Can You Trust an Old 911? Fire Risk, Winter Storage, and the Best $100K Air-Cooled Porsche
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Can You Trust an Old 911? Fire Risk, Winter Storage, and the Best $100K Air-Cooled Porsche
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Term
PPI
A PPI is a check-up for a car you want to buy. A mechanic looks at it closely to find any problems that you might not see just by looking at it or taking it for a short drive.
Term
air-cooled
Air-cooled means the engine stays cool by using air instead of liquid. This type of engine is often found in older cars like some Porsches and is known for being simple and reliable.
Part
wheel bearing
A wheel bearing helps your car's wheels turn smoothly. If it gets worn out, you might feel strange vibrations or noises while driving, which can be dangerous.
Term
carbureted motor
A carbureted motor mixes air and fuel using a device called a carburetor. This was how most cars worked before modern fuel injection systems became popular.
Car
air-cooled Porsches
Air-cooled Porsches are cars made by Porsche that don't use water to cool their engines. Instead, they rely on air, which gives them a unique sound and feel when driving.
Term
fuel lines
Fuel lines are pipes that carry fuel from the gas tank to the engine. In older cars, these pipes can wear out and cause problems, like leaks or fires.
Term
carbureted car
A carbureted car is one that uses a device called a carburetor to mix air and fuel so the engine can run. These cars can have problems because they are older and the parts can get stuck.
Car
Porsche 356
The Porsche 356 is an old sports car that was made a long time ago. It's popular among collectors because it's light and fun to drive.
Term
floats
Floats are parts inside a carburetor that help control how much fuel is in the engine. If they get stuck, it can cause too much fuel to flow, making the car hard to start.
Term
ethanol
Ethanol is a kind of alcohol that is mixed with gasoline to help cars run better and create less pollution. However, older cars might have problems with it because their fuel systems weren't made for it.
Term
carburetors
Carburetors are parts in older cars that mix gas and air to help the engine run. Newer cars usually use a different system called fuel injection.
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that has been around for a long time. It's known for being fun to drive and is often talked about because people want to know how to take care of it, especially when storing it for winter or a long time.
Term
flat-spotted tires
Flat-spotted tires happen when a car is parked for a long time, and the part of the tire touching the ground gets flat. This can make the car shake when you start driving it again.
Term
PSI
PSI means pounds per square inch, which is how we measure the pressure in tires. Keeping the right PSI helps the tires work well and keeps you safe while driving.
Term
battery tender
A battery tender is a tool that helps keep a car's battery charged when the car isn't being used often. It makes sure the battery doesn't run out of power.
Car
Porsche Boxster
The Porsche 981 Boxster is a type of sports car that you can drive with the top down. It's known for being fun to drive and has a powerful engine.
Term
cold start
A cold start happens when you start your car after it has been sitting for a while and is cold. This can be bad for the engine because the oil isn't warm enough to flow well and protect the engine parts.
Term
viscosity
Viscosity is how thick or thin a liquid is. For engine oil, it means how easily it flows. When oil is cold, it’s thicker and doesn’t flow as well, which can be bad for the engine.
Term
suspension
The suspension is the part of the car that helps it ride smoothly and stay stable on the road. It includes things like springs and shock absorbers.
Car
Porsche 911 GT3
The Porsche 911 GT3 is a super-fast version of the regular 911, built for people who love racing and driving really fast. It's lighter and has special features that make it handle better on the track, which is why car lovers often talk about it.
Car
F-body
The F-body is a type of car made by Chevrolet and Pontiac, specifically the Camaro and Firebird models. They are popular for their sporty look and performance.
Term
PDK
PDK is a type of automatic transmission used in Porsches that helps the car change gears quickly and smoothly.
Concept
G-body
G-body cars are a type of vehicle made by General Motors that were popular in the late 70s and early 80s. They are known for being fun to drive but can be a bit harder to handle than newer cars.
Car
Porsche 944
The Porsche 944 is a classic sports car from the 1980s and 1990s that many people enjoy driving. It's known for being fun to handle and is usually cheaper than other Porsches, making it a popular choice for those who want a classic car.
Term
paint job
A 'paint job' is when a car is repainted to make it look nicer or to fix damage. It's important for keeping the car in good shape.
Term
rust
Rust is when metal gets damaged and turns flaky or brown because of moisture. It's bad for cars because it can make them weaker.
Term
paint to sample
Paint to sample means you can pick a special color for your car that isn't normally available. It's a way to make your car unique, but it can be very expensive.
Car
Porsche Carrera T
The Porsche Carrera GT is a very rare and super-fast car made in the early 2000s. It's famous for its powerful engine and is often talked about because it's a dream car for many car enthusiasts.
Term
Safari
Safari is a way to modify cars, especially Porsches, to make them better for off-road driving while still looking cool. It's like giving a sporty car some rugged features.
Car
Porsche Cayenne
The Porsche Cayenne is a fancy SUV that can go off-road and is fun to drive. It's well-liked for its powerful performance and stylish design.
Car
Porsche 718
The Porsche 718 is a type of sports car made by Porsche. It has a mid-engine design, meaning the engine is located in the middle of the car, which helps it handle better on the road. It comes with a four-cylinder engine that is turbocharged, giving it good power while being more efficient with fuel.
Car
Porsche 981
The Porsche 981 is the model name for a specific generation of Porsche sports cars, including the Boxster and Cayman, made between 2012 and 2016. It features better performance and handling than earlier versions.
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Welcome to Renthusiast Radio, the podcast where Will and Derek navigate the winding roads of Porsche Obsession,
exploring the good and the bad of Porsche ownership.
Grab your favorite beverage, pull up a chair and join us, Renthusiast Radio, because life's too short not to talk about Porsches.
Welcome to Renthusiast Radio, I'm Will and I'm Derek.
And this episode is going to be a little bit different than our usual, so Derek pinged me the other day and said,
hey man, let's ask our audience to submit any questions or thoughts or opinions that they wanted us to discuss on air as it were.
And, you know, in the past we thought about doing this, but we hadn't yet reached the critical momentum, I think, to do it.
Derek and I checked our analytics, at least on the YouTube channel over the past month, and man, I am shocked.
I haven't really looked at this, and so I just want to share this information with you, Derek, because A, it's very, very flattering.
And, you know, B, it tells me that we have, I think, enough traction and enough interest in our blathering on about Porsche
that we would get some people who asked, who would like us to answer questions on an episode.
And so that, we're at 50,000 views, at least on YouTube per month, in our lifetime views on this podcast.
And again, this is YouTube, this is not Spotify, this is not Apple, 623,000 lifetime views.
So that's 623,000 fools.
No, it's probably not individual, but 623,000 foolish moments people engaged in to watch us talk about these cars.
And so, it's the setup, Derek, I just wanted to...
Well, that's a lot of people on lawnmowers listening to us.
God, and that's not even, you know, again, including the actual podcast.
So very, very honored, you know, Derek, this thing, and we'll get into this in a moment.
This thing started off with a pilot of 10 episodes where you and I agreed to just do 10 and, you know, just see where it went from there, man.
So what do you think? You've got the questions in front of you.
What thoughts do you have on this, though, first?
Well, I will say this, that on the audio side, because I kind of track a little bit more of that,
we're at least that, if not more.
So there's maybe up to 100,000 people a month that listen to our stupid Shane Anagans and our misinformed opinions.
And so thank you all for your allowances and, you know, giving us at least some part of your time.
It really is such a pleasure. I've been spending a lot of time with Porsche friends on the weekends,
meeting a lot of new people, and everyone is just so kind.
Everyone is listening. Everyone has opinions.
And I think that kind of the way we approach this of just two regular guys with differing opinions,
kind of shooting the crap, but two friends just talking about Porsche resonates.
And my deepest thanks to everyone out there, because it is great.
And my plug, as always, is to check out Will's other videos on this YouTube channel.
Check out 11 After 9 on my YouTube channel, where we talked about the Carrera Tee last week, which is pretty cool.
And also, share this with your driving groups.
You know, it's funny, a lot of people will listen to us through YouTube.
They'll put it on the background. They describe just having the two of us up there.
When I was at Lufka Colt, people would like see me and kind of point.
And they'd be like, oh, yeah, I know your face. What's your name again?
And a couple people call me Will, which I took great offense to, but that's fine too.
But they know our faces because they listen to our podcast over YouTube.
But share with your driving groups. You know, on Apple, on Spotify,
you guys can catch us anywhere on the audio side.
Now, I do edit the podcast to have some cool pictures if we're talking about cars and stuff,
so you would miss that out. But on your way to work, hopefully,
we can make your Tuesday mornings a little less dreary.
So with that, Will, yeah, we got some really great questions from the listeners.
A whole smattering. We're going to shoot from the hip.
We really haven't talked about any of these.
And so we're just going to kind of go from...
We're not going to be able to get to all of them because there's a lot.
So I'm going to throw you a softball, Will.
And then we'll... Oh, here we go. Here's a softball.
Would you drive air-cooled in the middle of nowhere with your kid?
Can you depend on it?
I mean, I think you're running a risk.
Let's imagine you're in a very defined time frame and, you know,
your destination on the other end is essential that you get there
at the predetermined time and day.
I mean, I think it's a little bit risky,
but I think it's also about how long have you owned the car
and, you know, is it battle test that have you done rallies in the car?
You know, have you driven it around town repeatedly?
Did it start every time?
I think you got to shake it down.
A new to you car that you fly by and drive and take your kid with you.
Like, what a wonderful memory maker. So great.
But if it's an air-cooled car, you need to just build in at least the emotional idea
that you could get stuck and then you got to say to yourself,
hey, that's part of the adventure.
That's part of the story.
So those are my initial thoughts on that question, Derek.
I mean, what do you think, bud?
I think on the water-cooled side, I think that you have a far better chance.
I know we're talking about air-cooled here,
but it's all about getting a PPI if you were to do a fly-by and drive,
especially if you're bringing your child.
I've done it.
It's one of my most favorite things to do, no doubt.
But on an air-cooled side, I absolutely do think they're reliable
to drive to the middle of nowhere.
I have. I've brought my kids.
My caveat is that you need to be super up to date on your maintenance.
And so if I'm taking any big trips with my car, I'll bring it to my shop,
even beyond my eyes, and I'll have them go through it just to make sure,
because a wheel bearing can go.
You might not hear it, but you start to feel it,
and it can get pretty bad in about 800 miles.
Or if you have some leaky or some ball joints that are going,
that you hit a couple of good potholes and you're in tough shape.
So I would get it checked out, but I think air-cooled absolutely are reliable.
As a matter of fact, I'm even going to go so far as to say this.
In a lot of ways, well, I'd actually think bringing an air-cooled
is more reliable than bringing one of the more modern water-cooled,
because I'm going to talk about my 72.
I have a carbureted motor and not much else.
And so it's either it's air, it's fuel, it's spark.
If something's not working, and generally I can suss out what it is.
I don't have the sensors in a new car that if something's wrong
with the convertible top and it gets stuck in a weird position
and all of a sudden my car won't start,
because it doesn't think the top is open or closed or whatever,
and all of a sudden I'm calling AAA.
So I think air-cooled cars can be more reliable
as long as your maintenance is done,
because there's less to go wrong sometimes.
That's my take.
Okay, so I really, I have a wooden desk here,
and I'm going to knock on it.
I have done tens of thousands of miles
in air-cooled Porsches on road trips,
and that's probably been, I'm scared,
and I'm also embarrassed about what I'm getting ready to say.
I'm not sure how many I've owned.
I guess I would have to go back and kind of tabulate it.
Five, I don't know, six, I don't know,
but yeah, it has to be.
I digress.
I'm laughing because I can't remember how many I've owned.
The point is, none of them have ever left me stranded,
knock on wood.
You know, I have had, on my first 993,
like the math sensor started to go,
so the car would stumble,
but I still was able to make it home doing that,
and I think it took me about four hours to get home.
So, I mean, from a practical evidence-based standpoint,
you know, I've been fortunate there,
and so maybe I would agree with you too,
to do the air-cooled or maybe a little bit more reliable in a way.
We'll read out the people that took the time to write these questions.
So, from MT Bone 7, Will,
do you guys keep fire extinguishers in your air-cooled cars,
and what's the danger? Thanks.
I have. I don't currently. I should.
That's an oversight. Thanks for the reminder.
It's not, it's a very easy thing to do.
I can't remember off the top of my head.
There are like the legit fire extinguishers,
like the traditional ones you see where you need to strap it down,
and then there are like the road flare-looking ones.
Yes.
You know, and you just throw those in the door pocket of the older cars,
and, you know, every now and then on Facebook,
you will see a photo being shared of like a 964 that got torched from the back,
and it's because I think the fuel lines are a little bit of a risky proposition
sometimes in the older cars where they haven't been sorted,
and so fires can happen, like it's a thing,
and I would say that, as I said, I have, I don't currently, I should.
I'm going to snag a couple of them.
Yeah. You can definitely get them in these little mounts that sit in front of the passenger seat.
You can have them behind the passenger seat.
You know, small bottles. They tend to rattle,
so you just have to be prepared that if that annoys you,
that always annoys me.
What I do with my 72 is just like you said,
you can get these road flare-looking fire extinguishers.
I have three of them in my door pocket.
The things that can go wrong, especially in a carbureted car,
I mean, you're dealing with fuel.
So these cars are old.
Like you said, fuel lines, sometimes the carbs get stuck open,
especially if there's any debris, and it's not uncommon.
I remember with my 356, if it sat for any length of time,
I would worry that the floats would get stuck,
and I'd be backing out of my garage,
and I'd always hop out.
I'd back out with the rear lid open,
and I'd hop out and check because it wouldn't be,
with the ethanol and the fuel,
it would keep the float open and the carbs would flood,
and all of a sudden you'd have a stream of fuel
that was on the ground.
And so it happens with the older cars,
and you don't want to be somewhere and be on fire.
So those little ones are awesome.
On fire, no bueno.
On fire, no bueno, because then you wouldn't be a Porsche,
you'd be a Ferrari.
So moving on, Will,
let me see if I can find another good one here.
Can you address the best practices for winterizing your 911
or preparing it for long-term storage?
Will, have you ever had a car long-term to store it?
Oh, no.
And where I live in North Carolina, I mean, I don't need to do that.
So I have zero experience with that.
Derek, maybe you can add some value here.
Yeah, seeing that I have to unfortunately put away my collection
for many months during the year, I will definitely answer that.
I don't go overboard.
I know a lot of people do.
What I will do is I'll make sure that the tires are inflated
just because almost always they do get flat-spotted a little bit
for sitting for many months in the cold.
So I might over-inflate them a couple PSI, but nothing too huge.
I'll make sure that before I put the car away,
I take it for a long, hard drive and get the oil really, really, really hot.
And that burns out any of the moisture that's collected in the oil that would sit.
And so I hope that I've extinguished the issue of any kind of water in the motor.
And finally, I make sure that I fill the gas tank up to the tip of the top.
I do put in a stabilizer because of the ethanol.
I try to eliminate the ethanol sitting and the gas going bad.
And then finally, I always have my cars on tenders.
And I keep the batteries up to date, especially for my 981 Boxster,
which if the battery goes dead, you can't get into the front trunk very easily
because it's electronically actuated.
And so that becomes a whole thing.
Do you start them in the winter at least?
No.
Okay, just leave it.
I don't.
No, I don't.
And I know that that's the thing.
People say I pull them out once a month and I let them run and warm them up.
And everyone I've talked to, and again, listen, this is the internet forms of death.
I could be wrong.
I'm a podcast nobody.
And so just take my advice for what it's worth, which is next to nothing.
But essentially, if you are pulling it out once a month and letting it warm up for a half an hour,
you're not getting the motor up to temperature.
And so the oil is not getting hot and any moisture you have in there, that's an issue.
And also, you know, if a car sits for a long time and you do a cold start,
there is a period of time where the oil is not flowing, right?
It has to, the viscosity has to change and you have to get it in every nook and cranny in the motor.
And I only want to do that once in the spring.
I don't want to do it every month where I'm potentially not doing damage, right?
Unless you're doing it high RPMs when you're warming it up.
But I just think leave it, put it into stasis and then pull it out once,
warm it up and immediately take it on a really long drive to get everything going.
I don't know if you found this with your old cars.
I mean, my old Porsches have a personality and they are grumpy as hell when they're cold.
I remember my 993 was like that.
But especially my G-bodies, Birdie, my 72, it's a different car.
If you're driving it for the first 10 or 15 minutes, it doesn't, the engine's hesitant.
The suspension doesn't, it just doesn't feel right.
It gets warm and after about a half an hour, it's a completely different car.
And it is funny how they change after a good warm up and a good drive.
Yep.
Yep.
Even my 997, you know, an 09 does that too.
So maybe it's just characteristic.
Yep.
Maybe it's a Porsche thing.
Absolutely love the podcast by Rohan19921.
What's a good first air-cooled car that will pair well with my 991.2 GT3 PDK for under $100,000?
So I wonder if that's their first 911 that they got is a GT3 991.2.
But what do you think under 100K air-cooled parent with a GT3?
You already know what I'm going to say.
Go ahead.
993.
993.
So call it 80,000 mile and up, I think would get you in under 100.
In an ideal world, you find one that has already had the rentless checklist done, the acceptable expected mods.
So you don't have to spend another, I don't even know, 5 to 10.
It's been a while now to get it there.
And I think you can do that for under 100.
Do you think you can still get them for under 100 with 80,000 miles?
You can.
All right.
Everything I'm seeing is over, but I don't look everywhere you do.
I would probably say to get an F-body, a good F-body, you probably aren't going to get it under 100.
Good being the operative word.
Good being the operative word.
And actually, so I would probably say get yourself a G-body.
Get yourself an SC or a G50 for like 70 or 80, maybe 85, a really good one.
I think that the Venn diagram is not going to be overlapping on that.
You can have your GT3 for fun, fast PDK work.
The G-body is modern enough that you can drive it a lot.
But at the same time, it will give you that old school air-cooled feel that you're looking for.
I think if you went with a 356, you'd be disappointed just because there's such a vastness between those two things.
You're too far when it comes to that spectrum.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Yeah, man, I might say that if you're thinking through a G-body, an older car,
you got to ask yourself how hard you want to work when you're driving it too.
So the 993 offers that mechanical analog experience.
You do have to work for the reward.
It is a sort of like artistry to get the car to really harmonize.
It's not as much physical work though as the G-bodies.
And so just like the pedal action and the steering action on those older cars is going to require more effort.
Which honestly, I think might be a good thing compared to the GT3.
Have a car that makes you work, makes you sweat a little bit.
You get out of it and you're tired.
I think that the analog nature of a G-body is a good mix in my mind.
Mill and Bob, this one actually got a bunch of thumbs up.
Who are you, Will?
As in what do you guys do for a living?
How did you become friends, et cetera?
Okay, so that's a very existential question.
Who are you?
Who are you, Will?
Get back on my couch.
I'm still creating myself.
I don't know, man.
You want to kick it off here?
Yeah, I mean, you always have to be careful with what you share on the internet.
But my name is Derek.
Hello.
I grew up outside of Boston.
But most of my life, I've been in New Hampshire for about a decade and a half.
And so I consider myself a New Hampshireite.
What do I do for a living?
I am tangentially, I'm in the medical field.
So for those people that I think someone said they picture me as owning a construction company
in one of the comments a long time ago, which I got a kick out of.
And I think that's a real compliment.
So thank you.
But I do work full-time and I live portion full-time.
And I have a wonderful family and live in New Hampshire.
And so I think that's about where I am, Will.
How about you?
All right, so what was it like?
Who are you?
What do you do for a living?
And we got to talk about how we became friends.
Yeah, okay.
So let me start here.
People ask me a lot on my channel, like, what do you do for a living?
I mean, I've been very fortunate enough to be able to kind of purchase multiple cars
and have many of them sitting side by side.
And so I'm in the world of business.
I don't really want to get into a lot of the details there.
I'm a shareholder in a company is what it is.
And I kind of do get conflicted when I get questions about what do I do for a living,
especially from folks that are starting off their career.
And I think what they're trying to do there is trying to think through success and what do they need to do to find their path.
And so I will kind of maybe give a little bit of information there,
or at least kind of some key lessons I've learned as I've worked my way up through life.
So, I mean, I'll leave it at that.
I don't really want to get into the details of all of that.
I also think, you know, for me and Derek, we keep this around like this channel is about Porsche, you know,
and our experiences, it's not necessarily about, you know, financial position or what we do.
But I don't follow people for asking because I do, I know that with podcasts that I love to listen to,
I feel like I know the host.
I feel like I have a window into their life.
And I'm genuinely curious because I care about them.
I care about like, where do they come from?
You know, do they have kids, you know, all this stuff.
So I completely get asking, but the internet's a strange place and you can get a lot of stuff that adds up
and it's amalgamation and people find out and sometimes it's a little much.
Isn't that interesting?
I mean, I've grappled.
I mean, I've been on YouTube since I think 2018.
And I've grappled with the idea of like, how much self-disclosure do I want to give in my content?
Because to your point, I think people do, they spend a lot of time with you in 2D, you know,
because if you pumped out a lot of content, you know, unfortunately for people who for whatever reason decide to watch you,
like there's a lot to consume.
And of course, through that process, I think they start to understand your personality and kind of your mentality.
And so they do get to know you, but you know, it's like, do they want to know more about us on the personal side?
And so...
It's a compliment.
I really take it as such.
Let's get into the other piece though.
It's like, how do we become friends?
Do you want to start?
Yeah.
So a couple of years ago, I was, you know, obviously I've been a...
For my entire life, I've been a huge Porsche owner, love the brand, experienced a lot of different cars.
And so in the Porsche world, I became tangentially aware of Will through his YouTube channel and checked out some of his videos.
And it always struck me just how relatable Down to Earth kind of kind he was in terms of how he presented it.
And I was like, you know what?
He seems like a good dude.
And so I reached out to him and I said, hey man, love what you do.
I have a big history with Porsche.
You do too.
Let's get on the phone.
Like, what do you think about maybe doing a podcast together?
I don't think you've done one.
I think it'd be cool to do one together.
And it was like, let's just...
Maybe it was after a glass of wine I reached out.
I don't know.
But then you got back to me and you were like, yeah, man, I've been thinking about doing that.
Let's get on the horn and let's talk.
Yeah.
So I get a fair number of messages via Instagram, especially, but also my website, renthusias.com,
people message me there.
And you know, it's kind of interesting.
You'll get these messages and Derek, you've been getting them too.
Like it's a shit sandwich.
It's, hey man, I love your content.
That's the section one.
Section two is full of questions that they're looking for free advice on.
Then the third one is, yeah, keep it up, man.
Love your content, you know?
So, and I don't mean to be, you know, it's very cool that people reach out and they care enough
and they watch your stuff.
And so that's definitely flattering.
But you know, sometimes a message, I don't know, for random reasons, I'll just be like,
oh, okay, I'll bite.
And as I recall, you reached out to me, I believe it was on Instagram and you're like, hey,
have you ever thought about doing a podcast?
And I'm like, yeah, I have thought about doing a podcast.
A couple of reasons for that.
I felt like it would be easier to create good content by virtue of not having to script
and to shoot, you know, dynamic video and to set up like the cameras in the cars and travel
to go see an owner that I want to interview about their car.
Like there's a lot that goes into that.
I think people miss that when they watch YouTube channels.
It's just how much, it's ideation, it's scripting.
There's just a lot there.
So a podcast to me seemed appealing because, you know, for those reasons, the second reason
I thought it was going to be an easier idea is I believe that, you know, rather than coming
up with a one way script for a video, it's more enjoyable for me as a content creator
to have a conversation with someone and make it organic and just kind of see where the
whole thing goes.
And frankly, to have a teammate to be aligned with like in my business life, I have a business
partner who I'm super close with.
And I just know that it's been great to have somebody on the same team trying to achieve
the same goals.
So I thought, hey, if I found a partner, that would make sense.
And so lo and behold, when that thought process was there, I had been thinking about it for
like six months, but just never pulled the trigger because I didn't want to fiddle around
with all the technical end of things, you know, like learning cameras and mics and all that
shit.
I mean, that's enough, you know.
So anyway, Derek approached me and for whatever reason, I grabbed the message we jumped on
the phone and we shot the breeze for like an hour and it just seemed like we resonated.
I mean, Derek was easy to talk to, very agreeable.
And so we nailed down the idea of, let's do a podcast.
Let's, let's just do 10 episodes and we'll pile them and we'll see, hey, can we trust
each other and do we vibe and can we get along and if the 10 go well, let's do more.
And so there's that.
And we developed a relationship over the course of shooting the shit on air and also off air
and so it's gone from there.
I'll also say this, YouTube is a very hungry animal.
And so, you know, if you're not publishing content readily, your channel will kind of
languish.
And after Derek and I did several episodes, many episodes I should say, and I haven't
really talked about this on the channel, I unfortunately separated from my wife and
ended up moving out.
And so I just didn't have like the garage set and the, I didn't have access to the
things that I needed to shoot these videos that I had been shooting.
And so, you know, to keep the channel alive by having this podcast on YouTube, like it
did a couple of things for me.
I mean, number one, it kept the content pumping out and I had a partner helping me with it,
which was just absolutely huge.
And, you know, this is, this is another thing.
If you guys are out there, if you're anything like me, you find that, you know, getting into
a conversation about these cars and our passion and our hobby, like it's really cathartic.
You kind of forget about other things when you're doing it.
And, you know, I had a very challenging year during that period of time there because you
well know.
And so it's always nice to get on and just forget about all that stuff and, you know,
just shoot the shit about Porsche.
I always walked away from our recording sessions just feeling a little bit better, man.
So, you know, I don't know if that answers the question, but that's my story.
I mean, I think in a weird kind of way, you can say that we became friends because of
this and I consider you a very good friend.
And, you know, to the point where I'd loaded up my car and went out and hung out with you
for a week, you know, and we had a hell of a time.
And so, yeah, it's good stuff.
And you've been drawn into the intercar counseling circle now.
So, as my erratic ADHD passion for the hobby unfolds, you know, and if you guys are anything
like me, and I guess you are because I have other buddies that are like this, like, you
have an idea, you start looking at a car, you're calling your buddies, you're running,
you're craziness by them, and you're getting a sense for like, holy shit, am I way off
base?
Am I nuts?
Or would you do this?
And so Derek is definitely, he's on this short list of guys that I jump on the phone
with to talk through decisions to buy yourself.
Yeah, our text chain, if you were to look at the pictures of cars that go back and forth
on a weekly basis, number one, you'd be like, wow, this is kind of random.
And then also, holy crap, there's a lot of cars on this.
So, but it's good, man.
I mean, we all have that thing.
I do it with you.
I do it with my brother.
You know, you're on Facebook and you're like, tell me I'm crazy.
Tell me I shouldn't do this.
Talk me out of this, please.
Walk me off the ledge.
I want this project.
Yeah, it's rusty, but we can bring it back and I can buy it for cheap.
Dude, dude, I drive by.
I don't know if I mentioned this in the podcast, but I was going to work the other day and
I drove by a random house and they have a 944 turbo in the yard from, I think it was
like an 87 or 88.
And it's been languishing there for years, at least five years in the weather.
And like, I just look at it and then I, of course, dream of what could be.
I'm like, oh, I wonder if there was a for sale sign in the window, but it's all faded
and fallen down.
It's a piece of shit car.
And so I eventually stopped and put my business card in the mailbox and I was like, hey, call
me because I tried calling the number and the for sale sign had been there for so long
that the number had changed.
And so the guy called me and I was like, hey, listen, man, I know it's been out there for
a while and I'm like, dude, I mean, it needs a paint job.
There's rust.
I mean, there's no way I should have bought this car.
But I mean, like a Porsche addict, I'm like, what if, you know, maybe I can make it a rally
944 turbo, make it a Safari.
And dude, dude literally on the phone goes, yeah, it's worth eight grand.
I want eight or $9,000 for it.
And I was like, I'm sorry, what?
I mean, I literally thought like with this condition that he was going to say, hey, can
you just get it out of my yard?
Like you can have it.
Like that's the kind of condition or maybe 500 bucks.
He wanted $8,000.
And I said, I said, sir, if on marketplace you can get a turbo for 12 or 15.
I mean, this needs a $20,000 paint job.
It needs $30,000 in rust repair and who knows what the motor looks like.
But what are you going to do?
Right?
That's why I was sitting.
That's why it's that.
That's why it's that, but you know, it's those kind of things like tell me, tell me it's
crazy.
So anyways, I consider you a very good friend.
Well, and I think, I think only more so as it goes forward.
So that answers that question a little bit lighter question from, um, oh, actually for
also from Millen Bob.
What are your favorite PTS colors?
I saw that sample for those of you that are out there paint the sample.
So, uh, Porsche offers their regular colors that you can choose to buy a car in.
Sometimes they have special colors.
The paint to sample colors are very limited.
Uh, usually they only have so many spaces that they're willing to do that and they open
up their back catalog of colors that you can paint your Porsche in.
Um, and then there's actually a tier above that.
Is it paint to sample plus where you can like bring any color and they'll match it.
But that's super duper expensive 30, 40 grand, but paint to sample is usually like 15 grand,
something like that.
Um, and you can look at their, their back catalog.
What do you think?
Well, um, I think that I can't right off the top of my head.
Tell you like a favorite.
Um, Wimbledon, Wimbledon green is cool.
I, I looked at, I have a GTS 992.2 GTS arrow kit car spec and submitted and I went with
Fjord green there.
So the greens and the blues are cool for me.
Um, a comment that I will make it's, it's interesting and I just, maybe you're going
to be able to weigh in on this.
Wimbledon green friend of mine has a 964 C2 and Wimbledon green.
Gorgeous.
Unbelievable.
But I think what you'll find sometimes is pulling some of those, you know, this older colors
into a newer car.
It just doesn't work for some reason.
Right.
Have you noticed that?
Isn't that weird?
Especially greens.
Greens are really tough.
It has to be the right shade of green because I find that green can really date a car.
If you, and it also very dependent on body shape too.
Like, like a green, uh, looks amazing on a classic air cooled 911, like an F body.
They look great on some 993s.
Green is tough on like the, the 2000s cars.
Boxsters in 996s unless it's kept up.
But green really shows its age if you're not careful and it can, some, there are some
colors like some of the blues and a guards red that the car can look younger than its
years, but sometimes I feel like green, especially if it's not paired with a beige interior.
It can be tough.
Yeah.
I don't know what it is.
I was kind of coming at, coming at that from the standpoint of a, um, you know, the body
lines.
It's just, to me, it's, it's mystifying and I don't know.
I'm sure that somebody smarter than I could, uh, could tell, tell you why that is.
So I don't know, man, to answer your question, I think it's a mixed bag.
I can't just sit here and whip out like my favorite paint to sample colors.
I do have some thought on it, thoughts on it.
Uh, I have played with that before when I specced a 992 Carrera T.
So I think if you're in the thick of it, you start to memorize some of these colors
because you're dreaming.
But if you're not, for me, if I'm not like in the middle of buying something and speccing
it, then I'm not really thinking about it.
Don't want you to whip it out when it comes to the PTS because then it'd be a mature
podcast and then we'd be in a whole different vertical.
For me, it's looking at him going down that path.
Ooh, going blue.
I am going to go blue.
Dude's a man child over here.
I've been called worse.
Speaking of going blue, uh, my PTS would definitely be would fall in the blue category.
I love Aga blue.
Aga blue was a color from the 60s and early 70s.
Uh, Albert blue, which is my car now is beautiful and fantastic on my body style.
It doesn't, it depends on what kind of modern car it's on, but Albert blue doesn't always
work because I feel like with Albert, which is a dark navy blue.
It's kind of a non-metallic.
You have to have chrome to offset the blue to make it look really classy.
And sometimes if you have Albert blue with black, it doesn't look the same.
Aga blue is like a smoky blue.
It's like there's gray in there and it's a really interesting color.
And for those people that like those kind of matte gray colors, Aga blue is a much more
interesting version of that.
So, um, check that out.
Uh, if you get a chance, um, how big is your non-U.S. audience?
Uh, greetings from Sweden, by the way.
So I actually took a peek.
Well, I'm going to, you know, your YouTube, we know the YouTube side, but from an audio
side, we're only two thirds U.S. and the rest international.
And I'm looking at my, uh, I'm looking at my studio right now, which is the app that
you use to track your, uh, YouTube analytics.
So go ahead.
Hey, so Sweden, we are, uh, Sweden represents 1.17% of our listenership.
So thank you, sir or ma'am, whoever you may be.
Um, that's fantastic.
Yeah.
This is interesting.
I used to, well, I should say periodically I'll go and look at who, who is watching me.
So there's good demographics, uh, in this thing.
So ready for this.
So age, um, 10, 10%, 25 to 34, 35 to 44 years old is 21.7.
And then 45 to 54 is 28.3.
So basically the bulk of, well, I shouldn't say the bulk, more people in our age bracket
are watching.
So anyway, kind of lame, 96 and a half percent male.
I mean, interesting to think about.
However, 3.5% are female.
And I'm going to tell you, like that's up because it used to be 99.9% were dudes.
Does it happen?
Did it, did it go up when this guy joined the podcast?
Just saying.
It's the haircut and the beard, the beard trim.
It's always immaculate.
So yeah.
Not going to take all the credit, but I'm just saying it's impeccable.
It's all additive.
Yeah.
I'd have to go back and research that.
Stay tuned, Derek.
All right.
You do that.
So geography in the last 28 days, United States, 61.8% on the channel, it says.
Then 6.2% in Canada and then the UK is 6.1.
0.7% viewers on this channel are in Sweden.
So anyway, interesting.
Two thirds.
Two thirds.
All right.
Cool.
The rest international.
Moving on.
Oh, this one is a personal favorite.
I'm going to, I'm going to ask this, Will, from Oliver Glazier.
What Porsche 911 models do you think are best to Safari and why?
What Porsche EVs excite you the most current or upcoming or rumored?
So let's answer the first one first.
If you had to Safari one car, give me a generation and give me a model.
I mean, look, dude, first of all, actually, I'm not going to say what I was going to say.
Why?
Why?
Because I feel like the safaris are passe.
I feel like their moment has passed to a certain degree.
I mean, there was this fever like Lee Keen's builds, second to none, killer.
I don't know.
Like, I don't know.
That's just my take on it.
Maybe I'm wrong and maybe all I'm doing is reflecting the fact that, you know, I learned about them.
I got super excited about them and then my enthusiasm waned because if you've seen one, you've seen them all.
So maybe I'm just wrong.
I don't know.
But I think G-Body is the answer for the caveat.
The problem is the value is out of control.
So, you know, it made sense to Safari and SC when it was low 30s.
When they're trading at 70, like that's a tough proposition to rip into that car.
For sure.
You know, and even the beat up ones, I mean, they're going for big money.
So I don't know.
You see guys going like into 996 territory and Safari knows, which I'm like, I don't know.
I don't know about that.
So I don't know.
I'm kind of like, I'm lukewarm on having this discussion because I'm not super excited about it.
What do you think?
I think we're both in agreement.
I think that the 80s, 911s, I think looked the coolest.
They, I think that in a safari world, that steering from an 80s car is perfect because it gives you all the feedback.
You can feel every bump and every rut.
And so if you're going to be driving it sideways on dirt roads, I feel like you feel super connected.
And there's really no filtering between the wheels and your fingertips.
And so for those reasons, I think the G body is fantastic.
I can understand and appreciate rallying earlier cars, but for what you're saying, they're so valuable.
And also if you were to damage them, they're so expensive to repair.
I actually think, listen, you can Safari a Cayenne all day long and they're cool.
So they look really badass if you do it right, for sure.
You give a lot away to drivability, but if you're going to take it off road, they're great stock,
but they're even better when you start to dig into them.
But if I'm going to be like a little like hoon and I just want to like picture something that's kind of fun,
give me a 996 4S or maybe a 997.1, but let's just say 996 4S rallied out with Rotiform wheels.
Give me the rack, give me the lights, give me the right stance, get it raised.
That's a good place to be. Well, I like it.
All right, man. That's it.
That's it. So listen, for all of you that we haven't been able to get to your questions, God knows there's lots more.
Maybe we'll do another one of these and just let us know down in the comments if this is something you guys found valuable
or did you click off after five minutes, but I enjoyed kind of kicking around on these
and there's definitely a lot more that we can get to next time.
Yeah, and I'll say this too, topic suggestions.
Some of those could be construed from the questions that have been asked.
And that said, in the comments at least below this video, if you have any specific topics,
that'd be appreciated because with the passion for the brand and the hobby,
I mean, Derek and I don't have a lot of problems coming up with new topics,
but any assistance from the viewer base out there and coming up with good topics would be appreciated.
It would help our lives get a little easier.
Yeah, well, ultimately, we want to create content that people want to consume.
And if our audience wants to learn about whatever it is, let us know.
And hopefully we've had some experience with it.
But if not, we can go get some.
Like this afternoon, I'm going to be going out and taking a 718 stick for a test drive
because I want to see how that four-cylinder is with a stick compared to my 981.
So those kind of things are good because it gives us a lot of experience that we can talk on
and give a little bit of comparison.
So, Will, thank you. That was fun, my friend.
Yeah, absolutely, man. I appreciate it.
We will catch you later.
We'll see you next time.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
About this episode
Exploring the nuances of owning an air-cooled Porsche, Will and Derek tackle listener questions about reliability, fire risks, and winter storage tips. They share personal anecdotes about their experiences with various models, emphasizing the importance of maintenance and preparation for long trips. The duo also discusses the best air-cooled Porsche to own under $100K, with the 993 and G-body models coming up as favorites. Their friendly banter and shared passion for Porsche ownership make for an engaging and informative episode.
Original notes
This week, Will and Derek dig into YOUR questions in our first-ever listener Q&A episode — covering everything from whether you can actually trust an old 911 on a long trip… to which air-cooled 911 is the smartest buy under $100K.
In this episode:
- Can you trust an air-cooled 911 to take your kid on a road trip — or are you asking for trouble?
- Do you really need a fire extinguisher in the car? What actually causes those classic Porsche fires?
- The right way to store your 911 for winter (battery tender, fuel stabilizer, starting it monthly — or not?)
- What’s the best first air-cooled 911 for under $100K if you already own a modern GT car?
- Will & Derek’s backstory — how we met, what we do for a living, and how Rennthusiast Radio started.
- The Safari 911 debate: still cool or completely played out?
This episode is built entirely from listener questions — so thank you to everyone who sent one in. If you want us to do another, drop your next question in the comments below. We’ll pick our favorites for the next Q&A episode.
Listen on audio:
Rennthusiast Radio — available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and everywhere else you get your shows.
Watch more from us:
- Will’s channel → @Rennthusiast
- Derek’s channel → @ElevenAfterNine
Chapters / Topics:
00:00 – Why this episode is different
01:20 – Can you trust an old 911 on a road trip?
04:51 – Air-cooled vs. water-cooled reliability
07:28 – Fire risk in classic Porsches: myth vs. reality
09:29 – How to store / winterize your 911 properly
12:39 – Best first air-cooled 911 under $100K
15:11 – Who are Will & Derek?
18:54 – How the podcast started
31:22 – Our global audience
33:02 – The Safari 911 debate
Your Turn:
What should we talk about next time?
Drop your question or topic idea in the comments!
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