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This is the Classic Automall Show.
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Broadcast from the studios inside the Classic Automall in Morgantown, Pennsylvania.
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Just one hour west of Philadelphia at Pennsylvania Turnpike Exit 298.
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Featuring nearly 1,000 classic vintage and barred fine vehicles for sale under one climate controlled roof.
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Now, here's your host, Classic Automall president and the man with all the toys, Stuart Howden.
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And here we are, show number, what did you say it was, 244?
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We have a body of work.
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Our engineer extraordinaire is out today.
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We can handle it, can't we?
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Wherever many had you.
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Are you about to lose it in there or something?
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So, we won't, we'll change the question of the day and we'll make it.
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So, how many, let me see, what can the question be?
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How many subscribers do we have today, Steve?
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Oh, that's, I saw it hit 250.
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250,000 on YouTube.
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A year ago today, we had 18,000.
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But I have applause here.
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Don't mess it up, please.
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16,301,000 views and 1916 videos.
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Randy's getting tired of shooting all these videos, I would imagine.
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Anyway, let's get right to our guests joining us, not via Zoom, but in person.
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Brett, good morning.
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It's a pleasure to be here.
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We were, we just saw you Sunday at the Ferrari Concours event down at the Union League Golf Course.
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That's a beautiful facility.
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And the cars they have down there, just, you know, you say, oh, I want that.
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No, I want, if you had to pick one, was there one you would have picked at the Ferrari
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It's just because, I mean, first of all, you don't see most Ferrari shows you go, unfortunately,
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or fortunately, or whatever, most Ferrari shows you go to, you see later model for us,
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drivable for us, which I understand.
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The TDF Ferrari is not something necessarily you would daily drive.
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I mean, you could, and you'd be the coolest guy in the history of cool guys, right?
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But that's such a great and unusual color combination.
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Yeah, the white-red.
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Race at Sebring too.
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I mean, what an amazing history of cars.
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Yeah, that's the coolest thing about, you know, finding the history of these cars.
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There's nothing better than buying a car and knowing some information about it.
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And then you open the trunk and you find just a treasure trove of photo albums and receipts
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from back in the day and the original title bill of sale and all of that.
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And, you know, so, that's so important.
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And we try to make sure that people understand how important it is because when you go and
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the person that takes care of your estate of how many Ferraris you're going to have when
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Well, I think exactly.
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Then all that stuff needs to be making sure that it goes with the car.
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That's important, you know.
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I mean, you can't lose the history on the car.
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I mean, like, that's what's so special about these.
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It's not just, you know, the looks, the styling, the engine histories, the provenance.
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I mean, the racing history of that.
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I mean, nothing can.
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And Ferraris, you know, for those of us in the car world, they're kind of the top of
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I mean, you know, there's cool cars out there.
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There's hypercars that are, well, Ferraris makes hypercars, but there's, you know, lots
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of cool cars out there.
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But Ferraris, you know, there's something about that myth and exclusivity about Ferris.
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So, tell us how you got started in the car world, because you're putting on the Philly
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Concours, which is coming up in about three weeks, but you started out with a high school
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Yeah, it was more of a passion project.
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I mean, post-COVID, I started what was originally just a small little car and coffee and a little
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municipal parking lot in Bryn Mawr, and it has grown into something so much more.
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Never knew, you know, what it was going to become.
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Did you get an A on the...
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I mean, it was more of, you know, something that it was post-COVID.
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Right as it was ending, not many events going on.
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And, you know, I grew up, I have 10 minutes drive from Algar Ferrari, you know, my most
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famous Ferrari dealerships around, and see the craziest cars driving down the road.
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There was really no, you know, I ain't car culture in the area.
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I know events like that, especially during COVID, and I think we just started at the right
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time, and everybody was excited to get their car out of the garage.
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I mean, also get out of their own house.
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Our first event, we had 131 cars show up, and, yeah, I mean, so...
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Still a great show, yeah.
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I think what really put us on the map was we had a McLaren Speedtail show up at the first
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event, which, you know, that was the first one on the East Coast.
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I mean, Jess came out, 106 in the world, you know, the three-seater.
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McLaren's based on, you know, McLaren F1, and I mean, it kind of went viral online.
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And, you know, the next event, we had an Elva show up, and, you know, we just started growing.
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Oddball stuff that, you know, people want to see in person.
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I mean, we had Miros and F40s our first year, and, you know, it just really started picking
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up, and now we're at a point where we're getting 2,000 to 2,500 vehicles a month.
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I mean, our season opener, we had about 5,000 cars show up.
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I mean, it's a lot.
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We like to stick around the 2,500.
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I mean, a logistic standpoint.
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I mean, there's just so much that goes into it.
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How many volunteers do you have?
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Take a guess, because I guess you would never...
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You think I'm going to guess lower?
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I'm going to guess high.
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So, volunteers for an event like that, you've got to have, what, at least 50?
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We're about 7 on a regular basis, and then, you know, it's all about directing traffic.
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Traffic is the main issue.
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That's the most important thing.
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And that's volunteers.
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We also hire a full detail of police officers, you know, to make sure that we have traffic
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safety, to make sure that if traffic's building up, you know, we change the lights.
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We actually have, you know, the button that opens up the light.
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I'd love to have it myself.
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That's a handicap parking sticker, and that's what we do.
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And then, we have, you know, stop signs that are there, but they're able to, you know,
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push cars through if, you know, we're building up traffic.
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We're lucky enough to, you know, be at the Chesterborough Corporate Center, which is
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There's nothing else off of that, you know, on ramp.
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So, essentially, we're able to just blow cars in.
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It's in a huge corporate center.
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Nothing's open on a Sunday.
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Really, no residential houses within, you know, a third of a mile.
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And that helps for the noise.
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Helps with the noise.
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And for the guys who want to get a little heavy-footed, which you highly discourage.
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I mean, again, you, we've been able to maintain an event that is of this scale, of this size
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for, you know, six years now, because of how organized it is.
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Because we hire, you know, police detail.
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We have lease agreements with all the venue.
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I mean, every venue that we've ever had, we've always, you know, done it the right way.
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We didn't just show up to a parking lot and just hope we don't get kicked out.
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Which a lot of people do.
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I mean, and we get the permits from the township, you know, we have to bring in, you know, portable
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toilets in order to make sure we have the infrastructure, food trucks, make sure that
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all the food trucks are permitted within, you know, local health codes.
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There's so much that goes into it, rather than, you know, just showing up at a parking
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lot, putting an Instagram post out that, you know, I'm not sure if everybody understands,
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I don't think they do.
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And you've got to be really good at social media.
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And that's got to have been a huge driver to your...
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I mean, Instagram has grown rather dramatically over the last couple of years.
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And that's really been the main driver for, you know, how we're getting all these modern
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Classics, you can still, you know, get through Facebook and then just going out to events,
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talking to people and then word of mouth.
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But Instagram just allows you to have such a huge reach for, you know, and we don't pay
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It's one-to-one outreach through DMs.
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It's, you know, putting out a flyer, posting it.
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And, you know, we get double the reposts as we get likes on our posts.
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I mean, people are just sharing these everywhere.
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And you can draw from a larger area as well, too, right?
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You don't have to focus all your concentration just on Philly or just on the main line or
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I mean, we have cars come down from Connecticut for the events.
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I mean, we've had spectators drive up from West Virginia and stay in a hotel overnight,
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I mean, which, I mean, such a compliment.
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I mean, that was when we were back in Brynmar when somebody came and they said, you know,
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we just drove eight hours for this event.
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You couldn't believe it, right?
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I mean, that parking lot could hold about 250 cars and somebody was coming to an event
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You were getting some amazing stuff back then.
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We still, I mean, and we still do.
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But even at that small scale, quality of cars that we're attending were second to none.
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I saw GTD Mustang at the last one, which was kind of cool.
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It's funny that Ford was the thing that caught my eye at a particular event.
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I mean, I think that one was one of the first, you know, in the country.
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I mean, we have a couple that, you know, have been around at our events.
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I think had white, which is like an American flag striped down the middle, red, white and
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blue, you know, white one.
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We've had a black one, a gray one.
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And now a green one is going to be the area as well.
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We're getting pretty lucky with some amazing cars in the area.
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Great car culture, great collectors.
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And these are collectors that like to share their cars as well.
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It's not just, you know, you purchase the car, put it in a garage and, you know.
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And nobody sees it.
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And that's also what I like about these events is, you know, you get to show, I mean, kids
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that have never seen any of these cars.
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I mean, we get everything from a 1906 auto car all the way up to the newest and greatest
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And we can show, you know, a kid that's never seen something, you know, older than 1960,
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a free war car and show somebody that, you know, has a old Packard, the newest and greatest
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from the, you know, car world.
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So but also what we do at our events is we section out all the vehicles by, you know,
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country of origin and everything like that.
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So within, you know, this huge event, you have all these different subcommittees.
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You have the, you know, guys that like to take the lawn chairs out from the car, put
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them behind the car.
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We have a whole lot just full of classics.
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We have a whole lot just full of Porsches because we get so many.
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I mean, the main line has such an amazing Porsche collector base.
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And then same goes for our supercars.
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We just have a whole lot full of, you know, modern exotics, Lamborghinis, Ferraris, McLarens.
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I mean, it's really unique where you can go to a show, you can, you know, just look
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at the cars that you want to see, but also walk around and you see so many different
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sides to the automotive community from, you know, classic guys to the young guys that
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just bought their first, you know, M3.
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And M3 is a great car.
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It's a border racer car, but it's a great car.
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And, you know, I think that seeing those type of events or the kind of events that the future
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holds for the car world, because the cars and coffee satisfies two niches of the crowds
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and you just set it.
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The guy sits on his folding chair all day long and tells you everything about his car
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and the guy wants to just go for an hour or two and equally welcome and you can come
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and go in a car, not come and go, but you don't want to, you probably won't come back,
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but you can leave when you're ready to go.
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I mean, it's not like you load onto a show field at six in the morning.
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Keep it there till, you know, every spectator is gone and you have to load it up into your
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Very different kind of experience, but also two, I mean, needs in the car world between,
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you know, a cars and coffee vibe where it's, you know, a monthly event.
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I wouldn't say it's informal in any way, but, you know, people can show up and enjoy the
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event versus a Concorde elegance where, you know, super curated.
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I mean, we have placards that we have to write in front of the cars.
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We have, you know, caviar service.
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We have that kind of stuff that's, you know, just making it a whole different level of
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automotive event where it's not just about the experience, about being there.
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So, I mean, I think there's definitely a need for both of those in the automotive world.
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And a natural progression for you to go from learning all of this kind of car world in
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the cars and coffees side of it and then moving into the Concorde elegance side as
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Before we get to the Concorde, quickly, where do you see the cars and coffee going?
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What's the vision future of that?
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At this point, scale isn't our main thing.
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Again, if I put a post out, if I really wanted to push it, we can get 10,000 cars
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there on any given month.
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I mean, we've done it before, but it's really about, you know, increasing the quality of
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cars, getting the collectors that never bring their cars out to the event.
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Because, I mean, like I said, we get mirrors.
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We get, you know, classic Ferraris.
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We've had Goddys, Paghanis and getting that stuff that, you know, don't find Pennsylvania.
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There's cars that we've had shipped down from Greenwich, Connecticut to the events just
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because there are none in the state of Pennsylvania.
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It really allows us to, you know, share automotive world with such a, I mean, diverse
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audience, but also just show people parts that they've never seen before.
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So I'd say it's really about increasing the quality of cars rather than, rather than
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Seeing a car in person is sometimes photographs don't do any cars justice.
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I mean, there are certain photographers that do make them, give them justice.
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One of them being Michael Furman, who's involved, who's arguably one of the greatest
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photographers of our generation or wherever, probably.
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I was amazed when watching him shoot for the first time, how far away he is from
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car when he shoots it.
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He's like, like 50 yards.
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But that's the way it's the way that I don't understand all the ins and
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outs of it, but he's pretty darn good at what he really is.
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And I mean, even from shooting that far away, I mean, he sent me photo files in
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the past where we asked for a larger photo file.
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It takes me like an hour to download just like three photos, just because you can
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zoom in from, I mean, a photo 50 yards away onto the headlight and you can read,
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you know, all of the stuff.
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It's so impressive.
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You know, I had a friend of mine send me a high res Ferrari picture one time.
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It was like 45 megabytes.
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This was back in the day and I sent it to my printer and ink just started
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flowing out of the printer.
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It just didn't even know what to do.
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Just overloaded with it.
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So, so, um, so you do the, the, the main line cars.
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And I guess I imagine that your school is done.
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Are you, are you finished three weeks ago?
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So I just graduated and I'm very happy about that.
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And your degree will have nothing to do with what you're going to do for the
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rest of your life, right?
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I mean, entrepreneurship and finance with a minor in data science, the
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entrepreneurship side, you know, really, really helps with, I mean, all of this
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from, you know, understanding a P&L and how to, you know, make a budget for an
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event that's, you know, of the scale and magnitude of the Philly concourse.
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So, I mean, um, there is some useful classes that I had, but I'd say, you
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know, um, large majority were, you know, okay, sure, good.
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Well, that's undergraduate.
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I mean, that's an undergraduate degree.
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I think that school is, is important for learning how to learn as, as what you
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learn, you know, learning how to take in information.
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You know, when I do the show here, I'll read a book about somebody who I've
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known all my life or I've thought I knew all my life.
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And then I realized I know nothing about that person.
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You know, we have Bobby Ray Hall, Indy car, famous Indy car driver on.
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And I, I knew all about Bobby Ray Hall.
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I didn't know anything about him.
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I didn't know 11 hundredth of anything about him.
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So, uh, it's always interesting when you deep dive into something that we find
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out, you know, really a lot of information comes through.
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The Philadelphia Concorde elegant started out at the Simeone Museum and what
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2017 was when it was founded.
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And I mean, Simeone, the greatest collection in the world.
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I mean, it's rated that year after year, the best, I mean, race car collection
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And, well, I mean, it was a great spot for the Concorde to start and begin.
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Um, cars are amazing.
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The venue just wasn't the right place for a Concorde elegance and not enough
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room either, not enough room again, as we, as we were scaling and as, you know,
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the cars were increasing and, you know, prestige and everything, um, really
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needed to move on to a golf course needed to be on the grass rather than, you
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know, in South Philly, which again, amazing collection could not say
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greater things if you haven't been to the Simeone Museum.
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I mean, from Porsche 917 to 250 test races.
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I mean, stuff that you won't see anywhere else.
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I mean, Fred Simeone really just had the ability to see what these cars were in
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a time where we really didn't.
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He bought some of these cars.
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Who was throwing away stuff.
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I mean, I mean, the stories that getting cars out of other countries that you
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just, you know, you really couldn't.
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I mean, the Cobra Daytona.
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I mean, you know, lots of stories.
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So, I mean, uh, if you haven't been, you have to go.
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But for what you were doing and for what your vision was, you've done
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your research, you've done your homework, you know, that a good
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Concord elegance isn't in, isn't in a warehouse in South Philly.
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And I'm nothing wrong with that, as you said, but it's, it's a different animal.
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It's a different animal.
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And again, after, you know, going to concours across the country from
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Pebble Beach and Mealy Island, I really saw, you know, we have the cars in the
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area to make this a success.
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And I really wanted to, you know, make it happen that way.
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So the event was originally started by cool cars, which is a charity benefiting
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children with rare genetic disorders.
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And, you know, they are still the sole beneficiary of the event.
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100% of net proceeds goes to benefiting them.
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I'm not making a dollar off this.
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Nobody's making a dollar off this other than the charity.
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So it's an amazing cause.
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And as they were, you know, scaling and everything, they reached out to me
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to really take over the operations present of the event and, you know,
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continue to have them be the beneficiary.
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And I was happy to do so.
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I mean, I was running Mainline for six years at that point.
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So like, this is going to be the first year that we've changed the venue.
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It's a event reimagined for a new era is the way that I like to put it.
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It's a modern take on a concor.
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If you can say, you know, modern, but it's a post-war event.
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So picking up in, you know, the late 50s, 60s and going through modern rather
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than the traditional concor, which, you know, is focused on pre-war cars
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going until about, you know, the late 60s.
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So we're really trying to make it so we bring in the younger audience, the people
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that are excited about the hypercars.
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We're going to have Koenigseggs there.
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We're going to have Gany's there and, you know, put them in the same environment
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where you see a 50 Testarosa where you see, you know, a 250 TDF and, you know,
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get them excited about those cars as well.
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I mean, we have a Monza SP2, then, you know, newer Monza.
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And we also have a 750 Monza coming from, you know, California.
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I mean, an amazing car.
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And our goal is to, you know, put them in the same audience, put them almost
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next to each other to show younger audience.
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Where did these design elements come from?
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Where's the history of the brand?
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Well, look at hypercar owners.
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A lot of them don't know anything about the older Ferraris.
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Yeah, that TDF that was at the Ferrari show, they might not even stop
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and even look at that if they didn't know that it was a Ferrari.
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You know, they might just go, I don't know what that car is.
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You know, that's odd, different.
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Tell us about the venue, though.
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The venue is amazing.
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We were talking about before we went on.
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That was our first choice of the venue.
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I mean, again, it's at the Union Leagues Liberty Hill Golf Course.
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The Union League has been around well over a hundred, forever.
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I mean, Abraham Lincoln was a member, that kind of stuff.
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And I mean, we were looking for a place that would be the ultimate venue for a
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Grand Concorde and I went through every golf course within probably 50 mile radius.
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You have the clubhouses, what use as the show field, what the layout would be.
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And this was our number one choice.
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And we were lucky enough to, you know, be able to work out a deal with the venue.
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And they are all on board.
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They're actually redoing, you know, the front lobby of their their hotel
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on site at the moment, and they are putting in a big amphitheater in front of it.
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Grass amphitheater.
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And as part of, you know, us coming in and doing this event there,
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they've actually changed the architectural plans to increase the width of each
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of the layers of the amphitheater, decrease the steepness of the slope.
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So we can get cars on it in future years.
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So how cool in an amphitheater setting to have exactly the cars running across.
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It would be so cool.
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So I mean, that would be amazing for future years.
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It's not going to be done just yet.
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But I mean, again, something to look forward to.
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Yep, February of next year, it's going to be done.
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So we'll have it for 2027.
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But to have the venue so on board with the event, I mean, we could not be happier
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with, you know, Union League, the Liberty Hill team.
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Everyone's been absolutely.
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Well, the Union League, I spoke at one of their dinners they had during the
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Christmas dinner or whatever down in downtown Philly.
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And they have a huge car contingent of people that are really into cars.
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And they have a subgroup of the Union League that's the car part of it.
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So that probably helped your, your, your cause quite a bit.
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I mean, the Union League Automobile Club, they host an event every year,
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you know, in the parking lots on site, great event.
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And I mean, they're, they're happy having us there.
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They're promoting it.
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We're, you know, discount code for, for all of the Union League
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Automobile Club members.
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So all in all, again, the experience of working with League, with, I mean,
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the staff at Liberty Hill could not be a more enjoyable experience.
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They, I remember when you and I were out there a couple of weeks ago and we
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were talking to them and they, you could tell they wanted to accommodate us.
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And anyway, I mean, there are certain things that they can't say yes to.
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And you always try to ask for more than you want, right?
20:23
But, but I mean, there are certain things that just logistically won't work.
20:27
But man, they were just all in, you could tell.
20:30
That's, you know, that's exciting.
20:31
A lot of times venues, they're not all engaged.
20:33
And it's just another paycheck to them.
20:35
But it seems more than that for those.
20:37
I mean, I've seen it with my cars and coffee venues.
20:39
I mean, my current venue with Chesapeake Corporate Center, all on board.
20:43
Love working with them.
20:44
But I mean, we've had past venues where, you know, it's, we're putting
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thousands of cars on their property.
20:49
It's their, you know, extremely focused about, you know, making sure
20:52
you pick up every piece of trash after, which we always do.
20:55
It's just, you know, they're trying to make sure that, you know, we know
20:59
Yeah, they don't let you forget it.
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But I mean, this venue is so much different than anyone else.
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I mean, we've really appreciated working with them, but also the
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prestige, the optics of the venue, the clubhouse.
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I mean, nothing compares.
21:12
And also the show field of how it's laid out.
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I mean, we have an area when you walk in where you can look over everything.
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I mean, and you can see the entire show field.
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And I mean, I was just at Amelia Island.
21:23
But, you know, you have to cross a little bridge in a river in order to see, you
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know, people might not have seen some of the cars there.
21:30
And there's so many there.
21:31
And what we're trying to do is really create that ultra curated environment.
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Make sure that, you know, as you walk in, you can see everything that you want to
21:38
Even driving in, you know, when you come in the driveway there, you can see the
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whole, because it's the driving range, basically, is where the event's going to
21:45
be, which is a perfect setting because it's, it's sloped downward.
21:48
And it just, it lends itself well to what you're doing.
21:52
I mean, and I mean, this event has an Italian focus this year.
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And we're trying to really just push that.
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I mean, we were getting gelato carts and cannoli carts.
21:59
We have some caviar service, some oyster shuckers on site, not as a talent with
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the oyster shuckers, but really trying to make this like a very curated, luxurious
22:07
We're not trying to emulate, you know, any other show with this.
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We're trying to be our own concor.
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We're not trying to say we'll be the pebble beach of the East Coast because,
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I mean, can't emulate that.
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No, the history, you can't ever, you can't buy that.
22:20
And, you know, with that, I mean, we're picking a country of origin each year and
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really honing in on it.
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So this year's our Italian year.
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Next year's going to be German.
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And that doesn't mean that we're only going to have Italian cars.
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But it's the focus.
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We have, you know, individual classes that we're breaking out of it, such as, you
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know, our hypercar class.
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We have Koenigsegg, Swedish brand.
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I mean, we have some truly impressive cars coming out.
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And we're also trying to, with the modern take on the concor, we're trying to
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transcend generations with, I mean, I've been going to concor's for years now.
22:47
You watch the age of the cars, you know, stay within that same, you know,
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But you're watching the age of the demographic continuing to, you know, get
22:56
And, you know, we want to bring in people that, you know, I'm not saying we're
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bringing in, you know, the eight-year-old, Jesse, I think that we are, but I'd
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say that we're decreasing the average age of the attendee at the event by
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bringing in these, you know, newer cars that we're more interested in.
23:12
And there's nothing wrong with exposing people to something that maybe they're
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not used to, that maybe they're not, they haven't ever been around dressing up a
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little bit more than usual.
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You know, people have gotten out of habit of dressing up for anything that they
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do, and there's nothing wrong with making a little fancy.
23:26
I bet you that there'll be a lot of people there that have never had caviar
23:29
and they'll have it for their first time and they'll say, wow, this is, this
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isn't what I thought it was.
23:33
You know, this is delicious, you know, I bet, you know, and that's the thing
23:36
that you want to do, expose people to a different, different style, if you will,
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and a different feel, if you will.
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And to say, here's something you can strive to achieve.
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You too can have a car on the show field.
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And I mean, and we have a full weekend of events.
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It's not just the concor.
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I mean, we start out with our tour de elegance, you know, rally through some
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of the best driving roads in the Philadelphia suburbs that ultimately ends
23:57
at Liberty Hill for our Sunset Motor Social, which is like a upscale cars
24:01
and coffee vibe, kind of like a golden hour gathering of music.
24:05
It's nicer than a traditional cars and coffee.
24:08
We have, you know, much more curated environment there.
24:10
But that ultimately ends and goes into our gourmet gala and live auction, which,
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you know, will open bar live entertainment, live auction.
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We've got some great food throughout the night.
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I mean, all in all, great auction items as well.
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We were lucky enough to have Dick Vermeel, the old coach of the Eagles,
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legendary coach on our board of directors donating eagles tickets to any game
24:30
throughout the season.
24:31
We have F1 tickets, you're a bourbon drinker, you know, Pappy Van Winkle 23
24:35
bottles that you just can't get anywhere else.
24:37
We have Tag Queer as a sponsor donating watches to the auction.
24:40
So all around, I mean, we're just trying to make this ultimate,
24:42
ultimate automotive experience.
24:44
And then it leads into the next day on Sunday, where we have the Concorde
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elegance. How many cars will you have in the Concorde approximately?
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Around a hundred cars on the show field for judged vehicles.
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And then we'll have more with, you know, sponsor cars and brands
24:56
that are bringing vehicles out.
24:58
So ultimately, again, it's a very curated environment.
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It's not quantity, it's quality.
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Exactly. And we're only accepting the best of best.
25:06
And, you know, that's tough.
25:07
I mean, we're reviewing.
25:08
We have over a 145 cars on the waitlist.
25:10
And all of them are of the quality that, you know, they could make it onto the show.
25:14
Sure. Any any other Concorde, they would probably be accepted right away.
25:19
And the reason being, I mean, again, we're not taking too many duplicate cars
25:22
other than for, you know, certain vehicles.
25:24
So, you know, we're sitting on, you know, five, you know, nice 48
25:28
piece does, but we just got a piece to pelote, which, you know, there's forty
25:31
in the world of, you know, how many made it to the U.S.
25:34
And then it's in TDF blue, which they only made it in four colors.
25:37
So you can only imagine maybe if, you know, a quarter of them,
25:40
maybe 10 of them were in blue, how many of them are in the U.S.
25:42
So it gets to the one of one dynamic.
25:47
Well, and, you know, having an event like this obviously brings out people
25:52
that have the wherewithal to have these type of cars.
25:54
And but but as you pointed out, it's important not only just the cars
25:58
on the show field, but it's all the other ancillary things that are going on,
26:01
the cruises, the different things you're doing, the auction, having vendors
26:05
that that, you know, people will spend money with and therefore the vendors
26:08
who want to come in for all intents and purposes.
26:10
This is a brand new event.
26:11
Yeah. I mean, while we have the history of, you know, since 2017,
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really the only things that are continuing to stay the same are,
26:17
you know, the name of the event and the beneficiary and everything else is,
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you know, brand new. I mean, and then you the focus, the team behind it.
26:25
I mean, we have an amazing team from our selection committee.
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Michael Furman, Mike Tilson, Toby Ross, Trey Dusik.
26:32
We have, I mean, Bill Rothmell is our emcee who's done, you know,
26:35
he's Mr. Encyclopedia. Exactly.
26:37
Over 200 and something concourse that he's done at this point where he's emceed.
26:40
Tim McNair is our chief judge who's judged everywhere. Amazing.
26:44
So all in all, I mean, our team is just world class.
26:47
We're pulling from all different areas to get cars to the event.
26:51
And also, you know, promoting it through all of these different channels,
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I mean, such as we're here right now.
26:56
Absolutely. And that's what we want to do is we want to help promote as we are
26:58
full disclosure. We're a sponsor of the event and excited to be involved and also involved
27:03
with our kind of not sister event, but cohort event with the Ratner Hunt Conqueror,
27:08
which a lot of the guys on your crew are also from the Ratner Hunt Conqueror,
27:11
which are two separate internet. You know, the great thing about it
27:14
is they both can exist in this beautiful world, right?
27:16
Exactly. And that's part of the reason why we chose this, you know,
27:19
new focus of a first war event. We didn't want to compete head to head with Ratner.
27:24
Again, we're, you know, in the same geographic area, but while they kind of end in the early,
27:29
you know, 70s, late 60s, that's where we pick up.
27:31
So I see this as a complementary relationship where we're able to expose the car world to
27:36
these newer cars in the same kind of curated environment.
27:39
We're also, you know, working together, cross promoting between, you know,
27:42
our audiences. We get the younger crowd out to Ratner who might, you know,
27:45
Oh, wow. Yeah, this is cool.
27:47
And then vice versa. So we've been working very closely with the Ratner team and cannot be happier.
27:52
Well, that's great. I mean, you talk about a great historical thing. I mean,
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been going on for 27, 28, 29, 30 years. I don't know, Steve. I don't even remember.
28:00
Thank you. Please do. Randy put that on the screen.
28:03
But, you know, that's an event that is high up there in prestige as far as
28:08
if conquer. I mean, you talk about Pebble Beach and Greenwich and Amelia Island and
28:11
Ratner is certainly in that conversation. 100%.
28:14
So, but you're right. I mean, there, there's a different take to it.
28:17
It's just like the success of different types of cars and coffee,
28:20
different types of car shows, different types of car gatherings,
28:22
whether it's a rally, whether it's all the different things that you can do.
28:26
And the other thing that's important is just getting these cars out and being seen,
28:30
not just in, as we said, in your garage. Exactly. I mean, sharing it with these
28:34
new audiences is really, I mean, it's rewarding. And I mean, I'm around these cars on a regular
28:39
basis. I get to see some of the most amazing cars in the world. But my enjoyment and my excitement
28:44
now isn't, you know, just seeing them running up and taking a picture like it used to be. I mean,
28:47
when I went to Pebble Beach back in 2021, I was a kid in a candy store. I jumped out of a moving
28:52
car. So, I, Claire and F1 driving down the road. Right. And I went to go run up and take a picture.
28:56
But my enjoyment now comes from, you know, getting these cars to my events,
28:59
getting them, you know, on the show field, being able to share them with, you know,
29:03
the world where, you know, people really don't get to see this kind of stuff.
29:06
You must have a hell of an elevator pitch to get guys to bring some of these cars,
29:09
the distance they're bringing them and the thing they're bringing. You've thought this through.
29:12
A little bit, a little bit. Yeah. I mean, and I mean, people are generous. People like to show
29:16
their cars. And, you know, by telling them about how curated the environment is, how safe the car is.
29:21
But they're skeptical too. They are skeptical. You gotta overcome that.
29:22
But by showing them that, I mean, even for my cars and coffee events,
29:26
that this isn't a normal cars and coffee. Right.
29:27
We have a full detail of police. We have armed security. I mean, we really make this
29:31
an event that you feel safe bringing your car. Part of, you know, sectioning out the cars is,
29:35
one, we have all the different sub-communities. But also, if you're bringing your Lamborghini
29:39
Miura, you're not having, you know, I'm 22, but you're not having a 20-year-old that just bought
29:43
their first, you know, Mustang, parking it right next to you. Yeah, exactly.
29:47
Yeah, or you're doing donuts in the parking lot.
29:48
Exactly, exactly. So by having, you know, only the cars that are of that, you know,
29:52
quality value in the lot together, I feel like people feel a lot safer bringing their cars out
29:57
in that environment. And that's part of this, the pitch, elevator
30:01
pitch to get them out. But all in all, I mean, everybody's there. Everybody can look at the
30:05
cars. It's not like we have a ticketed area. The event's all free for them.
30:08
And that's a troked off, right? I mean, maybe a display car might be troked off or something.
30:11
Even so, I mean, everything's open. You can walk around. You can take pictures of the cars. I mean,
30:16
you talk to an owner and the owner might let you sit in their car. Absolutely.
30:19
Especially if you're a younger kid showing enthusiasm for it. And, you know, hey, listen,
30:23
we've got to perpetuate this hobby, right? 100 percent.
30:25
Have to. And of course, to see someone of your age group this excited about perpetuating the hobby,
30:30
whether it be pre-war or post-war, it doesn't really matter. It's just perpetuating the,
30:35
listen, cars have become such an integral part of every part of our lives from the early 1900s
30:41
until now. And almost everything you've ever done, a car was associated with it. Somehow,
30:46
some way, a car was involved. And I think that as long as we can continue this, and hopefully,
30:51
we'll continue to see events like this prosper, because they're not cheap to put on. Caviar,
30:57
Service, and, you know, McCall and Von, or Scotch is not cheap to serve. It is not.
31:02
And people, you know, you hope people realize that. And what we want people to realize when
31:07
you come to an event like this is there's other ways to give, too. You can just write a check,
31:12
if you like. You can just say, you know, here's a check for $1,000 that I hope goes towards the
31:16
goodwill of it, because that's what it's all about. I mean, we have some amazing donors that are,
31:20
you know, helping make this event happen. Like you said, it's not cheap to put on an event like
31:24
this. And, you know, we're lucky enough to have amazing sponsors like yourself. We're lucky enough
31:29
to have amazing donors. I mean, the auction is going to bring in money, but also ticket sales.
31:33
And, you know, pushing that, I mean, all of this is run through a 501c3. It's all for charity.
31:38
Nobody's, you know, nobody else is pulling from this. Nobody else is making money.
31:42
Everything after putting on this event, you know, all the costs involved goes directly
31:45
to the kids in need. I mean, that's an amazing, the cool cars for kids is an amazing charity. And
31:50
it's, it's a thing that supports kids who have diseases that are just not fashionable or, you
31:55
know, not something that there's enough people that have it, they can afford to spend the money
31:59
on it. You know, if there's five people in the world that have something, they're not going to
32:03
probably find a cure for that. Like they could find something that has 5000000 people.
32:06
Exactly. I mean, we fund research, we fund, you know, treatments, and I mean, we fund individual
32:11
families. And it's an amazing, amazing cause. And I'm lucky enough to have now joined the board
32:16
as, you know, putting this on. And to hear some of these stories, we have some of the, some families
32:20
that, you know, have children with rare genetic disorders on the board, you know, and talking
32:24
about what's going on. Right. And how they live through this. Exactly. Yeah, it's amazing. So
32:29
the question begs, when are you going to get a real job? Great question. Hopefully never. Well,
32:33
I need to get through this event first. This event, I mean, well, I mean, I love a lot of work.
32:38
It's a lot of work. So I need to get through this first. And then, you know,
32:42
hope you have a good right hand guy, because that's very important when you do these events,
32:45
because they take off quicker than you think and go, uh-oh. We've got a great team behind
32:50
this event. Well, and that's, that's as important as it can be. And the date on this is June 6th
32:54
through the 7th. Correct. And to be held at the Union League in Lafayette Hills.
33:00
Yep. Hills or hill? Hill. I don't know my area. I'm from the city, so.
33:04
And last, last but not least on the, oh, and the website is to further the concours,
33:10
philadelphiaconcours.com. Yep. Cool. You got it. So we'll put that up on the screen. And my last
33:15
question is my favorite question I ask everybody is, what is your daily? What is my daily driver?
33:19
Well, I've been up in Boston for the last, you know, four years, you know, over eight months out
33:23
of the year just going to school. So a van? I'm in the market for a car. I'm gonna,
33:27
hopefully I'm gonna walk around here and purchase something right now, but you know.
33:31
Absolutely. It's a Volvo XC60. Nothing too crazy. It's a nice SUV, daily driver, nothing too crazy,
33:37
but hopefully I'll get into something a little more exotic. Hey, listen, Toby Ross drives a
33:41
minivan. Yeah. You know, and he loves the practicality of it. Exactly. So we do as well too. So,
33:46
Brad, it was wonderful to have you on today. And we'll have one of your cohorts, Trey Dusek.
33:50
Trey Dusek, yeah. We'll be on next week on the Classic Auto Mall show. We'll be back in just a
33:55
couple of minutes. We'll see you then. Now, another Classic Auto Mall show. Here's Stuart
34:00
with Eric Buil of Buil Motorcycles who talks about leaving Harley Davidson, starting his company
34:06
and then receiving a call from his old boss. I made the first Buils that were all on my own.
34:11
Ten years later, Vaughn Buils called me and started talking to him and he goes, well,
34:14
we're interested in buying your company. She said, last year, I went to all the road races
34:19
and I talked to people there and I realized what you were all about. You have a totally
34:23
different mindset. Those people aren't going to buy Harley's. I need a brand that doesn't have to
34:27
run on that cashier, cheaper, more affordable, also sporty, but also stop for entry level riders.
34:33
And I need you to keep the corporation growing. And I went, I'm good.
34:37
Hear more of Stuart's conversation with motorcycle builder Eric Buil in episode 205 from August of
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Morgantown, PA on a sunny 90 degree day outside. Man, it is warmed up. We have certainly gotten
36:01
past the whatever. Going back down to 60 next week. Pennsylvania. Hold on. Tangled up here.
36:06
Tangled up in blue. See, another song we both know and like. Tangled up in blue.
36:10
How about that Brett Mazuro? I tell you, knows a lot about cars, doesn't he? I see a lot of
36:16
similarities between him and Garrett. That younger age, but once you talk to him for a minute,
36:21
you forget how old they are. And not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just,
36:25
it's unusual to see that poised and from a younger person. You don't see it as much anymore. We see
36:32
a lot of people who have no poise and nothing. So, where did we sell cars last week? Where?
36:37
How about Treasure Island, Florida? Florida. Stanhope, New Jersey, Fleetwood, Pennsylvania,
36:42
Levittown, Pennsylvania, Blakesley, Pennsylvania, Collegeville, Pennsylvania, the villages, Florida,
36:47
East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, Keller, Texas, Brick, New Jersey, Hamburg, Pennsylvania, North
36:51
Huntington, Pennsylvania, Preston, Idaho, Coastville, Pennsylvania, eight of our 14, Pennsylvania.
36:56
That's right. And only five states this week in no foreign countries.
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So, looking forward to the Concord elegance coming up. He's putting on at the Union League.
37:05
We were, like I said, we were out there for the Ferrari event. We were out there one time prior,
37:09
and boy, it's a beautiful setting. It's just a gorgeous part of the world. Excuse me,
37:12
I'm going to set the clock. Please do. Well, how do I, what's my factor now?
37:16
A point? Plus one. Plus one? Okay, good to know. So, some of the new arrivals, how about this week?
37:21
The 2021 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody Hard Dopp. Yes. My goodness, that's a lot.
37:27
Cinnamon stick over black, but cinnamon is not spelled with a C, it's with an S.
37:31
That's right. You got to be on top of your game if you're going to fool me.
37:36
2,775 actual miles, 717 horsepower, 6.2 liter supercharged MEV8. This is one bad mofo.
37:45
Yeah, this is a great car. Really just unbelievable with the power on these things. And
37:51
tuned and bigger injectors. The guy got a 717 horsepower engine. This isn't quite enough.
37:56
Not enough. I need just a smidge more. I see that. We see that all the time, don't we?
38:00
Isn't it amazing? With the Z06 we have? With a supercharger, or with a turbocharger,
38:04
or with aluminum this and aluminum. A little more power.
38:07
But what's the difference between 717 and 750 horsepower, say? Could you tell the difference?
38:13
About $2,000 worth of add-ons, I guess. But I mean, could you tell the difference?
38:16
I could. I don't think so. I'd be afraid to floor it. So, but you know, hey, listen, I get it.
38:22
So, each their own. Each their own, and speed is king.
38:24
And somebody will see that online and go, that's exactly what I was,
38:27
I want, and what I was going to do to my car. Like our friend Bruce Meyer, who wanted to go
38:30
to Bono when he wanted to go as fast as he possibly could in a 32 Roadster, and he did it.
38:34
Right. And, you know, to some people, that's crazy, and to other people's that makes,
38:37
other people's that makes perfect sense. So, other new arrivals, the 1937 Pontiac, Silver,
38:43
Streak, Deluxe, four-door sedan, Starlight Blue and Black, seven-year long restoration. Wow,
38:52
when somebody spends that long of time on a restoration, that they're very particular,
38:56
that they're probably doing it mostly in their garage or their shop out back,
38:59
and they're taking their time and doing it right. And it's got a 248 cubic inch L-head
39:04
inline eight cylinder, and 37 and eight cylinder is a big old motor.
39:07
That's right. Smooth.
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Yeah, well-sorted poncho and very plush interior. Other new arrival is the Everyman's 1992 Mazda
39:17
MX-5. Some burst yellow over medium dark gray. You don't see them in yellow very often.
39:21
It's very bright. It's unusual for a Miata. Usually they're red or black or silver.
39:27
We had a Monster Miata here once.
39:28
I think we still have.
39:29
No, we had a Monster Miata. You're exactly right.
39:31
Then we have a Racecar Miata.
39:33
That's right. We have a Climb Miata.
39:35
This one, 30,000 actual miles, garage cap, one of 1500 in Sunburst Yellow,
39:40
1.6 liter double overhead cam inline four, nicely preserved. These are way more fun than you'd
39:47
expect to drive. If you just, if you have any skepticism, go drive one. If your buddy's got one
39:52
or a neighbor or something, go drive them. They are fun, fun, fun. I'm like driving a go-kart.
39:57
So other new arrivals, the 1979 Pontiac Firebird Trans-Am Coupe. Cameo white over Carmine.
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Survivor WS-6 Trans-Am, 400 cubic inch L-78 V8. Numbers matching T10 four-speed manual transmission.
40:12
Got the four-wheel disc brakes, which were always a great option.
40:15
Yeah. And very well-optioned car and lots of documentation on this one. Don't miss this one.
40:22
Quite the one to have. So other new arrivals, the 1967 Chevrolet Corvette convertible.
40:27
Sunfire yellow over black and white. Numbers matching 300 horsepower, 327 V8.
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Window sticker and the tank sticker. Wow, it's amazing that people salvaged that stuff and saved it.
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Other yellow car, very nice.
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And a power glide, a two-speed power glide, which is interesting. And it used to be,
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it was a little difficult to sell a muscle-type car with an automatic transmission, but not so
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much anymore. People were a more enjoyable driving experience when Kathy and I went to
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Rehoboth last weekend and we were going to take the Porsche for kind of one last fling in it.
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Yeah, one last hurrah.
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But I'm glad we didn't. Hope you got caught stuck in traffic. And that manual transmission,
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my left leg would have been, I mean, you get stuck in enough traffic, your left leg is really
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feeling it. So, and this one's got both hard and soft tops, this 67 Corvette convertible and
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very well-optioned. Great car. And last but not least, the 1964 Pontiac Tempest Custom Sport.
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We have two Pontiac Tempest.
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This one's Marimba Red over Marimba.
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PHS documentation, Muncie M24 speed manual. This thing's got to be thrive.
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Hit it. There it is.
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Yeah, 12-bolt axle, very subtle muscle car.
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So fun it led to the GTO, didn't it?
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Yeah, it exactly did. That's exactly what happened. So that's some of our new arrivals.
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If you're interested in those or anything else, classicautomall.com is our website.
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And don't forget, we've got our auction coming up June the 19th at 10 a.m. here at Classic
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Automall. You can bid in person. You can bid online. by telephone.
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And the inventory is online.
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It's online as we speak. So we've got a little bit of inventory, probably 20 or 25 on right now.
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We'll probably end up with about 75 to 100 cars. We're going to serve complimentary breakfast to
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the bidders and consignors. Register to bid. Go online, classicautomall.com or register.
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If you've got a car that you want to bring that's not here, certainly let us know.
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Or if you have a car that is here, you want to put it in the auction, let us know as well.
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Certainly help you with that as well too. We expect this will be, we'll start getting more
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regular on doing these at a consistent timing and give enough notice. We kind of, we didn't rush
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into this one, but it didn't give ourselves quite as much time as we normally do for an auction.
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So, but we'll give it our by golly biking best and hopefully it'll turn out the way we like it
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and we'll sell some cars and feed some people some breakfast and sounds like a good time.
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Sounds like a good time to me. So people in the doors. Yeah, absolutely. We like to do events
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that bring people in the door. And of course, we've got all kinds of events coming up. If you
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get our newsletter, you would have seen that yesterday. Lots of events coming up that are
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here on property and then events that we'll be at, including the Philly Concours at the Union League,
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Golf Course in Lafayette Hill. Oh, we're going to have a set up there. We're going to have a set
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up there. I'm torn. I'm torn. What to do? So, um, so anyway, we've got all that coming
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up and all of this information is on our website. So feel free to go there at any time and it's open
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24 hours a day. What's that? The website? Yeah. So, you know, there's no time. And you get it from
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your phone too, which is pretty amazing. Get it from your phone. A lot of people do that. It's
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amazing how many people are on their phone. It's pretty amazing. So, uh, and joining us next week,
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we'll have another gentleman with us, Tray Dusick, who is a part of the Philly Concours,
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as well. And he'll be joining us, hopefully in person as well too. It's nice to have somebody in
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the studio. Another young up and coming car guy. Yeah. And that's, he comes from a family of car
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guys. His dad, his grandfather, they're all just equal car nuts. And, you know, you love,
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you love that it transcends. Absolutely. We'll catch you next week on The Classic Autumn All
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Show. We'll see you then. And thanks for stopping by.
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