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Car Keys with Robin Leech and Jay de Marcken – May 11, 2026

Car Keys with Robin Leech and Jay de Marcken – May 11, 2026

CAR KEYS May 11, 2026 30 min
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Fuel prices keep climbing, and the hosts share real numbers—like “Almost $50 or more to put 10 gallons of gas in your vehicle”—plus how that changes what they buy and how they drive. They compare regular vs premium and diesel, then pivot to practical driving habits: using turn signals early, especially with “self-canceling signals” that behave differently. From there, the conversation turns to depreciation, EV lease-return deals, and whether extended warranties and “lifetime warranty” coverage are worth it.

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Jeep Wrangler

"Probably because pickups Maybe Jeep Wranglers and Brock goes and the like In my opinion get suc..."

The Jeep Wrangler is an SUV made for driving off-road, like on dirt trails or rough terrain. People like it because it’s built to handle tough conditions. It’s also common enough that key and access topics often come up with it.

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turn signals

"We're going to rant about avoid and not using your turn signals [418.0s] What if the cars coming at you or coming before you are going ahead of you before they make a sharp turn to the left or right?"

Turn signals are the blinking lights that show other drivers which way you’re going to turn or change lanes. Using them early helps everyone react safely.

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self-canceling signals

"Well, yeah, and then and then you have the cars with the self-canceling signals and then they all behave a little differently"

Some cars automatically turn off the turn signal after you finish turning. But they don’t always cancel perfectly, so if you change your mind or don’t make the turn, you may need to turn it off yourself.

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Bluetooth

"If they don't have bluetooth in their cars and the older cars don't the newer cars do But you still see people I see people when I pull up beside them on a stop light on a multi-lane thing"

Bluetooth is a wireless way for your phone to connect to your car. The host is saying that even if your car has Bluetooth, people may still be holding or checking their phone.

Car

Electric Porsche Macan

"I mean recently I drove another I I still think the Electric Porsche Macan is a fantastic SUV. I know it's a 100000 dollar vehicle so of course I went online I went to on car gurus and tried to see if we started to see any used Electric Macan's"

This is the electric version of the Porsche Macan SUV. The hosts bring it up to talk about how fast some cars—especially newer ones—can drop in price after they’re bought.

Concept

depreciation

"it and it gets us to the bigger picture of depreciation of cars and How fast how quickly a car depreciates and when should you turn it in or should you turn it in and what can you do to keep the Values of cars up"

Depreciation just means the car gets cheaper as time passes. The hosts are talking about how fast that price drop can happen and how it changes when you should sell or return the car.

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depreciate

"and you know, my rule of thumb is that a car will depreciate by You know 50% over five years and if you if a car depreciates more than that"

Depreciation means the car gets worth less as time goes on. The host is using depreciation as a way to judge whether buying a car used could be a smart deal.

Car

Alfa Romeo Giulia's

"Alphas Stelvios and Julia's are probably a great deal if you like that type of car because after all the"

Alfa Romeo Giulia is Alfa Romeo’s compact sports sedan, built with a focus on handling and driver feel. The host mentions Giulia alongside the Stelvio to make the case that Alfa Romeo models can be “great deals” used because they don’t hold value as well as some mainstream brands.

Car

Alfa Stelvios

"about how I think Alphas Stelvios and Julia's are probably a great deal if you like that type of car because after all the"

The Alfa Romeo Stelvio is a luxury SUV. The point here is that it may cost less than you’d expect later on, so buying one used could be a better deal.

Brand

Toyota

"Brands like Toyota that that because they are Honda because they are extremely reliable tend to keep their value above that"

Toyota is mentioned as a brand people often associate with reliability. The host’s point is that Toyota cars may keep their resale price longer, which affects whether they’re a good deal new or used.

Brand

Honda

"because they are Honda because they are extremely reliable tend to keep their value above that You know 50% after five years or 70%"

Honda is mentioned as a brand that’s often seen as dependable. The host argues that because Hondas usually keep their value, they may not be as cheap to buy new or used as other brands.

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retaining value

"because they are Honda because they are extremely reliable tend to keep their value above that You know 50% after five years or 70% Retaining value after three years"

Retaining value means the car doesn’t lose its resale price as quickly. The host is saying some brands keep their value better, so they may not be as good a bargain when you buy them new.

Concept

used car market

"In the used car market freshly used but but still used"

The used car market is where people buy cars that have already been owned and driven. The idea here is to buy a car that’s not brand-new, but still relatively recent, to get a better price.

Brand

Cadillac

"I saw something that made me really take a second look at whether I should go lease a Cadillac electric There was a Cadillac electric lease on a sports show"

Cadillac is a luxury car brand. Here, they’re talking about a Cadillac electric car lease deal and whether the monthly price seems surprisingly low compared to what the car usually costs.

Concept

lease

"There was a Cadillac electric lease on a sports show ...those leases are usually three-year leases with mileage in in the Between 30 and 40,000 miles put on the cars by their users"

A lease is like renting a car for a fixed time. You usually pay a monthly amount, drive up to an allowed mileage, and then give the car back instead of keeping it.

Concept

mileage allowance

"And those leases are usually three-year leases with mileage in in the Between 30 and 40,000 miles put on the cars by their users"

Mileage allowance is the mileage limit in a lease contract. If you drive more than the allowed miles, you can owe extra money when you return the car.

Concept

affordable car index

"Well, I want to talk about for I was sort of I talked about in the affordable car index"

An “affordable car index” is basically a list or scorecard for which cars are cheaper or better deals. The host is using it to talk about value.

Concept

hold their value

"As opposed to some of the exotics which which do hold their value as well as you have pointed out several times"

“Hold their value” means the car doesn’t lose as much money when you sell it later. The host is comparing which types of cars keep resale prices better.

Car

Chevy Bolt

"The equation you can get a Chevy Bolt for 15 to $20,000"

The Chevy Bolt is an electric car from Chevrolet. The host is using it as an example of a cheaper EV you can buy for around the low-$20,000 range.

Car

Mercedes EQS

"You can also get a top of the line Mercedes EQS, which is a 12110000 dollar car"

The Mercedes EQS is a luxury electric car. The host is saying it’s normally expensive, but you can sometimes find it for less money after it’s been on the lease/used market.

Brand

Geo

"Robin you certainly remember this if your memory still serves you Geo remember Geo back in the day So I read a little bit about the Geo brand."

Geo was a car brand that GM used to sell cheaper, smaller cars. The hosts are talking about it as a brand from the past, not something you’d typically buy new today.

Company

GM

"So Geo was was Came came about it's a it was a GM brand that came about I'm gonna say in the 70s"

GM is a big car company. The host is saying Geo was one of GM’s brands—like a specific name GM used for certain cars.

Car

Ford Pintos

"Ford and GM's responses with the Pintos and the Vegas Were were just just left a bad impression of what the quality of these vehicles were"

The Ford Pinto was a small Ford car. The reason people still talk about it is that it had a big reputation for safety problems, and it’s brought up here as an example of what Ford did when competition got tough.

Concept

re-badge it

"GM at the time just said it. Well, let's just buy something and re-badge it and Sure look sure enough. They made deals with Suzuki and Toyota"

Re-badging is when a company sells a car that’s already built, but puts its own brand name on it. The hosts are saying GM did this to get competitive cars to market faster.

Car

Geo metros

"They made deals with Suzuki and Toyota and we started seeing trackers and Geo metros and and the prism"

The Geo Metro was a small, inexpensive car GM sold under the Geo name. The point here is that GM used it to compete with Japanese cars by offering something cheaper and better than some of its older models.

Car

Geo Prisms

"trackers and Geo metros and Prisms prisms. Yeah and the prism was a small sedan Made alongside the Toyota Corolla in a factory that was co-owned by Toyota and GM"

The Geo Prizm was GM’s version of a small Toyota sedan. The hosts are pointing out that it was basically built with the Toyota Corolla in a shared factory, which is why it could offer better value quickly.

Car

Geo Prism

"and Prisms prisms. Yeah and the prism was a small sedan"

The Geo Prism is a small, basic sedan that was made to be an affordable everyday car. It’s the kind of vehicle people used for commuting rather than special performance. The podcast mentions it as a “small sedan” example.

Car

Toyota Corolla

"and the prism was a small sedan Made alongside the Toyota Corolla in a factory that was co-owned by Toyota and GM"

The Toyota Corolla is a long-running compact car line known for being dependable and widely sold. Here it matters because the Geo Prizm was made alongside the Corolla in a Toyota–GM co-owned factory, illustrating how GM leveraged Toyota’s manufacturing and platform.

Company

Tesla

"I believe if I am correct That factory was then sold to Tesla and that's where Tesla started making their first cars in that factory That was obviously modified quite a bit"

Tesla is the company that later took over that factory and started making its early cars there. The hosts say the plant was changed a lot to fit Tesla’s needs.

Brand

Saturn

"when you were discussing the Geo brand. I was thinking of the Saturn brand that GM brought out Was it way it wasn't even it wasn't a Essentially a plastic car Vehicle to body wise"

Saturn was a GM car brand with its own identity. The discussion here is about how GM tried different brand approaches when Japanese cars were taking market share.

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plastic car Vehicle to body wise

"Was it way it wasn't even it wasn't a Essentially a plastic car Vehicle to body wise. Yeah, but And and you talk about short terms"

The host is talking about Saturn using plastic parts instead of all-metal bodywork. The idea was to make the car lighter and resist rust better than typical metal-body designs.

Car

Cadillac Cimarron

"...ded Cadillac earlier in the 80s came out with the Cimarron, which was an opal that they rebranded as a Cadil..."

The Cadillac Cimarron is a compact car from the early 1980s that carried the Cadillac name. The podcast points out that it was based on a smaller car and was rebranded as a Cadillac. It’s an example of how a car’s badge can change what people think they’re buying.

Term

V6 engine

"Absolutely, yep one of the v6 engine and and it was like a junior XJ series"

A V6 is an engine with six cylinders arranged in a V shape. The speaker is saying that this Jaguar variant used a V6 engine.

Car

2004 XJ

"I think it was a very good-looking vehicle and I own a 2004 XJ [1454.6s] As I've said previously on the show and it still looks as great today as I bought it"

The Jaguar XJ is a luxury sedan from Jaguar. Here, the speaker is talking about their own 2004 XJ and how they think it still looks good.

Concept

rebadging

"so much for rebadging and Having sometimes mediocre products sometimes not too bad product, but still Rebadging is a quick fix that seldom works long term."

Rebadging is when a company sells a car that’s basically the same as another one, but with a different brand name on it. The speaker thinks this strategy usually doesn’t solve the underlying problems for long.

Term

extended warranties

"about trying to sell extended warranties to people buying used cars one of them says up to 200,000 miles a warning to all people who want to listen to this part about [1575.3s] extended warranties I have discovered that if the cost of a"

An extended warranty is extra coverage you buy after the original warranty runs out. If something breaks, the warranty may pay part of the repair bill, depending on the contract.

Concept

extended warranty payout vs. car value

"I have discovered that if the cost of a [1579.9s] Breakdown of a car that has extended warranty exceeds the value of the car at the time that it happens [1586.7s] And I don't know any car with 200,000 miles would be worth more than $1,000 used [1593.2s] They do not pay for an engine replacement"

A big thing to watch is whether the warranty will actually pay the full repair bill. If the car isn’t worth much anymore, the warranty company might only pay up to a limit or not cover everything.

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engine replacement

"They do not pay for an engine replacement [1596.5s] Full cost of a repair that is more than the car itself is worth at the time [1601.5s] You want to turn in and and get the money, you know gets your repair done thinking you bought a repair that?"

An engine replacement is a major repair where the entire engine is removed and substituted with a replacement unit. Because it’s expensive, it’s one of the first things people assume a warranty will cover—so it’s also where warranty limits and exclusions matter most.

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transmission

"You'll never have to pay full price for an engine or a full, you know [1615.1s] Or a transmission or something that is extensive a much bigger repair item than a [1624.9s] Cost of a strut in the front suspension"

The transmission is what helps the car shift gears to match different speeds. Repairs can be costly, which is why warranties often mention it.

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strut

"a much bigger repair item than a [1624.9s] Cost of a strut in the front suspension [1629.2s] So it's very the warning is if you're gonna"

A strut is part of the suspension that helps keep the car stable and controls how it rides over bumps. It’s often cheaper than big repairs like engine or transmission work.

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$300 a month

"These repair warranties are going up. I mean you can buy them by the month [1680.9s] You can be paying $300 a month, which would be $3,600 a year and you might buy it for 30 months"

They’re describing a warranty that costs money each month. Whether it’s worth it depends on how long you pay for it and whether the warranty actually covers repairs you end up needing.

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lifetime warranty

"2014 Jeep and that's when I discovered that the lifetime warranty, which was a Chrysler then Chrysler Jeep warranty [1713.2s] Not an independent said the same thing that the independent warranties did that oh the transmission is going to cost you"

A “lifetime warranty” is supposed to cover repairs for as long as the car is in service (or as long as you own it). Even then, it may not cover everything, so you still have to check the fine print.

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prepaid maintenance

"And those warranties not to be confused with prepaid maintenance from [1739.5s] dealerships"

Prepaid maintenance means you buy future service ahead of time, like oil changes. It can save money, but only if the upfront price is cheaper than paying later for the same work.

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oil changes

"I buy three year programs three oil changes [1752.7s] Retire rotation of the like and it has come out to be roughly"

An oil change replaces the old engine oil with new oil. It’s a routine service that many prepaid plans include.

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tire rotation

"I buy three year programs three oil changes [1752.7s] Retire rotation of the like and it has come out to be roughly"

Tire rotation means moving your tires to different spots on the car. This helps them wear more evenly and can make them last longer.

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labor rates

"Cost factor as you take the car in because the labor rates are going up and the material rates are going up oils now higher per [1770.7s] Court the hourly rate to do it."

Labor rates are the hourly charges a shop or dealership bills for technician time. When labor rates increase, the cost of maintenance and repairs rises even if parts prices stay the same.

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material rates

"Cost factor as you take the car in because the labor rates are going up and the material rates are going up oils now higher per [1770.7s] Court the hourly rate to do it."

Material rates are the prices for the parts and supplies used during service. If those costs go up, the “deal” on prepaid maintenance can change.

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