Body Counts

Good evening Bill. Good evening Stanley. Hello listeners. Welcome to the BS Car Guys podcast. I'm your host Bill Cranford with my other host Stanley and I'm battling off some run Ron Kytus. So please forgive my off voice or any coughs that I don't mute fast enough.

I think you should do all of that over again and use the deep voice that you were using before we started recording because that's what you said you were going to do and you're a man of your word.

No, I'm good. Well, I'll throw it out there though. So you're not a man of your word. No, you're not going to do what you said you were going to do.

Tonight I'm a man of few words because I'm trying to save my voice but I'll just throw this out there. Ladies and gentlemen, sit back, relax, put on the BS Car Guys podcast and let us tell you a load of stuff you probably don't care about that's somehow related to the automobile.

See, I mean, see you are a man of your word. Look at you. You used the Barry White. I guess that's the only person I can pick up right now.

The Tion Downing, for those who I know, voice the voice of Paris Island.

The voice of Paris Island.

I could have done one of those in a world ruled by hybrids. One podcast dares to make a statement.

Electricity sucks by gas.

I don't think that's what we, the statement that we make, but okay.

That's the statement we just made just now.

That's the official record right now.

Yeah, that's it. That's the official one.

Okay, cool. I guess that is the official record in a world with too many hybrids.

One car rules them all coming this summer, the smart car in Stanley's driveway.

Definitely not. You know, our predecessors probably would have made that same statement about there being too many four cylinder cars.

For sure.

But yeah, so anyway, yeah, so Bill is struggling tonight with his voice.

So you get to hear my unsavory voice a little more, maybe.

But so the plan is for us to talk about body counts, not body counts in a bad way.

The people who had that thought in their head, you know who you are and you need to go to church Sunday.

That's right.

We're going to talk about body count a little bit.

As outcast once said, you need to get up and go to church.

Yeah, yeah, you do.

Outcast probably said that a few times, but anyway.

And so body count from our perspective is our car count.

And for me, I did not go as in debt as my data analytics.

Mine probably wanted me to go because I try to catch myself now.

But we're still going to talk about it.

And then we may talk about a couple of new things that popped up and like Bill has.

Did you give yourself a spreadsheet?

Absolutely have a spreadsheet.

I am not that I'm not cured at all.

I am I'm just recognizing the fact that I have a disease, but I am not cured.

The medicine isn't working as well as some people would like it to work.

I was I was at work today and a guy asked me, I put a look, I put a little works spreadsheet together about some sports stuff in my little free time.

Why they were doing something else is like, did you do you put everything into a spreadsheet?

And I looked at him and said, yes, yes, because that's the way God intended it to be.

You know, we may hit the card as in Bill's background a little bit.

And then you go to like a word anonymous.

What would it be?

It'd be Excel office office anonymous.

And you'd be like, hello, my name is was only Stanley and it's been exactly four and a half hours since I've spread sheeted.

Yes, since I've created a new one.

But it wouldn't be office anonymous because there's some parts of office that, you know, we have issues with.

And they're right.

They're rightly get rightfully getting rid of because, you know, no one, no, even though access is an awesome program, no one used it.

So they get rid of it.

Anyway.

So yeah, we're going to talk about body counts.

And so say how this is Bill's idea.

What does your body count come up to?

So it was less than I thought it was going to be less.

Yeah, what would you like to take a guess at my body count.

Only if you take a guess who has a larger body count.

You have a larger body count.

Okay.

I was okay.

I'll guess and I will say 14.

Tell him what he's won.

You've won an all expense paid trip to come visit me you lazy bomb.

You got you get you got it exactly right.

Because I'm amazing.

You are amazing.

You are a special creation who knows me almost too well.

So it's full transparency.

14 is the number of cars that I've owned in Japan.

Because we have to have our Japan reference.

14 came out to the number of cars that I own while I was in Japan.

What I own them.

I drove it for a look.

I may have not may not have owned it for that long, but I drove it at least

for a little while and then maybe just went on to sell it.

But it was in my name and I had to put insurance on it.

So it's mine.

It's kind of sad.

Very, very.

So, so then I'm going to guess that your body count is 22.

You are not.

Right.

Okay.

I was going to say you're not the father, but that didn't make sense.

But anyway, that's a different game show.

I don't know that that was a game show.

It might as well have been because that's what it turned into.

That's true.

The prizes weren't as good.

Definitely not.

But you definitely had to pay taxes.

You did.

Yes, you did.

And you probably had to get insurance.

So what was your body count total?

My overall body count total was 30.

30 with 14 in Japan alone.

I actually listed all the cars.

One car I do not have a make a model for because I just cannot remember.

I think we spoke about it before.

I just called it the sweet pickle bus because that was my reference point.

Sweet pickle bus.

I thought we agreed that that was a Subaru.

What's that little van called a Subaru.

When you go to Japan, you will realize that every car company that you ever heard of, plus seven that you've never heard of, all make the same that same deal.

Okay.

So, yeah, that's the only one I didn't list make a model and around about a year of it.

And so, yeah, 30 was my number out of your 14. How many of them were manuals?

One, two, three, three.

I'm at 10.

Look at you.

10. I did not realize that that was the most surprising number.

I was surprised at 30 and I was surprised at 14 because I knew I had a problem in Japan that the only cure for was to leave Japan.

But I didn't realize I owned that many manual cars back then because throughout my history, maybe because I didn't own some of them for that long.

But it just, yeah, 10. That was the most that was actually that's not the most surprising number because the most surprising number is around about how much I pay for them.

So, yeah, so let's get into I want to kind of do a couple of things.

What's the what's the oldest car you like owned, not not relative to the time you bought it, but as far as year making model, what's the oldest car you've owned?

Um, so I have two answers.

And the reason why it's two answers because I do not know the exact year for some of the cars in Japan.

So I'll say 1986 1987.

Okay.

And, and you got your license in what year?

1993.

I think it was.

Okay.

So let's say a six to seven year six to seven, six to seven year gap from from your oldest car to your license.

Yeah.

Okay.

So my oldest car is a 94.

And I got my license in 96.

So only a two year gap relative to my license of being able to drive.

So our follow up question for that is when did you own that car?

How far removed from you getting your license?

Did you own that car to two more years?

So when I was 18.

So because my for sure 1987 car was the first car that was in my name.

Nice.

And I thought about putting my mom's 85 Mustang Alex on there, but it was never in my name.

So I left off of this.

Yeah.

I didn't.

My first car was my Saturn because I didn't count any of the cars I drove that didn't belong to me in high school or middle school or learn to drive in fifth grade.

I mean, if we do, if we were going to do that, the oldest problem would be 1971 El Camino 454 big block.

Yeah.

1968 Volkswagen Beetle.

Yeah.

See, this is how we know we have a problem because we would we remember specific things about all all the cars that we want.

Oh, oh yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

So newest car you've owned.

2013.

Not 2013.

2023.

I apologize.

2023.

That's right.

You're Mazda.

So, and of course, my newest being the F 250 as a 2025.

Okay.

So now this is where it's probably going to get pretty skewed because you got 30 fricking cars to divide it out.

Yes.

What's your average price you paid for those cars?

Oh, oh, average price is seeing how I have an Excel spreadsheet.

This is very easy.

Well, when you have 30 cars, you need a spreadsheet.

Exactly.

Average price was $9,683.

That is ridiculous.

I bet you those 10 cars or whatever in Japan probably really skew that number, but true, true.

If I was just if I was just doing Japan, it would be the average price would be $1,007.

Yeah.

And if I was just doing the states, it would be give me one half second.

It would be 17,275.

Okay.

That's closer to my average then.

So of my 14 makes my average price $19,750.

Hmm.

See, we always knew you were, you know, kind of, you know, you had the aspirations of being in the income bracket that you're currently in.

I mean, I feel like $19,000 average price for vehicles pretty darn cheap.

It is pretty cheap, but it's higher than mine.

So you're the rich kid.

Okay.

Fair enough.

So speaking of average, talking about prices, how much in total do you estimate to pay?

Because this is scary for me.

You mean if you add them all up?

Yes.

Oh yeah, I did that math $316,000.

And I translate that as to say exactly one 9-11 GT3 touring manual.

One.

So my total number came up to $290,590,500.

So again, you are the blue blood of the group again, because you know, I mean, I guess you just like spending money, you know, evidently.

So, of that list of your list, maybe not your favorite.

What is your favorite car on that list?

Your font and the car you had to find his memories of.

Um,

No, I don't think so.

And the reason I said that, because I was looking when I, when I did my list.

I've realized that I was looking at it. I was like, the car that I, the car that I remember or remember having the most fun and and I hold in such high cord and very high cord.

It's not my favorite car is list.

But I would buy that car again today at the same time.

Um, and it was a 2001 Ford Focus manual that I bought right when I was leaving, leaving Jacksonville.

Right.

The red one.

The red one with the with the gold caps.

Yeah.

And it was just, it wasn't that it wasn't fast. It wasn't particularly sporty. I mean, compact cars back then.

And, uh, there was a little bit, uh, because of the timing, all compact cars that felt like had a little bit more sport in them.

Because sport compact culture was such a big thing.

But the thing about that car that I held in such high regard is when I got up to DC.

Um,

I was going to say that was my thing about that car for you is that it served you well where you were at that time.

Yeah.

I got up to DC and I discovered that the belt way is a racetrack.

Yeah.

Or a parking lot.

Or a parking lot. It's been no one time you hit it.

Um, but I just, I thoroughly enjoyed driving that car, zipping in and out of traffic at DC. That was my first time probably live that now.

That was my first time living in a big American city.

Um, and driving in a big American city often.

I mean, you grew, you grew up close enough to decent size cities. So, but.

But I didn't drive in Charlotte traffic, you know, or Raleigh traffic weekly or daily, you know, I mean, it was like once a month or something that you go to a bigger city.

Yeah.

And, but it, yeah, I get that. I get that. But like with me, with me, um, we growing up when I fought before the Marine Corps, uh, we were in Myrtle Beach and that's where we stayed.

We didn't go nowhere.

I mean,

Hey, speaking of Myrtle Beach, let me take us on a little detour.

Okay.

This is a BS Car Guys detour brought to you by the Pinball Museum of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

So we were down at Myrtle Beach over the weekend for Valentine's Day where Stanley did not come visit.

Um, and while we were there.

Um, looking for touristy things to do that we've never done before, we decided to go check out the Pinball Museum of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

And let me tell you, I put it as a solid eight or nine out of 10 as a recommendation to go check out.

Um, first of all, the guy who owns it and was running it was driving a sweet C eight zero six.

Okay.

I guess the involved machines make a lot of money.

I believe this guy may be retired, but yes.

So he's driving a Corvette.

He has to be retired as a rule.

Yeah, I did not check the data balances, but anyway.

Pinball Museum is a lot of fun.

You pay a flat rate for how we're playing and you play as many games on as many different pinball machines as you want.

And the pinball games range in age from like at least the 70s, if not the 60s all the way up to they have the brand new Harry Potter pinball machine that literally just came out last week.

Like, wow, I was like the fifth person ever to play it in that building.

Wow.

Yeah.

I don't, I don't know if I was ever a big pinball or what do you call someone who plays pinball a lot?

Pinballer.

Pinball wizard.

The song column.

Well, let's do that pinball wizard.

I was never, I mean, it was, there was one in the little bar slash store slash restaurant slash hangout spot in the neighborhood that I grew up in.

But I spent most of my time playing a street fighter.

Yeah.

No, I get it.

We played a lot of Area 51, which was like the precursor to time crisis.

But yeah, no, I mean, I didn't play a lot of pinball growing up either.

There was, there was a pinball machine in the skating rink that we used to go to when I was in middle school and I played that pinball machine from time to time.

You know, but, but this was very interesting in that you're breaking up to another, you know, oh, sorry.

It was interesting because you had all these different generations of pinball machines that you could play and you could bounce from, you know, decade to decade, essentially, and feel the difference in how the game play was.

And, you know, it was pretty interesting.

Yeah.

I mean, it's, as you know, the older I get, I want to do more touristy things because I mean, to be honest, this is like your 500th time being in Murdoch Beach.

And now at least.

And it took, it probably took 450 times before he's like, Hey, let's do some tourist stuff.

Yeah.

I mean, we did, especially me, I never saw myself in that vein of being a tourist down there.

I always figured that that stuff wasn't for me, because I was a local.

But I remember, I was, let me see if you remember this about Murdoch Beach saying how you talk about pinball, you know, we get off track.

Do you remember the arcade on the Boulevard?

Still there.

Okay.

So the one is the one that there were a couple on the below, there's one on the corner, and then there's one like three or four stores down the one on the corner.

For those of you in Murdoch Beach who remember the old days of Murdoch Beach, you will remember that that was the arcade that had the.

I don't know what you call it.

It had the Street Fighter, it had the Street Fighter game in it, that you can do the thing where you filled the screens with Sonic Booms or Hadouken or whatever.

It had the little, you can put a little cheek, that game.

It was either broken or it was.

They did it like that on purpose, but we used to go to that one on purpose just so we can do things like that.

They're playing a broken Street Fighter game.

It was ridiculous.

Yeah, that one's not there anymore.

The other one is still there, the pass through one that goes from one side to the boardwalk to the street.

Yeah.

Right there, a couple of stores down from the Gay Dolphin.

Yeah, so that one used to be on top of that one used to be the Teen Club called the Magic.

That's right.

Actually tying this back to cars that may have actually been that that arcade may have been the thing that taught me how to drive a manual because they had a game in there back in the day called hard driving.

Where you was driving this.

I think it was a Ferrari or something, but it had a manual in it and you had to drive, you had to actually shift it and do all the right things or you would just mess it up.

I'd never got far in that game because I couldn't drive a manual at the time, but I think that was my me starting to learn how to drive a manual.

I remember that game.

I don't know if that's the right name, but I do remember the Ferrari Testarosa being in the car in the game.

Yeah, go ahead and Google it.

I'm definitely going to go hard driving.

Okay, but yeah, so about your cars was there a car that you when you put it on unless you was like, man, I messed that up or just had this this immediate feeling feeling of regret or something.

Not necessarily the car, the total car experience is bad, but there was something that was left undone or something that you remember doing wrong about that car.

Um, I would say, I don't know if there's a car on my list.

It was hard.

I'm looking at it.

Yes.

So you got the name right.

And I remember dying on this loop every time because there's a loop.

The loop was the loop was nearly impossible.

I don't know how anybody could do.

I know the exact loop you're talking.

I could see it in my mind.

Oh man.

I made that game for the record.

Wow.

Good job Atari.

Um, I don't, I don't have a ton of like regrets as I look over the list.

You know, I have some, if I had it to do over again scenarios, I could play out like, you know, I kind of wished I had finished the LS swap on the Land Cruiser.

Um, you know, if the timing was just wrong on the Jeep Renegade, like if, if we had bought it.

And not, not had a child, you know, not like, because I mean, we ordered that thing from.

Yep.

Jeep in Italy, like it was, it was a big deal.

It was the first Renegade, uh, Trailhawk Renegade in the state.

Um, you know.

Wow.

So.

We probably would have kept that longer kinder glove driving it because it was easy to park and had had good enough ground clearance.

And I mean, dude, it would go just about anywhere.

Um, just because there's a short wheelbase.

Yeah.

I remember you scared the crap out of me and Dara.

No.

Yeah.

In the middle of the night in the middle of a field.

We, we, I mean, the field wasn't so scary.

It was the login road I took you on that I think had you a little panicked.

Yeah.

Um, did he know where he was?

Cause I sure did not know where I was.

Oh, I knew exactly where we were.

And I ride our four wheelers out there.

Oh, we knew you knew where you were.

Yeah.

See, that was the thing.

You had us out there in the woods.

It's going to be, it's going to be the beginning or the end of a horror movie.

And either way, you were the token black dude, right?

Yeah, I was going out first.

Definitely.

I was definitely going out first.

Also, as I look over my list, you know, there's a couple of cars that,

you know, if, if, if it had been just a little bit different,

I'd probably, if the Audi hadn't cost me so much in maintenance and repairs,

I'd probably still own the Audi.

Cause I really liked the Audi.

It was a good sized car for a single kid family.

Station wagons are smart.

If the Jetta had been a purchase with a manual, there's a decent chance I still

be driving that car with like 600,000 miles on it.

Wow.

So, I mean, as I look over the list, there's, there's a few could of would

of should as, you know, had, had the Ranger been a closer facsimile to

Kendra's original Ranger that she wrecked when we were dating.

Would we have kept the Ranger longer?

Possibly, you know, if it had held up, you know, the thing I realized

looking over my list is I killed a lot of these cars.

I'm hard on cars.

I mean, there, there, there's a singular regret is that I should treat these

things better, but.

Yeah.

Those of us who know you, we know that you are a little hard on cars, though

you will spend some money to take care of it.

You are known to push things to a limit.

Well, I mean, look, the fact that there is a limit, you know, that the very essence

of the limit in sort of invites itself to be found, right?

I mean, that's the nature of there being a limit is someone has to know what it

is.

Otherwise, does it exist?

It's like the tree that falls in the woods.

If nobody's there to hear it, does it make a sound?

Yeah.

If the car has a limit, but no one ever finds it, does it exist?

So that's some deep philosophy for you tonight on this episode of BS Car Guys

Podcast.

So of all the cars on my list that died in my possession or in my proximity,

I only have one.

And I didn't do it.

My son blew up.

I had a 2012 Chrysler 200 for, I must say, about five years.

And he came, he moved back.

My oldest son moved back and he needed a car to get around.

And I remember it was a topic of controversy that we let him drive the car

because he had to get to him from work.

And he proved why we should never let kids drive things that you value.

Absolutely.

He blew it up.

So if I look at my list, 14 cars, and I look at and I single out cars that

win at the time, I got rid of them, whatever fashion that is, trade in,

sell out, right, you know, donate, whatever that is.

Of the ones that were in need of repair or had major things wrong with them.

Yeah.

At the time they were dismissed from my ownership.

I'm at 50%.

Wow.

Seven out of 14 of them.

So you're that guy.

I think we just, we just learned something about, but you're that guy

that supplies car dealerships with cars that with limits.

Yeah.

So listen, I'm not handing you a wet sponge.

That suckers dry when I hand it off.

I'm just going to go ahead and tell you.

You were like, oh, it looks good.

Give it 50 miles.

I had a friend.

Let's, let's be fair.

I own four currently, which means that there's only been 10 that have come

and gone.

You are definitely that guy.

I got a friend.

I think I said, told the story a little bit.

He, he had a Ford Focus that had that horrible, whatever she has

transmission in it.

And he waited smooth until it was a day where it was acting right.

And it was sufficiently warmed up.

And he took it to the dealership.

And he's like, oh yeah, go ahead and go ahead and test drive it and give me

an evaluation.

Give me, tell me how much you're getting before.

He absolutely waited to the ideal time when the car was feeling good about

itself to take it there.

Cause I know as soon as they turned that car off and turned it back on the

next morning to go take it to the auction or whatever they were going to

do with it.

They was like, man, this dude got us.

Cause in the first 30 minutes of driving that car, it, it didn't want to do

nothing right.

When we, when we sold our Jetta to CarMax due to the test drive, you are the

first, you are the reason why CarMax has that reputation.

Yes.

Oh, 100%.

Well, if they're dumb enough to buy it, he dude put it in reverse and pressed

the gas and it went nowhere.

Wow.

And then it like finally caught cause the transmission was slipping so bad and

it still come back.

It was like, I give y'all $3,500 for it.

We were like, write the check, write the check.

Yeah.

I mean, there was a couple of times.

I think we, our, our first minivan, it had a coolant leak or something and it

was going to be like 12 or $1,400 to fix or something.

And I was right about to go on deployment and everything.

I was like, I do not have time to deal with this.

So we just took it.

We just traded it.

It was absolutely traded in to CarMax.

Absolutely did it.

But most often, mostly because of Japan, my end with a car was I sold it or and

then followed up by trading it.

I didn't get, I didn't, I didn't remember this, but I would, this probably

wouldn't have been the first thing that came to my mind, but I did gave, I gave

away two cars.

I did do that.

And if you want to call my one repo, I guess that's giving it away too.

But I think the car that I have the most regrets on is probably the first two

cars.

I got, I got that Dodge Daytona right before I came to Marine Corps and I was

dumb and didn't listen and got rid of that car to get that Mr.

Beechey Mirage 1995 Mr. Beechey Mirage LS, which was at the time was a pretty

nice little car.

And I should have never done that.

I absolutely should have never done that.

It was, but I was brand new in the Marine Corps.

I had a little bit of stable money for the first time in my life and I just

need to go spend it.

So, I mean, I love that look, that Mirage was especially in 1995.

It was the sub, it was a sport car, the subcompact compact sport compact car

that nobody else had.

And, you know, everybody has civics and stuff.

And it was a lot because people didn't think they could afford it.

And it was, and it was Mr. Beechey.

So, you know, we were still back in the day where, you know, you stuck with

Honda Toyota Chevy and Ford.

And that was it.

You didn't really go outside of that.

So if you had a Mazda or a Mitsubishi or Nissan, you were already doing something

very different from everybody else.

So, so let me ask you a question as you look at your list now.

Because your list is so long.

You saying that you gave away some cars will probably hurt you here.

But do you think you could come up with a rough price or dollar amount of what

you got out of those cars?

Oh, heck no.

Like most people, going to a dealership is akin to going to a dentist for you.

And for most other people, it is a thing that you have to do, but you don't

choose to do.

And because a lot of the times, especially for me, when I traded car in, it was

not necessarily that the car was broken or something.

It seemed to focus around stress events.

And when I said stress events, a PCS move, a kid come in, something was

happening, something was changing.

And the focus was essentially getting the car that was going to serve us best next,

not necessarily trying to squeak the most out of the car, which if I had to do

it over again, that'd be top three things to do.

Trying to get more out of cars.

Probably selling it to putting a four sale sign on it and putting it on the

limb a lot, one of them versus going to train it in.

Being the predecessor of bringer trailer and cars and beds and stuff.

I probably could have did it without these cars.

But yeah, I can't, that would be hard.

You know what?

I don't think I can do that because I just, the goal was to get the next thing

and once it was gone, I had to forget about it because I'm sure just like you,

you get the car and there's that period in which you're so happy with yourself

that you, especially for me back in the day.

And you know, because we came from places that didn't necessarily have

means or people treated money the correct way.

Getting approved, getting the credit approval for a new car wasn't

an achievement by itself.

So I wanted to make sure I got out that dealership before somebody changed their

mind.

Right, right.

Well, listen, I mean, I just want to say I did the math on mine because it was a

little bit easier only having, like I said, we still own four out of the 14.

And so only having 10 cars that went away.

It was a little easier for me to do the math.

So I did the math and out of the 10 cars that we no longer have was $193,000.

Okay, total purchase monies.

And we got back on trade ins or outright selling, which as I look at the list,

I recognize that out of those 10, it's pretty evenly split like five and five of

what I sold outright and what I actually traded in at a dealership.

But anyway, out of those 10, we got $77,000 of trade in or selling dollar amount.

So essentially 40% of our money.

Wow.

That's actually, I would say that's above average right there.

100% way above average.

And I mean, I guess I could try.

I keep paperwork for forever.

So I'm probably sure I got it somewhere for most.

Like I said, it was a little bit easier for me to do it just, you know, with a smaller

sample set.

I'm sure, you know, a message you have to with Japanese cars and what the

dollar was probably worth and what, you know, knowing what it roughly worked out

to be is sketchy memories from, you know, an old man.

So what was the weirdest car on your list?

Cause I bought two weird cars that I don't know if I ever talked about.

Probably my weirdest car was a, I don't even know if I'd count it as weird,

but you know, weird and when you look at my lineup of cars, a random 2012 Ford

Focus Hatchback.

When did you have a Ford Focus Hatchback?

In 2013.

I had it from 13 to 15.

We traded in on the Renegade.

The hatchback part isn't weird.

The Ford Focus part of it is very weird.

Was it a manual?

Yeah.

No.

No, it wasn't.

Oh, man.

See, you missed.

Remember, remember when the Ford, so that was 13, which gen is that one?

That's the, was that?

It was right before the ST came to the States.

Okay.

So we are in the same generation.

No, no, no, no, no.

No, no, it was after your red one.

You had two generations after that.

Yeah.

All right.

So two generations after that.

Remember when the Focus first came to the state, it was, it was, it was kind of

put it in the same conversation as Volkswagen Jetta's when it comes to handling,

which it kind of was.

Yeah.

It was a European car.

But it's like the American European car or something like that.

But so I got a couple of weirdos on here and I don't know if I ever spoke to you

about them.

Um, um, and it's not the sweet pickle bus.

I owned a 86, 87 ish late 80s Nissan Polestar in X in the States.

That's what they call it in the States.

And now we, we, we've discussed that one on the bypass.

You told us about that.

Yeah.

Um, and then, um, the other car.

That, that I own was, um, state in the States, we called it the Subaru SVX.

Uh, in Japan, they called it the Alcona or whatever they called Alconi.

I don't know how you say that word.

Yes.

And I was like, and I had to go back and I Googled the Polestar and I was like, man,

that car.

Was this, I don't know if you remember the old square, uh, Polestar.

It was like a, a hatchback, uh, a car that looked like a, uh, a coupe,

but it was really a hatchback.

Now I was yours.

The one that had was also shared with a zoo zoo that had the four square headlights.

No, no, no, no.

Or yours, the more rounded.

No, mine was, mine was the square, the square one that, uh, they,

when they debuted, uh, you could get it, uh, it was reconfigurable,

which is why it was a weird hatchback slash trunk thingy.

And, um, if you Google it right now, you, you probably going to see the one I'm talking about.

Okay.

Mine was white with the gray and it was very, very, very angry.

I think, I think I'm pretty sure it had pop up headlights.

Um, I remember specifically when I sold it, I sold it to this kid and he

immediately wanted me to help him put two Sony 10s in that car.

And I was like, man, if I did that, I probably would have kept this down car.

But yeah, it was pretty, it got pretty loud pretty quick.

Okay.

I remember the one you had now.

I, I, yes.

Yeah.

Um, and then I wish you had had the one with the weird square, um, camper shell

looking thing on the back.

They were, they were available and you could buy, it was an accessory

because you could swap out their trunk and put that thing on.

Yeah.

A reconfigurable car.

Who would have done good.

Um, but that, and I think that in the Subaru was the two weirdest things.

And the weirdest thing about the Subaru is one, the windows were weird.

The windows were like, what, four inches tall?

Yeah.

Cause it was like a window inside of a window.

Right.

And then I think is that the only V six, not V six, uh, in like, uh,

horizontally opposed six that Subaru ever did.

Or did they do, or did they do one in the drive back or whatever that thing

was?

Yeah.

They've got age sixes in outbacks and the truck.

Oh yeah.

That's right.

They did do it.

They six over there too.

Remember when that car came out, people was talking about it was as fast as a

Mustang, which it was.

Yeah.

And it was all wheel drive.

There was a, there was a girl who went to our church when I was in high

school that had one.

She was the only person I knew had one.

I thought she was like the coolest.

I was like, man, she knows what's up.

She was a lot older than us.

But she was probably like in her twenties when I was in middle school,

but I was like, man, she, she knows what's up.

That's a car right there.

Yeah.

And I also, I also, uh, have confirmed which skylines I owned.

There were Nissan skyline, GST, G at GTS, uh, T, a sedan and a coupe.

Those were the R 32s.

Very.

All of them are 32s.

Both of them are R 32s.

Both of them are just GTS T's.

Okay.

Yeah.

I had to look at, I did a little deep dive and I was like, yep, I remember that.

I remember this.

Yep.

That was what those were on.

It's right there.

Um, but I mean, besides those two weirdos and the other thing is, um, besides that,

uh, that, that posts are, I don't got another hatchback.

No, the integral was a hatchback.

That, that, that, that I lied.

The Tegra and the Daytona were both hatchbacks as well.

But, um, cause I had a, uh, around about 85, 86 somewhere around that mid 80s again.

Uh, first gen and Tegra, which I sold to Downing actually.

It was green.

Uh, and, uh, I liked that car, but, uh, he, he was willing to give me like four grand for it.

So therefore, uh, he got it.

I have had, I have had one coupe, one sedan, one wagon, three hatchbacks and one, two, three,

four pickup trucks and three, four SUVs.

I'm going to let the Jeep Renegade pretend to be a SUV for a minute and not count it as a hatchback.

It's okay.

One day you'll let that go.

No, you won't.

But, uh, I think the, the most common, how many vans I got?

One.

Oh, zero vans.

Zero vans.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

I'm going to call my sweet pickle buses man for the sake of this conversation.

Also zero buses.

What?

Four vans.

Oh my less.

Is there a brand that jumps out at you?

Uh, surprisingly, uh, the, uh, the brand that I own the most is probably split between the Honda

and Honda and Nissan because of the Japan tie in.

Um, let me look at it real quick.

So I have, I have four from the Volkswagen group and five from Ford.

Yeah.

Honda.

I am at five and Nissan.

Six.

So I know it was close.

Six.

Nissan's.

Nissan sunny.

The pulse are two skylines of Gloria and a Sylvia.

Wow.

See, all you had to do is, you know, go to Japan and you could have, you could have.

Kendra would have never let you do it, but you could have tried.

I think my, my widest sampling is from the Fords and that, especially in the pickup trucks,

because all of my pickup trucks have been forwards.

2000 Ranger 2006 F one 50 2018 F one 50 2025 F two 50.

I, the other thing I noted was I don't have a, I don't have a truck on, on this list.

The closest thing I have to a truck on this list is cause you're talking about, you said

truck is, is the 94 Chevy Blazer Tahoe.

That's 10 Blazer Tahoe.

Tahoe was a trim back then.

It wasn't a car.

Yeah, that's right.

And I guess that's the truckiest thing that I've owned.

I mean, I drove.

Oh, I guess it was like mid 80s.

Dodge Ram truck with the three 18 in it.

Uh, that, that was stepped down.

Had, but an L could be, you know, we, it was kind of, it was my friend's dad's car,

but it was more like a community car.

Well, I got my license in a Ram with a three 18 in it.

Ours was green.

And, uh, I think the best thing about it was the three 18 in it.

It was, uh, this was black and gray, regular cab, red,

cloth interior, bent seat and, uh, long eight foot bed on it.

Yeah, we, um, I don't even know.

I think my step dad, uh, beat somebody up for that truck too.

For the right.

On this episode of Dayline.

To be, man, he was a rough dude in his younger years.

He was a rough dude.

Uh, some, and he was also, he gave me that, uh, my habit and probably,

I'm a blame him for my one and only repo.

Um, cause, uh, he was the type of person and I'm not sure you got somebody in

your family like this, but I'm sure that you were close,

at least close to somebody like this.

They would get a new thing and decided they want to pay for it no more

unless somebody come get it and just go get another.

And when I say new thing, I mean, new to them, not new, not brand new,

just new to them.

He get, he get a car, he drive for a little bit, something go wrong with

it or he just didn't feel like paying for it.

Somebody come get it.

He just go get something else.

So, uh, speak, so when we began the podcast, you said that, um,

we're going to try to hit on a couple of news items.

Yeah.

I have a couple, I have a couple that I would like to cover.

Before I run out of voice.

Yeah, we hear it.

We hear it.

So the first one was.

That we've been watching some of the, um, Olympic coverage.

Okay.

And my wife is saying hockey is skiing, but I tried to watch it.

But it's good.

Um, there's been a commercial or two for the new Kia Telluride.

Uh-huh.

With the like off roadie.

The.

It's not XRT.

That's that's Hyundai.

It's something with an X and a T in it.

Yeah.

Trail.

X rated up.

Yeah.

Trail, whatever.

Anyway.

Without, without even going to the Kia website.

I made a blanket.

Bill Cranford.

Old Cremigian.

Statement about that vehicle.

Watch that.

My wife said, you know, that doesn't look too bad.

And I immediately just flew off my rant rage and said, you know,

it makes me happy that you notice it and that you like it.

But I'm just going to tell you, I already know the problem with it.

The trim package that you like.

Ain't available with a bench seat in the second row.

And then I went to the Kia website and went to the build configuration

thing.

And sure enough, you can only get a bench seat on the second row in two

trim levels out of the five or six, whatever they got.

And it's two of the most basic crap eating trim levels that my wife

would never drive.

Come with a bench seat.

So right there, you lost a, not even really a potential, but you know,

a pretend for a moment, fleeting second, pretend Kia customer will never

come shop your vehicle and will never look at one and will never even

partially consider one because you have decided ahead of time that you

don't need me as your customer.

So that's my Kia rant.

Alright, first of all, as seeing how you do not like Korean cars, I will

tell you that I will, without going to the website, make a bold statement

that saying that she probably would never drive the, she probably wouldn't

like the first trim level, which I think is ass or something like that.

But the second trim level, knowing you and knowing her and how y'all don't

really do super fancy things like that, she would be okay with it.

They do a pretty good job of packing enough stuff in there.

Here's the other thing.

This is like a whole by the way.

She would also never buy the vehicle because it's got entirely too many

electronic safety things on there that you can't disable.

And she will not own a vehicle that when she goes to get out of it tells

you to check the rear seats.

She also will not own a vehicle that has a pop up that tells you constantly

if somebody in the third row isn't wearing their seatbelt because we both

live through the seventies and eighties and nineties and what happens in the

backseat is none of our business.

First, you got a seatbelt on.

That's great.

If you don't got a seatbelt on, that's probably also great.

I don't care, especially if you're a grown adult.

If you're a grown adult and I've already made you compromise your life by

getting into my third row, I'm not about to dictate to you that we are not moving

it to you but a seatbelt on.

Well, that's partly because you are mature individuals and you just physically

turn right there and look to see if there's somebody back there.

However, we live in the world with a plethora that is overpopulated with

non-responsible humans.

Okay.

I don't disagree but it is not the car companies.

The car company is not responsible for those people's incompetencies.

I will give it until May before we get a national story that some

irresponsible person leaves a kid in a car and that child perishes.

Again, I don't disagree.

I don't disagree and it is an absolute tragedy.

I'm not saying that it is anything other than that but I am also saying that it is

not the car company's responsibility to make sure you got some dad blame common sense.

Also, you can't turn that feature off because I can't confirm that you can turn it off.

You can turn it off in the new one but I know you can turn it off in the last year

because I just don't happen to be around some people who have them because they seem like

they're everywhere.

We've got the Hyundai Palette thing but what does have you can get a third bent seat in

the second row in every trim except for the super top trim which you probably wouldn't

buy in the Honda Pilot?

Yeah.

You can do it.

I tried to tell Kendra to look at the Honda Pilot Trail Sport but again, it's another

one of those ones that if somebody in the third row is not wearing their seat belt,

it never stops dingin'.

I think you are overselling that.

I think you're overselling that.

I don't think you fully appreciate just how much Kendra enjoys the fun.

That's the fact that both the vehicles she rotates through are 22 years old and older.

Well, obviously she likes old things.

She picked you and you may not be physically older than us but mentally you are 15 years

older than us.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

I didn't say 15 years more mature.

I heard it the way I heard it and you said it the way you said it.

There are things that are old and mature and kind of new at the same time of the horrible

segue.

I asked you to Google the 2027 Audi RS5 which they showed us pictures of the day.

Yes, we know that you're not going to like the plug-in.

The plug-in hybrid part.

I think that car is pretty though.

I think it's pretty.

They are using the hybrid to add 130 horsepower or like 200 something foot pounds of torque.

Overall, I just think it's pretty.

Especially in that green.

They should have did the wagon in the green but I understand why they had to do it in two

different colors because they want to differentiate the two vehicles.

That green, my wife has infected me with appreciating green cars more.

It is a good looking green car.

The wagon in the green with some gold wheels.

Oh, that would be though.

Let me see if they got a picture of a green one on that car show.

They're saying this thing.

I watched a part of the video.

I didn't watch the whole video because I was doing multiple things at the same time.

It's in the 600 horsepower club now and in top speed of like 180 miles per hour.

They're not exactly using it the same way that Porsche is doing it.

Where the turbochargers are enhanced by the electric motors.

But they are doing the Porsche thing where the electric motor is inside the transmission

and adding direct power as you apply things.

We know how well that that model has worked out for Toyota and many other brands.

What do you mean by that, sir?

Think about other plug-in hybrids that have the transmission power units

and how well those have done with reliability.

Well, if you're going to talk, if you're going to talk Toyota there, according to Consumer Reports,

the old man magazine, Toyota hybrids are the most reliable vehicles you can buy.

Will I sit here and say to you that everybody does it right now?

But this is not the power goal.

It's not necessarily that the motor is turning the electric motor.

The electric motor is adding power to the power output.

Similar to that, it wasn't stinker.

Remember that Porsche that they did, the old Porsche that they put that pancake motor in?

What was it?

It wasn't a stinker.

I think it was green, too.

You showed it to me years ago.

At first, I was like, I don't know if I like this and then it just grew on me.

I was like, no, adding power without adding.

But that car didn't even have a battery, like a huge battery or something.

It did something different to charge.

Anyway, I can't remember.

First of all, it isn't Audi.

It's not going to be reliable.

We know that.

Right.

Second of all, it's going to look good.

It's going to look good for the time it's working.

But yeah, that was the thing that jumped out to me this week.

I didn't have a whole lot of time to watch a lot of car videos and stuff,

because some things are going on in my life right now and at work.

But that wouldn't popped up today.

And I was like, oh, that's cool.

I do have a question.

I do have another car question for you from another video.

Okay.

And it kind of relates to this body count thing.

Now that I'm thinking about it.

Cars as investments.

So I watched a little bit of who these video when he got interviewed.

And he was going through him and his life with cars.

Speaking of car counts.

Them dudes got some crazy car counts.

Yes.

And are you at the stage of your life where you could or would consider

or even thought about a car as an investment like those guys do,

where they buy a car specifically to let it appreciate at the right time

and then sell high?

No.

And I agree with you.

I don't know if I'll ever be there.

I don't think I'll ever be there.

I know that I won't.

Second.

I know that I won't.

Yeah.

And I think from the beginning of this podcast,

we talked about how car people have overlaps,

but can be very, very, very different.

Even you and I, we both, both of us love cars.

We love cars for the same reason a lot and for different reasons a lot.

And I don't know if them dudes actually love cars or just love.

They like cars and saw a way to make more money out of it.

Sometimes.

You know what I mean?

Because we don't have them.

Sometimes some of these, some of these things,

they just don't have long enough to really appreciate it.

If you're buying it just to sell it, are you really enjoying it?

Or, you know what I mean?

There's a difference, I think.

So, we get into some finer minutiae of car enthusiasm here.

Because I do feel like there are kind of some distinct or,

I mean, I'm sure there's overlap,

but some kind of differing camps of car ownership.

So, you know, I mean, again, my body counts only 14 cars.

But every single one of those cars, I enjoyed maybe too much.

Maybe, you know, beyond their limits.

Like I drove them, every single one were purchased with the intent to be driven

and driven for my enjoyment and for my use case or for practical purposes,

but certainly driven for my enjoyment.

Like I found pleasure in their own way from each of those vehicles.

So, I struggle to look at, you know, now would I ever buy a vehicle

solely for the purpose of flipping it for profit?

Maybe, likely.

But would I buy a car with the intent to keep for years on end

and go into that relationship with the car

knowing I'm going to drive it a minimal amount

and I'm going to pay to maintain it in the hopes of selling for profit?

No.

I go into every car purchase expecting to lose 60 to 70 percent.

Yeah, I understand you.

And I'm with you there.

Even though sometimes we're buying cars for different purposes,

I'm buying a car to drive it.

Yeah.

It may have like vans.

I bought vans because we have four kids and life is way easier

when you have four kids that can't touch or can't

or have enough space where they don't touch each other

while you're going on the road trip.

If you've got four kids, get a vehicle.

It may not be a van, but if you've got a vehicle

where they got their own seats,

their own assigned seats at that, life is easier, just trust me.

But yeah, I don't know.

I mean, we know somebody that we knew somebody,

you know, way longer than us, that I think he made some money

off some cars that he owned.

But at the same time, you know,

even though my body count is 30, I bought the cars.

I didn't buy a car just to sell it.

I bought a car that I wanted to buy,

knowing that I eventually would sell it

because that's just what the market kind of does.

There we go thinking about kind of an economic,

speaking of an economic terms.

I knew there was going to be another Marine that was coming

that was going to need a car.

And I had a car that they could get.

And I knew where to go get another car

that I wanted to kind of experience.

So it wasn't to get it just to sell it.

It was to get it and enjoy it.

And then if somebody came up, I was like,

hey man, I like that civic.

Where'd you get it from?

It's like, well, you want one?

It's like, you can buy this one.

So, I think the only car on this whole list

that I had in Japan that I bought specifically

because I knew I bought it to sell it

was a Mazda 929.

Because I really didn't want that car,

but it was, I think I paid initially maybe,

I put $1,500 in that car, I think, maybe.

No, it wasn't even that.

I think I put like, oh, I actually had enough.

I put like $500 to $700 in that car,

and I sold it for $2,000.

Wow.

But I knew people, because the car didn't have,

because in Japan you have to have this thing called JCI.

It's like a road worthy inspection.

And you could not drive the car.

In North Carolina, you don't get your inspection done.

You probably can get away with it for a couple of months.

Not in Japan.

There's some people rolling around Ashmore.

They can get away with it for a couple of years.

Exactly.

I got behind a dude the other day in a drive-through

with 30-day tags on the back of his pickup truck

from another state.

Wow.

And the 30 days ran up in 2012.

Wow.

That's a record.

That gotta be a record somewhere.

Wow.

I mean, I almost got out in the drive-through

and went and shook the man's hand.

Wow.

He bought it in December of 2011

and the 30-day tags ran out in January of 2012.

Still rolling, riding dirty.

I mean, that might be the definition.

If I hadn't been so close to him in a drive-through,

I don't think I could have made out what the numbers were.

Wow.

That's crazy.

Speaking of that, you just made me ask another question.

This episode has been a lot of questions and answers and stuff.

Next time, let's do a more free-flowing, less-formatted one.

But speaking of buying cars in other states

and not getting in trouble for it

and then having to deal with getting in trouble for it,

I'm guessing that you're tuned into this.

What's up with your boy, Whistlin?

I think this is the last thing I'm gonna ask you.

You don't gotta go into some in-depth thing.

I think we could talk about it.

I think...

I have some more in-depth.

Yeah, yeah.

I think the biggest thing in it is

they're trying to make an example out of him

because he wasn't blatantly doing it

and telling people he was doing it,

but he's doing something that millions of other people are doing.

Yeah.

And a lot of the people that are doing it are businesses,

or LLCs, just like him.

He's got a small LLC that's his company,

that all his YouTube content takes place under for tax purposes,

and his LLC is registering their vehicles

using an address that he maintains in that state

and doing it in a state that is advantageous to automotive taxes.

The problem is, and it's gonna come down to,

how many days during his ownership of that vehicle?

See, I think what messed him up was that the car burned to the ground

and he didn't have it very long.

And so...

Is that the one he set on fire on purpose?

It's the Ferrari he was driving through a cornfield

and it got so much stuff sucked up in the engine,

it caught on fire.

Okay.

So...

He did set a car on fire on purpose, though, didn't he?

Oh, I'm sure he's done at least one or two.

But the Ferrari was an unusual thing

because it was a very expensive car

and there was probably an insurance claim.

And because there was an insurance claim,

a police report probably had to happen.

And the police report probably uncovered the fact

that the car was registered in one state,

but had resided in another state for a period of time.

There was like more of a percentage

than it resided in the state in which it was registered.

And I think that's what messed him up.

If he had owned that car for...

And look, I'm not an expert.

I'm not a legal...

I'm not a lawyer, so don't, you know,

refer me for any court cases you have coming up.

But I think that's going to be the thing that does him in

and it's going to cost him money.

I think it'll...

I don't think it'll be as severe as what they want it to be

because it's going to become high-profile

and it's going to wind up meaning that other companies

that have been taking advantage of this loophole

are going to start to get nervous.

And so some people in more important places

with more important names are probably going to say,

y'all need to make this go away.

But he's not going to get out of it without having to pay

some kind of fine.

Yeah.

When I first heard about it,

I don't really follow him that much

because I just don't like what he does with cars

from what I saw.

He may do some cool things with cars,

just parts that I saw I just didn't appreciate.

But, hey, do you do, do you do,

do all the stuff that's cool in your head

as long as you don't hurt nobody.

When I first heard the story and looked at it a little bit,

the first thing came to my mind was

all the U-Haul trucks with Arizona tags on it.

100%.

Or all the enterprise cars with Tennessee tags on it.

Or Florida.

Yeah.

Stuff like that.

I think, and you've only lived in North Carolina, really.

I bought a car in Florida.

I bought a car in Virginia.

Outside of that, pretty much everything else

has been in North Carolina.

Yeah.

Especially for me, moving around a little bit,

even though I didn't move around as much as a lot of Marines do.

There's a time limit where you're supposed to,

where you're supposed to change your tags over.

That's correct.

Right.

And it's me being the rule follower that I am.

I always, always try to adhere to that

because I just didn't want them problems.

But again, that's, and see,

that's, it gets a lot different when

it's residency versus location of a business.

And so having a business located in a state

that has different tax laws, you know,

is a lot different than being a resident of a state.

You know, that's, I mean, when,

when you change your residency,

you also have to get your license changed, right?

Correct.

You have to change your address on your license.

Same deal.

But you can live in one state

and your business be located in another.

Yeah.

So that's, again, that's, it gets into a gray area

because he's operating a business.

And the car is leased in a business's name.

Yeah.

Well, I knew, I knew you followed.

I knew that you used at least used to follow

his content a little bit.

And I saw the story popped up.

I think Doug had a little, a little bit about it.

But I was like, yeah, y'all are kind of picking on this kid.

Now I'm not telling you.

He is.

Y'all ain't, I'm not telling you that he is,

he is intentionally doing what he's doing,

but it comes to a point where you're single him out.

And the other part about it is I think,

and this also could just be me not knowing him

and knowing his content that well,

I think part of it is he kind of is like,

no, I'm doing what I want to do.

I'm going to do, I'm going to do what I want to do

and sometimes doing what you want to do comes with a price tag

that you don't want to pay.

Yeah.

Well, and I mean, I think, I think Cody debt waller

is a very smart individual.

I think he has developed a online persona that would lead you

to believe that he's, yeah, that he is very unintelligent

and that, you know, whistling diesel is a guy who just goes

out here and destroys stuff.

I think the reality is much like Garrett Mitchell

and Cletus McFarland.

You have a character that you've developed for an audience

and the danger for the authorities in the case is

you better do your research and find out exactly who you're going

up against because you might be going up against the guy who's

got all the time in the world because his job is literally

to just make videos.

Yeah.

He can shoot a video in the parking lot of the courthouse

on his cell phone and upload it and make more money that day

than everybody in that courtroom is going to make for the whole year.

Tracking.

I think the one video that I did, the video that I, that popped

up on my feed was he got arrested coming back from somewhere

and they essentially shot the video from the parking lot

of the police station.

Yeah.

And so, and it's got millions of views.

Yeah.

And so I think, I think if the state of, I guess it's the state

of Tennessee, I guess.

Tennessee.

If they're, if they're not smart, they get themselves into a

situation where the guy with nothing but time on his hands can

make as much content about the legal system and about every

single thing they say to him to try to co-works him into making

a statement or accepting a position or, you know, saying he's

guilty of something that he doesn't feel like he's guilty of.

And he's just going to go out there and tell, he's going to

inform everybody he can that, you know, this is the law.

This is how the law is written.

And I think if anything, it's going to go the opposite direction.

You're going to have more businesses operating out of Montana,

close their doors and start paying taxes in the state in which

they really exist.

If anything, you're going to have more businesses go, holy crap,

I didn't realize it was that easy.

We're moving our LLC to Montana so we can buy vehicles and not

pay taxes all.

Yeah.

It's going to go the wrong way.

Yeah.

And it's actually going to have an adverse effect.

I think it is a bit of a double-edged sword because it does.

It's somebody who is looking for a way to get around this and

didn't know how to, that you just informed them how to.

That's right.

And they're small enough that they will not attract the kind of

attention that he does.

Yeah.

You're not out setting a Ferrari on fire.

Yeah.

And they'll just get away with it.

I think, no, I'm not going to say that because that person could

get in trouble and it didn't, it would cost me some money.

So I'll leave that one alone.

But the last thing I was saying is I lied earlier.

The oldest car on my list wasn't that 1987 because it was the

first car you saw me in, the 1985 BMW 318i.

I could.

For some reason I was thinking it must have been an 88 because you

said the other was an 87.

So it's just, I owned the 87.

Let me see.

Let me count the number of cars before it.

The BMW was the 14th car on the list.

Wow.

15th car on the list.

So it was the third car that I owned in the United States of

America, but it is also the 15th car that I own.

Wow.

And on that note, I'm a, I'm a go cry in a corner because I spent

way too much money on cars and have this, this is too long.

All right.

Well, I think that was a good episode.

I think it was too bad.

Russian voice.

We know that's how you get paid.

Your gift for GAB has put you to position that you are.

And we didn't always think it was going to be a good position that

the way, how much you talk was going to put you in, but it's

going to work out for you.

So, I mean, I would love to be able to go back and find my

kindergarten first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth,

seventh, eighth, any of those teachers and be like, Hey, remember

when you wrote on my report card talks too much?

Yeah.

Turns out let's food on the table.

Yeah.

Yep.

It turns out that you were doing the same thing that I was.

Now you were talking a lot and getting paid.

Definitely.

That's right.

I just used you as an example.

All right.

I love you, man.

I love you too.

Night, man.

Night, y'all.

See you.

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