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Welcome back to EV News Daily.

Welcome to The Tech Sheet,

the name that I give to special bonus episodes,

which explain the tech behind EVs.

You'll have seen in your podcast feed some bonus shows,

the other ones I'm gonna call the spec sheet,

where we look at the specifications

of a new electric vehicle.

Well, today I'm gonna ask the question

why the car industry still has 12-volt batteries

in cutting-edge EVs?

And we might make this a two-parter, actually.

There's a lot to get into,

because Tesla's trying to move the industry forward

once again, as they've done many times in the past,

but at the moment,

well, the industry isn't biting on this one.

Despite the advances in electric vehicle technology,

from massive lithium-ion battery packs

to sophisticated power management systems,

virtually every modern electric vehicle

still carries what appears to be

an automotive relic from the past,

the humble 12-volt lead-acid battery.

This seemingly anachronistic component

dating back to automotive conventions of the past

back in the 1950s,

continues to play a critical role

in even the most advanced electric vehicles.

The persistence of 12-volt systems in cutting-edge EVs

represents a fascinating intersection

of legacy engineering, practical necessity,

safety requirements, and economic considerations

that have proven remarkably resistant

to any kind of disruption.

The recent introduction of Tesla's Cybertruck

with its groundbreaking 48-volt electrical architecture

reignited the industry discussions

about whether the time has finally come

to abandon the old 12-volt

and make all new electric vehicles on 48-volts.

They even shared their own 48-volt implementation

documentation with other car makers.

It's created opportunity, but also controversy,

raising fundamental questions about the future

of electrical systems in EVs.

Yet, two years after the Cybertruck's launch,

the EV industry has largely remained committed

to the good old faithful 12-volt,

revealing deep-seated challenges

that extend far beyond simple technical preferences.

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Let's get into it.

The history of the 12-volt doesn't start there, actually.

It starts even lower.

The story of automotive electrical systems

begins not with the 12-volt battery,

but with an even lower voltage standard

that dominated the industry for over three decades.

From the 1920s through to the early 1950s,

most automobiles operated on a six-volt electrical system.

The voltage level was perfectly adequate

for the limited electrical demands of early automobiles,

which required power, primarily for basic lighting,

ignition, and accessories.

The six-volt standard emerged organically

during the automotive industry's formative years

when vehicles were mechanically simple

and their electrical needs were minimal.

The transition from non-electrical to electrical systems

represented a big advancement in automotive technology.

Early cars had hand crank starters,

a settle in gas lighting and purely mechanical operation.

The introduction of the electric starter,

that was in 1912, pioneered by Charles Kettering

and Henry M. Leyland at Cadillac,

created the first compelling need

for onboard electrical power storage.

This innovation eliminated the dangerous

and laborious hand crank starting process

that had resulted in injuries and even fatalities

when engines backfired during starting attempts.

Battery technology during this period

was obviously primitive by modern standards.

The lead acid battery invented

by the French physicist Gaston Planté in 1859

provided the foundational chemistry

that would remain largely unchanged for over a century.

These early automotive batteries were heavy.

They needed regular maintenance.

They had limited capacity.

However, they offered an advantage of being rechargeable

unlike the primary cells that had been used

in earlier electrical applications.

So when do we go to 12 volts?

Well, the shift from six to 12 volts

represents one of the most significant

standardization changes in the automotive industry,

occurring primarily between about 1953 and 1956.

General Motors led the transition,

introducing 12 volt systems on premium models

like the Cadillac, the Oldsmobile

and Buick Roadmaster in 1953.

The changeover was not arbitrary,

but driven by compelling technical and economic factors

that made higher voltage systems increasingly necessary.

So how do we get to where we are today?

With a primary catalyst for 12 volts

was the growing electrical demands

of more sophisticated cars.

Postwar automobiles featured larger,

higher compression engines

that required a more powerful starting system.

Six volt systems were reaching their limits

in providing adequate cranking power for modern engines

and vehicles were becoming more electrically complex

with improved lighting, radios, heaters

and accessories that demanded greater power delivery.

The physics underlying the transition

reveal the fundamental advantages of higher voltage systems,

one in which Tesla talked often about.

According to Ohm's Law,

for any given power requirement,

doubling the voltage halves the current.

Now this relationship has profound implications

for wiring size, component design and system efficiency.

You see at 12 volts,

the same electrical power could be delivered

using thinner, lighter and less expensive copper wiring.

This reduction in copper requirements

was particularly significant in the 1950s.

Copper prices were rising and automotive manufacturers

looking for new ways to reduce material costs

and improve performance.

By 1955, all General Motors vehicles

had moved to 12 volt systems

and other American automakers were done by about 1956.

This immensely rapid industry-wide change

demonstrates the compelling advantage of high voltage systems.

However, some manufacturers, particularly in Europe,

maintained six volts for a bit longer.

Volkswagen, for instance, didn't go 12 volts completely

until 1967 for some of their models,

reflecting marketing conditions and vehicle requirements.

The success of the good old reliable 12 volts

might suggest that further voltage increases

would be logical.

How did we do that in 1955 and in 2025

be using essentially the same technology?

Well, during the 1990s, we tried to change it.

There was a consortium of automotive makers and suppliers

which tried to go 42 volts,

just like Tesla is trying to get the industry

to go 48 volt now.

This initiative recognized that modern vehicles

were straining the capacity of 12 volt systems,

particularly as they incorporated

more sophisticated electronics, larger power steering,

and increasing numbers of electrical accessories.

The proposed 42 volt system promised many of the same

advantages that drove six to 12 volts transition,

reduced current requirements, smaller gauge wires,

improved efficiency, and better performance

for high power components.

However, unlike the earlier transition,

the 42 volts initiative failed to gain industry-wide

acceptance and was abandoned completely by 2009.

Several factors contributed to the failure,

while the automotive supply chain had become more complex

and established around 12 volt components by the 1990s.

Unlike the 1950s, I mean, the car industry

was pretty vertically integrated at the time.

Component suppliers were fewer.

By the 1990s, the ecosystem had thousands

of specialized suppliers,

each with significant investments

in their 12 volt manufacturing.

The cost and complexity of transitioning an entire ecosystem

was just prohibitive without any kind of clear

and compelling advantage that easily outweighed

the transition costs.

So where do we go then to 2025?

Well, advances in power electronics,

more efficient motors, improved control systems

were all enabling manufacturers to get more performance

from the humble 12 volt system

that had been previously impossible.

These tech improvements reduced the urgency

for any kind of voltage system change,

allowing manufacturers to delay the expensive

and complex transition to running higher voltage.

So why is 12 volts so essential?

When you say, well, I'm riding in an EV

that's got a 400, 809, I mean, in China,

1000 volts traction battery underneath me

that could be 80, 100, 200 kilowatt hours.

And you're putting a small 12 volt battery

in the front or somewhere of my car,

which can go flat.

And gosh, mine did twice in my Hyundai Kona

that I owned for the year that I had it.

And boy was that inconvenient

and I was cursing the 12 volt.

Modern EVs operate with a really fascinating

dual voltage architecture

that probably seems counterintuitive

to the casual observer.

While the propulsion system relies

on high voltage battery packs from 400 to 800 volts,

typically virtually every EV

has a separate 12 volt system for auxiliary functions.

This architectural design reflects careful engineering

considerations that balance performance,

safety cost and practicality.

The fundamental reason for still sticking

a 12 volt in your EV is the enormous voltage gap

between high voltage propulsion

and the voltage requirements

of everything else that runs in the car.

Direct connection of accessories

like your interior lighting, the radio,

or even your power windows to a 400 volt supply

creates a really severe safety hazard,

requires completely different component design.

And it only takes one thing to go wrong

for you to touch something that is live

and that's a really bad day for you.

A 12 volt system provides familiar, safe, tested,

cost effective platforms

for powering the hundreds of electrical components

inside a modern EV.

This dual voltage approach allows EV makers

to leverage the extensive ecosystem

of 12 volt automotive supply chains

developed over decades.

The door locks, the window motors,

the seat adjusters, the lighting, the infotainment,

countless other things

that electrical things do for you in your EV

can be integrated quickly, cheaply, with no modification.

This compatibility represents enormous cost savings

and reduced development time compared to doing,

well, what they did for the Cybertruck

and designing entirely new component families

for different voltage levels.

The 12 volt battery in an EV is critical,

as I alluded to a moment ago,

with my problems, with my Hyundai,

and you can't easily replicate that

by the high voltage system.

Perhaps most importantly,

your little humble 12 volt battery provides power

for the vehicle to even start up and shut down.

When an EV is technically turned on,

what happens is the 12 volt system energizes

the vehicle's electronic control units,

the brains, the dashboard displays,

the diagnostic systems,

and all of that happens

before your high voltage battery pack is even activated.

This staging process ensures safe

and controlled initialization of your vehicle.

One of the most crucial roles in your 12 volt battery

is operating the contactors.

Now these contactors connect and disconnect

the high voltage battery from the rest of the vehicle.

These heavy-duty, electromechanical switches

require a 12 volt power supply to close,

effectively enabling the traction battery to come alive.

Without a functioning 12 volts,

even an EV with a fully charged high voltage battery

is effectively dead, it's immobilized.

This dependency explains why a dead 12 volt battery

is one of the most common causes of an EV breakdown,

despite the propulsion battery being fully charged.

And yes, like I say, twice,

I had to get the emergency key out of the key fob on my Kona,

let myself in, pop the bonnet,

and very simply, just attach a little battery booster pack

that I had, I think one time I did jump leads

and then one time I had to add a little battery pack

that I just attached, just enough

to spark the Kona back into life, pardon the button.

Now I don't know if they've fully got the handle

on top of all the Hyundai Kia 12 volt gremlins

that I see in the forums,

but it was an instant fix,

and all of a sudden the car came back to life.

Now in theory, that should never have happened.

In theory, if the 12 volt got low,

the car should wake itself up and recharge the 12 volts

with a step down converter from the traction battery.

That was clearly not happening.

The 12 volt also does essential safety,

particularly during emergency situations,

in the event of a high voltage system failure or an accident,

the 12 volt battery ensures that critical safety systems

are operational, like hazard lights,

emergency comm systems, door locks even.

This redundancy is mandated by safety rakes

many places around the world

and provides crucial backup power

when there is an issue with the traction battery.

Beyond emergency functions,

the 12 volt system powers a vast array

of the comfort and convenience features

that you interact with daily.

These include anything from your,

the squirter on your windscreen wiper

to the mirror positioning, the climate control fans.

Look at everything, isn't it?

It's the charging ports for your phones

and they seem minor, don't they?

But all of them rely on that old fashioned technology.

So the charging and maintenance of a 12 volt in an EV

involves a really sophisticated power management system

that differs significantly

from traditional combustion cars.

So for most of us that spent our lifetime driving non EVs,

there is an alternator.

It's an engine driven alternator.

Whenever I've seen perhaps my wife parked up for,

you know, a long time in our old cars

with the air conditioning on and things like that,

I've said, hey, just start the engine for a bit

and make sure the battery doesn't go flat.

EVs on the other hand use DC DC converters.

They step down high voltage power

and charge the 12 volt battery.

These electronic systems are way more complex

than mechanical alternators,

but offer greater precision and efficiency

in power conversion.

DC DC converters operate continuously

while the vehicle is in use,

maintaining the 12 volt battery at optimal charge levels,

which let's face it is probably about 14 or 14.2 volts

when it's all up and running.

The 12 volt battery is rarely at 12 volts,

but that's not ready for this podcast.

When the EV is plugged in for charging,

many systems also activate DC DC converters

to maintain the 12 volt battery,

ensuring it remains healthy during extended periods

if your vehicle is not driven.

Modern EVs also incorporate intelligent BMSs,

battery management systems that monitor the 12 volts

in a way more accurate way than combustion cars do.

And if the 12 volts charge is dropping,

things like parasitic loads,

those are security systems

that is telematics always on functions.

You don't wanna be able to open up the app on your car,

on your phone and look at your car.

You want your car to always be alive in many ways.

Unlock it, lock it, turn the heating and cooling on.

Then in that case, even when the car's empty,

the DC, and it's not plugged in,

DC DC converter kicks in and restores the power levels.

This proactive management prevents a dead battery

in situations that are common

in either the really early EV designs

or like I say, they've struggled, haven't they?

Yes, I'll be careful what I've said.

They have lots of money and expensive lawyers,

but yeah, let's take a break

and I'll have a slurp of this coffee,

we'll come back and we'll finish off part one.

Yeah, this is gonna be a two-parter,

because what am I at, six, eight, 17 minutes?

Yeah, this is a two-parter.

We'll do part two tomorrow, but I'll come back

and I'll do the second half of part one in just a moment.

Stick around, back in a moment.

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So we're talking about why EVs don't just go 48 volt

because Tesla say this is the way forward for the industry.

The industry, respectfully disagrees.

So this is why it's not an easy fix

or the work of a moment.

The 12 volt wiring system in modern EVs

is one of the most complex electrical networks

in consumer products.

There's literally hundreds of wiring circuits.

There's thousands of connections

and sophisticated control modules

managing everything inside the car.

Detailed wiring harness layouts in a vehicle chassis

illustrate electrical system complexity

in modern electric vehicles when you see them.

Understanding the architecture is really crucial

for appreciating why the auto industry

has maintained 12 volt standards

despite better alternatives according to some.

Modern 12 volt systems extend far beyond

a point-to-point wiring system

that was found in early vehicles.

Contemporary designs include network architectures,

multiple ECUs, electronic control units.

They all talk through mostly standardized protocols,

things like CAN buses,

which are controller area network, CAN CAN bus systems.

These networks allow an individual component

to then share information or coordinate operations,

enabling things like automatic headlight activation

when the sensor says it's getting dark.

The windscreen wipers working

when it says the windscreen's wet,

although Tesla does that with cameras,

debatably, and integrated climate control systems as well.

The implementation of 12 volt systems

involves really extensive wiring harnesses

that snake throughout a vehicle structure,

connecting components from the engine compartment

to the passenger cabin, to the cargo area,

to the external lighting.

These wiring harnesses are designed

to withstand extreme temperature variations,

vibration, moisture exposure,

electromagnetic interference,

and they maintain reliable electrical connections

for the life of the vehicle, at least in theory.

The complexity of routing these harnesses

through modern vehicle structures,

which must accommodate safety systems,

comfort features, manufacturing constraints,

represents one of the most significant

engineering challenges that's never talked about.

In fact, when I sold my MG ZS-CV

and it came to give it the once-over,

the rear high-level brake light wasn't working,

and it's simply because the action

of opening the boot and closing the boot,

that was a three-year-old or four-year-old MG,

the cables had just worn and worn through.

And of course, MG dealt with that through the warranty

really quickly, I think mostly quickly,

and fixed it, and fixed the wiring in that area,

all completely under warranty, no questions asked,

because yeah, within three or four years,

you should be able to open the boot

and for the wiring loom not to perish.

It's difficult stuff.

The scope of systems controlled by 12-volt power

in modern vehicles is comprehensive,

encompassing every aspect of the vehicle operation,

are literally apart from propulsion.

That's how important it is

in terms of climate control.

The fan, the actuator, the control electronics

that manage the temperature, the humidity,

the air distribution, modern HVAC systems

have multiple zones, automatic control, air quality sensors,

and integration with other vehicle systems

to optimize comfort, and in some cases,

then minimize energy consumption of the traction battery.

Just that one system alone is fabulously complicated.

Safety systems as well have been transformed

over the last couple of decades,

and they're all critically dependent

on the 12-volt systems, airbags, seat belt pretensioners,

stability control, anti-lock brake systems,

advanced drive resistance features,

yep, they all rely on that little humble 12-volt.

These systems must operate with absolute reliability

and require backup power systems to ensure functionality,

the integration of these systems

with other functions as well

means they all have to communicate and talk.

There has to be redundancy,

infotainment and communications,

another really big one as well.

EVs these days all come with massive

multiple touchscreen displays, navigation systems.

They're all wirelessly connected.

Smartphones are integrated.

They've all got premium audio systems.

They must all be responsive and reliable.

We expect them to work just all of the time,

and all of those parts are designed from suppliers

and supply chains and manufacturers on a 12-volt basis.

The maintenance and service of 12-volt systems

in modern vehicles requires specialized knowledge

and equipment reflecting the increasing complexity

of these electrical networks.

Unlike earlier vehicles where electrical problems

could often be diagnosed, you know,

back in the day, if there was a problem,

crack out your simple multimeter.

Modern 12-volt systems are not quite the same.

Sophisticated diagnostic equipment

capable of communicating with various ECUs

and interpreting very complex fault codes

are needed just to find where the cable is broken.

The manufacturing of 12-volt wiring harnesses

represents a huge portion of not only vehicle assembly

but cost as well.

These harnesses must be designed

for a specific vehicle model,

incorporating precise routing,

precise connector specs,

integration with the other systems in the vehicle.

The assembly process requires careful attention

to quality, protection from environmental factors,

and changes to 12-volt system architecture

would require extensive re-engineering

of these manufacturing processes

contributing to the industry's reluctance

to abandon proven designs.

So we're asking, this seems really old technology.

Why don't we just change?

I think I've probably spelled out a couple of reasons.

The persistence of 12-volt in the automotive industry

represents one of the most entrenched

industrial ecosystems in manufacturing,

involving thousands of suppliers,

billions of dollars in infrastructure,

and decades of experience.

The ecosystem extends far beyond automotive manufacturers.

It goes to the batteries, the wiring,

the cabling, the connectors, the semiconductors,

and everyone else that makes 12-volt stuff.

Economies of scale are staggering.

Global automotive suppliers have invested

hundreds of billions of dollars over time,

cumulatively, in 12-volt manufacturing,

R&D, production facilities, Bosch, Shvarta, Johnson.

They've all established worldwide production networks,

and they make millions of 12-volt batteries a year,

and supply chains are all optimized

for the specific chemistries, sizes, and performances.

Component suppliers have developed

comprehensive product lines all around 12-volts,

whether it is as simple as saying

we're going to design a new EV.

So let's get the catalog out,

and what are we going to buy from our suppliers?

I mean, not a catalog, is it?

It's online.

But you know what I mean?

And they go on like,

so we're going to need a power steering system,

we're going to need some electric motors

for the windows and this and that.

Well, good luck finding stuff that's not 12-volt.

So your hands are tied, even if you are an EV maker,

that wants to move forward.

Relays, like a simple relay, a switch.

These suppliers compete intensively on,

well, price, obviously, quality and performance,

and they're all 12-volt,

driving continuous improvements and cost reductions

that make any alternative impossible to justify economically.

The competitive pressure within the 12-volt ecosystem

results in very specialized, very highly optimized designs

that have now maximized the performance,

the EVs we drive are incredible,

and we want them at very cheap costs.

And I was looking only today at this car, wow.

And I see that the Dacia Spring

has now dipped below 12,000 pounds in the UK.

Okay, it's like 11,990.

And that's a lot of money, don't get me wrong.

If you haven't got 12 grand,

I haven't got 12 grand sitting around to buy a new car,

but that's still a lot of money.

But equally, when you think about what goes in

to building, designing a brand new electric vehicle

and getting it on your driveway,

shipping it halfway around the world as well,

and it's less than 12,000 pounds.

And the spring, you know, it's not the best EV in the world,

but it's still an incredible cost reduction

of where we are, 12,000 pounds,

it's like 15,000 US dollars for a brand new city EV

that will do a lot of people just fine.

The competitive pressure in the ecosystem

means that, well, there's just no margin to spare.

The standardization of 12-volt systems

extends beyond individual components as well.

Think about testing, think about safety protocols,

think about all the service training globally

in the automotive industry.

Think about regulations in various countries, states,

regions, continents, automotive technicians worldwide

were all trained on 12-volt.

Diagnostic equipment is all 12-volt.

Safety procedures are optimized.

Transitioning to another voltage would require

one of the world's biggest retraining efforts

in the history of the car industry.

The economic analysis of transforming

from a 12-volt system to a 48,

it reveals complex trade-offs

that extend far beyond the components.

High voltage systems offer advantages

of efficiency, weight reduction, and performance.

These are all the things that Tesla's arguing for,

saying the industry needs to move on

and get itself updated.

The practical costs of implementing these changes

across the entire ecosystem, though, are enormous.

For individual car makers, the cost of transition,

re-engineering systems, wiring looms,

the harnesses, I should call them really,

redesigning them, validating the components,

then updating their own manufacturing and training.

Look, those costs, I suppose,

yeah, I don't run a car company

because I'm an idiot podcaster,

but I would guess they have to be amortized

across vehicle production volumes and programs,

and the benefits would have to be sufficient

to justify somebody at the end of the day

putting a signature on the bottom of the page

and saying, all right, let's do it.

The supplier ecosystem faces even greater challenges,

and investments in new manufacturing capability

have to be justified,

and boy, do we have no certainty at the minute

in the EV world with tariffs one minute

and tariffs gone the next.

Suppliers can't economically transition

to some magical new higher voltage system

without commitments from major automotive customers,

but car makers are reluctant to commit to a new system

without there being an established supplier network

out there that wants to go and do it,

like I say, they are getting the catalog out

and what should we buy?

Yeah, not much 48-volt stuff out there.

Consumer acceptance really represents

another economic factor that influences designs.

Consumers may not directly interact with it,

but they're sensitive to vehicle reliability,

service costs, availability of replacement parts,

and that might be an expensive replacement part.

It might be a part that you either can't get

or have to wait a long time for.

Service infrastructure and parts availability for 12 volts,

I think it's fair to say, it's all out there,

and it would take years to replicate.

Oh, I'll finish off by saying

that the electrical systems operate

within all these regulations in cars,

and they vary by region,

but they're all very specific

in terms of safety requirements,

electromagnetic compatibility, environmental standards.

These regulations have evolved over decades,

creating extensive documentation,

testing, and certification as well.

The safety implications of ditching 12-volton moving forward,

12-volt systems are considered safe for consumer interaction.

I mean, you can stick your tongue on a 12-volt battery

and you'll know about it,

but you can still live to fight another day.

High-voltage systems introduce an additional level of risk

that would need some modified service procedures

and these changes of cascading effects

through the automotive supply chain as well.

More I could go into on electromagnetic compatibility,

but probably neither the time nor the place on this podcast,

but before we go and then round out part one,

because we're knocking on half an hour, sorry about that,

is the Cybertruck.

Tesla's introduction of the Cybertruck in 2023

was a watershed moment in automotive electrical system design,

representing the first mainstream production vehicle

to implement a comprehensive, if not complete,

but comprehensive 48 volts low-voltage architecture.

The decision, they said,

wasn't merely an incremental improvement,

but a fundamental reimagining it

of how we should make electric vehicles

for the decades to come.

It challenged assumptions

that have guided automotive engineering for 70 years.

Well, the technical rationale for Tesla's 48-volt system

centered on the physics of electrical power distribution

and the specific challenges faced by EVs.

Unlike internal combustion engine vehicles,

EVs require electrical power for everything,

so everything is electrical.

Very little is mechanical.

Braking, power steering, climate cabin, it's all electrical.

The power requirements for these systems

with weight considerations critical for EV efficiency

are compelling reasons to make the transition.

Tesla's implementation focused on high power,

frequently used components,

where the benefits of going 48-volt are most pronounced.

The Cybertrux 48-volt system powers the radiator fans,

the HVAC blowers, the power steering motors.

Of course, it's steer by wire, the window motors,

all components that draw a significant amount of current

and operate regularly have all been transitioned.

By reducing the current requirements

for those components by a factor of four,

Tesla achieved substantial reductions

in wire gauge requirements,

leading to very significant weight savings

and improved efficiency as well.

The engineering challenge of implementing a 48-volt system

extended way beyond simply just increasing the voltage,

as I've explained.

Tesla developed their own custom components

for the Cybertruck as the existing automotive supply chain

offered some options, but they're limited.

The vertical integration approach allowed Tesla

to do what the industry did in the 1950s

and that was, well, be vertically integrated

to do it themselves and to optimize the components designed

for what vehicles of the era actually require.

All right, we should call it a day there and end the podcast

and we'll do part one and put it in the books.

And in 24 hours time, I'll come back and I'll do part two.

Why did Tesla go 48-volt with the Cybertruck?

How did Tesla go 48-volt with the Cybertruck?

And what were some of the challenges and solutions

they faced?

What's the advantage of doing it?

What did they do to every other automotive CEO?

They sent them something, but why would they ignore?

And we'll do a final comparison

of where we think the industry could, maybe should go.

Lots to discuss.

That's only part one.

Zoinks, Scoob.

Thanks for listening and I'll see you on the next one.

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