The Mercury Mountaineer is a mid-size SUV. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because the speaker owned one and remembers it. There isn’t a technical breakdown here—it's mainly a personal reference.
A Volkswagen Golf is a small car (usually a hatchback) made for everyday driving. It’s popular because it’s practical and not too big to park or drive. The podcast mentions it as part of a general car-related story.
The Mitsubishi Eclipse GST is a sporty version of the Eclipse that came with a turbo engine. It became popular because it’s fun to drive and there are lots of parts and upgrades available.
“Power seat belts” are seat belts that move automatically with a motor. Instead of only using a spring, they can pull the belt in or position it for you.
The Mitsubishi Lancer is the regular version of the car. The host is comparing how the normal Lancer looks versus the Evolution versions, which look much more aggressive.
The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 8 is the “sporty” performance version of the Lancer. The host is basically saying it looks and feels more aggressive than the regular, cheaper Lancer.
The Toyota Corolla is a very common, normal-looking car. The host is saying the Lancer they’re talking about looks more like a typical everyday car than a sporty one.
The Lincoln Nautilus is a luxury SUV. In the podcast, it’s mentioned mostly because the name “Nautilus” matches a type of high-end watch being discussed. There’s no detailed car review here—just a naming connection.
The BMW M3 CS is a special, more hardcore version of the BMW M3. Here, they’re talking about a custom/manual rear-drive version of it, and how the power changes depending on whether it’s rear-wheel drive or uses all-wheel drive.
Rear drive (rear-wheel drive) sends power to the rear wheels instead of the front. Compared with all-wheel drive, it can change how the car launches and how traction is managed, which is why the hosts connect it to not getting the full power.
All-wheel drive sends power to all four wheels. It usually helps the car grip the road better, and in this story it’s tied to getting the full power rating.
Term
lightweighty bits
Lightweight parts are pieces of the car that are made to weigh less. Less weight generally makes the car feel quicker and more agile.
A drift is when a driver intentionally makes the car go sideways while still moving forward. It’s controlled sliding that depends on grip and how you use the gas and steering.
Term
over 400 horsepower
Horsepower is how much power the engine makes. For drifting, having more power can help the car keep sliding instead of losing momentum.
The Ford Escort is a small car that people often modify for racing and drifting. In this clip, they’re using it as an example of how much power and the right tires matter for being able to slide through a corner.
Forged wheels are wheels made with a stronger manufacturing process. They’re often used on performance cars because they can handle harder driving better.
A titanium muffler is part of the exhaust system made from titanium. Titanium is light and handles heat well, so it can help reduce weight and change the exhaust character.
“Carbon ceramics” are high-performance brake rotors made from ceramic materials. They’re lighter than normal brakes and are better at handling repeated hard stops without overheating as easily.
“Kidneys” is what people call BMW’s distinctive front grille shape. It’s a styling feature BMW is known for, and some people love it while others don’t.
The Ferrari California Spider is a Ferrari that’s meant to be more usable day-to-day, but still feels like a supercar. They bring it up while talking about which cars are selling at auction.
The Ferrari Enzo is one of Ferrari’s most famous supercars, known for its powerful V12 engine and collectible status. They’re talking about a specific Enzo and how great the color looks.
Bushings are rubber parts that help connect suspension pieces smoothly. If they get loose or worn, you can hear creaking and the steering can feel slightly off.
The front control arm is part of the suspension that holds the wheel in the right position. If the rubber bushing inside it wears out, some cars require replacing the whole arm instead of just the bushing.
Term
low speed at the steering
Steering feel can change dramatically at low speeds because the steering system and suspension loads are different than during normal driving. Small amounts of play from a loose bushing can show up as subtle resistance or “weird” feedback when maneuvering, especially while reversing.
Force feedback is the steering wheel’s “feel”—how much resistance you feel when you turn. If a suspension part is loose, it can change that feel, especially at very low speeds like parking and reversing.
“Weeps” just means it’s leaking a little bit over time. “Axle” is part of the drivetrain that sends power to the wheels, so an axle leak often means a seal is starting to fail.
The differential is a set of gears that helps the wheels turn at different speeds when you’re cornering. If it’s damaged, the car can start making bad noises and may not drive normally.
“Plugging” a tire means putting a rubber plug into the hole so air stops leaking. Whether it’s safe depends on where the puncture is and how big it is.
The Aston Martin DB12 is a newer Aston Martin sports car. They’re saying it was missed during a canyon drive, so it’s part of what they were trying to enjoy.
PS4 S is a specific brand/model of performance tire. They’re saying it’s not quite grippy enough for their track driving, so the car can lose traction.
When they say “spin them,” they mean the tires lose grip and start slipping. Doing it in third gear shows the car is pushing harder than the tires can handle.
The Ferrari F50 is a rare, high-end Ferrari supercar from the 1990s. The conversation is basically about how expensive it is to own and maintain, and how you’d only really enjoy driving it if money wasn’t a concern.
The Bugatti EB 110 Super Sport is a super-rare, super-expensive Bugatti from the 1990s. The hosts bring it up as one of the big-name cars in a hypercar auction list.
The Lamborghini 350 GT is an older, classic Lamborghini sports car. It’s the kind of car people talk about because it’s historically important and rare. In the podcast, it’s mentioned while comparing classic supercars.
The Ferrari 512 TR is an older Ferrari supercar with a very powerful engine. The podcast is talking about it in terms of how it might feel to live with compared to other Ferraris, and it mentions a five-speed setup. It’s included because it’s a well-known collector car.
The Buick Regal is a mid-size sedan made by Buick. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as part of a list of different cars, not as a detailed performance discussion. It’s basically being used as an example of a car people remember or talk about.
This is a classic Pontiac muscle-era convertible. The podcast mentions it as part of a list of different older cars people remember. It’s included more for the classic, open-top car vibe than for a technical breakdown.
The Shelby GT 500 is a famous, high-power version of the Ford Mustang made by Shelby. Here, they’re trying to figure out exactly which GT 500 it is by searching for matching details.
The Shelby GT500 is a very performance-focused Mustang. People talk about it because it’s built to be fast and is a special version of the Mustang. The podcast mentions it as something to look up and research.
“427 cubic inch” is the engine’s size, basically how big the engine is. “Police interceptor” is a name used for certain V8 setups, and they’re using it to help figure out what car they’re looking at.
The Jensen Interceptor is an older sports/grand touring car. The podcast is describing it like a big, powerful V8 “police interceptor” type of setup. It’s mentioned because it’s a dramatic classic with a strong engine reputation.
A serial number is like a car’s unique ID. People use it to confirm the car’s identity and details when they’re trying to verify what they’re looking at.
The BMW 3 Series is a luxury car that many people like to drive. The podcast mentions an F30 and a modification that changes the car’s exhaust sound (“burble tune”). It’s brought up because it affects how the car feels and sounds while driving.
A blow-off valve is a part on some turbo engines that releases extra pressure when you lift off the gas. It can make a loud “whoosh/pssh” sound and is part of how turbo cars manage boost.
The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck. In the podcast, they talk about a modified version where a blow-off valve makes a loud sound. The point is that the truck’s sound can be changed by aftermarket parts.
This is the Nissan Skyline R34, specifically the version that isn’t the GT-R. They’re talking about how different Skyline versions compare in desirability and performance.
“RB 26” is an engine used in Nissan Skylines, especially the GT-R. They’re using it to talk about which kind of Skyline/GT-R setup you’re actually buying.
Here “aesthetic” means the differences are mostly about how the car looks or how it’s presented, not necessarily how it drives. They’re saying that can affect what people are willing to pay.
Term
computing power
They mean the car’s electronics got smarter over time. More computing power can change how the engine and turbo are controlled, which can make driving feel different.
The Nissan GT-R R34 is a very popular turbo sports car. They’re talking about how the R34 (especially the GT-R version) is priced and how it drives differently depending on drivetrain.
A turbocharger can be built with different materials. Ceramic-wheel turbos are designed to spin up quickly, but they can be less tolerant when you crank the car to very high power.
The Nissan 240SX is a classic Japanese sports coupe known for its rear-wheel-drive layout and popularity as a tuning platform. The host compares the GT-R’s “Skyline platform” feel to a “sophisticated 240SX,” implying a similar kind of balance and steering character when you remove front-tire drive effects.
The Toyota Supra is a sports car meant to be fun to drive. People talk about it a lot because it feels quick and engaging when you drive it. In the podcast, they’re comparing how it feels compared to other sports cars.
“Investment grade” here means a car that people think will be worth more later, like an investment. They’re saying some versions are more for fun than for making money.
The C5 Corvette is a specific generation of the Chevrolet Corvette from the late 1990s/early 2000s. Here, they’re talking about pace-car versions and whether any were coupes (fixed-roof) instead of convertibles.
A pace car is the car that leads the field during parts of a race weekend to help manage speed and order. People also like the special “pace car” look and may copy it on their own cars.
Coilovers are upgraded suspension parts that let you adjust how the car rides and sits. Enthusiasts use them to make the car handle better, especially for track days.
The Dodge Neon is a small, everyday car model. The podcast mentions it because of a specific detail—“Neon wheels”—rather than because of how fast it is. It’s being used as a reference for a look or parts choice.
Livery is the car’s design—its stripes, decals, and overall graphics. It’s what makes a race car look like a race car, and people copy that style for fun builds.
A vinyl wrap is like a big sticker that covers your car to change the color or add graphics. People use it when they want a cool look without permanently repainting the car.
Concept
lemons slash champ
“Lemons” is a racing event where people race cheap, imperfect cars and it’s more about the fun and the story than having a perfect supercar. They’re saying they’d put a cool theme/livery on a car built for that kind of event.
The Miata (MX-5) is a small two-seat sports car that’s built to feel light and easy to drive. Instead of focusing on huge power, it’s about quick handling and fun steering. The podcast brings it up as the standard for a lightweight roadster.
The Toyota MR2 is a small sports car that’s known for having the engine in the middle of the car. The hosts are talking about a possible new MR2 that would aim to feel light and fun to drive.
A mid-engine car puts the engine closer to the middle of the vehicle instead of the front. That can help the car feel more balanced and easier to steer.
Rear-wheel drive means the power goes to the back wheels. Some people like it on sports cars because it can feel more fun and predictable when driving.
The Toyota Century is Toyota’s fancy, high-end sedan. People mention it because it’s a little unusual and feels more “classy/serious” than flashy luxury cars.
Nitrous is a system that gives the engine an extra power boost for a short time. It’s like a controlled “turbo-like” kick, but it’s injected gas rather than extra air from a blower.
Term
big cam heads
They mean they modified the engine’s top end to flow more air. That helps the car make more power when paired with a bigger cam.
Wheel horsepower is how much power the car actually delivers to the tires. It’s measured on a dyno and is usually less than the power claimed at the engine.
They’re talking about a Mini Cooper S that’s been modified. They mention suspension and other add-on parts to make it drive better and feel more responsive.
The Camaro is a sports car from Chevrolet that’s made for performance. Some versions can be modified to make a lot of power, including turbo setups. The podcast is talking about a particularly extreme Camaro build.
The Mini Cooper is a small, fun-to-drive car. The hosts are basically saying some people buy it and then keep spending money trying to make it more exciting.
The STI is a high-performance version of a Subaru, built for better traction and more aggressive driving. The conversation is about what upgrades they’d want if a new one came out.
The BRZ is a small sports car that’s fun mainly because it handles well. The host is imagining it getting more power (like a turbo) and STI-like attitude.
The Subaru WRX is a performance car that comes with all-wheel drive, which helps it grip the road. People talk about it because it’s built to drive hard, especially in less-than-ideal weather. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as a comparison point to other sports-car concepts.
The Mustang is a popular American sports car made by Ford. The podcast is mentioning different Mustang generations and what people pay for them. It’s brought up because each Mustang era feels and looks different.
Term
throttle house guys
They’re referencing another car show/community (“Throttle House”). It’s just context for where the game idea came from.
“Tune ability” refers to how easily a car can be modified and calibrated for more power or different behavior using engine management software. Some platforms respond better to aftermarket tuning than others, depending on hardware and how much the ECU can be adjusted safely.
Term
too exhaust
“Too exhaust” here is shorthand for an exhaust setup that’s excessively loud. In enthusiast discussions, loudness is often treated as a trade-off against drivability, refinement, and sometimes even how the car behaves under different throttle conditions.
The serpentine belt is a single belt that runs several important accessories in the engine bay. If it breaks, things like charging and air conditioning can stop, so replacing it can be a big job.
They’re talking about a company making fewer different versions of the same car. That can make production simpler and help quality, because workers and parts suppliers aren’t dealing with tons of unusual setups.
Engine displacement is basically the engine’s size—how much space the pistons move through. Bigger displacement can move more air and fuel, which often means more potential power.
Turbocharged engines use a device that squeezes more air into the engine. That extra air helps the engine make more power, even if the engine isn’t huge.
Part-sharing means using the same parts across different engines or models. It helps companies build cars cheaper and faster because they don’t have to design everything from scratch.
The Infiniti Q50 is a luxury sedan that can be ordered in sportier versions. The podcast is talking about a specific sporty trim and whether it could be made with a manual transmission. It’s brought up as a hypothetical “would it be right” kind of idea.
Car
1992 miata
A 1992 Miata is a small, light sports car that’s popular for learning to drive on track. People also like modifying them because they’re usually cheaper than many other sports cars.
A Porsche Boxster is a sporty Porsche roadster. Here the host is saying that even a rough-looking used one might be a way to get into a faster, more exciting car for not much money.
The Lotus Elise is a small sports car made to be very light and handle sharply. People like it because it feels exciting when you drive it. The podcast also mentions it as something you might look for with certain exterior parts.
“Frozen berry metallic” is a named paint color. “Metallic” means the paint has tiny reflective particles, so it can look more vivid and change a bit as you move or as the lighting changes.
“Chroma flare” is Porsche’s name for a special paint/finish effect. It’s the kind of finish that looks different in different light, and here they’re saying lots of the car’s parts share that same look.
A diffuser is a rear body part that helps the car’s airflow behave better. The “lower diffuser” is the bottom part, and here they’re saying it usually looks black but is being finished to match the special color theme.
The Porsche 911 Turbo S is one of Porsche’s most powerful versions of the 911. Here, the host is saying this particular one was extremely expensive—so expensive they’ve never seen an MSRP that high on a 911 Turbo S.
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Found out that I can just like have breakfast burritos like waiting for me at the track like if I want oh
Wow, like that's nice. Yeah, so very cool. I was just like hey
Is it what time does the diner open like for breakfast or lunch? I was like, you know breakfast and like oh
Well, do you want to just like have?
burritos and coffee at the
Streets when you get there and I was like I can do that and they're like, yeah, I was like, okay
It's funny watching a wealthy person be introduced to the rich life
Yeah, I mean yeah
Not like there's a there's levels to this shit and I'm only on a little bit up level
It's also when we go there right now. It's kind of empty. So you don't really know what is available, right?
It's like it's not like there's a breakfast that's there for everybody every day
It's like they're gonna wait. They're gonna do all this just for yeah
And you're feel a little I weird cuz I didn't write the check, you know
It feels like you know recently
They just rebuilt a shopping center on here the one with the FedEx and the motorcycle store
And you know they all this like scaffolding in front but all those things say business is open during yeah
I feel like willow springs is like, oh, no, they're like the restaurants open
But it's just very quiet here and there's a lot less happening. You're sure dude on a on a Wednesday
Yeah, you know going out at 9 a.m. On a Wednesday if you're not bringing your own friends like who the fuck else is gonna
Be out there. I mean I grew up at
Hoity-toity ass private country clubs golf clubs
And I could walk up and no tea time and play at 9 a.m. On a Wednesday my whole life because all the members are work
Yeah
Like I got I got real spoiled like reality hit me hard when I came to LA and
and did not have
Some kind of private golf club access like even in college in college
I went to you know a lot of in Philly
Well kids were local they were they were from the suburbs of Philly like all these feeder schools
So a bunch of them belonged to you know local-ish golf clubs
Oh, so I was able to like get some golfing in college with my with my friends, which was pretty cool actually
And we actually we even drove we were like already old we like drove on some golf trips as well
One of my pledging things that we drove like like
Road trip to a golf course. Okay, like and I summer but for a different sect. All right
Here's where it relates to cars. I had my mercury mountaineer
We've talked about in college my drug dealer mobile fucking an epic drug dealer mobile the most perfect Philadelphia
Drug dealer car that exists ever in history. It was great and three rows TVs in all of them
and so, you know, I was in this fraternity and
I was never like a gung-ho fraternity but
But I was the social chair which meant I was in charge of parties
Which is a pretty if you must be in a fraternity be the fucking social chair
You're literally in charge of all the money for partying. It's the best job that exists in being in a fraternity
and so
When I became
What are the that an elder like a junior in college was an elder person the fraternity, you know
When there's pledges you can have them like do stuff for you. Yep, and a lot of people were like mean to the pledges
You know, they there's that weird cycle of violence that happens with pledging where you know
People get fucking forced to drink and the shit beat out of them and do weird stuff during pledging
And they can't fucking wait to do that same shit to the next group people. Mm-hmm
When I was finished with pledging I wasn't like I was like I want I don't want to do this to some other people
I don't like the peanut butter. It's like gross. No, I don't I don't want to like have a bunch of like slaves
Like I'm not about that. So a couple of times like for I thought of like fun things
For a pledge to do for me where the pledge would have a good time
So like for well, the only real thing I had a pledge do was me and my buddy Jeff
Jeff Miami Jeff we were gonna go to from Philly to my parents house in South Carolina
by car
To play a round of golf and I had a pledge put on a suit
Oh, and a hat and show for you us in the truck
And me and Jeff sat in the back with my other buddy and puffed L's and just watch movies
9.6 hours you just watch the frown. I was the whole way
We yeah, basically the whole seat we watched all like all of season 3 is the frown
Like a half ounce of herb this and this you know freshman fucking drove us and of course we weren't we weren't dipshits like
He stood the freshman like stayed at the house with us and like we invite he played golf with us
I got a very good time. You're the best time ever
Yeah, like he had a great time like he just had to do most of the driving, you know, like it was
It was pretty awesome like that's that's about the extent of
My pledge abuse. Yeah, that's pretty good. And when I was a freshman
I started selling weed when I was a freshman
So I was selling weed during pledging
So the only thing I was ever asked to do as a pledge was yo bring weed bring weed
Yeah, yeah, and so I seen as an adult immediately. Yeah, so I was I fucking sailed through through our pledging
But yeah the cycle of violence
That you see in like households with alcoholics and abuse of like that plays out in in full in
Two years in in a fraternity
Our house was small like when I joined it was like 20 people and it was
You know started by entrepreneurial nerds
And they were like much nicer than what became of the house when it quickly grew like three years later
So there wasn't much of that there were but there were like two people
You could see had the eye and the attitude of like I could tell these fucks what to do
You know like your parents bought your brand new car three like you're not tough and I know exactly what I'm talking about
But they really like wielding that power for the two years
They had it and maybe they went on to a job where they have you know, I don't know if they became cops
Yeah, you know, yeah, but um our fraternity actually
You know fraternities all get a really bad rap
Mostly deserve mostly deservedly so I'm not here to defend the fraternity system at all
In fact, I didn't even stay for senior year
Um, but our fraternity in particular, which was talab slun fight pen
We had uh, we were like fully like multiracial
Like there were the black people Indian people Asian people white people
Hispanic people we had the first as far as we could find the first openly gay brothers
This was 2001 first openly gay brothers of any fraternity in the history of pen
um
We had to make a rule that uh brothers couldn't hook up with pledges actually
Because there was a because it's like uh, there's like a power dynamic
Unless the power is coming from the bottom
No, no, but it let's just say that that was not it wasn't to rule written in blood per se. Oh, it was preemptive
It was preventative. It was a preventative. Yes. It was thought through. It was a preventative
Yeah, it was a preventative because after we had the first gay pledge
Shout out to Seth Weisman who I also went to high school with
And then ended up in my fraternity as the first openly gay brother, but um
When he literally at the end of pledging were like we have to make a rule so you can't take pledges next year
Then he's like, oh, yeah, that actually makes sense
Yeah, it was all right. It was okay. It was very uh progressive situation. It was very good. Yeah
We had an openly gay pledge too in in 2003 I think and it was very funny of the way like
Most of the house was like, yeah, sure whatever and a couple people were like
You know, it's against my beliefs of this or that and I felt very encouraged when that argument
People believe what they want, but when you're like part of a democratic system, you know, I got laughed at
Quorum laughed it away. You're like for sure. Yeah
No, there's others in the making that one rule. It actually was not that big of a deal
but uh, that making what making a pledge drive me to uh,
To south carolida for a round of golf was was I think a good use of a pledge get my first
Turbo car driving experience was when I was a pledge. I think and I got to drive shout out oven. I know you're listening
Oh, yeah, let me drive. You know oven. I do let me drive his
Eclipse gst. Oh do to go get alcohol when he was like 21 and I was like, this is awesome
He never let me drive it again in college. Was it a first or second gen first gen first gen?
Yeah, I remember like the eagle we drove. Oh, yeah, look the same power seat belts. I think power seat belts very tall shifter
Like very dildo pull this lever to open hatch. Fuck it. It's like a lever
Extremely, uh, which I remember I looked at when I've driven like, I don't know 10 cars at this point that all have shift knobs
Not a shift lever. So that was weird, but when turbo hit I was like, oh, this this is spicy. I'm down. Yeah
Mm-hmm
Man, my friend Brandon had the eclipse
GS non turbo automatic
You want to talk about a car?
there was
The vibratious car
All the reliability of Mitsubishi with none of the joy
Great. Oh, yeah, Brandon's Mitsubishi was tough dude. It was bad. They've made some
Man, when you see like a regular lancer like oh, yeah from the early aughts
And then you see what was turned into the evo and you go man
They did great work with like that surgeon with the body cladding and the wing
Transformed base lancer is like looking car. It's like an like the evo 8
But in base lancer that a base lancer from that year is one of the saddest cars imaginable
Like if you have if you asked me to draw me failure on wheels draw me the cheapest
Gray car you can that is a that's a sad looking car. It just looks it looks so short and stubby
Yeah, it's like a corolla on lithium. It's yeah, it really is like this whole hood looks
It looks like they found wheels at the factory that were too small and put them on anyway
You know, this should have 16s because of this front end
Those are like 14s probably those are bad, but then but then you have the evo 9
Like do just the put the evo not just like give me any evo
Give me any evo right you widen the fenders you give me some vents little aggression in the low nose
The right wheels
I mean look they also change the headlight design exactly the same by the way the shape of the roof is exactly the same
The hood lining trunk line are exactly the same
I think the hood they change because the see how the lights wrap up onto the hood in the regular
Lancer and then here they're horizontal. Oops. Oh, hang on a minute. Did you do that?
Oh, see for real
The grill is the same. Oh, wow the lights the lights were the key. What a difference that makes. Yeah, look here's a clear example
Oh, shit. That goes up the side lights. Yeah, that's crazy. There's just no intimidation factor
You know because look even when you have the rs there with no wing and stuff. You got to have the right the right headlights
Fuck those headlights. What a world of difference now. Yeah
That same year
Well, it's like think about the shape of eyes like you go from like
The yellow one has like crazy fucking cat lady eyes. The lift was too aggressive
You know and someone looks surprised and they can't really blink. Yeah
Yeah, Beverly Hills the yellow is Beverly Hills
She's she's 72. Yeah, she's got divorced. Yeah the red and the red one the the evo is Glendale. It's just anger
straight straight away from
Staying away from that comparison. People are gonna think you mean something else with Glendale. That's the problem
Oh, well, I mean I mean anger
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The pink notice can officially sold out
Uh, the the patrons had
A week to buy their units and uh, the remaining units were available to the public as of yesterday and sold out in an hour
So that's that's the last one. I promise we're not making any more of those no more canyons. No more canyons. However
Not however, you're making a canyon
No, you're making a fjord
I was noodling around the name
Um canyon deep for the diver, but I don't really love it. I think that's not going to be where we land
That just sounds like a larger canyon or a canyon grand if it as a canyon for diving. It's on it's a different
Uh, it's a completely different architecture watch, but uh west from notice texted me that we uh, we
We
call in
the engineer
um
The the guy who who literally engineers notices watches
Uh, was able to hit
My crucial milestone
Or my excuse me milestone is the wrong word my crucial metric
of
A 200 meters water-resist diver with a with a thickness that is in the tens
So this not this isn't shit. That's not the canyon. The canyon
Is 11 7
So this is a slimmer but more waterproof. This is it. It's uh, actually the canyon's 200 meters also
But this is a diver with a spinning dive bezel like it that think Rolex Submariner
But thinner that's so in the canyon like almost all affordable divers
are going to be like
15 millimeter chunky chunky. Yeah
And even like the new grand seiko that I was like gushing over last week the Ushio
That's like 13 7
um
Yeah, like that's like third. That's 13
There it's it's something with a 13 13 7 13 8 something like that. And so
Uh, like a 90s or 2000 Submariner is like low 11s. Hmm. Okay. We wanted to go
Finn Wow
Actually, check me on that. Can you google? What is the what is the thickness of like a I don't know 2002
Rolex Submariner
Is it
12 7 to 12 8
So
Significantly thicker than that
Thinner
Significantly 20 percentage. Yeah, cool. Which like listen for a affordable watch with serious water resistance
This is going to be a fucking heater so it'll feel
Almost like a dress watch in terms of the thinness and lightness will go under all the cuffs instead of being this big thing
Yeah, you'll be impressive the more the thinner the watch
Like the more versatile it can be so like the really dope
Mega high-end sport watches the nautilus the royal oak. These are really thin the nautilus is like eight and a half millimeters thin
Really thin wow. Yeah. Yeah
So, um, but does does that usually come with a higher cost? Yeah, those these watches those watches 35 40 thousand dollars retail
we're talking about something that is
Around the same price as they can't we have not landed on final pricing, but it's
It will be in the same ballpark as what we've been selling
um
The movement is a little different. We it's not used. It's still going to be a it's a salita swiss movement
This this is the lujuparet movement
So, um, it has a slightly shorter power reserve
This has the 70 hour. I don't think it's it's got quite such a long power reserve. I forgot to ask what the power reserve is
it's just
The mission was the thinness with the water resistance
And it was you know, whatever
Dependable accurate movement we can get
That will fit our fit our thin thinness target. Yeah, if you're still underwater at 70 hours, you don't need to tell the time anymore
And notice hand clocks the movements
So they they regulate every movement
So they don't just buy the movement and put it in the watch
They actually they put it on a time grapher and and they there's ways to like adjust to make sure it's all the same
Yeah, yeah, they make them really accurate. So, um
But yeah, we we
Six colors
And uh, how many what how many how many watches 100 mint?
100 blue 100 green
And 100 pink
Okay, that's 400. We got 200 orange. Okay, so 600 and then 50
of mother of pearls
And then scott's watch so 120600 and 51
Dude, this is cool. That's a lot of watches to sell
It is it's amazing that you you know
You were a fan of watches since forever and then you get to make
To make
Yeah
And then they like it and then people who bought all six
I think there's like eight people maybe or nine people that bought all six Thanos. He did it first
and then yeah
and uh
Yeah, I see them out, you know
When when I go to stuff people are people are wearing them and they really like it and
And I have we have a couple friends that are like
Pretty well off and have like pretty high-end collections and like they're wearing their canyons like all the time
Dude, it's a nice pretty good watch. Yeah, it's a good watch. So, uh, I don't know if the pinks have shipped yet
They're like it's they if they have it. It's like they it's like now they should be shipping now
So, um, I hope uh to see them on people's wrists. Uh, very very soon. Thank you for thank you for playing that game and uh
I hope you like our next watch. We have we have
It's gonna be fun. really nice
Um, I'm stoked that they that they said that they hit a 10 which is which is fucking crazy. Um
Speaking of though, um
The 650 first watch
Did you see uh
Our our friend scott's uh project. Mm-hmm. Okay. So there's big news today car big car news
The bmw m3 cs. Oh, yes
Hand us shout our first
The mad hand bmw, uh m3cs masturbatory device hand a shelter
um our
Uh contest winner when we did the the blood thing uh the stem cell blood thing to give away the prototype notice with the
Uh, the the teal the dark teal dial. It was so fucking beautiful
The winner was a dude named scott who was a product manager at bmw
Uh on the three and four series line
And this is uh one of his projects. Whoa, so he he DM'd us uh this morning and was like, hey
Check out my shit made a thing. That's cool. So this is a manual transmission rear drive
bmw m3cs
With an asterisk because it has the 473 horsepower motor
Not the 550 horsepower cs motor when when you have to get the all-wheel drive to get all the power
They won't give you the full beans with the rear drive, but it's a manual sedan
That looks like a cs and it's light. It's got a bunch of lightweighty bits
Uh, you can look look where they are by the way. Yeah, there are streets. Yeah
Like nobody invited me
The fuck bro, let's go. This is the evening for like 5 p.m. 6 p.m. Yeah good glow. Yep. Yeah good drift drifting around the u-turn
Yeah, as one does you do need that kind of power to carry that as a full drift
This is a very long corner that you need like over 400 horsepower really to slide
I couldn't slide that escort there
I could slide the escort on the bus stop with 208 horsepower
But I couldn't hold that whole thing. Well, it also had sticky tires, right? Yeah, like racing tires. Yeah, that makes sense
But uh, how cool is that right? It looks it looks pretty good. I think it's really fun and $107,000 exclusively for north america
0 to 16 4.1 top speed 180 m drivers package reduce the weight right no violent italic. Sorry
Using carbon fiber reinforced plastic forged wheels titanium muffler and some buckets you loo
They shave 75 pounds compared to the standard m3, but only if you get the carbon ceramics
So a little bit. Yeah, I mean people will be more drawn to it because I mean seven pounds with the manual though
So it's a branded a cs and it's a manual that'll be that'll be enough to do her
Yep, and then you know like m engineering or whoever the bmw equivalent is
We'll give you the 550 horsepower like righto. No problem. Yeah three minutes later
Carbon stripes look pretty good. It looks good in red. I gotta say I mean I like
I still don't love the kidneys, but the rest of the car in this color. It looks looks pretty good
Yeah, these are like bronze gold wheels. They look nice
It's like a shadow carbon stripe
And I was giving scott a little bit of crap about and they're not being the comfort seats and uh,
Yeah, oh well. It's a cs. What are you gonna do? It is a cs. Well, yeah
Uh, but uh, no cup holder, but anyway, yes, manual gearbox loving it
I like this pattern on the seats for people listening. It's a wave
It's got like oh, yeah, it's like a wavy texture down the center of the seat that looks like a distorted red waves
That's kind of cool
All right. Well, when do we get to drive it? When do we get to drift into the streets? That's what's important
There apparently will be press cars. So we will have to check that out
The right there. Oh, we can talk about either
The insane like meekum results this past weekend
Hmm
Some of this some of this shit is crazy
An enzo crossed 10 million dollars. What and yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's going on here
Isn't the new high six a few yeah, this one's over. Yeah
um
Briefly though
Uh, even if you there if you yeah, uh, is that recent results?
Oh wait, that's from
That's that's a different one. That's the one. No, you want what we want is uh
I believe it's
in
In
Jesus christ. Oh here we go down. Where's that silver enzo? That's indy. We want indy filter by indy. That's it. That's this one. Yeah, okay
um
This was this I just saw
Some of the some of these were
really really wild
The california spider understandable. Let's see the silver enzo 2003
It is it is a apparently the only one in this color and it's a good color, which is gregio titanio
but
This uh sold
Do we even is it have an exact number? It doesn't give you the exact number. I think I think me come hides it
Well, their instagram had it
For sure the instagram their instagram had it on it and it started it was 10. Okay
um, I'll find it which uh
Come on guys like what is happening?
I don't know what what's going on with this where in a year we go from you know
three to
five to ten and also we've got
the
9 11 reimagined by singer classic commission
1.65 million 400 miles since it was built 400 miles highest ever
Recorded auction number for a singer classic. Oh, wow. I thought they were higher than that for classic
I know I thought if you want to skip the line. It was two or more
No, uh the dls's
Are all high twos but classics are all we've all historically been like 900 to like 15. Okay
Wait go up go back up
all the top
uh the
In the in the slideshow at the top right with the with the california spider california spider
18 million but a huge number a fabulous result for california spider
But it's it's still a california very very famous car. Yeah, these cars have been over 10 for 20 fucking years
So not surprising at all there 10 million
230 000 for the ferrari enzo
This might be the best looking color on an enzo. I've ever seen and i'm not usually drawn to silver
I agree with you, but I think this is the best looking enzo. I've ever seen I think
Uh, yeah, I think you're right. I do think it is a very very nice looking color. It's all class
Yeah, I mean, I thought I thought gray on new cars was played out
But on this thing like this looks pretty awesome with red interior red seats at least
That's pretty hot. It is it's pretty hot but 10
I mean for me. No, I don't know. I don't know what's happening
like
We've said this all the time like people have so much money
Yeah, and maybe they also have all the other things that are cool. Yeah, and they just go oh, I've always wanted one of those and I have
For 40 more money after three months of the market than I did when the the yellow one sold for six
so sure
I don't know. This is great. That's essentially you're right and
special ferrari's particularly in unique specifications are now
Like a a known and encouraged like asset class
You know, like your financial advisor will tell you yeah, go in hard on that
Especially if you're worth if you're worth, let's just say and this is where again
We're talking about silly people fantasy money right now, but if you're worth 200 million
I bet if I was worth 200 million
My my actual financial advisor who I do work with would be like
So you you think that this will not really go down like much, right?
And and I just and I would go no, I don't I think it could go up a lot
It could go down some it'll probably stay right right where it is
She would go. Okay. Buy it like without that'll be the whole conversation
Right. This is five percent of your net worth. Yeah, if if you worth 200 million dollars. Yeah, that's insane
Yeah, so anyway, I mean
It's crazy money and it's crazy way but but just the the escalation of this car in one year
Yes, that's the really surprising is bananas
Because let's um
Yeah, I think because I think the yellow one was six and that's at the record for enzos
It was literally earlier this year if you paid six for the yellow
I bet you're fucking annoyed that that you didn't just get this one
Yeah
Almost nobody but wasn't it one yellow? I feel like no, I think there's a couple. It was like single single digits yellow
But but yeah
This is great
This is a more popular color than yellow. Absolutely. I think there's two that are blue
And the blues are fucking insane. They're so good blue and tan the fry. Yeah, yeah, the light the light blue or the dark blue
Look, Ferrari knows how to do a blue. They do it reluctantly, but they do oh you get this
Speaking of Ferrari sidebar. I have been invited through road and track actually
um
to tenor reef
Uh to drive the 849 spider cool. Yeah, okay end of june
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Going on a press launch as admit while making videos
I'm not saying it isn't a great way to making a living but it's much more of a job than going as a print journalist
Yes, absolutely as a print journalist is just a delight. Well when you go as a print journalist
You are a sponge for information, right? All you're doing is taking notes driving experiencing
Thinking of things and at worst. I think they have to write the article on the flight home if the deadline is soon
Yeah, but as a video journalist the information is going two directions because you have to present it back immediately to the camera
On the location. So for me you everybody that is the more stressful part of it while you're also like
Getting video worried about the audio, you know, if you're by yourself, it's an extremely like high-pressure
situation you're like
Negotiating with the manufacturer to get like two extra laps of track time to get a couple extra shots
You're running a production
While also trying to ingest digest and then express information again not complaining. It's a fabulous way to earn a living
There's people that dig dig fucking ditches
Uh, but compared to being a print journalist. It's nothing like that. That shit is that's living, baby
So that'll be fun. Um
Oh
22 more funny things
I talked to my service advisor at the uh at the portion doing today
It wasn't that so it the bushings at the front
were
Uh were done
But they don't actually just replace the bushing they replace the entire control arm assembly
Oh, okay, sometimes they keep a lot of cars now the bushings are not serviceable. They just give you a new arm
Yeah, they actually did that with mine because it was cheaper to just get the new lower front control arm
Put the bushing in and out. Yeah. Yeah, so they're doing that. It'll be done tomorrow though. Cool. But
Yeah, it also like there was just this hint
It's very faint. You know, I said it was creaking the front end a little bit when you go over articulations
But there was also this
Just a hint of what felt like this light electrical resistance and low speed at the steering
And he was like he was like, yeah, that's from that was the control arm was causing that
I'm glad I actually felt that
Oh because the bushing was loose. Yeah, it was like a very subtle electrical resistance. It was weird like the e-pass was trying to like
Um counter it inch. Whoa. Yeah, so it's pushing back against you as you were turning it because it was feeling getting you on information
Yeah, whoa, it just had like a little extra
Force feedback like maybe like
One or two percent
Only in that direction whatever one direction no both directions, but only at very low speeds
Like parking lot speeds and you notice it more when reversing than going forward, but um
Yeah, it was like like most people would not not like I'm so great
But like most people wouldn't notice anything like this. They would not be this is like really really really inside
of like
You know, I've driven six tycons this year. Right. This isn't like this one's not like them, you know
And you've also driven that car since for two years almost so you know
It was like when you got it and we put the wheels on like you're very you have to pay attention to that because you wanted to know
Does it feel different now that it has these new wheels and new tires on? Yeah. Yeah
So, uh, fortunately the the dealer did not say anything about that. Uh, I felt a new sound in my car today
I was exiting 405 to the 90
and I
Got on that ramp and then all of a sudden I heard like a
And I start and I take my hands off the wheel. I go is the tire flat? No still tracking straight
Like I was trying to assess, you know as I approach the exit. What's going on but budda budda
Very rarely good. No never good. There's no budda budda
And it was I could feel it through the seat a little bit
I went did I like run over a two by four or something?
It's like stuck to the tire now, but my brain started going to
What's already a little wrong with the car that I have been meaning to address?
Like the axle weeps a little bit and I know I need to get it done
But I'm just I need to take it to office and I haven't done it yet and I go
Oh man, did I just blow my diff up and now it's seizing right now and you're on the highway 405
I'm on the 90 about to exit for sentinela. All right, but I'm also going
Can I drive home? I also have to go back to you know, jury duty tomorrow
Da-da-da and I get home and I look at the front tire and I see the largest nail
I've ever seen stuck into my front right tire
It's like the head is the size of a quarter and it's like as thick as
And so I I think if they take it out to plug it. I mean, it's like a pinky finger
So we'll see the whole nail is not just the head
No, the head is obviously much larger
But I could see a little bit of the shaft looking sideways. I'm like that's not that's not a wood screw
So we'll see I'll tell you what we'll see because I have to go to the track tomorrow
And it's too many miles
To just put on the Aston
Why don't you drive me?
Why don't you take the Aston and you then you don't have to fix your tire to go to jury duty by tomorrow
Oh, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna drive my pink car? Oh, cool. Okay. That would be helpful. Yeah
I will roll out today. I have it yesterday. No today. I arrived at court in my car left for lunch and returned in a lift
And uh, when I got picked up in a lift, I felt like I had a dy case. I was fighting. Where is your car?
It's at home. Okay. I got I got home. It was like two blocks and it looked and it was fine
All right, but that would be helpful. That would be very helpful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right
You can you roll the Aston jury duty. This will I'm sure you'll be totally unbiased
So Zach because Zach has the fucking jury duty, which is his civic duty
But uh, he literally missed missed the db 12 s in the canyons today
Um, fortunately, you have it over the weekend. Well, I'm gone. So you can have some fun
But but also the zinger at the miss the zinger at the track tomorrow
They're gonna make more Aston's burritos the zinger and a breakfast burrito
I might want a few laps in the pink car too
You should I should I mean last time I was there. I drove my car in the streets. It was so fun
No, I did I did like three laps uh, uh, when I I forgot to talk about on the podcast
I did like three laps in it while I was up there for the f1 race
Um, and wow, it is a lot of torque
It's a lot of torque and also the ps4 s tires are really not enough for these kinds of speeds
On the track. I mean, it's fine. They're fine, but like
I could fucking spin them in third and and and you know, I
Can easily enter a court with these brakes. I can easily enter a corner
and this kind of speed
faster and
And develop some understeer
Just like just like if I had stickier tires that I wouldn't have understeer
Like it's like the car is set up for street driving. It's not set up for track driving
So right you're gonna use to closing speeds. But like yeah, you I mean, I gotta slide it
No, I well I did good. All right. It's it's very easy to slide great. It's
Very very bring your pink car throw go pro vertical from the back for the bus stop and just put that shot up for social
But that's a good time. It is it's really really easy to slide. It's not hard at all
I saw a nice like a pearl white spider today with a red top and I was like, oh, oh, yeah, the white white with the red works
Yeah, I mean
There's another frozen berry
One somewhere that has my my interior the two-tone interior and has a red top and it's a lot of red man
It's almost too much. There's way too much red. Yeah, yeah
But on a white you could swing it you probably have a black interior though
You probably maybe if you did black interior red belts red
Like just seat centers that could probably work
That could you can make that work? I didn't get close enough for that. But I saw go by and say that's a good look
It'd be funny. It's like a classy color. But if you had the big engine, it'd be a sleeper
But um, that would be super helpful. I will have the most expensive car in the car park of court
By probably a huge mart like the judge will look at me and be like this is why I didn't let you off
Right. Do we know what the trial is yet? Yeah, but I can't talk about it. Yeah
What else was in this list before we before we move on from this meekum thing even though we've clearly already moved on
The we had we did a 9.7
On a 1,300 kilometer says a sub thousand mile
Uh 95 ferrari f50. Wow. Yeah, I'd rather drive this than the Enzo, but but you wouldn't be driving it
1,300 kilometers dude. That's a that's a sitting there. Oh, you would drive it
I would drive it. Oh, you would you would buy it to drive if I have 200 million dollars and I know that I'm gonna die with
Yeah, I would drive the hell out of it. We talk about this all the time
The goal would be to be wealthy enough to drive the thing and not care about it. I agree. Yeah, I agree
Yes, I'd rather drive this than the Enzo for sure manual and I'd you'd save them
You'd save 600 grand in the process. There you go. It's a deal 600 grand. You don't much
You don't much gas that is in an f50. That's a bunch of gas. How many services is that in an f50 six?
Yeah, probably I mean
I bet a service on an f50 is like
Fucking 80 to 100,000 for a major. Yeah. Yeah, you you take the car in half
To do that shit where I want to go to the right 8.5 for a la ferrari, but deliver that's delivery miles
Yeah
So that car was like but they're they're huge man when we stood next to one at 1010
I forget how big they are. They love a big car. They are
Yeah, it's not it's not what I would personally spend that kind of scratch on what do we got here? That's maybe
A little more approachable approach. I don't know if that's the right. Well, it's offensive. I mean, this is clearly the
This is the hypercar auction for clearly. Well, these were the big number stuff
Wow, bugatti eb 110 super sport
GT 350s, what about you? What do you what do you think about a little gt?
65 gt 350 I want one so bad and I make fun of my wife once a quarter for not buying the great replica that we passed on
And she's like and I go it's not her fault though. It's not her fault
She goes, why didn't you go?
Why didn't you go quarters on it with my stepdad and my brother in line?
I was like that's a thing we could have done and then I feel like an idiot
All of these though are like no fucking miles is the problem
Delivery miles 156 miles 40 kilometers on a 935
Like ah like it like dude, it bums me out that like
Just you know capitalism always beats car enthusiasts
Like it's so profitable to buy one of these things and then just park it
Doesn't that suck? Yeah, like that sucks very much sucks
Like this is not why I like it's one thing if you have 40 cars
Okay, I get it. You can only drive cars so much you work you have kids. There's only so many places to go
but when it's like
Dude when you've had when you've got a car that's 12 years old and it's got a thousand miles on it
Like what are you doing like go somewhere for a weekend in your car? Come on?
Yeah, there's there's low miles because you can only drive so many things and then there's
Just delivery miles where it's clear that you just bought it bubbled it. Yeah and flipped it
It was a bummer. How about this? Maybe a little more approachable 512 tr
Five speed. Oh, yeah, still probably 300 000 bucks very expensive, but
A fucking fantastic analog here you go. You like a boss Mustang. I do like a boss. My scoop is huge
Yeah, boss 429 k k k code. Um, wow, that's pretty fun
Big fucking numbers down there. He's being really big numbers
But at the same so time we've got some like huge numbers on blue chip stuff
I've I've heard anecdotes of
You know the the wednesday thursdays of these auctions
Where it's you know, random ass bell airs and Buick regals and Pontiac Le Mans and you know, just whatever
You know
Nice, but in not significant cars. There are deals to be had that's what I was hoping to find down here, but they don't post
the like an amx
200 miles
200 mile
All right
Me can if you're listening start posting the things that sell on a wednesday so that we can cover it, you know, that's 50 years
200 miles that's probably just in and out of trailers. You know what I mean
I I feel like three people owned it someone owned it
And bubbled it when they bought it new because they love the amx
And then it probably went to a museum and then to a person who has obscure sensibilities
Can you search for a gt 500 do a little search there for a
Shelby gt 500
I want yeah 60 for 67 super snake
These wheels are terrible. Those are those are hubcaps. Those are white wall tires white walls on big
tall wheels that one at the bottom is sort of similar to the
To the the revology car. That's kind of what I wanted to see is like an original receptor
I keep seeing this
427 cubic inch police interceptor v8 the cops chase me this i'm pulling over to talk to them
What's up, bro? Like dude without things awesome 428
um
Because i'm writing for 19,000 miles. I'm writing for road and track this month about how
You know in in some cases like this revology or that boron motorworks thing the the recreations are more expensive than the real things
Right, so you want to know what I'd like to know what this actually sold for
Uh, where could we find that information? Just find google the vign number. Is that the vign number?
There you go serial number
Let's see if we can find that motherfucker
Well, southern bees arm southern bees, huh? Oh, here we go
Haggerty has it was sold for 400 grand. It was sold for 400 grand last january. Okay. All right. So it's so it's a little bit more expensive than
a
Revology just like 380, but it's 19,000 miles the vast majority of these will not have such low miles
You know what I mean? Yeah
So the average 67 gt 500 will not be 400 grand. It'll probably be 250 to 300
Maybe that's a good question like were these cars
Driven more when they were new because they were still the most expensive Mustang
You know, so they're bought by people who maybe maybe the same problem existed
People had too many cars or had too much work or they were just driven a lot more because it started 50 years ago
I don't know. I think these cars were not necessary. I don't think there were very many cars that were
Collectible from new in the 1960s
You know in the 1960s
Most people who bought even very fancy cars use them as their car. You know what I mean like
They it wasn't like and maybe they had a few cars
But it wasn't like
There weren't a lot of these collections in the 60s where people bought a new thing and then just stuck it away in plastic
That happened. That didn't happen starting until like the 80s
um
but
Yeah, okay. Good condition 168 on haggardy price guy. They don't have the miles listed here as curious, but yeah
But night, I mean 19,000 is low for enough for a 67. That's a that's a low mile car by anyone's standards
Yeah, all right. All right, cool
Good to know. Oh, dude before we get to the questions fucking
Cricket
With an assist from monte actually I should say monte monte monte and cricket. It's unclear who actually
Haunted and caught the bird
But monte brought the live bird into my house. Cool. And how big a bird. What are you talking about?
tennis ball
No, it was uh, uh
Slightly smaller than this water bottle. Okay skinnier like uh, like uh, you know
Dumb and dumber like peaty. It was Yeah, okay. Everyone knows everyone's gonna know what I mean when I say this
Like peaty from dumb and dumber was like that and
Mulled the fuck out of this thing and fix it with masking tape dude
But it did but didn't I I managed to like stop
It was cricket by this point from like killing it
but like
Only so it wasn't like just a disgusting mess in my house like it was essentially gonna die
Right, but you wanted to prolong that experience for the night. I had no I took it outside and put it in a towel and no
I didn't shoot it. I know I I snapped its fucking neck. Did you yeah?
I'd seen him. I see him do it all the time in quail hunts
You know when a bird is wounded, right? I see them. I see the quail guides do it like a hundred times to fucking shoot
So I've seen it. I've never done it, but I've seen it done. I didn't enjoy it. I bet didn't enjoy it at all
Yeah, I did not enjoy it. We first moved into our new place
A bird hit our window and got like hurt its wing. No, no extra. I take that back
It didn't hear a window Sarah found it by the pool
Like she saw this bird like trying to get around and broken leg broken wing
We bring it inside and we text a friend of mine who was like a vet tech
We're like, hey, what can we do for this? Where can we bring it?
And she goes well, you could just twist its head off
And I mean this this woman like is a farm chick and I went what and she goes look
That's the quickest way to do it and that's what they're they're not going to do that the vet
But they're going to euthanize it so you could just do it and save yourself a drive
No, we tried to like feed it and hope it got better and it died it died in the night. Yeah, so yeah
Yeah, you should have just ripped it
No, it's gnarly that's fucking gnarly. I didn't enjoy it. It was a tiny little bird. I had felt no resistance whatsoever
But I did not enjoy it see in our situation
There's no blood and we've watched too many videos of like
Person heels crow crow is now friends with their dog forever. I mean, you know me and my wife and so we
No, no, they're real. They're very real, but we were very optimistic
That it might come back, you know, and it might heal itself up
So 100% fully
These are very real videos this shit happens infrequently sure
I just i'm so proud of my girls are for
Of cricket and monti for catching a bird. Definitely. That's fucking some real shit dude. I really like that. Yeah, they uh
But man, I did not
Of a I was sort of hoping it couldn't still fly because that's all I needed is the fucking bird flying around my house
And uh, it's hard to catch dude
Yeah, no, fortunately it was it was wounded enough that it was not that hard to catch for me
Once I got but well as soon as I saw cricket knew that her time with the bird was up
So she growled
And this cat loves me she growls at me grabbed the bird and took the fuck off running and I was like
Oh, no, like so i'm trying to like herd her
To at least take off running back into the backyard
And I've talked about this a lot my backyard is walled in so the cats can't get out
So I when I during supervised time I let them in the backyard when I'm there
But like I'm trying to get her back into the backyard and she does not want to go outside
so she's running like through the fireplace like back and forth and uh, eventually I pick her up
with the bird in her mouth
And uh, I take her outside with it. She finally puts it down
Then I put it down right but
Fucking it's a prideful moment though. Oh, it was great. Yeah
And you want to see and I was like Hannah they brought a live bird into the house and she was like
Did you give them treats and say they were good?
I was like no
You took their feet away chase them around the fucking house
Well, then I remembered that we went to the hoity-toity playa vista farmers market where you can buy
Dead dried birds. We have done that for our dog. Yeah, so then Hannah was like, no you have to we have them in the cupboard
You have to give them a a dead baby quail, which I did
and
Cricket is there so cricket ate a dried baby quail
her in
Two bites
Chomp chomp gone. It's like holy shit. She was charged up. She's fired up ready. Just ready. Yeah
Snuggled with me all night. It was like very happy with herself
Oh, it's a whole like hunt hunt kill eat sleep hunt catch kill eat green thing. Yeah from the cat book
Dude, all they they all after hunting these birds all day. They slept
All fucking night so well. They were they were because their bloodlust had been, you know quenched
The thirst had been quenched and they finally assembled. Yeah, for sure. Like a vampire
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ping pong my ding dong
It says
Uh, I'm almost two weeks off of my burble tune in my
F 30 without relapsing and turn it back on
It's been nice ripping the car and just having the way it sounds sounded the way it sounds without the burble tune
If you're over 30, you know, you need to stop with that
um
Side note my three-year-old says the blow off valve on my gen 2 raptor sounds like the truck is ripping toots
So I can't win ripping toots is fun. Let's see use that in the video
The db 12 does that the db 12 has a little blow off noise when you live that's kind of cool. Yeah
Of course real fucking fast
It's very fast
Uh forza eight my free time says
Uh, I'm ready to buy a jdm import
Uh an r 34 with an rb 25
So that's an that's an r 34 skyline non gtr. It's like a gts t
Or an r 32 with an rb 26. So that's a gtr
Both seem to be coming in at 65 k
Is the gap between these options and the r 34 gtr largely a rareness collectability gap?
Or is the r 34 really gtr really that much better than either a lower option to r 34 or an older gtr
It's a good question. Yeah
Okay
I would say the gap from an r 34
gtr to an r 32 gtr
Is largely
aesthetic
Electronic yeah the computing power went up a lot a lot between the 32 and 33 and then the 34. Yeah
aesthetic electronic
And then your sixth gear
Outside of that the driving experience is like fairly similar slightly bigger car too, right?
Like this still feels pretty much the same the 34 is more power, but it's heavier
Like the 32 is lighter
You can you can essentially make have them all end up in the same place if you want
The big thing with the 32 gtr versus 34 is the ceramic wheel turbos, which can easily be
Change and upgraded and it only becomes a problem if you're running like big power
I would say
If the dream is an r 34 gtr
Then an r 32 gtr is closer to the dream
Than an r 34 non gtr. Yeah, I agree with that
An r 34 non
I can't believe an r 34 non gtr is being sold for $65,000 but now that the 34 gtrs are like 200 plus, right?
that is with respect to
My friends who import cars and know the market better than me fucking crazy
Yep
a rear drive
non gtr r 34
Is like a $25,000 driving experience
I have never driven. I don't think no. I have not driven one. I mean i've driven a 34 gtr
And it feels like a fantastic japanese e46 m3 with a whole drive and turbos on it, but
With the rb 25, you know slightly smaller. It's less. Yeah, it's less. But if you have a rear drive one
With with less
It's like a nice. It's actually a nice, you know, it is a very nice car
It's a slick a slick inline six powertrain, you know, just like the 26. Is it basically a sophisticated?
Like 240 sx. Yeah, okay
Much very a very sophisticated 240 sx because the actual skyline platform like is good
um, and when you remove the
Driving from the front tires you end up with better steering feel and things like that
It's like a nice car, but like 65 grand
Jesus christ friend. Well, but if you think about it like
Uh, is it closer in driving to a mark for supra?
Or does it actually feel a little bit more athletic than that?
It's been a long time. Okay tough to tell. Yeah tough to tell it's expensive
I
Would go I would go r32
Yeah, because it because it says gtr the market will always know what it is always want it
There are there's a market obviously for the gts t's. They're out there, but it's smaller
For this the yeah, the yeah the r34 non gtr like people are into it, obviously
But it just doesn't have as much cache. I never would have considered a gts t to be a
Collectible, you know real a real collector grade car
You know to like I always was like when I when I drove one
I was like, oh, this would be like a great like fun just like car to just use as a car
Not to like invest or rip strictly on the weekends. Like it wasn't enough
To be more than like just a nice car, but it was a very nice car
That's interesting because it makes me think of like 9 11 t versus 9 11 turbo
You know the all the r34 gtr is the turbo now you've got only rear-wheel drive
It's a simpler car lighter steering all that stuff, but
For some reason it's just not seen in that light or maybe it is about maybe it's coming into that. I don't know
Yeah, I mean, they're only like the rb25 is like only like it really is like 225 horsepower
It's not that much horsepower. Like I think there's an aftermarket for it. There's like stuff you can do
but um
That's just I just
That's just my impression of it was not that that is a investment grade
kind of car
Maybe i'm wrong though. I haven't I haven't watched that market at all ll. Cartier 1 to 10. How cool would a c5?
Pace car be as a track and weekend toy keep it aesthetically unchanged, but coilovers and send it
I
am not
Were there any c5 pace car coups?
I think they were all convertibles. I think they look ridiculous
They do look ridiculous
Yeah, and if you're into that and you're down to get out every day wearing your yellow crocs and be like that's right
I drive a spongebob cartoon car. Yeah, sure, but can you just google c5 corvette?
Pace car and let's see if any
Uh coupes come up. I've only ever seen convertibles
Convertible convertible convertible. Yeah, that's not real
That's the 2003. I'm talking about the one that we're talking about is the fucking
Neon wheels. That's what we're talking about and I and and those are all convertibles
so
I'll tell you what there could be a fun bit of irony
In faking the livery on a coop for a track day beater
If you wanted to spend money on a vinyl wrap
Yes, if you want to spend money on a wrap build an ugly car for the lulz, right?
And there are people out there that have that money and mindset and you know go for it
For real if you if we were in a place where we could find a corvette that was appropriate for lemons slash champ
I would shanty livery on a lemons car for sure. Yes
So anyway, I
Yeah, I don't think there's a coop. We need a coop
So saw spin blue
Does that am I missing us some kind of thing?
Sauce been blue. I don't know
Anytime you step into a truly light sports car. It's almost enjoyable lightness adds
so much value in terms of performance
And with cars getting gargantuan when will someone come out with a new light weight but not miata small
Sports car that's designed to dance with you. I like how he says new night light weight
But not miata small parentheses 2400 pounds sports cars designed to dance with you a miata is almost 2400 pounds
If you made a miata any bigger it would get heavier than that true
2400 pounds is like I mean g r86 is the next neighbor. I think in terms of both lightness size
cost
Uh, I mean that's that is the car. That's it. Yeah, right
In terms of new cars. Yeah, well toyota has talked about a possible mr2
Right that might use
The the the g r corolla the three cylinder as a as a possibility that
It's supposed to be supposedly mid-engine. Maybe all-wheel drive. I hopefully it's not
I'd hopefully rear-wheel drive
There there's some hope there
um
but that's
You know light is really hard man, and there's not a lot of profit in light. Yeah, you know
People it's like light cars like mexican food people say they love it
But they're not willing to pay a fucking fortune for it, you know
Uh, because it's so because the cheap stuff is so good
You just you don't you just don't need it. Um, and people people are people are uh
Well, there's a gulf right like if the car is light and cheap people are fine with it because they go
Well, it's light because it's cheap and then if it's light and expensive they go right because they had to use carbon fiber
And gordon murray had to fly in and you know
Think and do stuff like that in between it's expensive. I want stuff for my money, right? Yeah
Like we just talked with those those longbow guys
And I don't want to get too into it because they don't have a car for us to drive yet, but you know
Uh lightweight sports car
Not much of an interior
Very true. Yeah their prototype interior was yeah
Basically, I'm swingers and singers. This question dude is so funny. Wait, let me
Thank you for warning me to read that first
I'm glad this matches up with the fucking username though
My partner and I
Opened our relationship and now it's time for us to start meeting fun lucky couples god
I hope this is real if you had to pick a car to pick up couples
At the 25k 50k and 100k price points. What would you choose for some extra luck?
This is a fabulous question
This is my favorite question of the day
And we will need the input of queer shifting gears
For the queer angle of this because I'm only able to give you a straight swingers perspective
I'm not really sure about the queer perspective or if it even mattered or if there is a
There might not be it might not matter but it might car enthusiasm is universal
It also might yeah, all right. So if you are trying to fuck another couple
using a car
The answer that immediately comes to mind is Bentley turbo r. This is a swingers vehicle
It really is yeah, you've been pimpin since been pimpin. Yeah, if that person pulls up to your house
Like drinking a martini while driving
You're like, all right, you know you're in for like not an ascot, but open shirt for sure
You're ready, you know down to like the naval type. Yeah, yeah, yeah
um
So 20 that'll be your 25k. I mean, it's not going to get you great turbo r, but it'll get you a runner
50k
What are we swaying with 50k?
Now do you have to put the other couple in the car? Yeah, you do. I think you're going on a double date
of some kind
I don't know what the entry
Point is
Well, no, okay. Hang on 50. What are you doing at 50? We're going brand new. Well, no, we're not going brand new
No for anything. Um
I
If I toyota century
Oh
For two reasons
It's interesting. It's different. It shows creativity which might come into play later
But also it's a toyota
It's a responsible choice even though it's an interesting one
And that means these people whoever picks me up in a toyota century. I bet they get tested because they they're not reckless
You know, this is an abotel rive
With like cigarette burns in it. Like, you know, the people will be fun
But you're going to the doctor the next day like you're getting checked. Yeah, I go toyota century. That's very good
50k
It's going to be a rolling heavy fuck van
It's going to have a it's going to have a round porthole. No, it's going to be a good one. It's going to be a dodgebond
Fuck van. There you go. That can go to a track day on the weekends
And then fuck in the paddock. Well, because the back is open. Yeah, it's empty. But carp with carpet
Yeah, well, you have to full interior it out. Why?
To fucking exactly why and tear gets in the way
Oh, it's got shag carpet. That's all okay. It's got a shag carpet. It's a race van
You got to take the seats out of the track. No, no, no, no, I've already solved this problem
Your seats are inflatable. You have a whole inflatable nicely. It adds almost no weight
But feel fully you'll just fill it out
Right full full suite of inflatable furniture
I would like to add as an option because I'll have a roll cage for the track. You could have sex swing hanging from roll cage
Genius once you park. Why are we doing podcasts? Why don't we have a big car?
Why don't we have a business instead of let's just call it swinger and a whole steel their logo?
Open it. I'm saying right the building next to them singer zinger and swinger say every load is important. Oh my god
Singer a singer would get all of our packages that are you know the ups person's like, oh, it's gotta be a typo
And it's just like here's sex swing sex swing right next door
Is that what you're saying? Yes between singer and zinger and zinger exactly. It'll be singer zinger and swing right
And and the the boxes will get all mixed up. It'll be fantastic. So for a hundo
If you want to I mean, I'm gonna this might be it might sound shameless, but the Myers mangs resorder
Which is the tube the four-seater the four seat Myers mangs says
You know sparkly paint job
Shag carpet very good point tassels on the bimini top
I'm ready to bone
And I have and I have weed
You can't bone in the car. No, but that's okay as soon these other vehicles kind of accomplish that as soon as you get there
Goal yellow says is there a correct way to operate a watch that has a sweep second hand as part of a chronograph?
function
Let it run all the time or leave it parked or is it overthinking it and do what you feel type of thing
Um, I don't understand any of this question. So if you have a chronograph, right like I'm wearing
I'm wearing in my speedmaster right now
The second hand is the little sub dial here. It's not the big hand
So some people that have chronographs
They like to just run the chronograph all the time so that the second hand just goes around like
Three-hander watch does so the question is
Is there a quote correct way to do it? Do you just run the chronograph all the time?
Do you not run the chronograph all the time? What do you do?
You have a large second hand going around because I just started the chronograph. I just turned it off normally
I don't oh
I thought you meant the
Oh, that's the second hand running all the time. The other one has to be started manually. Okay, got it
That's the question. So so the harshness of a chronograph is in the stop start and reset
It's not in the like running. So if you leave it running all the time
There's like a little more drag on your powertrain like think like towing a trailer
So your power reserve will be slightly less
While running the chronograph
But you're gonna go through your battery more quickly if it was an ev if it was an ev right if it's if it
Well, you have a spring it'll go through your spring more quickly
And because it's well my watch is a hand mass hand wound watch. So that may matter
in
But it in in terms of wear and tear
It will not wear and tear more to run the chronograph all the time just to stop start reset
And again, it's meant to be used
So you'd have to do it a lot to really cause any kind of fucking damage
So I don't run the chronographs all the time
But I know people that that do and it ain't that weird. I'm gonna say
No, correct way to do it
There's just a way that could potentially
Make you need to service it once every nine years instead of once every 10 years
You don't mean like that kind of thing as an aggressive capitalist which I am we know this
I would want to have a watch that only has one second hand because you have redundant
You have a job that's being done by two people right now and you don't need that
So get rid of one of them save some money buy a new jet
Have you ever used a split seconds chronograph? What is that? It's can time two laps at the same time. I have not
Yeah, it's pretty fancy shit. It does seem fancy. It's cool. You gotta like stand there and click click
No, the car goes by. No, it has it's it's got an extra button
And so you start the chronograph and then when
If if for if two cars start at the same time
And then you hit a button when the first car crosses the line
And then when the second car crosses the line and it pauses and it shows you the gap of like whatever seconds
That's cool. Back before iphone and like digital timing that would be handy at a racetrack
You can leave one of the hands running and freeze the other one and that's the complication they use to time
continuous laps like at Le Mans
That's how you would sit there with the clipboards
Right one of them continues and you freeze the other one
Write it down and then hit a button and it catches back up. That's a split seconds chronograph
So a lot of those like famous like Hoyer stop watches that are on the clipboards and shit. That's what those are
Yeah, they're fucking dope
Uh dismoldering rim. My wife is pushing me to sell my old cars and buy a newer car
I have an
an o5 vet convertible with big cam heads and nitrous nice
A camaro the single turbo 900 wheel horsepower and a mini cooper s with suspension and bolt-ons
I like the spread. It's fun. I like the spread a lot. That's a good time
I think i'll have more fun with what i've established than getting into something new
If I sold everything for top dollar, maybe 50k and I don't think i'll get a car that will scratch what these things could do
You sure as shit won't you're very smart. You're very smart
Um, if your old cars and these are not that old
2012 or 2011 and o5, they're not that old
If they're reliable and not like just a drain on the bank account. Yeah
You're probably better off keeping them because assuming you did these mods and didn't buy them modded
The longer you keep them the better your dollar is
On your mods like the best time to mod your car is as soon as you buy it
And the best dollar for dollar
For value for your mods is to keep that car for a long time because no one you sell that car too
Is going to give you any kind of value for those mods days per dollar
So the long if you're going to mod your car the longer you keep it the better your value
so
I can't think of anything new
I mean this person
They like heroin, you know 900 horsepower Camaro
big nitrous on a vet and then this mini cooper, which is probably like their little slot machine car like this person likes
big adrenaline
And there's nothing you'll get for 50 grand that will be as fast or crazy or interesting. Yeah, I completely agree
I completely agree anything you're gonna buy is gonna be dull by comparison
And you're gonna start putting money into that. Exactly. That's like I was like Ariel Adam is probably close
But not fast enough in a straight line and then you start modding it and that'll be expensive if you like what you have
There's no better financial plan than just to keep it. Just just don't do anything
Yeah
I think that's probably it right. Yeah
Is this it last one? No, no more. Sorry. USS enter thighs says
If and when the new sti gets released, what kind of changes would you like to see that could improve it dynamically?
More horsepower
Yelling away from the mic because I've yelled this before I'd like it to be a brz
And not a wrx. That's a cool. I'd like it to be a brz sti with a turbo. How about that?
How about them motherfucking apples? Those are great apples
And maybe a lift like maybe it's an sti like a rally
It's not a brz safari
It wouldn't be that but if they gave the brz if they gave the brz good horsepower and called it the sti
I think everyone would be pretty well
It'd be pretty great. I would be very aroused the wrx fans would be so mad, but they shouldn't be hanging onto that boat anyway
I hope
Go watch the um
This mozi video, please
It's very not just because it's a not just because I want your click so I can have
A third of a penny. It's uh
It's so because it's a really good car and it's literally like the car that everybody says they want
And then when they offer it people like oh, no, that's not what I meant
Are people saying that that's not what I wanted or are they saying I can't afford it? Well, they're they're
They're saying it's
I mean some are saying it's not a good value, but it is
I mean, this is that's a there's a difference between something being good value and and and you not being able to afford it
I I like
I'm not
I think I've made it clear enough that i'm sympathetic to people that can't afford these things like that's a different issue
From is this car a good value relative to its competition?
It is objectively a good value relative to its competition whether or not someone can afford it different issue
I can't do anything about that other than speak my fucking opinion right may which is going to affect nobody
Let's compare cars. I'll tell you who is worse. That is a good deep cut rise against there. Um
I bought swing life away. I bought tickets. They're playing at some fucking outside outdoor show with um
With christian james. I want to say it's afi. Whoa. I think it's afi. Wow might be afi
I got tickets though if you want to go it's in the fall. It should be fun
Is it afi? You look at that up. I was like 14
I want to say they just came out with like a collab thing and they announced the tour and I just
Impulsively bought tickets because it's rise against
I'm going to fucking hit up jerry horton and i'm going to ask if he can somehow hook it up
I've been listening to a lot of papa roach. They I don't think they got the credit they were due
Back in the day. I think great band. I think it is. It's afi. I think it's afi
Yeah, I'm gonna go see that
You want to go? Yeah, I got I got to it's the whole show is ga from the beginning. Yeah, me too. They're fucking good
I saw them in philly back in the day at the fucking electric factory
Uh, let's compare cars. I'll tell you who's as worse says as communities want less noise from racetracks
Will there be room for electric race cars to allow?
Practice a training racing quietly. I mean
I thought that's what would happen at laguna seca if they lost their lawsuit
They would they would keep the track and allow
Ev racing there. I think they would do that and I think
Like if that happened tomorrow
The low adoption of evs as we are would lead to the track closing probably within two years
That's just it like there's not enough people with electric sports cars that would be able to
Pay for laguna seca to not be developed into like into houses, right? I agree
But if it happened in 15 years and there's more evs around there like
Then that would probably be the solution that the neighbors would hate which would be wonderful. Yeah
I would say that there's probably if there are racetracks that have noise restrictions
There are and yeah, you know if there are and like let's just say that that means they can only operate
Certain days of the week for instance or certain hours of the day or
Any other restriction
If running evs around the track like is well below that threshold
Like it could it could open up a potential new revenue stream from a track
Road america said that they had to stop running cars like hard at 6 p.m
Because of the neighbors. I wonder if they could start doing night races with evs
I don't were there lights on the track at the road america. I do not think so
No, but when I did the thunder hill like they set up like two lights with generators to me
They like four it's like enough. No, you need you needed your own headlights and ours were bad
No, I did a vir. It was very sketchy
johnny ev gearberman says
12k project car fuck mary kill
12k
fox body c5 corvette
z28 catfish
Is catfish the wide mouth? Yeah
uh
I'll go ahead. Well, I just contributed something like this for the throttle house guys and I listed the z28 so I'll go
I would marry the c5
I would
I'd fuck the fox body because I almost bought one like years ago and I think I would kill the catfish
I would
Marry the fox body fuck the c5 and kill the catfish yama habibi says g r supra manual or nismo z manual
If you had to own it for five years or more, I would get the nismo
I prefer how the nismo drives and I
Don't necessarily care about ultimate tune ability. I care more about balance and to be perfectly honest like
the nismo is like
Fast enough for me and even if someone came out with like a tune or anything because it wasn't very loud
If someone came out with like a too exhaust and a tune and it was an extra like 50
But sounded like it was a hundred then I'd be very very happy but outside of that. I wouldn't I wouldn't anything
Yeah, that shit is nice
Lamborghini
Cooch touch sv yikes
um, haven't heard many alpha
Julia quadrufolio horror stories since the first years they were out looking at later model years
And I was wondering if you heard anything the contrary
So I left this reply because it seems like uh, she rub she rub on my dub on my bub until the tip is whistling has one
They said I have a Julia quad. It's a 2020 all the nightmare ones that reviewers had
Go into limp mode were the earlier 27 and 2018's after that. They're fine
But they add that it's still expensive to own they get bad gas mileage
Every four years you have to do the serpentine belt that costs about four grand
Wow belt service in a fucking modern car whole friend comes off. So in 2020, you know what happened alpha
Had a reorganization
Oh, yeah
Where they reduced the number of customization unique options and everything and made it
Like four option packages. So you could only order the car one of a couple of ways
and it and and that
Improved their quality like an astounding percent
By doing by doing that like they they couldn't they can't be Porsche
They can't build every car different
But like when they're only building four versions of the car
Like they actually can build a car just fine. So like yeah, the later cars once they switch to that
Uh production process like you really didn't hear about them being problematic after that
Yeah, and I I'm trying to find the stories because the number of combinations
They reduced from was like it started in the billions
It was like it was a huge number such of iterations and not iterations like different combinations of
trim and and this and packages and it was just leading to bad qc and and too much too many different suppliers with bad qc
And that helped a lot
Um
She rub on my bub until my tip is whistling that's fabulous
um
Why does every turbocharged mass produced car these days have specific engine displacements of 2 liter 4
3 liter 6 and 4 liter v8
Is it so manufacturers can cut costs by using the same components?
Or is there some kind of magic crossover that happens at 500 cc's per cylinder?
I
Would love to get an exact answer from this for this from an engineer and I bet we can yeah either scott or david twig
I'm sure could give us an answer for this
I do believe there is
An optimization that happens at 500 cc's a cylinder like I I actually think that is accurate that that is just
The right size to make a cylinder in a car
Um
I think there is a balance there that's what I remember from
Some you know because it's out east five cylinders the 2.5 and and the v10s are the 5.0 like it's there is I believe there is a
a magic
Not magic, but like that's a that's just an optimized
Yeah, I'd like to know too and I think
I bet there is a lot of part-sharing
Within you know if you make a two-liter, I make a two-liter and they make a two-liter and we have you know similar power requirements
We probably buy the same pistons assuming the three companies are happy with the quality of those pistons
Yeah, so it's easier for all of us to make a two-liter than for me to make a 1.75
Or something weird. Yeah
Uh notice me in the canyons
I was surprised to see the berry canyon stay in stock long enough to make it out of the patreon
Thoughts on why this would be compared to other colors that sold out in hours
um
Also, this will be my most expensive watch. I have several others in the four to 700 range
Um, how will I like this for double the money? Okay second part first you will love this watch
This watch is ideal
For someone coming up from a watch that costs hundreds or from someone coming down from watch that costs tens of thousands
That's right in the sweet spot
Um why this I mean look it's pink
You know, uh, it's the it's the sixth color. We've did we sold we sold
551 watches before
We did this color
Um
I think it's a beautiful color. I happen to think it's really fun
But if you're talking about within the patrons with which is a group of about what 1700 people 1800 people
It's a big group. It's a great group
But it's not that big of a group and when you're talking about a watch that's like
You know 1200 to 1800
There's only so many of those I can sell to folks some people are not into watches some people
Uh, many people are happy to support love the idea of a watch, but they're not going to buy more than one
They got one right. They're not collecting all five and so
Um, other people are like look
Good for them, but I'm not buying pink
Cool not everybody wants to rock pink. That's fine. I think it's beautiful not everyone will fortunately people have been generally supportive
Um, but you know, it's the sixth color of the same watch
So it's we've we've we may have squeezed the this lemon
You know as as hard as it can be squeezed given the uh, the the the patreon as a as a limit
It should be said
That it made it out of the patreon and it was gone an hour
So the second we gave the fucking public the taste of these things they were they were dunzo. So
I just think we have a limited number of people to sell watches to within the patreon
We're so happy for the support that we have
And we're so happy that people have bought these watches and enjoy them and wear them
Um, but there's just so many people to buy to buy these watches and so so it's
I don't see this as a disappointment at all
I mean we give the patrons first crack at it because we appreciate them and we want to make sure they can get one
Um, it doesn't mean that if the patrons don't buy every single unit that it's a super failure
You know by by any means at all. So, um, it's good that a few people outside the patreon got to get them for once
So it's all good. Um, we're we're just happy that the people who
Wanted one uh patrons and fans were able to get one
And uh, and and now that it's done we can uh, we can move on to the next project and
You know, it's a great fun thing to be doing. Um as part of this podcast is like
designing a product that's expensive
That people actually want to buy and that come back to you and go this is great
Like this is real like that's awesome. Yeah, that's not a lot of people get to do stuff like that. That's cool
Um and notices of their west and cullin and their whole like they're fucking great people
They're just like really great good people to work with and they do as much as they can in los angeles
Many of the components are made in asia and the movement made in switzerland, but but uh, the final assembly and the design and all that is done
Is done here in la fast back to the future says if they if infinity made a q50 red sport with a manual
Would it be right on time or a dollar short in a day late?
I'll tell you what if it was a nismo z four door
It would rip they almost made it
10 years ago. I was like I really got hired as a stunt driver like a faceless one for that exact concept and then they
Shuttered the concept. I think a month after we shot it
And and I didn't review infinities at the time if it bothers anybody
Um, but I remember like going oh, this would be cool. And then it was like project cancelled commercial dies
Yeah, so
Fast back to the future says what matches the fizz of a turbo?
1992 miata
But isn't a screaming metal death trap of a vehicle for relatively equal money
What is the value of a 92 miata? That's what I read this that I have no idea. Is it is it $4,000 or is it a really nice build?
And it's let's be generous and say it's 15 because what do we comp at 4g's 4g's your comps are running cars
What do you want from it?
Civic
I'm not trying to be elitist, but we need something to work with here bro. Come on
Fizz of a night turbo 92 miata. Let's give you 15 grand
I think a track ish prepped c5 is a good one feels like a miata very fast a car you can grow with your abilities can grow with
Um, and if you start putting a little bit of work into the engine, obviously you can make a bunch of power
And then that can terrify you
Sure
I mean if you can find a a scruffy boxster
Somewhere, you know, you you might be able to get in the game
For for even money there that'll be faster than a miata and it'll be it'll be nicely fizzy
If you could find if you can find an Elise
With a front bumper
Yeah
If you find an Elise with a cracked front clam, yes
20k and you're in the game jb weld the bumper and that that's a really fun exciting car
For sure. Yeah, because I mean the problem is this person is dealing with
You know, you're coming out of a 300 horsepower 300 pound car pretty much like not much is going to feel like that
And like you turn into an exoset
Which you could do well, but it says he's just screaming death trap an exoset is a screaming death trap. Yeah
Uh, you could find a
somewhat functional
Uh
BMW 135 i with some mods
You know that would be big power true
It would be a little heavier than you want, but but but it would be a different kind of fizz
Yeah fun and same goes for like a 335 that has some mods on it. How about like a great
R53 mini cooper s supercharged. Yeah, I think a 15 grand is a great one. Yeah. Yeah
Or if it oaf o2 to o6 mini cooper s
Couple bolt-ons service that bitch do the bushings. You're good. Mm-hmm
Randy says i'm a large man that has also recently lost a good amount of weight congrats randy. Good for you
What fashion brands or designer items were you most excited to get into once you were able to buy normal clothing sizes again, dude
I can relate
I um
Fuck
I shop at like four stores. It's really funny. The four stores I shopped are at are all right next to each other in
Malibu the shopping center like across where the bathrooms are I shop at faherty
I shop at outer known
I shop at double rl and I shop at veori and like those are that and they're all right next to each other
And then in venice I shop at marine lair and vince
Uh, and I just bought
I can't I still can't really fit an aviator nation which is hilarious aviator nation
Was was so cool. I couldn't fit in it and now it's like post-cool. I could finally fit in it. It sucks
um, those are the best ones, but like
What's frustrating is a little bit is that like
I spent a bunch of money on awesome clothes
20 pounds too early
You know what I mean started at 295
When I got to like in the 250s
I was like, I'm there
I'm in and I and I spent a ton of money on great clothes. You didn't realize what was possible
I didn't I didn't realize that uh that 68 months later
I'd be in the high 230s and all this stuff. I just bought and like war once would be too big
It's a how long do you think someone should be at a weight?
Before they go, this is where I'm gonna be
You gotta buy a few good a couple great items
But not over shop. Yeah, because you don't want to keep wearing as you've said like the stuff
That's way too big for you
Yeah, because then you're swimming in it and you know, you don't want to fill it back out
If you've done the work to lose weight the last thing you want to do is be wearing oversized clothes
You want to be wearing good-looking clothes now you put in the work
But like if you buy
A whole bunch of shit and you're still on on the move and you just go oh man, I just
It's okay. It's like it's like
It's like throwing pennies in the in the fountain of fortune
You know you got to a goal and you celebrated with clothes
You didn't celebrate with I lost 40 pounds. Let me eat. Let me eat desserts. Right. You know what I mean?
Like that's it's a it it is healthier to do that. Yeah, definitely
But like yeah, it sucks to spend a lot of money on really because the shit I buy
I don't dress fancy, but the shit I buy lasts a long time. It's durable
It's soft and comfortable and I can wear it in any condition and it lasts forever
Even these fucking veori t-shirts which are like thin and super like breevy and show my nipples and everything
These things last like six years being washed once a week
Like for a 48 dollar t-shirt like that's what I expect. Yeah, um
So to buy durable stuff and then not hang on to it for that long
Yeah, that's a bummer and you don't want to buy like the fast fashion, you know stuff that falls apart
For all the reasons. No, you know what I could just fucking last week learned I can wear now uniclo
I don't know. Well, it's the it's like a Japanese brand that sells like basics, but they're like
I don't know nice basics, but I couldn't I couldn't wear some uniclo shit. You and I ql sound it. Okay
Yeah
Anyway, I'm glad. No, I'm glad you're excited. I just I'm not a fashionable person
If you are still a bigger person
You need to follow my he's not my friend. He's my acquaintance david lane
On instagram. It's big fits one on instagram. It's like how to dress well as a bigger dude
and like
Uh, yeah, this guy
That's him
This guy's fucking great. I I really like him
And he is like he's got like his like work wear game is tight his like
Cozy winter wear game is tight. It's big fits one with the number one not the number one. Sorry. Yeah, and uh
I forget where I found this guy, but he's great
Shout out to david lane
He's if you're if you're a bigger dude and you want to learn how to dress well
This guy's got a great instagram and a great blog
I said, I've heard this a long time ago that women will pay more attention to how you're dressed
Then what they think you'll look like with you know underneath your clothes like fashion over fitness for most people
Yeah, it's also more important if you're on a date or something
That your car is clean
Then it then in that it's a nice car
Yeah, you know what I mean, that's true like if you were going out with a woman and you had
A lamborghini, but you had like trash in it and it was dirty
Versus you had a you know decent absolutely not a shipbox, but a decent car that was really clean
The it's the clean car
Because your life looks put together
So even if you have a lamborghini, they're like it's gonna look like you financed the shit out of this thing
Hanging on by a thread. Yeah. Yeah, exactly last 22 reno's one cup chassis better
Specifically, what is your favorite gear change?
For example, I really liked the 34 on my abarth. That's a great question. I like two to three
two to three I like two because two is
Is brisk acceleration car leans back a lot it feels kind of in my car like that's the quickest accelerating gear
And then third you can stretch it and you kind of sit in full throttle for a while
Long enough to be like this is illegal. This is kind of fast. All right, you know, you have to experience the car. Sure
That's very good depends on that depends on the engine and the gear of course
Given a standard h pattern
Like not a dog leg
I'm gonna go with a 32 downshift
As being my favorite gear change. Uh, it's a thing of beauty when it's executed very executed. Well
least favorite gear change
Is going to be
The 12 shift on the seven speed
Asked advantage that they did for like two years. Oh the advantage over. Yeah, that's weird
Last one riders on the geo storm says I found out recently
About the rare shades car club where it's just Porsche owners who celebrate
A pts color choices. That's it. I mean, I get it. That's fine. What's the strangest theme for a car club? You've known of
theme
Uh
I can't say I do you know of and I don't really know of anything
This is definitely the most interesting one. I've heard of
The rare shades car club. Yeah, because it's you know, usually car clubs are like we're a beamer crowd or a vip stance crowd or
It's it's about like the mark or
I guess the setup and this is like nope
This is just people that get rare color choices and that's what they want to talk about
um
Yeah, I mean cool like
You know, it's great that Porsche is willing to paint a car whatever you want. Yeah, I mean it really is
And so like
And it's cool that people want to like personalize their cars as long as they drive the cars also. Yeah. Yeah, I agree when when all
I don't know. It's so hard like I saw who's ranting about this. Um
You know people whose only focus is on their build spec and like they
Especially with 911s it's become like a thing you you got these seats
But with this stitching and this color and then the back is this because they'll let you customize so much stuff
And on the one hand, you know, can that come off as like annoying pretentious?
It's not about driving sure but we do with any hobby, you know
People are gonna always get more specific and into the minutia and they're gonna find different ways to enjoy things
Even if those things are mechanical
So and those are the same people like the same kind of the same personality trait that puts
rims on a Mustang and
Your fucking instagram handle on the quarter window
That's the same person that's going fucking apeshit over pts options and Porsche exclusive this and whatever
They're just in a different income bracket. Yeah, it's they're they're the reason they care so much is because this car
Is the way that this person expresses
They're themselves
Like especially if it's a car that they've built, you know from the from the factory. Yeah, it's
It's it's it's the same as wearing an outfit. It's the same as whatever and like
A lot of the people that own this shit are like not interesting people
I don't mean like on a fucking conversational level, but they have a boring job. They just whatever they dress normal
They're not they're not everybody's Magnus. This is their art
You know, this is their uh
We're looking for like their art studio. You know, they don't paint. They don't do
Sculpture on the weekend. Yeah, so they have this car and that's where they let and that's that's what's great about cars
Is you can express a part of your personality either one part of it in one car or all parts of it in one car
It's probably the same kind of person. They probably have a they probably have an expressive house of some kind
You know, they probably have a designy type space
They they may or may not care how they dress because cars
Having a custom car and dressing well are not one-to-one at all. Sometimes they're inverse as a matter of fact, but
But I mean
I don't you know, I know Doug is like offended with all the pts stuff. It doesn't bother me
I think as long as it's authentic and it's coming from a genuine place where you're like, I love this color and this
I think if people start going
What's going to be cool and and they're trying to fit in and be cool and then they're either hiring someone to like guide them
You know with their color choices or something or if they're just doing it to be obscure then that's lame
for sure, but getting a you know like
Getting a pts color
Is hard
Like you have to be approved
You have to like apply and be approved and then it takes a long a long time
You know, there's like there's there's delays and there's the it's it's if it's it's it's a real
It's one of those um requires more intention than just no, it's uh, it's a it's vice signaling
It's vice signaling. It's vice sock signaling. Look at vice sock signaling. Very good
It's it's look what I had to do to get this car. I had to pay an extra 20k
I had to wait an extra year
They had to pay in a practice car. I went in there with my wife's fucking nail polish and you know, whatever
It's a it's a whole it's a it's a look what I had to do
To get this thing, you know that otherwise is just writing a check
You're at because ultimately that's what it is doing is writing a check. So I think that's why
I hope I hope people that did this have an attachment to the color and they weren't just trying to like
You know follow the fashion of things. Yeah, because one thing that
You know folks that it's they'll they'll do the same pitch
If someone built a car and you walk up to them in a car show and you're like tell me the story
They want to tell you the story because they have all the work put in it
Same as the person wants to tell you the story of how this color came to be purchased
The difference is that someone built the thing and the story might be longer. I mean, I'm no I'm no innocent, but
I will say this
When your crazy color is uh, is crazy, but non pts
Such as frozen berry metallic
It's like a wonderful bit of stolen pts valor
Right. I think they think it's a custom color
But you're like, no, no, and you know, I just saw what you didn't see
Which is that that color's free
But ain't nobody brave enough to get it
And I'm gonna get it and I'm gonna make it fucking awesome
And I'm gonna create my own height machine around a color that they were giving away
Pen drop the good point. There it is. That's why you get frozen berry
Watch or car
um
We have the most paint to sample car that
Is right it's right there. We have the most paint to sample car. It's under a cover. You can I'm sorry, but
You've seen it. Didn't you see it? Which one the the the new the brand new 911 turbo that has
That
everything
Everything is mista chrome not mista chrome. Um
They wouldn't call that
No, what do they call it chroma flare? Excuse me. Porsche calls it chroma chroma flare. Everything is chroma flare even the inside
The wheels are chroma flare. Okay, all of the bits
Like the lower diffuser that would normally be black black plastic our chroma flare
Everything is chroma flare. The front splitter is chroma flare
It is the it has the highest msrp
I've ever seen on the 911 turbo s and it's it everything is chroma flare. Here's an st
That I might have the it's that color. This is not the same. This color is cool. The color is nuts
Yeah, I might have two things. Okay, the color is nuts. I can't those are those are like white gold wheels though
I don't think those are chroma flare wheels
Yeah
Um, all right. It is a it is. I mean, it's truly amazing. Uh, good amazing or just amazing
It's amazing to see
I think it's a little over the top for my personal taste
But it's an it's an amazing thing to see
Every I mean you look at it and you go
wow
I I can honestly say I've never seen anything like that like
I there was a guy at the audrain a couple years ago
They claimed to have the highest option gt3 rs ever and it was chroma flare and it had white leather on everything
There was a white dash white roof. I mean it was most it was the most ridiculous looking thing ever
um
And I think this has more painted chroma flare shit than that car wow. Yeah, it's wild
Uh, thanks everybody
That's our program
I I really wish Zach was out with me on the mountain today with the db12. It was it was fun. Yeah, me too
Um, I saw some Mercedes prototypes testing some like slopey backed crossovers in camo were up there testing
and uh
I can't believe you're not coming to the track tomorrow for zinger that sucks balls, dude
I mean I I put the jury thing on the calendar on monday
But I should have stretched it for the whole reporting week, but I didn't do that
And that's what I should have done there. It wouldn't have made a difference. It would not have made a difference this tomorrow is a confluence
of
Literally the only day this car is available in the next month
Or and the track being available
Like tomorrow is the only day right no jury duty or not. It's only day in may
Like we could have done in june
Well, no, no, no, we would have had to wait like the car there's one press card
Yeah, so so the car is going off
I can drive it before it goes off on its national tour or when it comes back got it and I was like
Okay, and I didn't know you had jury duty. I know I didn't I the odds were against, you know, the math says
I was
Two people away also from not having it. They saw you and they were like, were you wearing the shirt?
The the yeh shirt. Yeah
No, no, no, no not the the shirt that said which shirt the supreme court shirt. No, I didn't wear that
But actually they'd say like you pussy, you know, don't wear things that have slogans or what
They yeah, they tell you that like don't wear and yeah, I have a shirt from the onion that says like supreme court overturns right versus wrong
Yeah, yeah, uh, I definitely would have gotten asked more questions. Yeah
Which which which decisions exactly?
Uh
Thanks, everybody by the way when we come back to you
Wow, so many things will happen have happened when we come back to you all have driven
This is the high down force zinger on track. Maybe it'll rain tomorrow. Zach
Maybe it'll rain to be a good time in the desert
That'll be a good time. Look it up pray for rain. Do a rain dance clap, man
um
I'm going to the indy 500 actually this weekend
With uh with spike ferristan courtesy of edwards life sciences who would like you to get your heart valves checked
Cool, that's a whole thing. All right. Um, but uh, yeah, so we'll we'll we'll talk about it's my first ever indy 500
We'll we'll talk about that when we get back
Zach will spend a few days in the astin martin db 12 and talk about that and uh, yeah
Thank you to our patrons for keeping the ship floating down the ocean
We appreciate you very very much and if you're not yet a patron
Fuck you doing when you're waiting for getting the game. Thanks everybody. We'll see you later. Bye
About this episode
Swinger-themed car picks kick things off with a punchline Bentley Turbo R and a more responsible Toyota Century. The show then pivots through real-world driving and maintenance: a puncture turns into a “diff seizing” panic, worn suspension bushings change steering feel, and track talk centers on torque and tire limits. Mecum results follow, with Enzo and Singer prices, plus mileage-driven pricing debates. The episode also detours into Skyline/GT-R tech, MR2 speculation, and watchmaking/chronograph questions.
Zack Klapman's puncture; recent Mecum auction results are insane; the Mitsubishi Lancer's glow-up; Matt Farah's Taycan update; the great Czinger scheduling error; Paint to Sample parties; the best car for swinging (yes, that kind); and more!
Patreon questions include:
What car should we buy for swinging?
Aging out of burble tunes
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C5 pace car as a weekend toy?
When will someone compete with the Miata?
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