C.R.E.A.M. #81 - Selling a Car To Jay Kay, Lowest Selling New Cars and S2000 For Sale?
C.R.E.A.M. (The TDC Podcast)
C.R.E.A.M. #81 - Selling a Car To Jay Kay, Lowest Selling New Cars and S2000 For Sale?
C.R.E.A.M. (The TDC Podcast) · May 7, 2026
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Car
Lamborghini Gallardo
The Lamborghini Gallardo is a loud, high-performance supercar from Lamborghini. Here, they’re talking about the exact Gallardo they owned and sold, and what happened to it after the sale.
Concept
MOT
In the UK, an MOT is a required safety/roadworthiness check for cars. Mentioning that it had an MOT means it was checked and cleared to be driven legally.
Topic
Sunday Scramble
Sunday Scramble appears to be a car event or meetup where cars are displayed or gathered. In the segment, it’s used to show how quickly the sold Gallardo was back in public view after the MOT.
Term
original plate
An “original plate” means the car kept its same license plate. That can matter to buyers because it keeps the car’s identity/history consistent.
Term
wheels refurbished
Wheel refurbishment is when damaged or worn wheels get repaired and refinished. They’re saying the car’s wheels were reconditioned so it still looked good.
Company
DK Engineering
DK Engineering is the company they used to help sell the car. The point they’re making is that it was handled through a specialist who works with clients looking for specific cars.
Car
Ferrari 812
The Ferrari 812 is a very expensive Ferrari with a powerful V12 engine. In this story, it’s one of the top-tier cars involved.
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is one of the most famous sports cars ever made by Porsche. Here, it’s just being name-dropped as another expensive car in the story.
Brand
CarVertical
CarVertical is a website/app that looks up a car’s past using available records. The point is to help you spot problems—like crash damage—before you hand over money.
Car
Golf Gtd
The Golf is a small everyday car that’s usually chosen because it’s practical. The podcast mentions it helping out when there were problems with another car, meaning it was useful and dependable. It’s brought up as a car that can keep things running.
Term
noise mods
“Noise mods” usually refers to aftermarket changes intended to alter the sound of the car, most commonly exhaust-related modifications. These can make the car feel more exciting, but they don’t necessarily improve ride quality or handling.
Term
twitchy
“Twitchy” is how drivers describe a car that feels jumpy—like it responds too quickly to small movements. It can make the car feel harder to control smoothly.
Term
daily
“Daily” means using the car every day. The host is saying they’d use the Clio as their everyday car on weekends.
Term
air conditioning
Air conditioning is what cools the car’s cabin. They’re saying the A/C on their car isn’t working, and that influenced what they chose to do.
Term
AC
AC here means the car’s air conditioning. If the switches for it are broken, the AC won’t work properly.
Term
deep storage
Deep storage means the car has been sitting for a long time with little or no use. When you bring it back, you may need to check that everything still works properly.
Term
timing belt
A timing belt is a belt inside the engine that keeps the engine’s timing correct. If it’s not replaced when it should be, it can cause major engine damage.
Term
baffles
Baffles are like internal walls inside the exhaust. They make the exhaust gas take a more complicated path, which helps quiet the sound and change the tone.
Term
mufflers
A muffler is part of the exhaust that makes the car quieter. It changes how the exhaust sounds by controlling how the gases move inside.
Term
back box
The back box is the muffler section near the rear of the car’s exhaust. Changing it is one of the easiest ways to make the exhaust sound louder or different.
Term
silencers
Silencers are parts of the exhaust meant to reduce noise. Depending on what’s inside, they can make the exhaust much quieter—or, if they’re basically just tubes, they won’t quiet it much at all.
Term
whistle
A whistle is a sharp, high-pitched sound from the exhaust. It can happen when exhaust gases are flowing in a way that creates a resonance or when the exhaust isn’t sealed right.
Concept
Le Mans car sound
“Le Mans car sound” is a way of saying the exhaust now has that old-school race-car vibe—louder and more characterful. It’s not a technical measurement, more like a sound description fans recognize.
Concept
burnouts
Burnouts are when you spin the tires to make smoke and heat them up. It’s usually done for fun at car events, but it can destroy tires fast.
Concept
donuts
Donuts are when you spin the car in a circle with the tires, kind of like a controlled skid. It’s fun to watch, but it can wear out tires quickly.
Term
speed six engine
The Speed Six is a specific TVR engine. The key point here is that it has a very recognizable sound, and the host says it’s the same engine character across several TVR cars.
Term
boost control
Boost control is how the car manages “extra air pressure” from a turbo/supercharger. If it’s set up well, the engine can make more power without running into trouble.
Term
liftoff noise
Liftoff noise is the sound you hear when you take your foot off the gas on a turbo car. It’s usually caused by how the turbo and intake/exhaust valves react when boost is suddenly reduced.
Car
Aston Martin V12 Vantage
The Aston Martin V12 Vantage is a sporty Aston Martin coupe with a big V12 engine. The podcast talks about getting the chance to drive one, which shows it’s a special car people want to experience. It’s known for being fast and sounding impressive.
Car
DC5 Integra
The Honda Integra DC5 is a particular version of the Integra. It’s front-wheel drive and comes as a hatchback, which can make it easier to live with than some other Integra versions.
Car
Acura Integra
The Acura Integra is a compact car that’s made to drive more like a sporty car than a normal commuter. The podcast talks about the DC5 version and how much someone likes it. It’s mentioned because it’s a well-liked enthusiast model.
Term
Front-wheel drive
Front-wheel drive means the front wheels do the work of both steering and moving the car. Many cars use it because it’s efficient and easy to drive.
Car
R32 Golf
The R32 is a sporty version of the Volkswagen Golf. The podcast mentions it as a car someone would like to own. It’s basically a more performance-focused Golf than the standard models.
Car
Nissan R32
The Nissan Skyline is a performance car that many car fans know and talk about. The podcast mentions it as part of a list of cars someone wants. It’s brought up because it’s considered a sporty, desirable model.
Car
BMW E92
The BMW 3 Series is a mid-size luxury car (a sedan) that’s designed to feel good to drive. People bring it up when they’re talking about BMWs that are meant to be more than just comfortable. In the podcast, it’s connected to the idea of an M3-style performance car.
Car
BMW E92 M3
The BMW E92 M3 is a sporty BMW made by BMW’s performance team (M). It’s famous for a strong, exciting engine and a car that feels fun to drive without being totally impractical.
Car
Volkswagen R32
The Volkswagen R32 is a sporty version of the Golf family. People like it because it’s still practical for everyday driving, but it feels more exciting than a normal hatchback.
Car
Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG
The Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG is a sporty Mercedes convertible made by AMG. It’s meant to feel more powerful and exciting than a normal SLK, while still being a manageable size for everyday use.
Term
V8
A V8 is an engine with eight cylinders. It usually means the car feels punchier and sounds more dramatic than smaller engines.
Car
Honda S2000
The Honda S2000 is a small two-seat roadster that’s built to feel very sporty. The hosts are saying it can be uncomfortable to live with, even though it’s a fun car.
Car
Mercedes-Benz SLK55
The Mercedes-Benz SLK55 is a faster, more powerful version of the SLK roadster. The discussion is about whether it’s a good buy at low prices and what it costs to maintain.
Car
Mercedes-Benz C55
The Mercedes-Benz C55 is a sporty version of the C-Class. They’re using it as a comparison to suggest the SLK55’s engine should be tough and not too easy to “kill.”
Term
Auto
“Auto” means the car shifts gears by itself. The speaker is hinting that the driving experience may be different with an automatic versus a manual.
Term
visceral drive
A “visceral drive” means the car feels exciting in a real, physical way as you drive it. The host is saying this one doesn’t give that kind of intense, immediate feeling.
Car
Audi RS4
The Audi RS4 is a fast, sporty version of the Audi A4. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because it looks and feels like a smaller version of a more extreme supercar. It’s meant to be both practical and exciting to drive.
Car
Slr Mclaren
The SLR McLaren is a very expensive, rare supercar. In the podcast, it’s used as a comparison for how another car looks. The point is that it’s an eye-catching, high-end design people recognize.
Term
hard top convertible
A hard top convertible has a solid roof that folds away, instead of a cloth roof. Because it’s solid, it can be quieter and warmer than a soft-top in winter.
Car
Audi TTRS
The Audi TTRS is a sporty, higher-performance version of the Audi TT. It’s designed to feel fast and stable, not like a basic commuter car.
Term
Mark II
“Mark II” just means the second generation of that car model. It’s a way to tell which version of the TT RS they’re talking about.
Term
link bags
“Link bags” doesn’t clearly match a common car term, so it’s likely the speaker meant something else. It may refer to a modification, but the exact part/setup isn’t certain from this snippet.
Term
VR6
VR6 is a type of V6 engine used by Volkswagen Group. It’s designed to be compact, and the hosts are saying some TT versions come with that VR6 engine.
Car
Volkswagen TT Mark II
The Volkswagen TT Mark II is a specific generation of the TT coupe. They’re talking about which version looks better and that some Mark II cars can come with a VR6 V6 engine.
Car
Audi TTS
The Audi TTS is a sporty version of the Audi TT. The podcast mentions how the earlier TT models look, and that they seem cool and aggressive. It’s meant to be a fun, compact car with a performance feel.
Term
Busso
“Busso” is a nickname for a well-known Alfa Romeo V6 engine. People often associate it with a really distinctive sound, which is why the hosts bring it up.
Car
Alfa Romeo 147
The Alfa Romeo 147 is a compact hot-hatch platform known for its distinctive Italian character and, in some trims, the brand’s “Busso” V6 heritage. Here, the hosts mention borrowing a 147 and not liking how it sounded, and they also discuss whether it “does it for you” compared with other Alfa models.
Car
Alfa Romeo GT
The Alfa Romeo GT is a compact coupe from Alfa Romeo’s lineup, often discussed alongside other “Italian character” cars. In this segment, it’s mentioned as a model the hosts don’t feel is the right kind of Alfa compared to Busso-powered options.
Term
5-cylinder
A 5-cylinder engine has five cylinders in a row. Because of how it fires, it usually sounds different from 4-cylinder or 6-cylinder engines.
Term
engine note
“Engine note” just means how the engine sounds. People listen to the pitch and tone, especially as you rev it.
Term
spicy remap
A “remap” is an aftermarket reprogramming of the engine control unit (ECU) to change how the car delivers power—often by adjusting fueling and ignition timing. Calling it “spicy” implies a more aggressive tune than stock, usually aimed at noticeably stronger throttle response and acceleration.
Term
launch control
Launch control is a mode that helps the car accelerate quickly from a stop. It tries to keep the wheels from spinning too much so you get a better start.
Car
Audi Rs3
The Audi RS 3 is a sporty version of the Audi A3. The podcast talks about launch control, which is a feature that helps you get moving fast from a stop. It’s described as a fun weekend car rather than a basic daily driver.
Car
Lexus LFA
The Lexus LFA is a very rare, very fast supercar made by Lexus. The podcast mentions it to highlight how special and “legendary” it feels compared to other famous supercars. It’s the kind of car most people only see occasionally.
Car
Porsche Carrera GT
The Porsche Carrera GT is a rare supercar built for serious performance. The podcast brings it up when comparing it to other famous supercars, meaning it’s considered in the same top group. It’s not a common car, so it tends to get attention.
Term
engine noise
They’re talking about how the car sounds—especially the engine and exhaust. The whole debate is about which car has the most satisfying sound and whether you can make different cars sound similar.
Car
Nissan Gtr
The Nissan GT-R is a fast sports car made for performance driving. The podcast talks about how much they like the sound it makes when you drive it. It’s mentioned because the noise and feel are a big part of the experience.
Term
V6
A V6 is an engine with six cylinders. In this segment, they’re talking about the specific kind of sound a V6 makes.
Car
Volkswagen Golf
The Volkswagen Golf is a popular everyday car. Here, they’re basically debating whether a Golf can deliver the kind of engine noise and vibe people usually associate with faster cars.
Car
Audi TT
The Audi TT is a sporty Audi that’s meant to feel more fun than a regular commuter car. In this discussion, they’re comparing how it sounds compared with other choices.
Car
Ford Mustang Mach 1
The Ford Mustang Mach 1 is a higher-performance version of the Mustang. They’re saying it has a better-sounding engine note, and they connect that to changes in the engine.
Brand
BBS
BBS makes aftermarket-style wheels that are known for good quality and a distinctive multi-spoke look. Here they’re saying the car originally came with BBS wheels from the factory.
Term
factory wheels
“Factory wheels” means the wheels that the car came with from the factory. They’re pointing out that the Mach 1 had those BBS wheels installed originally, not added later.
Term
manual
A manual is a car where you change gears yourself using a clutch and a stick. Some drivers like it because it feels more connected to the engine.
Term
res delete
A “res delete” is when someone removes a small exhaust component that affects the sound. Usually it makes the exhaust note louder or changes the tone.
Car
Cadillac Lyric
The Cadillac Lyriq is an electric SUV, meaning it runs on electricity instead of gasoline. The podcast mentions it while talking about the name and what it reminds them of. It’s a luxury EV meant for comfortable everyday driving.
Car
Honda Hrv
The Honda HR-V is a small crossover SUV meant for everyday driving. The podcast mentions it because someone saw an ad for one and is considering it. It’s typically the kind of car people look at for practical use.
Term
murdered out
“Murdered out” just means the car is done up to look almost entirely black. It’s a style choice meant to look darker and more stealthy.
Term
number plate
A number plate is the license plate on a car. Blurring it helps protect the person’s privacy so viewers can’t identify the car.
Term
lower than standard
“Lower than standard” means the car is sitting closer to the ground than it did from the factory. That usually happens when the suspension is adjusted or upgraded.
Car
Neuer Class
“Neue Klasse” is BMW’s name for a new design direction for future cars. The podcast is talking about what people think of the new look, especially for the next 7 Series. It’s mentioned because it signals how BMW plans to change its cars in the future.
Car
Chevrolet Corvette
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car made for speed and driving fun. The podcast mentions it because someone spotted one and reacted to it. It’s the kind of car people recognize quickly.
Car
Ferrari F80
The Ferrari F80 is a high-performance supercar from Ferrari. The podcast mentions it as something that stands out and gets attention. It’s brought up because it’s a notable new Ferrari model.
Car
Ferrari F430
The Ferrari F430 is a high-performance sports car made by Ferrari. The podcast mentions it while talking about how each generation tends to have something similar or expected. It’s brought up because it’s a famous Ferrari model.
Car
E60
“E60” is a BMW 5 Series from the mid-2000s. The point here is that some people thought it looked ugly at first, but later others started liking it.
Car
Ferrari 550
The Ferrari 550 Maranello is a V12 Ferrari grand tourer. The host is grouping it with other Ferraris that people didn’t like as much when they first appeared.
Car
Ferrari 360 Ferrari
The Ferrari 360 is a famous mid-engine Ferrari with a V8. The host is saying people criticized it when it came out, but they still think it’s a good-looking car.
Car
Ferrari 355
The Ferrari 355 is a mid-engine V8 Ferrari that many people love for how it looks. In this segment, the host is saying the 355 looks better than the newer 360.
Car
Mercedes A45 AMG
The Mercedes A45 AMG is the sporty, high-performance version of the A-Class. Here, they’re talking about how the older A45 looked dated compared with newer ones.
Car
Mercedes CLA
The Mercedes CLA is a smaller Mercedes that looks a bit like a coupe. People pay attention to how its styling changes from one generation to the next.
Car
BMW M135I
The BMW 1 Series is a small hatchback car. The podcast talks about how the looks changed over time, with some versions looking dated and newer ones looking better. It’s mentioned because people care about what the car looks like when shopping.
Car
Audi Q7
The Audi Q7 is Audi’s bigger SUV. They’re using it as an example of Audi’s styling trend toward very large grilles.
Term
massive grille
A “massive grille” just means the front grille looks unusually big. The hosts are talking about a design trend where some brands made the grille much larger than in earlier years.
Car
Audi A8
The Audi A8 is Audi’s top, luxury flagship sedan. Here, the hosts are talking about how that specific A8’s front grille looks and how it represents the brand’s style. They also use it to make a point about what a “top” car should include.
Concept
flagship car
A flagship car is the brand’s “top” model—the one meant to show off the best it can do. Here, the hosts are saying it’s wrong when the flagship car doesn’t get the flagship-level engine. Their point is that the top car should match the top engineering.
Term
intake noise
Intake noise is the sound you hear from the engine breathing—air moving into it. Some setups make that sound louder and more noticeable.
Term
spicy pipes
“Spicy pipes” is slang for an exhaust setup that’s louder and more exciting. It usually means the car’s sound gets more intense.
Concept
parts bin sharing
“Parts bin sharing” means using the same parts in lots of different cars. The hosts are saying that even a very expensive Bugatti can use parts that were originally made for other Volkswagen Group models.
Concept
part sharing between car manufacturers
The hosts describe a supply-chain reality: car manufacturers often source and reuse components across different brands and models. They frame it as a partnership where one company supplies engines or other parts, and they add a specific example (mirrors shared between a Volkswagen and multiple supercars) to show how widespread this is.
Car
TVR Tuscan
The TVR Tuscan is a 90s British sports car. The hosts mention it to make the point that even niche sports cars can use some of the same supplier parts as much more mainstream models.
Car
Volkswagen Corrado
The Volkswagen Corrado is a regular-ish VW coupe from the 80s/90s. The point here is that some of its parts (like mirrors) can be the same as parts used on much more expensive supercars.
Car
Mclaren F1
The McLaren F1 is one of the most iconic supercars ever made. In this discussion, it’s used to show that some parts (like mirrors) can come from the same sources as parts on far cheaper cars.
LIVE
They said to us, well, the car is actually for quite high-profile clients.
And who is that?
It got sold to J.K. of Jamaica.
I enjoy living rent-free in your house.
It is so spacious.
I have room to lay down.
Edwin can come in and live in your mind.
Anyone can be there. It is wonderful.
I'd like to suggest a new technology to add to Gantry's.
It's a clown camera.
No, it's a gun.
OK.
Hello and welcome back to the 81st cars rule everything around me podcast with
myself, Edwin, William to my left, Benjamin to my front back.
Hello. Whoa.
Yeah, clean.
That's good.
At the beginning of every cream episode, we answer the question with a car's rule
or ruin everything around us.
William, there is a lack of a yellow thing here.
There is still people are going to be antsy.
I'm antsy.
Yeah, trust me. If you're antsy, I'm antsy.
They've waited antsy together three weeks now.
Wow, I've waited 20 something years.
So trust me, I love Titanic.
You're way older than that.
Yeah, that's right.
No, much longer is happening.
It's happening. I'm just that there's lots of
finance related bureaucratic red tips.
There's lots of crap happening.
And basically so the car when you buy a car on auction like that,
if you don't collect it the day after and pay it in cash, which I cannot do.
You it goes into storage.
So yeah, basically, I am also currently just just racking up a storage fee.
Tough, which I keep forgetting about.
That's that's going to be nice when I get it.
But yeah, I'm hoping I'm hoping this week
Shedfest will have been by the time you're listening to this, I'm only hoping
that it will be there for that.
If it wasn't, I'm sorry, but it will be somewhere soon.
It will be in the future.
Now, so is it a ruin because of that?
Because it's still a rule because it's because it is it is there.
It's a summer of and there is another.
There is another. It's a rule.
Do we talk about this now?
The old where the galardo went?
I think so. I think let's get it straight out there.
So this last past weekend, a little bit ago for you now,
if you're a creamer listening is was a Mr.
Scramble, Mr. Scramble Eggs, and it is a great event.
If you have not considered doing a scramble,
they are one of the best events, in my opinion.
Bista, we do the food and fuel at Bista, where it's the front part,
the hangar and the fields.
But in Bista Scramble, they open up like the old ammo stores and all the really
cool bits and there's just cars everywhere, just full of eggs.
That's why they call it Scramble.
Of course, there you go.
So I went I went on Sunday in the Tuscan after I'll talk about that in a bit.
But I as I was going in a very kind man,
I think he said he was a creamer.
So shout out to you.
He said, I love the channel.
Have a golden ticket, Charlie, but I looked at the gold ticket and he said,
it gets you into the show.
I thought, oh, cool.
That means I mean, like the little bit preferred parking, not the back,
the back rooms.
You went, no, no, that gets you into like the centre of it.
So I was just in the centre of Bista Scramble,
go out walking around and I saw a little yellow bingle looking directly.
I mean, I said to my mate, that looks a lot like Will's car.
And lo and behold, out on the screen, we're looking at right now,
a yellow Lamborghini Gallardo with the plate GK04 UWV.
Well, why is that important to that plate?
Because that is my old car, now old car.
So now basically last Friday, that car was basically confirmed.
I had the sort of final payment bits come through.
That is gone.
It's gone to its new owner and it literally had an MOT on the Saturday
and then was at Sunday Scramble on the Sunday.
So quite a nice turnaround.
It looks basically the same.
It's on the original plate.
There's no longer spaces on it.
It's had the wheels refurbished.
Wheels are now a little bit shadowy.
It had to have a couple.
There was a couple of bits on that car that they wanted to be perfect.
So basically that car was sold through DK Engineering, which is incredibly cool.
I reached that.
They said they were after a Gallardo for a client.
And I said, look, because of Mercy Lago, I might be interested in doing that.
Sold it through them.
Part of the reason I did that, because I did have other office on the table.
And actually, some of them were actually more is that I just wanted to deal with DK.
And I knew that going to DK meant that we could go to DK.
And that was what a few weeks ago we talked about that secret thing we went to go and look at.
Shout out to the Creamers who are at DK Engineering.
It was crazy.
And thank you very much to James for giving us, well,
giving, getting someone to give us a tour of Freddie.
Incredibly nice people.
I was a bit worried.
Obviously, there's a lot of very rich and powerful people that deal with DK.
So I thought a lowly Gallardo, they're going to go, yeah, yeah,
put it in the corner and piss off.
But they were just incredibly nice, really, really nice, gave us a proper tour.
They also gave us branded water.
I've still got it in my face.
I've kept the ball.
I have kept the ball.
But I'd love to go back at some point, because they're like facility,
whatever you want to call it, is unbelievable.
And we only we only scratch the surface.
Yeah, they've got this.
Probably a lot of stuff they don't even want to show or whatever else.
But there's things going on there.
But more importantly, they said to us, well, the car is actually for quite high
profile clients. Yeah.
And who is that? Well, it got sold to JK of Jamiroquai.
Now, I got a message from Thomas, actually, of horsepower hunters.
He was the first person that Edwin sent me a picture of the car, but he didn't know
and it was related to JK and Thomas sent me a message said,
JK owns your car, question mark.
And I just said, what?
Because I was like, again, they did say it's going to go to someone who's going to
use it, someone who's very, very cool.
But I thought, and it just be some some rich dude or whatever.
And no, it turns out JK has bought it.
Crazy. He took it.
I don't think he drove it. I think a friend of his drove it.
He took an 812 and I think a flat nose 911.
The three of them there.
But I was baffled.
My spirits were lifted tenfold.
I was just smashing out Jamiroquai in my 600
pound after a meal at the weekend.
Well, I was like, I literally kept saying I kept saying to my girlfriend, I said,
JK, my car, JK's looking at the car going,
that's X will from TDC. That one is
why I said, I just just baffled.
Even if you told me two years ago, even a year ago,
that JK would buy my Galardo so that I can get a Merci Lago.
Wild. Make that make sense.
But yeah, that's really because that's a requirement.
Now, before it was like, JK would be a really cool podcast guest.
No, no, he needs no, we now need to JK.
So JK needs to be on the podcast.
I would quite like to get the double.
Even if it's not even for a podcast,
I'd quite like to get the Merci Lago and the Galardo together, because obviously
they never they never got a chance to cross over because I can't afford that.
But it would be cool to see them together and then do a podcast and have a look at
his cars and just speak to all of the above.
Technically, they did cross over.
Well, I was used to own it till Friday of last week and you bought the Merci Lago
last Sunday. I haven't paid for the Merci Lago yet.
And the absolutely not in Wilson.
But legally, you want it.
Yeah. Well, legally, we'll have the right to pay for it.
So you have two Lamborghinis.
But yeah, crazy world.
But yeah, confirmed JK bought my Lamborghini.
Wild, which is mental.
So rule because of that that.
I've been it has no value to me, but it's just cool.
The whole week, that whole Sunday, I was like, JK, my car, JK.
I'm going to see that car sell for like a quarter of a million pounds in the future,
because it goes ex-Jr. Miracleye singer, JK ex-Galardo.
I think that's ex-TTC.
Thank you very much. I worked on that myself.
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Shout out cover. Cool. Benjamin.
I'm going to go for a ruin.
OK. Well, you know what was coming then?
I'm going to sell my S2000.
Bloody. I didn't think you'd come out with it.
Yeah, I didn't think I was going to talk about it, but I am.
Yeah. Yeah.
We've got this is a safe space.
The love is gone. Love is gone.
Love is gone.
Something very sad happened this morning.
It's tough when you spoke about it, couldn't it?
Because you came in this morning.
Today is Monday.
Today is Monday.
Today is Monday.
You've come in from your weekend and you said you took the S2000 for a drive.
And you think because sometimes that can reignite a flame.
The weather is right.
Everything is perfect.
You'll go out for a drive and you go, you know what, this is just what I needed.
I'm keeping this car or it pushes you to go and do more, fix more of something else.
But you didn't have that, did you?
I just don't love it.
That's tough.
And it's a rough one.
I think listeners will know this.
I think it's pretty obvious my reaction is to it over the last few months.
I just don't I don't feel anything to it.
Right.
It really annoys me.
I drove it from my house, my girlfriend's house, which isn't that far.
It's probably like half an hour.
But after that drive, I got out of the car feeling kind of annoyed.
So I was in it like, I just I want to like it and I don't like it.
Is there is there something you can do?
I think it's like a sort of counseling.
But like doing a modification, doing something that goes, you know what?
The fire rises to the noise would help.
But it's like when I hit, if you hit the tech in it, it's not nice induction kit.
I feel something then for a second, but it's not it's not like I love this car.
It's that that's car noise.
It's like when I was in your tusk and I went, I'm like, wow, this isn't my car.
But I'm enjoying the noise of it.
Do you know what I mean?
It's my car changing that we'll get on to it.
I'm sure it's like, but changing that noise has changed that car completely.
But that's what I mean.
If you were to just try the exhaust thing all day, literally all of today,
we have been trying to trying to give Ben different options.
We're like, there's got to be another way.
There has to be another way of this.
It's I accepted it yesterday.
I think I've felt it for a while.
I just don't.
We had a debate earlier about that.
I actually said publicly if I love that car.
I don't think I have said that claim.
You claim that when we asked you if you love it, that you would that you chose
your words very carefully again, this falls into this relationship thing where it's
it's no, no, no, I do like you.
Yeah, it's don't join us now.
It's just in my future.
It's that it's that part of relationship where you both know it's over.
But who's going to let go first?
And hopefully it's not.
It's probably the SDS.
It happens as the part of relationship where you have to modify.
Yeah, but, you know, cut the back box open and, you know, sling.
We're really making things.
Sorry, you came mod.
So sling to the pipes.
You put two more pipes on the back.
Would you be open to trying that first before the divorce?
No, because my beef with it is not the sound.
It's the way it drives.
Well, Ben, Ben's got can we try again?
It's like, Ben's gone, no, I'm off.
But would you, but do you not think there would be a little bit of regret there?
Because what if in the future or like someone buys an S2000 and it's just right?
It's had the right noise mods.
It looks right.
I've seen them.
And then you hear it and you go, why didn't I do that to mine?
Here's where I feel.
I said it's Julia, but I'll set it for the podcast.
I don't like how it drives, right?
I don't like how twitchy it is.
Edwin told me that's just how it is.
But I don't like how twitchy it is.
It doesn't fill me with any confidence.
I know I span it.
But when you say twitchy, how are you?
It feels like the way I describe it is the imagine.
OK, so imagine riding a bike.
You have handlebars.
You never forget.
You wouldn't, an elephant wouldn't, would it?
The handlebars are a certain width, right?
See if it's very stable.
The S2000's handling to me feels like that, but you've made the handlebars
like where your hands are basically close together, where you can turn a little bit.
You're just turning the wheels by actually moving the wheel.
It's too twitchy.
I want to get a slob in there.
I'm not saying that it's not objectively a good car.
Everyone says it's a great car.
They all enjoy it, and that's fine.
Not for me.
Not everyone.
I have heard a lot of people that they're not because the engine's not.
Although it is amazing, it does lack a little bit of gas code.
You have to really give it someone to make it, make it real quick.
But I mean, I just don't think it's my car.
And yes, I said to these guys earlier, I could put it on some soft suspension,
which would probably make it a bit less twitchy.
I could put it on some standard wheels.
But if I did all of that, and some standard wheels as well,
because I guess that probably doesn't help, if I did all of that,
I would probably, I wouldn't like how it looks.
And part of me, the only thing I do like now is how it looks.
It looks really good.
I do still walk away from it and look at it and go, that looks great.
But you like the way it looks, but you do want to get rid of it because of the way it drives.
But if you made it drive better, would you not?
If it drove really well and you got out of it and you thought that was the,
that's exactly the drive I had in my head, how I imagined it.
And if it didn't look quite right, I don't think that would affect you as much as it does,
as this way round does.
But then he'd go, right, that's perfect.
I'm going to slap some wheels and some loads and it's perfect.
I'm going to take those wheels and loads off and it'd be perfect.
I don't necessarily think it is.
And the cycle continues.
I'm sure the mods don't help it.
I just don't think it's for me.
The Clio, I love the Clio the way it drove.
I would get in that, like what I would do is I had the X5 on the Clio.
So in the week, I'd drive the X5.
I like the X5.
But when I got to the weekend, I was like, yes, I can daily the Clio.
I can chuck stuff in it.
I can go and I really want to go for a drive in it.
Whereas the S1000, this weekend was beautifully sunny.
And for Saturday, I had a perfect opportunity to go around and do stuff.
I had little windy country roads I could have taken to the Gulf.
I looked at it.
I went out and taken the Gulf.
That's a crazy one.
And it's not like I did it because of air conditioning.
The Gulf air conditioning isn't working currently.
So you know what?
This is the worst thing.
Ben earlier said he was like, man, I love the Gulf.
It's so good.
I love the Gulf.
And then he said, yeah, when those switches are broken, don't have any AC,
can't use this.
I can't open the windows because my windows switch is broken.
I need to fix that.
And my air conditioning needs to be gassing.
So I was just sitting on a hop.
I still have it.
I just love that crazy.
That means it's time for the S2000 to go.
So by the time this podcast is out, it may already be upset.
So I'm going to bring it to Shedfest because car event.
Yeah, then I will at some point, it might not be up for sale by the time this comes out.
But if not, now we've said it before, 99.9% of you are all good with this.
Please can we not have clowns?
None of you are original.
I'll give you a packet.
Shut up.
Shut up.
If you're serious, please do let Ben know if you're interested
because the last, the Clio went to a creamer, follower.
I believe so.
And they've enjoyed it and liked it.
So perhaps there could be a deal to be done.
And all jokes aside, we joke about the engine oil thing, but it is actually fine.
Yeah.
That actually is fine.
We joke many times.
We had that cast started up after some deep storage and not fine.
Not a peep.
Listen, I'm not going to say it could probably, probably whack attention on it.
I have a record of it being done, but it doesn't necessarily need...
Here is Ben the salesman.
Things I don't want to hear.
What I'm going to view a car.
You could probably whack attention on it.
I'm sure it needs a timing belt.
I'm not going to say it's perfect.
I'm not going to clay it.
I'm going to be honest about it.
It had, there are stuff that you could do to it,
but it also has had some nice bits done recently.
Simply lovely.
So is it a ruin for that reason?
It's a ruin.
And, but it does mean these guys believe I am now quitting cars.
I think it's...
I just don't think there's another car coming.
I think it could be a while before we see another car.
I think you'll have some time out of the scene for a while.
I think it could be a couple of months where I have only one car, but I'll come back.
But a couple of months becomes years.
Years become...
There's never a right time for that.
Can you think that will happen me working here?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
There will be a few months where I probably have one car.
There is one other thing Fassett's talk about,
because what's Summer Solace this Ben?
What's that date?
That'll be June the 20th something.
Now, there was an official L put on the line.
This was months ago.
I've got time to spare.
Did we ever mention this in the podcast?
I don't know if we did, but Will said for an official L,
then I think something will come along and it will force you to sell at S2000.
And then that was where Ben said,
absolutely, of course I'm not going to sell that car.
I enjoy living rent free in your house.
It is so spacious.
I have room to lay down.
I can invite Edwin can come in and live in your mind.
Anyone can be there.
It is wonderful.
So there might be another scroll afloat.
So that's a rule and a rule.
It's a definitely rule for me.
This last weekend I got the Tuscan.
I put some form of pipes on the car.
They are not related to felines at all.
Do they look like them?
What's that?
They look.
They just look like pipes.
Oh, they are pipes.
They're just pipes that go on the car.
Nice set of cats on that.
Of course, there's cats on the car.
Who's asking?
Of course, there's cats on the car.
Well, it has an MOT.
It's valid, so it has cats.
Exactly right.
Obviously, it wouldn't have passed that way, would it?
And then the rear bank boxes, they have, they're like carbon
motorcycle ones.
They were dying.
So I replaced them with some ones that definitely have baffling in
and they definitely silence.
I got some stick for that, calling them mufflers.
That's American.
Yeah.
Silence or is it UK?
Back box.
So I'll stock some silencers on it.
But they're not.
They're just tubes.
And my god, does it sound good?
That completely transformed that car.
I already liked that car.
I loved it.
But now, the sound it made when you first got it made it sound a
little bit beat up.
A little bit like, oh, there's something missing there.
Yeah.
Because it was that whistle.
But now it sounds like a 60s Le Mans car.
It has a lot of good vibes.
And this last weekend, if you're a creamer listening,
we would have been at Shedfest.
Alex's big show, it hopefully made it up there.
And I hopefully did some donuts and I hopefully did some burnouts.
So hopefully some of you heard it.
Otherwise, you heard a speed six engine shattering into oblivion.
But for now, right now, I'm over the moon because it was a
lovely weekend, made the car a bit louder, worked on the MX-5 as
well, got that working a bit more.
My boost control now works, now makes like 200-odd horsepower.
And then went to Mr. Scramble Egg.
So it's lovely.
I'm happy.
I'm all...
The TVR, I heard it in person for the first time today in the car.
But I heard it for the first time from outside.
I was in the ML at the sunroof open so I could hear it.
And honestly, if you closed your eyes on a proper pull,
it's the liftoff noise it makes.
It, like you said, like an old Le Mans car.
It is.
It wouldn't sound out of place on the grid at like a members meeting.
Yeah.
It is that.
It's crazy.
And it is the only...
That engine, because that engine is the same in the Scaris,
the T350, the Tomora, the Tusken.
That speed six engine is unique to sound like that.
You cannot make that.
I've never heard an overrun on any other car that does it.
It's so good.
I love that car so very much.
It is very good.
So I'm in rule.
What?
Shall we start?
Letting a side down, Benjamin.
Come on, Ben.
We need some spirits up next week.
You've got to find the car that you love.
He's a bad omen.
Very quick one.
Tell the gang what you're thinking of that your replacements are,
because maybe you get offered one.
And shout out to the...
Struggling.
Shout out to the creamy that came up and said,
they would let you drive their V12 Vantage at Bister.
Who said that?
Don't worry about it.
That's for me to know and you to find out.
Someone offers driving a Benster as well.
Hey.
Yeah, that was Thomas.
Yeah.
And you're not old enough.
So you're thinking...
That was tough.
DC5 Integra, you really like?
Yeah.
Why?
You said there was a downward tone on my gear.
I don't know if I can afford one.
But we're going to...
We're going to...
Well, worry about that later.
DC5 Integra, I would quite like.
You really like.
Same form divide.
No, people will be confused,
but it's because it's more hatchback.
It's a bit more usable.
Front-wheel drive.
Clio197 slash 200.
I do really want one of those,
but then is it two?
Am I going back?
I'd step him back in life.
I don't think you are.
I would like a newer Clio.
And an R32 Golf, Mark V.
Yeah, but I don't think I can have an R32 Golf
because I then have just have two Golfs.
But then you...
What if you had a bit of time out the game?
You put some pennies together,
and you put some more pennies together.
Couple more pennies.
You get your S2000,
but then you get something...
Either you temporarily go and get yourself clear
or something,
it's going to...
Because it only costs you 2,000, 3,000, 4,000 pounds.
And you like the cheap color.
And then you just rag the living piss out of that.
Or you just save those peas.
And you like something like an M3,
like an E92.
Oh!
I could feel you on one of those.
Oh, don't...
That's tough.
Oh, I have to get one more of them.
Now, Ben, okay.
Let's look at that sort of accessibility in the market.
Yep.
Looking around the 15,000 to 20,000 pound rates.
What is there that takes your fancy?
There's...
You've got your E92 M3s.
I would like a V8.
That's why I think...
I think the R32 is smart.
It still feels kind of modern for you.
You're like...
And it's usable,
and it's nice,
and it's still kind of practical.
But it's giving you all the theater that I think you desire.
I've come up with a car for Ben.
What is that?
I'm going to say it,
and you're going to go,
wow, it really is Benjamin.
An SLK55 AMG.
It's just...
It's just as esty enough for you, isn't it?
It's just esty enough,
but it has the V8,
and it could be a little bit spicy,
but then also just normal to drive.
Well, what are your thoughts of the two-seater thing?
Post-S2000.
I thought S2000,
a particularly uncomfortable one, to be fair.
No, but for spacious...
Oh, I have another car.
And the vibe of it,
like you are interested in another two-seater.
Because I've seen a couple SLK55s
coming up around £6,000 and £7,000.
Okay.
And what is the bread to keep one of those alive?
It's just a five and a half.
Is that what's in your C55?
Basically related.
Are they good?
It's just an engine that works and works and works.
You can't do much to kill them.
I know this.
Auto, though.
Auto, though.
Auto like slushie.
No manuals.
No manuals.
Is it a slushie boy?
They're okay, but they're not incredible.
It's not going to be...
It's not a visceral drive.
It's an automatic gearbox.
But not a bad shout.
It would do your V8 thing.
But do you like how they look?
I don't know.
Allow me to pull you up a photo.
An RS4?
It's a miniature SLR McLaren type looking.
My head teacher at school had one of these.
Not a T5, just like a normal one.
Crazy head teacher type.
It would be crazy.
Yeah.
Got a black series out.
I like the width of the arches on that guy.
They're good.
You know what?
With some loads and some space.
Also hard top convertible.
Yes.
So they're usable throughout the winter.
What did we say at TTRS we mentioned earlier?
I really like the idea of that for you, if I'm honest.
TTRS.
That's kind of...
That's Ben Plus.
They're coming down in price,
so they're becoming more accessible.
As far as I'm aware, they're reliable.
But I don't know.
Yeah, from the Mark II.
The Mark II, correct.
I like that.
Because they are also...
Now, what sort of...
As a zesty man, you like a zesty color.
What sort of zesty color is your favorite zesty color?
I don't know why they come in.
Well...
Bright blue is a classic.
Bright blue is a classic.
They come in the red.
Does it allow me?
I think we're just the same.
I don't have red.
You don't like that.
You don't want dogs that's not red.
It is what I imagine, but it's a little bit...
That doesn't even look like an art.
What's the description for that?
He's got a red palette.
Red painted, front like splitter.
But Ben, you know what that could be?
I like the thought of it.
I like the look of it.
And the car too.
And the sound is going to really rumble your feathers.
Five cylinder.
Can you get Manwell Gearbox in that?
You can.
Absolutely.
The manuals are cheaper.
Correct.
They are less sought after.
Wow.
You can also get a bit of NerdFact for you.
A really rare set of seats that have like this
TT repeated pattern across the back of it.
I love it.
I think it's really cool.
How many pounds is he?
You can...
Again, you can find them getting cheaper.
Like around about the 10 Mark is a really shabby one.
Going up to like 15 for a kind of good one.
So thoughts on that?
Thoughts on the TT?
I like that.
You like that?
I enjoy that.
You can get a Mark II TT RS with link bags.
Oh, that would be good.
I've always liked that.
I literally did a spicy place.
I like that.
Oh, so that looks like that.
What's that? 2010?
That looks newer to me than that.
I think so too.
I think the Mark II TT is actually aged quite well.
Because the interiors are lovely as well.
I think because it doesn't have massive screens and stuff.
They actually look quite nice.
On the weekend at VR6 TTs.
And I didn't realise what year that...
I thought that 2006 you can get one of those.
You can also get a Mark II base model with the VR6.
So it's not...
So the Mark I TTs look a bit angry.
They look cool.
They've got the sport bumper.
Or you can get a normal looking TT Mark II.
It's still with the V6.
What about?
Here we go.
Here we go, sports bike.
And Alfa Romeo.
A something older.
Not a spider because that V6 is a bit naff.
That's got GM V6.
But something with a busso.
They don't really...
Like a 147 or a GT.
They don't do it for you?
It will be sacrilege.
But we had that...
We borrowed a 147.
I didn't like how it sounded.
Wow!
That was the best part of it.
It wasn't V6 for me.
I imagine GTR V6 or VR6.
You don't like the...
Which surprises me.
Because you like the way...
It's not V6.
But in terms of...
It's that kind of noise.
It's the TVR kind of noise where it's more gruff.
It's more grumpily.
So you are...
But then a 5-cylinder kind of, he does that.
I'm not familiar with him.
You're not familiar?
Or is it you don't like it?
I'm not familiar with 5-cylinder 5-cylinders.
Ben?
That's the one.
Sorry?
Speaking of 5-cylinders, wasn't it?
You know, we're taking...
This has become fine, Ben and you-car podcast.
But I'm going to play him a TTRS engine note for a quickly.
And it's turbo 5-cylinder.
And it doesn't take much to...
If you care about, you could leave it standard.
You can do a spicy remap.
You can do whatever you like to it.
There's things you can do to it.
You can change wheels.
You've got nice interior modifications.
Okay.
Plus, at the end of the day, it's still just an Audi TT.
Yeah, and it will just work.
You will.
There's a look that you'll be going for.
Yeah, sure.
It's sure.
I've already got it.
But because it's the TTRS, you do.
You shake a little bit of that.
Here we go.
Launch control.
This is launch control from a TTRS.
Obviously an RS3, but this is a bit more weekend car.
That's nice.
Wait for it.
Okay.
You felt apprehensive there.
Yeah, you feel...
I watched your facial...
I watched your emotions in play.
I like it.
But you can't look at what it is.
But you don't love it.
I can't look at what the noise is.
Now, the easiest way...
It gives the exhaust.
It's what gives...
It gives him some more clout.
It's a Mini V10.
It's a Mini-Chit E60.
Okay.
That's that noise you're hearing.
Try to look at what it is.
It's half this boy right here.
Yeah, half an LFA, a Carrera GT.
Half a Shelby.
I've got an absolute whopper of an engine in there.
Look at that thing in there.
What do we...
We also said a Golf R32, I think, would be a great shout for you.
I'd love that.
Because you like the engine.
I love the noise.
It gives you that sort of GTR, that smooth,
purring V6 noise you're after.
But it's also just a Golf.
But you can make it look nice.
But your problem is that you have a Golf.
I have a Golf.
I do.
I agree with you in that way.
I think having two Golfs feels illegal.
But what's wrong with having a TT with that in it?
It's not, but that's a bit different.
TT is a bit different.
Because I was listening to noises on the weekend.
But then you've got a Mach 1.
And a Mach 1 is even more...
You would have a Mach 2?
You could have that shape with a V6.
I know, but I listened to comparison noises.
And the Mach 1 sounds better.
Because it's a revised engine.
Yeah, but you can make them sound the same.
Okay, what about that?
But then the thing is with the Mach 2 3.2 TTs,
they're just a standard body.
So they just look a bit...
Yeah, Mach 1s look better.
I did though.
I liked the TT Mach 1 that Alex and that lot had on their channel
that we drove on the track day last year.
The 1.80.
I liked how that drove.
Yeah, it did drive.
I thought it drove really well.
Well, actually, well, that's a great point.
That Ben was the fastest human on Earth in that car.
So maybe you're destined to have a TT.
It was the way that I remember getting out of it
and liking how it handled.
Now, I'll tell you what, I have always liked Mach 1 TTs.
There are a few good wheels that you can do.
And some setups on them that look very, very nice.
You can get the...
Originally, they came with a factory set of BBSs that look really nice.
I will show you a photo of it.
Here you go.
So that is a fact.
Those are the factory wheels.
They are like a multi-spoke BBS type wheel that came standard on them.
I like that.
So the VR6 and a bit of VR6 noise, that would really get me.
And you'd like a manual.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Row in years.
My ex Sam had a R32 Golf, Mach 5.1.
Actually, quite a few years ago now.
But it was one of the first cars that...
Actually, it was the first performance car that any of me and my mates owned.
And I was like, I'm going to get in there.
I was like, this thing sounds sick.
And it was...
All that was a res delete.
It sounded unbelievable.
Now, I put this to you.
A TT Mach 1 3.2 or a DC5 Integra, which takes your pick.
I want the engine.
What does that mean?
I want the engine of the...
The DC5 are probably better overall as a driving experience.
I prefer the noise of the GTR noise, which is what it basically is.
So in that case, I think we need to be on hunt for a nice spec Mach 1 TT.
A manual Mach 1 TT with a little 3.2 in it.
Difficult to find and appreciating classic to be sure.
Most people will be going for the Mach 2 or the TT RS,
but the car you really want is the Mach 1.
The thinking man's TT.
We're back.
Right, what have we got next after that long anecdote, but we are on...
Another anecdote related to JK that I have to get out because it was very, very funny.
Told a few people today that the Glado had been sold to JK,
which they were all very surprised at.
And then we told Rory.
Yeah.
We didn't tell him explicitly.
We just said, guess who bought the Glado?
And then started singing.
Now, what was it?
I started saying Lyric.
Because I said, think Cosmic Girl.
Yeah.
Think Little L.
And Rory said, Peter Ondre.
I like the idea better that Peter Ondre bought my Glado.
Quite funny, actually.
I don't know if he's that into the sort of mid-2000s manual Lamborghinis, but perhaps I'm wrong.
I had the same thing when my girlfriend got home.
I was playing jameriquae on my speaker, the BO sound thing that I love.
And I said to her, guess who bought Will's Glado?
She said, who?
I pointed at my speaker and she went, the creator of the BO sound mine hasn't.
I went, no, jameriquae.
It just said it was so much comfort.
I think because you said the Lyric, didn't you?
Whatever the Lyric was from one of the songs, Peter Ondre.
Crazy.
Anyway, Peter Ondre confirmed the new Lamborghini Glado.
There he is, collab with jameriquae.
First off on the anecdotes, we'll get to some news bits in a bit.
We have got to send an ad.
I will admit, I don't remember exactly who this person was,
but multiple people have sent it, so you can all take credit.
Benjamin, tell me what we're seeing on the screen.
Right.
On the screen is a Facebook marketplace ad for a Honda HRV.
Right.
First picture is looking pretty good.
It's in the summer set.
Yes.
It's for £550.
And the first image is of the steering wheel.
So a POV shot and the steering wheel is turned.
I'm going to call it 25 degrees to the right.
Okay.
In the second photo.
What?
This photo is of a sort of tight country lane, quite muddy.
And it's on the side.
There's a car on the side.
The description.
Honda HRV, four-wheel drive, brackets, rolled-ish, nine lives special.
But what's impressive is I don't know how you roll it on that road.
Yeah, that's right.
In that fashion.
There is a verge.
Quite a tall verge, but it looks difficult to do that much damage there.
But I like the thing I like most about it is that that is the second photo.
If you use that as the first photo, you'd get thousands of people looking at it.
They went, you know what?
We'll go with the old, we'll go with the cockpit shot.
But I quite like the idea that they rolled it and then went, we'll have to sell it.
Straight on eBay.
Just put it up for sale.
Straight on Facebook, sorry.
Straight off for sale.
But yeah, I like that.
It's brazen and it's very honest as well.
Whenever there was an honest car and an honest ad, that's it right there.
No hiding any damage.
Buy with confidence.
One idea that they rolled the car and then got out and went,
That's what?
Check it out on Facebook.
Yeah, just straight up and then the most little underside shot you can see.
It's all clean, you know, rust free on this side.
We'll show you the passenger or the driver's side a little bit later once I get this unrolled.
And if you want to go and view it, it's just in the same space.
Where's the car?
It's in the same spot.
I'm in this lane.
What number?
No, you'll find it.
Next up we have from you, Edwin, a man at the petrol station.
I was in the Tuscan last week on the way back from a shoot.
And I pulled up at a BP.
It was quite late in the late...
Wow, I can't speak.
Late in the evening.
So it was very quiet.
It was one of those BP's that has a big M&S.
Sounds like right.
Let's get some food.
But as I pulled up, there was a bad boy spec brand new RS6.
Nardo, Nardo Gray, whatever their equivalent they're, you know, they're crayon gray.
The, I think they call it a, what do they call it?
Where all the badges are black, all the trims are black.
Everything's black.
Murdered out, cosy.
That's, that's the one I actually, that's the official one.
They took that box.
Black wheels, red calipers, whopper driving.
Obviously, whopper driving.
And I was like, right, let me see which, which turkey teeth man is driving this car around?
What's in the BP?
And it all looked quite quiet.
I was like, that's weird.
Anyway, bought my condiments and what such.
And as I was leaving, there was a proper old boy tweed jacket.
But like farmer.
Yeah.
And he was looking around the Tuscan.
And I was like, oh, how are you doing?
And he was genuinely nicest dude.
And he was like, oh, he's a rep.
You know, they went under.
They made lovely cars, didn't they?
And I was like, yeah, I've always one to one dreamed of one for many years.
And he was like, oh, congratulations on it.
Really, really good to see it keep going.
I mentioned about the mileage.
He was like, fantastic, fantastic.
He turned around and got the RS6.
Crazy.
And I took a, I happened to take a photo because I was filming.
I wanted to film the Tuscan as I was leaving.
So I happened to catch him in.
I've blurred the number plate.
This is the man getting into an RS6 performance.
Nah.
That is so sorry.
Can we pick now?
I don't want to dox anyone.
If it's, if it's someone you're related to, but we've got the jumper, a knit jumper,
a tweed jacket, perhaps an avocado or two in the hand.
I was going to say, what do you buy?
He's got those, those are working man shoes.
That's a farmer's shoe.
They've been used.
That's shoe.
And I've got, I got a photo of this one.
I got the car.
Look at the spec.
That is a, that is bad boy spec.
Yeah.
That is full like that.
That's just, he's not in the right car.
The whole shebang.
He got in, he must have got in the wrong car.
But I looked, I looked at it and I was like, is he the passenger?
No, he got on the driver's seat, started up.
It sounded, it looked, it looked lower than standard.
And it sounded like it had some spicy pipes.
But who's, is that his?
I wonder if he's the type who's just, he's just had RS6s.
He's just had an RS6 new.
The amount of money that man has tanked on RS6s.
He doesn't care.
He's just got, I get a brand new RS6 every 10 years.
And that's it.
That's me good.
But absolutely.
You know what?
The moment he got in, I was like, now I like the spec.
Before I was like, this is a dickhead spec.
Yeah.
The moment he got in, I was like, kind of cool.
Yeah. He didn't go for it.
I didn't want green.
He's like, no, he walked in, he went, no, I want that one.
Give me the sports, give me everything.
Give me the sports seats.
And the black badges, sir.
Yes.
Yes, I want that.
Of course I want that.
His black badges.
But you know what?
If you know who that is, shout out to your relative.
Old people in cool cars is always cool.
It is always cool.
It is always cool.
Stay, if you're going to be old, at least be cool.
Let's do, let's do some, let's smash out some news, Ben.
I hope you're ready for this.
I wasn't.
Well, let's do it.
Your first one.
Sure.
Completely at random.
The new seven series, please.
The new seven series is here with the Neuer class design.
And I just want to see your opinions on it.
I thought we had a new.
It's the new new.
It's a facelift of the cut.
Oh, so it is.
Okay, well, I get it.
Do you know what?
I don't, I, it's not great, but I don't think it's any worse than the one before.
It's a big fish mouth.
It's the same.
Yeah.
It's very similar.
It has, it has a bit more of an sort of edgy angle at the front.
Is that?
Oh, that's it.
That's the, that's the end of the story.
Oh, my God, when they saw you threw me off.
Those like vents in the front bumper, are they, were they there before?
So I would, I would describe this as it's the, think of that new seven series, the weird,
the weird one with the big screen in the back, but they've made the lights even thinner.
I think they've made them a bit thinner.
The one thing I did remember reading about them though, is that they have now got Rolls Royce
spec, the little pinstripe up the side and the two tone is now.
I was going to say the two tone is, is a bit of Maybach s.
Yeah. So that is now an option that you can choose.
And you can also have different paint styles top to bottom.
So you can have a matte top half and a metallic bottom half.
You can, and they said it's like 600 new colors or something you can choose from.
It's just fetus.
It's off he goes.
It's feeling like an attempt at a Rolls Royce.
But Rolls Royce is one of those under, that is a Rolls Royce, what?
A Rolls Royce is that car underneath, right?
Same car.
So then what is the differentiating factor about it?
Is it going to be actually that much?
Is the back different?
I'm seeing the rear tail lights look to be different from this.
Oh, let me find you that.
The interior is completely different.
The wheels on the previous photo, they look like they look a little bit like the M4 competition
wheels.
But they look like when people put like 17 inch fake versions on like a 330 CI.
Well, they just shouldn't quite be on that car.
The interior as well.
I wonder if you can get a photo of that.
That is one thing at a time.
Yeah. Also, if you could get the footwell up for me and all the lighting options, thank you very much.
So here's the rear.
The rear is now cross-eyed.
Oh, my God.
It's a cross-eyed fish.
I don't understand car designers at the minute.
Well, do you think you ever did?
Do you not look at that and go that little objectively better?
That steering wheel is, that is pony.
I don't, I do not like that at all.
That's just stupid.
And for all the listeners who have made up for it, it's like, it's someone has turned
your steering wheel to the left and then redesigned it in situ.
That's exactly it.
It is the spokes are on the side and the top and bottom are on the left, right?
The rest of the interior, I don't know.
It's just so...
What's the point of making it look...
There's so much.
I don't, I quite like the bar along the...
The sort of pre-aspect.
That's pre-aspect, yeah.
The pre-aspect thing along the, along the front.
I don't mind that.
It's kind of an interesting design feature.
But then you've got, you've already got a shit ton of screens.
So why do we need any of that?
Just because it looks different doesn't make it look good.
The sooner screens die, the better.
Now, you know what?
I'd like to, I'd like to implement a new part of when we look at new cars.
And it's an L or a dub.
L or a dub.
L.
L.
It's not like a massive L.
Do you know what?
Over the previous generation, I don't know much about them.
I don't mind that rear, that actually that much.
I think that with a certain spec could be okay.
But overall, there's a car L for me.
Inside, I'm sure it's lovely and comfortable and whatever.
But yeah.
Now, next Benjamin on news.
Get cut to that.
Ben saw the Corvette on screen.
We looked at each other.
Oh, Ben, should we tell him?
No, we shouldn't tell him.
No, let's not tell him.
No, tell me.
No, no, no, we weren't telling him.
Tell me.
I'm not doing the podcast.
You tell me.
So anyway, so anyway, is a new spiker coming?
Yeah.
So that's all I want to talk about.
So, so the there is a new spiker, which is from your motherland.
There is in the, yeah, so, so there was a man who started the Benz on his
phone because he's trying to research now.
You won't trust me.
You won't find what you're looking for.
There was a man who revived spiker.
The spiker that you're thinking of, the one from the early 2000s,
was a man called Victor Muller.
He started, he restarted the spiker or gained the IP to start car production.
There were then something like three or four bankruptcies along the way.
Then he became the CEO of Saab as that went into bankrupt.
There's a hole up and down.
Then he got sued because he was doing insider trading.
He got arrested, all sorts of stuff.
He has now gained the right, the full intellectual property right
to the spiker name and to produce cars.
And he's basically, he's stood on business.
He's posted a video saying you're late and ready for this.
But we're revealing a car and where is he revealing that car?
Well, there's this car show.
Let me see what it's called.
Monterey car week, something that happens next from there.
They're going to reveal the car there.
But we have worries.
I saw this video and I watched it.
I thought, you know what?
This is all very powerful and very exciting.
And I scrolled to the last post and the post beforehand
and it was like, yeah, flashing badges, blah, blah, blah.
Because they're going to call it a C8, I think.
I think C8 something.
I can't remember.
Sort of reviving.
There are pictures of this car.
There were rough designs of it and an actual physical car,
C8 something like that.
Anyway, but the sort of promo image before,
which was just showing flashes of badges and stuff,
prelly at all.
Yes, not, doesn't roll off the tongue.
Maybe if you had like turbine sounds over it, like jet types.
But I'm like, it sounded electric.
If the new spiker is electric, well and truly, don't bother.
Like that cannot be an electric car.
But now I wonder if their thought is, if you don't know,
spiker originally used the Audi engines back in the day.
I wonder if their thought is, well, we just,
we make the engine anyway and see if people seem to buy them.
They're just buying them for the design and the interior.
But in reality, no, no, no.
People can take a modern Audi and take the four liters or something.
Yeah, but I'm hoping and I'm praying.
Because they're going to have to take, I'm assuming,
they're new and they're, if there is an engine,
they're probably going to be taking it from somewhere.
If they're doing a full on TVR and they're going,
nah, we'll make our own engine.
I don't think you're going to be around for a long time.
No, that's going to be tough.
Still, spiker, it's cool to see them actually,
well, hopefully see them come back.
I think it's the quail.
It is.
Yeah, supposedly it's the quail that they'll be on.
The quail where we will, it's a great event.
And we've also made no progress on that.
So if anyone would like us to go, please do let us know.
If you're from spiker, we could, we could do that.
I'll put on an accent all weekend.
Maybe like our friends at DK engineering.
Best mates.
And you know, have any links or...
Bezzy mates.
Surely JK, you're listening.
JK, if you are listening, aren't you?
I'll tell you where like the money's secretly
stashed in the glado where I left it.
I forgot about that.
Did you take the ACON CD out?
I did.
Okay.
Because that'd be quite funny.
Although did I?
Yes, I did.
I did, I did.
The ACON CD I did take out.
There is.
I have recently realised I am missing a Wu-Tang CD that I was...
They were the only two CDs I had before I put a good head unit into listening to my music.
Now we have to have JK on the podcast so that he can confirm,
can confirm whether when he got in the car Wu-Tang clan was playing.
I'll say hi, James.
Would you mind giving me JK's number?
I think I'll have to check if I have...
I think I've left my smack that CD in the glado.
I just need to, just give me his address.
It's probably like weird sales tactics where they leave something behind
so they can go back and see if they make an offer.
Just give us a chance.
Just come on.
Give us a chance.
JK would be amazing there as a guest.
Also, there's so much to talk.
So much to catch up on.
I think you enjoy it.
Well, also, I think it's happening.
I'll put that out into the ether.
Like young folks say about what's such.
What's it called and what's such?
Manifesting.
That's the word.
Whoever he is.
Also, you don't have to...
Also, I would like him on the podcast from a real big...
Manifesh.
That's the one.
Also, on your time, we'll come to wherever you want us to go.
Yeah, I don't want to bring JK here.
We know.
JK doesn't have to...
Oh, RS6.
No, don't worry about that, JK.
He doesn't have to sit on our smelly sofas,
which do actually really smell.
He doesn't have to do any of that.
He just...
We can come to him.
No problems.
I think we'd be...
Speak for yourself.
Our souls are similar.
Yeah.
We share different budgets for sure.
We know Richard Porter, who himself is a music mogul.
So we have connections in the music world.
A drug fiend.
No, Richard Porter the drug fiend.
And we have...
Richard Porter, listen to this.
Hey, I don't think that's me at all.
And we have music credits, don't we?
Officially.
We do.
Officially.
On tracks at night.
On the band camp.
We...
I don't know if there's a latest Dramarokoi song,
but do we have more songs in 2026 than Dramarokoi?
Well, there is an album coming.
So I don't know if that's this year and next year.
Also, I'm your Cosmic Girl.
I'm excited for it.
I'm the cream podcast Cosmic Girl.
I explained Cosmic Girl to my girlfriend, actually,
and about the fact that that is...
Did you know?
It's about Diablo not about a woman.
Is it?
Yes.
And that's why he drives one in the beer.
Well, it was an excuse, I believe.
It's that his girlfriend at the time,
and being some sort of rock star,
I'm sure he had some unbelievable girlfriend,
basically said, is that a song about me?
Yeah.
And he went, no, no, it's actually about my Diablo,
which is fair.
At the time.
Which I think it would have been a messy third...
It was, yeah, because there were two.
One got crashed and the other one had to be filled in.
You can find out more about that story when we speak to him.
He'll tell us the story, won't he?
Yes, you can...
We'll all use this flashback.
Oh, wow, we just have J.K. on the podcast.
Anyway, next piece of noose.
Otherwise, we're going to dress Ben up as J.K.
He'll be in a hat slowly fading out.
It does slide off a cap.
Ferrari F80 from you, Benjamin, with no moustache.
Here's him, he and him, I made earlier.
Here's him with stache.
There, he has moustache.
Quite Italian, yeah.
For context, the Ferrari F80, the flag ship.
It's a little bit Welsh in there, nice.
What is one where I say 80?
F80, yeah.
Carry on.
So, anyway, this is the Ferrari F80.
Sorry, Ben, carry on.
The Ferrari F80 is there.
Is it a flag ship?
Yeah, it's there.
It's their big boy anniversary.
It's him.
It's that note.
So, there's now the big six.
Big six, I guess.
Wow, crazy.
It's the big F.
Which is not how Africa works.
They don't just add new animals each year.
Not how that works to the big five.
This is their flag ship car.
And their current design language is,
let's take a pretty okay-looking car
and just add a monobrow to it.
If you moustache.
And a lot of people don't like it.
A lot of people do like it.
But somebody in Monaco has been delivered their F80 in red.
Bride red.
JK.
Yeah, okay.
I don't know if you're going to tell me who it was.
I was going to tell you.
So, supposedly what I heard is that it was delivered with moustache.
Yes, apparently they wouldn't remove it.
And then he sent it back to Maranello, supposedly,
not to a local body shop.
So, back to Maranello afterwards, and they then unmoustached it.
They got the razor out.
And basically, they've taken this moustache off,
and it looks a million times better.
Look at that guy.
I agree to an extent, but from this angle, at glance,
it looks like a noble.
No, that's my thought.
Whereas the moustache is kind of like a defining feature of the F80.
No, that's my thought.
I think this is...
Now, I don't feel that about the M3, M4,
but it's going to be like the M3, M4 thing.
After a year or two, people go,
oh, no, that's just a recognisable Ferrari trait now.
I now know this is Ferrari.
But I don't mind it without...
But I also don't mind it with...
I think...
I was listening to Shmi talk about this somewhere,
somewhere on the internet,
where he was talking about Ferrari's design language.
And I don't know if I agree or not,
because I don't like any of...
I haven't liked modern Ferrari stuff for probably the last 10 years or so.
There's been a handful in there, if that.
But for the most part, I don't like their overall language.
But is that they always change?
Every generation, there is a...
360 F430, maybe it's a bit less.
But there is always a noticeable thing.
And they're very good at going,
now, this is it.
We know what's...
We future-proof everything.
We know that in 10, 15, 20 years,
people are going to look at that and go,
no, that was actually a good design.
Because we did something different.
The people at the moment that are not going on,
that's boring.
They're not probably the ones buying it anyway.
But in 15, 20 years, they're going,
do you know what, actually?
That is a bit like the Chris Bangalira.
BMW designs were probably at the time.
And even probably like 10 years afterwards,
everyone thought, that's ugly.
And now people look at a six series or the E60 and go,
you know what?
That's possibly one of the best BMW,
modern BMW designs.
360 Ferrari and 550 got a lot of stick when it came out.
Now, granted, going from the 355 to 360,
objectively for me, 355 is one of the best-looking
for us ever.
The 360 is not.
But it's not a bad-looking thing by any means.
It's a really lovely shape.
But it's because it's different.
But then I don't think we'll think that
about some of those BMWs.
I don't think in 10 years, I'll look back and go,
I was wrong.
I think I'll look back and go,
because they're just horrible.
That's it.
But I think it's Ferrari and not as extreme as some of that.
But I don't think that's a bad-looking car
by any stretch of the imagination.
My main gripe isn't the look,
because it's the fact that it has a V6.
Yeah.
Do you remember when I think this would have been
just around 2020?
I think we were at car throttle.
Mercedes, they were the leaked images of the new CLA and A45 AMG.
And I thought, I remember saying it in the office to you,
that's one of the worst-looking cars I've ever seen in my life.
Like, it's horrible.
And now when I see one now, I'm like,
I don't like it, but I don't dislike it.
But in comparison to the one before it,
yeah, the one before it's so dated.
An original A45 is a horrible-dated-looking thing,
like an M135i to an M140.
That's vastly improved.
Thing on the BMW grills that I always think of,
and to be fair, it's been more of an Audi thing before.
But that mid-2000s, the 2000s, basically, in 2010s,
where Audi just went,
everything's got a massive grille, Q7, the A8.
And they got...
There were some people that gave it a stick,
because they're like, why are those grills so big?
They don't need to be that big.
Like, they were considerably bigger than they'd ever been before.
But no one cares.
That's it. I love those.
That is that.
That generation of Audi is defined.
This is by that grille.
That A8 grille is massive.
But it's iconic, no.
Like, that is, to me, that is what an Audi is.
So I know that there will be plenty of cars
that we probably rinse on this podcast
that we'll look back on in 10, 15 years and go,
do you know what? It's not actually that bad.
But for the most part, most modern cars,
it's not necessarily the looks.
It's always like that.
If that had a V12 in it, that wouldn't care.
That was an evolution of what was in the...
Like, they sell a V12.
Yeah.
That's why I think it's so wrong.
You cannot have your flagship car.
I get it. It's meant to relate to the motorsport,
but there's boring.
No one cares about that.
Your flagship car doesn't have your flagship engine in it.
Yeah.
Which is wrong.
I'd really like to see someone,
a like a crashed one come up,
and someone's thinking of V12 in it.
Yeah.
It'd be so cool.
Because also, we were...
I think it was actually a Schmuse car as well.
But when we were at Donnington,
yeah, Donnington, and we saw the...
What is that called? The 12-cylinder.
Yeah.
The noise that thing makes for like a standard car as well.
Like the intake noise.
And now imagine that in a...
Crazy.
In the back and...
Yeah.
With some more spicy pipes in it.
Just love it.
Come on, Ferrari.
Look, if you want ideas, we're right here.
Hello, mate.
Hello.
Driver San Francisco is playing on the TV,
and the first time we minimized it was a Corvette.
This time, LP640.
640.
Early game with a drivable Alpha 159.
True.
There you go.
There's a completely useless fact.
Brackets, they didn't sell them.
Benjamin.
Porsche has sold their steak in a Remac Bugatti.
Right.
So, I've been thinking for the last few days,
how are we going to digest this in the podcast?
I think you're going to say how you break it to the cream
is that you're the one that bought the steak.
I wasn't meant to disclose that just yet.
But I have done that.
Yeah.
No.
So, for many years, VW Group have owned part of Bugatti.
Bugatti were invested in or bought partly by Porsche,
a subsidiary of VW Group alongside Remac,
the hypercar people, and they established Bugatti Remac.
Essentially, Remac owned the majority of this,
just a 50% of the business.
And then Porsche owned 45% or something.
Long story short, Porsche out.
Porsche have had quite a lot of money issues
because they keep making electric cars
and telling people they're making more electric cars.
And people go, I do not want this.
Porsche goes, cool, we'll be making more electric cars.
You must buy eight take-hands first.
So, because of that, I think they...
I don't know.
The speculation is that they need some money.
And also, I don't think they really want part of this.
So, they have sold their steak in Bugatti.
So, it ends their...
Porsche sell steak.
The context here, I made that exact same joke
when we were planning the podcast.
And he said he'd do it like that.
That would be a boring steak as well.
Just a flat steak.
What kind of steak would it be?
Flat iron.
Flat iron?
They put all the flavour at one end.
Season one end of it.
And then you say you'd like another,
and they bring you a slightly different, but the same one.
So, as far as I'm aware...
Rib eye, fillet, they're all the same.
Everything's the same.
This one's a vert. I've got to take the top off it.
So, as far as I'm aware,
this now means that the VW's involvement in Bugatti is now over.
Now?
It's now in Rimac and Bugatti.
I believe Porsche sold their steak to a venture capital firm.
It's not a car maker or anything.
Yes, correct.
Now, the thing I want to know is,
how will this affect the trout population?
How will this affect the parts inside?
Because, as we know, a certain man whose arms are very not weak
has found, while going through the car,
we knew that there was lots of Volkswagen Audi parts,
even in the Veyron.
They were... Ben just got that.
Even in the Veyron,
there were lots of parts that were used from vague cars.
Matt Armstrong's stuff has found that the airbags are from an A3.
This, that was at the starter motors from a 1.9 PD.
Will they have access to this now?
But they still... Because I guess...
They buy from them?
Yeah, I guess they could buy like that.
The Bugatti and Mercedes.
I don't know if there's any ownership there.
I don't think there is as far as I'm aware.
I don't think so.
Where it's just like there is a partnership where you go,
we supply your engines.
Yeah. I mean, car manufacturers have been using other parts for years.
As we found out, the Volkswagen Corrado shares mirrors with the McLaren F1,
the TVR Tuscan, the Lamborghini Diablo,
and the something else.
I can't remember what it was.
TVR Cerbera.
What fire sale going on with the Volkswagen factory or something?
They went, oh, we've made too many of these.
Roll up, roll up.
We've got mirrors.
Who wants the mirrors?
Left, right. What do you want?
We've got them all.
So it's not weird to sell parts to manufacturers to build cars,
but more so that loads of things.
Especially because it's things like, I guess in that, the Tourbillon, is it?
The...
This guy.
Lots of the parts.
Obviously, most of it's bespoke.
Lots of the main, the sort of moving mechanical bits, but airbags.
All of those little bits to where you suddenly have to go and...
I doubt they'd make it themselves, but does that then suddenly get very, very expensive?
This is my next thing I was going to say is that it's the...
Okay. So you split up.
Breakups happened.
So you and the ST1000 done.
Yeah. But I don't know much bigger scale that really threw me.
Start crying.
Who's Matthew Ramekin in that situation?
You or the ST1000?
I don't think the ST1000 is very pleased to see you go.
I think I'm Matthew Ramekin, and this is VW.
Carry on.
That's how cool you think you are.
Yeah.
He has an authority to go for you.
Well, yeah. So do you.
Yeah, great.
Let's try.
This car has already developed, right?
Or they are currently in the late stages of testing, right?
So in theory, it's got a lot of VW bits in it.
So how does that now work?
Well, that's an agreement we'll have already been put in place,
so that they will probably go throughout the life of that car,
but it's more for the development of the next ones.
That's fine. I'll just do that myself.
Okay. Cool.
So Dave, mate, knock me up some airbags from scratch.
I wonder, do you think Kearney Segg use anything from other cars?
I think they have.
But there will be lots of things that are bought from, not wholesalers,
but like from Takata, the airbag manufacturer, they will say.
Aliexpress.
That's the one, exactly.
Yeah, Christian goes, right, Aliexpress, mate.
I need 100 airbags.
And they go, minimum order a thousand.
Could be a team.
He goes, oh, for God's sake.
What's going on?
Is there a fan on that?
I left my Costco card at home.
Can I just...
What's the lead time?
And they go, five months, mate.
Straight or loose.
So I've got 10,000 track rod ends,
some sweet baby raised barbecue sauce, cookies, and some AMG engines.
And some plastic utensils for the kitchen.
That's Costco.
But I always think...
But I was...
Koenigsegg always feels like they're just making everything.
Yeah.
Obviously, we looked at that Veyron.
Obviously, Veyron's a much older car now.
But we looked at the Veyron that had like the loads of bits open.
So you could see it.
And it's full.
Even like things like track rod ends.
Track rod ends were...
I was like...
I don't know why I just would have thought it would have had its own one,
for whatever reason.
But it was just the same as what you'd get in a like an A6 or something.
From what I found, it was a Mark IV Golf track rod end,
the one that we saw.
I did a little bit of research.
There you go.
There's the Veyron there.
Obviously, a load of bits bespoke.
But yeah, it'd be interesting to see what they do with that.
I would assume they would have to supply some bits from somewhere.
Just completely like all of its parts been.
Like, yeah, no, this is just a Passat shock absorber.
Like, just chuck it in.
It'll be fine.
They won't know.
Yeah.
I mean, there's always a room about the headlights being Passat.
Yeah.
I don't think that's true.
They aren't the same.
I think some of the bases and some of the bits were taken from them.
But other than that, no.
Yeah.
The bulbs are the same, aren't they?
Yeah.
Going to Halfords.
Your car doesn't come off under Bugatti Veyron.
I just search on the Passat map, obviously.
Just an H7.
Cheers.
What's my next piece of Benjamin?
I'm hoping you've come prepared for this one.
This one says the lowest selling cars of 2026, Q1.
This feels like a big update from Ben.
Here we go.
Q1.
Now, I will preface this.
Ben's been on company's house.
I haven't.
This is in the US.
I tried to find the UK and I couldn't buy it.
What are selling cars?
So, it's the lowest selling cars and my numbers.
Okay.
So far this year.
I just thought it was interesting.
Is this for us to guess?
I'm going to give you the models and you to guess how many cars are sold.
Oh, okay.
Because I reckon already.
I reckon Alpha Julia's on there.
Big time.
This is in the US.
Yeah.
They sold them there.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Audi A8.
How many units have we sold?
In Q1.
Three months.
Eight.
Across the whole of America.
Yeah.
Whole of America.
That's been.
Eight.
600
Okay.
200 and one.
So, not a lot.
So, that's tough.
So, you know what?
My goal was eight.
So, they're smashing.
Also, across 50 states.
That's tough.
That's 40 a state.
Not very.
You also know that Wyoming is mostly cows, isn't it?
No one's doing business, are they?
No.
Famously.
No one's doing proper business anymore.
Businessmen are not existing in America.
Lexus LS.
No, I think that's actually better.
Okay.
I'm going to say that's 2000.
That is.
403.
143.
Oh, God.
Come on, man.
That's like Lexus is America.
America.
What?
Lexus is big in America.
That should be.
LS is like a big saloon.
That's a luxury exports to the US, isn't it?
A legendary.
Luxury upper-sized mid-saloon facelift today.
Fiat 500E.
Oh, no.
500E, so is single figures.
But you've got to think like there's New York as LA.
I love LA.
I love 90.
Yeah.
100 and.
68.
Also rare.
So then a garage.
500E.
Toyota Mirai, I think it's a hydrogen one.
See, now I forget that they even sold those here sometimes.
And I see one in London.
James May.
I'm going to say like 14.
They still sell them.
Yeah.
Fast three.
63.
Good job America.
Good job Toyota.
Toyota's seeing the sales points come in.
Yeah, it's 63.
That's 62 more than we thought.
That's more than all of Europe.
Yeah, one of those.
Prescott.
Audi e-tron GT.
So that's an electric Taycan competitor.
400 and 407.
Since you said that, I cannot remember the last time I saw one on the roads here.
I feel like I remember seeing a few of them.
72.
Liam, 447.
63.
Oh, God.
But also the amount of R&D that went into those cars, into the Taycan and that,
for that, that has to be one of the biggest car flops in the last 10 years.
I mean, there are two more on my list.
They're both Audi's.
Audi Q6 e-tron Sportback.
So the sort of Coupe, the weird, sleepy guy.
110.
It is nine.
It is nine.
And finally, the Audi Q4 e-tron.
So similar sort of thing, but it's an actual SUV shape, not a stupid Coupe.
17.
11.
6.
Oh, man.
But what's the meaning of the dots?
And there are ones on there that I didn't mention.
There is, there's a Toyota CHR, 13 units.
There's a Genesis GV6, 117 units.
There's a Jeep Wagon Air S, 175 units.
Most of them are electric cars.
So is that not telling you we're back?
Well, but that's, you know, that is America.
That is like walking into a, an entire festival of vegans are going,
I got sausages.
Who wants sausages?
You're not going to sell many, brother.
Porsche steak.
So it's not going to work.
You play to the dealer.
But isn't that mad?
I thought the, like the Genesis one I can't get.
I get a couple of other ones, but the, the Audi's.
That's crazy.
E-tron GT, even like a Taycan, they're not selling that well,
but they're selling more than nine.
Crazy.
63 or whatever it was.
That's wild.
Well, bad, tough times for America.
Bad days to be a battery, isn't it?
Ben, you've got a rant here.
I can't say what you've written.
Yeah, it's about the M4.
And what sort of people are on the M4?
I want to tell a story about this morning.
And for those that don't know what the M4 is?
The M4 is a major UK motorway that stretches all the way from,
around that Swansea, technically it's Port Talbot.
Yeah, no, it's, no, it's Swansea.
It's further than Swansea.
No, it's not.
It's further than Swansea because I've driven it.
It's Swansea.
It's literally been to the M4.
It's Swansea.
It's Swansea.
It's further than Swansea.
It's Swansea.
It's not.
It's Swansea.
After Swansea, you go on to the Airds.
It goes...
The M4 begin and end.
You've got your Port Talbot and you go over that bit,
that big bridge bit which you can't call.
Yeah.
Well, how about you have a look at that big whopper.
There's the M4 past Swansea.
Yeah.
That's where it ends.
It goes up onto a...
Oh, but that's not really past Swansea.
It's just past Swansea, yeah.
It's just on the M4 past Swansea.
Hold that L.
Zoom out.
Nice name row from there.
It becomes the A48 at that roundabout there.
But that is basically Swansea.
Nice try, Ben.
Yeah, that's pretty much Swansea.
Anyway, it stretches from just past Swansea
to about a mile.
Yeah, it was.
Little bit past Swansea.
All the way to the M25 in London.
Very big, big, nice way.
Just past it.
Actually, it goes into London, to be fair.
Yeah.
It is, yeah.
Great. I know nothing.
Anyway, I use this to commute to work.
Lost the time.
And...
Melvins, I've got him in the mood.
He's angry about it.
He's ready.
Actually, it was a few moments this morning.
I drove that road last Tuesday.
Okay.
Okay.
That's the end of the story.
This is my first day.
I arrived at work and it was done.
No, I got stuck in...
I got the sign saying hour delay.
Delay, delay.
It's half delay.
Do you want to know what the delay was?
What was it?
I sat there for an hour.
Okay.
What's something to get to work?
Probably half 10, 11 o'clock?
Yeah.
No, you were late.
Do you want to know what the delay was?
We moved from three lanes to two.
You can't...
Nobody could have predicted that.
We're talking standstill traffic.
Ben, I don't think you understand.
There are things you can predict
and there are things you can't.
I mean, listen, it was a tough one.
What was it for?
Why did you go to two?
Was it just random?
Because it was a character building exercise?
Off of Junction 13, Newbury.
Hello, mate.
Is that the one?
What about that?
Is that Junction 13?
Sure, why not?
Slip road was closed.
You couldn't get off there.
I believe there was a car fire,
not anymore, but had happened.
I think they had to do emergency,
redo the road at Slip Road.
Wow.
They've redid the road.
Like, because it looked pretty mashed up.
Anyway.
Crazy.
So, fine.
But you're going from three lanes to two.
There was an hour's worth of delay for that.
Anyway, so I was pretty annoyed then.
This morning, we're six days later.
Sorry, may I interrupt quickly?
Please.
When it came time to go from three lanes to two,
where were you in that lane?
So, were you merged in turn?
We were actually merging to the Slough lane,
or the inside lane.
Correct.
The inside lane was the one that was shut.
Right.
But that lane was moving the quickest.
Okay.
So, where were you?
You were in the far left and you merged in turn.
Yes.
And did you manage to merge into the next lane
without causing a 74 car pile up?
So, what I did was I waited for the obstacle to appear.
Right.
And then I merged away from it.
Okay.
Then the person in front that you went behind of,
he didn't crash.
No.
And then the one behind you that let you in,
he didn't crash.
That's amazing.
And do you know what the system that worked really well was?
It's that one car let one car in.
Oh, and then the next one went.
So, you let your guy in and then your guy behind you lets the guy in.
I think it's much safer just to get in line three miles.
I was thinking maybe about why I got to sort of chipping them.
Yeah.
I was going to start merging in.
You should, yes.
I should really get in line.
And then when the normal people, but for this exercise,
we'll call them the idiots who are driving the other lane,
try and come in.
You don't let them in.
No.
You're just going to keep sailing past it.
I don't want us to move smoothly.
No.
I actually quite like being stopped actually.
It gives me time to think about nothing.
Or I'm going to let seven people at once go.
I'm going to stop my lane.
Yes.
We're just going to let them all flow.
Yeah.
And that's it.
But to the point where then now I can't ever continue,
because now they're taking advantage of me.
Yeah.
You know, yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways, that happened anyway.
Annoying.
This morning, I'm having a lovely morning.
Sure.
The sun was shining.
I've got my sunglasses on.
I'm listening to some good tunes.
Jamerica perhaps.
Wasn't.
But some good tunes.
Um, uh, Craig David.
No, what did we say?
Wasn't Craig David.
Pia Pafitis.
I know who was it.
Pia Pafitis doesn't make music.
What's he called?
Um, bloody...
Rick Astley.
No.
Oh, Peter Andre.
Oh, yeah, Peter Andre.
Yeah, he does that.
Yeah, there you go.
So, I'll listen to Peter Andre driving along.
Yeah.
Actually wasn't.
Um, and suddenly, I get, actually, I get to a very similar location.
It's between memory services and junction 13.
I was like, no.
It's what new real do to a man.
Not like this again.
I'm not doing this again.
And we start slow down.
Not Stanisdale, but we're, we're crawling.
Yeah.
I was like, okay, it must be a big thing.
So you're outside the car crawling.
Rolling around the floor.
I was like, okay, maybe there's another issue.
Okay, what's happened here?
What happened?
What's happened?
What's happened?
Is it, is it that the road has to be redone again?
Nope.
Um, on the other side of the road.
Yeah.
There was quite a bad crash.
Oh, okay.
Quite a bad crash.
And you must stop.
Um, and I'm talking, we slowed down to a stop on my side of the road.
Great.
Because people were looking.
No, of course.
Well, they have to because.
I'm not even talking, there was nothing.
Well, not a thing.
Are you that could bleep this?
Are you in your head?
What is wrong with you?
Do you know what?
You went from 70 miles an hour down to.
Five miles an hour to watch a man in having a fatal car crash.
Now, what you don't know is that everyone in front of you is a local journalist.
And they get, they have to get their story.
Or a paramedic.
Yeah, they're all, they're all there.
You know, they have to do their job.
I was, I was baffled.
I drove past and there was not a single, not a single thing on our side of the road.
They had just stopped.
Yeah.
And we're talking three lanes of gridlock traffic because of you.
You should take your car and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
Show it in a perfectly safe car park.
And then don't touch it anymore.
Don't ever go near it.
No, that's, that is, I think is my biggest pet peeve.
It's, it comes just in.
Well, no, not just in front.
A far, far in front of people that do not merge at speed on the motorway.
But you're, I wish you nothing but the worst.
I'd like to suggest a new technology to add to gantries.
Now it means that people don't get punished in between gantries,
but it's a bit like a speed camera.
But you're not getting away from this one because it knows there's other cameras.
Just trust me.
They all speak to each other.
They all speak and there's people on, there's people around.
It's a user based system.
You can report people for it.
Instead of a speed camera, it, it's a clown camera.
No, it's a gun.
Okay.
Well, that is something, you know, that exists.
What?
We're just guns.
Yellow guns exist, but we've never seen them on gantries before.
Okay.
But there'd be one, I'm not killing anyone.
I don't want to kill anyone.
It'd be like a warning shot.
Like a bird.
But it's like, oh Jesus.
Yeah.
Like I'm not, don't want to burst any tires.
I don't know.
So that, that would cause delays.
Yeah, that would.
But it'd be like, if you've been a melt,
if you've slowed down or something like that,
or you're in the middle lane, or you're doing,
even if you're a sturdy driver, perhaps.
Right.
Just a warning shot.
Okay.
All right.
Maybe we'll start with paintballs.
Paintballs would be good.
Paintballs would be good.
Can't go over the windscreen.
That would be tough.
That would be, you know.
Just imagine, like you're being a bit of a bell ending,
and then just a bullet hole in the back window.
Now, what I like, how about this?
Gantries, as we have them right now,
they have information in the UK,
displayed up on the earth, you know, 60, 50.
What I would like is name and shame.
Okay.
I want their number plate,
and then just some form of derogatory term.
Okay.
And their address.
So it would just say, S200BNN, Whopper.
And so, so everyone going down the road,
you all, you're in your group together.
You will see, right, that's that,
that's that clown that's been messing around.
If you, if you try and tell that driver,
you're being a penis, they go, yeah, yeah.
If the government,
if there's government mandated ridiculing,
everyone around goes, see?
You could make it like ways,
like where, you know, you can report
the road has fallen away.
Bad driver.
As you've done, or, and you just go bad driver,
and it just, I don't know how it works with like,
like typing in a number plate while driving.
Tough, yeah.
Not ideal.
Maybe it's hooked up to an external camera system.
We've all got NPR.
It once got a dash cam.
But punishment will come to these people.
And it will be swift.
Yeah.
And it, it looks, you won't get away.
You're not getting away with it for long.
Unlike your driving, it will be swift.
If you stop and look, you're a bad person.
Yeah.
I heard.
Bad person.
Because you're ruining everyone else's day.
And, and so what?
So you can look at a dying human being on the side of the road.
What is wrong with you?
You're always dying.
You're shellfish.
That look, I didn't see.
Oh, well, there you go.
Yeah.
Interesting.
The entire other side of the road.
They almost, they caught himself.
Almost gave himself away there.
No, what we'll say is I went past.
Everyone else has to stay down.
As I went past.
I might as well have a look.
Why not?
It was, it was so bad.
While you're in there.
That as I went past and we suddenly spread up again to 70 miles an hour,
I looked to the other side of the road and they were going in the same direction as me.
Oh, that's not great.
That's not how the motorway works.
But it was so bad that the police had gone.
Okay, this road is shut for hours.
That's a tough one.
Turn around and line up and we're going to take you with them that way.
So that's not great.
That's a bad crash.
I don't know what happened, but why are you slowing down to look at that?
What is wrong with you?
Just go to work.
Yeah, it's a bit.
It's not really nice, is it?
No, no.
We're not the zoo here, guys.
Oh, look, dead people.
Great.
What are you?
Morbids.
Jesus Christ.
Just go to work.
Oh, Monday morning, 8 a.m.
I can't have a look at that.
Discuss that.
Oh, do you know why I saw on the way in?
Dead people.
That was amazing.
We enjoyed that.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Just make your way to work and stop being a silly sausage.
There was an alpha 1, 5, 9 on the screen.
Was there?
Is that about mountain bikes?
That is actually about the hurricane that we talked about a week or two ago.
At this point, a lot of people were quick to comment that the reason,
the part of the reason it has such high mileage is because it is used for
organ donor and blood transplants.
So, it races around literally getting yo again.
Yo move.
I've got to get heart to this old man flashing lights.
Also, just kind of mobbid as, again, where you go, is it the organ donor?
There you go. Okay. So, it's a bit sad.
Like, you know, it's a rush.
Something serious is going on.
But he goes, that does mean I can take the hurricane, doesn't it?
Well, someone, he's just banging gears with a smile on his face.
He gets there.
They go, where's the heart?
You've left that.
You've left that back at the other hospital.
He goes, oh, I have to go back.
Pop back quickly.
Oh, I don't know.
Like, where do they, it must be in the front.
Oh, God.
They must be cooled or something.
Crazy.
It must be some sort of icebox in the front.
That must be specially adapted for that.
But that's cool.
I really like that.
I'd like to see it.
Sorry.
That was Ben sipping water in the background.
Crazy noise.
Like some kind of little water feature.
Drinks advert.
Was that loud?
Very loud.
Was it loud?
I think everyone heard it.
Right.
Before we get into a little game that will end up,
um, the penultimate feature of this podcast
will be a want of the week.
Now, Ben, you put this in.
So, I'm going to assume you've got something lined up.
I already said it.
Oh, you already said it.
It was a TTVR6.
That's why I put it in there.
I was looking at them the other night.
Okay, lovely.
Mark 1 TTVR6 or TT whatever the hell it is.
Now, did we talk?
We didn't talk about much.
Oh, talking is a hard thing for me.
Edwin struggles.
Um, at Shedford, at Food and Fuel,
you saw the C6 Corvette again.
Did it really like that feeling?
Because that's basically every time we do a want of the week.
That's what you're saying.
It's, it's just the best.
I had a, a childlike reaction to it.
Patrick filmed.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, first one.
Um, no, I got, I got, I, yeah.
Yeah, I felt like that.
You got, yeah.
But so you saw it, you know, I was there.
I was there when you felt it.
There was a, I think there was a reel that Patrick posted of,
of my reaction to it and it is, it is.
So you could see yourself in one of those.
Now, William, you're coming off the back of a full, uh, off the, so sorry.
You're high, uh, on the, the Mercilago, but surely there's still,
there's still got to be something deep in there.
No, of course there are still itches to be scratched and what such.
A recent flame that has been reignited.
That's always been there to be fair, uh, is the, is a Cleo trophy because I've
caught wind of the fact that Alex might want to get rid of his.
And it needs a few little bits and it could be had for a barge on.
Um, and I just think that's a really cool car.
The problem is it is basically getting on for 10 grand.
Yeah.
For, for a Cleo, but it's never going to lose any value.
And it's the only way to get one in that color.
And they've got the cool wing and I just think they're so, so cool.
Do you see 10 grand?
I don't think that one necessarily is worth that, but it could be basically.
It needs like, there's things that have those special sac dampers.
They need rebuilding that can cost up to a thousand pounds, basically.
Belts, as you're aware, could cost a thousand pounds.
And I don't know if I want to ever do it ever again on a Renault.
But they're just very, very cool.
But again, is it, is it just better to take your 89
please, Benjamin, for the listeners.
I'm trying to go as far away from the mic as possible.
Stop it.
We're like 15 minutes away from the end of the podcast.
All we have to do is wait.
Absolutely.
Brother, just suckling water.
I'm so thirsty.
Um, sorry, please carry on with the thought before.
Let's say that's, let's call it nine grand, eight grand.
Something like that is like, you could really build a lovely Cleo for that money.
Oh, yeah.
Like, like nice.
But I think actually I'm right.
I'm coming away, I'm coming away from having like a track car type Cleo
and just having it relatively standard couple of noise mods
and just using it as a road car.
So I think I've missed out on doing that on both my recent ones.
Yeah.
The yellow car was kind of getting towards that,
but it didn't have backseat.
So I just want, I need a Cleo that I can feel content with.
And it drives nicely.
And I used it.
And also it's, it's, I know it's not going to tank in value.
At the same time, I know you and you'll buy it like that.
You'll go, keep it stock.
And then you'll go, let me just try a little wheel.
Because I like seeing my blue car at the event.
And I do like that colour, the racing blue, but a trophy's just got,
it's got that extra and, you know, Junus Saipa, as they say, they tried.
We'll do a proper talk about it at some point.
But for Cleo Trophy is the cheat code for getting respect in the car community.
At Mr. Scramble, there was, I think it was bring a trailer UK had launched.
And they had a sea of exotic cars, 550 Barquetta.
There was all sorts of spicy things around.
Meanwhile, a Cleo Trophy sat in the middle.
Everyone taking photos of it.
Everyone talking about the car.
That's a Renault Cleo.
If you pull up in a normal 182, no one cares.
You know, Heath Ledger style.
But say Cleo Trophy and everyone loses their mind.
What a little old Cleo.
But it's so weird that everyone goes, oh trophy.
Yeah, trophy.
It's a bloody set of dampers and some seats, man.
Yeah. No, it's realistically now.
Like, and also the dampers, they're good, but better.
There are better dampers now.
Like it's not, but it's, it's the, the provenance of the thing.
It's, it's the heritage and whatever else.
And it's, it is a lot of it is seen points, isn't it?
Exactly.
If I turn up to that, compared to turning up in a silver Cleo,
more people are going to want to talk about that.
100 for that one.
Yeah.
But that's, that's definitely on the list.
But I just don't know where Cleo fits in what I have.
I have the McGann, which if I make the McGann more track car,
this makes sense as that.
But I feel like one hatchback is enough really.
It needs, whatever the, if there was to be something else that is added,
I think it would need to be rear wheel drive and possibly a V8.
Well, and what, and what does that actually really, really tickles my pickle?
Yum.
But a state car, a state in particular, a state wackadiff in it.
As daily.
Yeah.
If I had the 159, the 159, I think, because of how much it costs me.
And again, that car is just going great.
I'm just going to keep on using it.
And even if I do eventually buy something, maybe a bit cooler,
I'll probably choose the 159 most of the time because it's cheap to run
and it doesn't owe me anything, basically.
It is, that car is proper bangonomics.
We won't get into the price that you will see that video.
That video should be out by now.
It's out.
It should be out.
So you'll know how cheap that car was.
So if anyone wants a real rough looking after 159,
the black car that's sat in the pit right now.
It's tough.
It's on some odd, odd size tires right now.
It looks, it looks haggard at the moment.
But yeah, my one of the week would be a trophy or a, oh, okay.
Here we go, sports fans.
No, I can't have multiple.
Well, you can.
I can.
Give us a quick one.
A Focus RS Mark 1 still.
They still, I keep getting, I now keep getting sent them.
I feel like I now have just many to pick from.
You've spoken into existence.
Someone sent me one for 10 grand the other day that had,
I think it was a little bit rusty underneath and needed belts and whatever else.
And there's one going, there's just some that go through auction at the moment.
It's one, I think, coming up at iconic.
It's like super low miles, estimates like 50k.
But I don't want any of that.
No, I want usable.
I want, I want a rude boy.
Yeah.
Bod modified one that's got four inch horsepower.
You want, I want, but just to look because they look good like that.
But just when they're a little bit lower and they've got,
they just look angry.
I want a Mark 1 Focus RS that whenever you take a video of it,
it automatically has a Snapchat caption over the top of it.
That's things wicked fast.
Also, you know, it has some sort of scumbag caption.
But that's, I think, yeah, the, the, the, the third,
because I'm at three down to, down to three cars now.
But that fourth slot would, I think, would have to be something.
Your, your big boy, three cars.
I am big boy, three cars.
And the, and the, the, the pricing is, it's quite widespread.
We have everything from a 600 pound Alfa Romeo to the
Lamborghini Merci Lago at redacted price that you can see on mine.
Crazy.
Mine is, you go to this scramble.
What are you seeing?
You're seeing Porsches.
Yep.
But more importantly, I'm seeing the sadness himself.
I'm just seeing Lancia Lancia.
There he is.
And you know what?
It never gets any easier.
It actually doesn't.
That car will forever be the car that got away from renting.
If, if you haven't listened to earlier episodes, I, back when I was about 19,
a friend of mine wants to make like a, buy an investment car from Japan,
do it up in UK and sell it.
I said, you pay the money, I'll do the doing up.
And we imported a Delta Evo two in Lord blue from Japan.
And I absolutely fell in love with it.
It was, it's the coolest, it's the coolest hatchback on earth for me.
And I watch, I wake up every day and I go and look at the prices of them.
And I watch them drifting further into the ether, into the absolute.
You never know them.
Maybe there'll be a crash one though.
Yeah.
And then, you know, well, Ben keeps pumping the numbers on them.
He's buying them all.
So I would just love a Delta Evo two.
It's something.
It is.
We talked about it before that the, like the mercy logo and the Glado
are only achievable by finance, by leveraging money.
And the only reason I haven't done that yet is because I like to modify cars
and you buy a car at a certain value, like the mercy logo makes perfect sense.
There's not much to do to it.
I want to buy a Delta and I want to forge it and I want it to make city power
and I want to make city bluff noises.
You do that.
You buy Delta at call it 70, what they're trading at now.
You do all those mods.
It's probably worth about 50 now.
You put another 20, 30 grind into it, but it's worth less than you started,
which is why I can't do that.
And I don't think I keep, I look at them over and over and I'm like,
could I commit to financing one of those and not touch it?
I don't think I could not modify it.
Because also standards, obviously you had driven your one completely standard,
but I would imagine that not disappointing, but it's always like that.
When cars get to that age, they're no longer kind of in their heyday.
There's you've driven much faster stuff since or much more impressive stuff since
that suddenly a car that's got like 200 to 220 horsepower,
that isn't some like singing four-cylinder NA engine that's screaming.
It feels a little bit disappointing.
Yeah, it did feel, it did still feel quite impressive for what it was,
but I know me and I know I go, be cool with 400.
Yeah.
Oh, it would be cool if I did this, which is why I would struggle to not.
And it's the same reason the other, the other option,
which I'll put the other once a week is, is 550.
Obviously we talk about it most weeks.
That same thing at Bista, I was not that I've been having second thoughts,
but I've been thinking a 599 is a bigger car.
It's a cooler car.
It's a, it's a more like a 599 and a Mercedes logo go together in terms of like competition,
but a 550 doesn't really 550 is a grand touring car.
I would, I looked around a 599 at Bista and I was like, I do like that.
I love 599.
They're so cool.
And then there happened to just be a silver 550 tucked away in the corner.
I looked at it and I was like, no, that's my guy.
By far that's my guy.
You'd have a 599.
Well, I guess you could have a, a brief affair with a 599 possibly,
but again, I'd want, I don't think I would want to do as much to a 599.
I think that's something I could own as it is and then go, cool, I'm done.
Whereas the 550, that's the forever car for me.
That's the, I buy it.
I put it on silly wheels.
I do ITBs.
I do standalone ECU.
I do, I do everything too.
So again, not something I can really finance.
So there's one iconic auctioneers coming up, which is nice back as well.
Really good spec.
Tour de France blue.
I have a Coyo leather, which is my perfect spec.
But again, and it's 60,000 miles, so it's not low mileage car.
But then again, I would, let's say like go out and get finance to get it and then go,
I'm going to destroy the price of this now.
What would you, let's say, would you buy that?
Obviously you have that vision of what you want to do with the 550,
but would you perhaps like get one, let's say it's finance, however you want to do it
and just use it as it is.
You do like, because you can still do a little mod of it.
Exhaust a little bit and just use it as it is.
But until a project one came up and then, because you've got that car that you're not
going to lose any money on anyway.
You might even make some money on it.
Get rid of that one and then go and pick up a,
like let's say the perfect project one comes up.
Old Jezza picks up the phone and goes,
Hello mate.
Edwin, it's time.
We're back on.
It's time.
It would probably be the day you buy that.
It was, yeah.
Oh, by the way, it's available for 10 grand, by the way.
You just need to come and get it.
But does that tickle you?
No, not to a 550, because when I drove it,
this sounds really not ungrateful, but I could see everything that was wrong with it,
if that makes sense, but I could see a path to making it good.
I was like, right, a little bit better on the suspension.
I'd be great.
A little bit better on the throttle response, the ITBs and the sound, that would be great.
I couldn't own one and not do things to it.
I'm sure I could on like maybe a 355 or a 599, but I also,
I want the 550 that I buy to feel special.
I don't want it to be undermined by having a previous one and be like,
I don't want that car to ever feel like, that's just the 550.
I want that to be like, that's the 550.
That's the one that I did it.
I got it and now it's fixed working.
So I would, because like you said the other week,
it feels like you're not that on it.
I'm not that on it because there isn't a car yet that's presented itself.
When it does, it'll be go time.
It'll be big time go mode, but also that the prices are only going one way.
They are going up.
I say they are still expensive.
I think the estimate on that one you're talking about was what 70 to 80.
Yeah, which I think which is a lot of money, but in the realm of a V12 front engine Ferrari
with a manual gearbox that hasn't got any hybrid stuff.
It hasn't got anything like that.
It's that's a proper Ferrari.
You've got to look at back at them in 10 years and go,
how hell wasn't everyone buying those?
Yeah, exactly.
No, it will happen.
It will happen.
I give you my word.
God wills it.
So Jeremy, mate, come on now.
Jeremy.
You know what?
It's I've come to terms.
Get some credit on your phone, mate.
Jeremy, it's not happening with Jeremy.
We will have to look, you know what?
We've had a good run, Jeremy and I.
There are some other potentials.
I think it's time for us to see other people.
Yeah, if you haven't come running back at some point, maybe we'll make it work.
This is a tactic.
He'll realise what he's missed.
You don't need him, mate.
You don't need him.
Ben's breaking up with the S2000.
He can't hurt you anymore.
I'm breaking up with Jeremy.
Shall we finish on a Wii game?
Yes, let's do it.
This is a game I've crafted from something on the Instagram or TikTok or other.
You've stolen it.
I've stolen it, basically.
But it wasn't a game to them.
But it will be a game to us.
I would like us to create the worst car ever.
But we've got six categories, basically.
And we've put a car in each category
that together would make the worst possible car.
Lovely.
So I think we'll all make our own choices.
Okay, yeah.
So we all have our own one.
Would you like to start, TSR?
Let's start.
Hey, can you kill me?
Someone found a 9Ti with twin pipes as well, so.
It could be a 1750.
Sorry, that isn't on the screen for the audio listeners.
Anyhow, engine.
The worst possible engine.
So this is just a worst car.
The worst is your own.
So yeah, please, whatever.
You take it away from me.
I was thinking like some sort of like non-turbo diesel or tough, but a van.
I'm going to throw it back.
I'm going to throw something out there because I've got engine and gearbox separate.
I'm going to put an S85 V10.
Do you know what?
I was thinking the exact same thing.
What?
Because, no, because.
I think if I combine that with some things later on, it's not bad that the engine's good,
but if you can't use it or do it properly, then it's mashed.
So that's my engine.
Okay.
So the BMW V10 from the early 2000s.
That's my engine.
What was your engine?
So I was going to go down the same line, but for just having to deal with it,
it never really warms up having that sort of deal.
I'm going to go with a Beetle engine.
So just a flat four.
Because I was thinking we go smaller, something like a Fiat 500,
but there's some soul to it.
There's some feeling to that.
However, a Beetle flat four, I have one as my first car,
just so incredibly dull and the clatter, it makes you want a diesel.
Yeah.
It would be horrible.
Ben?
I'm going for some sort of modern NA 3-cylinder, just where you can't move.
But great noise though.
Not really.
No.
You know what would be good is an F20C, like an S2000 engine,
that paired with something that does not let you use that car.
But this is onto the next bit.
Okay.
I decided to split up engine and gearbox for this reason alone,
is that my gearbox, mated to my S85 V10, will be the three-speed auto from our Hadlock.
Oh, God.
Because it will just be, you will never, ever get the engine.
It will make a great noise sometimes, of course,
so that there is some positives here.
Maybe it's not quite the worst, but how frustrating would that be?
No, I've got that engine, but all I've got is three-speed.
I can't change gears myself.
There is none of that.
There's no downshift.
Anything.
Well, mine's related.
I'm going to go with the Koenigsegg direct drive.
So it's just, it's Volkswagen Beetle clatter forever.
It's just eternal clatter.
That's all it will do.
Gearbox for your engine.
I'm going DCT.
Okay.
But in my, my slow, because there's been constantly changing gear.
Oh, I was confused.
I was like, why would you put a DCT with an S85?
That's not yours.
No, well, it'll be good.
No, it's going to be a, it's going to be like 48 horsepower in line three,
NA, and it's going to, it needs to talk.
So it's constantly changing gears.
So you're just like, have that, that.
I like the sound of, Ben's car sounds great.
I never go in that.
Just coming into a roundabout and going from seventh to second.
And then the second you put your foot down, it's going to,
it's going to, it will downshift like five years.
How many, so DCT, seven speed DCT is what you're going for?
I'm going to go for, you've got a nice cruising speed.
No, I'm going for a 10 speed DCT.
A 10 speed.
Okay.
Is that, I don't know.
Like what is it?
I'll take it.
You'll take it.
You're making that.
That's sort of Ford auto, body type thing.
Next up is interior.
Okay.
Now this is, it's going to be, it feels American would be right.
What's the, is there body style first?
Body style is, is the next one.
We can start with body style.
Can we do, can we do body style first?
Let's start with body style.
That relates to the interior.
So exterior.
So like your visuals.
Okay.
What do you, you starting?
Let's think.
I'm going, I'm going big two and a half ton SUV coupe.
I was immediately rough.
Oh rough.
I was immediately thinking like Chevrolet SSR, PT cruiser.
That's tough.
Multipller.
I don't mind so much actually.
I don't, I think that's a much maligned automobile.
Crazy.
The multiplier.
Because it has, there is reason.
Right.
It doesn't need to be that ugly bit anyway.
But PT cruiser, I think is up there.
A PT cruiser with an SA5.
I'm going.
And three speed.
Multipller.
NDMX5 Fiat 124 style shape.
So small sports car.
So subtle S2000 actually is probably a little bit bigger,
mid-sized sports car.
So that your brain looks at it and goes, fantastic.
That is going to be a driving experience.
And then you get in and it goes
nice just somewhere, some sort
up. There's a three on the tree. So interior next, interior next. Again, I'm thinking America,
America's getting a lot of flak here. I'm going like some sort of GMC from the 90s, but with that
weird GMT 800, but with the material will be like, it's you know, crushed velvet, but without the
shine. Oh, sorry. Wait, crushed velvet, you're going for luck or more of a lucker.
A loxo barge from there. Like a valour. Yeah. Yeah. But maybe a corduroy in there, but a bad
corduroy. Colours. All kinds of brown. Okay. But you won't know whether it originally was beige
or brown. Tough. That's a tough one. And then all of the, and then we're just talking black plastic
dashboard, four spoke steering wheel. Oh, awful. I quite like the idea. I don't know how I'd adapt
this into a PT cruiser. So again, this is, there's a lot of imagination taking place here.
But the interior of the micro car, I haven't been in many interiors that have felt quite as
shit as that. And I know that there's, again, there's a reason that it's cheap. It's a small,
tiny car, but it does feel like being in a wheelie bin. It is awful. But like that,
that level of build quality on the interior, really unpleasant. Mine's similar. I'm going 80s
British Leyland 70s, 80 probably more 70s actually, because I want, I want like wood veneer that's
just chipping away, kind of just, just lazily put on, put together lots of horrible kind of like
chrome finishes and trims around things, things that just have no place in anything. And then a,
one of those steering wheels that's quite thin, thin like a almost like, you know, ivory, they
have like that kind of piano black style steering wheel, very thin, you know, so you can
saw it at the wheel, but it has one of those chrome trim horns around the center, the very 70s
looking again, completely mismatching the exterior. So you go, you go to the car and you're like,
it's going to be great. Get in, you go, what am I in time? What is this steering wheel?
Why can't I get my knees under the steering wheel? Why is it so large? I think what I'm doing is
inadvertently building a beach buggy. Yeah, pretty much. That might be what I'm doing. Yes.
That just looks a bit more modern. Yeah. For the next category, we have reliability. Now,
I'm aware that can be tied in with the engine in the gearbox, but take your engine and just say
that that's it. It will run forever, but you add in a little bit of your reliability comes from
elsewhere. Well, mine would be quite reliable. No, but you can choose. That's what I mean,
the NA three cylinder. No, but it doesn't have to do that. So for instance, for me,
I'm going to take my reliability inspiration from 80s Italian, where the wiring and the
electrics are kind of a suggestion. They're at some point, they were going to work.
They did work maybe, but now it's up to you. So you're just left with kind of random electrical
faults that don't seem to start or end anywhere. They just prevent you from doing anything.
I was thinking sort of 80s, 90s TVR in terms of like, just who knows how that's built.
Unlabeled. No one knows what that is. Just kind of laid on the floor.
When we took the dash out of that, I don't, you can't build cars like that.
No, professionally. They can't do that. They can't anymore.
They can't keep getting away with this. They literally didn't.
And they didn't. I did think about that, but and then I was reminded of our dear friend,
Rory McKay, and I thought an N14 Mini has just the amount of frustration required.
So it's just doing, it's doing nothing ever seems to be the same. Like one minute,
it's a cool issue. The next minute, it's a head gap issue.
And also, combine that with the fact that I'm running an S85 for your 10th.
Tough. So S85, I'm not, you know, it's actually, it's relatively reliable. It's little bits and
bobs here and there, but if it was like oil pumps failed.
Gone. Next day, it's gone. You know, and then you go, I'll put a new engine in it.
Dead. Next week. Unfortunately, that one's dead too.
Another 5, 10 grand. Off you go.
That's rough. That little combo, I think, is nice.
Mine's an inline three with DCT. Right.
And A. So it's going to be, people are going to look at it and go, that's reliable.
And they get that. But I'm taking my reliability from Jag.
Oh, so yours just over complicated.
Yeah. Over complicated. And then you would expect it to work because it looks like it would work.
And it just doesn't. Okay. Yeah.
Just constantly like little sensors dying.
Just everything. Just things going wrong.
Nothing on the internet about why.
Yeah. Really frustrating.
You have to pull up an auto every four minutes to try and work out anything that's going on.
Exactly. But it's paired with DCT and an inline three, which is quite reliable.
Do you know what that's? I think that's a good one.
I think you've gone quite well there.
Running costs is the final one. So that again, don't worry about what engine you've got.
You've just got, right, I want the running cost. So that's how much it's going to cost
on fuel. How much is it going to cost to ensure?
How much is it possibly going to cost to buy? That sort of thing.
I was thinking like to make it really bad. It's a little bit unrealistic.
Like you could just go for like a sheer on 40 grand tires every time you go straight up the
back. Like you're spending 80 grand a service because that really would make that PT Cruiser
with the Vita. Like you'd really no one wants this at all.
Now, I know what I'm going to do.
You think about the Saw movies, right? The only reason anyone participates in the traps
is because of a promise, the promise of freedom. So my cost to run, that cheap.
Easy to run, right? Cost you nothing. So that people go, is it worth it?
Do I deal with all of these other issues? Because this car is like the Lupo 3L.
It's a Lupo 3L to run. It cost me like 30 quid to fill up.
Everything works. So that there's just thousands, hundreds of thousands of people
subjecting themselves to my horrible car, just clattering around in a direct drive lead
legend surrounded by 70s British Leyland. Lovely. Perfect. Down to the last detail.
Mine's going to be completely mediocre across the board. Frustratingly so. Kind of X5 in
nature. It's not that bad, but it's also like 25 to 30.
Every now and then you go, God's sake. The tax is £430 a year. So it's not like,
oh, I can't buy the car, but it's also like, oh, it could be cheaper. Parts hard to fit,
quite cheap. Cheap enough where you think, oh, that's fine. It will break.
And also so that people go, I'll DIY this. I'll do this myself.
Why would I do that? Then they delve into that DCT and go, what the f...
And hard to get parts and the parts centers are always closed one day of the week.
Oh, like Audi spec where they just go cast three and a bit years old now. No more parts.
And when you try and get through to the parts people at the dealership, can't.
No pickup. Great.
It's just called reception.
We don't make that part. You rely simply on Autodoc.
Yeah, exactly.
And you've got to wait two weeks for every part to arrive.
I was thinking of the RS6 as well, going with RS6 running costs.
That's tough.
Going, oh, brakes, £2,000.
Engine out everything.
Everything is engine out. Your tax is the max. You don't get any... Your fuel economy is
absolutely destroyed. I think I will run with the RS6. I was thinking that Bentley Continental,
any Bentley, any sort of... Begatti's a little bit, you know, a bit extreme.
I want some people to buy it. I want some people to experience the horror of the
S85-equipped PT Cruiser.
Right. That's quite nice. I would like the Cremors to let us know down in the comments,
which is the worst car, which is the car you would like to own the least.
Benjamin's three-cylinder SUV that has DCT, William's S85-powered PT Cruiser-shaped
horrible thing, or my Volkswagen Beetle with direct drive in the shape of an S2000.
Thank you very much for listening to this week's episode of The Creme Podcast.
We will be back next week, as always. As always, Creme, get the money.
About this episode
The hosts bounce between car-sale stories, auction logistics, and a long stretch of used-car chat. A yellow Lamborghini Gallardo sold through DK Engineering leads to the surprise that Jay Kay of Jamiroquai bought it, before the conversation shifts to an S2000 that’s heading out because it doesn’t quite feel right. From there they dig into buying choices, engine sound, reliability, running costs, and a few dream picks like the Audi TT RS, Golf R32, and SLK55 AMG.
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60,000 miles
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auction
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back box
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belts
Acura Integra
Alfa Romeo 147
Alfa Romeo GT
Aston Martin V12 Vantage
Audi A8
Audi e-tron GT
Audi Q4 e-tron
Audi Q6 e-tron
Audi Q7
Audi RS 3
Audi RS4
Audi RS 6
Audi TT
Audi TT RS
Audi TTS
Bentley Continental
BMW 1 Series
BMW 3 Series
BMW 5 Series
BMW M3
BMW Neue Klasse
BMW X5
Bugatti Veyron
Cadillac Lyriq
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet SSR
Chrysler PT Cruiser
Ferrari 360
Ferrari 550 Barchetta Pininfarina
Ferrari 812 Superfast
Ferrari F430
Ferrari F80
Fiat 124 GT Abarth
Fiat 500
Fiat 500e
Ford Focus
Ford Mustang Mach-E
Honda HR-V
Honda Integra
Honda S2000
Hyundai Genesis
Lamborghini Diablo
Lamborghini Gallardo
Lancia Delta
Lexus LFA
McLaren F1
Mercedes-Benz CLA (C117)
Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
Nissan GT-R
Nissan Skyline
Porsche 911
Porsche Carrera GT
Porsche Taycan
Renault Clio
Toyota C-HR
Toyota Mirai
TVR Cerbera
TVR Tuscan
Volkswagen Beetle
Volkswagen Corrado
Volkswagen Golf
Volkswagen Lupo
Volkswagen Passat
Volkswagen R32
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