C.R.E.A.M. (The TDC Podcast) Jan 22, 2026

C.R.E.A.M. #66 - Ben's S2000 Broken, 16,000rpm 5 Pots And Insanely Fast Corvettes

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Car

Renault Clio 172 Exclusive

The Renault Clio 172 Exclusive is a special sporty model of the Clio, a small car made by Renault. It's known for being fun to drive and has a powerful engine for its size.

Term

fuel pump

The fuel pump is a part of the car that moves fuel from the tank to the engine. If it doesn't work, the car won't start or run properly.

Car

Renault Clio

The Renault Clio is a small car that is easy to drive and park, especially in cities. The 5-door version means it has extra doors, making it easier for people to get in and out.

Part

engine crane

An engine crane is a tool that helps lift engines out of cars. It makes it easier to take an engine out or put one back in without straining yourself.

Term

Carvertical check

A Carvertical check is like a background check for a car. It tells you if the car has been in accidents or has any problems, helping you decide if it's a good buy.

Car

Honda S2000

The Honda S2000 is a small sports car that is fun to drive. It's known for its powerful engine and great handling, making it popular with car lovers.

Company

Evolution Auto Works

Evolution Auto Works is a garage that focuses on fixing Honda cars. They know a lot about how these cars work and can help with any problems.

Term

timing chain

A timing chain is a part of the engine that helps keep everything moving in sync. If it wears out or breaks, it can cause serious engine problems.

Part

dipstick

A dipstick is a long, thin tool that you pull out of the engine to check how much oil is inside. It tells you if you need to add more oil to keep the engine running well.

Term

oil pressure

Oil pressure tells you how well the oil is flowing in the engine. It's important because it keeps the engine parts lubricated and running smoothly.

Term

rattling chain

A rattling chain means that a part of the engine called the timing chain is loose. If it's not fixed, it can cause big problems for the engine.

Part

oil pan

An oil pan is a part of the engine that holds the oil needed for lubrication. It's important for keeping the engine running smoothly.

Part

oil filter

An oil filter cleans the oil that goes into your engine. It removes dirt and debris to keep the engine running well.

Term

When an engine 'burns oil', it means that the engine is using up oil while running, which can cause problems if it runs low. Some cars are known for this issue, and it's important to keep an eye on oil levels to avoid damage.

Car

Honda Jazz

The Honda Jazz is a small car that is great for city driving and has a lot of space inside. It's known for being reliable and using less fuel.

Term

custom cams

Custom cams are special parts in an engine that control how the valves open and close. Changing them can help the engine perform better and make more power.

Concept

project car

A project car is a car that someone buys to fix up or customize. It's usually not in perfect condition and needs work, which can be a fun challenge for car lovers.

Part

oil change

An oil change is when you replace the old oil in a car's engine with new oil. This helps keep the engine running well and can prevent damage.

Car

Honda K20

The Honda K20 is a type of engine made by Honda. It's known for being powerful and is often used in cars like the Civic. Many car enthusiasts like to modify it to make their cars faster.

Car

Honda That Honda

The Honda That's is a small car that’s easy to drive around town and has a clever design to make the most of its space. It’s popular because it’s reliable and good for city driving.

Brand

Ligier

Ligier is a car brand from France that makes very small cars called microcars. These cars are designed for city driving and are usually easy to park because they are so small.

Car

Porsche 959

The Porsche 959 is a very fast car made in the 1980s that had some of the best technology for its time. It’s known for being one of the quickest cars back then and helped Porsche become famous for making high-performance vehicles.

Car

Trabant

The Trabant is a car that was made in East Germany. It's famous for being very basic and not very powerful, which makes it a part of automotive history.

Term

miles per hour

Miles per hour is a way to show how fast something is going. If a car is going 60 miles per hour, it means it can travel 60 miles in one hour.

Car

Mclaren F1

The McLaren F1 is a very fast sports car made in the 1990s that many people consider one of the best ever. It has a unique design with the driver sitting in the middle, which makes it stand out from other cars.

Brand

Evoque

The Evoque is a small luxury SUV made by Land Rover. It's known for looking good and being able to handle rough terrain.

Term

rake

Rake is the angle of the front and back of a car. If the back is lower than the front, it has a rake, which can make the car look more stylish and sporty.

Car

BMW M3

The BMW M3 is a fast and sporty car that's part of the BMW 3 Series. They're planning to make an electric version of it, which is new for this type of car.

Concept

electric version

An electric version of a car runs on electricity instead of gasoline. This means it doesn't produce exhaust fumes and is better for the environment.

Term

all electric

'All electric' means the car runs only on electricity and doesn't use gas or diesel. This type of car is better for the environment because it doesn't produce pollution from an exhaust.

Car

BMW M4

The BMW M4 is a fast sports car made by BMW. It's designed for people who love driving and want a car that performs really well.

Term

four motors

If a car has four motors, it means each wheel can move on its own. This helps the car handle better and be more powerful.

Brand

MV Agusta

MV Agusta is a famous Italian brand that makes motorcycles. They are known for their stylish designs and fast performance.

Car

MV Agusta F4

The MV Agusta F4 is a high-performance motorcycle that's very fast and has a unique look. It's popular among motorcycle enthusiasts for its speed and design.

Term

horsepower

Horsepower measures how powerful an engine is. The higher the horsepower, the faster and more powerful the car can be.

Car

Audi Allroad

The Audi Allroad is a type of car that can handle both city driving and rougher roads. It looks like a regular car but is built to be more durable and comfortable for different types of journeys.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette

The Chevrolet Corvette ZR1X is a powerful version of the Corvette sports car. It's built for racing and has features that make it very fast and exciting to drive.

Car

Ford Mustang

The Ford Mustang is a classic American car that looks sporty and is known for being fast. The new versions, like the Mustang SC, are designed to be even more powerful and exciting to drive.

Car

Suzuki Swift Sport

The Suzuki Swift Sport is a small car that is fun to drive and has a sporty look. It’s a good choice for people who want an affordable car that still feels exciting on the road.

Car

Land Range Rovers

The Range Rover is a fancy SUV that can go off-road and also feels very comfortable inside. People talk about it because it’s a symbol of luxury and can handle rough roads easily.

Car

You guys are so annoying, man.

Imagine they may in a lab.

An orange.

Right, okay, yeah, okay.

What is this podcast?

Hello, and welcome back to the CREAM podcast.

The Cars Rule Everything Around Me podcast with myself, Will Edwin to my right,

and then Benjamin behind the camera.

Lovely, very, very nice.

At the beginning of every single podcast, we ask ourselves to Cars Rule

or ruin everything around us.

Edwin, would you like to kick us off?

No, I wouldn't.

No, I wouldn't like to start us off.

No, visual viewers will note that we're in our other unit at the moment.

It's also quite echo-y, apologies.

That's because we've been working in here on my Clio.

It's only been a few days since we lasted the podcast,

and Ben said at the end of that podcast,

oh, God, I did a podcast again in two days.

What are we going to talk about?

Oh, things have happened in that time.

Things have happened.

I said, I was so excited last podcast, I bought a Clio 172 exclusive,

and it was just a little issue.

It wouldn't run it, just a fuel pump wouldn't run or something like that.

It was cranking.

What's behind me, Will?

There is a Renault Clio 172 phase one exclusive with no engine in it,

and the engine is currently outside with an engine crane there,

and lots of bits to my right.

The engine was blown on it.

We thought, we were like, okay, well, we want to make the video kind of interesting,

so we'll long it out a little bit.

We'll test if it's got spark, if it's got compression,

and then we'll work out, okay, it's just got no fuel.

Let's do that.

And then we put the compression tester in it.

Well, actually, I'll save a little bit for the video,

but yeah, it turned out the engine was blown.

So, we've filled the engine today, which is great.

Which is great.

Which is great, but I'm not deterred.

I'm buying another engine for it.

We're chucking another engine in it, and it's going to drive.

We've all been there.

Yeah, we've all been there.

So, I'm rule of ruin.

That's the one for you.

I think that is a solid ruin.

Yeah, it's a really tough one.

It's a really rough one.

I'm going to say a rule, mainly because there's no reason to take a ruin,

but despite this, this should put anyone off.

Right.

But I've been looking at it going, I should call her.

I've been considering messaging the old owner of my blue car,

being like, how could we make this deal happen?

But obviously, yellow Clio, I still want a liquid yellow 197 or a 200.

The bet's still there.

I've got till November.

Worst bet ever.

You got offered one.

Well, I did get offered one.

On the podcast a few weeks ago, I was even considering it.

There's a chat poo message me.

This has been going on a while, and actually,

I haven't responded to his most recent message yet.

So, you may be hearing this for the first time,

but I'm still considering it.

Now, it is an extremely dodgy one, and that is somewhat fortunate.

Yes.

So, once again, we have been sponsored by the guys at Carvertical.

We're very, very appreciative.

Shall I cover?

Another sponsor on the podcast helps keep the podcast chugging along.

It means we can pay Ben's exorbitant fee.

It's crazy.

Crazy.

Every single week.

Good life.

The lights might go off halfway through because we can't keep them on.

Yeah.

And then we'll have to take someone's going to come and take the sofa away.

And also, it's got to be done.

He offered it to me, and he said,

It's cheap.

There is a reason it's cheap.

Liquid yellow cars are expensive.

Yeah.

And this was very, very cheap.

I'd say it was maybe 25% of the value.

He said, do a Carvertical check, and then tell me if you still want it.

So, I did do a Carvertical check on it.

Now, obviously, they have their Carvertical score out of 100.

And what's the score?

37.

That might be one of the lowest.

No, that is, I think the lowest we've seen.

37.

It's a real low one.

That four records of damage.

Okay.

It was written off in 2016.

Yeah.

Okay.

Candy.

So, just the ones written off?

Oh, Candy.

That's fine.

Yeah.

No, that's fine.

And then it was written off again in 2024.

Cat N.

So, the equivalent.

Oh, okay.

So, the structure.

And then it had an assessment for more damage in 2024.

Okay.

That's the same year.

And then it had an assessment for more damage last year, 2025.

Okay.

I think just take it away from Amazon.

Now, if you use the logic of me buying this, I'd go out and buy that.

Yeah.

There is a perfect car to buy it.

As far as I'm aware, it runs on a bump start.

It does run on a bump start.

But it is liquid yellow.

And that's cool.

It is liquid yellow.

But so, I'm still considering that car.

I'm not going to name the person selling it yet unless I do buy it.

But it is very, very tempting.

So, I'm hoping that one sticks around.

But obviously, if you guys are going to buy a car and you can't,

maybe not a Renault, do your research.

Yeah.

If you're going to do that.

Because people might list that car without mentioning anything.

You can go and look at it.

And you can find, oh, it's got a little bit of a crack on the bum here.

And you get some money off there.

But you're having that information being armed with the information

that it's been written off three times.

Yeah.

It's quite helpful.

Because that one, it shows me assessments.

So, most other checks won't show you an assessment.

They'll show you if it's been written off.

But obviously, there's plenty of times where someone will have a crash in a car.

But if it doesn't write it off, you don't necessarily have any paperwork on.

You've got a paper trail that has had damage.

Whereas car vertical will say, no, you have an assessment at this point.

Then you can look at that.

And it will say, it's the left.

It's the rear.

It's the front.

So, you can look at that and say, and see, oh, okay, the paint is different.

But now I know why.

But obviously, if you guys are going to do a check,

make sure you use our code, CREAM.

You get 20% off your next check.

Use the link in our description.

Thank you very much to CarVertical.

And shout out CREAMers who are buying cars this week.

Yep.

Not Reynolds, please.

Please don't do it.

Benjamin.

This is a biggie.

Again, again, I just want to call back to the bit where you said,

you know, it's only two days.

What could happen in those two days?

What happened in those two days?

Nothing.

I've got no daily.

No?

Okay.

Tomorrow is a day where we'll find out possibly,

because that's what you're doing tomorrow, right?

Oh, that's weird.

No, no, no.

I just meant, I meant, like, what happened in the week?

No, so, so, dailies, we're on.

No, no.

Yeah, I mean, yeah.

We're talking about daily, your S2000, you drove today.

This one.

Is it, are we telling the story?

Yeah.

Okay, great.

Well, I can start it.

Oh, please.

After you.

I got home.

Actually, after the last podcast, we filmed it.

Okay.

I drove home.

I've been coming here every day this week.

So it's been a little bit of a long back and forth.

I think for newcomers, how many miles do you do each way?

90.

So you're almost 200 mile round trip.

Yeah, it's quite tough.

People may ask, why don't you stay in a hotel?

I don't know that either.

But anyway, I drove home.

Why don't you buy the hotel?

Yep.

Questions.

Yeah, question.

Well, you know, keep those checks coming.

Drill way home.

I was parking my car and I was doing little maneuvers.

So the revs aren't that high, but I kept J-Term.

I kept sort of, I had a bit of a case of Honda foot.

A little bit of a bum, bum, bum as I'm doing it.

I heard this as it came down the revs.

So I kept like, you know, we're at 1500 RPM coming down.

I heard like a little rattle.

Okay.

And I thought, nah, that's a heat shield.

That'd be fine.

I went to bed and it was fine.

Next day.

And did you literally honk shoe?

You were, you were, didn't care.

Oh, yeah.

There's a certain type of sleep you have after doing a big day here.

But it didn't even enter your mind.

I just went, the kind of sleep someone would know timing chain rattle.

We just have.

Well, I was worried about it, but I was like, well, it's dark.

There's no street lights.

I can't bother to look at it now.

That would be a problem.

I'm going to have a look at it tomorrow.

Next morning I get out.

I drive to work another 90 miles, which is great.

I get to the unit and I pull up and I'm like, that's odd.

And Edwin's outside the unit and I start going, can you ever look at this?

And we just start giving it a rev and, and Edwin, Edwin's very understanding

when it comes to cars, he tries to make me feel better.

Also knows what I'm like.

And I could tell he's like, yeah, no, it'd be fine.

I watched him look at it and I watched him look at it closely and I could see him be like,

yeah, it'd be fine, but I knew that it wasn't fine.

And he said to me the words, take it to Evolution Auto Works.

You just see what they think.

And I was like, okay, that's not good.

So I took it down there.

And anyway, yeah, it was chain rattle.

So tough.

Well, you've, you've, you've left out a little part of it, which is obviously we listen to the car.

We said, that's sad.

It does sound weird.

It sounds like it's coming from the front of the timing area.

Let's take it to Evolution Auto Works.

They're Honda boys.

They're going to listen to it and go, oh, that's the old speck of loser that may need that change.

And they found it.

And immediately he said, yeah, okay.

That's a weird noise.

And where am I, Ben left a little bit earlier with Patrick, the social guy,

because you were going to potentially film a video about this.

And Ben asked for that first to be deleted.

It's most of it.

We have a few shots.

And so when I arrived about 20 minutes late or 15 minutes later,

and as we pulled up, I saw the look of sadness Patrick.

Patrick looked over like what I can imagine if, if you look, if like someone's pet or something

got run over and you were running over to the scene, someone just looked over and went,

mate, it's not worth it.

Don't go over there.

Give me a sec.

It's not worth it.

He looked at us with, with, with not happy.

And then Ben looked over, unhappy.

And Adam looked over unhappy.

I said to him, I went, that's not great.

Also, he's so, he's so, I want to have a, not a rant, but he's so, you guys are so annoying.

You said to me, right?

Because obviously we're doing other stuff.

I don't want to hide out the whole day with my own car, but also I need to get home.

If it's a case of my car needs a time chain, fine.

There you go.

Fine.

Mate, if you could do that at lunch, that'd be great.

No, what I'm saying is I know I can't go home.

I'll leave it here.

Like it happens.

It was hadn't gone.

It was just rattling.

So it's like, it's, it's saveable at that point.

So I was like, cool.

And they said, we're going to get lunch.

We've ordered pasta from our favorite pasta place.

But just a shout out to Toto in Wokingham.

And then for some reason, even after they said,

we're going to get lunch whilst you go to there, they just arrived at the exact moment

that they found out what was wrong.

Because we realized that Patrick wouldn't be able to get home if,

if neither would you, if there was an issue with the car.

So we went to go.

Yeah, but I wasn't going to leave it there anyway.

I'll bring it back.

So people go eat their pasta.

So anyway, anyway, I turn up and we get out.

We're like, what's happening?

And Adam says, yeah, there's, there's an issue.

There was some sort of issue here.

And then while he's saying that he's,

he's just kind of diagnosing, just checking things.

And he checks the dipstick and there's nothing on the dipstick.

And he goes smooth.

And he says to Ben, what?

There's no, there's no oil on the dipstick.

Actually, his exact words were, um,

he said it would help if you put some oil in it.

Everyone went silent for a second.

I went, what?

He went, hold on, let me, let me just double check.

Clean the dipstick, put a dipstick in,

pull that out.

Clear.

Nothing.

Well, that, that, to be fair,

there was a tiny bit on the end.

No, there wasn't.

The first time there was when he cleaned it

and he put it in again, he said,

there's nothing on this.

Because it took a certain amount of oil

to get it to make a mark.

So the amount of oil that was Ben,

Ben has asked that we do not say the amount of oil.

Redacted.

Redacted amount of oil.

It doesn't really help if you tell,

it implies it a lot.

The Epstein files.

It was missing some oil.

The Rogers files.

I mean, it had oil, it had some oil in it,

but yeah, not enough.

I'd say it had some, but it could have a lot more in it.

It should have a lot more in it.

And they said, well, we'll start by going like this.

And then, oh, you started up and it went away.

Yeah.

Well, Mr. What?

That's amazing.

Don't think so.

I think it's because it has a oil pressure,

the tension on the timing chain,

which they thought it could be,

because that's what goes on those quite a lot.

Obviously started working

because it had oil pressure again.

Yeah.

So I was quite happy.

Yeah, you were.

I had a quite tough day.

This is, now I want to, I want to,

I would like this on record.

Yeah.

This was the same day I found out

that my engine had blown up in my car

that was freshly new to me.

And yet Ben was like,

Yeah, but no, but it's different.

It's different.

Why is it different?

Because you are.

I got no support from you.

Because you don't care.

You just don't care.

I've never seen a man,

because also you have more cars.

You live, you live relatively close by

in relation to, in comparison to where I live.

You don't rely on it as much.

And granted, I know it's, it's pain,

but also you have the skill to change the engine.

The engine is 300 pounds.

It's a five grand engine, minimum.

It's not nice though, is it?

You know, to have your engine just die.

No, of course not.

Whereas you, you, you, this is,

you had a, you had an escape.

What happened first?

I mean, in the long run,

in the long run,

you might have done some damage,

but we'll get, you know, we'll leave that for the time being.

You'll sleep on that or you won't sleep at all.

But you were like, that's it.

That's it.

It's gone.

Engine gone or I'm going to have to do a timing chain.

I'm looking at four figures plus here,

like pocket change to Ben.

And then someone put a, someone put a redacted amount of oil

into a car and it was fixed.

And it was fine.

No.

That is, that is, that's like a very annoying.

I'd actually rather it was a chain.

You should have done the lottery that evening.

I'd rather it was a chain.

What?

Because then I could just change the chain

and the engine's fine.

Whereas right now, what's happened is, is it's been run.

It is.

I don't want peace.

Sorry, I have problems.

Obviously a rattling chain means the chain is loose.

So it could go, right?

But I would then just wouldn't drive it and get it done.

Whereas the issue I have now is that the,

is that what's happened to it is I've possibly done damage

inside the engine I don't know about.

But that's, that's better because you don't know.

That's not, that's the difference between me and you.

Because for you, you're like, it's no issue.

For me, I'm like, I don't know.

Exactly.

You don't know.

So here's one thing I would say you should do.

No, no, no.

I don't know.

I was actually, yeah, well, you should do that.

I should.

That's dumb.

I'm going to say that now, but everyone has done it.

Well, I was, I haven't done that.

I'm going back down a second after your point, but go on.

Okay.

Um, it is kind of dumb.

No, I think you should do an oil change soon.

Yeah.

Like ASAP.

You know, like right now, as soon as I have a daily, I'll sort that out.

Well, what the, you know, so next week, don't worry about an oil pan.

You can just use like a couple of miles or something.

Yeah.

Just put like a couple, like two liters should do.

I do need to do that.

Why don't you do an oil change?

Because if, if there might have been any damage, you might as well,

if you've got a redacted percentage mix of oil now as well.

Plus we can cut open your oil filter and see if there is any metal shavings or spark.

Well, as soon as there's a daily, I don't want to drive that car.

I don't want to drive it in the salt.

I don't want to drive in the winter.

But if we do an oil change, you might feel better about it.

If you do an oil change and it's all looking clear and there isn't clumps of,

clumps of eggs in your oil filter.

Never good.

I'd be fair.

Luckily fried rice because of a, because of an unnamed scenario that happened recently

with the car.

Um, I'm quite gentle in it.

It's been spinning.

What?

Pirouette gate.

Pins.

I don't think that's what we call it.

I think we just call it redacted gate.

Okay.

Again, one of, one of the Roger's files that we released.

No, it won't be released that way.

I'll, I'll release it, but it will just be black squares across the entire figure.

Um, because of that, that car hasn't seen 9,000 RPM for weeks.

So you could see possibly four.

Now, what was the point you wanted to go back to?

My point is right.

I'm not, I'm admitting this, right?

I'm not, I'm, it is my fault.

It is my fault.

And I have been checking the oil, but not enough.

And what I didn't know, genuinely didn't know, because everyone said this,

they're like six people.

There was like a humiliation ritual.

To be fair, even if it was, we're very nice.

And, and like, they, they, they put oil, they gave a time up and they put oil in it

for free and stuff.

And that was very kind of them.

I, and how much?

I redacted them.

I wanted it for free enough where I felt like I should pay for it.

I was an invoice.

Do you know that person?

And you've done the filter as well.

No, I, I do appreciate that genuinely.

So thank you.

Even if it all works.

But for me, I was like, I didn't know.

Apparently it's a Honda thing, but they burn oil and everyone is going to go,

Oh, we said this.

You didn't.

Ben, I did.

Cause I said, you, you, me a Honda buddies.

We are, we have to top up our oil every few weeks.

I thought Honda's meant to be pretty bulletproof.

They are, but they burn oil because they rev so high.

But like a, like a 1.4 jazz might mean, might not need oil every now and then,

but not a 9,000 RPM engine in a six grand car.

So you know what?

So I, what I'm trying to say is sorry.

So I've been checking it, but not enough.

And I actually, to be fair, what they asked me when I last checked it,

I said like a week ago and I thought back on the drive home and it wasn't a week ago.

It's probably two or three years ago.

I personally love the part of the story that where he told us it wasn't his fault.

Yeah.

But now this is, this was, this was quite funny.

This was in the morning.

This is before Ben went to English law talks.

Ben got quite shirty with Will and I because we said because it was rattling

and we're like, well, is, we didn't say explicitly that it was your fault,

but we said, you have exacerbated this by not buying a daily.

And Ben said, it's not my fault.

Not how can any of this be my fault?

And it was, it was after, well, yeah, but that's why I thought that it was just

a normal mileage tensioner thing that happens with them.

And it took everything in me not to say when we were evolution or it's not my fault.

No, but that's a different situation.

Yeah, it is my fault 100%.

In that scenario is in the scenario where the, where the tensioning goes,

it's a maintenance thing.

They go on them.

So yeah, the start of the day when I thought it was a tensioner.

Look, God, I wish it was.

We live and we learn and maybe the bearings learn to live without oil.

Every day is a school day.

Yeah, I hate this.

1060 messages and comments being like,

also this is afterwards might be the closest I've seen Ben coming to actually

quitting class.

Ben was like, I'm not, I'm doing, I don't want to do cars for a moment.

I might win my little, my little bet with you because you were considering

selling it off and then you told a man who knows engines very well today that you might

and he said, oh, I'd be interested in that.

And then you told him this little story and he went, I don't want that anymore.

And he's owned one before.

He's owned, yeah.

Now you, you had a, you said, I want to talk about something on the podcast because of Matt.

What was it?

It was from when he was telling you about things to do.

Yeah.

So both Adam evolution works and Matt from the engine stuff we did today.

Both Adam very well know of in Hondas and Matt, you know, builds engines.

He said he was, he said he was developing custom cams.

Yeah.

4S 2000s.

They have both told me that something, is it a, is it a valve seat or a nut or something

cracks in the early AP ones?

It was, yeah.

It's the cap that I think the spring rides on.

And just drops into the engine, a valve drops the engine.

And they said, get that done.

And I think Matt said, he said to me, you should do that.

And he said, do it, do it.

And he said, do it.

Maybe 12 times.

And to the point where I started laughing because I was like, okay, this is this man,

he wants me to do this badly.

I need to do this.

It was almost like he was saying, no, no, like whatever's going on right now,

we need to drop.

We need to go and get your car.

We need to do this because it needs to be done.

Yeah.

He, he, he was, it's always panicking.

Sorry.

You sound like Michael Jackson there.

So anyway, that's that.

I, I, I, I feel like idiot and I'm embarrassed about it.

And, and hey, do you know what?

Let's let tens of thousands of people here about.

Can I ask how many times will you now check your oil?

Like how often?

I drove, I drove.

I've probably done, since we've done that, I've driven probably 180 miles.

And I already am nervous about checking my oil again.

Did you check your oil before you left last night?

No, no, because it was dark.

A question I think I know the answer to.

Do you have spare oil in the boot?

No.

Okay.

Oh, that's it then.

That's project car 101.

I'll buy some oil.

I need to do a change.

Go have oil.

I'll do a full oil change next week when I have a daily.

We have an oil sponsor and liters and liters and liters of oil.

Shout out, shout out, Michael.

Please.

Now you are my daily consultants, please.

Yeah, we will.

We will buy you a daily.

I am actually begging you at this point.

Wait, this is the K20.

Don't worry about putting oil in it.

So shall we move on to some news and anecdotes of the week?

Well, stay on Honda.

Stay on target.

Honda logo.

There it is.

This is a new.

It's not new.

This isn't new.

Can you speak by it?

Tell the folks what it's about.

But it is news.

No, no, no.

It's news, yeah.

But who put this in?

I put it in, but I don't know anything about it.

Ben knows more than me.

There's a new Honda expert.

But it's not new.

But it's the old logo, right?

It's not exactly the same.

When I was researching it, it's not exactly the same,

but it is basically the old.

The moment I saw it, I was like, that's the old one.

For folks listening, I'll describe it.

Here we go.

So please describe the original.

You're going to have to imagine a Honda logo and a scenario.

And then you're going to make it flat.

But what does it look like?

What's a normal Honda logo?

H in a square.

And it's chrome.

It's like a silvery.

And it's opposite of embossed.

Bevelled.

Nope.

Comes out of the screen, not into the screen.

I thought that is Bevelled, isn't it?

Okay.

It's 3D.

Not the opposite of a concave convex.

So it's convexed out of the screen.

Imagine that.

Take away the square it's in and then make it flat.

So it's just the H shape.

And then just stretch it out.

And then pull those H tops out.

Now, I know about this because at the beginning of last year,

they announced this logo.

And I know because my brother sent it to me

because he's a graphic designer and he likes to send me logos.

So I remember him telling me that.

And what it was originally was the electric.

For the new electric cars, they were using that logo.

And now they're using it for everything.

Oh, I do like it.

I don't mind it.

It feels a bit, you know, I don't really think it was necessary.

Yeah.

It feels just also that Honda H is iconic.

I wonder how much it cost.

Yeah.

So they went to Zion City.

Yeah.

Well, we saw that a million quid days.

Couple of miles.

They just raised the edge and went,

God damn it.

He's got it.

And then they probably went, hold on.

Make it black.

Stretch it out.

And then they put it in word and went,

Oh, that's not going to fit properly.

Yeah.

Send it over.

It's fine.

Yeah.

It's fine.

It's Friday.

Because the old one fits nicely as like a badge on a car.

Yeah.

It's sort of going to float.

Yeah.

It looks like an aftermarket sticker or something.

It looks less like an H to me now and like something else.

Like what?

What other letter?

Do I look like?

Yeah.

Like an A.

Not like a bridge.

It does look like a bridge.

That's fair.

Yeah.

That's a good one.

You see, it's like, you know what?

That's what the marketing firm would have said.

They said, it's a bridge between petrol cars and electric cars.

Do you know what they said?

And we're on the bridge, but it's one of those folding bridges

where sometimes it goes up and let's fall in.

When the electric one came out, they announced what it was the design was.

I'll read it to you.

I think what it is, is it's actually inverted colour.

So that's a, one of that top one is a gear, like a toothed gear.

And the one at the bottom is another gear.

And it's like, they're meshing together.

And they said, we've got no idea what we're talking about.

Enjoy.

I think they removed a little rim from the edge

because they said they removed that because it was keeping Honda contained.

And we know no boundaries.

I think that's quite good.

Okay. Here's a direct quote.

This design expression, like two outstretched hands,

represents Honda's commitment to augment the, to augment.

That's the one I can't read.

Honda's commitment to augment the possibilities of mobility

and sincerely serve the needs of the users of Honda EVs, said the brand.

You know what?

That's even worse than we came up with.

Like ours was better.

Yeah, that was like.

I read outreaching hands and I was like, I don't see hands.

I just see a bridge.

A bridge is good.

Me when I can't find my German friends, but I like the landscape.

But I am in San Francisco.

Okay. So yeah, whack new Honda logo.

And we are actually an amazing marketing team.

Yeah.

So we're a hire a thumbs, I think.

Let's go.

What's that?

I got one for it.

Okay.

Looks more modern.

That's the Ben Audi lights type B again.

But it is.

But is it not that it's, we want to change it

because we will make our cars more modern.

So we've got a modern logo.

So why did you change it?

Well, it's new, isn't it?

Well, it's simple.

It's simplified.

Better, isn't it?

New.

Why?

I mean, it looks better.

Well, that's what we've got to say.

You haven't got to justify it.

Just don't try to justify it, man.

Just like saying, I've had a haircut.

You go, why did you have a haircut?

Wait, what?

You think you think you look better?

Like, why?

Why?

Oh, I thought you know, I've got to go for the Mohawk

because it sort of connects the back of my head to my spine.

It represents the traveling from one part of my life to the other,

as you can see by the line.

Just as you'd be told, like therapy or something,

it doesn't need to make sense to anyone but you.

All right?

Okay.

It's just what you want to do.

The people that do that are the same people that get tattoos

and explain them.

They go, no, I got a clock because actually,

the clock was about my nan and how she loved the time.

And also about my favourite magazine, Radio Times.

That's what that was about.

Tell them, Will has no tattoo.

No, you do.

I do.

On your...

One day, you'll show it at a cream meat.

I think they're on my arms, to be fair.

Well, I'll wait for you to flesh it.

These are the ones that you can show.

Flash your tramps down.

Wait till we get our Patreon going, guys.

Big news.

This is actually massive news.

This is micro car related news.

Don't know.

It's there.

It's not behind you.

It's not funny.

It is.

It's a serious motor.

Sorry, yeah, yeah.

There's a world record.

There is a world record Ninky Donk.

And we need to beat it.

I think, yeah.

And I think we can.

I really think we can.

I need to.

I know like timing's not really allowed on the ring, is it?

But I think we need to shut it down.

Well, yeah.

No, technically, we need to rent out the entire Nurburgring

to do, to set a time-lapse.

You know who he's talking to?

Well, that's Pete Strander from the TRS.

I'm the owner of the Nurburgring.

He also loves that joke, doesn't he?

He really does.

Shut up.

He does it.

He really agitates himself.

He really annoys.

When we were TRS, I said,

Hello, Pete Strander, owner of the Nurburgring.

And I got a couple of...

I was about to say Slas, no, not Slas.

No, no, they were...

It was profanity.

Oh, profanity.

He's good with the jokes, but I don't think he loves that one.

Because it's completely uncalled for and completely random.

So I can understand why you...

Also about a dream.

So what is this news about this ninky-nop?

French manufacturer, Ligel,

which is the same manufacturer as our ninky-nop.

As Mike Crockett used their eight horsepower,

JS 50 microcards set the official record

for the slowest Nurburgring nap ever.

And it was how long?

It was 28 minutes, 25 seconds, 0.8 seconds.

It's a 9.59!

I think we could crack half an hour.

I want to know.

I want to know what constitutes the slowest.

Do they imply that you have to be going up a 10-10,

or can I just drive around at 10 miles an hour?

Do you want to know something?

10 miles an hour, you think you do quite well.

Do you want to know something that would clear our record

when it comes to our ninky-nop and our little mistake?

It's diesel powered.

This one?

Diesel.

See, they knew it.

That's why they watched our video when we should change it.

But hold on.

Would beating the record mean that we go slower or quicker?

Because I like either.

No, I want to go slower.

No, that'd be tough.

Because if you go quicker than it, we're second bottom.

You know how on the Sabine Schmidt's transit video,

they had a Viper giving them clean air in front?

We need something giving it dirty air to slow it down.

Yeah, we need someone behind us.

Someone with a fan blowing it.

Blowing it slower.

Pushing it back.

Yeah, exactly.

It's just on the wettest day as we've slicked all of the corners.

You are going off.

Previously, a slow car was set in 1960 by a Trabant.

So, 28 minutes.

So, it's a low power.

Now, here's why I think we possibly won't be slower,

because we've tested the top speed.

We got to 69 miles an hour?

67?

67 miles an hour.

Basically, the speed limit.

Yeah, almost the speed limit.

What did they get to in those?

So, the top speed of the JS50 is 28.

Oh, that's rough.

I actually don't know how much power the Ninky Nock makes.

I think we'll have to test that.

Now, we could put a limiter on it.

Yeah.

We could put the opposite of McLaren F1.

It was too fast, so we just had to bring it down.

So, I think Misha, someone fast, get them in the Ninky Nock.

Now, what if we, the day that we do finish,

we do do the bike engine swap in the microcar,

which we do want to do.

It would be really funny to take that to the other group.

Whoever's in it is dead.

We would knowingly be killing Misha.

He's got a wife and kids, but we would be killing him.

Well, Ligiere, if you're listening, if that's how you say it,

we're up for anything.

We're willing to bring the heritage fleet Ninky Nock out.

Got a parade lap.

It will be going for two days.

This parade lap.

24 hours of Ninky Nock would be fantastic.

Why look at that?

You can tell it's like a modern version of it.

The roof line.

You see how it's almost, what's it called?

I like the rear looking like a small evoke.

Yeah, the rear, that's what I was about to say that.

What is an evoke?

When it does that, the class sits sloping forward.

Oh, rake.

Rake.

Yeah, it's got a sort of rake to it.

And you see how the rear lights are really high up the back.

Yeah.

A bit like our Ninky Nock.

It's got that sort of like, do you know what it has?

It has crossfire vibes, where it sort of looks like it's squatting down

like the classic dog phrase.

To me, it's evoke vibes.

Like we could have just taken design limits.

Also, yeah, if you have a press car, not sorry, a car that will no longer be used

and needs to be crushed, we could make something happen.

We could make a press car.

We could do a little comparison.

Press car.

Right, Ben, that's your new daily.

28 miles an hour down the possibly better than my house.

Has it got on here?

It's diesel.

How would you know?

Eight holes.

Lovely.

Sad news.

Well, it's not sad.

It is sad news.

So there is, it was kind of already known that BMW, the next generation M3,

there would be an electric version and all electric version of it.

It's this Neuer-class thing.

But they've been talking, they've announced it's going to have a real drive mode.

Oh, no way.

Oh, man, exciting.

I'm sorry, I'm actually yawning.

That was unrelated.

But I'll be honest, until I read into it, I didn't know that it was confirmed.

Basically, there was going to be an all electric M3.

Now, is that a, there will be an all electric M3 offered,

but there will also be an engine one?

That I don't know yet.

Okay.

Hold on.

If that's the case, if it's an option, fine.

If you'd like to choose it, you may choose it.

But if it's saying the M3 is the one that is all electric, L.

Yeah, no, that's more like L3, am I right?

You can't do that.

Unless they're going to go, oh, here's an M4.

But now I want my four doors.

Give me the four doors.

Four doors must be.

So apparently it's going to have four motors.

So like most cars have like a, like a twin motor thing,

like a dual motor that goes front and rear.

But this will be four motors.

So it can do each sort of like individual wheel,

which means it can do a full sort of real drive type thing.

But I mean, I just, I just don't care.

Yeah.

I'm so bored of hearing about it.

Yeah.

It's like, it's like, guys, we're making a car.

Also make the car then.

Just stop telling me you're going to make it and just make it.

What makes it worse?

Sort of rubbing little bits of salt in the wound is emulated gear shifts and like an M,

you know, because it was a hand simmer, doing so an M style soundscape to make it feel like a,

like a petrol car.

But it's like, if you're going to make the electric,

just make the electric one, the electric one.

My biggest issue with it is that when you do this whole thing where it's like,

yes, we've made the soundscape.

So it sounds like a petrol and we've put, we've put a simulated gear shift.

Okay.

So you know that it's boring without it.

So you're putting elements of petrol car.

It's not banned.

Yeah.

You can put a petrol engine in.

Why are you doing this?

I have just read.

So the plan is, is there will be a petrol powered one alongside it.

So that's fine.

They're saying 2027.

Okay.

So we're not that far.

We're not far.

But I just don't like the idea of there even being one.

An electric.

And that's bad and dinosaur and old school and whatever.

But I don't like the idea.

Why does it have to be an M3?

I get it.

Probably sell.

Also call it an E3.

Yeah.

Make an M3.

Yeah.

Make it make its own things.

Stop making things go.

An M E.

A me.

Yeah.

So electric M3.

No.

Thanks.

But Ben, we just confirmed you, Ben, God's hell.

Ben was gone just for a moment there.

But there will be a petrol one alongside it.

Okay.

Well, I mean, that's fine.

Yeah.

Because no one's going to buy that.

I think they will though.

They won't.

I think they will.

But not enough for them to go.

I will get rid of the petrol one.

Do you want?

I said the same thing about the G80.

I said no one's going to buy this fish mouth thing.

That's fair being everywhere.

Enduring qualities to it.

But the thing about that is that I think nine people will buy it

and they will all go, it's amazing.

No, I mean, is that a prediction?

I think maybe more than that.

But like, there'll be not very many that buy it,

but the ones that do will go, it's so good.

And then everyone will go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The problem, I think the problem will be the petrol version.

It has something to compare to.

Immediately.

It would almost be worth BMW.

I don't want them to do this.

Committing going, M3 is now electric.

Because then you compare it to the old one,

but it'll be people like us going,

I'd have an E faulty tech.

But it's a bit like comparing.

I actually have a 330 day.

It's a bit like comparing.

This is just off the top of my head.

Like apples to oranges.

That's correct.

You wouldn't.

You shouldn't do that.

And if you're a fan of oranges

and you like sort of what an orange feels,

then would you buy a synthetic orange?

But what I mean is that people,

okay, imagine they may in the lab, an orange.

Right, okay, yeah.

And they go on.

It's more nutritious.

Okay.

Sure.

And maybe it's better for you.

Yeah.

It's a more perfect looking thing.

It works.

Smooth.

It's overall a better product.

It's faster.

Imagine it's a car.

If you throw this orange, it will go quicker than you've ever seen an orange.

But then the orange enthusiasts come in and they go,

okay, but you're missing.

You're missing the point.

It doesn't smell like an orange.

Or taste.

The synthetic one doesn't taste.

It has an emulated orange taste.

It tastes like it.

The smell is gone.

It tastes like when you taste a sweet.

Yeah.

It's orange.

Yeah.

Or it's like, um, like a.

Yeah, or like a.

Hard boiled sweets.

Like a hotel breakfast buffet orange juice,

where it's sort of watered down.

You can sort of horrible.

It's orange juice.

Sure.

And do you know what is that orange juice?

It's faster.

It's more efficient.

Yep.

It's all of the above.

But you're missing the point.

Exactly.

You're missing the point.

The orange was there.

We were here for the orange.

It's a sweet little treat given to us by our Green Earth.

You know what?

Maybe it was the orange we made along the way.

The orange you grew up with.

Exactly.

It's the one.

What is this podcast?

Next up.

It's motorbike related.

Yeah.

But it's actually.

Interesting.

Can I go home?

And no.

No, you can't.

I'm interested.

I want to hear this.

I don't care.

Now this is like a concept thing from MV Augusta,

which is a really, really cool motorbike brand actually.

The reason I like MV Augusta is because it was in Test Drive.

And that's the only reason I know anything I know it.

My dad had a MV Augusta and it was somewhat looking like,

I think it is an F4.

But the F4, I don't know what F4 tambourine means.

I don't know what that means.

But I was like, well, that's amazing.

That's the car from the game.

That's amazing.

Someone made the game in real life.

That's amazing.

But they're quite good looking bikes.

From what I've seen.

But anyway, they've sort of announced this concept engine,

which is five cylinder.

So it's not like an inline five.

It's more sort of beef.

They've calling it a sort of square trapezoid.

The Italian name for that is, is, is, is, is, is, is quadrato.

Quadrato.

But I'm intrigued to hear what it sounds,

because it's going to ref to 16,000 RPM.

I can, I can get more interesting.

The reason I'm interested in it is because I want it in the beat.

Yeah.

Five cylinder in the beat.

Just go, it's going to be like a modular type thing.

So they'll better put it in different levels of bikes.

So they're saying from like 850 cc up to like 1100 or so.

The only thing I don't like about this, this, this photo,

and I'm not please no suing me, it looks AI.

It looks like an AI photo.

When you look closely at it, it's, it's all weirdly smooth.

It's probably a render.

Exactly. But it's in, it's, it's, it feels more like AI.

It's, it's AI to me.

I don't know if this might just be me.

You see, I don't know what that is.

The holes on top of it.

The, the walls.

You see the metal, that's exactly what I was thinking.

It feels like if it went, hey, here's a more polished version of that.

And it's sort of like, you look at it and they, they're a little bit off.

AI render or not.

I don't care if that's a real thing.

I'm excited.

Do you want to know how much power it should make in its most extreme?

I did see, it's quite crazy.

How much?

240 horsepower.

That's as much.

It'd be a 1.1 at that stage.

As much as your S2000.

It did make before.

Because imagine, diddy little cylinders.

1.1 and it's got five of those, those bad boys to go.

Sorry to do it.

But imagine that noise.

I don't, because I don't know how the, the sort of the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

well, whatever it is, V type thing, how that's going to make that sound.

Well, it's going to be five cylinders.

That should in theory.

Think of VR five still.

Exactly.

VR five still has a five pot noise.

So five, five's the magic number.

But that's 240 horsepower.

Even what's any 200 horsepower would be.

Enfield Guster.

Start, start wagging at him.

In engines, in cars.

In cars.

Silly buggers.

Also 16,000.

Did I say that?

You did.

Also 16,000.

Also, I've heard 240 horsepower.

And what is it?

Five cylinders.

What are they revved to?

16.

Foul.

Okay.

Then listen up.

16 pounds.

And sorry.

No, no, we've already talked about this.

How much does it rev to?

We've talked about this, mate.

Just over 16,000.

Five.

Revving to?

16.

Wow.

I'm making it out.

What have we got next?

We've got next Ben.

Well, perfectly fitting.

A car crash from you, Ben.

I might have missed my round of the week.

Okay.

Yesterday, I was going home in my daily.

It had oil in it.

Well, I think.

For a change.

Possibly not at that point.

No, it did.

Oh, it did at that point.

Yes, sorry.

I think it had oil.

We hope.

Sure.

Um, I joined from where we are now

on to the dual carriageway.

Cool.

From directly from here.

Yeah.

Yeah, I was there.

I don't know.

It was a muddy drive.

And as I joined on there,

there was a lot of traffic,

standstill traffic.

Of course.

And as I moved along, creeping along,

left foot, left leg burning on the clutch.

Yeah.

I was like, oh, of course.

Something bad has happened here.

That must be all.

I saw lights.

I guess what the crash was.

What was it?

The other side of the road.

Okay.

And the reason that the dual carriageway

was standstill traffic,

because everyone was stopping to look at this.

What I think was a fatal crash.

Oh.

Because it was looked very bad.

And there were people on our side of the road

who were slowing down a dual carriageway.

Yeah.

There wasn't a box at all to look at this.

To standstill.

That's quite a lot.

They weren't stuck.

Because sometimes they stop the other side

if someone's been like sort of...

That might be the case.

It wasn't standstill very long.

I probably got through it in a few minutes.

But the fact that is because everyone...

Have you ever seen that Japanese experiment they did?

Yes.

Where they just show how traffic can slow for no reason.

Yeah.

And it goes to Chris chapter.

It was that.

And I was shocked.

I drove past.

Rubber-necking.

But I was like, that is crazy.

Also, what's wrong with you?

You want to look like a possible fatal accident

and a guy let on the road.

You know what I mean?

I've said it before.

I believe the people who do this

are the most soulless, weak humans on earth.

Because how empty is your life

that you must slow everyone else's day down

for you to get a quick look at something.

And also, move on with your day.

Get a hobby.

Because what are you doing?

What's so interesting to look at the other side of the road?

But the thing is, you clown, you chopper.

You go.

You can do nothing in that scenario.

Because you're not part of it.

You can't help with the caramedics, right?

All you can do is carry on going and just not...

No one wants an audience in that situation.

And I don't know.

It could have been perfectly fine.

It was a little bump.

But what I could see at the speed limit as I went past it,

not stopping on the stairs.

And I bent on a look.

But I didn't slow down.

And I went past it.

I had a half a second glance over my shoulder.

Not over my shoulder.

That was driving.

That would be crazy.

Well, it's because you were spinning across the road.

I've never done that.

Redacted.

As I drove past it, I looked to my right,

but at a normal speed.

And it...

Because it looked...

I wonder...

I thought there was something on the other side of the road

that happened.

Like, someone had gone through the barrier onto our side.

Nothing.

Yeah.

So what...

You also...

You never want to tell you not to stare.

It's rude.

And you can't do anything to hell.

I'm sure.

You've got nothing else to look at.

But just carry on with your day.

If you haven't do it, you're not helping.

You're just...

And stop staring at people in horrible situations.

It is what...

I think it is the thing that annoys me the most,

is rubbernecking.

Just go, man.

You're on a road.

If you're on the road, if you're in a car,

if you're inside a motor vehicle,

it means you need to go from one place to another.

You're not out there for fun.

You're not just doing laps of the M25,

looking for things to look at.

Go to the thing you need to go to.

Stop.

You're just...

Anyway.

I still maintain...

I mean, I don't know the result of that crash.

No, it was why.

If it was fatal, rip.

But how are you crashing on a motorway, man?

I don't know.

When I see crashes on a motorway, I'm like,

how...

This is a straight line.

It has to be...

I know it's the fastest you can go, basically.

But there are some country roads that are 60, 70...

Well, I'm not saying...

60 miles an hour on some country roads,

and people just manage.

You might get a clip-wing mirror,

but on the motorway, people start to go,

well, I'll barrel roll, won't I?

I think I'll barrel roll into the other side of the motorway, actually.

I want to be somewhere, but I don't...

I'll just smash into something.

It's nine times out of ten.

It's just people inept at driving.

People going, I'm going to pull over here.

Oh, there was a person I didn't see.

Cool. We're both now spinning the all-road.

I don't know.

Quick falls from my bed.

I don't know what happened.

I couldn't see...

Also, I didn't really want to,

because I don't want to see a fatal crash.

But in what scenario do you crash?

What I'm saying is, I don't know.

Where the man is will come back to play me.

I don't crash on the way home.

I think as a morally good person,

I want to test it.

It's kind of rude.

To look at that,

I think you should show them some respect

and just drive past it.

And not only the fact that it's in communities

every other day on the other road,

who have nothing to do with it,

but just stop staring at that.

Do you know what I mean?

If someone got killed,

you wouldn't just stand there and stare at them.

It's so weird. Just go.

Yeah. It's a weird...

What is the word?

Like morbid curiosity thing.

Where it's like, oh, what can happen?

Oh, I can tell my mate when I get home about this.

Do you see that crash?

Do you have a town around?

Doesn't matter.

Move on with your life.

But I don't want to see that.

Yeah.

So I'm just going to hospitals

and just looking in rooms.

What's that mean?

Bloody hell, what happened there?

That's crazy. What happened to you?

Oh, man.

Oh, bloody hell.

Heart surgery.

I'm just going to have a look at this guy.

What's happened to you?

That's tough.

Go away.

Hello. Would you...

Let's say someone falls over in the street.

I'm looking at that.

If there's some...

If there's people with them helping, I'm walking past.

Although I would carry on at the same pace.

I wouldn't...

Unless it was like an old woman.

We would speed up.

They're on to me.

If it was an old woman, I'd slow down.

What?

As in like...

Is it to look?

No, as in Jesus.

No, as in like, I might have to help.

No, exactly.

Yeah, if you...

But none of the people in the road are going,

oh, I better get off at the next exit.

Exit, whiz back around 10 miles and see if I can help.

I like Ben's story from last week now.

He came off on a crash and we go up.

So now I've just looked straight ahead.

It's like, not my business.

I should not be looking.

Man, I was like, no, help.

If you are...

If you are an off-duty paramedic...

That's more good.

No, thanks.

If you're an off-duty paramedic and you think,

I can actually help here.

That's the only paramedic.

No, no, I think...

Or like someone that actually can help them,

or there's no one's got there yet and you need to help them get out of the car.

Exactly.

Then fine.

But you're on the other side of the road.

Exactly.

Nothing to do with you.

Jeremy, if there's a crash in Swindon right now,

I'm not going to go, oh, better get a crash, have a look at that.

Mate, mate, they need me.

Yeah, I need to get over that.

Sure, I'll just drive past them a little.

Look, no, just down.

Anyway, that was my rant.

So I thought you'd appreciate that particularly.

I was quite excited by that because that was the day of the...

Well, you thought I crashed my car?

Yeah.

I mean, just bro...

No.

I'm also down the car, but I messaged the cream chat.

No, no, I thought you'd come upon another crash

and you were helping another man.

That's what I was saying.

Ben is now a vigilante.

Yeah, he always helps car crashes.

Listen, you do one nice thing and you get roast on podcasts, right?

You're a rubber-necker.

I'm not.

That's just true.

You're not a rubber-necker.

Ben's the night crawler.

Ben's just going around looking for things to film.

He's a night crawler.

Have you never watched Night Crawler?

Oh, Night Crawler, yes.

Yeah, that's what you are.

You're waiting.

You're listening to police radios going,

crash down the road, right?

I'll be there.

I'm going to film that bit of film, Jason.

Very good film.

Good film.

I'll challenge RSRT-8, I think of that one.

Is it?

Also Jake Gyllenhaal.

That's the one?

He's not a car, he's just mad.

No, he's not.

We'll give you a teacher look then.

Yeah.

Shut up.

Stop talking now.

We're doing next bit.

Next up, we have from you, Ben.

I hope you've got this one.

Sure.

You've got information for this one.

Corvette ZR1X drag time.

Yes, we've seen this.

I have.

This is mental.

So this is the ZR1X, which is the ZR1,

I believe it's electric power as well.

It's a mixture of both.

They've now tested it.

They've done their official drag time,

and I have confirmed from what I've read.

Oh, Ben's confirmed first.

So it's probably not true.

But I've confirmed from all my sources.

Yeah.

I know you've seen that.

That it is...

Well, Will has the guess.

Road tires.

9.2.

On road tires.

9.4.

Okay.

And 0.60.

No, fair way.

No, no, no, no, no.

No, seriously.

And 0.60 in?

1.8.

Okay.

1.68.

What the s***?

Yeah, a bit of a quarter mile.

There's no way that.

Road tires.

On road.

Come on, come on.

8.67.

That is the...

8.6.

I think it's that.

I'm going to go check.

I need to...

I think it's 8.68 or something.

Oh, yeah.

No, but I have a reference.

Like, there are fully built drag cars on slicks

that are built to go in a straight line

that aren't doing that.

Not 60 in 1.68 seconds on the drag strip.

8.67 seconds at 159 miles an hour.

That is obscene.

You can't do...

That's not legal, surely not.

It was equipped with...

Oh, I've got it here.

So, this car was on a prepped surface.

There's no one that's completely

the quarter mile, 8.6 seconds on pump gas

using standard equipment tires

and production 50-state legal engine calibration.

I mean, that could be like a semi-slick,

I don't know.

Yeah, I think it's on a very...

It's on a very...

No, no, I think it's on like a budget.

They probably got a part one from the local set of flavors, is it?

Yeah, great tire.

The car was equipped with the standard air configuration.

Standard Michelin PS4S tires.

I mean, again, I can't remember where I saw it recently,

but there's a few like of the huge power,

like 1,400 horsepower and 140 is that four-wheel drive again.

Slicks, lightweight, and they're just getting into the 8s,

like high-8s.

You mean, well, America?

I think I'll just take that down a local drag strip.

Yeah, this is...

I want to...

Now, that's Chevy you've tested that.

No, I think this was...

I don't...

No, I don't believe it.

Because when we go to America, we have to...

The numbers don't make sense.

The numbers make sense.

Can you get the clip up?

Yes.

Great, let's not get the audio listeners set up.

8.6 seconds.

That's disgusting.

You can't go that.

What for a factory car?

That's why I want to put rubber neckers in.

Just let it slow down.

Also, I'll say something.

Go down 8 seconds.

All you electric guys with your...

Oh, I can go to 6 in 1.9 seconds.

Yeah, but then...

Shadda.

There's electric in it.

Yeah, but it's hybrid.

Yeah.

He's got a VA motor in there.

He's like doing most of the work.

It's supposed to be called, you know,

in the boys when you get injected with a V.

That's that.

Yeah.

You're a superhero.

Just made this absolute monster of a thing.

Here we go.

This is a YouTube video from...

A fair use YouTube video.

It is generally...

So, it is generally...

But there is...

I think people have been doing...

Like, outside testing and confirming it.

But this is propaganda.

Yes, sure, fine.

Why not?

If you look at the screen, you'll see that is an absolutely ridiculous launch.

He heads on down the strip.

What is it called?

We'll just give it on.

Quarter mile, 8.67 at 159.

Crazy.

Absolutely crazy.

Eight points.

Why do they have to cut the angle the second launch?

Yeah.

Now, I think...

I think, actually, they should show a version that has no cuts.

I think that's because that's what they did with the Hennessy thing, right?

The Hennessy, yeah.

Yeah, they were like, no, no, hold on.

Show us that.

It's not because I believe they're lying.

It's because I just think it's annoying to watch.

And they showed that, like,

when we did the drag racing series...

Shout out to Cletus McFarland.

He does...

You see a full run from the outside.

You see the full run from the inside.

You see the full run from a flyby.

It's good.

It feels correct.

Cletus McFarland, you did tell me that when we did the drag racing series.

Exactly.

But it builds tension when you do it like that.

Yes.

Because also, we're not looking at you guys launching.

It doesn't look that quick.

It looks quick if you cut it quickly.

Whereas that, I want to see you start to finish.

But also, we're possibly saying that as a factory car,

that's got more in it.

Yo, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

There's got a racket on a set of slicks.

Tube and a remap.

Tube and a remap, little...

But that's insane.

Can we see a Corvette that's running like a low eight?

Or a seven or something with very minimal things done to it.

Then you can just drive off and go home.

Yeah, that should be crazy.

Speaking of America, I've put something in there.

Because, have you seen this?

This is Mustang SC.

There is a Mustang Dark Horse SC.

So it is essentially a mini version of the GTD,

which I find really funny because in America,

GTD is like, whoa, it's pretty cool.

Now that's a Golf Diesel, mate.

Yeah, in the UK.

That's not that impressive.

GTD is kind of low pecking order.

At least 70 MPG.

So the Dark Horse that we had, a five litre VA in America makes 500 horsepower.

Then the GTD has a 5.2 supercharged that I think it makes 815.

Something like that.

That's a lot.

They are now making a Dark Horse SC,

which has the same engine as the GTD,

without all of the mental error kit stuff.

And I really like how it looks.

It has like an...

And it has...

I can't place my finger on it.

It's almost some sort of like BMW front bumper.

Also, there's a transformer.

Can we?

It does, yeah.

What's that?

The fitment is looking rambunctious.

Now, manufacturers often get this...

Well, they're always getting it wrong for whatever reasons.

Regulations, bloody, bloody, bloody.

But the app's that is a stupendous fitment for a manufacturer.

And I think from memory as well,

when I read it up, I'll quickly pull that up now,

that there is like a normal version and a track pack version.

That's the track pack version.

So you've got...

You can do angry track stuff,

or you can have just a kind of road car.

That with no wing would be nice.

It would be really nice.

So let me get you up from...

Also, US side markers.

I like...

Not when you map them in in this country,

but I quite like them.

Okay, yeah.

The engine is the same found in the GTD.

We're talking 804 horsepower here.

What's going on?

We're getting...

I feel like we're getting towards end game,

where it's just manufacturers going,

I don't care anymore.

It's a thousand.

Have it.

This is the Golf GTD.

It has 900 horsepower and not to say...

Nine.

I feel like nature is healing.

Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Please, I redact my statement.

They have not announced the number for that.

The GTD's number is 804.

So they're thinking it's going to be around 700, 750.

Oh, God, what's the point?

Oh, I don't care about this.

I would like to speak about America as well.

Please speak about that.

Go on.

We can...

We're going.

We've never been to Monterey Carley.

We can do this time.

We're going to hear you here.

Speak about it again.

And this time we're going bigger and better.

And no more electric cars.

And no more electric car.

We're not going to be doing a podcast in the fading light

within a car park of a charging station.

We might.

And we're going to find Mr. Bugger.

We're going to find him.

Because he didn't respond to my message.

Mr. Bugger, I want a photo of me in front of Mr. Bugger.

Can we get all of us, but like...

No, the car.

The car.

So, yeah.

Oh, like a last night out for us.

Last night out for the...

Yeah, back.

And we look already miserable.

We go, sick night out, my boys.

Mate, look.

Unreal.

I had the best time.

Look at my face.

Take me back to Mr. Bugger.

You didn't respond.

So, now we have to find him.

We're taking it personally.

And then we camp out his car until he arrives.

Now, do you remember we saw it?

I know exactly where it is.

Okay.

I know the road, I don't know the street at all,

but so we're going to get him.

But this time the podcast will come to you from,

I think we should aim for something.

What does that mean?

I want to get some deck chairs.

I want to do a podcast on 17 mile drive.

Okay, we can do that.

You're going to go way more spot style.

Oh, hell yeah.

Shut our way there.

Yeah.

We're not copying anything, but we are going to do that.

A lot of seals though.

Inspired by Waymo.

Lots of seals that make noise though.

It might be an issue.

No, we'll just not be near them.

Ben's ST1000 engine right now.

Should we do it on the golf course next to it?

Yeah, sure.

Why not?

Okay.

Right.

Well, so you will keep Monterey talk to a minimum

until we're there.

We know you tire.

But it's confirmed.

So there you go.

So you also, if any of you lot are going,

or you know anyone,

if you know anything about Monterey or you're going,

we'd like to go bigger and harder and better.

We're going to the quail.

And if we don't get a ticket, we're breaking into the quail.

If you work at the quail.

Or you work from a manufacturer or a brand or a catering company

that is at the quail.

We'll happily work on our line cook.

If you've got a box big enough to get us all in.

We're happy to smuggle.

Three of us will go in, only one of us will come out.

Do you know what these guys said to me?

They said, Ben, what if we only get two tickets?

Like, what would you do?

And I was like, well, I'm not going, obviously.

No, we make sure you got it.

We made sure.

Yeah.

We dress you up in a like a bright shirt and say,

this is called Murray's son.

All of life is confidence.

You just go in.

Exactly.

You say, I'm Christine Monconic.

You look up.

Would you?

You're going to have to make some changes.

Yeah.

If we, if we shaved you like smooth.

I'm not shaving my head for the crit foot.

You wouldn't go trying to get into the quail like that.

Do you know what?

That's quite a good bet though.

Yeah.

Oh, no, I'm not shaving my head.

Okay.

Um, I have a forum question.

Go on.

I came up the other day and I just thought,

I thought it might be interesting.

Forum question from Ivan Foresty or Foresty.

How do you define if a car is reliable enough to be a daily driver?

Hmm.

Where do you research usually?

And what are the biggest red and green flags?

Love the podcast and a proud creamer from Italy.

Okay.

Can I speak?

Yes, please after you.

Well, I'm actually in the market for a reliable daily driver.

That's interesting.

I've been told that basically every time I say it needs to be reliable,

I get laughed at.

Because apparently every car is reliable.

No, not every car is reliable.

It's more that you believe that every car is unreliable.

No.

Because you've read one forum post.

That's not true.

You say to me, you go.

It's like, what is it? N47?

Yeah.

In the 320 day famously the timing chains go.

Now just let me finish.

Let me finish.

And that's fine.

That happens on cars.

My beef with it is that the famous thing is that it's at the back of the engine

against the firewall.

So you have to take the engine out to get to it.

And I don't want to do that.

Hence the reason I don't want that car.

Now it might not go.

I know that some of them do 200,000 miles, 300,000 miles and they don't go.

But I don't want to deal with that.

If that's a possibility, I don't want to speak and make fun of me.

You said, I know some of them can do that.

No, most of them do it.

The majority of cars are fine and work.

I know the reason that they're out there on the road.

Of course.

It's a very small minority and you can usually avoid the car by doing the research.

It is in a specific car that's going to be bad by doing the research.

I know that, but my thing about it is that if that was, if it went, oh yeah,

time chains are known on those, but it's at the front of the engine and you can do them.

And it's, you know, it's 800 quiloquil like a normal time chain is to change rather than

it's an engine out job.

I'd probably consider it.

But I don't want to deal with that because technically not an engine out job, it's a

gearbox out job.

Is it?

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, anyway, what I know is that it's a headache.

And what I'm saying is that I'm agree with you.

I totally that most cars probably fine if you look after them.

What I'm saying is that if there is a possibility of a known issue and that that is a massive

pain to do, I don't want that.

But you will find that with every car.

You are going to find the problem is, is no one goes on the internet or no one's going

to come up to you and say, my car ran perfectly today.

And there's plenty of people who own these cars who don't, but there are plenty of people

and it is probably the majority of them.

Remember, we are in the, we're on the internet going, what's wrong with my car?

My car made this noise.

What's that?

But 90% of the people are owning those kinds of cars daily drivers.

They just try to these golf diesels, whatever.

They just drive them and it works.

It goes to the mechanic and they might fix it every now and then.

Here's my question.

How many times have you heard of a Clio 1820172 jumping timing and like messing up his engine?

Yeah.

Not very often.

I can think of what is one sitting right behind us.

So it is just as likely to not happen to you as it is to happen to you.

Yeah.

But what I mean is that then like with, if my only thing is that if it's a known issue

and it's a very expensive issue to fix, I usually just want to avoid it.

If it is a known issue and to be fair, for example, 320 is a known issue.

I'm not saying it's going to go.

It's probably if you, the class thing is if people go,

I've done an oil change every seven minutes and it's fine.

It's like, okay, great.

But while I'm going to buy it.

You don't have that person, do you?

No, I don't.

It's worth doing the research sometimes.

So you can go, okay, this car has a 50,000 mile oil service gap.

I should probably avoid this one.

But I reckon there are probably more people who aren't.

So the EcoBoost wet belt thing, there is genuinely some form of issue there.

So there is stuff to avoid.

If you're buying a car that's got 150,000 miles or 100,000 miles,

and it's never had that job done, and it hasn't had regular oil changes,

you know to avoid it.

So forums and stuff, it's useful, but don't always let it completely put you off

because you're going to find that everywhere.

Even things like Toyotas, Hondas, you do your research enough.

You'll find an engine.

You'll find something that goes, oh, well, the injectors die on this.

This dies on this or this dies on this.

There are always going to be problems because cars need maintenance.

Unfortunately.

Another thing that I like to do, which is much less

analytical or proper researchy, look at what cars you see on the road.

That's true.

How many E-9320Ds do you see driving around?

Quite a lot, but millions.

Because I've been looking at Toyota TDIs, VW, because it's just engine.

Just what most of them have.

If you look online, it will go injectors, and there's something else which I've now forgotten.

Hold on.

She's got to make up her lie.

I know this guy actually wants to see.

Oh, hold on.

Let me think of it.

The classic thing you see with that, from what the research I've done,

is this charge coolers that leak coolant and injectors.

But then also, if I drive home now, I will see 14,000 Toyota TDIs.

They're fine, which is true.

And also, the other thing, you're probably better off buying an unreliable model that's

been well looked after than a very reliable Honda, for example, that hasn't been looked after.

My, the story I always like to use with this is that when I was much younger,

my dad bought a six or seven-year-old V10 Tuareg.

Great.

Perfect.

And it had like 30,000 miles on it.

And I think he said it was the most he'd ever spent on a car,

because it was he didn't usually buy new stuff.

We moved to South Africa.

We took it with us and we put 200,000 miles.

It was at 210K after five years.

We'd put like 30K a year on it, 40K a year on it.

It had one CV joint, one CV boot in five years and 200,000 miles.

If you go on the internet, you'll see people going,

like, brand new, those things are breaking down.

Got to take an engine out, they're blah, they're terrible.

It's not, it's completely dependent.

There probably are people who have one that have 4,000 miles on it and the engine blew up

and you need to take the turbos out and swap them.

But it is horses, of course.

You know what?

It's comparing apples to oranges in a way.

What I will say though on that is that that goes back to what I was saying earlier about

actual, when it does go wrong, doing it.

Because are they taking the Taylor and Alex and that lot,

taking the V10 out of the Tuareg in the unit?

And yesterday, you guys were asked once about it.

And he was saying, to be fair, they're pretty, pretty all right.

When they do go wrong, that it is an issue.

And that for me is the big thing is it's like,

I don't want it to be famously hard to do stuff on if it goes wrong.

I just like to eliminate that risk factor, because I'm not that sort of person.

Mason That's true.

But you have all people have cars, you have a workshop in which to do things,

and people to help you.

But you know that I don't like it when things don't work.

Mason I think for a lot of people, and perhaps maybe even this might be the same for you, Ben,

is a lot of it is people expecting too much for what their budget is.

If you've got £8 to spend, or let's say, I don't know,

you've got £1,500 to spend, and you want to buy something,

and you're going to go out and buy a BMW.

Mason Yeah, you're done.

Mason You are already, you're already,

you're going to have to accept that you are in treacherous waters.

Obviously, it depends maybe what BMW you're buying.

You might be buying a very simple four cylinder,

something whatever it is.

But you will have to accept that that car is possibly not as well maintained

as if you go and buy one at the higher end of the market.

Mason Yeah.

So in not all the time, but many of the times,

you will get what you pay for in terms of finding a good,

a well looked after car.

Mason To be fair, also, I think, I think, like,

the mindset changed, to be fair.

Earlier on, Patrick, social media Patrick bought, what did he buy?

A 320, it's 320.

Mason Something, yeah.

Mason 320, like the one we, I just, I didn't want for £400.

Mason Yeah.

Mason He literally said, he was like,

yeah, it might go tomorrow, it's on 190,000 miles.

But at the same time, if it's 400 quid, it doesn't be 5,000 miles.

That's actually quite a good deal.

Mason That's a good mindset to have of it.

So yeah.

Mason Sounds like it's a weird, like, middle ground of the cheap car.

So you either go all the way to the bottom end of it.

Mason Yeah.

Mason Or you should just wait and pay for something that's actually good,

because sometimes the middle area is like, oh, there's lots of really crap ones in here,

which are the ones you have to be really careful with.

Mason And also, I think it's less, it's going to be more normal people,

if you're a creamer, you're probably willing to do this anyway, but be willing to go for the car

lower than what you want. If you have a £1,500 budget, do not go and look at the one series,

go and buy a Lupo. And you can get about a car down the line.

But if you spend £1,500 buying a car and then spend two grand over the next six months trying

to keep it going, versus just sucking it up and buying something cheap and easy for a grand

and never having to do anything to it, go buy yourself something cool in a few months' time

when you've got some more money together, because it's a false economy. You will spend more keeping

the shit thing going.

Mason I did that on my Swift Sport.

Mason Yeah.

Mason Are you telling me?

Mason I don't admit this.

Mason I haven't met this before, to be fair. I bought a Super Swift Sport when we were at

Carthal. Everyone said to me, go buy a decent one. I said, I'm going to buy a cheap one,

and I'm going to use... It'll be the same money overall, but I'll buy a cheap one,

and I'll do all the bits to it. And then it's how those bits are done,

because you could buy one for £4,000, and it might all need that doing anyway.

And I bought it, and I lost loads of money on it.

Mason Which is fine. If you're like us,

case in point, the car behind me, I could have waited and gone and bought a good

Clear 172 Exclusive, but there was something cool to me, the idea that this one didn't run.

It was potentially going to be broken for spares.

There's something nice in getting it going, and there's a story to it. Cool. I like that.

But if it's your daily driver, which this is supposed to be,

if it's your actual daily driver, don't do that. Go and spend the correct money on the correct car.

Mason Also, it gives cars a bad... It gives some cars a really bad

name. It's lots of words. You'll see this in lots of manufacturers,

like owner groups and whatever else, where they have a big following of people who are

buying super cheap ones. But you always have to remember what that car was worth new.

Mason Yeah. Even a three series, even if you're going buying a 330, whatever,

or even a 320, you have to remember that was a 30, 40, 50, 60 grand car at some point,

and it gets even worse when you're getting into Tuaregs and Range Rovers and Jaguars,

where you're getting up towards £100,000. It might cost £8.60 now, but the running costs,

things do get easier over time and cheaper. Like running a Range Rover is probably slightly cheaper

than it would have been back then. Certain people figure out different ways to fix them,

easier ways to fix them, parts get cheaper. But it is still a very expensive car, so you have to

take that into account. Mason Yeah. The design doesn't depreciate.

Mason Oh, I like that.

Mason Shout out M5 through 9 restorations threaten.

That's the perfect example. Going by the worst 850i, 750i, M70V12 that runs like a bag of shit.

Mason Oh, put the correct parts on it and it works.

Mason Yeah, no shit. That's how it works. If you put good parts on good cars,

sorry, if you put good parts on cars, they become good cars.

Mason Meanwhile, the way we just move the engine from the clear.

Mason Not great. I was tired.

Mason We've had an email from Richard Porter.

Now, we don't converse with Richard Porter through emails.

We talk about his email on the podcast and he responds to us on email.

Mason So, we still haven't responded to this one. Sorry, I have to find it.

Mason Can we extend an invite to him as well?

Mason Yes, we would like to have you back on the podcast. We'll send you a message soon.

Mason Again, we don't send emails, so this is how you find out.

Mason Richard, Paul, to send this. Send this in an email. Meanwhile, we were roasting him about

his writing. So, subject line, thanks.

Exclamation mark. Paul One quick note, he's now switched over to email because we may

follow his hand, right? Mason Yes.

Paul He's all went through chat. Mason He was sending letters by pigeon before.

Paul He said, hello, Cream Meisters.

Mason Lovely. Paul I realize I never said thank you for mentioning my book on the pod.

Mason And you'll never have to.

Paul Which was very rude of me. So, thank you, full stop.

Mason Nice.

Paul Although I must complain in the strongest possible terms about the riff around my letter

and in particular, the suggestion that I was giving myself a mid-let's pep talk,

which was so funny, I once again almost lost control of my car brackets this time on a mini

roundabout somewhere in Wiltshire. It's the Scottish man and the nose farts all over again,

you bastards. Keep up the good work. That one was for me, but I hope you do too.

Tarr Richard also, he said, PS, patio furniture. Did you have that on your names list? We do,

sort of. We have patio heater. I think that all comes into the same.

Not necessary of the same family because ones of the ohita, ones of the furniture.

Mason If there's a drop down for patio.

Tarr Yeah, bar. I'd say similar region.

Mason It's similar region, but it is a new, it is a fresh entry technically.

Tarr Patio heater would be fantastic friends with patio furniture.

Mason Yeah, because just the namesake that we like.

Tarr Patrick. Oh, I'm Patrick too.

Mason He's a really warm chap.

Tarr He's a warm tech guy.

Mason But yes, thank you very much, Richard. And obviously, he sent us out his book. I'll

be honest, I haven't read it yet. I don't read books.

Tarr No, okay. We can't read this.

Mason Never a book, right?

Tarr I don't know how to write. I don't know how to read.

It's a really poor relationship.

Mason You just get, oh, email from Richard Porter.

Tarr No idea what that says.

Mason But we'll listen to audiobooks now.

Tarr Yeah, no, I do do that.

Tarr No, I feel like a sort of Gen Z.

Mason What audiobooks have you read?

Tarr I think audiobooks.

Tarr To a crema.

Tarr I don't have any. I've only just started really.

But my first audiobook I did start to listen to was on that bombshell.

Mason I was about to say this sounds like a plot. We are Richard Porter's marketing agency

because that's, I listened to that over Christmas again. It's very good.

Tarr Although behind the scenes a topic.

Mason More marketing for Richard Porter.

Tarr We'll get a second voice.

Mason The boring car trivia books of which I have three, those are a nice easy read because you

don't need to, you don't need to. There's no ending to spoil.

Tarr It's a picture for the kids.

Mason This is a car.

Tarr What do you mean there's no ending?

Mason Well because it's not a story, is it?

Tarr It's sort of just a, sort of a, sort of...

Mason I wouldn't call the, a collection of...

Tarr I wouldn't call Petrolhead either, because it's just...

Mason No, no, but what I'm saying is on that bombshell,

you can't just go right, I'm going to go like page 400 of a page and I'll find a...

Mason Why would you, why would you do that?

Tarr What?

Mason We can't read it, doesn't it?

Mason Well you read the end of the book first.

Tarr No, you idiot. What I'm saying is it's not stories,

it's not like an autobiography or a biography or a, you know, I don't need to go right.

I have to read this from beginning to end where it's boring car trivia.

You open the book, you open a page and you go...

Mason Your retention is terrible.

Tarr Well it's he bends all about the retention.

Mason I can't read.

Tarr Tune in later on for the next section.

Mason I start, I bought the book physically and I started to read it and I start to skip

through bits and then I realise I don't understand what I'm reading anymore.

Tarr So I have to, I have to listen to it.

Mason That's how you know the podcast isn't scripted,

because we can't read.

Tarr We'll, we'll put off a book at bookstore,

goes to page 300 and goes, I've got no idea what's going on in this book.

Tarr Oh this is interesting.

Mason You know when you read at school?

Tarr No.

Mason They say we'll read this book.

I was reading like Lord of the Rings and stuff.

I just like to skip a page.

Tarr Why?

Mason I just skip it and go, why is it boring?

Tarr You might as well go get your mind checked.

Mason We'll skip as a page.

Tarr What I've got, I've got no idea what's going on now.

Mason This book is awful.

Tarr This book is awful.

Tarr It's got the stories all over it.

Mason No, no, no.

Tarr He's jumping from one bit to another.

Mason There would be bits where I go, why?

Tarr It is retention.

Tarr I'll read it and go, well, why?

Mason We'll see the original.

Tarr I need to get to the next story point.

Tarr I don't need to know what Gandalf said then.

I need to know why Gandalf said it.

Mason Who did you say?

Tarr Gandalf said calmly.

Mason Not correct.

Tarr But yeah, books, not for me, but I will listen to books.

Mason Okay. Ben is rushing us to finish.

Tarr I'm not rushing you.

Mason We have one last thing and it's from Ben.

Ben has a PCN update.

Update us on the PCN.

Tarr What more is there?

Mason Now, the weird thing is that I've been informed

there's been a sixth one issue and I've never received it.

So I might be going to prison.

Tarr But the five I have, I got, I don't know.

Tarr Because I won't then pay it.

Ben Impressive if you do go to prison for this.

Tarr Anyway, it has been all cancelled.

Ben All of the council.

Tarr I actually on email after slating them,

I don't know if they listed the podcast,

slating them for saying that they don't make you apply

individually to them.

I got a basic email saying, here's a list of your PCNs.

They're all gone.

Tarr Wow.

Ben I said, it doesn't matter.

I blow my engine up.

Tarr So I can't go in there's only if I want to.

Ben Riddle me this, captain.

Tarr Yeah.

Ben Why is it only for you?

Tarr Why can't you say, right, I've got an issue.

One man goes to them and says, I've got an S2000 and it means this.

And they go, oh, well, not we've made a mistake,

but obviously we let's update that car.

Tarr Because you can't change the type of approval

from Euro 3.

You can't change that.

So they don't look at it.

Ben But by them allowing you all 2001, S2000s,

I get the same.

Tarr No.

Ben Why?

Tarr Because that's too much sense.

Ben Okay, of course.

Tarr Yeah.

Ben I'm sorry, everyone must contact individually.

Tarr All right.

Ben You're saying that's the end of the podcast.

Tarr Ben Well, we can change batteries,

but it's got one percent not much.

Ben Look, there you go.

Ben doesn't want to do the podcast anymore.

He just wants to take the money and run.

Tarr Listen, my time is up here.

Ben You have to charge us for another hour.

Ben So thank you very much for listening to this episode

of The Car's Relieving a Robbie podcast.

We'll be back next week.

As always, goodbye.

See you by now.

Tarr Bye now.

Ben I'll have a daily cut to Ben's cam now.

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