C.R.E.A.M. #91 - Ben Bought a Car, Live Chicken On The M25 and Flat 8 Engines

C.R.E.A.M. #91 - Ben Bought a Car, Live Chicken On The M25 and Flat 8 Engines C.R.E.A.M. (The TDC Podcast) · Jul 16, 2026

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Term

recharge air con

“Recharge air con” means adding refrigerant to the car’s air-conditioning system. If it keeps needing recharging, there may be a leak somewhere.

Place

Santa Pod

Santa Pod is a UK drag strip. People go there to race cars in a straight line and see how fast they accelerate.

Place

Nurburgring

The Nürburgring is a famous race track in Germany. It’s the kind of place car people talk about because it’s challenging and well known for testing cars.

Term

CV boot grease

It’s the special grease used in a car’s drive-joint. That grease sits inside a rubber cover (a boot), and if the cover gets damaged, the grease can leak out and look scary—like oil.

Term

drive shafts

The drive shaft is the part that sends power from the gearbox to the wheels. If something on that system is damaged, the car can lose drive or start making a mess of fluids.

Term

timing belt

A timing belt is a belt inside the engine that keeps the engine’s moving parts lined up. If it fails, the engine can be badly damaged, so it’s a big deal.

Car

The BMW 1 Series is a smaller BMW car designed for easier driving and parking than bigger models. The 130i is a performance version with a stronger engine. People talk about it because it can feel sporty, including how it rides over bumps.

Car

Renault Megane E-Tech

The Renault Megane E-Tech is an electric car version of the Megane. Instead of using fuel, it runs on a battery and an electric motor. The conversation about air conditioning is about how comfortable it is to live with day to day.

Term

AC

“AC” is the car’s air conditioning. It cools the cabin, but for a track car some people delete it because it adds extra stuff and weight, and it’s not as important on track days.

Term

coolant

Coolant is the fluid that carries heat away from the engine to prevent overheating. “Ate a lot of coolant” suggests a leak or failure that caused the system to lose fluid repeatedly, which can quickly lead to overheating and engine damage if not addressed.

Term

limp mode

Limp mode is when the car intentionally reduces power to protect the engine. It usually happens because the car detected a problem with a sensor or system and wants you to drive carefully to get it checked.

Term

air pipe

An air pipe is the tube that carries air into the engine. If it’s not sealed or fitted properly, the car’s sensors can get the wrong information and the car may go into limp mode.

Term

sensors

A sensor is a small part that measures conditions for the car’s computer. If something is bypassing or messing with the sensor, the computer may think there’s a problem and limit power.

Concept

crashed damaged

“Crashed damaged” means the car has had an accident and was repaired afterward. Multiple accidents can sometimes lead to hidden problems even if it looks fine.

Term

car vertical report

A CarVertical report is like a “history check” for a used car. It can show things such as whether the car has been reported as having accidents.

Term

written off

“Written off” means the car was considered a total loss by an insurance company. That usually happens when fixing it would cost more than the car is worth.

Term

assessment

An “assessment” is the evaluation step after a car is damaged. It’s when the insurer decides what the next outcome is—like whether it can be repaired or treated as a total loss.

Car

Renault Sport

The Renault Sport Spider is a Renault sports roadster, meaning it’s a smaller, open-top style car meant for fun driving. It’s part of Renault’s sport-themed lineup. People mention it when talking about Renault’s more enthusiast-focused models.

Car

Dodge Road Runner

The Dodge Road Runner is a muscle car, meaning it’s built for strong acceleration. It’s known for a performance-focused character and a loud, sporty image. People mention it when they want to talk about fast, classic American cars.

Part

Quaife Diff

A “Quaife Diff” is a special type of differential (the part that sends power to the wheels). It helps the car keep traction better, especially when the road is slippery or one wheel loses grip.

Part

rebuilt gearbox

A rebuilt gearbox means the car’s transmission was opened up and repaired. It usually happens when something inside wore out or broke, and the goal is to make it work properly again.

Part

belts done

“Belts done” means the car’s belts have been replaced. Belts help run important engine components, and replacing them on time helps avoid breakdowns.

Part

refurb wheels

Refurb wheels are wheels that have been repaired and refinished. It’s basically a “make them look good again” process, sometimes after curb scuffs.

Part

new tyres

New tyres are fresh tires on the car. They usually improve grip and braking and mean you won’t need to replace tires right away.

Term

liquid yellow

“Liquid yellow” is the name of the car’s yellow paint color. Some paint finishes are more costly than basic colors, so it can affect the overall price.

Term

mods

“Mods” just means upgrades or changes people add to a car after it leaves the factory. Depending on what’s changed, it can make the car faster or more unique—and usually more expensive too.

Term

10 grand

“10 grand” is just a casual way of saying around ten thousand pounds. They’re using it to estimate the car’s price after modifications.

Term

tuned

“Tuned” means the car’s settings are adjusted so it runs properly with the upgrades. It can make the car feel smoother and respond better when you drive it.

Place

the Ring

“The ring” usually means the Nürburgring, a very famous race track in Germany. People use it to judge how good a car is because it’s tough and twisty.

Term

wheel wobble

Wheel wobble is when the wheel doesn’t spin smoothly and you feel a shaking or vibration. It can be caused by a damaged wheel or tires that aren’t balanced correctly.

Place

Vulcan Alpha

Vulcan Alpha is where they worked on the car before going to the track. It sounds like a workshop/garage setup where they could lift the car and do repairs.

Term

balanced

Balancing is when a shop adds small weights to the wheel so it spins evenly. If it’s not balanced, you can get vibrations at highway speeds.

Term

rev limiter

The rev limiter is a safety system that stops the engine from spinning too fast. If you hit it, the car won’t let the RPM keep climbing, which helps protect the engine.

Company

Hack Engineering

Hack Engineering sounds like a car shop or tuning workshop. They’re saying they’ll talk to that shop to sort out what went wrong.

Part

cream calipers

Calipers are part of the brakes that squeeze the brake pads to stop the car. “Cream calipers” here is mainly about the look—having the brake parts painted a light color so they look cool behind the wheels.

Car

Porsche 996

“Porsche 996” means a specific generation of the Porsche 911. It’s basically the “996-era” 911, and people talk about it a lot because it’s a recognizable step in the 911’s evolution.

Car

BMW M3

The BMW M3 is BMW’s high-performance version of the 3 Series. Here, they’re saying they don’t want to use it as a full-time track car, so they can keep it for normal use.

Car

Clio

A Clio is a small Renault hatchback. They’re using it as a practical car for their girlfriend to learn in, and they’re getting it fixed up with parts so it can be driven again.

Term

engine's come out

This phrase means the engine had to be removed from the car. That usually happens when the problem is serious or difficult to fix without taking the engine out.

Car

Will's 130i

This is a BMW 1 Series 130i. It’s a smaller BMW that’s known for being fun to drive, and here it’s the car Will is in while they’re traveling.

Place

M 25

The M25 is a big UK motorway that goes around London. It’s the kind of road people use for longer trips and busy traffic.

Car

Neuer Class

“Neue Klasse” is BMW’s plan for a new generation of car design and engineering. It’s not a single car model by itself—it’s more like the foundation future cars will be built on. The podcast is likely discussing when that new platform is expected to arrive.

Car

X5

The BMW X5 is a luxury SUV that’s meant to feel more “sporty” than a typical family car. Here, they’re talking about how the headlights and styling look on the X5.

Car

X5M

BMW X5M is the fast, performance-focused version of the X5. They’re saying the regular X5 doesn’t look great to them, but the X5M looks better.

Car

McLaren W1

The McLaren W1 is a modern McLaren hypercar, built around the idea of maximum performance with advanced aerodynamics and a track-capable setup. The hosts specifically mention its “race mode,” implying it has configurable driving behavior for more aggressive driving.

Term

race mode

Race mode is a button or setting that makes a car act more “track-focused.” It usually makes the throttle and driving controls more aggressive so the car responds faster when you push it.

Car

McLaren 788HS

McLaren is a British supercar brand, and “McLaren 788HS” is a special version of one of their cars. In this segment, they’re talking about what the “HS” name means and that it’s meant to be a rare, track-focused build.

Term

Mansori

Mansory is a company that customizes supercars with very flashy, aggressive styling. When someone says a car “looks Mansory,” they usually mean it looks heavily modified and a bit overdone.

Car

675 LT

The “675 LT” is a McLaren supercar variant. The host is pointing out that its wheel design can look very extreme, and they didn’t like how it looked.

Car

McLaren 720S

The McLaren 720S is a high-end supercar from McLaren with a turbocharged V8. It’s the starting point for the more extreme versions the host is talking about.

Car

McLaren 765

The McLaren 765 is a more extreme, higher-spec version of the 720S. The host likes it because it looks and feels like the top end of that generation.

Car

McLaren 750

The McLaren 750 is another higher-spec McLaren the host mentions alongside the 765. They’re basically saying the numbers can confuse people, but these are different versions.

Term

flat-8 engine

A “flat 8” is a type of engine with eight cylinders laid out in a sideways “V” shape. It’s often used in performance cars because it can fit well and help the car handle nicely.

Term

flat eight

A “flat eight” means an engine with eight cylinders arranged in a sideways “box” shape. It’s a layout often found in premium sports cars, and it can help the engine sit lower in the car.

Car

Cadillac V16

The Cadillac V16 is an old Cadillac model known for having a very large V16 engine. It was built to be extremely powerful and luxurious for its time. People bring it up because it’s a rare, impressive piece of car history.

Car

Bugatti V16

A “V16” is an engine with 16 cylinders arranged in a V shape. The host is saying the car they heard had a similar kind of dramatic sound to a Bugatti V16.

Term

turbo noises

“Turbo noises” are the sounds you hear from a turbocharger. They often show up when you accelerate and the turbo spools up.

Term

flat engines

A “flat engine” is one where the cylinders sit in two sides, like a book opened flat. Because of that shape, it can feel smoother and often sounds different than a typical V8 or inline engine.

Person

Paul Shaw

Paul Shaw is mentioned as a person connected to making or working on flat engines. In this conversation, he’s brought up as an example of someone who’s involved in that niche.

Brand

Ferrari

Ferrari is a famous supercar brand. The host mentions it because Ferrari is one of the brands people associate with exotic engine designs, even if this specific “flat engine” claim isn’t a perfect fit.

Term

flat 12

A “flat 12” is a very rare kind of engine with 12 cylinders arranged in two flat rows on opposite sides. It’s the kind of layout people associate with exotic cars, but not many modern engines use it.

Term

flat crank pin

A “crank pin” is part of the engine’s crankshaft that the connecting rods attach to. Saying “flat crank pin” points to a specific crankshaft geometry that can change how the engine runs and sounds.

Term

V8

A V8 engine has eight cylinders arranged in a V shape. It’s a popular setup in faster cars because it can make strong power.

Term

downpipe whistle

“Downpipe whistle” refers to a high-pitched sound that can come from the exhaust system right after the turbo, often influenced by exhaust routing, flow, and any leaks or design features. Enthusiasts sometimes associate it with turbocharged cars because the exhaust pulses are strong there.

Car

Porsche Man

Term

body kit

A body kit is extra parts added to a car to change how it looks. It often makes the car look wider or more aggressive, which is what they’re talking about here.

Term

1987

1987 is mentioned as the year that version came out. Car people use years like this to figure out exactly which version of a model they’re looking at.

Term

DLS

“DLS” here isn’t a normal car word—it’s a shorthand nickname for a particular version of a car. The hosts talk about it like it’s a specific trim/variant they can point to and compare.

Term

back date

A “back date” is when someone modifies a newer car to make it look like an older one. It’s basically styling it to match a past time period.

Term

G-body

“G-body” is a nickname for a particular older car platform used by General Motors. People use it to describe the general look and proportions of cars from that era.

Brand

MG

MG is a car brand from the UK. The hosts are talking about something new MG has shown and confirming it’s the English company.

Concept

concertina type thing

A concept car is a design study that previews styling, technology, or future direction, but it may not be the exact production vehicle. Hosts often describe early reveals as “concept” when the details are still tentative.

Term

EV

An electric car runs on electricity from a battery instead of petrol. You charge it using a plug, and when you slow down it can reuse some energy.

Place

Goodwood

Goodwood is a famous UK venue where car makers show off new cars. It’s especially known for big car events and launches.

Term

R50

R50 is a code name people use for a particular Mini version/generation. They’re using it to refer to the specific Mini design they’re comparing against.

Term

electric car market

“Electric market” just means the world of electric cars. They’re saying the price they heard would put it toward the cheaper end of electric cars.

Term

four door or a five door

“Four door” and “five door” describe hatchback/body configurations where there are four or five openings to the cabin (typically 2 front doors plus 2 or 3 rear doors). In car talk, this is often used to distinguish practical family-oriented layouts from smaller or more compact body styles.

Company

Lanzanti

Lanzanti is a company that takes very expensive, track-focused cars and helps turn them into street-legal versions. The hosts are basically saying they do custom “make it road legal” conversions.

Car

Mclaren F1S

The McLaren F1 is a famous supercar from the 1990s that many enthusiasts consider a benchmark. In this episode, it’s brought up as part of Lanzanti’s racing background.

Car

Huayra R's

The Pagani Huayra R is the more track-oriented, hardcore version of the Huayra. The hosts are using it as an example of the kind of extreme car Lanzanti works with.

Term

MOT

MOT is the UK’s yearly check to make sure a car is safe and meets emissions rules. If it doesn’t pass, you can’t legally drive it on public roads.

Term

fog light

A fog light is an extra light on the front of a car meant to help you see better in fog or bad weather. It’s usually placed lower to avoid shining light back into the fog.

Term

tail lights

Tail lights are the rear lights that help other drivers see your car, especially at night. They’re different from the brake lights, which come on when you slow down.

Term

headlights

Headlights are the front lights that help you see the road at night. Here they’re mentioned because the car needs the right lighting to be legal to drive.

Car

Fiat 500

The Fiat 500 is a small car that’s popular for city driving. Here it’s mentioned as an example of a normal, road-legal car setup.

Car

Mercedes-Benz Aclass

The Mercedes-Benz A-Class is a small luxury car, usually a hatchback. It’s meant to be practical for daily driving while still feeling “premium.” People talk about it because there are different versions, including more performance-focused ones.

Term

torque

Torque is the engine’s twisting force. More torque generally helps the car feel quicker when you press the accelerator, especially at lower speeds.

Term

0-60

“0-60” is how fast a car goes from standing still to 60 mph. Lower time usually means the car feels quicker in everyday acceleration.

Term

horsepower

Horsepower is a number that tells you how much “pull” the engine can make. Higher horsepower usually means the car can accelerate more strongly.

Car

C63

“C63” is a Mercedes-AMG model name. It’s the sporty, high-performance version of the C-Class, and here they’re talking about a hybrid version with both a gas engine and electric motors.

Term

hybrid

A hybrid car uses two kinds of power. Usually it has a gas engine and an electric motor working together.

Term

kilowatts

Kilowatts are a way to measure how much power something can produce. Electric cars often talk in kilowatts because it’s how motor output is rated.

Term

electromagnetic flux

Electromagnetic flux is basically how strong the magnetic field is and how it moves through the motor. Motor designers care a lot about it because it determines how effectively the motor can make turning force.

Term

rotors

Rotors are the parts inside the motor that actually spin. They work with the fixed magnetic field from the stator to turn electrical energy into motion.

Term

stator

The stator is the “fixed” part of the motor that creates the magnetic field. The moving parts (rotors) interact with that field to make the motor spin.

Term

H-configuration

H-configuration is a way of stacking the motor parts so the magnetic field can be used more effectively. It’s like arranging the components in a sandwich so the motor can turn with better efficiency.

Term

tons

They’re using “tons” to talk about how heavy the car is. Heavier cars can stop differently and feel different to drive, especially around older, lighter vehicles. The point is that weight is changing over time.

Term

SUVs

SUVs are a type of car that’s usually bigger and heavier than a normal sedan. The hosts are saying more people drive these heavier cars now. They connect that to how safe it feels for older, lighter cars.

Car

Chevrolet Malibu

The Chevrolet Malibu is a common family car. Here they’re talking about how it holds up in crashes, comparing different years and how severe the damage can be.

Term

crash test

A crash test is a controlled impact used to evaluate how a vehicle protects occupants and how the structure deforms. Here, the hosts reference “Malibu versus Malibu” crash-test footage to compare how different eras of the same model handle severe collisions.

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My wheels are eggs.

I've forgotten no charge on my phone. I don't know where I am.

Is Petra Station? Can you come find me?

I could just die here in France.

I look across and a man is holding a chicken out of the window.

Hello and welcome back to the 91st Cars Rule Everything Around Me podcast with myself, Edwin.

William to my left and Benjamin Rogers.

I gave you the full government name.

At the beginning of every cream podcast, we discussed whether cars ruled or ruined everything around us.

It has been a bumper week in the bumper because of cars.

Let's start. Do you know what? Let's start with Ben.

Because there's news of it. Tell us, tell the gang what happened.

Because last time we were here, we hadn't been away.

Well, I'm still in a gentle ruin a little bit because I have no air con.

It's still 400 degrees.

So my commutes have to take this over. Surely.

This is ridiculous.

My air con in my car, right?

I have to drive home with windows open now.

So I can't enjoy any sort of podcast or anything.

So I have to sit in silence.

That's annoying.

Do you know what? Can we run it back?

Can I throw it to you first?

Because I feel like Ben's putting us on a downer.

That is a downer.

I'm getting to it.

No, we have there are bigger fish to fry.

And then we'll get to yours as a crescendo.

Also, we'll say before we get to you, you can recharge air con.

But anyway, we'll get to that.

I haven't made us get an appointment.

Oh, no. Meanwhile, anyway.

Well, we'll get you.

It's so hot.

At the beginning of this podcast, we will have some of the cars ruled or ruined.

We'll.

And today, for me, it's a roll.

Oh, that's cool. That's amazing.

Because I have been dailying the Mercy Lago for the last two days, three days.

And it hasn't had any issues, which is absolutely fantastic.

And the weather's been lovely.

We went to Santa Pod recently, did some racing with RS6.

We won't tell you if there are problems or not.

You will see that in the video.

But I regretted not taking the Mercy Lago to that shoot because the drive there was lovely.

Very nice and sunny.

The car has AC as well as the Mercy Lago has AC that works.

And I was driving in the 159.

I thought, why the hell didn't I bring this?

So I decided for while it's working, while it's here, I'm paying for it.

I might as well bloody use the thing.

So I'm going to use it as much as possible.

Take it home today.

Use it this weekend.

Hopefully use it some next week.

But any other...

Well, the whole trip is not being talked about.

Yeah.

No, I just forget about that.

Yeah.

No, I forgot about that.

It's still a roll because my recent memory is a roll.

But in the more distant memory is a white McGann that decided to break at the...

Not at the Nurburgring, near the Nurburgring.

So if you didn't listen last week, we mentioned that we were all preparing for a company getaway,

which is a very TDC company getaway.

We went to the ring.

There was 15 cars.

I think 15 or 16 cars.

29 people.

17 cars.

17.

It was.

So we all got our cars ready.

You will now have seen Benjamin's Fiesta.

That video is now out on the channel.

Indeed.

And all of our cars, they made it there.

They certainly made it there.

Your car made it back.

My car made it back under someone else's steam.

It wasn't as bad.

When I posted about it on Instagram, it was like,

classic Renault breaking.

It was kind of an unlucky one.

The Celia boot split.

It could have been to do with me doing launch controls over and over again.

It could have been to do with smashing it over curbs for six laps of the ring.

I don't know.

But other than that, that car was actually incredible.

I'm very, very pleased with it.

But it now needs a drive shaft and some arch liners and maybe a few little bits.

But other than that, it's cool.

So that car drove there, did a load of laps and then we went for a little drive afterwards

because the road surrounding the ring are amazing.

Went for a little drive there and then you have to pull over.

My mate, Will, looked under it and said,

do you know you've got engine oil pouring out of this?

And turned out it wasn't engine oil.

It was axel.

I panicked for a while because I thought, oh God, engine oil,

that's going to be a big L.

And then I looked at it, I thought it is green and sludgy.

But if it is engine oil, really bad.

But yeah, CV boot grease.

It might have made it home.

I would have been none the wiser had we not been looking at the brakes,

happened to be looking at the brakes at that point.

But had the drive shaft actually had its pants on the way home,

it would have just taken...

It's on the timing belt, orc's belt side.

Which means it's the annoying one to do.

But I mean, if it failed, it would have been a big L.

But no, that car was amazing.

I was so surprised at how good that car was.

I'd heard that they were good on the ring,

but as a track car, that car was good.

So now I've got some other modifications in mind

in the process of doing.

Yeah, that's it.

What car did you drive back?

Oh, I drove a 130i with the bouncest suspension known to man.

But I will say, it had slightly more comfortable seats than mine

and it had working AC.

I regassed the AC despite the fact that there are no appointments.

Were there none?

You couldn't have got that.

There are none.

And I found it by pure luck by Googling it

and getting the nearest slot.

But that's by the by.

And the Megane had ice-cold aircon for one day.

Now, Will came in quite smug.

And Will was like, it's got AC.

It's incredible.

It's amazing.

And then the next day, we went out in it

and he was like, it doesn't seem like it's as good.

The morning was slightly less.

And then as we got closer and closer to Germany,

just in Europe, really, just going through Belgium and France,

I just noticed it get warmer and warmer

to the point where it was just warm air coming through.

So I obviously have a leak of some sort.

But that's fine.

Because I might just delete the AC now

because I want that car to be an extreme hardcore track car.

But still rule, Ben, let's get back to you

because how was your trip?

My trip was great.

Yeah?

I was in rule.

I still am in rule.

I don't know.

I said it was only a gentle ruin, to be fair.

But yeah, I had the fiesta, drove it there.

No faults on the way there?

What did it do on the way?

Oh, yeah, no, it ate a lot of coolant.

Consistently.

And then went into limp mode as well.

And then went into limp mode.

We thought it was because there was an air pipe

that was unhappy and was bypassing a sensor.

We tightened that up.

It went into limp mode.

No, sorry.

You say you tightened it.

You tightened it up.

There was an entire Jubilee missing,

but it is a very specific Ford clip.

So we couldn't just find the Jubilee to do it.

What are we tying up with?

A zip tie.

Big mama zip tie.

I think it's completely fine.

But after that, that happened just into Belgium.

And then we drove through all of Belgium into Germany.

Then the next day did two more days of just driving around,

did two laps of the ring, and it was fine.

And then we went to a petrol station on the way home,

just slowly, gently, 30 mile an hour driving.

And it went limp mode.

I don't know about you, but all this driving around stuff

has got me hot under the collar.

And then it now will only be in limp mode.

So I just drive 500 miles back in limp mode.

Nice.

Mostly alone because I couldn't,

because these guys wouldn't wait for me.

I don't think that's true.

It's more that you wouldn't even do the speed limit at times.

Limp mode does not mean you can't get to the speed limit.

Let's not have a discussion,

because you may incriminate yourself.

No.

No, it's on the continent.

It's all legal there.

Doesn't matter.

80 mile an hour speed limit.

Ben's doing 63.

I was doing 80.

So 63 was your absolute limit.

And I don't think limp mode means you can only go 63.

Ben was on Inverse or so.

To get up to like 80, it was really tough.

No, because what happened is,

is that you'd be going like 80,

and the second that someone pulls out in front of you,

you have to slow down and then it takes you 28 minutes

to get back up to 80.

You're like a trucker.

Yeah, literally.

I mean, these guys all left me.

So I just had a nice drive on my,

actually, me and Patrick were enjoying ourselves.

And then Will called me and said,

I've got no charge on my phone.

I don't know where I am.

Is Patrick there?

Can you come find me?

I did that.

I was in panic stations.

Yeah.

How'd you call him if you had no battery?

It's true.

I literally had 5% battery,

and my booking reference for the ferry was on my phone.

And I was like,

I could just die here in France.

But Ben, you were incredibly,

you can see it in the video,

you're incredibly scared about the ring.

Very scared.

Mainly because of, you know,

you didn't want to get a rest and go to prison.

Yeah, that's true.

But more so,

and then you did your two laps,

you did your lap.

Yeah.

And you were like, I quite like that.

Yeah, that's good.

I would do another one.

Yeah.

So we went and did another one.

And then after that,

you were like, all right, I'm about this.

So I've been going through a stage of,

not I don't like cars anymore,

but I was just like,

I think everyone can tell from podcasts.

I was like, I just,

at the minute I can't do it.

It's too much stuff.

Bro's coming in going,

so real because I topped up

my washer fluid this week.

Yeah.

It's nice to have a little bit of

green light on the way in today.

But going to the ring

and doing those laps

and like being in a somewhat fun car

that was quite on quite mine.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

I could enjoy it.

It bought my hunger back.

So.

Well, well, well.

Now.

So hungry.

We call you the manipulator.

So hungry in fact.

But what did you think

we were doing this whole time

with that fiesta?

Really?

Yeah.

So and has it worked?

Well, I bought a car.

So, yeah.

It's not here yet, but

it hasn't arrived.

Shall we see what it is?

It's not just any car.

It's the return.

Back to my roots.

It's another Cleo.

Oh, but which Cleo?

It's a one.

No, it's a 200.

Oh, it's 200.

But it's got a 197 front end.

That's weird.

I've seen that somewhere.

It's a really nice spec.

It's what color is that?

Is it illiquid yellow?

Oh, has it ever been crashed damaged

for chance?

Yes, twice.

Twice.

Possibly even thrice.

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But Benjamin, it means return of

wheels, yellow, clear.

Try to tell the story of how it

came about.

So John from Cormac Motorsport,

who is the specialist that works

on your clear, your clears when

you've had them, William, as

well.

Again.

Yeah, fair.

Doesn't exist.

No fair.

I always forget all of our

Renault Sport stuff.

He messaged Will actually and

said, I've got this lovely white

clear 200 sitting around.

It needs a bit of work and he's

belt's doing it needs this, this

and this, but could be a deal to

be had.

So we enter negotiations.

Now granted.

Over dinner.

Yeah.

Over a steak dinner.

Over steak dinner.

And I'll be honest with you, we

offered.

We lobeled him.

Oh, you really hurt that man's

feelings.

Yeah, sorry, sorry.

But he came back and said, no.

No, but there was potentially

an issue.

We needed to figure it out.

But there was a, there was a fire

was lit underneath Benjamin.

And, and can we, can we admit the

fact that I didn't, I wasn't

dilly-dallying.

I said, yes.

Yeah, no, this is true.

I've never, I've never seen the

boy like it before.

He's not hanging around at all.

Will said, will tell me what it

was.

And I went, yeah, I love that.

And he said, make the man an

offer.

And I said, yes, boss.

I'll get to it right away.

And then we opened that.

Can I please eat my chips fast?

He said, no, fair.

And then, but it was fine because

it was, it was, you know, we, it

was kind of below what we thought

it was worth anyway.

He went the next day, actually

the day after a couple of days

passed.

And he will say, I got another

message from John.

And he said, scratch the white

one.

I've got your yellow one.

I want to get rid of.

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But you do realize.

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but I'm scared of heights.

He said, no, no, originally that

was off to you, right?

Yeah, he sent me a message and

said he floated the idea at me

and said, look, I kind of want to

invest some money into the

business because I want to.

So I might.

He said he doesn't want to.

He made that very clear.

I do not want to do this.

I like that car.

But my business is important,

which makes a lot of sense.

Would you be interested in the

yellow Cleo?

And I sat, I was in the car and

I thought I was thinking, I was

thinking, I was

like, I should buy that car back

because I love that car.

I never got the proper use out of

it.

Then I thought after a while,

it's not sense for me to do

that.

I've other, I've the

McGandesaw, I have the

most I'll go to use and pay for

and sort.

But then I thought, but then I

thought, hang on a sec.

Benjamin has been looking for

that and that is a very well

sorted car.

Although it has a slightly

sketchy pass.

It does.

It is.

I spent a lot of money on that

car and John spent a lot of

time and money on that car as

well.

So it's very, very well sorted

now.

It's 130,000 miles, but it's

called some really nice

modifications.

And it's just right where you

can, it's not finished.

There's bits you want to add

this seat.

There's a shifter, there's

blah, blah, blah.

So yeah, I'm going to be very

jealous seeing that car, but

I'm happy it's going to be

around again.

Yes.

So we made it, me and Will

have made an agreement here,

which is that when I come to

sell it, you will get first

after a few months.

Then you'll make a profit.

No, I would like to actually

keep it for a while, I think.

I like to have a clear a lot,

but now we can't say it yet

because there are, it's not,

it's not here.

There's always times for things

to change.

But there could be an elephant

because there was a mention

of Christmas.

There was no car bought

before Christmas Day.

Now we've had a chat.

Yeah.

And I bought us up to Will

because I said, listen, Will,

you do realize that here

you've negotiated your own L

because to be fair to you, you

did do most of the dealing with

you chose John.

It was kind of...

You were giving me like, oh,

it's probably worth this, this,

this, this.

It's kind of Will bought a car

for you.

Well, yes.

With your money.

Yes, you did enough

where it would be unfair

for you to get an L.

So we've, well,

we went to an independent

adjudicator, I, Edwin.

Yeah.

And he's confirmed what?

I've confirmed that I think

we can't,

neither party can receive an L

at this time.

The, I think the bet is still

very much a foot.

Should you not purchase a car

before December?

Yeah.

I think you'll receive a light

It won't be an in writing

or a, you know,

it'll just be something to keep

a note of.

Obviously, I get the L.

No, no, Ben, if Ben doesn't

buy a car.

Oh, doesn't buy a car, right?

Because this, this is neither,

neither party has done anything,

you know,

no, you've kind of worked

together on this.

This is one of those things

in the terms of conditions where

you read it and you go, oh,

okay.

Yeah, it kind of makes sense.

So, so we'll revisit this

in Christmas and we'll,

we'll make a decision on

the Christmas podcast,

whether that was an L.

We really should,

we should read the T's and

C's.

You always must.

When, when dishing out L's,

I'll always check T's and C's.

Because otherwise,

you won't get W's.

You don't want to,

you don't want to give out

a sort of incorrect L.

That can get it waived.

For those who are disappointed,

do remember that this is me,

so I'll always be an L.

Oh, sure.

By Christmas, it'll be a few.

Benjamin, you've already paid

for something.

So, Jono said,

don't worry about paying for

the car yet, right?

Yeah, so just take it.

Sure, mate.

He's done,

he's done you a very good deal.

Basically, I sold it to him

for plus a little bit that he's

put into it as well,

which was also quite,

I think he's put some new

suspension on it, which is nice.

Yummy.

But you've already paid

for modification.

It's crazy.

Now, this was,

I was not expecting to see this.

Ben said, alright,

I'm going to take the car.

Crazy, crazy thing number one.

Ben just said, alright,

I'm taking the car.

It was immediate.

I said to Ben,

this car is available.

He went, let's do it.

Let's buy it.

And then,

Jon said,

well, it needs tuning

because it needs a manifold,

so I could book it in at EFI,

which is the place I got

my, my cleared on,

your McGand on.

And then went,

alright, cool.

I'll play.

We'll do it right now.

I mean, look,

we are talking about like

the pot of funds.

Oh, has no bottom after.

Yeah.

You know,

a truly bottomless pair

to reach into.

If he doesn't fly the PGA

for one week,

that's paid the whole thing.

Just jangling coins in his pocket.

He went,

how much is it?

Oh, that's it.

Oh, well,

of course I'll do that.

I just agree.

If I didn't say yes to that,

I would have got bullies for

not saying yes to that.

But I,

everyone,

we were sat around

a service station having lunch

and Rory shouted at me,

oh, Ben,

just buy the car.

Like as if I'd said,

no, Rory,

we've messaged him.

I said, yes.

It was an immediate agreement

to be fair.

I sent it to John

and he agreed a price.

But that car,

Quaife Diff,

Rebuilt Gearbox,

I never got it

back with the Rebuilt Gearbox

properly.

So you've now got that.

It's had the belts done.

It's got the Diff.

It's got

refurb wheels,

new tyres.

That's a nice car.

Obviously slightly sketchy

history,

as we said,

but otherwise you'd pay double

that for a liquid car.

Oh, easy.

Especially with those mods,

you're probably paying

nearly 10 grand for a liquid

yellow car

with that level

of modification.

So potentially in a few weeks

time,

it won't happen instantly

because the car's getting tuned

and he's going through a little

few bits and bobs.

But you will see the yellow

Clio CLC,

CL11,

CL10,

unbelievable at the ring. The CV boot was nothing to do with that was old-part type

stuff. I looked at that car on the left side before, nothing more with it, but the way

he set the car up, way he sorted everything out, tuned everything. That car is unbelievable.

They have Renault stuff. He is your boy.

He's your man.

Also, Will is no stranger to a track driver. He's quite quick.

Oh, yeah. I went past you for a couple of laps and there were some moments where I'm

a great passenger. I've been in the car with a lot of people to film, so I'm quite a good

passenger. I'm quite comfortable going quickly, but there were a few moments where I was

like, okay, not from fear as in like a dangerous, as in from just like, oh, this is fast. Oh,

when we go?

Ben was silent.

That's how you know, yeah.

I kept looking over and thinking, oh, we'll have a bit of a laugh here. Ben was just not

saying a word.

I was like, oh, I didn't know at one point if we would have a control crash or if we would

just go get to a quarter.

It doesn't my CV boot.

No, but yeah.

So that's two rules, Ben was a big rule.

I'm saying the same. The M3, the video has gone out now a little while ago on the 2dc

channel of me prepping that car for the same trip or went well on that car.

There were a couple of annoying bits and pieces. I had a wheel wobble that means I think I

need new wheels.

They are egg shaped. I spent the whole of the day before the ring opened working on it

at Vulcan Alpha. Shout out to Misha and our mate Baz for letting us use their ramp.

I was unhappy. I was in the trenches that day.

Ben was having a tough day and whenever I was having a tough day, I walked over to him

kind of sheepishly to see how it was going and he went, my wheels are eggs.

But no, I saw I got them balanced as best I could. So I had a little vibration at like 120.

So it was fine for the trip on the way there and back, but it was on the ring.

The only time you actually noticed it when you're on the track, which is never nice.

But other than that, it was all good. I had a little fight with what, you know,

I believe the rev limiter should be at one point.

Little bit of a mighty shift. That was tough.

I thought you didn't want to mention that.

But hey, look, it's fine. The car survived, but I'll be speaking to Ben at Hack Engineering.

Shout out to him for helping me with everything on the parts for that.

But yeah, I'm so happy with that car. Also, the cream calipers are sick.

Every time I get out of the car, I look at it and go, that's just cool.

And it has also inspired me to get an old friend out. I'm getting the 996 out.

I have, I've been, I was thinking about it. I was like,

I don't want to turn the M3 into a full track car.

I don't, I don't like the idea of anything being a full track car,

but I could get the 996 out and we could do some, do some days on that.

Because Ben wants to now learn some track day stuff.

My Clio is ready for my girlfriend to learn in. I need something.

I don't want to use the M3.

We did, you did also say that you're going to get the Clio back up and going.

The Clio has to be so that my girlfriend can use it.

So I've ordered some parts. They've arrived today.

I'll do that this weekend and get that car back up and go.

William.

I haven't been gone.

No, come on.

He needs to be Clio gang.

I'm not adding another car for a while.

I've banned.

I don't believe you.

I have banned myself.

For the week.

Just a Clio, we're so good.

The boys.

There was only one Clio I believe I'd buy.

What's that?

It's my Blue Clio.

Yeah.

I could be tempted by one other.

There was only one.

Well, there could be more.

And that would be a Meg Swap, a Megann Swap to Clio.

But they're very expensive.

Yeah.

Does the current owner of your Blue Clio listen to the podcast?

Possibly.

If he is listening.

Come on, let's have it back.

If he offered it to me, I think we mentioned this,

but he offered it to me very recently

because he was going to possibly buy something else.

And to my God, did I get bricked up about that information?

Put it this way.

The owner, if you are listening.

Don't ever teach me like that again.

William claims I'm not buying a car.

If you offer it to him, he'll buy it.

The issue is that car I have to buy.

Yeah.

But also, it's not for ludicrous money.

You know what you would spend on that.

Yeah, look.

Brother.

I know what I've got.

I know what you've got.

Oh, yeah.

Not like if you offer it, if you say it's 20 grand,

he's not going to pay that.

But if you pay a fair market price, surely you'll buy it.

I was very pleased about that because he told me

how many miles it's got.

And it's got about 12,000 or 13,000 miles more

than when I sold it.

And I was very pleased because I thought,

you know what?

Perhaps I did something right.

I was going to say, that's always kind of cool when a car,

when a car that you've done an engine swap or car

you've done a load of work to, just works.

You're like, that's kind of cool.

This is when I found out he goes,

oh no, the engine's come out.

That's a totally new engine.

Oh, I had to redo it.

So there it is.

Three rules of the week.

Thank you for bearing with our long anecdotes.

But sorry, our long stories of the week.

Let's get into anecdotes and uses.

Are we doing quick fire news today?

No, I'd like to kick off with a big one.

Is it the egg?

I think we need to get it out of the way.

So I cannot bear it any longer.

One last piece of a trip rated J-Prey.

So as described by Benjamin, he was doing 34 miles an hour on the motorway.

So it meant that Will and I were separated from him.

Now, Patrick, who works with us, was in Will's 130i as passenger seat.

I was behind him in my M3.

We're on the way back in on the M25.

Now, look, we've talked about it before.

If we're out and about, we like to just give people a beep and wave,

cheer everyone up.

On the trip, we were doing the same thing.

We were just interacting with members of public in the car, in traffic, sorry.

So for instance, you might say to someone,

can you ask this person in the car what they were having for dinner?

And I said to Will, there's a guy in a van up here, completely random,

genuinely random, Ben.

Now, Ben doesn't know about this story.

No, they've been hyping it up all week.

No, we don't.

So it's Friday.

We're not trying to hype it.

We came back on Sunday and Will said to me,

the most mental thing happened involves this egg.

I will not tell you till Friday on the podcast.

The best thing is, is there is footage.

There is full footage of this.

Now, the egg is a bit of a misdirection.

I need you to just ignore it for now.

Like ignore.

I'm going to say a word and you're going to go, oh, but just ignore it.

So we, so we're in traffic.

I say to Will, there's a van with his window up down there.

We've all got walkie-talkies.

I say, can you please ask this gentleman, actually Patrick, sorry, ask.

Can you ask this gentleman, whoever's in this van, what they're having for dinner?

And so their car pulls up alongside and Patrick leans out and says,

excuse me, our interests, what are you having for dinner?

And the guy is shirtless in a van smoking a cigarette.

He's actually farmer spec checkered shirts.

Oh, it was a checkered shirt.

And the guy says chicken and kind of like motions across.

And we, the kind of traffic pulls away and we start joking at the radio.

Like what a, what they unspecific thing, just chicken in general.

And as we arrive, like get close to him again, I says, Patrick,

can you ask him to elaborate on what that means?

And I then is here just, just shouting over the radio.

And when I look ahead, the man is holding a live chicken out of the window.

An entire live chicken is being held out of the window.

And over the radio, he shouts, he's got a chicken.

He's got a live chicken.

Anyway, pandemonium ensues.

And then the woman next to him shouts, oh, it's laid an egg.

And they kind of move away again.

And when they join again, the guy goes, do you want the egg?

And the man hands an egg across the lane of the M25,

to Will and Patrick in the car.

And that is where that egg has come from.

This is the egg.

It has fresh chicken poo on it.

I don't know if that's actually poo.

It does look a lot like poo, to be honest.

But so that was acquired in a game type way from a NPC side quest.

I have never been that close.

I do not actually.

I have been that close to pissing myself laughing.

I'm like, just a moment.

No.

No, no, no, no, no.

Let me finish this story.

And then I will get to that one.

No, you can't do that story.

Turns out more J.Prey happened on the trip.

I looked at, I'm driving the 130i at this point.

It's a, we've done a lot of driving.

We're on the M25, not that far from home.

Quite looking forward to it.

I thought I was in some sort of fantasy wonderland.

I look across and a man is holding a chicken out of the window.

There is a photo.

You can see that the woman in the passenger seat looks stunned when she says,

it's laid an egg.

She was excited.

But she pulled the chicken out of a cardboard box in the footwell.

Oh.

She picked up this box and I was like, what is that?

And then out of the box was the chicken and then handed to the driver and presented to us.

But we said, it sounds, it doesn't sound real.

It sounds like something someone would make up for a podcast,

but we have footage of the entire thing.

I have a video of the hand over of the egg,

of the egg, the hands crossing the borders with egg in middle.

So that was nice.

But you know, if you could tell the other, so I, I haven't laughed that hard until just that morning.

I've never since just that morning.

It wasn't the morning.

It was the day we got off the ferry.

This story, I have never seen Will laugh like it.

Will was crashed over the bonnet of a car with his legs cross holding his crotch as if he was

trying to spit himself.

You're in was so, so close to tricking down my leg is unbelievable.

So there was a, if you'd like to take it, but it was leaving the ferry when it was busy.

We get the ferry usually when we go across to the, to the continent.

And obviously you park your cars in, in queues down at the bottom of the ship.

Then you go upstairs and you can get food and do, do blah, blah.

So we did that, came back downstairs to go to the cars when they say ready to go.

And some people are already at their cars.

Some people are already waiting in them.

You can't wait in the while there.

So you have to walk down the middle of some of the cars.

I'd say, what, there's five, there's millions of rows.

Walking down the line, me, Patrick in front of me, Ben just in front of Patrick.

Walking past the woman, what I believe was Ford Focus, possibly a fiesta.

She's in the passenger seat.

Window down.

What little message does Ben drop to her as, as you park though?

He farts through her window.

Now, and, and now I wasn't privy to this, but I was made aware multiple times.

It was enforced upon me that it was not a small fart.

No, it was no, I got it from a few paces back and then better than that, she noticed it.

Now Patrick and Ben, Patrick, Ben dropped the message.

He'd left a deposit with her and then they, but they were past the car by that point.

And then it was just me to go past and I was pissing myself laughing and the woman in the car

just went, excuse you.

I didn't get on purpose.

Ben, do you deny anything, Bob?

We were walking.

I thought it'd be funny to do that in front of Patrick because we were so tight,

he'd have to then walk through it.

Just childish, silly stuff, right?

Just a sort of thing that we get up to.

It was immaculate.

Now I tried my, I genuinely believe that I still do that no, no windows were open.

I was trying to do it.

So I could, in this little corridor, the Patrick would have to walk through

and it'd be funny.

I assure you her window was open.

Because I didn't know why you were laughing until we were watching you laugh that hard

and you said that lady's window was open, but I swear, I did a check.

She held it loud.

There was no window open.

She heard it loud and clear.

Was the window shut?

No, it was wide open.

I didn't see that.

Imagine an open window.

Imagine anything for that sort of thing to get through.

It's open.

It's a hot fairy.

She's got the window down.

Yeah.

And then you decided to take a degree day and get the windows down.

I was too.

Well, I'm enjoying a last bit of fresh air to get off this fairy.

I didn't mean to.

But you know, good stuff then.

Sorry, lady.

It was perfect.

It was immaculately done.

It was professionally done and you did it with, not without Trace,

but with Grayson Decora.

But you did it without getting caught.

And I just got the excuse.

Well, she probably thought it was you then.

No, I don't think so.

I don't think that's how I felt about Patrick.

And it's just like some sort of fighter jet spec noise.

Ben buzzed the tower.

I do apologize.

That was not okay, but I didn't mean to do it to her.

That was the point.

Is that I was trying to get Patrick, but I just can't.

You're a horrible person.

I didn't mean it.

Right.

Let's do some news analytics.

We've got some quick, fine news because as of right now,

Goodwood is going on.

So there have been lots of launches and what such.

Ben, tell me about the New X5.

You put in here New X5.

That was 10 days ago you put that in.

Let's talk about it.

Okay.

The Neuer class, I believe it's called,

when is that correct?

Which is the new era of BMW design.

They're dropping class.

They're dropping cars left, right and center.

This is the X5 on screen.

And he's got X's in his headlights.

Let me describe it to you.

Like an old race car.

Imagine an ugly car, but the headlights are X's and not headlights.

No, I will say it's not pretty.

But I don't think it's awful.

They've somehow uncomplicated obviously a little bit.

I think it looks kind of similarish to the last X5 in terms of looks.

I don't think it's terrible.

I don't mind the rear that much.

The rear has got the long lights, the kind of New Neuer class lights.

So I'll be interested to see what a hot version looks like.

Like an X5 doesn't look good, but an X5M looks kind of cool.

So I'd like to see what this looks like.

That's an M?

Well, that's the M50.

No, no, I mean like an actual one with a kit and wheels.

It just looks shite.

Okay. Well, that's just in from Ben.

What next, Ben?

What next?

Well, we've also put in here about the McLaren W1 race mode.

GPS.

So W1, what would you call it?

Bargo?

What's the embargo dropped relatively recently,

which is why you would have seen lots of people talking videos about it.

And I was watching, I think it was the Chris Harris one on it.

Not only I like that car.

It's cool.

I don't, I think the P1 was a prettier car, better looking car, whatever else.

But the W1 sounds incredible.

May I say as well, going doors.

Going doors.

You're doing going doors these days.

I didn't know that.

It just looks exceptionally cool.

It has a race mode.

It has a race mode that gives you the full power of the force,

the 1200 and whatever horsepower it is.

A couple of beans.

When do you think you can use that?

Is that, is that what the GPS eat?

You can own a track.

And it is GPS track.

Now what, how, how are they declaring tracks?

Because what if I'm on a street course?

What if I'm at Monaco?

Do they go, well, yeah, you can use it all year round.

I think I assume it would just be circuits as in like actual circuit circuits.

Then that's ridiculous.

Because what if I take my W1 to the Formula 1 in Monaco and they go,

yeah, you can do it like that.

What if I'm in Baku?

Exactly.

So, but I don't like it because it feels one step away from,

from just restricting your car on the road.

What about drag strip?

I mean, I think it is 1100 horsepower the rest of the time on the road.

Yeah, but the full, like when it goes super, super low

and you have the full power and whatever else is restricted only to race track.

But you've paid for the car.

So give me the beans.

You got the rest of the race track.

That's not, I guess it's, I guess it's not that dissimilar.

Well, it's less even than when Ferrari, when you bought the FXX stuff and they said,

you, we, you don't get to keep that car at home.

You tell us when you want to go to a track and we'll bring it with.

But I guess that's not a road legal car though.

True.

That is truly use it on a track.

Not fair.

Whereas this is a car you can.

I mean, really, you shouldn't be using race mode on the road.

No, but it's not a point.

But if it's a feature, let me have it.

Or his one.

Don't add the feature.

What if I make a track out of a road?

Yeah, what if it's my private track?

Like if I'm rich enough to have one of these, I've got my own track in my garden.

I've closed the road.

I've paid for.

You might have your own race track somewhere and they can't,

do you have to come calibrate it in?

Well, I think if you have your own race track, they go, well, that's fine.

But then it wouldn't be on the GPS.

You have to make them to manually add it.

And if they do it quickly, what if you go off the track and the car goes,

right, well, I'm not on the track anymore.

I'm limiting you.

Yeah.

Get back off the grass and we might go again.

Four horsepower.

Oh, sorry.

You're not in a very sort of rainy climate.

No wind scrubs for you.

But it won't break pads, mate.

What they do, they got emissions.

No, you're a seven.

We're going to use nine of those.

Oh, it's bloody 1984, innit?

Enjoy crashing.

But it worried me because I thought, when is that?

I don't like that.

A bit stuck.

It feels a bit, yeah.

Not sure about that.

Again, you do still get a lot of beans of

worth of power out of it on the road.

But let's not do that.

But it's not all the beans.

Yeah, it's not all the beans.

I paid for a half.

I've paid for a full ten of beans.

If I pay for a ten of beans, I open it's half full and they go,

we can give you the other half sometimes.

No, I'm not happy with that.

But you have to have it cooked by a professional.

Yeah.

Or you can only have beans at this location.

I'm like, no, I want beans at home.

Maybe I want beans out on the street.

Yeah, I could have beans on my doorstep if I so please.

I might want to walk through the centre of Wokingham.

If it's beans.

Just Docsus and our favourite food.

The famous bean van.

Speaking of McLaren, there is another McLaren's news.

Is there not?

There is, there is, there is.

It's called the McLaren 788HS.

Which stands for High Sport.

High Sport.

Actually, yes, it does.

Actually, I thought you made that out.

No, it does stand for it instead for HS Tentytoki.

Apparently they've done High Sport before.

They have.

Three times.

That's what I thought.

I didn't know this.

I looked it up.

And yeah, it's a thing they did before.

It was, I want to say 675 and it was a, or 650.

And it was done as like a track spec.

It was a super rare 25 units only track spec thing.

And now they're making a bigger deal of it.

Because I don't, I don't remember the HS earlier.

I don't like this.

I don't like it.

It looks a bit Mansori.

Well, this is, this happens a lot on the, when they do like LTs and stuff.

Like remember the 675 LT had those mega-spoky wheels?

Horrible looking wheels.

Again, looked quite Mansori.

So there are some specs that look quite cool.

There's another photo that I'll put up here that has some nicer wheels,

but it's not as nice as, so basically this is,

this is the final version of this shape of McLaren.

But it was a 720S.

The extreme version of the 720 was a 765,

which is my favorite because I think it just looks very amazing.

750.

And 750.

And then this is now the 750.

So 765 is unrelated to the 750, basically.

And then this is the extreme version of a 750, but it's also apparently,

it's like the, it's the swan song.

It's the finale.

It's the goodbye.

It, it, it's the end.

The thinking man's 750S.

It's a cat and coal.

You know, we're never going to see this again.

They're going to replace it.

Um, I, but yeah, I don't assume it'll just be apeshit fast and,

but I'm not sure.

Yeah.

It's just the way it looks.

I don't know.

It makes a 765 look much more attractive.

Oh, way more.

I also think that the 750S is very, I have a handsome car.

Handset.

Okay.

That's it.

I actually said the 20.

It's just got those simple lines.

Yeah.

In comparison to the loud, the brash Lamborghini,

to the, the heritage of the Ferrari,

the, the McLaren is, is really, it's the pinnacle of technology.

It's engineering.

To the, the charismatic Italian.

They bring you the gentle Brit.

Lovely.

A little bit.

I've lost the rest of what I was going to say.

You've got a Ferrari when you are somebody.

And you, by Lamborghini, when you want to be somebody,

but the McLaren is who you are.

Is somebody.

Lovely.

This is all good, all around.

I'm a big fan of that.

But yeah, there's a new McLaren.

Okay, cool.

On to the next.

And you've all seen that probably two weeks ago at this stage.

Many, many moons.

What other news have we got?

Ben.

Hi, Will.

You've seen this.

I've seen this recently.

Edwin might not have seen this.

Cool.

Roof.

Flat eight.

I have seen this.

So Roof.

Not what are they?

They are not what dogs say.

But what are they?

They are, I don't actually know.

Great.

Are they a manufacturer or are they a church?

I think they are technically a manufacturer,

which is why they always got around being in Gran Turismo

in the early days,

because they were their own manufacturer.

That is what I know Roof from.

They look like they're basically porches.

That's what I think.

Sorry, they allegedly are similar to porches.

Now, they've created a new car called,

I'm trying to find out what it's called.

I've forgotten if I'm being completely honest with you.

Now, the car.

It's cool.

The car is not called this.

It's called the B8.

It was nicknamed, but that's not the car.

That's the engine.

The BH box.

The car is the CTR3,

which because you did not grow up afflicted by car games,

you won't know that car.

But anybody like us.

Is it a 997 front end?

It's like an elongated 997.

I have it in the crew.

That's the guy that I just love.

So you have,

so but now they've fitted with a flat eight engine.

It's 1000 horsepower.

1000 horsepower.

Now, do you want to hear it?

Is it interesting?

Do you know what's interesting?

I heard it and I thought,

what's that noise?

And I'm fairly sure they were just pinging it off the limiter.

It's got heirs of the new Bugatti V16 to it, in my opinion.

I heard lots of good turbo noises.

Now, Ben, do you know about Porsches and flat eights?

That is a, it's always been a thing in their race cars.

From the, I want to say 50s and 60s.

Flat eights were like the thing that dominated with them

in the mon and all that sort of stuff.

So it's, and then it went away and then they ever came back.

I felt like we were really not doing flat engines really.

No one's doing them.

Who are doing flat engines?

Paul Shaw.

Paul Shaw and,

and Ferrari.

Not quite, but kind of.

Is it flat, what, flat 12?

It's not really a flat 12, no.

There's some of them on modern V6.

That's a flat crank pin.

There's, there's, very gets very nerdy.

But Ben, I'd like you to play a, play a noise please.

Oh, sure. Let me play you a noise.

That sounds incredible.

That was the wrong Instagram post.

Oops.

Ben clicked on low-fi trap beats too.

Oh, why are they all so, why are they all trap beats?

Oh, big flush flip of 9,000.

Now, it does sound cool.

It does, but at the same time, it's sound like a V8.

It just sounds, it doesn't have much of a,

unique noise to it.

Exactly. That could be, if that went past me,

I would think that's AMG4L to V8.

It's just sounds a little bit muted, a bit dull.

It made some excellent turbo, excellent.

That makes a terrible noises.

But I assume that's because it's just, it's not a real,

not real, but you know, it's not production.

It's not real.

So it's just making big, extreme noises.

Oh, do you know what it has?

It has a Koenigsegg flavor.

It's a V8 M140.

Okay.

It's got those whistles.

Because of the whistles.

Whistles and a little bit of downpipe whistle.

Yeah.

So I'm interested to see if they, if that becomes a,

because I mean the car, the CTR3 already had,

I want to say, or 900 horsepower.

So this is a new version of the engine also.

Someone's just had those delivered.

Yeah.

Cool ones delivered.

Oh, by the way, we've just put a better engine in there.

So if you want to buy another one,

but Benny, you're excited about that?

I don't care, but I thought the sound was quite good.

Oh, so you do.

I think it's interesting.

Yeah.

That's a bit thoughtful.

It's related to a Porsche thus rendered useless.

Well, I just don't really, I don't really get it.

I would have thought you would be more interested

because you're a Porsche man.

Yeah, but it's, I don't really understand on rough.

Here's Renault.

Why?

I just don't.

What do you mean?

I don't really know what they are.

They just make Porsches fast.

Yeah, but they don't look like Porsches really.

They look like wide Porsches.

The majority of roughs ever have just looked like a normal Porsche.

Like the only one I know is that one, which is the wide looking ones.

It's kind of the more extreme ones.

Most of them look like a...

Oh, I know what the body kit ones, but I like this.

I don't really like a big body kit on a Porsche.

But okay, this is interesting.

I like it.

Are you thinking of something else?

Yeah.

I think you might think of a different car.

Show me.

Show me your Rs next up.

So there are all sorts of different roughs.

For instance, if I pull up a...

Is that dogs?

Yeah, dogs.

Making a presentation.

So that's a 993 CTR2.

Yeah, I don't like it.

Why?

When the wheels look ugly and I don't like it.

Okay, I don't like you.

Okay, well, that's kind of what they do.

What about a yellow bird?

I'm going to pull up a photo of it.

Do you know what that is?

That's the guy from Sesame Street.

It is indeed.

I think that's a big bird.

That's a big bird, but you've got close.

How about that?

It just looks like...

Don't say it.

It looks like a toy version of a 911.

What does that mean?

Like it looks...

It looks...

Just so you know, this is a photo on a screen.

But it looks like a toy.

Why?

I don't know.

It just looked before because it was weird to me.

No, it just looks...

It looks...

I don't like it.

It looks like this weird hybrid of modern and old school,

but then not in them.

Ah, okay.

I think he's nailed it.

So that you are aware that came out in 1987.

But it looks like that, I'm saying.

It looks like a mixture of modern and old.

Is that not the new, new one?

No, that's a...

That would be a original yellow bird.

In fact, it has the...

In fact, there is only actually technically one yellow bird,

and that's the one that has the intake on the rear quarter panel.

I like it.

So that should be the original car.

So no, the new ones have a like a freshened face.

I will pull up a photo of one of those.

This is what you're probably thinking of.

All the listeners, apologies.

Just trying to teach Ben to not be wrong.

So I'm pulling up a new photo of one of their Resto-Mod ones.

That's a Resto-Mod car.

Dive.

So Ben, I don't like you, mate.

I like it less.

What? Oh, wow.

Okay, that's interesting, isn't it?

I like the fact that with Singer and stuff,

it still looks quite classy.

You are an interesting critter.

Like a DLS looks like a...

It looks quite classy.

Are you joking me?

What's wrong?

You think a DLS looks...

A DLS is mental.

Is it?

Yes.

Show me DLS.

Look, great.

This is this show and tell with Ben.

Sorry, all DLS listeners, we will get back to...

What does that look like?

Is that what I'm thinking of?

What's the one I'm thinking of?

Not the new one with the long ass.

Not the turbo one you're talking about.

No, I'm talking like the Singer that you imagine.

That's just an original Singer.

Oh, that was cool.

Like the one we saw at the ferry port,

just to reimagine by Singer.

Yeah, that I like, because it's classy.

That's how I've asked him what should be.

It still looks classy and like old,

whereas I don't like it when you try and make it look futuristic and also...

Okay, but the first photo I showed you

was of an original Ruff from 1987.

It doesn't look.

It looks like it's trying to be futuristic to me.

That's so interesting, these things that you're...

Maybe I'm just like an old looking Porsche.

But it is.

I get what you're saying.

I don't really like...

It doesn't have like the bumper.

It doesn't look...

The bodywork looks more modern.

Like the chrome bits you get and all the...

That looks...

Also, I'll upset you now.

I don't really like a 964 that much.

It's not even a 964.

But it looks like one.

It looks like one.

That's what I mean.

It looks like a weird futuristic looking thing.

You aren't right.

Porsche is supposed to be your thing.

Yeah, but I like what I have.

I've had a Porsche.

You know this.

What?

You have a back there.

I probably have a back there, yeah.

Yeah, but that's...

That's that generation.

Exactly, but a back date looks like a original G body

with like all the nice chrome bits.

And it looks like classy to me.

Sorry, if you're an audio listener

and you also don't care about Porsches,

that was a rough segment for you.

We'll move on.

It's tough for me, rough.

I had no idea it was down.

So many...

It's completely intentional.

I don't know what any of those numbers mean.

Anyway, Ben, you've put in here the MG unique design.

Have you seen this?

I did.

I did, yes.

Edwin, would you be able to please...

I can put up a photo of...

One more round for losing the audio listeners.

MG have come out with a new thing of some variety.

Which we don't care about, but I just want the design.

Now, MG meaning that's that English company, right?

Yeah, that's the one.

It's the one that all the...

The English company based in China.

Yeah, there, that's there.

Now, I'm sorry.

I might have pulled up the wrong image

because this is of a mini.

Yeah.

Anyone listening?

Or a funky cat.

Anyone listening who wants to know what it looks like?

Imagine a mini.

Yep, and that's it.

And that's it.

So, yeah.

So, MG has now made...

This is their new...

It's like a preview of it, like a concept type thing, right?

But this is going to be an electric car.

They've released it at Goodwood.

I'm just going to see if I can find the information on it.

It is exceptionally mini, isn't it?

And then the rear end of it is like 5.

Now, do you know Expenderman?

I don't know anything.

But do you know that, obviously, there was...

It was MG, right?

Correct, MG Rover.

MG Rover, the new mini, I guess.

As you know, all the R50 or whatever it would have been called.

Yep.

That design was almost identical to what MG Rover had.

Yep.

MG Rover had it.

BMW came in and bought it and went bloody hell.

Said, it's nice.

They're going to make it.

And this one's going to be reliable.

That's fine, but you can't...

So, the design is very similar.

So, I don't know if someone's found an archive and went bloody hell.

We should make that.

You can't do it now, though.

Why not?

Because it is just a mini that we've been known for 25 years.

Why not?

I don't think that looks like a mini.

I think that's the MG, too.

Yeah.

Sorry.

For legal reasons, that is a completely different car.

Yeah.

That mini...

Sorry.

That MG is completely different to any other car.

Do you think you look like Claire Balder?

Yes.

Honestly, for years before even TDC...

That was unrelated.

That's just a general question.

But yeah, do you know what I would now like to see?

Because I think that's actually...

It's kind of a cool...

It's kind of an aggressive looking little hatch thing.

I don't mind it.

Now I want to see what the production version looks like.

Because they say it's supposed to cost around 20 grand.

So that puts it at the lower end of electric market.

If it looks as aggressive as this, fair play.

If it doesn't...

Yeah, come on now, Charlie.

It's doing that thing that I hate again, again, again on any modern car,

especially a modern small car, where it's a four door or a five door.

But it's done the hidden rear door thing.

Yeah.

So they're admitting that it doesn't look good with the four doors.

So they try and hide the rear door handles.

What is it?

Why can't you make three doors anymore?

Yeah.

Is it because no one bought them?

Is it because it's hard to produce or there's no point in producing them

because no one wants them?

Possibly that's the answer.

I've just answered my question.

I do not know.

But a three door, that would look so much better with a slightly longer door.

Yeah.

You don't have that crease on the...

You don't have that line on the rear axle either, on the above the rear axle.

It would just look nice.

It would look much better.

I hate it.

And then they put the stupid door handle in like the C-pillar.

Just stop it.

If you have a door handle, just put the door handle there.

And also it looks like a mini.

More things ready to use and whatever such.

We also have a Ben you put in here, the Lanzanti Bagatti Bollocks.

The Bagatti Belide, Belide, whatever it is.

A bit of Belide.

Which was their track only car.

Lanzanti, we're back out again on some crazy stuff.

Of course.

We've just gone, yeah, I'll make it road legal.

And there is now one.

I love Lanzanti's business model.

Yeah, absolutely incredible.

So if we haven't explained it beforehand, Lanzanti are a company that were involved

in racing with McLaren F1s back in the day.

Paul Lanzanti.

And now...

That's his name.

Yeah, Paul.

That's the coolest name.

It's incredible, isn't it?

Now they basically, they will convert any high-end hypercar or race car into a road car if you want it.

So they did Huayras, Huayra R's, Zondara R's and...

F1s a lot.

F1s.

So they've now done the Bagatti Bollied, which was not supposed to be road legal.

And then also I saw the Essenza Lamborghini.

Yeah, I saw the one with headlights.

It has headlights and it has their plate on the back.

So I wonder if that's a thing from them being like,

you know, if you've got one, we'll make it road legal.

We can do whatever.

I reckon they've just got a really friendly MOT tester.

They've just got a Bluetooth MOT man that will go,

yeah, I'll just shut me an extra 20.

We've got a couple of headlights on it, tail light, fog light.

Emissions don't worry about it.

Don't worry, we'll stick it in a Fiat 500.

Very noisy, don't worry about it.

I find it funny that they do like what people do when they import cars here.

They just get that universal fog light that just bolts on.

Yeah, got that.

Get rid of the road flare that's been, you know,

sitting in the corner from the Japanese import

and then get a nice square plate to just stick on the front

and off you go, mate.

Enjoy it.

Yeah, where's the plate going on that?

Just over the Bagatti badge.

I imagine it's probably not.

Windscreen.

On the windscreen.

Like any true scrum bag.

Scrum bag.

Ben, another piece of news this guy believes.

Well, you put them in.

Yeah, sir.

You can't be head of news.

And then when the news comes out, you get bloody hell.

Go on, give it to me.

He's our news anchor.

That's a lot of news.

Give me the news.

There's a limit on how much news we're going to have, folks.

Go on.

You said about the new CLA, CLA 45.

And it's obscene stats.

I saw this last night just casually.

I don't care about this car.

Great.

It's just the best news anchor the world has ever seen.

It's just the CLA or A-Class A45.

It's that platform.

Where it's saloon, right?

But it's the swoopy, coopy saloon.

Now, it looks fine.

Does it?

I don't.

I really don't like that.

It looks fine.

It's a car.

Now, the stats are insane.

You know, I've just, while getting the photo up,

I've seen a number.

Have you seen this?

What's the CLA 45?

Let me think.

And let me give some context, perhaps.

The CLA 45 in the past would have been, what, 300 to 400?

No more than that.

What's this now?

Well, I want you to guess that.

I want you to guess the power.

I want you to guess the torque.

Is it a hybrid?

And a 0-60.

No, just a...

Okay.

I'm going to say it's got 650 horsepower.

Okay.

And 850 newton-metres of torque.

Okay.

A 0-60.

Two.

Two seconds.

3.1.

Okay.

2.7.

2.7 seconds.

What the?

680 horsepower.

So, it's the C63.

Yeah, power chain.

So...

But it's a 45, though.

So, it's a hybrid.

Yeah.

But it should be a CLA 63, then.

Because it's got up to 500 kilowatts from three axial flux motors.

So, that would be batshit fast.

What does that mean?

But what are axial flux motors?

Axial flux motors.

I think that was what the things that Koenig said were coming out with many moons ago.

I can't remember.

I don't know the details.

But that is effectively, because the CLA is just a long version of the A-class,

effectively a nearly 700 horsepower hot hatch.

The key feature of axial flux motors is that the electromagnetic flux

is aligned parallel to the motor's axis.

In conventional electric motors, by contrast,

it runs at right angles to it.

The central components of the axial flux motor are designed as flat discs.

Here, the stator is enclosed on the left and right by two rotors in a sandwich-like structure.

This design, also known as H-configuration,

allows for the ideal transfer of the magnetic flux

from the stator's magnetic field to the rotors.

And why are you telling me?

And that's exactly...

Why don't you just call it a motor?

It's like when you get chefs and they tell you how they cooked it.

I don't...

Like, listen, great man.

Do you know what? I do like if a chef does tell me it's cooked.

Like, that's nice.

I knew, but what I did is I did this differently.

I removed it.

What I did was I inverted the jus so that I cut it inside of a scallop.

That way, the flavour is really encapsulated.

What I've done here is I've reverse-seared it.

So I've put it in a bag of water for the next 28 hours,

and I've taken it out looking soggy and tough to see.

I've made it very hot and I've crisped it up.

It's a steak, man, and it's nice.

But I don't need to know that.

Or is it just explaining what a normal thing does,

but then just adding buzzwords and making it sound confusing going...

Well, but that...

So it's a motor.

Also, there were probably engineers listening to that.

They were like, oh, yeah? Oh, no, that makes...

They don't know that.

Actually fascinating.

That's how that works.

And we're going, those didn't make sense.

Just call it a motor.

You bloody stupid.

They're probably chefs listening to what you said and going,

Koi, you cooked it inside the scallop.

Oh, right.

I might try that.

It's the almond of the walmart.

Are they squeezing it out of peanut?

So there you go.

There's the CLA-45.

Why does the CLA-45 need 680?

Also, surely now it weighs a million tons again.

Because all of the C63 was 2.2 or something ridiculous.

So now the CLA-45, which wouldn't have been a light thing before,

is now going to be an absolute heffa-lump.

Google AI now says it's 2.37 tons.

Hey!

That's the standard saloon 2.28.

This is Google AI.

Don't trust that.

But we do report on it.

But we will use it as an incredible source.

You heard it here forever.

It is saying this is from...

No, that is confirmed.

The shooting break will weigh 2.295 tons.

That is absolute...

Ups.

What the bloody heck?

I think this more and more.

Do you know what?

Cars like this coming out make old cars like we drive more and more unsafe.

Because, okay, we used to drive around in it, let's say the 159.

Most of the cars driving around...

You had SUVs that were heavy,

but the majority of cars that you encountered on the road were not 2 tons.

Now, the majority of cars that you will drive past will be a 2-ton electric car.

Why are you laughing over there, Ben?

You're just smiling to yourself.

Can we cut back?

Can you keep cutting back while I was explaining that to Ben this camera?

Because he was just cheesing over there.

What was you laughing at?

I was looking at your nails at the same time.

I saw how I cut my finger.

Just straight cheesing.

Do you actually want to know how I was laughing?

Yep.

I thought about the fart story.

Okay, perfect.

Meanwhile, I'm trying to make a serious point out here that we're...

You've got to be careful, because if that CLA45 comes around the corner

and wacks into you, I'll be amiss.

That is a 2.3-ton saloon coming at you.

I want to crash test something.

I want to crash test something like that, but in something even older,

like something from the 80s and 70s, and to see what happens.

I don't... I miss crash tests. They test things,

but they never test them against other cars.

They do. So there was a... I think it was a Chevy Malibu,

a 60s Chevy Malibu.

Malibu.

Like a swordfish as well.

Going into like a 2015 one, and it's tough.

It's just a plethora.

So it's just going into something from the 80s.

You're just going to...

Oh, yeah.

You're going to bend it up like a pretzel, big style.

Tough. Let me see if I can get the...

Yeah, Malibu versus Malibu crash test.

There is a 1958.

You're creating like an arena. It's like a sport.

So there on screen is a 1959 Chevy Bel Air going into a new Malibu.

Just getting absolutely, if I look from...

Where's the...

There's a later one where you can see, I think, from above.

But that's gone. That whole car is crumpled.

And that, the car it's crashing into is like a one and a half ton 2005 odd Malibu.

Now imagine that's a 2.5 ton electric car.

Yeah, also like the other Malibu, not a small car, by any means.

Whereas someone in there, some delightful old chap,

trundling along in his 2005, about to get made into absolute mints by a CLA-45.

It's mad. And also, especially French people,

it's especially when you've got the Bradford gang who were going to go and get these,

the CLA-45s, and they're going to be herring around back roads.

That's not going to end well.

No.

That's going to end tough.

So, you know, interesting to see how that turns out.

What we got next?

We're going back to another ring.

People have to know about this story.

Now, not only does Ben fart through old woman's windows.

I didn't fart purposely through our window.

He farted through an old woman's window.

No, I tried to not fart in her window.

I didn't realize.

Right, but that's both of them.

It's not.

The court, the comments, and the cremers will decide.

Will decide.

We didn't talk about this beforehand.

I really didn't want that in the podcast.

Well, we have off camera agreed that Ben is now allowed to put in a clip of Will

farting on a 2Dc video, which is rough.

No, no, don't ruin it.

Don't ruin it.

Well, I said we were filming a scene and Will did one of the worst sounding farts.

Meanwhile, people listen to this.

Why is it always about farts and poo and wee?

Sorry.

These are grown men.

But anyway, hey, John, something much more serious.

You've got 20 minutes of news.

Right, you can't be upset.

So, the Nurburgring is a place we went to and we met many cremers.

Shout out the cremers that we met.

At least we tried to meet some of the cremers.

Well, very good.

Yeah.

At least we tried.

I can't remember what.

What color were we in?

We were in the fiesta.

So, we had just done our lap.

We had just done off.

We were about to go out.

Okay.

All right.

Sorry.

That's why, because you were tense.

Ben was feeling that morning and the day before.

Ben was feeling very anxious, very tense, and exceptionally bendy.

And he was just wasn't himself.

Yeah.

And he needed that ring lap.

It was your first proper lap.

Sorry, your first actual lap, right?

You'd been passenger.

It was more the fact that we've been...

It was German prison.

I was very nervous for the lap as it was.

I was nervous for that.

Nervous for the car blowing up and unproven,

and then me rolling down the track in a GT3.

Quick excuse.

It's spinning off into the arm car.

Family podcast.

Don't talk about rolling down the track.

Okay.

And then also I was dying in that.

And then also worry about knowing the layout of the track, which I don't know.

Cars coming up behind me to try and kill me.

And also you two being in the car.

They're trying to do that at all.

You two are the car.

Shout out to me.

I was very nervous.

So anyway, all fabrication.

You were very, very nervous.

And there's lots of little car parks around the ring.

And there was a car park that's literally across the road,

just before you head onto the track.

And we were parked in there.

And we were just going to park up for a sec.

And a creamer appeared at the window and went to shake our hand.

And actually shook hands with the man.

And Edwin greeted him.

And, but Ben was still slightly moving.

And he came to a halt and we thought we're going to talk to him.

And then Ben decided, there's no time for this.

I'm leaving.

There's no time for this.

And I had the man's hand in my hand.

And I felt the car start to pull away.

And he pulled away.

You could see this man.

I was navigating the car park as it was.

And I slowed down to let someone walk across.

And then they'd then gone at that point.

So I carried on moving.

But he was already maybe five to 10 seconds into talking.

Yeah.

And then you decided...

No, not that long.

It was like a second.

No, no, no.

You should have heard Creamer, which is what he said.

Yeah.

He did.

By the way, he said he led with Creamer, not TDC.

So we were parking out.

30 seconds later, we would have just been sat there.

That's crazy.

Ben said no photos.

It wasn't that.

I apologise to the person who it was.

I was in a state of stress.

We just want to let you know that Will and I really do love you guys.

And we wouldn't do that deliberately.

And Ben has decided he has no time for any of you.

You know, he is the event.

He has places to be.

So sorry.

He's sorry he had a 13-minute lap to do.

Sorry to the Creamer out there.

It's not 13.

Sorry to the Creamer.

You know, we'll catch you at the next event.

I don't know.

Hopefully.

Well, as long as Ben isn't driving.

Yeah.

We'll see you there.

Listen, I apologise for not stopping for you.

But at the same time, we weren't on the M25.

Ben wasn't on the clock.

Ben wasn't.

He was a Saturday.

Was I getting paid?

Then it wasn't me.

But that goes against what you said,

because we were hanging out and we weren't getting paid.

No, because we had to finish the video.

Which is why he wanted to get on with it so quickly.

But that doesn't...

I wasn't getting paid.

I feel like a detective of the board.

Because it was a Saturday.

So it's technically I wasn't.

So it goes against your...

No, but that's why.

Because you knew you had to film it.

Because we had to film it that weekend.

Yeah.

So you were like,

right, let me get this done as quick as possible

so I can be out on this, you know, out away from here.

Bloody creamer's slowing me down.

Oh, he wants to talk to me.

How dare you?

I've got limp mode to reach.

Not at that point.

Also, we parked up, man.

I was just manoeuvring my car

through the car park.

No, no, it's not.

Look, we remember and the creams remember.

They will remember.

And they have a very, very long memory.

I was going to say vivid too.

They do.

Yeah.

And they often remind me of it.

One more ring thing.

And that's from you, Edwin.

You said all roads at the ring.

All roads lead to the ring.

I think it's about the fact that there are many all roads at the ring.

Oh, sorry.

I thought you were saying the quote,

all roads lead to the ring.

No, all roads at the ring.

And I was going to say,

I don't remember saying that.

I think that's true.

There are, we are a fan of the Audi all road on this podcast.

In fact, I've been trying to talk my partner into buying one

to get rid of her a bath.

Unfortunately, I let her use my E36 for a day.

Now we're buying an E36.

So it's not, it's not good.

Wish me luck.

But everywhere at the ring,

just, and in Germany, just all roads,

I believe that there is a secret subculture of people in the know.

They're all buying, like people like Doug Demuro,

buying those Mercedes Formatic,

what are they called?

The all terrain things.

Why does it seem like everyone with a bit of money is like,

I'm not buying something flash.

I'd like to know why is,

why the high volume of all roads and things?

Toe with them.

I don't know about that.

But they are.

Because a lot of people tow their cars that, right?

All the A's, no, but this was just general NPC traffic fodder.

But there was a modified one that was very nice.

They have more extreme weathers than us.

True.

And also useful.

They're air suspension, so they're mad soft.

They're real comfy.

I see an A6 already in my future, a C7.

I will have one.

You see how many are you going to buy?

Seven of them.

Lots of them.

I see seven.

I'm not going to have a whole fleet.

I'm German.

I'm over all German.

I think I'll get seven of them at once.

Yeah, the TCs do well.

That's a little, little one to the week.

I like them.

And the new one we saw.

Sumptuous.

Very, very, very nice.

I want to subject over the Fiesta, which is somewhat recent.

We would like to talk about the Fiesta's past.

Now, we theorized about this due to what we found.

Again, we've got a friend.

We've got, we found a new partner.

And we thought, okay, they look nice.

They look very honest.

And then all of a sudden you start to see some signs

about their previous past, perhaps like a tattoo.

They are a friend.

They always wear long sleeves.

And then one day you accidentally see,

I don't know, I can't say something on their leg arm.

That's a sleeve.

That was what the Fiesta was.

It had drilled holes in the bumper.

It had dodgy paint.

There were things missing.

We also found out in the most recent video that, you know,

even some of the hubs were slightly different.

There were lots of differences.

And after the first video went live,

we got sent lots of messages saying,

an alarming amount of people said that they owned it.

Yeah, three different messages saying that was my old car.

And then the main one we got is that someone just googled the plate,

which we should have done.

Rookie era.

Now I did do that and nothing ever came up.

Really?

I did that multiple times.

So I don't know how they managed to find those.

Must be in the Fiesta circles.

Because I looked on Google multiple times about that plate,

because I thought the same thing.

Do we have the V5?

We can see how many owners it had.

It's not many.

It's like five previous.

Oh, so all of them have got in contact?

Yeah, but that's official owners.

But it was originally owned by a tuner,

Demon Performance Center, I think.

So I think it's a well regarded place.

They do like revo tuning and whatever else.

But it was basically their demo car.

But it was a brand new car.

They fitted a load of mods to it.

So that car was very, very nice.

Big turbo.

Had a carbon bonnet, had two compromotives,

big turbo, all sorts.

Can we put a photo?

Then I saw another message from someone who said,

yeah, that was my car.

It was about 330 horsepower.

Engine blew up.

So they put another engine in it.

So the engine that's in it is of indeterminate mileage

and condition and anything else.

And it's now standard.

So confirm what we thought.

It was a very heavily modified car.

That has had everything taken off of it.

But it's never been on track.

Had a big print.

No, it has now.

We're the first people to have a big car on track.

Of course it has now.

But before we bought it,

part of the selling point while we bought that specific car.

Was not.

It turns out.

Yeah.

Never, never tracks apart from possibly its entire life.

Whole time, whole time.

Also, it proves as well why when we drove it on the motorway,

lit mode.

Yeah, it doesn't.

But another green one.

Yeah.

Yes, that car is used to being mashed up

and then it drives normally and goes,

I'm not a fan of this.

It's got GPS enabled race mode, hasn't it?

That's it.

Every time I was on some sort of twisty B road

and giving it a bit more beans, it was seemed happier.

It doesn't like going on the motorway.

There you go.

So it must be that.

So there we go.

So yeah, we have a fiesta with a dodgy pass.

We need to figure out what we're going to do with it in the long run.

So it doesn't sit in the pit of doom forever.

But we will figure that out.

We have a potential thought of making two fiestas.

One, brackets are cut and shut.

We're going to make two none and crash them both.

That idea is cool.

Don't ruin it.

Sorry.

Don't let too much sleep.

Yeah, cool idea.

It's going to be really good.

Right, what do we got next?

Edwin, you put in here, shout out the police creamers.

I was driving to Febby.

We went to go and see Febby.

I did these guys had to work on the RS6, which will be out soonish.

It will be out.

Thank you, Ben.

That video is out.

No, it won't be out.

It'll be out on the Monday after this.

Great.

It will be out soonish.

I went up to see Febby with some of the other guys

and I happened to stop at a petroleum station.

When I came out, I was a very nice man.

I didn't catch his name, which I'm very upset.

You see something.

It's PC.

I would say it's something like that.

He is a policeman officer and he said,

I'm a big creamer.

Not only that, all of our colleagues, all my colleagues,

also listen and then we pass it separate ways.

But cool.

In my head, I'm like, no, there's enemies.

We don't like each other.

But no, that's cool.

So shout out to the police creamers, PC creamers.

Police feds.

So there are police.

It's the creaming feds.

Police out there who are trying to stop crime.

This, that and the who are listening to us about farts.

Don't don't do that.

Don't, you know, preserve your job.

Also anything you hear on this public, it's not real.

It's not.

Apart from Ben, it's all made up.

Apart from what Ben does.

Particularly farting is not real.

Well, I mean, emergency services are famed for it.

You must be a sworn enemy.

Yeah, not a fan of you.

But yeah, just a quick, you know, every now and then,

if a creamer is encountered in public, shout out to them.

You know what?

Creamers, if you have a notable job,

what does that mean?

That's what it is.

That's a complete example.

Something we might be interested in.

Like Prime Minister of the UK.

Exactly.

I don't think he's listening.

How?

You don't know that, but you don't know that.

But that's why I want to figure it out.

You've got no clue.

I want to see what's the highest ranking human that listens to us.

And we won't dox you.

We'll keep quiet.

Although you will be in the comments.

Can you mess it?

Oh, but you can DM us.

John, this one, this one.

Guys, don't tell anyone.

Put it in the comments.

Don't look.

This one you can message in.

Okay.

Message in.

But if you're willing to comment it, comment it.

If you're not, then DM the cars rule everything

around Instagram on Instagram.

That's the Instagram name handle on Instagram.

You can get a blue tick from Prime Minister of England.

That's what he's at on Instagram.

What do you think?

Suspect.

I think, I think we, well, we've met people at DK though.

Yeah, that was a blister.

That's crazy.

But do we have any sort of high ranking military,

a military general would be great?

I would like a world leader.

I'd like a world leader would be good.

John, I've said this before.

I think there must have been some sort of like A-list celebrity

that knows of TTC.

This is what I think.

Because if you think, right, so like an average video

is going to get, call it half a million views, right?

Well, all right.

Bragg.

That's what I'm saying.

But then if you work out a, like a decent click through rate

on YouTube is like 10%, right?

Oh, pleasure.

All right.

We've got a lot of stats McGee on here.

Completely changed the podcast.

That's what I'm saying.

That's like Bartless just opened up.

I mean, what I'm saying is that's like 5 million people

who have been on YouTube and seen the thumbnail

or have seen the title and you're in the thumbnail.

So hold on.

How did 10% of 500,000 become 5 million?

No, no, no, no, no.

That's the click through rate.

Okay.

It would be 500,000.

Okay.

Times by 10.

Okay.

So let's say, let's say whatever.

It could be more, could be less, whatever.

But let's say it's roughly that.

That then means that then that's 5 million people.

So surely somebody of like big note has a minute.

What is funny?

Somebody of big note.

Someone from big paper notes.

Has been on YouTube.

Someone has been on the money.

Has been on YouTube and has minimum seen the title or thumbnail.

Can I get a guess?

With your face.

Well, the meme that we got sent by someone was that,

do you remember when Justin Bieber did Coachella?

And he was just sat on stage looking at YouTube.

But there was a recommended bar.

It was just a TDC video.

I think that was fake.

I think that was a fake.

Yeah, but that was one of the two companies.

That's why the conversation came from.

The further a field, the more surprised I'd be

as in like in terms of country.

I know we have viewers from afar.

But for the majority, it's Europe and UK,

a little bit of US.

And then every now and then we'll get sent in

someone who is on the North Pole or something.

And perhaps we could actually have them.

But I would like a very famous, a footballer, I'd like.

I wouldn't.

I would care.

I want Maduro to be.

Who's he?

That's the guy that got abducted from what's called?

He's in, was it?

Is it the case?

Arkham Asylum.

Yeah, in Arkham.

Maduro.

Yeah.

Or Batman, whichever one you want.

Michael Cain.

I don't think so.

Or Madea.

I would like.

I would also like.

Michael Cain.

Anne Hathaway.

Your cream podcast.

Anne Hathaway.

And Christopher Nolan.

Right, so you just want kind of extended

Batman universe to be.

They're on set watching.

Give me Tom Hardy.

Or David Beckham.

Tom Hartley.

David Jason.

Who's in the cars?

David us.

Thanks.

Who's famous?

I'd like Ben.

You know what?

All I care is that you watch our video.

What the hell?

Rick Ross.

I reckon he listens to the profile.

Surely.

Rick Ross could be a DJ Khaled.

That'd be good.

Armand of the Walnut.

This is getting very off topic.

I think we've got some big hits.

But let us know if you're attached to fame in some way.

Or not fame, no variety.

Let's call it that.

Or if maybe you're like DJ Khaled's grandson.

Okay.

Or like.

Yeah.

Tenuous links we'll take.

Shout out Noah Evans.

Noah Evans.

Chris Evans' son.

Well, we've spoken to him and met him before.

But we saw him at DK Engineering.

And he potentially wrangled us a tour of a very private collection.

So shout out Noah.

He has.

He's a big creamer.

And he has almost identical MX-5 to you.

VSpec 2.

Shout out VSpec 2 gang.

He's got a top level.

We're not big on MX-5s here.

But in terms of first cars, it's slightly more interesting than many others.

Yeah, kind of sick.

And he enjoys doing skids.

Let's get that turbo.

Come on, man.

Allegedly.

And he now has a generational debt t-shirt.

Hell yeah.

He does indeed.

He's good stuff.

Is it the one that is spelled right or the one that's spelled wrong?

It's correctly spelled.

Nice.

Not that there ever were wrong ones.

No, no.

We'd never do that.

Things that I know would not be want to be done.

All right.

Shall we end on a forum?

Let's end on a forum.

We began with a preamble about we'll falling out of bed.

Don't laugh.

It's not funny.

Because I have actually hurt myself.

I fell out of bed the other night.

And I don't remember falling out of bed.

I woke up out of bed on the floor.

And now my head and my wrist hurts.

And I had no idea to get up, so I considered just sleeping there.

I'd pay to watch that.

Yeah, my wrist is still actually incredible painful.

I think possibly sprained or broken.

And my head hurts from smashing it off my bedside table.

But anyway, I think let's come to the last thing in the podcast.

I could have worded that much smoother.

It will be a forum from a man whose name I don't yet know.

Ben.

Perfect.

This is from Sam Rambo.

123

Hello, Sam.

Now, we started this off by shouting at us.

Just said, Ben, Will, Edwin.

Or let's make some marks.

Okay.

So that caught me.

Hold on.

Exclamation marks, but no upper caps.

Yes, correct.

Okay.

So it's more like a proclamation.

It's Ben.

Just trying to get attention.

Edwin, Will.

It's not anger.

And then what would be the full caps one?

That would be like Ben.

You know, it'd be like more, it'd just be more like, you know,

Model T style.

Okay. What about if it was lower case?

No, no, no uppercase being Ben, but it had an exclamation mark.

I wouldn't read it.

Yeah.

It would be like,

Okay, cool.

Question for the forum.

I'm looking to get my first somewhat sporty car.

At what point do you need to be using premium or high octane fuels?

Do you put it in all your cars because they have additives and whatnot?

I assume modified and tuned cars need it.

But what about a stock Focus ST, for example?

Love your work.

So most cars will tell you.

Yes.

As in they will actually tell you on the fuel flap.

So lots of performance cars will tell you like minimum 97,

minimum 98, but for the most part you probably can.

Yeah.

If you're driving it normally, so it, we've talked about it before,

but fuel is resistant to knock.

Knock is when the fuel detonates before the spark plug.

It detonates the fuel mixture for you, let's say.

Now knock, if you have lots of it, can be very bad for the engine.

Knock tends to only happen at higher RPM when it's when it's under more stress.

Then you're smiling.

You're thinking about farts all over again.

Actually wasn't.

Okay.

And so, so it's usually when you tune a car that you...

Do not tell me you laughed at Tuna.

Hi, Ben.

He is the most basic human being that I've could have ever.

I saw, I heard Tuna and I registered it as Tuna.

I thought that's a little bit funny, but it's part of a different story.

And I saw him laughing.

But you can't, it's been a long day.

Eddie's trying to explain that.

I've tried another case of you hating the creators.

No.

You know that I laugh at Tuna every time.

No one likes Tuna here.

I may or may not have dropped that a little bit deliberately.

So, yes, on a car that has been tuned, it's much more likely and you need to run a fuel

that is more resistant to knock, but especially standard,

especially if you're driving it normally, if you're beating the ass off of it,

maybe worth putting in higher premium fuel on a turbocharged car.

But if you're just driving around normally day-to-day,

you do not need to put the nice fuel in it.

Do whatever it recommends.

Don't worry about doing the extra stuff.

I normally do.

I also...

Performance car, I always...

As long as the price difference isn't insane.

Yeah.

Or I'm not in a place where I can't, I normally do.

Especially if it's turbo or something.

But then I'm driving something that is somewhat modified.

So, I do anyway.

But I normally do just because in my head, it's not doing any harm to do it,

apart from to the wallet, of course.

And there are other properties, some might say,

where it's in terms of keeping fuel systems clean and whatever else.

So, I think it depends on the car.

Like the most part.

The 172, I didn't do it before it's mapped.

Now, I'll only do it.

Now, I'll only put 99 net because that's what it's mapped for.

I have a rule where I always put it in my fun car, my wallet.

So, I know you don't need to, but I did because I was like,

it's, that car was driven, I would do a bit of daily of it.

A little bit, but it was mostly I'm going out for a drive.

So, I was just like, well, if whatever I'm putting in the car,

fuel-wise, it's not commuting fuel.

It's fuel for me to go and have fun.

So, I would always treat it as like that's kind of the cost of running it.

I don't remember the last time in a car I owned,

that was somewhat fun car performance car that I didn't.

And this I absolutely had to.

But I see it as more, almost like setting a precedent where it's like,

this is how I'm going to treat this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, if I do this, then I will do that with other things.

I'll use better quality, whatever oils, blah, blah, blah.

So, I normally do, but it's one of those things you don't get to like work top about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I need to do this unless your car is modified.

Some cars are modified specifically for 99.

And then you are limited to three petrol stations.

So, my like, for instance, the M3, I have that the CSL map is a 99 map.

But if I can only get 95, you can put 95 in it and drive on it.

You can't, you can't beat on it though.

Because it's only, it will only be when you're on higher load and on higher RPM,

that that starts to become a problem.

If you know that you're going to be trundling up the motorway for the next 200 miles,

fine, you will be okay.

So, don't panic and be like, well, I'm going to run out of fuel.

But it's for, if you're going harder, make sure that it is then the minimum,

be that 99, 98, 95, whatever, make sure it's hitting that.

And you can also put octane booster.

I was going to say, if you kept some, I think Motul do an octane booster of sorts at a fuel

system cleaner as well, but there's an octane one that raises the level.

Yeah, they'll tell you like, if you're with this, it'll be, it'll raise it to that.

But if you're that worried about it, keep that in the car,

keep a few bottles of that in the car and you can go and put alcohol in the car and top it up

with something.

You can't do that.

But if you started out with 95, you can bring that up to 97, 98, or 99.

What was premium diesel for?

I don't know that.

I don't understand.

I think there's, I don't know if it's as useful as I normally put an additive in,

in the alpha that basically cleans the system out.

It's meant to keep injectors clean because that's one of the things with diesels is

they get, if injectors fail and they get quite clogged up because it's dirty and

oily system, but I normally do that.

And I, but I don't usually put premium diesel in that I usually use that as a,

I never have done what it is.

It does.

It always feels not like a scam, but it feels like, am I really, is it really worth it?

But I think, yeah, they always say it keeps your fuel system and your engine clean.

But I don't.

I may be in a performance diesel, but I've never had a performance diesel.

But both in the Range Rover and the Alpha, I just, I'm just slapping in

straight red diesel that I've stolen from underneath a van.

Not true.

Please, please creamers.

And he called me a fed earlier on.

Let's look into this guy a little more.

So there it is.

Thank you very much for listening.

Oh, there is also soon, there will be another one of our collecting cars videos.

We'll talk about more in the next podcast, but we went and saw a very cool

collection, Nick sings harder.

You might know his name.

He has some very cool cars, very cool number plates.

He even let us drive some.

So keep an eye on the collecting cars YouTube channel.

And make a shout out to all of the creamers that went and commented and watched and supported.

That genuinely means a lot.

Like that you, you followed us.

You followed us to even though it's a side gig, we're just moonlighting.

There's no, no less TDC than ever before.

But shout out to you for, for going and watching that.

It's very cool.

I've heard rumors that during the Goodwood stream, there were some creamers in the comments too.

Really?

I've heard quite a few messages saying, yeah.

Densalated joke.

Yeah.

Densastream.

Lots of comments.

Yeah, as you can probably tell, we didn't go.

No, we thought, you know what?

We're going to stay impartial.

We're going to let ourselves be bought out for more money next year.

Yeah.

The number wasn't big enough.

Well, the number was, we were called in.

It was real fine.

Ben said, where's the, where's the zeros?

I did.

I mean, was that seven digits?

He said, I don't wake up for that.

No, no, I just want more zeros.

They are all zeros, but that's fine.

They would have been zeros.

And you've got eight zeros there.

Yeah, I know.

Million there.

All right.

Well, thank you very much for listening to this episode of the cream podcast,

number 91.

We will see you next week.

Oh, we may have a guest soon, a little midweek guest.

So we will join you then.

Thank you very much for listening.

Maybe less fart jokes next week.

Please less.

It didn't happen.

No.

Why are you smiling?

Tune out and fart.

Cream.

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AC

assessment

belts done

engine's come out

X5M

McLaren 788HS

Bugatti V16

Paul Shaw

flat crank pin

1987

R50

four door or a five door

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