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Term
all-wheel drive
All-wheel drive means that the car can send power to all four wheels at the same time. This helps the car grip the road better, especially in rain or snow.
Car
Pajero
The Pajero is a type of SUV made by Mitsubishi. It's known for being tough and good for off-road driving, making it a popular choice for adventure seekers.
Car
Volkswagen Polo
The Volkswagen Polo is a small car made by Volkswagen. It's known for being safe and easy to drive, especially in cities.
Car
Volkswagen Passat
The Volkswagen Passat is a larger car made by Volkswagen, great for families because it has a lot of space and is comfortable to drive.
Term
1.9 TDI
1.9 TDI is a type of diesel engine that is small but powerful, often found in cars made by Volkswagen. It's designed to save fuel while still providing good performance.
Term
seven speed double clutch
A seven-speed double clutch is a type of automatic transmission that changes gears very quickly, making the car feel faster and more responsive when driving.
Car
Honda Crv
Term
timing chain
The timing chain helps keep the engine parts moving in sync. If it wears out, it can cause serious engine problems, so it's important to replace it when needed.
Part
tensioners
Tensioners keep the timing chain tight so it can work properly. If they break, the timing chain can become loose, which can cause big problems for the engine.
Term
distributor
The distributor helps send electricity to the engine so it can start and run. If it doesn't work, the engine won't get the spark it needs to fire up.
Part
module
A module in a car is a small computer that helps control different parts of the vehicle, like the engine or the brakes. If it fails, the car might not work properly.
Part
lifter
A lifter is a part of the engine that helps the valves open and close. If it's noisy, it might mean there's a problem that could affect how the engine runs.
Car
Mazda MX-5
The Mazda MX-5 is a small sports car that is fun to drive. It's known for being light and easy to handle, making it a favorite for people who love driving.
Car
300 Coupe
The Mercedes-Benz 300 Coupe is a luxury car known for its elegant design and strong performance. It's part of the 300 series, which has been popular among car enthusiasts.
Term
oil leak
An oil leak is when oil escapes from the engine of a car. If not fixed, it can cause serious problems for the engine.
Car
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX
The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX is a fast car designed for racing and performance. It's known for its powerful engine and great handling, making it a favorite among car fans.
Car
Toyota Supra
The Toyota Supra Mark III is a sporty car from the late 80s and early 90s. It's known for being fast and is popular among people who like to modify cars for better performance.
Car
Bmw M
Car
BMW M5
The BMW M5 is a luxury sports car that is very fast and powerful. It's designed for people who want a comfortable car that can also perform well on the road.
Car
Acura CL
Car
Mercedes-Benz CL63 AMG
The Mercedes-Benz CL63 AMG is a fancy sports coupe that is very powerful and luxurious. It's made for people who want a high-end car that also drives really fast.
Car
Mitsubishi EVO
The Mitsubishi EVO is a fast car that was built for racing and is popular among car fans. It's known for being powerful and fun to drive.
Car
Mazda Mx
Car
Nissan Skyline
Car
Honda Civic
Car
Acura Integra
Car
Datsun 510
The Datsun 510 is a small car made by the Datsun brand, which is part of Nissan. It's loved for being fun to drive and is often used in racing.
Car
Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series
The Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series is a super-fast sports car made for racing and performance. It has a powerful engine and special features that help it go really fast on tracks.
Car
Ford Ranger
Term
VTEC
VTEC is a system used in Honda engines that helps them perform better at different speeds. It changes how the engine's valves work to give more power when needed.
Car
Toyota Camry
The Toyota Camry is a well-known car that many people drive. The V6 version has a stronger engine than the regular model, making it faster and more powerful.
Concept
Japanese car
Japanese cars are vehicles made in Japan, and they are often seen as reliable and economical options for buyers.
Car
Honda Integra
The Honda Integra is a small, sporty car that many people enjoyed driving, especially in the 80s and 90s. It's known for being fun to drive and has a reputation for good handling.
Car
Honda Accord
The Honda Accord is a larger car compared to the Civic, often chosen by families because it has more space and is also very reliable. It's been popular for many years.
Car
Honda Prelude
The Honda Prelude is a two-door car that was known for being sporty and stylish. It was popular among people who liked to drive fast and enjoy a fun driving experience.
Car
Toyota Corolla
Part
steering rack
The steering rack helps you steer the car. If it's broken, it can make it hard to control the vehicle properly.
Part
differential
The differential helps your car's wheels turn at different speeds when you go around corners. If it has problems, it can affect how well your car drives.
Car
Honda S2000S
Car
Mazda Rx8S
Car
Subaru WRX
Car
Mgbs
Car
Citroen Ds
Car
Peugeot 504S
Car
Ford Mustang
Car
Suzuki Samurai
Car
Renault Wind
Car
Opel Tigra
Car
Chevrolet Epica
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It's me, Matty J, online with Mr. Edward Bunting,
Mr. Scotty Doe Johnson, Mr. Jim Barlow,
and in the studio with Mr. Alan Diefsinger,
Mr. Chad DeBowle.
How are you fellas?
What is going on?
What a crew.
Hello.
Hello, everybody.
Hello.
I've been on the long-time listener for the first time in a while.
You know, I think, Chad, we might swap microphones,
logically speaking.
Yeah.
Good idea.
Hey, that's how proof that this is a live program.
I believe you say on the podcast,
this is professional radio, gentlemen, as the intro.
And what is it?
Is a professional idiot?
Very, very true.
Good to see you guys.
Good to see you, Alan.
Welcome back.
Thank you for having me.
My apologies.
I've been in the wilderness.
Yeah.
A lot of meetings, a lot of committee business.
You wouldn't think that a small community radio station
would have as much committee business as it does.
Bloody full-time job.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's all volunteer.
So I'm looking for some kind of, you know, karmic bonus.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Lord, if you're listening.
No, it's good to have you back, mate.
Good to see all you guys online.
Big show tonight.
Plenty of, plenty of people here to,
plenty to discuss, which, which we'll cover very, very shortly.
But let's get on with some updates.
I'm deep seeing as you haven't seen you in a while.
Updates with you.
I don't think I have any real car updates.
Okay.
Cars just carring along.
I don't know if I ever told you,
I did finally get back to my Susan and say, hey,
give me my bloody paperwork.
They emailed that through.
Good.
That was a plus.
Susan sends me the paperwork.
I'm 90% sure they didn't send me the paperwork that said they,
I did my alignment again,
but we'll work, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
Or as the president of the committee says,
we'll fall off that bridge when we get to it.
What?
I kind of understand it.
A lot of these bridges are ones that you have to fall off
for us and cross.
Jesus Christ.
It's a bit grim, but, you know,
it is very grim.
It paints a picture.
It does.
Absolutely it does.
Well, that's your update.
It's chart updates with you, man.
I haven't really done much to be honest.
The weather hasn't been the best to be spending outside.
Oh, I did put the clock in the magna.
How's your help from the week before?
I mean, good.
It works.
It, you know, it tells the time.
It tells the time.
It tells the time.
Or even if it's broken, it's twice.
It's right.
Twice a day.
Twice a day.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's, you know,
had a nice bit of feedback from the magna people
to tell us how to wire it in.
And you helped me do that.
And then I sort of finished it off the next day.
Yeah, no, that's working.
It's officially now just a step above an executive.
It's an executive with a clock.
It's an executive with a clock, which is the first mod.
I think everyone does.
I think everyone's done it.
You know what?
It's actually kind of a nice clock.
Yeah, it is good.
It's very nice.
It's too subtle.
Just subtle.
It is.
It's like a nice, you know, bright face.
Yeah.
What else have I done?
Not much.
Just car washing, which is what's the point?
Because it's just going to get disgusting the next day.
Yeah, no.
Pretty, pretty quiet.
Otherwise.
Lovely.
See, Edward, he's joined your fraternity in owning TS, TS with
executive with a clock.
That's right.
That was my mum's wagon executive with a clock.
The option out, right?
That's bloody awesome.
It's fair.
The original owner, he, he optioned it and he told me it was
$400.
Really?
Which when those cars were new, I believe that.
I don't think that's.
Geez, that's a lot of money.
Yeah.
Why wouldn't he have just bought an SE at that point?
Because he didn't want to see.
He wanted the V6 executive manual wagon.
He color coded the bumpers and put a clock in it.
He even color coded the grill and the mudflap.
That car was all color coded.
That is so specific.
It was very specific.
But on an exec, like you get that on an SE.
Couldn't stretch the SE.
I don't know.
Weird.
$400 for a clock though.
I think we paid $6 at the Wreckers.
Which was an awesome deal.
How good is the Wreckers in that way, by the way?
They're really good.
I think they're some of the best I've been to.
For sure.
We're going to go back.
Yeah.
So that's the clock in the Magna.
That's Europe today.
Pretty much.
I think, yeah.
I can't think of anything else I've done.
We're going to put the spoiler in the Tarago next.
Oh, yeah.
The spoiler in the Tarago.
Yeah.
We did pick one of those up in Wreckers also.
Just going to get some real, like, strong double sided tape or something.
And slap it on.
No wiring needed.
No wiring needed.
Love it.
It actually looks kind of cool too.
It's going to look kind of cool.
It suits the car.
Edward Bunting.
Hello.
Updates with you.
You're always doing something.
There's always something going on.
Yeah.
When did we get to last time?
I sold the jazz to my mom's friend, you know, grandson.
The wasp went to its new owner.
I'm roosting around in that VRX with the hole in the muffler.
So I feel like a bad boy.
But it's because it's been so wet that all wheel drive in that has been fantastic.
I've just been taking corners and going on highways at 110 in the rain,
torrential and it just doesn't bat an eyelid that car.
So I'm very much enjoying that.
It does like to drink.
As I said last time, and as I got to the end of another tank,
I thought, I think I only filled that up two days ago.
But I did go up to the country and back like to my brothers,
but we're almost another tank full.
And I just thought this is a lot more than my Pajero even.
So that's that.
I bought a, you're all going to, I don't know what you're going to do.
I bought a Volkswagen.
He didn't learn his lesson the first time.
Like he's just...
Hang on.
I know there's been first and second.
I had the Passat wagon and now I bought a Polo.
I haven't had a Polo before.
Polo is somewhat safe.
Yeah, somewhat.
Third time lucky, I'm hoping.
Third time lucky.
So in my defense gentlemen, it was...
Is that at least apology to you?
No.
Then there's no defense.
There's no defense there.
There's no defense.
It's a 1.9 TDI.
So the little turnt diesel.
It's got the seven speed double clutch,
which is the better of them because it's a wet clutch,
I believe.
One owner, 86 Ks.
Black with a black interior, full service book,
two keys, floor mats, you know, like,
and she said, never had a problem with, it's been great.
I'm like, and she was an older conservative lady
who I purchased it from.
So I kind of had a level of,
I don't think she's a carie
and I don't think she's deceiving me deliberately here,
but, and it drives fine.
So I did test drive it.
You know, it wasn't like one that I bought from an auction
that you couldn't test drive.
So engine light.
Engine light, DSG behaving.
I thought, all right, let's, let's get you in and out.
You know, in and out.
Yeah.
So I bought that.
I feel like there was something else I was doing.
I've instigated, I sold the CRV.
Did I mention that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I know that sold quite quickly,
sort of within a week or so.
So there's still demand.
Even as a car talk top tip,
even if you've got far too many kilometers
to even be humanly, you know, fathomable,
there's still a buyer out there.
I think the fact that you sold it with a road worthy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How many commas were on the CRV?
Five, five, seven, six, five.
Jesus.
That is.
That's something.
You got a decent price for it.
I got four, three for that.
Yeah.
That's quite good.
Pretty.
Yeah.
It's a good car as well.
Yeah.
We got to get you to somewhere.
My technical old rex.
Yeah.
Like I said, I would challenge someone to bring a rexie
with 400,000 Ks.
That's running on the original engine.
It's impressive on that.
It's at 350 something or 360.
I think right now.
It is impressive.
So that's the CRV is gone.
Wasp gone.
VRX driving around.
What else is there?
C180.
Nothing's happened on that.
I got a list on the little W202.
I've just got to assemble some bits and then get it back in
to get the stuff done.
What about the big girl?
Oh, the big girl.
Well, actually, just before we get to the big girl,
we talked about David's Odyssey that we bought back
the other week.
Obviously, well, I bought back the other week.
And then did he talk about how that broke down?
He did.
Yes.
So that was, that was an edit in the driver's seat,
rolled to the side of the freeway.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
There's a truck coming.
And I've had another one of those situations yesterday
in the big girl.
So.
Oh, no.
I jumped in at yesterday lunch to take it down to one
of my mechanics to do a preventative timing chain
and tensioners because that, that V8 is known for
plastic tensioners being naughty after many years.
And I just wanted to, you know, put that to bed.
So we'll put a new unit and we'll put new tensioners
in it.
And then that's untouched for another 200,000
cape sort of thing.
So I was motoring along quite happily up punt road
up the big hill past the MCG on punt road.
And the thought occurred to me, oh, I've just got
club reg on this.
I must add that to my roadside assistance with
RACV total care because you can now have 15
club plated cars and two registered cars.
That's the new ruling.
So I'm not, I'm close, but I'm not at 15 club.
So I thought, I must add that because it would
be terrible if this thing broke while I didn't
have any roadside assistance.
30 seconds later, I pressed the hill where it
turns into Hodel Street.
I'm going down the hill.
It's like someone's turned it off.
I lost all power.
Oh dear.
I got gone.
So because I had a bit of momentum, I was
doing like sort of 60, 65.
So I slipped her into neutral.
I started thinking, where is my out here?
I was in the middle lane.
Thankfully no one was beside me.
So I got into the left lane, but I had no power
steering, not great brakes.
Obviously you lose all that.
So I thought, do I go, and it's amazing how
quick you sort of think in these situations.
I thought I can go straight ahead and then
I'm on the flat, but I'm blocking Hodel
Street.
No, there's a side street.
Take the side street.
So cruise, cruise, cruise, cruise,
rift it around into the side street,
pulled up alongside some parked cars.
I wasn't blocking the rest of the road.
That was my main concern.
And then whacked the hazard lights on and
thought, all right, you got no roadside.
What are you doing now, dickhead?
So, and you can't really push that car.
It's a big, heavy car.
So I rang my mate, the mechanic, who,
he wasn't far away.
He's only like two k's down the road.
I said, are you by chance free,
right now?
He goes, yeah, I'll run down.
So he runs down, checks a few things,
got no spark.
And he goes, that's really unusual.
The distributors on these don't normally play up.
And I said, look, it should have fuel.
I've done the sender.
It had a quarter of a tank.
Like that was accurate as far as I could tell.
But just crank, crank, crank, crank, crank,
nothing, not even a splutter.
So it's something, something's gone.
Anyway, as I was arranging a tow truck,
he comes back.
He said, I think it's this module thing.
And he found a spare one in the workshop.
Plugged in the module form.
She's back to life.
Followed him.
I mean, one of those workshop.
And I sort of got out of that, you know, quite nicely.
So I was like, oh, well, I just add a module to the bill.
And I'll get an Uber back home and we'll pretend that never
happened.
Was that a fuel pump module?
No.
When you're looking at the engine bay,
there are a few pumps.
He checked the pumps.
They were, they were pumping there down the back behind the
rear wheel arch.
It was this little silver box that's on the passenger side
of the engine bay.
And my friend said, oh, it might be a,
like an amplifier for the spark or something like that.
But that was obviously whatever internal
and that's just gone boom fritz.
He said that he has those rebuilt, you know,
or you can have them rebuilt.
So he's going to send that off and get it,
get it rebuilt.
And then at least I know it's sort of good.
Yeah.
So that's the big girl.
But once I, once I get that back,
I'll be far on the other thing it's in for is it developed
a noisy lifter, we think.
And that's, it's quite bad.
Like when it's running that driver's side cylinder bank
is, you know, you can really hear it.
So he said, I'll sort that out either with a new one
or a good second handy and hopefully home down to where
it is.
So look, it'll be in there for a bit of surgery.
But once she's out gentlemen,
I will be driving that more.
Hmm.
Beacuse.
I do quite like, well, you drive it.
It drives beautifully.
And it was really nice.
And it wasn't making the lifter noise back then.
So that's a new development.
But I'm confident that he can sort it out.
They are known for being a bit noisy in the lifter
occasionally.
So I'm, I'm sort of, um, yeah, I'm okay with it.
Uh, service month has begun the MX fives in getting new rear
brake pads and just oil filter coolant brake fluid
every couple of years.
I've, I'm sort of on the brake fluid year now.
So just give that a flush and keep it nice and fresh in it.
Hmm.
Uh, the 300 coupe is with me.
That'll go in next.
That has an oil leak from somewhere.
So I'll get that maybe investigated.
You know, we'll just churn through them all.
Hmm.
One by one.
It is service month.
It is service month.
Then doesn't my bank account love service?
That's me.
It's good to know.
Oh, over to me.
Nothing really to do with actual cars, but I did make a stop
off at BW, um, my area and got some new Hot Wheels cars
that just come out.
Um, I've got them up behind me.
I've got an EVO nine.
Woo.
A mark three Supra.
Uh, the BMW M five.
And a things that CL pay 63 AMG.
You've done very well, Scotty.
Yeah.
So I grabbed those.
That's fantastic.
We all like a model car.
You're the Mitsubishi EVO.
Yep.
And I got the, uh, Mark three Supra.
And, um, BMW M five and CLK 63 AMG.
Hmm.
Then I, cause I had a one year old birthday and I forgot
to grab a birthday card.
I grabbed the present and I thought it's birthday card
to go with it.
So I had to go out again.
This time I went to target instead.
And I'll pick something again for myself.
Oh, this is the Hot Wheels Silver Series box.
And kind of see inside it.
It's hard to see because the light kind of blocks everything.
What's in there, Scott?
Um, we get a 1982 Toyota Supra.
So the one before the Mark threes.
I like you.
I think I really like the way they look.
They look so cool.
Yeah.
It's got a 1991 Mazda MX five.
That's a bit of it.
That's a bit of it.
It's got a Nissan Skyline 2000 GTX.
It's a bit of you, Scotty.
It's got a Honda Civic SI.
It's a bit of Jim.
And it's got an 01 Acura Integra GSR.
Yeah.
And a 71 Datsun 510.
Yeah.
I'll take that one.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
That one gets nothing.
That one gets nothing.
That's a cool little, little set.
That's a great box.
That was just a set like that.
I don't think it was too much.
Maybe 20 bucks.
It's not bad.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Cheap.
Playing with real cars.
Just do that.
Oh, by a mile.
I'll bet your V8 module wasn't that cheap.
I don't know how much it is.
How's it got the fill?
Parts, call out fee.
I know.
Call out fee.
Yeah, true.
Forget about that.
Uber.
He won't charge me for a call out fee.
I'll make sure he charges you for the call out fee.
I'll give you a close look at these ones.
These were the premium ones.
Now, I can't remember if I already had this one or not,
but I like it.
They're really nice.
They've got a lot more detail on those.
They look really good.
Yeah.
So that's the CRK63 Black Series.
Oh, yeah.
Jeremy Clarkson had one of those.
Yeah.
He loved it.
There's mine in five.
39.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah.
Do you like any 39 and five?
And then the Supra comes in beautiful red.
Oh, nice color.
Has anyone ever done a bug in that model with a broadcast?
Oh, that's nice.
No, I don't think there is a Magna model.
There might be like a B300 from Japan, possibly.
Yeah.
I'd say that would be probably one.
I reckon Tomica might have one because they just do weird,
interesting cars.
They do.
I've seen previously the Gen 2 Magnus as a Diamante in like a,
not a 118, but just 124, I think.
Yeah.
The Gen 3s, there's a few here, die-casts, not many.
But yeah, I don't think any first gen.
I haven't seen a first gen one ever.
Never.
Never.
But never.
But no, Scotty, I think you've had a nice little hole there.
Yeah.
It's been a while since I've been out really looking.
I mean, I don't really go out.
I don't really go out and look or anything.
So I'm not really a massive shopping bust because I was already out there.
I thought, you know what?
I'm already in that section, the toy section.
Yeah.
So I thought I'd move down a couple rows and see what hot wheels they have.
Scotty, you do what I do.
Oh, it's for my nephew.
I'm looking for my nephew.
Yeah.
You know, it was funny though.
So the second time when I went to Target.
I had a one-year-old birthday card and it's got a unicorn.
It's all pink and everything for her.
Can you buy hot wheels?
And I've got wrapping paper as well, which is all pretty and pink and stuff.
And then I rock up with that as well.
They were like, what is going on there?
I absolutely love that.
I think that's, you know, yeah, that's the one.
Yeah, the 143.
I think you need that.
It's the same color as your color.
Yeah, I mean, do you want to show that on the camera?
Yeah, we'll do.
Second gen?
It's enough.
Yeah, that's nice.
Close enough to yours, Chad.
And then just color the bumpers.
Oh, no, it's already that color.
It's already that color.
You ready to go?
Yeah, color in the fog lights because they're color the side mirrors black.
Make sure it's got a clock.
Yeah, make sure it's good.
No, it's really cool, Scotty.
I was going to say it was for my little nephew, Jimmy, who didn't exist,
but I wonder what I would buy them.
But anyway, moving on.
We are also joined by Rob Zadai.
How are you, Rob?
Well, thank you.
How are we all?
Hi, Rob.
Good to meet you.
You know, Jim's got a really big update,
but we'll get to his shortly.
You know, the big one, we can keep the last.
Rob, updates with you?
What's happening with your cars?
I'm really concerned.
I see Chad's cars being worked on, but mine isn't.
We don't like that.
Rob, you were there first.
Two years and I still haven't got my car worked on yet.
You were there first, Rob?
You would think so, yeah.
Okay.
I was actually there before the guy was actually.
This conversation has taken a little bit of a turn.
Chad is a bit awkward.
Yay.
So, Jim, how about that big update?
Tell us, Jim.
So, with the small things first,
Cyril, my KB laser got towed to the mechanic today to see
if he is a candidate for club plates
or if I'm going to sort of just get rid of him
and go on with my other projects.
Second thing was that on Sunday,
caught up with my AJ to go to Sand Down Historics.
Fortunately, the weather actually was all right
while we were there.
But it wasn't as bad as it had been on Saturday or today.
It was nice in the sun, Jim.
I got sunburned surprisingly.
Yeah.
I think I did a little bit too, actually.
Yeah, it was actually quite good.
It was weird.
Yeah.
They had 100th anniversary of Ford in Australia as well,
so they had a few decent things on display there and stuff.
But yeah, that was really quite enjoyable.
And then on the way home from that,
as I was passing Phillip Island Circuit,
I clocked $500,000 in my car.
Woo!
Pressure.
Oh, yeah.
Big milestone.
Happy 500th.
Thank you.
What was on that car when you bought it, Jim?
So I bought it January 13th, 2019, with $193,000.
Oh, my God!
Whoa.
It was just like $100,000.
How many?
$193,000 and $365,000.
Yeah.
$193,000.
Okay.
So, yeah.
I mean, that wasn't a super low mile or even...
No.
$320,000.
Yeah.
So what was funny was after I took a picture of it,
the next day on Facebook, I got like, you know,
that sort of reminder, two years ago,
I hit $400,000 in the same day.
Oh, my God.
$100,000 in two years down to the day,
which I thought was quite well timed.
That's impressive.
That's very good.
How many tanks of fuel are you putting in that a week?
Two to two and a half at the moment.
So, yeah, it's a lot.
And I only go to one particular petrol station.
Sorry, it's not one particular brand,
but usually preferably only one particular petrol station,
one particular petrol pump.
The lady there said to me one time,
why don't you come in and then go all the way around?
And then I said, I do realise how weird it looks,
but for some reason, and I don't know why,
I always get longer range out of that petrol pump
that I do out of basically any other.
And she was like, okay, you do whatever.
And I don't usually use the points and stuff,
but she's like, oh, you use them eventually.
And I said to her, yeah,
I'll wait until I'm really broke
and they'll use all the points.
And then you can just take a few.
So, Chad, this car,
so have you become quite good friends
with the people at the servo?
Is my next question.
Yeah, well, one of the people there,
I went to school with her son,
so that helps, but the other ones,
it's like, oh, yes, it's you again.
That's quite funny.
What was actually quite good was
when I had to go to a different one,
and one of those really big ones on the highway,
and the person said to me,
instead of going, what number are you?
She said the EK, and I'm like, yes,
but also how did you know?
And she goes, I used to have one.
So that was good.
So, but no, I think it's a decent amount.
It would have been higher,
but we had COVID, of course.
So that's down.
Put a dampener on your mileage, that damp.
It really, really did.
We really should be at 750 by now, boys.
Yeah.
It was very hard going from like 1,000 Ks a week to five.
I did not know what to do with myself.
But yeah, no, it's good.
And I've kind of,
I've ordered some,
my aunt would call it nerdy merch for Classic Japan.
Yeah, nerdy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, but I just, you know,
every time that she, and also when I mentioned
the milestone people at work,
a few were nice, but most important was kind of weird,
including my aunt.
So I just call her Kluge Mum now,
and she doesn't know what to say in response.
So it's all much better.
Yeah.
So we'll make sure that he's detailed and looking good
for that event too.
And yeah, by then it should be, you know,
503, I think, something.
So, yeah.
I should really give you some of my cars, Jim,
to cycle through because they are the opposite.
They don't get driven enough.
I won't say no to being like a...
I mean, once a week.
Once a month just to cycle through one day.
And you'd be like, what's the word?
Not a shit.
It's not the right...
It's a bug walker, but for cars.
Yeah.
You mean a car driver?
Yeah.
You know?
There's a word I'm trying to think of.
It's like the caretaker.
Caretaker.
Yeah.
The car-taker, car-taker.
Really nice job, man.
It was a good old car-taker.
Yeah, automotive chaperone.
Jim, I have a question.
How do you get by...
What do you listen to?
What do you do with all those kilometres?
How do you get through it?
So, this podcast.
And I also go, God, I sound terrible.
But anyway, it's good to hear back things.
And also actually, when you hear it back,
it sounds different when you're actually on it as well sometimes.
Yeah.
But then also, I'm a little bit of a...
I do like politics and like today's 50th anniversary
of Goff Whitlam's dismissal.
So I find that interesting.
My really daggy music taste as well.
And then just generally complain about other Honda drivers.
I do feel as though owning five.
I can wind about other Honda drivers completely guilt-free.
Thank you.
You've earned your colours for that.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And you know, people go,
oh, you shouldn't say that.
And I go, I literally own five, like relax.
But yeah.
And of course, trying to avoid all Victoria's potholes
on your trucks.
Ranger drivers.
Yeah, ranger drivers.
Yeah, pretty horrendous.
Sorry.
Yeah.
And also people who seem to not know what a brake pedal is
when they're approaching intersection as well.
But that's always good.
So yeah, it's, yeah, it's interesting.
I, as I have said to many and a few people,
I have promised myself when I get to a million Ks,
I am manual swapping my car because I'm sick to death of a CVT.
Yeah.
About half a million manual, half a million auto.
Yeah.
Sort of a, you know.
That's a good, that's fair.
I'm about that, Chad.
I'm about that.
You probably pick one up for 50 bucks.
Yeah.
Probably.
Probably.
I just want to say, Jim, I commend you on,
on surviving a CVT for 320,000 kilometers.
Really?
Although the good thing is so in a way,
and I don't mean this in a disparaging way,
but getting into like first gen magnets with carburetors
and stuff.
And for most people, you know,
it's got to change in acceleration times.
Whereas to me, it was quite familiar.
Yeah.
What year was the Civic, Jim?
98.
98 CVT technology is the same as a four speed auto
from the late 80s.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Although, although I will say,
I cannot handle the pretend steps in modern CVTs
because at least money isn't pretentious.
It doesn't pretend it's an automatic.
It's just, it's better to have it just one sad gear
instead.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And you have to, you have to plan every manoeuvre
like there's a hill.
Okay.
Accelerate now.
Build it up.
Oh yeah.
We've made it.
Good.
As opposed to things breaking in front of me.
Now I'm stuffed.
Okay.
So Jim, in other words,
no amount of VTEC that car has will help you with,
when the car would just sit at constantly at 8,500 RPM.
Pretty much.
Like, and also true, I think because it is quite,
it's done quite a bit of driving now is that
it needs to be prodded quite a bit before it's like,
oh, you've got to actually do something.
So that's always fun too.
I am used to it now, but ordering you,
definitely would have gone with the manual.
Although I guess one of the small things I can sort of say
to people is, like to other EK owners is,
well, mine came from factory with a centre console
and the cup holders.
I didn't have to have mine 3D printed.
That is also true.
That is very true.
And I guess, you know, like new cars are expensive,
but when I looked it up,
my car would have cost $60,000 in today's money.
Jesus Christ.
It was the same price as a V6 Camry Auto
and a manual T e Sports V6 Magna, I think.
What the hell?
It was expensive.
Yeah.
I don't really understand why you would have picked it
and also true because like,
I'm like visually they look exactly the same
as the base model.
So I don't get why you would have picked it.
No, it's because Nana's bought Hondas
because they were reliable.
That's that's pretty much the reason.
She can't possibly have anything else.
I know.
I have to get this.
Now also classier than the average Japanese car,
Honda always had that, you know,
that cachet to them.
So it was quite acceptable for, you know,
to have a second car as a Honda.
You know, even the main car was a Benz or a Beamer.
You know, you often saw that, you know,
husband usually would be driving the big Euro.
Wife would have the smaller Civic or Integra or Accord.
Prelude was.
Prelude.
Yeah.
It was quite, it was quite acceptable.
You know, it wasn't,
they were snobby enough to get that,
which is nuts.
But, but yeah, they weren't cheap.
You know, when a Corolla was like, you know,
14 or something, a Civic was 19 or 20.
Like it was, it was always at premium price point.
Yeah.
I did also check.
I mean, while I think there's a few years,
maybe you have discrepancy, I think,
cost significantly more than an SR2 laser as well.
Everything costs more than an SR2 laser chip.
But yeah, it's an interesting choice.
Although when you did say, you know,
like bought by like a Nanna,
Thurus owner was a woman,
and by the name probably wasn't a particularly young woman
either.
There's a name like when or Prudence or something.
Margaret.
I can't remember, but there's something like that.
And I have looked up the original address,
and it's like one of those sort of suburbs as well.
Yeah.
So yeah.
She had it for five years.
And then the father of a Honda car club member
bought it in 2003.
So it's been in the Honda car club now for 22 years.
So.
So Jim, in other words,
Civic going okay.
It's hit the milestone.
Happy days.
Yes.
Yes.
That's again, Jim.
Congrats again.
It's a big milestone.
We're going to get the laser into,
to get to that level.
Well, actually, I think it was quite a good year
because of course, like, you'll have to hit 350.
Rebelsworth's Camry hit 400.
So, you know,
cutting things off with a third thing
is kind of the finish of the year.
Goes in threes, mate.
Do we just need to start up a high mile car club?
I think we should.
No taxis allowed though.
No taxis allowed.
No.
So Jim, what was the souvenir that you bought?
So I have ordered some,
I've got some type R socks.
I'm having a t-shirt custom made.
I tried ordering shoes.
I actually got scammed on those.
That's my own fault.
Oh my God.
I also have a Honda Civic teddy bear.
Okay.
I've got a Honda magazine from when the EK was launched.
That's cool.
So I'm going to like try and prop it up.
So in the car, he's seen like reading the book.
Bit daggy, but I don't care.
Yeah.
You don't have to like it.
I do.
That's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
Now, Rob, we did Ragon Ranger drivers,
but are you still driving a Ranger currently?
Welcome back, Rob.
Thank you very much.
Now, I had to go and pick up my transit.
They replaced the steering rack and they said,
they're not going to do anything with the diff.
So it is what it is.
So I'm stuck with the van.
I thought they were buying it back.
That's what I fought to.
And that's what she alluded to.
And then Bayford said, no, it's fine.
It's normal.
We've replaced the diff twice and it's still noisy.
Not as noisy as it originally was, but it's still noisy.
And they're not going to do anything about it.
Is it within the spec, as they would say?
Apparently.
But what are you going to do now, Rob?
Well, I just want to figure out.
I'm just going to fit it out to the bare minimum.
I'm not going to do any sort of major sort of structural work
to it, but I'll put in a bed, cabin,
joinery, you know, a bit of a stove and a battery setup.
And I'll drive it until it stops.
You are going to drive it.
Well, there's not much I can do about it.
Well, you can always drive it through the diff.
Why don't you sell it?
Yeah.
To say my diff lost control and I smashed into a dealership.
I think in America, it was like a Subaru.
It was a dispute so angry.
I think the dispute was only over like two grand or something
and he drove it through the dealership.
I actually went just up the cable for the weekend
trial bike riding and when I came back,
I went to touch a diff and a diff was pretty hot.
So I need to work out exactly because they're supposed to run
between 100 and 20 and 170 Fahrenheit at that sort of maximum.
So I need to maybe run a proper thermo type gauge on it
to see what it's actually running at,
to see how hot it's running.
It is running hot.
I think hotter than normal.
Maybe run it up and down some very steep hills.
Maybe hot enough.
Just wait for it to seize up.
But if that replaced bearings on it after it replaced the diff,
something seriously has gone wrong with the bearings beforehand.
Obviously, they've changed the diff but put the drive shaft
or axles back in with the old bearings
when they shouldn't have.
Then they replaced the bearings on it
and they did put new steering rack in it
because the steering was squeaky.
So it's just one thing after another.
It's a comedy of, I don't know, replacements really.
But we'll see what happens.
I'll just drive it.
I put the wall back up so I wouldn't hear the noise
and it isn't as loud,
but you can still hear it at a certain...
When you decelerate between 90 and 80 kilometers an hour,
you can actually hear it whining as you let off the throttle.
I think you need to loan this van to Jim
for a month maybe.
Jim, do you want to drive it a little bit up and down some hills?
Yeah.
Yeah, and there's a nice round the way back to Warrigal
that's very all over the place
and like it's, you know, a lot of decelerating,
decelerating up from CBN clients and stuff just to make it...
That's going to sort it out quicker than anything.
We'll go up to Eric and Rawson.
Sort it out.
We'll go back up through Warrigal there.
I mean, Chad Allen and I are happy to do some stands still, isn't it?
That'll give the difficult work out.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we'll get the back bouncing,
just like really load it up.
I'm sure when they load up the actual stats on the ECU,
they'll see what's actually been happening to it.
See you online.
Great supply whilst accelerating.
I think there's been a few people now
who have had the warranty claim afforded
because, you know, they've said, oh, well, your computer says
that you were, you know, driving it inappropriately.
Oh, geez.
I think there's some of the first people to do that with the GTR,
with launch control.
If you launched it more than three times or something under warranty,
they would not warrant your transmission.
That's wild.
That was early on when they first came out
because the transmission wasn't that great.
Couldn't handle it.
But then by series two, and that was fine, you could launch it.
Yeah.
Quite funny, though.
I don't laugh.
Yep.
So the van's just going to be fitted out,
not as elaborate as I initially wanted to.
And I'll use it.
Oh, I'll take it around a country and drive it into a dealership
and leave it in the dealership if it breaks down
and hire another car and go home.
He'll drive it into the dealership.
Yeah.
At that point.
At that point, I don't care if it's grinding into a dealership
to tear the truth.
Find the most remote for dealership there is
and just be like, hey, you know,
I've drift driven all the way from Melbourne
and just got a weird sound.
What's going on?
Ruin or something like that.
That's a gory thing.
And they take a ship back home.
And I'll take the dirt road all the way up there, too.
Yeah.
Just make it as dirty as possible.
But it's unbelievable.
Let them try to clean it up before they look out
it.
I mean, there's going to be another lawsuit.
I wouldn't be happy, Rob.
I've done a bit of research on it.
And there is a recall worldwide
for those four transits made in Europe.
Mm-hmm.
They haven't been topping it up with enough oil.
Jeez.
So we're coming out of that.
Is that a diff recall?
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That happened with the early Ranger Raptors, too.
They weren't putting enough oil in the diff.
Yeah.
And they were blowing diffs out the front and center.
So...
I think.
Annoyed.
Matt, have we done your updates?
No, but there's really nothing much on my updates.
Yeah, not much at all.
I think we can...
I'll just remember something.
I'm going to have a quick flex.
Okay.
So there is some kind of race event on Monday
at Sand and Raceway.
Mm-hmm.
And one of our vendors, ZF.
Isn't ZF like in the transmission?
Yes.
Yeah.
They've offered one of us a free ride on their track car.
Oh, geez.
That's sick.
And your boy's going.
Oh, well, that's actually really cool.
On Monday?
Yes.
There's like a private event or something?
I believe so.
Yeah, weird.
There was another event happening tomorrow at Colder Park, I think.
One of our other vendors, Multispares, they've got their race car.
And I think two of our people are going there.
Oh.
That was drawn out of...
This one just got offered to me.
So I'm like, you know what?
I'll take it.
Apparently because it's a work day, it counts as a work day.
Tomorrow?
Just let me know because I'm just around a corner from Colder Park.
All right.
No stress at all, Rob.
I'll let you know.
I'll let you know.
That is a cool place.
I'll hopefully be filling everyone in on next Tuesday.
I'm keen to hear about it.
That'll be fun.
I think we've covered everything.
I have done some car related things actually.
I've made my posters for Ed Matthews Toyota.
I hope you afterwards about that.
I made some calls on that.
Cool.
We'll talk about that later.
But we'll have some more information about Ed Matthews Toyota coming very shortly.
Chad's just like, what the hell are you guys talking about?
I don't remember this from the last, the other week.
So it's Classic Japan?
Classic Japan.
Yeah.
So it'll be a bit of fun.
I've got one shocking bit of news.
I went to Vic Rhodes to get the club plates for the big girl.
She was very helpful, very friendly lady.
Number one, tick.
You know, I was like, most, most are not.
That's not the shocking part of it.
My license photo.
My current license photo was taken by the worst one at that Vic Rhodes.
And I think she did it deliberately.
She's made it look pasty.
I'd say my glasses off.
I look like Uncle Fester from the Adams family.
Can we go to look?
Hang on.
I'll go to the other room one sec.
Uncle Fester.
Actually, they're all privatised now, aren't they?
Vic Rhodes?
They're part of...
Really?
Yeah, yeah, they are.
I think they got sold off a couple of years ago.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, partly privatised because they were trying to re-introduce the brand new operating
system and they kind of just mucked up completely and it was very expensive.
So rather than signing off again from scratch, I think they're part privatised.
I've got the licence, but the reason I liked the good one from the other day, the nice lady,
was I said, oh, 45 days, yeah, club permit, blah, blah.
And she went off to get the plates and she was gone a little while and she came back
and I'm always...
You're always keen to see what plate you're going to get, right?
And she goes, oh, do you want slimline or the standard?
And I thought, oh, can you do slimline club regio plates?
They do them, yeah, yeah.
You can.
But I said no, no standard because that car's got the standard plate frames and everything
like that.
It's no point going slim.
So she comes back and it's like two, three, three, something, something, eight, four at
the end and it's an 84.
Oh, there you go.
I said, oh, you've done well on the plates.
She said, oh, I dug a bit deeper just to get 84 for you.
Even asking.
And I'm like, that's very nice.
Give her a raise.
I'm going to say Ray at Heatherton Vic Rhodes, the best.
Big shout out to you.
That's five stars from me.
They are cool.
Now, the other one who I don't like there, I don't know her name, but she did this
photograph.
Oh, yeah.
That's horrific.
That looks awesome.
That is brutal.
I look like Uncle Fest.
I look like a dead body.
Look how.
And you know, the other thing, I got a 10 year license.
That photo is, um, guaranteed to be on the news about something.
Not around, not allowed around schools anymore.
I hope that I'm a strange man and in a Southeast look like that in real
life.
Cause if that's the case, I'm not at all.
Yeah.
Please.
Please.
Show me that I don't.
That being said, it don't take glasses off.
But it's not only the glasses off.
It's like, you know, you take a glass of this.
It was the pastiness.
It was the pastiness.
Clark Kent.
You look like Lex Luffa.
Anyway,
that's the episode of it.
It's not good.
It's not good.
I got another 10 years of that.
When did you get this one?
That was a recent I like three weeks ago.
I got the worst lady at that big growth can she had it in for me and she knew I didn't like it and that's why she's done that
Can you go back like like put some fake dog? I'll give you some little tan or something. Just cover your face
Like I've got a bit of colors a bit of color there. It's just her stupid photo
Can you also do it like a toupee as well? Like
Yeah, just like this photo is only like this licenses a year old mate or six months old happens quickly
It's happens quick. I don't even got a new one
Let it grow out. Yeah, anyway
It'll get you. I'm sorry about that. What do I do?
Where's the last license for that was actually alright?
Yeah, I mean that was another 10 years before so, you know, did you have glasses off on that one as well? I
Think so
I think they make you take them off because of that reflection, you know, they don't
take them off
There you go
Let's move on to something more positive more positive which is tonight's topic
Which is what cars have just stayed at a price point like, you know, they've just
No, in terms of like on the second hand
They never got cheaper like that. They kind of hit a point and but but they never went up either
So like they kind of just got to a point and we're like, yeah, this is kind of where they are
I remember in high school for example like
EP3 civics and well it will EP3's are a really good example
They were like 23 grand. They are still, you know a long time later 23 grand like
It kind of makes no sense
So I want to kind of discuss that and why you think that isn't and for certain what what cars are but
What car well first of all, we'll start off with what cars have kind of stayed at a price point
I started with the EP3 also, I think DC5 integrates have just been always 25 grand
What question is how cheap did
S2000s get you got too bad. The cheapest one I ever saw for sale was 18 grand
17 my friend bought one for 17. Oh, that's a hell of a buy. That's a stunning car for other money
That's sort of what they're worth back then. Yeah
Yeah, I'll tell you a car that hasn't moved in the last 48 million years morris miners
they're always like
four five
Six really that's it
Even like a re like a
An exceptional one. Oh like some of the just talking in general like some of the travelers or the convertibles might go a bit high
But you you're general morris miner is just there
I would I would argue against that kid. I've been looking really
I think in the last like for a long time they were that but the last five years have gone quite vertical
Well, even like rough ones are like seven
That's what I said four five six seven for a rough one. No for a rough one. No
Yes, and like low lights are ridiculous
So going online right now
So you've driven me to eat chocolate on the show by the way. I haven't heard a breast about my life
You're the one that keeps taking the glasses off
I made me come over there. All right, so hang on. So let's
We'll get a t-shirt with that
No, just an end space with the glasses
So let's cover some cars that haven't really changed in in the in the last in the last while
Um, or haven't changed at all. It's you know, I think I think the civic type are the ep3 and the um, the
DC fives they've kind of always been there
What else kind of just stayed around like similar money like we had the conversation last week that the
Evo nine wagon as well
There's always stayed in the 40s pretty much 40 45. Yep. I've never seen it go up and never seen it go down
Yeah, it's it's one of those cars that just kind of you know, it's like
I
You see you buy for 40 and you sell it for 40 like it's in five years time
Like you won't lose money on that car. There's about k's you put on it and everything
Which is odd considering everything else Japanese
Around that era has like shot up and skyrocketed
Well for ages mark for super non turbos would the people at a special and they were always 20 grand
You could
Thrush it for four years on your peas sell it for 20 grand now like after covid that that's long gone
But evo's on the other hand which which you know, let's be honest on evo wagons
I think a more special car than a than a mark for super in terms of its rarity and in terms of its
You know what it can do and you know, it's it's pretty much a truck car ready to go
um
You know, it's stayed at 40 grand
So
So, yeah, it's that that's another that's a good one. That's got it. That's a really good one
Some Porsches have been like that haven't they nine for fours have kind of just stayed around
98 have been the same price for a long time
I mean Jim and I were talking about 98 the other the other day
They've they've just kind of haven't moved like like they're a very unloved car
Boxes first gen boxers first gen boxes. Yeah, they're they're the same. They've been 20 grand for you know, yeah
A lot depends on the spec you got. Yeah, that's kind of dictates the
World where it moves to yeah, pretty much. Yeah, that's it. You know cheap way into a Porsche Scotty
It's it's like you don't know if you're driving forwards or if you're driving backwards
They look the same from the front looks the same from the read
I'd like the Suzuki X 90 X 90
Ah, it's just you know, it's
People that buy those couldn't afford the real Porsche
Oh, some of some they're they're finding words Scotty. They're finding words
Yeah, I mean
99 were just so
inconceivably expensive. Yeah
sometimes
I've found myself looking for boxers
968 boxers manual
you know just
Try and get into something that's that fun. I'll put caviar on it. The manuals
Do command a bit more. Yeah, they do is we're always I've seen I seen one self of 10 grand
Yeah, I mean, look, I wouldn't be or dead in one
If it's gonna be anything it has to be a manual one if yeah
It might be able to sort of um say more to it. What about the land cruisers and stuff like that some of those four drives
Hmm. Yeah
Yeah, certainly like you know a used um troopy or something. They oh, yeah
Yeah
The 50 grand worth 500 000 on it. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. No shame, Jim
You're not k-shaming
No, no, but I also think like 80 series have been
You know 10 grand for like a crap one with a billion kilometers
Yeah, but the billion kilometers and to replace head gaskets for like forever
Really led headlights
The only again the only exception I'll make to that rule. There was a series sahara with 85 000 k's
Oh, yeah, that was at 100. Yeah, it's did itself. It's sold. Yeah, they did. Oh, that's disgusting
I know
Like okay, it's location. I had I had the like I had the diesel 4.2 turbo didn't it as well
Like it had it had it was the spec like it was a but my god, that's that's okay
I mean it's upper echelon of that car maybe 50
For the best one in the world for like a collector. Oh, but a hundred
Oh, man, that's it's madness. It's it's madness. Chad. Yeah
What are some other ones that have stayed that have stayed in in like at a price? I feel like um
A base model 350 zeds and 350 gts like the skyline
I feel like they haven't really moved past the 10 grand 10 grand mark. Yeah, you can still buy a
An absolute clapped one for like six six
This is p-plated
P-plated specials p-plated special, but
Yeah, what else like rx-8s have kind of stagnated especially the first first ones
Yeah, series one and twos of the series one, I guess and
For a good probably a good reason. Yeah, but you can still pick one off a low five grown
Pretty terrible one. I could have bought one for four. That's cheap with 120,000 k
Originally, I had to be rebuilt
Jesus and he and I drove it and it drove well and everything and
In my head, like he's like, do you want to sell it? I'm like, oh, like, so he's like, do you want to buy it?
And in my head, I'm like, this is the dumbest financial decision you will ever make. This is a $10,000 like
Straight up first bill first bill. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just alice it. Just alice. Yeah, that's
You'd be half tempted that I mean engine plus conversion kit. That's less than 10 grand for that car. Yeah
Ed's like looking at us like, why would you modify them?
Oh, no, because they're unreliable
That is that is the it's a road yet for that one. No one buys a rotary, you know
You know fluffing
It's not a motor if it's not a rotor
It is a motor and it's the one that'll keep working if it's not
Oh
Mx5 models that have kind of sat
NC's have been cheap for a while and they've just kind of stayed there
And bees have gone up. Have you noticed and bees and bees go out? Yeah, but like I feel they're still
Between you say like the clappiest clap ones you can kind of get that eight to nine mark
Whereas the nicest ones if you get into like an sc
Uh, you're 18. Yeah 18 to 20
So they're within that range but they're kind of consistent in that range like you've never seen unless it's already like a shell or something
You're not gonna see a two grand one. Yeah
Um, are you there? We won no doubt put up for like 30, but no one's gonna buy for 30 as well
I think another example I've found is like stis in particular
They'll come down to about that
Low to mid 30s mark and just sit there. Yeah, no one will sell for any cheaper
The only ones that kind of go are like
The engineers are replaced or something else, but if it's like a regular running sti, that's reasonable
You're not gonna get it for much less than 30. Yeah
Like when I bought my wrx
That was about 10 and some change. They're still 10 and some change. Yeah, but they they did go down for a bit to like
Four or five at one point, but they're back to like 12 again
But the stis again when I was looking at
The wrx the stis was still that like low to mid 30s and those same stis are now low to mid 30s
They might have had that fluctuation during covid, but yeah, you'll see a couple of like spexies that are obviously imported and they're up 45
But the average stis that somebody's actually owned here in australia. They were about that name mark. Yeah
And is that for like a blow by or yeah blow by hawkeye that sort of thing
Yeah, I always found that the blow by's were more expensive than the hawkeyes just because they had the
They had they still had the two liter, right?
I think they did yeah, the hawkeye went to two point five
Yeah, and they were a bit more desirable because because of that reason
But I always thought also english cars have got like a kind of they kind of just stayed at a price like
Mgb's and stuff. They're gonna say that too. Yeah, they've been 17 to 20 grand for forever really like it's
you know
Now I want to add to that point. So this is my next question for you guys
Why do you think these cars are stayed at that point? Do you do is it because they made like a million mgb gts?
Uh, you know, or is it or is it they just not very desirable and sought after?
Is it is it perhaps that the people who want them have already got them?
Yeah, that's also and there's no like new
There's no new blood
I think it's that they made a lot of them. Um, and the people that wanted them were all sort of dying
And there's not a whole heap coming in at the bottom end
I think it's also like maybe a balance of the market
Basically, if you've got
Kind of enough people that just don't want to get rid of theirs
And just enough people trickling in to buy the ones that are available
Kind of keeps orders if there's a ton of people we're looking to buy and there's not a lot available
Price will actually go up if there's a ton of people trying to offload
But there's not a lot of people interested the price will naturally drop
When the market kind of reaches this little balance points to me. Yeah, that's where the price will settle up
But my friends and I always joke that every car's gone up except my friend
This is my friend Rob who owns the Renault 16 as well. It's like everything's gone up
You know all these classics they're more than they were except the Renault 16. It's just like
Yeah, because like the two people that want a Renault 16 have a Renault 16
Three grand or four grand or whatever they are. It's just like that. That's it
Then they're never going to be 15 or 20 like they're just never it's never going to be there
Would you apply that to other french cars in australia 2 ed?
No, because like Citroen DS, you know, they're worth a lot of money now. Yeah, really
DS is nudging 50 60k
I was being like, I think Peugeot 203 is 403 is that sort of thing
Yeah, I mean the Peugeot 504s are still pretty cheap, you know, they're like six seven 10 12
You know, they haven't really gone insane
Well, uh, two or fives are pricey these days like fives are but they're a you know a bit of a specialist hot hatch
The 50 v's have certainly gone up, you know a good two cv's worth some money now and what's a good two cv worth like 20
25 30 for it
It's a tinge head. Yeah. Yeah
With a bent seat with a bent seat
I think those real quirky french stuff, but the more average sudanian normal french stuff
No, it's just just sits sits at the bottom of the pond
Do you think they're the least appreciative of all the european cars?
Probably
I mean, I don't know an old scota might be worse. I was like, no, yeah, probably
Is there a is there a bends you can name it that's been a bit sort of consistent with its pricing over the years
Or if they also have to have their day and come and go
There's some wild variations in bends
It's like you'll get a w123 is an interesting case in point, you know, you'll get a one to
1500 bucks or two and a half or something for a pretty
Munted one and you get another one for 30, you know, or 35 for a wagon in a cool color
That's like done 120,000 k. So there's there's huge variants in in one two threes like I
I sold that 230 I had for 15 a couple of years back
But that car could easily have sort of been seven, you know, half half that price
You know if it was a real corporate might have been 20, but
Yeah, it's it's funny. There's just such a such a variance on based on condition and case because there's a lot out there that it just average
That that should be the same for all cars though
I don't know. It seems to be a lot to work. Yeah
It seems to be a wild variance on those things
Yeah, a low kilometer bends will always nearly always be a pull of premium
And even if it's like a 180 like a really undesirable
iOS
Someone will list it because it looks, you know, real nice and shiny
They'll ask 12 grand or whatever or like 15
Yeah, and like it's a 180. It's like the worst one they ever made the best of it a good one. Yeah, it's terrible
Yeah, but yeah, and then I feel like I mean maybe doesn't
uh, it doesn't maybe
Apply to like one two sixes in the
Oh
Because
Look at look at uh, you know, you can go and buy one two six for three grand four grand
You know, they're not a lot of money
But they need stuff, you know, there is a beautiful caulk of a one two six with 100,000 k is
20 grand 25 grand. So yeah, that's a good point big difference in you know
And look speck plays a part in it like if you had a 560 se l in a cool color with stupid locays or whatever
Okay, that's gonna be your big ticket car, you know, whereas if you've got a 300 six cylinder se
Um short wheelbase shit color shit k shit condition, you know, that's that's your three grand or four grand
So yeah, I guess the later model bends is it it does like after 2000 onwards
They start to stagnate a bit more like you can buy an s 320
for
Five six grand
Yeah all day pretty much
Maybe there'll be a couple of ones that are like have a
Have a bigger price tag because they can't condition but more special bmw's are more the same
I guess like it's very condition and kilometer based
It is yeah, you know an out-of-the-box car now. I mean these cars are 40 years old now like a
And people drove
Benzes
More than beamers and jags and like benzes did case in a way that some of the beamers and jags and and other marks didn't
so
A low mileage bends is a rare
Thing and people know that the quality of that era was so good. So it's really really is a very good car to buy
a low mileage in but
Yeah, I mean rob e 30s were nothing for for so long
And you you paid bug a rule for yours and that's you're sitting on a 20 20 grand car pass plus now
I'll say around here around a 20 20 k car. Yeah, but um, but that was like a $2,000 car
I paid for
Yeah, like just just 10 x your money. Yeah, well literally even when I bought it. I go juice. I'm getting this for a bargain
Absolute bargain. I thought it was like an eight or 10 k car back then
well
Even if it was that still doubled your money, which is a huge margin
100% and a guy races them too. Like he knows them backwards and um, yet he still was happy to let it go
He called me
That's right. Yeah
Yeah, it's just uh, look, I think he
Didn't mind selling it to me because he knew I was going to sort of take care of it and do it
Up and look after it rather than strip it down and do stupid things to it
Hmm
I think well
I think the Hondas that I mentioned earlier that have stayed the same price for so long is because
They're kind of like an accessible fast p-platica
But my question to you now is because the one they're they're getting quite old like an ep3's, you know pushing
25 years now. Yeah
DC5 the same
Yeah, you know how about on club rage soon? Well, yeah, but but also
Did like, you know, not all of them survive p-platers
Um, and when they do they've they've been they've had a hard lives
The survival rate on them is diminishing, but even then even that said, you know, they will get by him when I was in
I was in high school and they're still the same price now
Do you think that because there's just so much more powerful stuff that they could that these kids can access
They're going to they're going to drop in price or possibly go up in price
It's hard to say with a car like that because like especially with the market these days again
Oh, well, my mom's Tesla can beat this. There's all brought you know, yeah
So, you know
High-revving Civic
I really feel is generational based with the pricing and you know, you'll see, you know, some of the older cars
Now starting to drop in price that people just don't want but they're not sought after
And it'll go with that sort of generation when they sort of grew up the car
They grew up with as a kid in the dad trove or something like that that sort of gives them that's
connection to the car
And you look at all the stuff that's like like old old to us, you know, 1920s 1930s 1940s
That's all just stagnant. Like there's not, you know, no one who's 20 now goes. I wanted 1928 hopmobile
You know, like they're not they're never gonna say that so
Those cars are just it's not that they're worth nothing
But they're they're just bubbling along, you know, selling that stuff would be hard
What are with the with your p76 rub like like I don't even know what a p76 is worth
Well that they vary
Quite a bit and depending upon condition gain anything up to 30 grand
You know, okay, 76, um, but I would say more say around a 10k mark. Okay. Yeah
and
And have they been always been around that money for a long time?
No, I've got people giving them away like Magnus. Yeah
Like Magnus
Yeah, well, yeah, take it just take it
That's how I accumulated about at one stage you had about 16 of them
Just accumulated p76's far out
Crazy and I'll yeah, I'll drive down the road of my land and I'll pull me up
Okay. Hey, I've got one at my front yard come and pick it up
Get it out
That's what it was like. Yeah back in the sort of 90s 80s and 90s
And um, yeah, I accumulated a lot of v8s for nothing. I'll give them to me. I just take them home and some of them I drove home
That's great
You know, so I can't complain about that. Well, you got spare parts to last you the rest of rest of time
I've still got four v8s
Well three v8s plus my car hanging around two chargers and another super v8
Cheese. So yeah, but then just rusted away. I didn't have the space or
Anywhere to put them under cover and they've been sitting outside for 40 years. Yeah
You know, I've had immaculate shells rusted away to nothing
Just sitting there stripped right down and you think um, they won't hold the water and won't rust
They'll actually dip through, you know rust inhibited baths and all sorts of things and they still rusted
You know
It's just like that they they held because everything was spot welded
They held water in certain parts of the panels and you just started rusting from inside out
In certain areas if you left them outside you couldn't leave them outside in the weather
But look they've done no worse than any of the cars built in that in that era
No worse if anything, they'll probably better
Hmm
When are we going to see yours at a car show rob your your original car?
probably um
Not for a long time unless I do it myself because my spray paint is not going to be doing it even though i've
Another dick and shout here we go
Yeah, he um, I can't rely on him and I got
Stitched up by another spray painter who um, sprayed it
Took all the rust out and and sprayed it with high fuel
Paid him several thousand dollars and it wasn't even ready to paint
You know, so I just just and I feel like if I do it myself, I'm gonna boss it up
Um, I won't get the job that I want on it
It's it's a it's a tough sort of thing. I want it to be half decent
But yeah, it's I don't think it's gonna happen in the near future. I think I'll probably end up selling it
Oh, no, that's your first car
Yeah, no, no, you're not selling it. My son will probably end up selling it when I pass
Do we need to have a working bee or something on that? I was just thinking
Yes, get some hands on it
That might sort of work. Um, what I need to do is pull it out of the the back garage and get it down to do
the actual workshop
and
Start working on it down at the workshop. Let's do that. Let's have a weekend. Let's do that. Yeah
Yeah, so yeah, definitely. Um, that that'd be an option to do
I'm motivated. I'm motivated
about it
We're gonna we spoke about this a while ago
And you're like, yeah, I'll get it out of the shed and we get started on it. Yeah
didn't happen
No, it's gotta happen, but um, it's been sitting there for 20 years now
20 20 years. Yeah. Oh, let's go. Let's go. Are the bones still good?
Yeah, the bones are still good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's it's it's been sitting under cover in a garage for
A high fill. Well, that's the best, um
Place for best place for it and best survival chance. Well, exactly. So it hasn't
Rusted in in that time
It's got a bit of surface rust in certain areas where they didn't do a very good job with the high fill
But it's only surface rust at this particular point
Yeah, okay
Drive again in your lifetime. Absolutely. That would be, um, awesome to see it might make me cry, but yeah
Let's let's do it
Cars that have got blockages. I've got a blockage with the Renault. Yeah
But uh, it's definitely um, something that'd be nice to see on the road again
Christmas holidays. Let's all go there in the Christmas holidays. Let's just get it out. Let's get it out of the
Get it down the front. Yeah
What's the first step that needs to be done? Is it some sanding?
Yeah, some sanding high fill blocking back and then paint
Okay, well, I can use a standing block. I think
Yeah, apart from that probably, um, it should be pretty good. The bare bones are still there. You know, so everything's still there
Yeah, I'm gonna have to probably loosen up the motor and put some carry down down it or some some sort of oil down
The ball to loosen it up. I use my head to sand it
Oh, that might work
That might work, but um, yeah, so I think um
To get it, uh, it's basically sprayed up get it all back together again. And then just uh, mechanically do the brakes
Yeah
You know turn the motor over
It'll need a fuel pump put on it because I took I stripped out all the upper gas out of it. Yeah
and I've got
For pretty much brand new car be sitting on a shelf for it stuff like that. So okay
No, any problems in getting that, you know getting the car
It's a unique color, isn't it? Well, it's like a greeny bluey color or something. No, it's not that it's not the
Corinthian blue. It's a mi blue. It's it's more like the grabber blue Mustang. It's got that violet in it. That oh, yeah
Yeah, I mean, I haven't seen that car, but it was a long time ago and I knew it was a sort of unusual, uh
Yeah, it is it is a unique color that they
Back then a so-called hero colors, you know that the oranges the blues
The greens all those bright colors, which are yeah, we're very unique even at that time
Well, we can all be able to pick a panel and send it back and get it get it going
We make it a competition. Who does the best sanding job a percent?
Yeah
And and if worse comes to worse, we can um always sand it again if it doesn't come out right correct. Yeah
That's that's
That's the thing about it like you can't you can always redo it. Yeah. Yeah
If you're like, oh, you know might have sanded a bit lower. You can always just redo it. Oh, it's still a bit rough
Well, we just sanded a bit more. Yeah. Yeah true true
And I shouldn't be so and that's the thing I've always been fussy about it
And I I wanted I do want to do a bodge job on it like I did with my
You know the barrow murk where it's you know, it looks fantastic from a meter away
But when you got looked up closer wasn't all that crash hot
Yeah prep is a big part of it obviously and I will say rob
Um, I did learn a fair bit from your spray painter
So like we can apply that stuff to the car
And make it really come out good. So he's not he's not spraying rob's car, but he's teaching you
That what I'm doing a spray paint as a furniture. Yeah, he's actually paying me
No, all right, you just from
Oh, that's cool. There it is
The boys there's five of us in that car
In on a trip to Queensland. That's us at on the gold gold coast. That's a good car
This has got to happen Rob. It's nice to happen. These these upcoming Christmas holidays. I think we could we could
That's my my wife when I
I went to the Leyland club event at Easter. She look at just the same
1990s
And that's me driving it up to Alice Springs. Wow, that thing's been everywhere. It's it has been really this car. That's incredible
I've been everywhere
That's a four seven kubat the club meet. Oh, yeah
Yeah
Once it's all finished again, then you redo those photos in those same spots. Oh my god, imagine that
Whoa, that looks good
Very tough
So they'll find it
Uh, oh here here that that's my collection of p76's
Yeah, but you're a sick man on the side there is my w 116 with my amg
Yeah
Beautiful. Yeah, so I had a few of them
All right, so before we get into the quiz
Let's finish up this topic. So we mentioned some cars that have just stayed the same. So
Do you think
Well, obviously you were mentioning earlier some people live, you know
They're not into those cars and the the kind of prices stayed because no one's buying them
But that can't be the only reason why some cars are staying at certain prices
Do you reckon it's the demand or do you reckon they'll they were made they made so many because I think the
How many were made doesn't really affect considering they made 40 000 r32 gtrs. Yeah, so
You know, that's and they're still pushing 100k these days, right? They're also that's a it's a global demand item now
Yeah, right the market opened because of America. Yeah, because I was going to say like you could buy a 32 gdr for
9 10 000 or 1 point 12 grand
Happy days. Yeah, they're roadworthy. We're talking 15 years ago, right?
I think Scotty and Alan were right like it the market opened for them everywhere else
Not everywhere else, but in a lot of other places big markets
therefore that demand for that
original existing supply they just yeah
it's just because of shitty country
And a shitty movie
That just completely ruined the market. Yeah
all right, um
Okay, so besides that is there any other reason that cars stay at the same price
It's a
Skinwalker lizard man conspiracy
Okay, some of them are expensive to repair, you know, can't get parts. So people are just scared, you know
I guess that's that's why rx8s are so cheap. Yeah, like
Like a car that has inherent issues and you know, they all need that and if it's a bad one
It just makes it uneconomical, you know, that that keeps a lid on it food for thought gentlemen
You guys ready for the car quiz? Yes, indeed
Yeah, all right. I've just been waiting for this for six months
Well, hang on. Who's quizzes it? It's my quiz. I'm just gonna take a photo. I'll shuffle down over here
Okay, well, you know
So gentlemen, you know what the rules are it's 10 questions plus a bonus as you can see these boys have moved over to the other side
So, so um, no shenanigans. No shenanigans Ed. I'm watching you. I'm not watching you. I'm not doing nothing
Yeah, I was like back here. Have a good one, mate. I ain't doing nothing. I just want a fair go
It's what's a fair go
So, you know the rules 10 questions plus some bonus questions for tonight's illustrious award of bragging rights for
The week question one the key a seed was a modal made specifically to tailor for the european customer
What does the abbreviation of seed actually mean and I'll I'll tell you I'll give you a hint
I'll give you a 0.5 for each word in there. So it's an abbreviation. It's an abbreviation of the words. Yeah, it's
Is that an acronym? It's an acronym. Correct. It's an acronym
Oh
So it is an acronym. So
What is what is how do you spell the seed part of seed again? It's c e apostrophe e
d
Yeah, okay
As it would share me clocks one say c apostrophe d. Yeah
I've got an answer Ed. Well the c bit. I think is coupé
incorrect
Yeah, because in the european market it wasn't
I could uh, you couldn't get him as a coup in the you couldn't get him as a four
Do you get both that was a proceed you get a proceed as well? Yeah, of course shenanigans
How
Because I can't see more alum. So there's got to be some sort of shenanigan going on
I'm gonna have like a reflection of their faces over there. There's something's going on a mirror a mirror. Yeah
Jim
Um, I'm gonna guess that one of the e stands for efficient
It doesn't
Alam, alam, I will guess that uh, one of the e stands for
Uh economy. No, it does not. Oh
Chad chud. This is one of the e stand for eccentric
It does not
Scotty does the c stand for consumer it
You may as well give it to me
Yeah, this is a layup of somebody it's who doesn't know to go rob rob
Um, so he's not consumer bud evicted
What
Um, I'll tell I'll give you guys one more hint
But just try try say some words that that could possibly make sense and then I'll see if there's any points in in in the in the air for you guys
all right
um
Did we say efficient yet? We have
All right, Matt. We don't know what is it you guys will give up. I think c stands a customer. It does not
comfortable extremely
Jim
Jim was in there next um, I was going to say uh enthusiast
It does not. All right
Final guess customer exhibits erectile dysfunction
I wish you would it it stands for because it was made for the european market
It stands for community of europe with european design. That's awful. Sounds terrible. Blame
Blame far happy with customer exhibits erectile dysfunction
stupid
dumb
It's got european european in there
I think we need to go back to kia and go back to the past and change it to whatever elm said
I know I think that that's what we should call it from now on
bonus question. I'm quite happy that nobody got that right
yes
So, um bonus question. Where was it actually made?
hint it wasn't korea
Elm elm don't say north korea
Slovakia
Slovakia's correct. Well done
It was made in Slovakia
That was a shot in the dark
There was a shot in the dark dark on you was one of the poorer european
There was a shot in the uh, the twilight to the twilight. All right, we'll go with that
Question number two. She's kind of really a question too. This is embarrassing
What to add a model is said to be axed in australia next to y'all
Ed
That electric
Incorrect. I wish it was but incorrect
Elm elm
Is it the g. R. Corolla isn't that the g. R. Corolla jim?
Fortuna. Fortuna is correct jim. Well done. Why are they actually fortunate? Is that a high luxe in an suv?
Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Slash
So sales. Yeah, it's not a big not a big seller for some reason. Yeah
Yeah
Because because you need to you mate hashtag straya. You're right here
Um, where's patrick when you need it question number three which car company
Were the first to adopt hydrogen technology
And alam got in to it is incorrect
Ed was next bmw bmw is incorrect. Oh what?
Okay, first to adopt hydrogen technology in their cars as in like mass produced mass produced. Yeah, how?
That's where it goes. This is some chinese bullshit company. You know, it's gonna be like a bus company or something
No, it's not me what it rob
Incorrect. Good. I like you thinking Robert. No, they're not quite they are quite they are innovators, Robert
There's gonna be some people screaming at their computers and stuff, right? I've got to be david prince screaming no one else
Don't feel like I know this
We're not here, David. Well, it's not honda. So wait
Uh, who was in there? Was that you? Yeah, but it wasn't a real guess. I mean, I know it's not honda
It's up to you. Do you want to make me sort of guess? I'm guessing that
I haven't had a guess
Have a guess chad
It's too late, um
Let's go with sob incorrect. Rob. What did you say? Come on. Hunter is correct. It is honda
I know I knew from the way he was behaving that you had guessed honda me it obviously gets
Hang on. I'm calling shenanigans
I'll take it
No, it's because the way you said oh david prince and then he's like could be honda. No, that was before I said on the
Anyway, it doesn't matter. I feel like a fucking idiot
Score check chat at the score
It's score
Rob
Jim and alem on a water piece
question number four staying with honda
How many times has honda won the wheels car of the year gong in ed
three
incorrect
Rob Rob five
incorrect alem seven incorrect
Scott scott four incorrect jim jim
two incorrect chad chad six is correct
I guess it's gonna
I definitely knew that
They won odyssey nsx
Yeah, wow a couple of times. I think they did the csc
z
Called euro over the year for a crz. Yeah, I know we'd want
Like it like it like it as a carbon. It's a weird one to win
They liked it for its innovation
That was the reason for it was to win
Um question number five subaru has long been known for their philanthropy
They have donated 51 million dollars
To world wildlife to help with what?
Ed Ed help um animals not become extinct
Or incorrect alem alem anti poaching efforts
You know what we'll give you point five alem for that. It's you're on you're kind of it's
What's what happens to those animals? So I'll give you point five
Uh chat chat is a animal testing
incorrect
It was a little crash testing crash testing
Just start with the animal route and you know what happens for the animals
I mean, you know
Use them as crash dummies
incorrect
Scotty rob and jim still available to to have a have a guess
Bim I was gonna say is it um
Like forced labor or something
Oh, I wish it was but incorrect about to stop poachers
We've kind of had the island that was the alums alums answer incorrect
Scotty
um, it's to
Stop ivory
Exportation incorrect. It's to combat animal abuse
That's what they've done at 51 million dollars to
Uh, I own my pet. So if I want to smack it, I will
Somebody call the RSPC
It's because like give me eight points for the get to get smack
Oh
Chat here
So Subaru got suckered into the ad where the bears in a cage in Romania, you know where they keep the bear in a cage
Yeah, thank you. Oh, yeah the carnivals. Yeah, the news
The sun bears
The sun bears in one of those asian countries they keep them in a cage and
Just have a tube that goes into their stomach to get their stomach while they are and use that as medicine
Well, that's crazy. You know, there's no
Benefit with it, but they still think it's some kind of medicine
They just well, that's the same with like
rhino horns and elephant tusks and
And the same as your fingernails in here
But that stuff looks beautiful when it's polished
That's true. You make a gear knob out of it or something
I've seen an elephant's foot umbrella stand. I'll tell you it looks all right
I mean samurai swords
Scotty
It's full ivory keys
Real guerrilla chests
That'll skin my chauffeur's berry of poodle on my noodle
Yes
loves himself
Scotty, this is a new Scotty. I
You, you know, no wonder why Honda fans. Sorry the Subaru. I'm not a fan of you
question number six
What model in vw's lineup was the first to adopt front wheel drive?
Rob Rob
Golf is correct. Rob. Well done
one point to Rob
Jesus
Um question number seven the color
Barney's shirt
It's a cool. That's the name of a color Barney's shirt was offered by which car company?
Ed Ed like cries the valiant no incorrect
Good right here on right here
Rob AMC
AMC is incorrect Rob. Good guess. Rob
Scott Plymouth Plymouth is also incorrect. Alan. Alan. Pontiac. Pontiac's incorrect
Yeah
Jim
Incorrect, I can't I can't give that for Chevrolet. Unfortunately. It's a jam
It's good. It is a jam, but it's a subsidiary of jam. So you got to pick a brand from jam
I'll pick one and go again
Cadillac. Cadillac is incorrect. It was Holden Holden offered a color called Barney's shirt
Was it like a peachy purple? Yeah, it was on Taranas and stuff. Um
There you go. So now you know question number eight the Lamborghini Diablo
It's uh, it's auto corrected to the Lamborghini Disable
I just realized that now
It was originally
All-wheel drive so that they made an all-wheel drive version of the Lamborghini Diablo
It was called the VT. It was originally delayed from sale. For what particular reason?
Okay, uh, that's it. Moving on
Rob
Didn't the drive system fail on it or something? Not quite. No, that's incorrect
Jim Jim was it a parts supply issue? Was not a parts supply issue
Chad Chad was it like slow or something like it's slower than they wanted. It wasn't slow
Um, Allen. Was there a lawsuit?
Uh, but that's not that's that's that's yeah, but to do that come because cows too dangerous to creche
You're incorrect Scotty and Scotty and Ed still get this yet to guess
Oh
I don't know
What's something wild that could happen? I ever think
Oh, it's got catches fire. It did not catch fire
I'm like, that's just a lot of one unless like yes
Get ties for it
Incorrect the it was delayed for production because thieves stole the prototype
What
That's a great story
Thieves stole the prototype so they were like and being it being a telly. Uh, what's it called?
They beginning they're always broke because they're like we cannot afford to make a phone make another one another one
Fuck wild. Did they find it? I don't know actually
We should look though should look that up bonus question. It was known as the VT. What does VT stand for?
Very turbulent very turbulent. They had a very turbulent upbringing, but no that isn't correct
Variable transmission variable transmission is incorrect. That's more Jim's
Jim's area of expertise
Uh, what what else could it be? Is it like is it going to be Italian words? It's not it's not a
Okay, all right
Actually, Ed, I'll give you I'll give you I'll give you one point because the second word is traction. Oh
But the first one isn't a very good. No, it's not very good
And Jim Jim
Is it variable?
incorrect
Traction something traction
as a traction
Pazzi traction
Is a velocity?
Oh, you know incorrect incorrect. I can't give a teller
The luptuous the luptuous traction
I feel like the luptuous traction gentlemen
um
We'll give up all out. Yeah
viscous
distraction
viscous
viscous, it's uh, it's it's it's got the viscous traction
It was it was a came on the diablo vt. So it couldn't possibly have left those possibly
And it was stolen
Oh, jeez. All right next question question. No, I have two to go
In what decade did Toyota sell their first vehicle?
What decade Ed?
1920s incorrect. Oh, Allen
1910s incorrect
Chad Chad 40s incorrect. Oh Jim
Uh, Rob was next 1930s 1930s is correct Rob. Well done
Were you going to say 30s as well Jim? No
Okay
Question 10 is a brochure question. Let me get me out. Let me get my brochure questions
I know you're a big fan of a brochure question. So Rob, how's it feel like winning this quiz?
I'd just like to thank my p76 fan
All three of them
All three of them
Okay, you ready?
Yeah question number 10 brochure question
Life moves up a gear in the all-new european designed and engineered blank
Freedom meets fashion
Design turns a new corner open or closed
The blank two-seater convertible has personalities to spare
Change your mood change your blank at the push of a button
The hardtop roof disappears in just 18 seconds
Feel the wind in your hair and the power of the 1.8 liter ecotech engine under your foot. Chad
Hold an astro convertible incorrect. I was going to say that too, but that's a fall
Jim
Uh, was it the uh, hold on barina convertible? Incorrect. They're a four-seater as well. Yeah
Yeah
So
Dollar the fun
Dollar the fun install from bumper to bumper for a real breath of fresh air overview
I have 1.8 liter ecotech engine alloy. Sorry a 16 inch alloy wheels
Sports suspension air conditioning antilock brakes and brake assist cruise control power windows and driver passenger side air bags gentlemen. What am I?
I'm an opal
It is it is based off an opal, but it was also a Holden model. So I think you guys have
I know it you could oh wait. You've had a guess. I love you. No, I want another one
Who's guest chad's guest? Did you guess no wait, so uh, Jim you guessed didn't you?
That's right. Yeah
Someone said astro convertible not me. Someone said barina convertible
All right, and it is your turn now. I'm gonna tell you the right answer. Yeah, it's the Holden tigra. It is the
Is the Holden
All right gentlemen, that's the quiz score check
Uh, scottie at the score tonight scottie. It wasn't you know, he's
Yeah, well, that's what you get for being an animal hater. I know
He just got stuck with subaru
Anti-subaru scottie. I'm not an animal hater. I'm an animal abuser
I still like my animals
I just like abusing them too
Good lord. Uh, just so you know, this is we do not convert condoned violence against animals
We also don't believe scottie's an animal abuser just for you know, just prosperity. I've seen me
I'm sure people know that i'm joking. Uh, I've seen me if you're unsure. I'm joking
I mean come on. I've seen the condition of Simba. He's a very well-loved and cared for cat
um
Place was jim and chad on one a piece
Alam on 1.5 add on two and tonight's winner on three is rob well done
Come back jim come back king rob is anyone you want to thank?
Uh, like I said, I just like to thank all my p76 fans all three of them
And um, yeah, and to the crew for letting me win. Thank you
Good fun tonight good discussion
Congrats to you rob for your unbelievable winning of the car quiz
The holding tigra they didn't so many of them did they well time for good reason now a shish
No, I don't wish to it was in that era of holding where they're all bad
Every single one the veva the berina the tigra
The tracks the epica the malibu need I go on the vector don't touch me
Yeah
Well the earlier vectors weren't as bad, but they're still bad, but just don't touch any of them
You're better off just without that in your life. I forgot the veva existed
I forgot like I'm just drowned that out of my out of my life because it was just a um, what was it day?
We call us day. We call us. No, it was a it was a
Lissetti day with the city Lissetti
Wasn't a good car
I remember my friend's dad
Parents had one growing up and it was a wagon
And we would just take it out to like go to the shops and stuff and would just rip handbrakes like around
It was the it was the biggest piece of shit. They were terrible. It sucked. They were terrible cars
Here's a story you just before we finish up. I went to test drive on saturday a fiat panda
with
Do we know what a panda is? It's basically like we do honda jazz made by fiat didn't sell a lot of them
Anyway, I wonder why it's a
It's a two cylinder
Um air cooled air cooled. Wow. Yeah turbo. So it actually wow
It goes all right and it actually sounds all right
But the funny thing was saturday was very pissing with rain and my friend was was the one looking at it for sale
So we jump in and he's driving
We drive down the street and turn right. It's like it's like a one-liter engine or a 900 cc engine
He turns right at the end of the street and this massive niagara falls of water comes out from under the dash and on
He's
No
I couldn't stop laughing because the passenger side was very dry like this hara does it
He and it did it a couple more times spewing more water
And I've never seen that much water come out from under a dash in a car
Like you get occasionally you get a drip or a dribble if you've got a block drain or something
But this was like half a liter of milk, you know, just
So he was squelching around the rest of the morning because of his bloody pants and it was someone else's car. Yeah
Oh, so I'm assuming
No, he hasn't bought it
One the why it's got a giant air leak on the front
I just thought that's that's not good for a car that was built-in night. I know 2013 or whatever it was
Not that old. Did it have a sunroof? No. Oh my god. Where's that coming from then?
I know it's taking a bum missing on the firewall or something the whole cars
Maybe there's a big walloping hole in the firewall
Surprising hey
Anyway, gentlemen, that's a podcast I think
Okay, let's do some plugs. It's by swapping cell
If anyone wants a VRX all-drive magna, you know, sort of cheap-ish like, you know, hit me up
C-class on the way
Polo on the way. Yeah, that's it
Very good. Pajero too. I knew old Pajero on the way, but you know, I got a chip away at him first. Absolutely
Rob's doing it. He's firefighting electrical
Sandblasting P-76 repairing P-76 repair. Yeah, P-76 repairing gentlemen. I think we need to plan a day
And we're gonna pull it out. I'm down. I'm I'm good to go
Let's do it. I'll retry that phrasing mate
It's all
You're you it's you. I want to say like mother like son. Oh, Sharon has terrible phrasing at work as well
What was the phrase pick a day and just start on it pull it out and start
Only you
Would pick up on these things dirty lines raising
Sorry, I'm not a wordsmith like you. I love Jesus Christ
Uh, moving on to Scott, he's got a tip of the week
Yeah, I'm no phrasing here, but focus on the whole
I think I couldn't be any more clearer. Yeah
That's that's a good one. We'll move swiftly on
Chad's delivery is delivering to a place to you. Yep, uh, by and we'll bring it by and bring it Jim
Anything from you? Jim's high kilometer driving. Jim's high kilometer driving. Yeah. Yeah, just
When you hear a funny noise get on to it today not in six months and wonder why it cost you a house mortgage
There you go. That's uh, you've heard it here first. That's that's Jim's, um
Jim's advice
Because like there's Jim's mowing. Yeah, there's Jim's, uh, there's Jim's cleaning
Jim's car, valet, car taker, Kira. Yeah, I'm happy to do all of that
Jim's car
Yeah, absolutely. Jim's car advice caretaking. Jim's caretaking. Yeah, I'm
I'm gonna circle my cars through you Jim. You're gonna put the
I'm quite happy to do that. Yeah
Caretaking sounds like a thief like caretaking. He just takes your car
You tell the cops you go who I was Jim's car taking and they're like, well,
What do you think?
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He's a good man
I'm true next year. I want to try the new Honda super one at some point
That would be me too. Watch them price it at $80,000
100% super one it's Honda. It's going to be a ridiculous price
It's going to be 50 grand at least they're going to price it out of wonder why it won't sell. Yeah
Oh, no another car that we've brought here. That's no one's buying. Oh dear
That'll be the nail in the coffin. I mean, we hope not
I think that I don't do it that I don't have to be priced aggressively
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About this episode
A lively discussion unfolds as the Car Torque crew dives into the automotive world, sharing updates on their personal projects and experiences. They explore the phenomenon of cars that maintain their value over time, with examples like the Honda Civic and Subaru WRX. The conversation touches on the impact of market demand, production numbers, and the quirks of various models. The episode also features a fun quiz segment, where participants compete on automotive trivia, leading to humorous moments and insights into car culture.
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differential
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Japanese car
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modules
oil leak
seven speed double clutch
steering racks
Acura CL
Acura Integra
BMW M5
BMW M Coupe (E36)
Chevrolet Epica
Citroen DS 3
Datsun 510
Ford Mustang
Ford Ranger
Honda Accord
Honda Civic
Honda CR-V
Honda Prelude
Honda S2000
Lamborghini 350 GTS
Lamborghini Diablo
Mazda MX-5 / Miata
Mazda RX-8
Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL 6.3 (W109)
Mercedes-Benz C-Class
Mitsubishi Lancer
Mitsubishi Pajero/Montero/Shogun
Nissan Skyline
Opel Tigra
Peugeot 504
Renault Wind
Subaru WRX
Suzuki Samurai
Toyota Camry
Toyota Corolla
Toyota Land Cruiser
Toyota Supra
Volkswagen Passat
Volkswagen Polo
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