The alternator pulley is the wheel on the alternator that the belt runs around. If it’s worn out, it can make annoying noises, and replacing it can quiet things down.
TDI is a type of diesel engine used by Volkswagen. It uses a turbo to help it make power, and diesel engines can sound a bit different—sometimes even “rattly” if something in the setup isn’t right.
The drive belt system is the belt-and-pulley setup that powers things on the engine. If you replace parts there and the noise gets better, it usually means the problem was in the belt or pulleys, not the whole engine.
The Ford Fiesta ST is a sporty version of the Fiesta, made to be more fun to drive. In this episode it’s Ben’s backup car for a trip to the Nürburgring.
The Nürburgring is a very famous race track in Germany. It’s known for being long and challenging, so driving there is a serious test of both the car and the driver.
A Fiesta ST is a sportier, faster version of the Ford Fiesta. It’s the kind of small “hot hatch” people buy for fun driving, not just commuting. Here, they’re talking about one they found to buy.
“On track” means the car has been driven on a race circuit. That kind of driving is harder on parts than normal commuting, especially tires and brakes. They’re discussing whether this car has seen that kind of use.
A vehicle history report is a document that checks a used car’s past using records from databases. It can reveal problems like accident repairs or whether parts were replaced. They used it to find rear damage on the car they bought.
Rear damage means the back of the car was hit at some point and may have been repaired. Even if it looks okay, repairs can sometimes affect how the car tracks or handles. They’re using it to explain what they found on the car.
“Written off” means the car was considered too badly damaged to be worth repairing, so it’s treated like a total loss. They’re saying this car had damage, but it wasn’t in that category.
Mismatching panels are parts of the body that look different from the surrounding panels, usually because they were replaced or repainted. It often points to prior repair work after a crash. They’re using it as evidence of the car’s history.
The BMW M3 is BMW’s performance version of the 3 Series. In this story, it’s the car the speaker is getting ready, and they’re fixing an exhaust problem before they leave.
“Exhaust hardware” refers to the physical exhaust components—like sections of the exhaust system, flanges, and related mounting pieces. In this segment, the speaker says their exhaust hardware has been getting “crispy,” leading to cracking in the midsection.
Gaskets are the sealing parts that stop exhaust from leaking where two exhaust pieces meet. If the gaskets are missing, the exhaust can leak and not fit correctly.
The steering rack is the part that turns your steering wheel movement into the motion that actually steers the front wheels. If someone replaces it, it usually means the steering feel or alignment is being fixed.
Wheel alignment is the adjustment of suspension angles (like camber, toe, and caster) so the tires contact the road correctly. Getting an alignment done after suspension or steering work helps prevent uneven tire wear and improves steering accuracy.
The Mercedes-Benz logo is the badge on Mercedes cars. They’re saying the Mercedes is now on the road and they’ve driven it, but it makes some odd noises.
A damper is basically the shock absorber that smooths out bumps. If it’s making a weird noise—especially when you hit a bump—it may be worn out or leaking.
PTU is short for a power-transfer part in some all-wheel-drive cars. It helps send power to the wheels, and they’re wondering if that unit is making the noise.
Traction control is an electronic system that limits wheel spin by reducing engine power and/or applying brakes when the tires lose grip. The speaker mentions turning it off as a way to make a Lamborghini feel more “real drive only,” implying a more raw, less electronically managed driving experience.
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SV
SV is Lamborghini’s label for a more performance-oriented version of an Aventador. The host is using it to say you have to compare similar “levels” of cars, not a base model to a top one.
SVJ is Lamborghini’s name for a more hardcore version of the Aventador. The speaker is saying you can’t compare a normal car to an SVJ, because the SVJ is a much more extreme setup.
TVR is a British car brand that’s known for making very raw, intense sports cars. The host is saying the Revuelto feels similarly intense—like it’s more likely to feel wild than calm.
A “flagship V12” means the best, most important V12 engine a company makes. Here, they’re saying Lamborghini’s main V12 is the thing they’re known for.
The McLaren F1 is one of the most famous supercars ever made, known for being very special and very expensive. Here it’s mentioned to show that comparable top-tier supercars cost huge money.
A “mid-engine V12” is a car where a V12 engine sits closer to the middle of the vehicle instead of the front. That usually helps the car feel more balanced and agile when turning.
“Engine out jobs” means the mechanic has to take the engine out to fix something. It’s usually more work (and more money) than normal repairs because everything has to be disconnected and removed first.
Cormorant Motorsport is a car shop that did work on the speaker’s car. They’re describing it as a place that handles multiple fixes and keeps the owner updated.
A wide body kit is a set of parts that makes the car look and sit wider. People do it so they can run wider tires, which can help the car grip more in corners.
“EFI” is the name of the company that tuned the car’s computer settings. They adjust the tune so the engine runs right with the mods that are on the car.
They swapped the car’s coolant for plain water for track driving. Water can cool the engine really well during hard use, but you typically don’t leave it like that long-term.
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I&I's water
They mention “I&I’s water,” meaning a particular water setup they’re using for track cooling. It’s basically the same idea as swapping to water for the event.
The timing belt keeps the engine’s timing lined up—so valves open at the right moment. If it breaks, it can cause serious engine damage, so it’s something you replace on schedule.
The BMW M6 is a faster, sportier BMW made by BMW’s performance team. It’s meant for strong power and more aggressive driving than a standard BMW. People bring it up when they want to talk about performance cars in real-world situations.
The Ferrari 458 is a Ferrari supercar with the engine in the middle of the car. It’s famous for being fast and exciting, and for the way it sounds and drives.
The Ferrari 430 Scuderia is a more hardcore, lighter, more performance-focused version of the 430. It’s the kind of special Ferrari enthusiasts rent or chase when they want something closer to a track car.
The Ferrari California T is a Ferrari with a turbo V8 and a more comfortable, long-distance style. The host is just listing it among other cars they saw.
A Ferrari 458 Spyder is a Ferrari with a V8 engine and a convertible roof. The host is talking about driving one and noticing warning lights and how the car felt worn and sticky.
An O2 sensor is a sensor that checks the exhaust to help the engine run correctly. If it’s not reading right, the car may turn on the engine warning light even if you don’t feel a big change.
Suspension is what helps the car ride smoothly and grip the road. When someone says it’s “pretty shot,” they mean it’s worn out and the car won’t feel as good to drive.
A coupé is a car shape with a fixed roof and usually two doors. The host is basically saying they usually prefer that style, but they still like the Spyder (the open-top version).
Term
horsepower hunter's trajectory
It’s basically a playful way of saying someone who loves fast cars tends to keep moving up to more powerful ones. Here, it’s used to describe Ben’s dream-car path.
The Lamborghini Aventador is a very high-end supercar with a powerful engine and a dramatic look. Here, it’s brought up because Ben is trying to get permission to drive it.
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generation by generation
It just means looking at the newer version after the older version. The host is comparing different “steps” in the Ferrari lineup to see what they like best.
“Triple exhaust” means the car has three exhaust outlets. The hosts are talking about how that kind of styling/tech might become less common or less exciting over time.
The Ferrari 430 is an earlier Ferrari supercar with a V8 engine in the middle. In this part, they’re comparing its looks to the Ferrari 458 and saying they prefer the 430’s styling.
A diffuser is a shaped part under the back of the car that helps air flow in a controlled way. When someone says “massive diffuser,” they mean it’s a big, noticeable aero piece that can also make the car look more aggressive.
DRLs are the lights that run during the daytime so other drivers can spot the car more easily. Here, they’re talking about how many DRL “pieces” the headlights have and why that design looks the way it does.
LED headlights use LED lights to produce the beam. Because LEDs can be arranged in different segments, the number and layout of the LED elements can affect how the headlights look.
The Audi RS6 is a super-fast, high-performance Audi wagon. They’re talking about the headlights and saying the way the LEDs are arranged feels like an afterthought rather than intentional design.
The Ferrari F8 is another mid-engine Ferrari supercar, newer than the 458. In this part, they’re mainly debating the front headlight design—especially the “quad lights”—and how it makes the car look right to them.
“Quad lights” just means the car has four headlight elements up front instead of two. The speaker is saying that specific headlight layout is what makes the Ferrari F8 look right to them.
“9000” means the engine is spinning around 9,000 times per minute. They’re saying they like the Ferrari 458 because it feels like it wants to live up in that high-RPM zone.
The Ferrari 488 is a Ferrari supercar that uses a turbocharged V8. Turbos can make lots of power efficiently, so it can feel quick even without the engine screaming to extremely high RPM like some older naturally aspirated cars.
A turbo engine uses a device that squeezes extra air into the engine. That helps the engine make more power and torque, so the car can feel quick even if it doesn’t rev as wildly as some older naturally aspirated engines.
Torque is the engine’s twisting force. More torque usually means the car can feel stronger and accelerate harder, especially when you’re not at the very top of the rev range.
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NA VA
“Naturally aspirated” means the engine pulls in air without a turbo or supercharger. People often associate naturally aspirated engines with a more traditional feel, including higher-revving behavior.
The Ferrari F12 is a Ferrari with a V12 engine. People often talk about it as one of the last big naturally aspirated V12 Ferraris before the brand moved toward turbocharged engines.
The Ferrari 550 is an older Ferrari with a V12 engine. The host is saying some of these cars have appeared for sale and they’re interested in checking them out.
The BMW 5 Series is a larger, more comfortable BMW meant for everyday driving. It’s not a tiny car, and it’s usually chosen by people who want a mix of comfort and performance. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because someone is looking at cars to buy.
The Sierra Sapphire is a version of the Ford Sierra that’s known for being more performance-oriented. The “Sapphire Cosworth” name is especially associated with faster, turbocharged versions. People bring it up because it’s a classic performance car from that generation.
The Ford Sierra is an older Ford car. “3 Doors” just means it has three doors instead of four. Some versions of the Sierra were made to be especially quick, which is why people still talk about them.
The Ford Sierra Cosworth is a faster, more performance-oriented version of the Ford Sierra. It was made with help from Cosworth and is famous for being a turbocharged, rally-style hot hatch/sedan before that term was common.
A parcel shelf is a flat shelf behind the back seats where you can put bags or small items. The speaker is saying they put a baby there, which is exactly the kind of thing that wouldn’t be considered safe today.
The Honda Integra Type R (DC5) is a special performance version of the Integra. People like it because it’s built to feel sharp and engaging, and it revs high.
The Acura Integra is a compact car made by Acura. The “Type R” version is a higher-performance trim that’s meant to drive more like a sports car. The podcast mentions it because it’s a notable, specific Integra variant.
The Alfa Romeo Milano is a car model made by Alfa Romeo. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as part of a personal story about what was driven or brought home. It’s basically being used as a reference to a specific car.
An RS body kit is a set of exterior parts that makes a car look more like Ford’s RS performance models. It usually includes things like bumpers and side skirts.
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load on coils
This sounds like the car was lowered using coil springs (or coilover-style suspension). Lowering makes the car sit closer to the ground and can change how it drives.
A “cut and shut” is when someone rebuilds a car by cutting it apart and welding it back together from different parts. It can be a red flag because it may hide what really happened to the car.
Wheel horsepower is power measured at the tires. It accounts for losses in the drivetrain, so it’s usually a bit less than the power measured at the engine.
A motorsport exhaust is an exhaust system made to help the engine breathe better and to sound more exciting. It’s usually less about being quiet and more about making the car’s noise and response feel sharper.
OEM sound is the sound the car makes when it’s stock from the factory. People compare it to louder or more characterful exhaust setups to see how much the factory tuning mutes the engine note.
Aftermarket just means parts or upgrades that aren’t made by the car’s original manufacturer. People use them to change how the car looks, drives, or sounds.
The Ferrari F8 Tributo is a mid-engine Ferrari with a twin-turbo V8. Here, they’re talking about whether a setup is “standard” or “aftermarket,” and how that affects the sound you hear from the car.
Car
McLaren
McLaren is a supercar brand. In this discussion, they’re saying McLarens can have less-than-perfect exhaust sound and still be okay because of what the brand is known for.
Turbo noise is the special sound a turbocharger makes as it spools up and builds boost. It can sound like a whoosh or a chirp, and different exhaust setups can make it more noticeable.
Car
Ferrari
Ferrari is a famous Italian supercar brand. They’re saying Ferraris are supposed to feel more exciting and expressive, including how they sound, compared with other brands.
Term
Viola SE30
“Viola SE30” is a named paint color used on Ferraris. It’s the kind of detail enthusiasts care about because it identifies the exact shade, not just “purple.”
Coil packs are part of the ignition system that create the spark that lights the fuel in the engine. If they’re put in the wrong way, the engine can run rough or not start correctly, but once they’re installed right, it should smooth out.
An “oil finder” is a tool that helps you pick the right fluids for your exact car. Instead of guessing, you enter your car details and it tells you what oil types to use for the engine and other drivetrain parts.
Gearbox oil is the fluid that keeps the transmission’s gears and moving parts lubricated. Using the wrong type can cause extra wear or shifting problems, so matching the correct spec matters.
Diff oil is the special oil that goes in the differential, which is what sends power to the wheels. It needs to handle heavy forces, so it’s not the same as engine oil.
Brake fluid is the fluid that makes your brake pedal actually squeeze the brakes. For track driving, they’re talking about using a higher-performance brake fluid to help it keep working well when things get hot.
RBF 660 is a particular type of performance brake fluid. They’re choosing it because it fits the kind of driving they expect to do, especially when the brakes are worked hard.
The Actros is a large truck made by Mercedes-Benz. It’s built for commercial driving, like moving goods over long distances. The podcast mentions it because it stands out visually and is seen as a proper heavy-duty truck.
The Mercedes Actros is a big freight truck made by Mercedes-Benz. It’s the kind of truck you’d see on highways hauling goods, and the hosts are commenting on how its design looks.
A cab-over truck is built so the driver sits up above the engine. That usually lets the truck be shorter overall while still carrying the same amount of stuff.
It’s a truck where the driver’s seat is moved forward, closer to the front wheels. That helps the truck fit better while still carrying what it needs to carry.
A flat-nose truck refers to a front-end design with minimal hood length, giving a more squared-off profile. It typically goes along with cab-forward layouts where the engine/hood area doesn’t extend far in front of the driver.
Long-nose trucks have a more traditional front with a long hood in front of the driver. The engine sits farther forward, so the truck’s front end is longer.
A “manual lorry” is a truck where you change gears yourself using a clutch and a stick. Some people like it because it feels more hands-on and controllable.
The clutch is the pedal/part that lets you smoothly start moving and change gears. When you press it, it disconnects the engine from the gearbox so you can shift.
Emissions compliance means the truck is set up to meet government limits on harmful exhaust gases. If it doesn’t meet the rules, it can’t be legally operated or sold in that market.
Fuel efficiency means how far the truck can go on a given amount of fuel. Better fuel efficiency usually means lower running costs and cleaner operation.
A gearbox is what lets the engine use different “gears” so the truck can be efficient at both slow speeds and highway speeds. Different gearbox types change how much shifting happens and how smooth the drive feels.
Automated manuals are basically a manual gearbox, but the car handles the clutch and shifting for you. You don’t have to move a gear lever yourself, but the underlying gearbox is still “manual-style.”
SMG is BMW’s system for automated shifting—think of it as a manual gearbox that changes gears electronically. Instead of you operating the clutch and shifter, the car does it for you.
An 18-speed manual truck has a lot of different gear ratios. That can help the engine stay in the right rev range, but it also means more shifting and more effort for the driver.
Term
Fast and Furious gearbox
They’re jokingly comparing the shifting behavior to the Fast & Furious movies, where gear changes happen constantly. The point is that the gearbox is changing gears a lot instead of staying settled.
The differential ratio affects how fast the wheels turn compared to the driveshaft. A “short” ratio usually helps the truck pull and accelerate better, but it can make the engine spin faster when you’re cruising.
Term
three-fair
This sounds like a misheard term, but the idea is that it describes a very hands-on, physical shifting routine for the driver. The speaker is emphasizing how much work it is compared with automated shifting.
Term
draggy box
“Draggy box” is slang for a car that feels like it’s fighting against resistance—like wind or mechanical friction—so it doesn’t keep pulling strongly at higher speeds.
A restomod is when someone keeps the vibe and looks of a classic car, but updates the important modern parts underneath. In this case, they’re talking about making a newer Ferrari feel/behave like it’s a classic 458 in appearance.
Turbocharged means the engine has a device that squeezes extra air into it, which helps it make more power. They’re pointing out the F8 is turbocharged, and that could make it a better-value buy compared with the classic 458.
Term
Lotus Amira vibes
They’re comparing the car’s rear styling to the Lotus Amira, basically saying it gives off a similar visual vibe. It’s not a mechanical term—more of a design/shape comparison.
The Lotus Emira is a sports car made by Lotus. It’s designed to feel fun and responsive when you drive it. People mention it because it keeps the “Lotus” style and driving character in a newer car.
Term
rear reporter
A “rear reporter” here means the rear plate/trim area at the back of the car. They’re saying the design they’re showing looks good around that part.
The Lamborghini Revuelto is a very high-performance supercar. It’s made to be extremely fast and exciting to drive. The podcast brings it up because the ride experience stood out to the speaker.
The Volkswagen Golf is a common compact car that’s made for everyday use. A “GTI” is a sportier version that’s meant to be quicker and more fun to drive. The podcast mentions it because someone was looking at a specific performance Golf.
A split rim is a wheel made in sections instead of one solid piece. Racing setups sometimes use them because they’re easier to work with and can be made for specific tire and performance needs.
Speedline is a company that makes wheels for performance and racing cars. The host is using it to show that many “cool” wheels come from specialist wheel makers, not the car brand itself.
Brand
OZ
OZ is a wheel brand that makes aftermarket wheels for faster cars and racing. The point here is that many car brands outsource wheel manufacturing to companies like OZ.
Ronal is a company that makes wheels for car makers and for the aftermarket. The host is saying that car brands often work with wheel specialists instead of making wheels themselves.
Brand
PBS
PBS is mentioned as an older wheel-making company. The host uses it to illustrate that car brands have long relied on specialist wheel makers.
The Ferrari 288 GTO is a rare, high-performance Ferrari from the late 1980s. The host is pointing out that it can have more race-style wheels (like split rims) compared with cheaper, more basic wheel setups on related models.
Here, “cast” means the wheel is made by pouring metal into a mold. The host is saying that cast wheels are usually cheaper, which is why some cars use them instead of more race-style wheel designs.
“Fox” sounds like the name of the wheel manufacturer. Wheel brands matter because they make specific styles that fit certain cars.
Term
CSL wheel
“CSL wheel” means a wheel design tied to a BMW CSL model. People recognize these wheels because they’re distinctive and often stamped with the maker’s name.
Exhaust manufacturers are companies that make the parts in a car’s exhaust system. Sometimes a car brand uses an outside supplier, so you won’t always see the supplier’s name on the finished exhaust.
Outsourcing means a company gets parts made by other companies instead of building them all in-house. Car brands often do this to save time and use specialists for certain parts.
Concept
US banning cars made in China
They’re talking about a US rule that can block certain cars from being sold there if they’re linked to China (or Russia). That means a car might be built in one country but still not show up for sale in the US.
Polestar is a company that makes electric cars. In this discussion, they’re explaining why Polestar cars might be affected by US rules, based on who owns the brand.
Geely is a car company from China. The hosts mention it because it owns Polestar (and also Volvo), which they say is part of why Polestar cars could be restricted in the US.
The Polestar 3 is an all-electric SUV made by Polestar. They’re talking about it being built in one place, then shipped elsewhere, and how rules can stop it from being sold in the US.
North Swindon is a location in the UK where Polestar vehicles are said to be built in this segment. The hosts use it to explain the logistics: cars can be manufactured in the UK, shipped abroad, and then still face sales bans depending on destination-country rules.
The Lamborghini Revuelto is a very high-end supercar from Lamborghini. It’s the kind of car that stands out a lot, and here the host is saying even in a subtle silver color it still gets tons of attention.
Concept
German prison
They’re joking that Germany is so strict that you could end up in “prison” over something car-related. It’s not a literal legal claim—more like “they’ll really enforce the rules.”
When someone says the car feels “in control,” they mean it feels stable and not scary in a bad way. It suggests the driver can keep it predictable even when it’s fast.
Term
thrust mode
“Thrust mode” sounds like a performance setting that makes the car feel more aggressive when you accelerate. Here, they’re saying it didn’t work the way they expected.
The TVR Tuscan is a sports car made by TVR in the UK. It’s known for being exciting to drive and for feeling very fast. People talk about it because it can leave a strong impression when you experience it.
They mean the Nissan GT-R, a very fast all-wheel-drive sports car. They’re saying that if you’ve already experienced something like that, the jump to an even faster car won’t feel as dramatic.
“Rear end bite” means the back tires are gripping and helping the car stick to the road while you’re turning. When it’s strong, the car feels more controllable and eager to follow the steering.
Launch control is a mode that helps a car accelerate as hard as possible from a stop. It coordinates the engine and traction so you get a strong start without just roasting the tires.
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I reached out to an old flame and my phone was vibrating because we were working on this car
and I looked down and it just said France. I think now they're delivering cars. I don't know.
A man on the street. You've been making just socks.
Hello and welcome back to the CREAM podcast. The cars rule everything around me a podcast
with myself. Will Edwin to my right and Benjamin Rogers behind the camera over there
at the beginning of every single podcast. We ask ourselves if cars have ruled or ruined our lives
this week. Ben. Hello. They have ruled. Okay. I've got so a personal side of things. My golf
has, I've mentioned it was a little bit rattly on the engine and so I've had the
awks belt done, the awks belt tensioner and also the alternator pulley, which is another thing.
And now it is nice. It's better. Yeah. It is a TDI. So it's still sort of is a rattly engine.
Yeah. So I love that you guys. So you had this weird noise. You had only come in and help on it.
You then started it off afterwards. I saw you both standing there looking at it and you went,
is that just as rattly as it always is? Or is that worse or better? He went, I don't know.
Well, we worked out that now every single thing in the, apart from the crank, every single thing in
the drive belt system has been replaced. So in theory, hopefully it's all good. But yeah,
that's done. And then the red thing sat behind you, if you're watching, is my in yours. Yeah,
sure. In quotations, Fiesta ST. Your temporary steed. It is. We are going to the Nurburgring
this very Thursday coming. And Ben, you're very scared, are you not? I'm so nervous.
Like so nervous. What are you panicking about? Well, you're panicking about prison, obviously.
That's what I'm saying. These two have been winding me up all day about getting pulled over.
We're actually giving you serious warnings. Yeah. We don't want to see you in a cell.
Yeah, I don't want to see me in a cell. Because you wouldn't do well.
Like you wouldn't. You know, there are just lots of reasons that you could be put in prison in
Germany for things you do to your car. Like being orange, not a great start.
I used to cut like a sore thumb, almost literally. But like team dynamics,
illegal. They're not allowed those there. But yeah, you're on them.
They wind me up all day about getting put in prison in Germany for some reason,
and dying at the ring and all these different things.
Okay, perfect. So yeah, so but overall is a rule because this thing's pretty good. I drove
it back from Luton, we bought it from. It's good. It's just a fun car.
You will see the video coming soon. Will it be out? Yeah, Benjamin. Here we go. Benjamin,
lock in the brain. It will be out. If you have seen it, it's very funny.
It was interesting looking for a fiesta ST. If you have seen it,
you'll know that this is a great car. And it's never been on track.
We were on quite a tight schedule to get it bought. And I was editing, so I wasn't filming.
These guys said, we're going to buy a car tomorrow. And I was like,
cool, I'll see you guys in two days time. But we'll have the car. I got here and
there was no car and they went, yeah, we bought a fiesta ST. We're looking at one. So,
you know, it's hard to get one. But this one, it was not too bad. And obviously,
when we bought this, we did a little car vertical report on it. And it turned out that there has
been a little bit of rear damage on this car, which is fine. We've never written off or anything
like that, but I had a little assessment at the rear. So there's a few mismatching panels on this
car because we think it's been on track. We will get to that. Obviously, this podcast, again,
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Edwin, what is your rule or ruin?
Simon, it's a ruin for me. You know what? I've been, I was going to say, Ben,
you know this, but Ben, you're always in this state. You know when you get, you just reach
the end of the tether with cars and you're just like, I just don't want to deal with this.
I call that Wednesday. I just don't.
I got so annoyed. I was working in the BMW. I know it's a topic for many people.
They hate the whole, we're going to the Nürburgring thing, but look, it's exciting for us.
It's a trip with all of us together. Imagine going to a place with all your mates in cars
that you've all been building for the last few months. It's very exciting for us.
And I've been so excited. I've been getting my M3 ready and prepped.
Sorry, every weekend as well. You've been here the last two weeks in a row.
Three weekend. I have been here late at night, lucky weekdays. I was here last weekend until
2am on Saturday morning and then about midnight on Sunday night. So, you know, it's nice.
It's just been fighting me. Literally every step of the way has been fighting me.
And this weekend, I was like, right, one of the final things I need to do,
replace my exhaust hardware. You 46m3 owners will know your exhaust hardware goes very crispy.
And I removed that and my exhaust cracked. I was a crack in my midsection. Ben has that often.
I had to basically weld it up and then I realised that all the gaskets were missing,
even though I bought a gasket repair kit. Was that just an empty box?
No, it had the metal flanges in it. It didn't have a gasket, so perfect.
So, I've now been struggling because we leave on Thursday. It's Monday,
so it's tough. And I've got the car went for alignment without an exhaust.
I had to drive it there. Not good. I have a video of it. You can't hear me speaking in
the background. It's too much. It's a big old box on only 46.
Yeah. Backbox helps. I'll tell you what, quite a lot.
But other than that, we'll get onto it later. But I've had a blast from the past has reappeared.
Momentarily. We'll speak about it later. I'll get on to anecdotes. But for me, ruin,
because it will be a rule. Hopefully, the next one is a rule. If it's a ruin,
you'll know why it's because the M3 didn't make it to Germany because I'm a tough one.
There's a lot of tension around these units. Rory's talking about changing his entire steering
rack and doing other things. Something you've already done. And Rory's doing it with less
time now. Do you know what it is? It's people comforting each other in how much work there is
to do. It's someone walking up and going, I still need to book in an alignment and get
nacy road gas. I need to put two tyres on. What about you? And they go, yeah, no, I've
got to pull the interior out. And they go, all right, no, we're going to be okay. No, we'll be okay.
Knowing someone might be worse off than you, going, that's fine. If they're going to get
that done in time, I can do the minor things in time. Well, speaking of, what is it for you,
Rory? I don't know. It will be a rule. Surely it's a rule because it might not be the best,
best rule. It is. It's up there though. in my top three best rules because the
Mercedes-Benz logo is now on the road and I've driven it. There's a couple of little things.
There's a couple of little, little noises it makes. It's very, you know,
old and rattling and what such. And there's a weird noise coming from a damper. I think it is.
It scared me greatly on my back. Could you describe the noise? It goes,
you know, is it an A320? The sort of, yeah. Just neb us.
The PTU then? I think that might actually be what it is. I don't know why that entered my
brain. So it makes that noise and I thought, is that the engine? I don't think so. It seems to make
it randomly when driving, but then it will especially make it when I hit like a bump or
something. So I think it is a damper and I already know there's a slightly leaky damper,
which is fine because dampers are super easy to come by. Yeah. Yeah, they're great. I don't want
to know. And there's two dampers on each on the rear? There's six dampers total. Yeah. No, that's
nice. Now, I think it's just a front and I have been told, the guys at SBR said you can get them
rebuilt, you get them resealed, but there's like a six to eight week lead time on that and you need
to take the damper out and some cars are over. Yeah. So it's awkward. There might be a solution
for that, which I'll look into at some point. But yeah, so that's annoying, but the car drives,
it did an hour driving from SBR to here, which it was... I would say it was flawless, if I'm
honest. It might not sound like much, but that car hasn't driven in six years. No. The most it drove
in the last, yeah, basically six years was Dunsfold, but even then it was
five to 10 minutes at a time. Yeah. If that's easy, there's nothing sitting in traffic, whereas,
and also that was 37 degrees that day. That was a hot day. It was a very hot day. It was a big
old test on the car and it was fine. Now, there was something else here in the week as well,
that I wasn't aware of. We had something, didn't we? You've been kind of hiding something. Oh,
the Revolto. Sorry, what? Yeah, picked up a Revolto, didn't I? I did joke. T-shirt sales went well.
Yeah. Shout out to the Creamers. Basically, we had one month where we didn't have to pay Ben
while he was in Barbados, so we used the savings to buy a Revolto. We unleashed some funds. Now,
I've been speaking to Lamborghini Press for a little while about organizing something,
and then when the Murciaga happened, I went back to them and said, look,
it'd be really cool to do a little comparison video of Murciaga versus Revolto.
So they said, surprisingly, yeah, cool. Do you want a Revolto for four days?
So we've had that for the last, well, it went back literally this morning. I picked it up
Thursday morning. That's the most insane author bill I've ever been in in my life.
Absolutely mental. I was worried that maybe it would be too modern and Lamborghini would have
lost some of its madness. And yeah, it's ridiculously easy to drive and whatever else,
but my God, that's the maddest new car you'll ever see.
We talked about it here multiple times on the podcast where we were like,
yeah, I don't really care. I still like some of the looks I'm still not.
Yeah. Afterwards, so we went out in it and in the moment I was like, Jesus Christ, this is mental.
But then Will and I went for a drive. It's sorry to ruin the YouTube magic, but we actually did
the wrong way around. So that's in the video. We went out in the Mercilago instantly,
11 half pull and I was like, I do not care about that new car. It has nothing compared to
this. The Revolto is I can appreciate it and I, it's still very Lamborghini, which is why,
which is what made me happy. It doesn't make me want one more than a Mercilago or whatever
else, but I was just happy that Lamborghini are still doing Lamborghini things in the modern
day. I think it is as Lamborghini as they can be in 2026. Like, yeah, you could go more mental,
you could make it, you could take traction control off and make it real drive only,
but they can't. So this is the best. And I'll say it. I prefer it now after driving it to an
Aventador. Well, that's what you're on. But no, but there is a, there is an asterisk. One,
possibly some asterisks. One is that I think the Aventador looks better. 100%
overall better looking car, whether that's a standard one, original one, or an SV or whatever.
I would have learned you very aggressively if you'd said anything else.
But I just think if you go standard for standard, not saying, what about an Aventador or an exhaust,
what about an SV or an SVJ? Because it's not comparable. I'm saying, like, what is the
standard versions of those cars? The Revolto is in a different league.
It is mental. The Aventador, when we drove it, didn't think I'd ever be saying that,
but I've driven an Aventador. But it feels like a, supercar plus,
if that makes sense. Feels like a normal supercar, but quite a bit quicker and a little bit more
silly. The Revolto just feels mental, feels like it should. Do you know what it feels like, Ben?
It feels like, I didn't even drive it, but even the passenger seat, it feels like driving a normal
sports car versus driving like a TVR, where it goes, why none of this, this isn't helpful.
This just wants to kill you or make you feel unsafe, but in a cool way.
It's effective, a hypercar, really. I know it's not in today's money, it's not.
That is what Lamborghini does best. It's flagship V12 is, I don't want to say good value for money,
but if you want that same package elsewhere, you're going to pay double, triple, whatever,
how much more money with a Zonda or a McLaren F1 or a GMA, whatever. And they go, cool, now this
is just what we do, mid-engine V12, and it's still a proper V12, NAV, the hybrid stuff,
but it doesn't actually affect much the way it drives. But yeah, we've had that for a while,
so the video on that will have... Should have been out, though, yeah.
Yeah, it will have come out already, so a little comparison against my car. But yeah,
my car is now back on the road, which I'm very, very happy about. Some jobs, it's racking up a
lovely little list of engine out jobs, that car. So maybe over the winter, I might look into that,
getting some of those bits done. It needs a clutch, probably eventually, and some other bits,
but anyway. Then also, a McGann. I picked the McGann up at the weekend.
You owned a McGann?
I owned a McGann. That's crazy.
And it's so back.
Surely not.
It's so back. So John...
Hold on. Back again.
Back again. Again and again.
It's the McGann's bi-annual appearance.
It came back a week we get.
And it wasn't actually too bad, but it needed a couple of bits. I wanted to get it ready for
our little ring trip. So I gave it to John at Cormorant Motorsport, and he's done a load of bits,
actually. There's a load of bits. He kept messaging me saying, what about if you did this?
I mean, yes, that would actually be quite good.
So now it's got a slightly fruity exhaust and a different tune. So it sounds great.
Come back and it's a McGann GT3. It's the wide body kit.
My wheel Ls have been solved. I bought some Wedsport TC105s. I then had another tire L,
because my rear tires were too big. So I've had to buy two more tires.
So that's lovely.
You know what? Every tire shop in the UK must know you by name.
Oh, they just, they know seeing me coming.
Yeah. So it now has a completely different tune on it. I had no idea what remap it had to now.
It has a proper tune from the guys at EFI. I think it is different exhaust, different wheels now.
The brakes now actually work. Oh, it's had a quick brushing over that one.
Yeah, they do actually actually actually work. It's had coolant replaced with water,
water for the ring. It's very, very handy. So no fines for me.
Doesn't mean I won't crash, but no fines if I do. Well, smaller fines.
Right. So you've rolled four times and shot the track.
Yeah, but I am running the I&I's water. I feel free to go.
New Clarke's new timing belt, loads of loads of loads, loads and loads of bits.
That car feels so, so good now. I drove it back three and a half hours from Liverpool way.
How did you get that?
Very happy. I flew.
You flew there. I love that. That's a thing in the UK that we do.
That flights can be so cheap that it makes much more sense to just fly there.
I couldn't. I like there was not a way I could get a train.
It's meant to go from where I am to there.
It was like a nine-hour trip to get a train. I'd have to get eight buses.
It goes to Crow Flies by foot across some of it.
So I just flew to Manchester, then got a taxi.
How long was the flight?
An hour. Well, actually, it was about 45 minutes,
but it was delayed by an hour and a half, which was really nice.
45 minutes to get to Manchester.
You can also do it other ways where you go to Amsterdam first and then to Liverpool.
Oh, lovely.
I flew to Manchester, but I declined not.
That's quite slow.
Efficient use. Shout out the trains of England.
45 minutes.
If you have a way of speeding it up, get on to British Airways.
I thought it would be quicker.
It's not that much further than going into sort of near Europe.
Well, they got traffic on the M40 in it.
Oh, yeah. If I had to queue up on the plane later as well.
M6 toll as well. I got stopped by that.
Bad headwind and all. I mean, slowed down.
Up hill, isn't it?
McGan is back and better than ever.
I'm a little bit apprehensive about it going to the ring.
I haven't driven it a huge amount before.
I haven't driven it before.
But I think it'll be fine.
Never.
It feels like it drives fresh.
Do you know what?
We... There is a... I was just thinking off-camera that it is essentially that it does come back
for a week or two and then goes away for three or four months.
So, if anything happens on the trip coming back and it has to go away for work,
it will complete the prophecy and it will go away for a few months.
Somebody is not going to make it back because...
Between the three of us?
No, between everyone going.
Can we have, what, 15? I think 17 cars?
15 to 20 cars.
So, because of that, like, that is the chances of that many cars getting to and from the ring
and doing laps.
You know, the cream is now... All that matters is the cream team.
So, as long as the three of us get there and back, fine.
We've got to make a little pact on the convoy because I don't believe that...
Otherwise, I'll rub.
Will's too low.
I don't believe the convoy for everyone will stay together.
Okay. But what you're asking us is, well, you...
I'm not asking you anything.
For the purposes of this argument and the legality, we will be going the speed limit
and you'll be going under the speed limit.
Not true. I'll be on the speed limit.
People who cream together will bring together.
If that... Oh, no.
I just want the gang to hang out.
If that's the case, if you're doing the speed limit, then of course we'll be driving
together because we will be doing the speed limit.
Let's go hang out.
Let's do it.
Well, how would we get away from you if we're not...
If we're legally only allowed to go up to the speed limit.
In theory, you might enter Mexico and...
Not famously via a portal.
Not connected to France.
Well, as far as you do...
So, no, that would be good.
At your next podcast, you will get some law updates on what's happening.
Or we'll be dead.
Well, no, we'll be doing it from a local German prison
where Ben will be for having dropped coolant.
Now, if we go to prison, Ben can just play our bail.
Shall we move on to anecdote somewhat?
So that's two rules and a ruins.
I'm sorry, guys. I keep ruining it.
I keep actually ruining the podcast.
Benjamin, let's start off...
Let's start off.
You put in here big F prices.
What's that mean, then?
What's happening?
I want to do one of the week first because it makes sense.
Okay.
All right.
Then let's start with one of the week, Benjamin.
Just before we get to big F prices.
I've got a big one of the week.
Oh, here we go.
It's hit me like a ton of feathers or a ton of bricks.
Yep.
What's heavier?
Or whatever Will sleeps in a Monterey.
Yeah.
An in-joke.
I would like a Ferrari.
Here we go.
And I'd really, really like a 458.
What's going on?
Sorry.
The man who doesn't dream suddenly dream it.
Martin Luther King.
No, I saw it.
I didn't dream it.
I envisioned it.
So, hold on.
In a dream?
No, I just want one.
Or in person.
You actually saw it.
I just had a thought, really.
It was the first time for everything, isn't it?
I really want one.
How about this?
Take us through it from the start.
Right.
So, I'm Ben.
I was sad.
Not that far back.
Where was I sat on my sofa?
I don't think you know that far.
We don't need to just beginning of the thought.
Oh, okay.
Not a location of the thought.
Well, okay.
I'll send you some context.
Okay.
I would just have thought.
I want a 458.
Great story, man.
I don't know what it was.
I think I saw a real.
Talk to me about the feelings.
What is it?
Okay.
No, I don't happen.
I saw a real recently.
Okay.
And it's one of those classic, you know, you didn't buy an
10-ling of 20s.
Okay.
That is like a 458, but I kind of thought.
Although, crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
POV.
You didn't buy a micro one liter.
You bought a Ferrari 458.
The thinking mass micro.
The thinking man's daily.
Some silly thing like that.
And then, I think, do I see one in person?
I don't know what happened.
I can't answer that.
I don't know what's going on.
Like this story has gone completely right.
All I can remember in my mind right now is I looked at them.
But I think something happened to make me suddenly want one.
Because I'd never wanted to just.
You know, started with such confidence.
You know, when we make a video about like the TVL,
that's how we're like, I've wanted one of these since I was three years old.
These are, meanwhile, Ben, I think I want one of these.
I can't remember why or why.
But there's a little, there's a storyline.
It all follows.
It goes, I want one of these.
Yeah.
This is what I want.
Yeah.
Why?
Well, I don't know.
I can't remember how I found it.
I just think I like it.
I think, do I like that?
No, I like something else.
I definitely saw one at some point recently in person.
I can't remember where.
Okay.
So it made an impression.
It must have done.
And then the other night, I was just sat in my bed.
And I was thinking, I'm going to look at, I'm going to look at Ferraris.
Okay.
Well, that's because to me, if I have a, is, you know,
they all want 100 grand new and they've come down now to like 70.
You know, more than that, weren't they?
Yeah.
100 something, whatever.
And they've come down to like 70.
Jump change.
Not, not true.
I think they're a bit more than that.
They're a lot.
I think they're 105 is like the cheapest one I've seen.
Oh, no, they're a lot.
100 grand will get you a, like a ropey one, a real baggy one.
I'm fairly sure I've seen some seller auctions for our 100 grand.
Give me a number.
I'm talking 175.
We're talking big.
Yeah, I think you will.
We're talking 150 baseline now.
I forgot we are dealing with Ben.
So he is looking at 1,000 mile, you know.
Yeah, Ben put in like maximum.
I don't deal in with a high mile example.
Why would I deal with that?
Of course, I want a nice one to go in the collection on my marble floor at home.
That brings me on to big F prices.
You know, the price of them, they're going up.
I didn't realize to help one.
Oh, yeah.
True about that.
Recently.
And I was, I liked it a lot recently in Italy.
You drove full fun in Italy.
I was in Maranello.
They have those half now through the hills.
I didn't know about this.
Did you know?
No, what was that?
Okay.
Sorry.
Creepers.
Can we all just start?
Some of you can't see that reaction.
I missed it.
Ben said, for how long?
And then Ben went, I said half an hour.
He went, no, no, no, no.
It wasn't that.
Sorry.
Well, how long have you had behind me?
No, I wasn't scoffing at it.
I was laughing at it.
Because from what you told me, you said, you pitched it as if you had it for like a day or two.
And then you told me it was half an hour.
I was like, I said, I rented one half an hour.
No, you didn't.
So how many days did you have it then?
I thought so.
And what you didn't have the money to do it for two days.
No, I thought you said, said peasant.
For the story of the story, I thought you meant you rented it for the time you were in Italy.
No, of course not.
I had Jeep Renegade.
Very similar.
I wasn't scoffing.
But there's lots of places in and around Maranello where you can rent a Ferrari.
And the experience is actually fantastic because they do not care at all.
I did one many, many years ago.
I saved up all of my pennies and I drove a 430 Scuderia.
They don't normally have cars as exciting as like this limited edition
lightweight stuff anymore.
But they had a 458 there.
And 458 is relatively old.
Lots of the other cars are like Cali T's and Roma's.
They had a 296.
I thought that is very fast, but it's a V6.
So I thought, you know what?
They had a 458 Spyder.
Oh, a Spyder.
An option where you could drive it through the hills.
I thought, that would be great.
It was the baggiest thing I've ever done.
It was, every button was sticky and worn and it was just knocks.
And the engine light came on.
And I said to him, like, just to be sure, because there's lots of waivers and stuff inside.
And I said, the engine lights just come on just so you know.
Because I was like, to me, I think that's probably, it didn't drive any different.
It's probably a O2 sensor.
And he went, this lies.
Also, he's affiliated with Ferrari.
No, they're not.
It's very weird that Ferrari in that area are like,
I think actually physically, you can advertise your brand,
but they're very funny about you, like showing Ferraris.
Or like, actively going out there and pushing, come and test drive a Ferrari.
Because they have no relation to Ferrari.
But some of them are literally doing it 60 seconds from the factory or from the museum.
So they take advantage of it.
And there's only probably like five or six of the companies.
But anyway, there was a 458.
I thought, you know what?
Sod it.
It's an older car.
But that's the one I would drive out of all of them.
And my God, what an engine.
Which is the only thing left in that car.
Because all the suspension was pretty shot.
But God, it was fantastic.
It didn't quite push me to think I need to have one of those.
As in, I think I could take like, if I had one for a day
with driving through some nice driving roads, that would probably be enough for me.
Famously, you're a coupé man.
But 458 Spyder, I enjoy a lot.
Because before, when we were talking about it, you'd say you said you'd still have a
coupé or a Spyder.
But would you have?
This caught me off guard.
Because when I saw the 458 had the roof up and I went, oh, it's a coupé.
Oh, well.
And I got to the rear.
It is a Spyder.
Because that's what I like is it doesn't change a huge amount.
When the roof's down, the whole silhouette doesn't change a huge amount.
Because it's still got the buttresses.
So yeah, the engine in the gearbox and just everything on that car.
I have one from last month that sold on collecting cars for £115,000.
It was a high mileage, it's a Spyder as well.
High mileage, 40,000 mile car.
You're just following a horsepower hunter's trajectory.
Ben's going with, he's like, well, if he won't let me drive the
Aventador on the road, perhaps he'll let me in the 458.
How about this then, Ben?
Tom kindly from horsepower hunters says, hello, Benjamin.
That's how he speaks, of course.
You can drive either the Aventador or the 458.
Aventador.
Oh, okay.
No hesitation.
This year's my dream car.
I quite like one.
Seeing as you gave us so little information about how much you like it.
That's completely fair.
Just trying to work out.
I really like it.
I love how it looks.
But interestingly, I don't like how it looks.
No, I love how it looks.
I think it's very simple, but effective.
But I looked at 458s and then prices.
I was looking at the car in the photos.
And I looked at 488s because I think a 488 looks wise, underappreciated.
Because it's like an almost facelifted 458 look to it.
Then I looked at F8s.
So we're just going generation by generation up.
Yes.
I looked at F8s for a while because they really get me tingling and also fizzing.
I really like them.
And then I went back to look at 458s.
And we started all over again.
And this went on for some time.
After I'd done that, I didn't like it as much.
The 458?
It suddenly looked far too simple.
I think it will be appreciated in years to come because it's simpler.
Because of the, you're laughing while you're laughing.
I was going to tell you that next part of the story.
Oh, right.
I say sorry.
Is that like the triple exhaust thing?
It's different.
But I think that will probably get to an age where everyone goes,
they're not doing stuff like that anymore.
God, God, they're just, it's just so simple and lovely.
But the 458 doesn't look clean.
But the 458 never stood out to me as a,
I prefer, I think the 430 looks cooler to me.
But like the 458, especially, although not a huge amount is different,
but there's enough differences with that massive diffuser,
a different bumper and whatever else where it looks so much better than an normal one.
I'm going to ruin the 458 for you quickly.
Okay.
I'm just going to pull up on the screen for the audio listeners.
A 458, this is the one, that one that's old.
Now the headlights, the DRLs, how many of those are there?
Eight.
Why is that?
V8.
Fine.
Any thoughts on that?
I think he has an accident.
Okay.
Just another example for those of you that maybe haven't missed an earlier podcast.
That's a Ferrari.
Then claimed that the Audi RS6 deliberately has 10 LED headlights in the headlight,
in the headlight, is ridiculous and an afterthought and not a piece of design language.
No.
Meanwhile, the 458 with 8.
Can I finish my story?
Please carry on.
So I looked at them, I was thinking, I don't know, I was just imagining more.
And then this was late in the evening.
So I went to clean my teeth of the bed, was gone for a bit.
Came back, just to get myself nice and settled down in bed,
I thought I'd have another little look at 458s.
And a hot milk, of course.
Yeah.
Were you carrying the saucer with the candle on it?
Yeah, I was about to go honk, shoot.
Striking pajamas and all such.
I led back in my bed and I watched videos on it.
I looked at more photos of it and you know what?
I came back around.
I love it again.
That was quite an experience.
It was interesting that I went though, the more I looked at more modern Ferraris,
not like the current generation, but like up the F8.
And then we saw you look at that one.
I didn't like it as much.
You said up the F8.
Way, way up the F8.
Get the crest in.
I, do you know what?
I've actually, I've had a similar experience because I like the 458 a lot.
But then whenever I think about it, I like the F8 the most.
The quad lights is it for me.
I've always, when the 458 came out, I always thought it was really awkward looking
because it only had two.
And because it had gone from four small ones to two really big ones,
it just looked really odd.
So now you see, here's what I'll say.
I'd prefer the F8 if it had two lights.
No, you wouldn't.
That was horrible.
Because for me, but okay, but hang on.
Your, your opinion is right.
Is right.
No, it comes from probably your nostalgia to old Ferraris, right?
No, just because that is correct for Ferrari.
That's just what I said.
But not really nostalgia.
It was, but reworded.
Yeah.
But for me, the F8 is like the modern version of the 458,
because that's when I became conscious.
So because of that, I would like a more modern 458 look, but please listen.
Would you care about engine, but that's the thing is I want the 458 engine
because it's always at 9000.
Yes.
I mean, it's something ridiculous.
And even the 488 goes down to like way below that.
But it's a turbo engine.
So it just doesn't, and it is, that is apparently an excellent engine.
I have absolutely no doubt, but because it's very efficient and it's very fast
and it still revs quite high and it's got more torque and it is overall better.
But it isn't a ridiculously high-revving NA VA.
Yeah, that's cool.
So is it, I think, is that pin in Farina's 458?
I don't know, I don't know when they stopped on.
I know F12 was basically the last big V12 pin in Farina.
But I think it is pin in Farina.
Yeah.
I say, bring them back guys.
But yeah, I say, you say, give me money please.
So you say, well, I was sad because I can't own one.
Well, one day was the price going up.
Hey, but you never know, Ben.
And things, they peak and they trough and they move and it is fluid.
Now, speaking of, I had, I reached out to an old flame.
Jezus back in the picture.
How is he?
Now, unfortunately, it's sad news.
There have been some Ferrari 550s that have come up and I've been looking at
auctions and things and potential finance to try and look at just trying to get into a 550
before I think the prices go too mental.
And I thought, you know what?
One last try.
Let's throw a Hail Mary.
Let's see if we can get a response from Jeze.
So I sent him an email today and said, Big J, what's happening, man?
What happened to us?
We used to be great.
And one last chance.
Look, let me know what's happening because I haven't heard from you in a month.
Peace out though.
And not two minutes later, I walked into the unit and my phone was vibrating because we were
working on this car.
I looked down and it said, is it plus 33?
Is France?
And it just said France.
That's what France is calling.
The Prime Minister of France is calling.
He's my crumb.
He's been driving over in that fiesta esteem because we will arrest him if he does do that.
Why?
And I knew it and I immediately knew it.
So I literally picked up the phone and I went, Jeremy.
He went, oh, how do you know it was me?
I have your number saved.
And I spoke to him about it.
Essentially, he is still fighting with insurance to pay him out of the car.
They value it lower than what they want to pay him.
He's pushing back on that.
He's pushed it back for so long, it's been multiple years now, but then I'm going to court.
And he said, to be fair, to me or to him, that it's going to take a while.
If it goes to court, it's going to be a long time.
So he's like, I'll be honest.
If you find a car, but I'll let you know.
I don't have anyone else interested in this car and I will be able to buy it back as salvage.
If I do, I will let you know.
If that day comes and you're in the market for it, it might happen.
Because I would still like to build a crashed one where I wouldn't have to care as much.
And I could be much more me about it.
So, you know what?
Jezza, we may one day hear from Jezza.
It might happen.
We'll have cream episode 280.
200, you're calling it out.
280, that's a long time.
No, that's a long time.
I'm going to say...
Speaking of...
It will be before episode 200.
I'm going to say it's before episode 130.
That's we'll get that on a shirt or something.
Roads to Jezza.
But in one of the last episodes, we jokingly said, pull up episode 47 at 37 minutes.
What do we do?
What, you know, what we do in creamers?
What were we doing?
A kind creamer has gone into the comments.
Lewis, I won't say your last name to not box you.
But Lewis said, episode 47 at 37 minutes refers to asking people to make comments.
It's a full circle moment.
That's mad.
That feels like a portal into a different world.
Well, it's also proof that we do, we plan all of these.
The amount of dross we speak.
So, Ben, if you could just call out one on the moment from another podcast,
and we'll just get double check that it's not...
Or is that one...
Sorry, episode 47.
That was 47 at 37 minutes.
I'm going to take it way back.
I'm going to go to...
Throw it right back to episode...
Episode 21.
Sure, episode 21.
And what was our timecode?
22 and a half minutes.
22, around about the 22 and a half minute mark.
What were we discussing?
What were we discussing?
Someone, please comment and let us know.
Lovely.
Thanks very much.
We could check what quite easily.
But that's boring.
But exactly, yeah.
We can also talk about, we've been asking, we've been interacting with the creamers.
I think this might be my favorite interaction with the creamers.
Yeah, asking about what car we went home, what you went home from the hospital in as a baby.
Fantastic.
All around from the creamers.
Amazing.
People interacting with each other.
People saying, ah, this was...
I went and spoke to my parents about this.
I had never asked them this.
It was good.
Great.
Some really good ones.
So to recap, I was in 850R, you were a Volvo 340.
Lots of people involved with this.
Yeah.
Obviously, yeah.
Big answer.
The thinking man's baby car.
I think it is just the baby car.
We had some very...
There was one that I think just came in today, actually.
I said a Sapphire Cosworth.
Well, I've got a list of some of my favorites that I've taken.
King Lewis.
It's King Lewis.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Said, I was born in 2000.
My dad drove me home in a Fiesta.
No, in a Ford Sierra Cosworth.
And then the week after, he slammed it into the side of a police car and lost his license.
The car was written off.
I wish this was a joke.
Nice.
That was good on you.
Hopefully, you weren't in the car.
No, yeah.
Hopefully, well, still alive to tell the tale.
Yeah.
When I was born, I was taken home in my granddad's Lotus Colton,
that he was still owns today.
He still owns it now.
Mr. Sykes, you win.
I'll be honest.
I think that's cream of the crop is a Lotus Colton.
Quick bank raid on the way home.
You know, get that done.
I was brought home in a Lancia full via HF.
There wasn't room in the back seat,
so I was put on the parcel shelf in a bassinet.
The 80s were a crazy time.
To be fair, well, I took my granddad out in the Roberto
at the weekend that I was...
He looked in the back and went,
I was playing a room for a baby here.
And I was like, well, not really.
That's not really safe.
But he went, oh, that's what I used to do.
So he used to...
He had a TVR and there was a little parcel shelf in the back.
He was like, put baby there.
Crazy.
That's not really safe, but fine.
But yeah.
Also, your lineage depended on that.
Like anything went wrong, you're gone.
You're all right.
In 1993, my dad brought me home in a tungsten metallic
Renault 5 GT turbo.
My dad says to this day that if it was not as fast
as it was, I would have been born in the back of it at 5am
on the way to hospital.
It's quite good.
And then there are a few more.
There was not me, but my eldest daughter,
now six was brought home in a Milano red DC5 Integra type R.
Wow.
That's cool.
Straight up cool.
Was it modified?
You'll have to ask Tom who made that comment.
Please comment.
On behalf of my daughter, she was brought home in a blue
1999 Mondeo ST200 estate.
Well, I was brought home in a 1994 Mondeo
two litre GLX estate load on coils with a full RS body kit back in 1998.
Oh, wow.
I like this.
Creamers are on top for this.
And pulling up with proof, like we said, photos of these cars.
There's all sorts.
Now, this one is from Oliver Dance.
I want to know, I want proof of this Audi 80 S2 Avant.
That's it.
That's all it says.
It just says Audi 80 S2 Avant for me.
S2 Avant?
Why am I not trying?
So that's the RS2 shape, but just a little bit.
But narrow and yeah.
And then the last two are my favorite one.
So this one's not particularly that interesting, but just perfect English.
Driven home in a cut and shut Sierra estate that would get stolen weekly
and brought back with a full tank of fuel so it was never reported stolen
right up until the police banged on the door to ask if my mum had been doing robberies in it.
I like that.
That's England.
And then in a similar vein to end, Kai Jolly, you have a run up for me as the second best.
As a new human, I was brought home in an S1 Ford Escort RS Turbo.
My son just last year was brought home in a white sapphire Cosworth with 420 wheel horsepower.
That's good.
Crazy.
Big, you know what?
Shout out to the creators.
Yeah, you're also just pulling up the better ones than any of us.
I love it.
Again, if you haven't seen that section, have a think.
Go speak to your parents.
Go have a look.
Go find some photos.
See what you were taking home in.
Even some cool stories of cars you were in.
Yeah.
It's just cool to see that stuff.
So we've seen some really cool photos.
The photos are great.
The period photos.
I'm sure there's some sort of GDPR violation with us having lots of photos of used children.
But, you know, we'll keep those safe.
Ben, back to Ferraris because you are the richest man here, after all.
You put in here something about the new Testerosa sound.
Yes, there is.
849?
849.
Yes, I'm going to play you some sounds.
Okay, I'm going to put money on the fact that it's an 849 Testerosa.
Yeah, I think I know.
He's my best friend in England.
So the new 849 Testerosa has been, I think now they're delivering cars?
I don't know.
A man on the street.
That's exactly what he's talking about.
Basically, it's like any modern Ferrari or any modern supercar.
It's hybrid, I think.
Oh, at least it's turbo.
It's very muted, the noise.
Okay.
And you've heard it in person, right, to convert that?
No, no.
So what am I going to do?
But you're going to play us this possibly hybrid, possibly V8, possibly turbo.
So I'm going to play you this company.
Ferrari.
I'm making this car the 849 Testerosa they call it.
Possibly hybrid.
Brille, steel, motorsport exhaust.
Okay.
They've built an exhaust for it and they can make it sound a bit fruity.
Oh, already?
I thought, you know what?
Quite good.
First of all, it plays the OEM sound, which is depressing to hear.
Muted.
Yes.
Let's get a VAR.
So you're going to tell us which one's standard and which one's aftermarket?
You can probably tell.
Standard?
F8 Tributo.
Sorry.
It's coming a bit M140.
My issue with that is that it sounds like a McLaren.
Yeah.
And McLaren's are kind of okay.
Not okay having that noise, but they're not known for being a great sounding car.
I think McLaren's get away with it because their whole thing is,
they're a bit German.
Their thing is efficiency.
Yeah.
It's like, I'm allowed to sound a bit M because I'm just good at what I'm doing.
Turbo noise.
But the whole thing with the Ferraris, you're supposed to be,
you're supposed to be a bit flamboyant and a bit mental.
But that's just rev.
It's like a Temuraria.
Yeah.
There was a Temuraria recently with that.
The purple, the Viola SE30 purple color.
And that sounded good because it had that sort of Koenigsegg vibe, but it's still not.
I don't think the Temuraria can sound good.
I haven't heard one that I like.
I thought that sounded better than the Temuraria.
I'd love to hear a Temurarian person.
And I'm sure we will at this year's.
There's like a week where there's cars around.
We'll hopefully probably see one there.
Well, a couple of us will.
Yeah, we'll get on to that.
Well, yeah, we'll see about that.
What we got next?
We have big news from Richard Porter.
Oh, yes.
Have we?
Yeah.
We, I will read the email.
Oh, well, he informed you.
He informed me.
Oh, I thought it was an organic find.
No, no, no, no.
Richard Porter, we speak to via email and respond to via the podcast.
Yes, that is, that is, there are much more efficient ways to talk.
But this says, I hope you're ready.
This is an email from Richard Porter.
I hope you're ready to play Wembley.
Tractors at Night is now officially on Spotify, Apple Music,
and other streaming platforms.
Chart domination.
Here we come.
Incredible.
And then with a link to the Spotify.
If we do get Wembley, which is possible,
which is the only way Ben gets out of bed.
Yeah, I'll do Tottenham.
I mean, but I'm thinking like what's Edwin and I's position in this?
Because the vocals are mainly you.
We kind of like ad lib.
Ad lib every now and then.
Get your back up.
Drums.
Dancing, I guess we could do.
You could dance.
I'd like.
Interpretive dance.
Yeah.
So what, so Richard Porter, can you just let the stage for me?
Can we skank to it?
Will you?
Is Richard Porter mixing live?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's on like a DJ.
He's on the synth.
He's on like a booth.
Yeah.
And do we have like an entourage of people behind going?
Whoa.
That's us.
No, because I think you should be in front.
I think that's entirely up to Richard.
I think that's for him to decide.
As I mean, he is kind of the forefather of Tractors at Night.
That's Johnnest.
We're just featuring on it.
So it's for him to choose.
But we're here to support Richard in whichever way we can help at Wembley.
You know, the 2000s and the 90s, there wasn't a single music artist that could go on stage
without 27 backup dancers.
Yeah, sure.
That's what I think you should be.
I would like, I would like each backup dancer to look vaguely like us.
Oh, wow.
So we get some like Claire Boulding-esque Gordon Ramsay, some time.
It was straight there.
Yeah, no, just there.
Just some sort of fat, like a Dutch person.
Couple of gorillas.
Yeah, there you go.
Wow.
Like the band.
They're playing us in.
Gorillas.
Don't think they're animated, aren't they?
What?
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, the gorillas are not real, are they?
Well, we can get the same stuff they put the hologram of Tupac on.
We'd get them out.
All right, tell me.
So I think I'm excited for this.
Now, you said, I think we've all said, I listened to it a few times on Spotify.
Same.
And I was moving the eight series around, and exclusively when I drive the eight series,
I have an eighties playlists on.
And I started, now Richard Porter surely must be impressed to hear this,
that I started a radio off of a Kowinski song.
And I was listening to it in the eight series.
And the next song came on, I went, oh, I know this.
Why do I know this tune?
And then I have been go tractors at night.
Wait, was it tick of the clock?
No, tick of the clock was in me.
Because if it's tick of the clock, it's kind of similar tracks at night.
So are you implying Richard Porter is copyright intellectual?
Similar genres.
Okay.
But I'm incredibly impressed to say that my Spotify has already gone.
You like AC Synth?
Have a bit of Richard Porter in there.
Have a bit tractors at night.
I had my Spotify DJ play of me.
Yeah.
And what did he say?
Next up, you, Ben, I got a couple of ones you've been listening to recently,
and then he just plays tractors.
Tractors at night.
I played tractors at night, and then it followed it up with a song called Sunglasses at Night.
Oh, okay.
You're on that night time playlist.
It went, my Spotify said, well, something else at night.
Isn't it?
But yeah, I've listened to it in the Roberto, which was fantastic.
You're very wonderful.
You can confidently say you are the only human on earth that has ever listened to tractors at night
in a Lamborghini.
And in the most like, all in one day, it got blasted in both of them in one day.
I have a photo, because when we did the reactions for that video,
and I was in the car of Will, I looked over, it's like speedo.
It just said in the very, it says all the pressures, the speed, everything bottom left,
it's just tractors at night.
It doesn't even say now playing, it just says tractors at night.
But the problem is, it is a banger.
Yeah, no, it is quite catchy.
If you haven't heard, please search up.
I think it's ADO88 on Spotify, which is from memory and old Metro concept car,
which would make sense.
It's very esoteric for Ridgeport.
It's surely a merch collab.
Tractors at night.
See, look, he just sees you outside.
He just sees.
It's your, your Joe Jackson.
We can, we can donate the proceeds.
Ben's going to have us afterwards going, right, we've got to practice.
That's it.
That hurts those moves.
Moonwalk, Edward.
We can, we can donate it to charity.
Okay, proceeds.
Really?
Is that?
Yeah, that's exactly what we can do.
Meanwhile, the merch logo is set 10 feet from here.
Hey, it's not going to pay for this.
Ridgeport, you guys are getting paid.
But it's on Spotify.
So make sure we, I don't know what power we have,
or we know that the creamers are all powerful.
We know that.
But if we can, well, whatever we can do to boost those numbers.
Quick, a quick side note.
I wanted to shout out to the creamers for the response on the collecting cars thing.
Now we said we're doing a little side hustle,
a little moonlighting on the collecting cars channel.
And we said, some creamers in the comments would be great to see.
Boy, did you deliver.
Oh, they showed up.
Now, you know what?
Some of it, all of it, great.
Some of it quite funny.
There were some announcements for other presenters.
You decided to infiltrate that too.
Please let's keep it respectful.
There was a couple.
I think one of them was, who's this?
I'm not watching unless it's Ben the event Rogers.
Well, so me and me, absolutely nothing to do with any of that.
There was a rumor that one is potentially Ben Collins.
And some said, I don't want that.
I want Ben the event.
It's totally fair, but let's keep it.
So a few outlays of people just messing around.
That's fine.
Mega shout out to those of you that did turn up.
And those of you that watched the video,
we've only got a few years like a pilot episode,
but hopefully it will carry on because we just walk around looking at cars, man.
And the next one, actually, we drive some cars as well.
We drive some very, very cool stuff.
And then we have a couple of other,
we have one other collection lined up that I'm hoping we're going to do that.
Also that no one has ever seen ever.
No one's ever filmed.
It's very new to the sort of world.
If you like of like, you know, putting the collection.
Yes.
Baby has bought in a load of cars.
Ah, fair.
It's what you should be doing.
But of course, there are mercy logo's in that collection.
Multiple.
You should drive your mercy logo too.
I should.
Shouldn't I?
Now it's very legal.
Bit of a flex.
We should do a video of our collection.
We did.
We did.
Last Friday.
Last Friday.
It's quite different.
Oh, loads of people were asking in that comment section,
what happened to the beat?
The beat is there, which you didn't talk about it
because it's a way in storage in a different location.
It's not that location.
Why didn't you look at the beat?
Ben, how many cars have I got?
Too many.
Right.
You put the beat.
Can't drive them all.
You could like come to work on the beat.
What?
It's summer.
Okay.
I'm driving other cars.
I'm driving the 8 Series, I'm driving the E46.
E46?
Right.
But also, yeah, right now.
Drive it to Germany.
The beat is Germany.
The beat, the beat.
It doesn't have an MOT now.
It needs a bit of work to get through on.
So it's to the side.
Everybody loves it.
I love it too.
We could tuck it over there on the shelf.
On the shelf.
Up there on the shelf.
We just put it behind the toilet door.
It could live in the toilet.
It could live in the toilet.
The secret toilet that no one's open.
Yeah.
So don't worry.
You will see the beat come back at some point.
People were asking if it had gone.
It's gone nowhere.
Do you do a second shout out?
Sure.
Shout out to the cream Instagram.
Which is now, I think, now.
One thing that the creamers do not know is the...
Could you create like a shorthand for the cream Instagram
that's just a bit clunky?
So like cream Instagram.
Sure.
Or like, hold on.
Get those cogs working.
Oh, no. What's it called when you have...
Is it a creamery?
Yeah.
When they make cream?
Look, we've said, if we ever...
Will and I were talking the other day,
if cream ever does get to a point where we can rent our own unit
or buy a location,
I looked into the legalities of if you can just change the name
of your house.
Like, if your house is called...
Bingle.
That's a great point.
Bingle Town.
It's not.
Can you change it to cackle beans?
Is that allowed?
That's the doxing all of us.
Are you allowed to do that?
So I've...
So I looked at it.
I think you basically can.
So I want to change where...
If we ever to get somewhere,
it's got to be the creamery.
I mean...
Has that we won't make cream?
Well, we will make cream,
but not cream.
Like a permanent set.
Not creamers like your nan might know it.
No, yeah, you know, none of that.
So, but sorry, carry on.
The cream Instagram that exists,
and one thing that creamers do not know
is that there are clips you see.
Oh, who's making the clips?
It's not me.
Is it you, Evan?
It's not me.
It's not me.
And if it's not any of us, then who's editing them?
It's not deck you who edits...
It's not deck.
And if it's not deck, then who's editing them?
It's see you laser.
It is.
Has been shout out.
Recruited by the cream lords.
Shout out to our boy, see you later.
He is a machine.
Yeah.
He sends me reels, and I go,
this is fantastic.
Let's get that.
So if you'd like to follow our Instagram,
that is atcarlsruleeverything.
Yeah, we couldn't get a cream.
It's very long.
And atcream is taken,
and dots in Instagram is annoying.
But atcarlsruleeverything, go on there,
do your stuff, comment things.
There is someone commenting saying,
Mr. President, there has been a 13th reel
on Carlsrule Instagram.
That's quite good.
That's been going on for some time.
I unfortunately wish to let you know
that there are something like 50 scheduled reels.
So you will be commenting that for a while.
Maybe they're scheduling the comments somehow.
Oh, okay.
They have some sort of bots that goes every time that posts.
Post that.
That's fine.
But you're a dedicated bunch.
We'll give you that.
Shout out to the gang.
Dedicated.
I think some of you are sort of 24-7 creamers.
Where are you going?
Well, healthy.
I don't need a job.
I'll just cream.
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We've poured some fresh Motel in just about an hour ago.
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Next up, we have Ben.
You put it in here.
Mercedes truck is the balls.
I think, so we were driving to Luton to buy this Fiesta ST.
We're on the motorway.
Never something you want to hear.
No, yeah, but makes good content, doesn't it?
And we saw one of those Mercedes trucks.
I don't know.
I don't want that car.
I don't want that car.
I looked it up before the podcast.
I think it's a Mercedes lorry.
I looked that up.
It's called A.
When you prepare your fingers.
Vito plus.
A Mercedes.
I've just got it up.
Actros L.
Hey, that's a crap name.
And they named it after you, didn't they?
I think Actros has always been one of their names.
It has.
I don't know if it's only electric, but this all lorries look the same.
Agree.
And now I know lorry drivers and people who are into lorries will say that's not true.
But to me, they look the same.
But the Mercedes Actros, that looks the balls.
Do you know what?
I really do agree.
I think they're very cool.
I'll put a photo up on here.
They have this like crazy futuristic looking face.
Here we go, Wilson.
You don't like that?
I've just noticed something.
What's that?
What's it say?
Something.
The mustache?
The mustache.
It does have an interesting German mustache.
Oh, yeah.
But as a futuristic looking thing, when I see it...
Because you see lorries and trucks on the motorway.
You do.
Maybe we found a sequel to tractors at night.
Lorries at night.
Lorries on the motorway.
Lorries, they are big.
You see lorries on the motorway that have a 26 plate,
and yet they look like they're from 2003 or from 1991.
They look like a daft truck from the old times.
That's what I thought 2020 looked like in the year 2000.
Jet powered.
That's crazy cool.
The Mercedes Actros.
It looks quite sad, I think.
It does look quite sad.
It has a handlebar mustache.
He's like an old Texan cowboy.
Yeah, but it also looks incredibly modern.
Yeah, I agree.
I quite like a lorry.
I think our lorries are better than those stupid American lorries.
I totally agree.
They're just unnecessary.
Oh, what's it called?
Big lorry.
Cab over.
Ours are a cab over, I think.
Over cab.
What's it called?
No, I think ours are cab over.
Cabriolet.
No, I'd love to see one.
Long nose.
No, that's not it.
I'm an American.
What?
What's European like a Scania?
Hold on, that's just...
That's called a cab over.
Where you're sat on top of the engine.
You sit on the engine.
Yeah.
What makes a way more sense?
I've just put in truck names.
Steve.
I've got George.
I've just put in truck names.
I've got recycling truck, fire truck, delivery truck.
Types of lorries.
Like what's so long like a big American lorry?
Patrol boat.
That's not a lorry.
It's a patrol boat.
Then it's just got a photo of a concrete mixer.
No, I think that's right.
Edwin, please.
Back in the room.
Sorry.
What's it called?
Boat with l...
No, lorry with long nose.
Lorry with nose.
We've got a cab over truck or a flat nose or a forward control truck.
Have a cab sitting directly above the front axle.
There will be lorry drivers listening to this as they are lorry driving
right now.
Going tearing their hair out.
While they're getting a fantastic turn on their right arm.
Conventional or long nose trucks have a traditional hood in front of the driver.
I saw a real recently of a tour of one of them.
And this in America.
I don't understand.
Well, I do know why.
It's because in Europe we have a lot of tighter roads and stuff.
So it's more manoeuvrable because you have no long nose and you sit over it.
It's also for servicing so that the engine is easily accessible at the front
as opposed to having to lift the whole cab.
But also in the US, I know they do a lot of basically just straight roads.
So you can have that.
It's a bit like getting in like a BSRST that we have versus like a big long truck.
Just going straight.
But I saw a walker on one of the...
That's like a brand new American truck.
It's built in the 80s.
Are they built...
Do they have a bigger built engine?
They have an engine.
Do they have a bigger engine that sort of...
I'm assuming they do because it's American.
But in terms of like for going further is what I mean.
I don't know the answer to that.
I usually have every answer.
Good.
I just think that's necessary.
I'm sure they're not unnecessary and Americans will tell me that wrong.
But I prefer our lorries.
Our lorries look like they're doing business.
They look like...
Our lorries are on job.
And the guy said in the video, he was like,
Yeah, this one's got all analog dials.
But why do you want that?
I want it to be...
Oh, you want this like a screen, like a modern thing.
Because it's all functional for work.
It's not...
I don't know the end.
I've always wanted to drive a lorry.
But I've always wanted to know what the ins and outs of it are.
But what do people prefer?
Do people want a manual lorry?
Do you want that?
Do you want a lovely deal-cut clutch lorry?
As far as I'm aware, I think in the US, they want manual lorries.
Because it's like a shame for to not have that.
I've just found a comparison between European and American trucks with a little breakdown.
Engines and power.
Here we go.
Fantastic album name for our sequel.
Truck at night.
European trucks, 11 to 13 litre engines.
Optimised for fuel efficiency and emissions compliance.
American trucks, 12 to 15 litres.
Jeez.
Sometimes over 16.
Interesting, because that wasn't what you put on the first bit.
Prioritising torque for long runs.
And then you just said gearboxes.
European tends to be automated manuals, standard.
I think this is SMG.
American trucks tend to be older fleets, still run 18 speed manuals,
modern fleets shifting to automatic.
18!
They have the Fast and Furious gearbox.
Yeah, that with a nice short ratio diff.
Just the whole way down.
Oh, nightmare.
Never not changing gear.
An American truck, if you've ever seen a new one driver, is mental.
It's that three-fair.
That's a physical job.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not saying that the European ones aren't, but that is a...
You're changing gear.
All the other drivers.
No, I'm just saying that is...
You've offended a lot of people.
We've already offended a lot.
Prepare your DMs.
What I'm saying is that it's actually, to me, I think it's mental.
Why do you want to change gear so much?
It's every... Try and get a 60.
It's just meh, meh.
Changing gear up to whatever gear it is.
But yeah.
I'd love to drive a lorry.
I've been in the cab of a lorry once.
Have you?
It was great fun.
On a big old boy as well.
I used to work at M&S.
And I went up a spirally thingy in it in the passenger seat.
And I was...
The Bounty seat.
Over the air with the air control seat.
Yeah, it's truly lovely.
Used to... This is incredibly random.
I once hitched a lift in a truck 800 miles from Cape Town
to where I used to live in the desert.
And I got sleep in the back of it.
It's just great.
In the little house bed.
Yeah, that's cool.
Just a straight-up bed.
Well, he had... The truck driver was the bottom bed.
I was at the top on the top.
Sorry, the bottom bed.
Yeah, it was two.
It was two. There was a top bunk.
What was they need that for?
For sleeping in.
For how they have hours.
No, but I mean, why do they need two?
In case a young man gets in it.
Yeah, exactly.
Just a young boy.
For how old were you?
I was 14, 15.
Yeah, look, it feels a bit sketchy without it.
It feels like a news article.
Yeah, but don't worry, it was all above board.
But yeah, cool inside.
And that was a basic one.
That was like a super basic one.
I have American ones that have like miniature house inside.
What shape was it?
Was it a cabover or was it a long nose?
It was a Volvo. I want to say it was a long nose.
A long... Does that exist?
What?
A long nose Volvo.
I thought a lot of Volvo trucks are squares.
Because we live in England where they're all squares.
I want to know how much faster a lorry is when you eject your load.
I would imagine quite.
No, no, because obviously you have it when the lorry's empty, right?
As in you have your trailer on.
Yeah, but nothing's in the back.
But nothing's in the back.
That must be relatively quick, but you've still got a trailer.
But when you see them and they're just...
It's just cab or whatever you call it.
It's just the lorry in its purest form.
In the speciale superlegere form.
Surely that is an unbelievably noticeable...
There's not many other times in a car or...
It's not like having a boot full of shopping.
I don't know. Maybe the equivalent is that, I don't know.
But surely when they have tons of crud and crap and clothes and milk and beans
or whatever it is they're transporting in their lorry,
once that is gone, they're born to roam free.
Milk and beans, that's all they carry.
If you're a lorry driver, tell me how much faster.
Do 100 to 200 run on a draggy box?
Also, how much powers do you have?
Talk is mental.
And also, one more thing.
I don't like it when I see a cab over lorry with no back on it.
It feels like when you see either a dog that usually wears a collar with no collar.
Okay, super specific, but sure.
It feels weird and also it's...
I think it looks like it'll fall over.
You're being naked in just socks.
Yeah, it's that same feeling.
Or Winnie the Poohing it, when you've only got...
Or you've got just the top on.
It's like seeing in a hospital gown when you can see a ass in the back.
That's actually exactly what it is.
Because usually you don't look at me.
Usually they have something covering that.
It's the weirdest thing.
I get really uncomfortable.
But also, why is it not falling over?
Yeah, exactly.
It's a privilege, isn't it?
No, I was with someone that said that the other day, but because it's a cab over,
all of the weight is along the bottom in the correct angle.
So the cab is just laying around on top.
There's not much weight in that.
So their center of gravity must actually be very low.
You must be able to really feel the turning.
Just really hit the region where you want it.
What are we talking about?
The truck?
We're talking about when we've lost track and something.
Ben was on the bottom bunk.
Yeah.
Truckers will let us know in the comments.
A very quick flashback to earlier in the episode.
I asked AI to render me an F8 Tributo with only two rear lights.
Now, this is one for the visual viewers.
Yeah, but I'll put it up on the screen.
Okay.
Does that actually look...
Do you know what, Ben?
I thought I was doing this as a ha-ha told you, got you.
It's actually kind of good.
Here it is.
That's so much better.
That's kind of cool.
I will say that that is better.
What it is, is an F8 Tributo with its inner rear lights removed,
so it's more 408.
I think I'm still on board with just the normal one,
but you don't want what this is crying out for.
15, 20 years time when the prices have got cheap on the F8s,
there's going to be, and what we've done is we've taken the F8,
the design, the technology of the new car, and we've rest-o-modded it,
made it look like that iconic, that timeless 458 that we all know and love,
the prices on them have gone to the moon,
but the turbocharged F8, you can pick up for a pittance.
I would...
Yeah.
You like that?
Oh, yeah.
I'm an enjoyer of that.
It's got Lotus Amira vibes over the rear reporter.
It is interesting.
Now, I've chucked it through AI, so it might be...
They might have changed all proportions on stuff,
but you know what?
I think it's kind of cool.
That's really nice.
I was expecting to have a gotcha moment.
I will, for the audio listeners, we'll send that, and it will be an overlay.
It's a F8.
Here we go.
With two less lights.
That's quite, yeah, no right definition.
If you can't bother to watch.
Now, Edwin, you put in here, all good wheels are after-market.
We, people on the slide, went last week, I don't know if he talks about this,
to DK Engineering.
Very, very cool, actually.
It's something that should have brought back a little bit of a rule to my ruin.
Will, not me, actually, got invited to...
No, we think we both got invited.
Did we?
I don't know.
I thought it was to you, and then you got a message.
I got a message, I added you.
Well, sorry.
You were plus one.
I was plus one.
Did offer it to Ben, and he said no.
No, no.
No, don't even.
No, but I came into work, and they said we're going to...
Then cut his mic off.
So, what happened was we will got invited.
He offered it to both of us.
I said yes.
Ben did not.
Brackets, he wasn't being paid, so that's what he didn't have.
So, I...
It was 35 degrees.
I was wearing jogger shorts and merch, and you said,
do you want to come to D.K. Engineering?
You're a sweaty state.
And I was like, no, I can't.
I said it exactly like that, too.
If you told me, like, you know, with any kind of warning,
I could have bought a nice linen shirt to wear.
Well, so Will and I went to D.K. Engineering.
The ride there was interesting.
Revuelto and Tuscany, I regretted my life with the Rift Down,
and 37-degree heat.
But anyway, we went to D.K.
They had like a kind of a mini concourse type beat,
and they had the doors open so we could look around,
and we were, boy, were we looking around.
Oh, God.
But we were looking at...
What car was it?
I can't remember now.
They were...
We were looking at a 288 GTI on a ramp.
Exactly.
And they have speed line, like split rims.
And I've realised that all cool wheels that are made from
manufacturers that are on OEM cars,
are because they go to aftermarket companies to make them.
They go to a speed line, they go to an OZ, they go to a whoever.
Now, granted, most wheels aren't actually made by the manufacturer.
Like a Volkswagen wheel is probably not made by VW.
They go to a wheel manufacturer like Ronal or someone,
or PBS back in the day, and say,
can you make this design?
But a lot of times, when they're developing like a race car,
or a cool or a rare car,
they collaborate with that company and say,
can you use your racing wheel technology to build us a wheel for this car?
So, for instance, the 288, if you look at a 328 wheel,
it's just a cast normal wheel for cost and whatever.
Whereas a 288 GTO has like a split rim race car wheel.
But it's always...
Anytime they do a clav, it's cool.
It's also when they're allowed to brand it as a
aftermarket wheel a bit more, where it's called a speed line.
It's called a BBS rather than going full manufacturer.
It always tends to be a little bit better.
But yeah, you're right.
There are a lot of wheels are.
Was it the 46M3, the 19s that you always see there?
They are a Fox wheel.
I'm pretty sure.
Which one?
The 19 inch.
Oh, on a 46M3.
That is a Fox wheel.
So, Fox make that.
But you would never know that outside of anyone else.
And then there's so many things like that.
The CSL wheel.
I don't know how many wheels are actually just made by the manufacturer.
The CSL wheel.
It's a BBS.
It's stamped on it.
BBS, a little, I can't remember the number.
But they're all just cool.
It's whenever they go, you make something.
Do you make us something?
It's not a speed line.
Speed line out there on that shit.
I, you know, speed line, OZ, BBS.
Those are the three big European guys.
I'm a big fan of.
Anytime you're doing a split room in an OEM car,
you're probably doing it right.
It's nice.
Yeah.
Even exhaust, actually.
I remember hearing that.
Back when we were at Carthrow,
we used to do lots of videos about like factories
and how they make stuff and that kind of thing.
And there's a few who can't actually say the brands,
because we weren't even meant to say then.
There are brands who make well-known exhaust manufacturers
and they make exhausts for Bentley and whoever else,
but they never say that that's who it was.
It's not stamped on any of the exhausts.
They're just the people who make it.
So they do a lot.
There's a lot of outsourcing from these companies,
which makes sense.
But if you made anything in the house, it would take a long time.
Shout out aftermarket wheels.
Got to be my favorite thing in the world.
Ben, news.
I expect you to come prepared with this one.
Here it comes.
You've told us here.
Here comes the phone from the pocket.
And it is strong.
Polestar banned in the US.
Don't just say that again.
Don't repeat it.
Indeed.
Polestar have been banned in the US.
Bloody hell, I wasn't expecting that.
So essentially, it comes down to two things.
They've been banned.
They've been banned and the location is the US.
Okay, cool.
No, they don't sell very many cars in the US.
Right.
Okay.
So they sell many cars in Europe?
Yeah, I think they do sell quite a few.
We see them everywhere.
Hard-hitting facts from Ben.
Yeah, probably.
Basically, the US, hang on, I have it here.
They've banned Polestar.
God, saying quite different ways to word the same story.
The Department of Commerce has revoked their authorization to sell
under the US connected vehicle law.
Okay.
They don't sell very many cars at one point.
The main thing though is that it's to do with the US banning cars made in China
or associated with China or Russia.
Right.
And it's obviously Polestar is owned by Geely who also own Volvo.
And they share some design DNA and that's Chinese company.
So they're banned because of that.
The interesting thing is that as far as I'm aware,
the Polestar 3 is built in America.
Oh, interesting.
So they're going to build them in the US,
but they just shift them out of the US because
they can't sell them in the US anymore.
So it's from next year.
That's like our G.R. Corollers then.
That's a taste of their medicine.
They're built here?
Built in, right?
They're built in North Swindon now.
It's, I can't remember, someone commented it before,
but they're built in the UK and then they go off to America and we can't have them.
So that's that's, yeah.
So then we're going to get a Polestar.
Banned.
Banned.
Well, as in you can't sell them.
Illegal.
Yeah.
Banned.
Yeah.
Prison.
Prison.
Prison for the Polstars.
German prison.
Polstars will now be in an American prison.
Yeah.
So I thought that's quite interesting that they've,
that they've just been banned in America.
God, I might just stop doing you.
God, I don't think you should do it then.
I don't think we've missed much.
We would have done exactly the same amount.
We'd lose entertainment.
And what are people going to do that get their news from here?
Normal news is boring.
Yeah.
So you might as well spice it up a bit by doing it three weeks too late and a little bit wrong.
Tea, hair, cream, cream motto.
Revuelto Jaypre is the next thing I like to talk about.
So I had the Revuelto since last Thursday.
It is now Monday.
Handed it back this morning.
So over the weekend I used it.
And now it was silver that car.
So it's relatively subtle in terms of color.
But it is a Revuelto.
Absolutely.
So it sticks out like more than a sore thumb.
Like quite a painful sore thumb actually.
So it gets quite a lot of attention.
And I managed to host a somewhat impromptu car meet at the weekend.
So there's a little lay by I know near me where I might pull over to take some pictures or whatever.
It's normally empty and it was empty.
So I pulled in.
Lovely day.
I pulled in and then a Mercedes pulled in.
It drove past me actually and then turned around and came back.
And it was a mum and her son and they pulled up and were like,
can I take a picture of the car?
I was like, yeah.
I let him sit in it and he revved it.
It was actually really nice.
And then two more cars pulled up.
And I thought maybe they just pulled up to stand there or to do whatever.
To sit in a lay by.
No.
They all got out of their cars and perhaps another five or six people walked over and were like,
can we take pictures of the car?
Can I sit in it?
And then I had a queue of people saying, can I sit in it?
Can I rev it?
And they're all taking pictures, taking pictures of each other.
I was like, now I'm all for sharing this car.
And actually one of the things I wanted to do over the weekend and since having it is
share it with absolutely everyone.
Because no one ever gets a chance to see these cars or sit in them or
experience them or even just see them out on the road.
So as many people as can see it as possible.
But I was stretching that slightly too far by having, I thought, do I start to stand?
Do I need to get a sandwich board?
Do you charge for this?
Well, what goes on?
But it was quite cool to be fair because again,
all of these people really have to see it.
And then I was just about to leave and then another car pulled up.
I was like, do you mind if I take a picture with my son?
Turns out there was a car show 10 minutes down the road.
So lots of people were returning from that.
Saw the world tour.
And I was like, little bonus.
Well, there's a, it's like Montreal Car Week, you know, bucking in the shit.
And then another, another one I wanted to talk about actually,
there was a creamer near me who works in a restaurant,
an Italian restaurant, which is quite lovely actually.
And I've met him a couple of times and he was very,
very professional the first time I met him,
where he didn't say anything at all.
He was very repressional, very, very good at his job.
And then right at the end, when I was paying the bill,
he said, congratulations on the Lamborghini, by the way.
Because I had no idea that.
Very cool.
So every time I've gone back there, I've chatted to him.
And the last time I went in there over the weekend and I had the Roberto and I said,
I have the Roberto, do you want to see it?
And I showed him it outside and he sat in it and everything.
And I thought it was like eight o'clock, I think.
And by the time I left, it was like 8.45.
I said to him when I left, I was like, you know what?
Again, I want people to experience this.
I was like, when do you finish?
He was like, 11.
I was like, okay, here's a little bit late.
But it's fine.
So I went home and I came back and I took him out in it.
And it was just great.
Because he was like, he listened to the podcast.
His name was Lewis.
So if you're listening, shout out Lewis.
Shout out Lewis.
Creamer of the week.
Creamer of the week.
Not a creamer of the week.
But he was very, very happy.
Has a Volvo Polestar, I think.
We can't take it to the America.
Do not go to Matthew Legal.
You can be put in German prison.
But my girlfriend encouraged me because I was like,
should I go back as I did?
Should I do that?
Is that weird to do that?
She's like, yeah.
Now she took him out in it.
Now out of interest, what did your girlfriend think of it?
She really hated that.
She loved the way she thought it looks kind of cool.
But cars like that are completely lost and the acceleration, not.
Not happy.
Not a fan of that at all.
My grandmother loved it.
My girlfriend, not so much.
Funnily enough, on Friday when you had the car,
there was a meeting of everyone.
Everyone seemed to turn up to drop things up and pick things up.
So firstly, my girlfriend arrived and quite famously,
I sent her out in your GTR with you when you had it,
which was how much?
700?
750 horsepower.
I was expecting her to be like, what the hell?
She went out and she went, it wasn't that fast.
And I berated.
I was like, what are you talking about?
You'll never go in in anything that fast in your life.
So when she got here, I was like, you've got to go out in that car.
Because I want, I need you to be scared of some sort of car.
And when she came back, she went, no, that's too fast.
Yeah, it was ridiculous.
And I said, did you, did you actually like enjoy it?
She went, I closed my eyes.
It was too fast.
I closed my eyes.
I think everyone got a lot in control.
Everyone.
I'm very sorry.
Also, I didn't because remember it didn't work.
He said, it said thrust mode, not possible just for Edwin.
So that's a shame.
I can't believe it.
But I mean, the launch control in that car is unbelievable.
But yeah, the amount of launches, I don't know,
maybe there's something in the small print.
I should have looked up and said, please do not do that.
But also just, just a big thank you to Lampini.
For legal reasons, we didn't launch.
It wasn't, it was just from a dig.
It was rolled into it.
A 30 year old winner thing.
But yeah, that was very cool.
So video you'll see on that.
But yeah, we didn't film everyone's reaction, but Trevor went out in it.
No, that's funny.
Took Trevor out in it and he played it cool.
Yeah.
He played it pretty cool.
We've seen the footage.
He was like, yeah, it's fine.
But he was, yeah, he was, I didn't think he'd like it.
The fastest car he's ever been in was a Tuscan race car.
He was like, okay, that's a fast car.
But oh boy, you're about to fill this.
Because some of the people I've taken out,
like they've been in around cars.
So they've been in fast stuff.
Yeah.
So even if you've been in a GTR or something,
the gulf is smaller.
But if you've never been in a car like that, it's mind-altering.
Also, shout out Lampini Press for trusting us with it.
But also, any other press companies, you will see from this,
our aim is to genuinely share it with as many people as possible.
Because if we, oh, interesting, we will share the money with ourselves.
That is what we'll do with them.
We'll share the money with ourselves and the experiences with you guys.
And Daniel Craig, he will share colleagues in us.
We can't do the journalist thing.
Where we get, you know, isn't this just the finance dawn?
I'm turning and I can feel the toe in the front end.
I do feel the rear end bite on the event doors a little bit better.
But you know, the Revolta really makes up with a thousand horsepower.
But we can, meanwhile, what we can do is take 15 people out.
Yeah, okay.
Do you want to do a launch control?
Now, to end, we've got a tough one.
We have news.
And news that's, it's fresh.
Can I tell it?
Now, please you tell it.
And I'd just like you to read the first email that you received
and then the subsequent email.
Okay, so we are going.
It's a Monterey car week.
Everyone has gone.
And they've all turned off the podcast.
Shut up.
The quail.
Of course.
It's been a topic of conversation.
If you don't know what the quail is, it is the event at Monterey.
They announced big cars, conics, eggs, all these things.
Only big cars.
These guys have always wanted to go.
Since they went to Monterey for the first time years ago.
And we've been trying our best to ask anyone we know to get tickets.
Very exclusive cost thousands to get a ticket.
So we will apply for media.
Now, famously in the podcast, these two didn't hear back.
But I, for some reason, got given a media pass.
Sorry, I heard back, but was asked to provide proof.
Oh, apologies.
Where is it?
Where is Ben?
Ben was just accepted.
Approved.
Ben just said that you're in.
Yeah.
Ben saw a picture of his balance.
They went, how many cars are you buying?
Of course.
Cool, a potential customer.
All right.
Let you in.
Are you flying in?
We had an email and I'm going to tell you the time of this
because it was a toughie.
So basically after that podcast, we'll send an email with a letter saying,
I'm with that.
I'm with Benjamin Rodgers for this come for this.
Sorry.
But that works too.
No.
And then I sent an application saying, I'm with these two guys.
So we're all together.
Let's just.
So they've received three applications from three people that worked for
Top Dead Center as a thing.
So this email was about six o'clock on Friday night.
So, you know, they should be at the office.
By the way, were you on the sofa?
Could we get some more context?
I'm actually sat in the little office over there.
Important footage.
You guys were outside just socializing with people that were here.
Okay.
Lovely.
Well, you were driving around the gear of what?
It's got to be salivating.
It was during when Edwin, when Will took your girlfriend out in Toronto.
So from this lady that we've never spoken to before,
hello, we appreciate your interest in attending the quail by the peninsula
and those sports gathering.
We receive a high number of.
Bad start.
Already bad start.
Would you hear that?
Yeah.
I was like, that's odd because I've been approved.
So while you're emailing me, we receive a high volume of media credential
applications and have limited availability.
I was like, no, I thought they're going to reject.
Like withdraw it for something.
Reject.
As a result, we can only offer Top Dead Center to media.
Please confirm which applicants you would like the credentials to be approved for.
We receive applications for Mr.
Klingford Evans, Mr. Chandler and Mr. Rogers.
Please let us know if you have any questions.
I do.
What and why?
So I responded.
Will we get our three advice?
So basically, I then said to these guys, listen,
there's absolutely no reason for me to go.
You are literally the face of the channel.
Why would I be there?
So we're not the money of the channel.
So well, but listen, we don't have to spend.
I'd love to go, but I'll fall on my sword.
So you guys can go bearing in mind the fact that on that day,
I can't drive the car that we're renting.
Nope.
I can't get anywhere and I'll be on my own.
Yeah.
I can't even do my job, which is filming.
So great.
You'll be walking around.
I'm just going to be on foot loose in Monterey.
We get, we get Peter's government pick you up.
Why don't we drop you at the golf course?
Trander.
No.
Oh, Peter, from America.
Sorry, apologies.
How dare you forget Peter?
No, I don't forget Peter.
It's Trander.
That's what I was going to be.
He'd be in another green, wouldn't he?
Obviously.
Of course, why not?
He's got to check on the gardener's investment.
So the, the, the issue here is, well, Will and I said,
we don't want to do the quail without Ben.
Yeah, but you should.
No, but that's, I would though.
I'm just putting it out there.
I would do it.
Like if push became nudge.
Everyone said to me genuinely, listen,
I actually don't want to do it without you.
Like, blah, blah, blah.
And Will just was like, yeah, man.
Fantastic. Ben's having a fantastic day yet.
Chuck E. Cheese.
Let's drop him off, folks.
I'm getting Blake Sandlock to come pick me up.
So, yeah, so I, you know what?
I have a, um, a conspiracy.
That the, the person involved with that email is a crema.
And she just wants, she wants the content.
Yeah.
She's thinking, right.
Drama alert.
This will be funny on the podcast.
Yeah.
Because no way you say only two of three.
Come on.
It's too perfect after we've just explained
that there's only one of us is getting him.
Now just two are getting him.
It's too perfect.
She has to be, she's in on it.
She has to be in on it.
So obviously, obviously it's you guys.
But it's not, it makes sense, but also I would,
I couldn't take that from you.
It's been years of you wanting to go.
So, so...
Thanks, man.
Yeah, I'll accept.
No, I'll accept.
Don't worry about it.
Hey, man, who got the email?
My other thought, I could say, but yeah.
My other thought is that we instead get two random people
off the street and send them in on our behalf,
wearing a secret, what do you call it?
Video gear to capture and we only show what they capture.
Because I thought if only us go in, now we're there under media,
but how do we film if our videographer's not there?
That was kind of a genuine thing.
Did you make a case to them?
Would you like me to read the email back?
Yes, if you could.
Because I basically begged them.
You've been, you were very professional.
How much of it was chat GPT?
Spelling.
Okay.
Because I didn't want to mess it up,
but the actual email is me.
Hi.
I'll read your name.
I pressed send.
I'll write your name.
Thanks for getting back to us.
Will and Edwin are going to attend
using the two media credentials that you've offered.
Well, see, put us forward.
However.
Thanks, man.
There is a however.
If there is any possibility of a third credential,
we would really appreciate your consideration.
The quail is what we believe to be the pinnacle event of Monterey Car Week.
And we are hoping to make it a key part.
There's the butter.
A key part of our YouTube coverage.
Our aim is to capture both the event itself
and will slash Edwin's experience throughout the day.
As attending the quail has been something
they've wanted to do for a very long time.
Will slash Edwin.
Or Edwin.
I guess and.
I missed.
See?
Yeah, that's why I chose this project.
Either or.
Did you mention that you are a videographer?
Just.
All right.
Sorry.
Carry on.
Now hold on.
Chapters.
And hold on.
It didn't originally.
I had to tell Vendor for that.
No.
No, you didn't want to take something out.
Yeah.
No.
But it was you saying quite vaguely
that you weren't the videographer.
No, I said I was.
I angled it more.
No.
I would just like to go.
I angled it as producer.
Then you said if it's something to do with it,
if it's a videographer,
they're more likely to let you out.
Yeah.
I said I would be attending as their videographer
and producer without myself in attendance.
The quality and scope of what we're able to produce
would be reduced compared to the standard
we typically aim to deliver.
Meanwhile, them going on the channel
and watching us drive a ninky-nunk
under the roundabouts in Bracknell.
Best regards.
Benjamin Rogers, head of production there.
Oh, lovely.
Then going down to the podcast
where we described how we would get into the quail.
And it would be with a very long jacket
with all of us on each other's shoulders.
Three minutes trench coat or dressing up
as Christian Von Koenigsegg.
And do you want to know what she said back?
She's replied.
No, she has probably looked that and gone,
I don't care.
I'll just approve.
I think that sounded professional.
Yep.
It sounded unlike anything you've ever said.
Ben, it's only Monday.
And right now in California,
it's probably like three in the afternoon.
So it's still time.
She really had six hours.
Yeah.
Did you send it two days ago though?
I sent it on Friday.
So she should be first thing at the mall.
Also, I sent it at six o'clock in the evening.
The hour time is 10 a.m.
She probably has early Fridays off, you know.
Probably.
I know it's Monday and you've got to do catch up.
Exactly.
Tuesday.
Midweek.
Midweek.
So the saga continues.
By the Nurburgring.
At the Nurburgring, we will get confirmation.
That's my prediction.
And you know what?
Just to...
Why are you such a gambler?
I bet.
No, I don't want to.
No, why am I...
This is a positive thing for all of us.
Make the bet correct for cream, please.
By the sunset on Friday at the Nurburgring.
Okay.
By the sunset of the German eve.
Yeah.
About 9 o'clock.
Barbarians dawn, please.
I think we will all be going.
Or we won't.
And me and Edwin will go.
I think there's going to be a twist again.
I think there'll be four tickets.
And we'll have to bring someone else.
I suggested to Ben that if Ben cannot come under us, with us, under our umbrella,
our top dead center, we will send you with someone else.
Yeah.
So if someone else we know is going to the quail and there's only one of them,
and they're already saying, well, we can only give you two,
let us send Ben.
Ben of Evo Magazine.
Or Top Gear.
Or Smith and the Snakes.
Brackets.
Same issues.
Still two.
The thing is, the only thing I'm holding out is that maybe they shouldn't have enough context.
Because if we all applied being like, we're part of this,
she might be like, well...
Ben, hold on.
Hold the phone.
Like, you're not, I'm not a presenter or anything.
Hold on, hold on.
But hang on, I did also fill out an entire piece of like form that said who I was,
and what my role was, and where I would be there.
Hold the phone.
Yeah.
What if, instead of going there for top dead center, Benjamin Rogers,
a different Benjamin Rogers, was going for the cream podcast,
the most listened to automotive podcast in the UK.
In the world.
That's a lie.
Probably up there somewhere.
But you couldn't, they can't prove it.
I would like to not put them in the direction of the podcast.
Why?
Considering the talks about...
Well, you mean they're back to episode 81, minute 32.
Find that.
Exactly.
Which is exactly where we talked about Christian Vodigse.
That's what would rule out.
I don't think we should draw it.
Also, if I do that like this week, they'll go,
they'll probably get to it next week when this goes out,
and then they'll see this entire conversation with the plan.
And go, all right, they're in the main frame.
But I would imply they've listened to the entire podcast,
which would be fantastic retention.
So basically, we have just over a week to get approved
before they might figure it out.
So, you know what, Ben, if you want to take the PJ over and just sort it out,
that'd be great.
I'm going to go to In-N-Out Burger.
Okay, perfect.
I think there's plenty for you to do.
We're happy to go.
If we do it, can you choose what I do for the day?
Oh, sure.
We'll give you an itinerary.
You will give us things that we need to get while in the quail,
because things that you want to see or to see done.
I want a t-shirt.
We'll be doing what?
We'll be caviar, we'll be, you know, speaking to Christian.
Sun-maving.
Can you give me a t-shirt, please?
Sun-maving.
Not that kind of event, for sure.
We can get a t-shirt.
I'll pay for it.
You just get it.
Of course you will.
Well, no, I'm not saying can you buy me a t-shirt.
I'm saying whatever.
They'll say all three t-shirts, by the way.
We will update you with our progress on the quail, as always.
Thank you very much for listening to this episode.
Episode 90, 10 away from the big centennial.
Cream.
Double digits.
Cream it.
And cream it.
Let me in.
Three wise men who went to the quail.
Brackets, two of us.
About this episode
The crew juggles real-world car prep and Nürburgring nerves: Ben’s rattly TDI gets its belt system refreshed, while the team’s Fiesta ST “temporary steed” arrives with minor rear damage and mismatched panels after a quick, tight-schedule purchase. Will vents about BMW M3 exhaust hardware chaos and missing gaskets ahead of the trip. Rory celebrates a Mercedes-Benz logo on the road after a long-dormant revival, though a possible damper/PTU noise is worrying. The week’s highlight is a short Revolto loan, sparking debate over modern Lamborghini madness versus the Mercilago.
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