels with tiny tires

My question is do I keep the cool wheels and risk blowing another one or swap to a smaller rim bigger tire combo?

And the roads there were pretty smooth like the tarmac in montana is pretty good, but I always like more sidewall

I mean 19's on an all-track is a lot of rim, but wait, but

Did he did he say that he blew the tire because of sidewall?

I think they I think this person blew the wheel

They didn't say how it happened

But based on the context the wheel or or blew a tire blew a tire blue tire

Probably because the sidewall's too small and they need something possible

Uh, I mean, yeah, look, I'm I'm I have a tycon cross turismo and I went from 20s to 21

So I am not going to throw stones in a glass house of putting bigger rims on a car that's meant for

Whatever gravel or something, you know, but

Depends on your environment, you know, yeah, no, I mean given the fact that you're in montana

I mean, maybe you do want to go back to the oe size, you know

Came in

Oh, yeah came in my sock says this pen question

What would you recommend for a left-handed person in need of a pen that doesn't cause annoying friction you get from a ballpoint?

When the ball rolls into the edges of the pen point

Which is some real

enthusiast stuff

So I don't like your left-handed pens. There are I've never paid attention to them

Which like sometimes the clip or whatever is like a different on a different way around

I've never used a left-handed pen intentionally

I probably couldn't really tell you what what was about

but

Okay, then reduce the friction of the ball in the ballpoint

Is that what I'm talking about?

Mm-hmm

So like

You could start by maybe not using a ballpoint pen. Is that I don't know if that's a like a dick move

But to say something like that, but like a like a gel pen

Or a different type of a cartridge based fountain pen, which is what I like a lot

Cartridge based fountain pens have like no friction. They're so they're so light

Um, and gel pens are lighter to me than ballpoint though

Has that died? Yep. Oh, no

Oh, no using audio processing software. Oh, no, really?

These were full batteries too brand new brand new full batteries you

Know that's fucking terrible. I'm gonna be using more battery. Well, all right. Well, well, it doesn't feel hot

All right. Well, we'll have to wind this one down. Okay, we'll just wind it down at the the very end of the program

Thanks for listening for our our vacation show the as you can see the audio recorder

Is off

It died at some point and we will have to see when that is but you will know before we do

Um, we'll be back in the studio next week. Thanks for joining us from our floaty boaty here and uh

Go enter to win this Porsche do that in the meantime

The link will be in the show notes and uh, we'll talk to you soon. Bye

About this episode

The hosts share their experiences sailing a Leopard 46 catamaran in the British Virgin Islands, discussing the challenges of boat handling, mooring, and the local sailing culture. They reflect on the impact of hurricanes, the rise of charter boats, and the appeal of both catamarans and monohulls. The conversation shifts to car topics, including California cracking down on Montana-registered supercars to prevent tax evasion, and a charitable giveaway of a modified Porsche 911 Turbo S. They also answer listener questions about car and boat advice, watch recommendations, and automotive trends.

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Original notes

We're on a boat! What's it like? What did we get wrong? Would we still car if we lived here? What's happening with Montana car registry vs California? Why is Honda abandoning EVs? And Patreon questions include:

This vs that: A/C that doesn't work or a car that runs out of gas?

Track toy: Mustang Mach 1 or Boss 302?

What second podcast would we make?

Will boring cars that have manual transmissions hold their value?

Which cars would Matt's cats drive?

Are cheap mid-engine cars still special compared to cheap front-engined cars?

Does the mob miss sedans?

Bronze watch recommendations

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