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Thanks for being with us as we bring you the latest automotive information from around
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With me is co-host Chris Teague back with us.
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We're glad about that.
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I'm wondering, Chris, have you seen any effects from the hurricane?
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We actually haven't.
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We're in a big drought right now.
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My grass is very crunchy, but we've been getting a lot of wildfire smoke from Canada and we
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actually have a few of our own wildfires now.
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So how are things on your side of the world?
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Things are pretty good here.
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Plenty of news to talk about in the car world this week.
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Tesla has announced a new model that should shake things up in the crossover EV segment.
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We'll tell you all about it and where it will be available first coming up.
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Acura is set to roll out a refreshed version of its popular Integra premium got-back
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We'll fill you in on the details.
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I'm wondering, Chris, if you are an Integra fan.
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Yeah, I thought so.
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The state of California has just earmarked $55 million for electric vehicle fast charging
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infrastructure and guess where they want to install those chargers?
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We'll have the amusing details on that coming up.
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And Rivian is finally pulling the trigger on a long-delayed $5 billion factory to
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be situated outside Atlanta.
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We'll have details on that too.
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So we have a lot to talk about this week, Chris.
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Is there a story that you find most interesting?
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I always like talking about new and refreshed vehicles, so I'm looking forward to the Tesla
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and the Acura stories today, Jack.
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Yeah, I look forward to talking about that.
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Well, as your longtime listeners of the show know, Chris lives at one end of the country.
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I live at the other.
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And each week we get together to talk about cars, the car industry, and how you can save
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some money on your car.
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Chris, what is your test vehicle this week?
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I spent the week driving the 2025 Ford F-150 Lightning Lariat, and I can't wait to
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tell you all about it.
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I really look forward to hearing about that.
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I've been writing about big full-size pickup trucks, and of course that's an electric one,
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so we'll talk about that coming up.
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My test vehicle this week is the 2025 Genesis G90 All-Wheel Drive with Supercharger.
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I talk about a vehicle with curb appeal.
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This certainly has it, 5,000 pounds of it.
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So I'll tell you about this car coming up.
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Our special guest this week is Megan Jamerusti.
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She is design director at Ford Motor Company.
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She and I had a discussion about the technology offering in the 2025 Ford
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Expedition Full-Size SUV, so look for that.
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We'll be right back right here on America on the Road.
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Welcome back, everybody, to America on the Road, Jack Neurad, and Chris Teague back with
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And it is news time, and plenty of automotive news coming, including Tesla news.
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Always fascinating to hear what's going on at Tesla.
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They're expanding their presence in China, where they already have a giant presence with
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a new six-seat SUV, a new version of their Model Y, the Model YL.
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It's an extended version, as I said, of the Model Y, and it starts around $47,000 there
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I have no idea what Chinese prices are actually like, whether it's very expensive or not expensive
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It's six inches longer than the standard version and adds a third row of seats, an estimated
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range of 467 miles per charge, which is kind of mind-blowing.
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What's your take on all this?
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Well, the first thing is that that range number is on the CLTC cycle, which is what
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China uses to measure their EV range.
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So it's likely much more generous than what the EPA would assign to that vehicle.
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But I think it's interesting to see Tesla trying out some new things in China.
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They're taking a beating from BYD and all the other homegrown brands there.
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And Chinese people love to be driven in larger vehicles, so this kind of caters to that market.
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I mean, I can see them selling a few.
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I don't know if it's going to help them break through the domestic brands there,
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Yeah, it's interesting that they're adding all this extra room for one extra seat,
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But I think in an SUV, you're also getting more room.
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As you mentioned, the EV makers from China are kind of eating Tesla's lunch there.
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Tesla's deliveries in China fell 12% in July.
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That's a big shortfall there, because China is a big part of their sales.
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Tesla's also testing their full self-driving software in China, something we've talked
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Maybe the regulators in China are a little less wary than they are here.
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What's your take on that, Chris?
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Well, that may be a little less wary, but I think the consequences for a mess-up might
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be a little bit steeper there, but who knows?
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Well, let's talk about something maybe a little more positive, although that is positive.
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It'll be interesting when we see that vehicle here in the United States, and I imagine
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Acura's top-selling Sport Compact Sedan is back with somewhat of a refreshed look
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It arrives in dealerships this week.
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It has updated styling, a revised tech-rich quote-unquote interior, pricing that starts
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They've gone to a 9-inch touchscreen as opposed to a 7-inch touchscreen.
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It has wireless Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, and wireless phone charger.
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I think maybe this is one of the big things they're trying to do, a 10.2-inch all-digital
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instrument display.
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Interesting that the instrument display is somewhat larger or wider than the central touchscreen,
08:08
but it looks like tech is something that they're trying to play up in this one, right?
08:13
Yeah, they've done a good job differentiating the Integra from the Civic, and they kept
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the price reasonable, but the Integra's got a little bit nicer interior, and then
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you mentioned the tech features there.
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I can't wait to drive it.
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I like the, I guess it's the same car really, just with new tech now, but I drove
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the previous version and really enjoyed it, so I'm sure this one's more of the same.
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Yeah, the A-SPEC trim should be maybe the zoodiest, neatest.
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It has a new aero body kit, side spoilers, and 18-inch black wheels.
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I hope they're not going to an all-black theme, because I know that.
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They do have different colors, new colors for this year, so that's cool.
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Same kind of performance that you mentioned, 200 horsepower, 192 pound-feet of torque,
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This is one of the few cars where you can still get a six-speed manual transmission.
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That's exclusive to the A-SPEC, with the technology package, and so that's good, adaptive dampers.
09:08
It's got kind of a lot of good stuff for right around $37,000, $38,000, I guess right around
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is, that's a lot of money for a compact sedan, but this is a premium sedan, after all.
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Yeah, if you consider the step-up in price to the Integra Type-S or the Civic Type-R
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I think this feels like a bargain, even though it's not quite exactly cheap.
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Yeah, I mean the Type-S starts at $55,000, around $55,000, so that's a bunch.
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Well, let's talk about what's going on, and I hate to call it my home state, but the
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state in which I live, California, they have earmarked $55 million for more fast
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charging, which I guess is okay, not a bad idea.
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They want to have more infrastructure across the state, of course, this is as EVs are
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maybe becoming less and less popular out there.
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They're offering incentives of up to $100,000 per charging port for businesses and public
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sites who want to install high-speed chargers.
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This is where it kind of comes off the rails to me.
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They're picking reasonable sites, gas stations, parking lot, shopping centers, and convenience
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This is the sentence that really I have to scratch my head over.
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Special priority will be given to tribal lands, low-income areas, and disadvantaged communities
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where charging access is often lagged behind.
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Now I think it's lagged behind in those areas, Chris, because people in disadvantaged
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communities can't afford electric cars, never have, don't have them, so it's
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kind of odd that they would try to put electric vehicle charging stations in these areas.
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It boggles the mind to me.
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Well, I can see maybe the reasoning behind this, right?
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So if you build it, they will come, I guess, but the car is kind of leading the horse
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And as you say, they haven't done anything to address the underlying issue of why
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people aren't driving those cars to begin with.
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Yeah, I mean, I can see why that would cause you some ire.
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If not ire, it's more a head scratcher and kind of indicates what goes on politically
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as opposed to what is market-driven.
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These are underserved areas for EVs because these people can't afford it.
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These people, I'm one of them, I think, who can't afford an EV or afford to operate
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an EV or doesn't want to put up with what needs to be done to do that.
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In any case, let's go on to Rivian.
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They are pulling the trigger.
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I'm really surprised by this on a long-glaed $5 billion electric vehicle factory near
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Atlanta in Georgia.
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It will break ground in 2026 next year, of course.
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And production is set to begin by 2028.
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This is a surprise, you Chris, that now is the time they've decided to do this.
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Well, we knew that they needed this facility to get the new R2 vehicle and the R3 off the
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ground, but we've been hearing about this for several, several years now, and I can't
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say that I expected it to actually move forward.
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This was a project that was originally announced in 2021.
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Then there were delays.
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Certainly Rivian has had its ups and downs as had the whole electric vehicle market.
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And then they have got, and I'm surprised by this too, a $6.6 billion federal loan
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was approved earlier this year.
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And then there are, that's accompanied by $1.5 billion in state and local incentives.
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And this should employ, according to Rivian, 7,500 people when it's finally up and running.
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And it will be up and running, I'm sure.
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But I'm wondering if there will be the commensurate demand for these vehicles that
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the Rivian seems to think there will be.
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Yeah, they've had ups and downs.
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I don't think their vehicles are currently eligible for the quickly to expire,
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soon to expire federal tax credits, but they've done okay selling vehicles at full price.
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I mean, they seem to have a pretty loyal following.
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And then the R2 is going to be allegedly less expensive.
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So I can see this being a worthwhile effort for them.
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However, you know, multi-billion dollar project like this is going to take quite
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a while to pay off and who knows what's going to happen with the demand going forward.
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Yeah, and I think the keys to this are both the federal loans and the local funding that's going into this.
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I think if this were privately financed, you would not see this happening at this time.
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But that's just my take on it.
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So things are already underway.
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It's a 2,000 acre site.
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This is a giant deal.
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I'm just kind of amazed what's going on here.
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Yeah, I really hope that they're able to sustain the volume that they need to support that facility.
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Right. Well, we'll see.
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We certainly will see.
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Remind us of the vehicle you'll be testing this week, Chris.
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I drove the 2025 Ford F-150 Lightning Lariat, and I can't wait to tell you all about it.
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Can't wait to hear about it.
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I will be testing the 2025 Genesis G90 all-wheel drive with the E Supercharger
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vehicle with incredible curb value.
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So stay with us for that.
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We'll be right back to talk about both of those cars, and we'll have much more for you right
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here on America on the Road.
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We're glad you're with us.
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Welcome back, everybody, to America on the Road with Chris Teague.
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And we're so glad Chris is back with us.
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This is Jack Nerad back with you.
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It is our road test segment, and fascinating vehicles to talk about.
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We've been talking a lot about electric vehicles in this show already, but, Chris, you were
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driving a prime electric pickup truck.
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This is an important model for Ford.
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It's the 2025 F-150 Lightning.
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I tested the Lariat model, which is just below the top platinum trim.
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But there are several.
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There are three other trims below the Lariat that are a little bit less expensive.
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So you can get into this truck for around $52,000.
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That's for the base pro trim.
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You get vinyl seats and a vinyl floor, and so a pretty basic experience there.
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My Lariat was around $83,000 after options.
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And you can spend over $100,000 on the platinum with options and stuff too.
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So there's a pretty big price spread here.
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I think $50,000 is pretty broad.
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Jack, what are your thoughts on the Lightning lineup overall?
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I think it's interesting that they have various trims based on the fact that there's
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not, hasn't been a ton of demand, but I think they want to broaden the appeal
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I'm also, I didn't have a chance to talk with you about Ford's Model T moment from a week
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And I wonder how that affects what's going on with these kind of legacy EVs that Ford
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has like the Lightning.
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What are your thoughts on that?
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I think Ford has really never been able to meet the pricing targets that it set
16:16
When it started out, I think we heard it would start at $40,000 and then it immediately
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went to $50,000 and now we're up to $52,000 or $53,000 to start.
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I think that, you know, the Model T moment, the affordable electric truck they're
16:26
talking about coming up with is a big deal for them.
16:29
I don't know what it's going to do to the F-150 Lightning and the Mustang Mach-E.
16:32
I don't think Ford's going to ditch a full-size electric truck, though, but we
16:35
can talk about that on another show.
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This truck, mine had the extended range battery and the upgraded drive train.
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So you get 580 horsepower with 775 pound feet of torque and 320 miles of
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range with all-wheel drive.
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So I can tell you, Jack, that in mixed highway and town city driving, I was
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able to get around 285 miles of range, which isn't terrible, but when you
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consider that if you're going to be towing or if you're going to haul
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anything in the bed of this pickup truck, those numbers are going to decrease
17:04
Granted, I should say this is in the middle of summer, so I'm using the
17:07
air conditioner and the ventilated seats and all the other things there, too.
17:11
But it is worth talking about because I think people look at these range
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numbers and they think, well, I can go 400 miles in my Chevy Silver
17:18
Auto EV, but then you hook up a trailer and you get much less than that.
17:22
What do you think about that?
17:23
Yeah, I think that's very important because these vehicles are used for
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functional purposes, right?
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I mean, you don't buy a pickup truck, maybe some people do, to drive around
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with the bed empty and never tow anything with it.
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Yeah, I guess there are profilers who do that, but most people want to use
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these trucks and when you use them that way, as you mentioned, range goes
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down and that can be an issue.
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It does, but the good news here is that the new truck comes
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with DC fast charging capabilities.
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You can add 65 miles of range in 10 minutes, which is pretty good.
17:54
Inside, as I mentioned before, the Pro model comes with vinyl seats
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and then the XLT has cloth, but my Lariat came with leather.
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We got heated and ventilated front seats.
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Jack, I just want to praise Ford for the size of the interior of these
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trucks. It is very spacious and the Panoramic Sunroof, if I can
18:13
talk, that this truck came with, made it feel very open and airy.
18:17
We can fit six people in here if there were enough seat belts for it,
18:20
but five people can ride safely and comfortably.
18:23
And with four, there's more in the enough room to stretch out here.
18:26
We were able to take my almost 90 pound overweight
18:29
Golden Doodle and all four of us on a hiking trip and had no trouble
18:32
with all of us inside.
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You get a 12 inch digital gauge cluster in the Lariat trim
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with a 15.5 inch touchscreen.
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It runs Ford's Sync 4A software, which is easily one of the best on the market.
18:44
It's got a ton of great features.
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It's very easy to use and navigation is very responsive.
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Jack, what do you think of Sync 4?
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I think Sync 4 is good, but I think Sync 4 is not even the...
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And we will talk later in the show with Megan Jamerusti
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about the Ford's newest system, which supersedes Sync 4.
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So Sync 4 is pretty good, but even Ford is going in a different direction these days.
19:11
Well, the Lariat also comes with a lot of other features,
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wireless Apple CarPlay, a B&O stereo that's bang and Olafson for people
19:17
who are not familiar with the abbreviation.
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And then you get a full suite of safety features here, too.
19:23
So you get blind spot monitoring with rear cross traffic alerts for collision
19:26
warnings and Blue Cruise is available for the pickup truck.
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So you do get a hands free driving system if you want to spend the money for it.
19:33
So, Jack, I've always liked the lightning.
19:35
I think that it's very capable.
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It's comfortable and it looks like a regular truck, which is important to me.
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And I think a lot of other buyers, if I were going for this truck,
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I'd probably opt for the XLT, which is still expensive at around 65 grand.
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But I can't spend I can't justify spending 80,000 on a pickup truck.
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Yeah, it's hard to justify that.
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And really, with the limitations of this vehicle, it's a great vehicle in so
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many ways. And I think for the right people or the right situation,
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let's say you have deliveries to make or you're not making long runs
20:07
in the vehicle, you don't have to tow for any distance, those kind of things.
20:12
It can be terrific, maybe more for commercial vehicle operations, I think,
20:17
than than personal use.
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And then for others, I just think I've got to go conventional here just for the
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utility value. I agree.
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You know, nice try.
20:27
And as I say, cool for the right person.
20:30
Well, I was driving a vehicle that has a lot riding on it.
20:33
It's the Genesis G 90.
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The whole name is the Genesis G 90 3.5 T E supercharged.
20:40
It's the flagship flagship, not flagship sedan of the
20:46
Hyundai's luxury arm.
20:47
And it comes with one mission.
20:49
It's going to challenge the dominance of the industry's most prestigious names.
20:53
Of course, you know what they are.
20:54
Most of them come from Germany.
20:56
I'm not sure whether it 100% does that, but it certainly has presence.
21:01
It has an all wheel drive platform.
21:03
Interesting technology, maybe cutting edge, maybe not quite.
21:07
And this supercharged powertrain is not really supercharged powertrain so much as
21:12
mild hybrid technology, but it sounds a lot cooler to say it's supercharged with
21:16
an E supercharger than it has a mild hybrid, right, Chris?
21:19
It does, but it does feel like it's supercharged.
21:22
So I guess the effect is the same either way.
21:24
Yeah. Usually I don't go heavily into design, but I have to with this
21:30
vehicle because it's a large part of its appeal.
21:34
I think this is just a really good looking vehicle.
21:37
When it is in your driveway, people stop and stare at it in ways that they don't
21:44
You know, I could describe some of the visual things about it, the LED headlamps,
21:50
those kind of things.
21:50
It's kind of like the whole package.
21:53
It really is kind of like having a Bentley or Rolls parked in your driveway.
21:57
I mean, it has that kind of presence on the road.
22:00
It has a long hood, kind of uncluttered, but it has the right amount of jewelry on it,
22:09
What should take on the looks of the G90?
22:12
Yeah, I've said the Genesis vehicles are still the only ones that I've had people
22:15
stop at my house to take pictures of.
22:17
They definitely are eye catching and they make it look way more expensive
22:21
than it actually is.
22:22
Yeah. Let's talk about the powertrain.
22:24
It's not necessarily premium.
22:26
They've gone to a three and a half liter twin turbocharged V6 as their top power
22:33
plant in this with this electric supercharger.
22:35
Again, it's an electric motor.
22:36
It doesn't drive a compressor or add boost to the engine.
22:43
It boosts the engine in a different way.
22:45
It boosts the torque from the powertrain, basically.
22:48
It does eliminate torque gaps and those kind of things.
22:51
Output is 409 horsepower, 400 pound feet of torque, eight speed
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automatic transmission.
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A lot of its competitors have a 10 speed or more full time all wheel drive,
23:01
which works just fine.
23:02
Shift by wire technology and it has adaptive logic.
23:07
I like the driving dynamics of this vehicle.
23:10
There's a lot to like about what this delivers.
23:15
Not super fast, but I would say quick enough, zero to 60 in five point one
23:20
seconds, your thoughts on performance.
23:23
Yeah, my only beef with this vehicle is that it feels heavy.
23:26
You can definitely feel the components that they've added to get the system
23:30
together, but the ride quality is fantastic and it's powerful enough for daily driving.
23:34
It's not really a sports car.
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Yeah, it's not a sports car in any way, shape, or form.
23:38
And really, maybe the best seats in the house in this vehicle are in the rear.
23:43
It doesn't provide all that wonderful in terms of fuel economy.
23:47
17 miles per gallon city, 24 miles per gallon highway and 20 miles per
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gallon combined, despite the fact that it has this mild hybrid system.
23:58
It's kind of like a lounge.
23:59
I mean, the the inside of this vehicle, I mean, certainly Genesis vehicles
24:03
really do it up when they when it comes to the interior.
24:06
And this is that, you know, just the epitome of that Napa leather upholstery,
24:12
open, poor wood trim, my favorite.
24:14
I hate clothes, poor wood trim.
24:18
Suede headliner, it just looks so beautiful inside.
24:22
It really is an amazing interior, super luxury.
24:27
I mean, you and I have both been in roles and and Bentley's.
24:31
And it has that kind of ambiance, I think.
24:34
And the seating in the rear has heated and ventilated power adjustability.
24:39
I mean, these vehicles in a lot of markets are chauffeur driven.
24:43
So the rear passengers probably should be pampered more so
24:47
of the front seat passengers.
24:49
Rear passengers get massage, power, sunshades, entertainment displays.
24:54
I mean, the rear seat is kind of a place to live, isn't it?
24:57
Yeah, my kids are always sad when we have one of these vehicles
25:00
and we have to give it back up and they go back to riding in my non-massaging Toyota.
25:06
I would say the infotainment system is good, but it's not state of the art.
25:10
I mean, the German competitors that, you know, their infotainment systems
25:15
do everything but shine your shoes for you.
25:17
And this doesn't do that.
25:19
I think this is very much like a Hyundai system, right?
25:22
Twelve, twelve point three inch digital instrument cluster
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and a twelve point three inch infotainment screen.
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It all works just fine.
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It's interesting, though, that it still has wired Apple CarPlay
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and Android Auto, something that even Hyundai has got passed
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long since, or maybe not long since, but recently head up display,
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project stuff onto the windshield or out in front of you, like head up displays
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and a bang and all in 23 speaker premium sound system.
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So the sound is is right there.
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This is a vehicle that costs about a hundred thousand dollars.
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So it's it's up there, although I think its competitors from BMW
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and and from Mercedes Benz would probably be more like one hundred and twenty thousand dollars.
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Your quick thoughts on that.
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Yeah, they cost more and the warranty coverage is not as good either.
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Good Genesis has the fantastic ten year,
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a hundred thousand mile powertrain warranty to go with all of that.
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Yes, very good of you to point that out.
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And I wouldn't like to point out who our guest is.
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It's going to be Megan Jamerouste.
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And she'll be talking about sound systems
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and infotainment systems in the New Ford Expedition.
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We're outside Louisville, Kentucky.
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Maybe we're in Louisville, Kentucky, but we're at the Kentucky truck plant
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of Ford Motor Company looking at the 2025 Ford expedition
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that are rolling off the line here.
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We have an expert on tech, Megan Gemerusti is with us.
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Thanks so much for being with us.
28:08
Thanks for having me.
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Thanks for putting up with me, fumbling your name a little bit.
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It may have happened before.
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I'm just guessing, I'm just guessing.
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Check. So critical, right?
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We get into our vehicle.
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The first thing we do is carry our phones and try and make all this stuff happen.
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This is a big change, I think, that we're talking about here
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for the new expedition.
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Yeah, so all new with the 2025 expedition is the Ford digital experience.
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The digital experience is really centered around voice
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and that is enabled through Google Assistant.
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Also, we have Google Maps at the center of both the centers that
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can all display and with our Ford connectivity package,
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we enable a bunch of new apps and streaming apps.
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So we really centered this experience around connecting and being productive.
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You wanted to improve over sync.
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I think it was a long time Ford Motor Company thing.
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This is completely different from that, right?
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Different partner and all of that stuff.
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Yeah. How does the rationale
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of what the thinking was then move to a new part?
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Moving to Google integration, I
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was really centered around the expert, right?
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With Google Assistant, with Google Maps,
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they're experts in those two areas.
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So having a partner made sense.
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Yeah. And avoiding distraction is important.
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And using something like Google Assistant really helps that.
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Walk us through that.
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Yeah. So having a voice first system was important because there are so many
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things that you can just engage with the vehicle, right?
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Hey Google, turn my climate up.
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Hey Google, change the radio station.
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Hey Google, make a phone call.
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So those things really are becoming more natural, especially as the age of our
30:00
buyers decreases, right?
30:01
People are going to be more comfortable with voice assessment.
30:04
Yeah. I mean, a lot of us who use voice control
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early on weren't necessarily thrilled with the experience, right?
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Kind of got turned off by the experience.
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But this is a different experience, right?
30:15
It uses natural speech.
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You don't have to learn stuff to talk to it and make it work.
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Walk us through that.
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That's really, I mean, that's the value of partnering with someone like Google.
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And they're the experts in an assistant technology.
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And what are some of the things you can do with voice assessment?
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Probably pretty much anything, right?
30:37
Walk us through that.
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Yeah, mostly anything with as long as you're subscribed to the Ford Connected
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V package, you can ask Google what's the capital of Kentucky.
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You can ask what the weather is.
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And then even if you're not subscribed,
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things like the vehicle commands.
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So change my client, change my radio station will still be functional.
30:57
Yeah, that kind of stuff is important.
30:59
Yeah. What do you think is
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maybe the most user friendly portion of the system?
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Is it the voice control or are there other factors?
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I think the voice is top of the list for sure.
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Also, I think the panoramic screen and the eyes up and out,
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you kind of have all the information you need right there.
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So while you're driving, you're really not doing that.
31:23
You can you can use your center screen always,
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but the ability to just drive and not really have to do this back and forth.
31:32
Describe the two screens that you have here.
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Sure, we have the 24 inch panoramic screen,
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which is mostly driver information, but also have a widget space.
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So you can put weather there, you can put media there.
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Any of if you're towing, you have towing with you.
31:49
So it's kind of like instrument panel plus, right?
31:53
And it's it's positioned high, which eliminates need for a head up display.
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But it keeps your eyes up.
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Yep. So eyes up and out is really the model and the design principle with the
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panoramic screen. And instead of looking through with steering wheel,
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you're looking over the steering wheel.
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Yeah, describe the steering wheel because it's interestingly shaped.
32:13
Yeah, we probably lovingly call it the square circle.
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But yeah, that the the intent behind the
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different shape is to keep your eyes up and on the road.
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So it's a lower diameter and at the same time, it's going to square it off, right?
32:30
Yeah. So you can see that.
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Is that upper screen a touch screen or is it non touch screen?
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Probably because it's well, yeah.
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But then you have the touch screen that would be kind of down here, right?
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13 inches. 13 inches. Yeah.
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And what's controlled by the touch screen?
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All of your settings.
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The other thing with moving to an Android based system is we now have profiles.
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So each driver can personalize their drive experience from seat adjustments,
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new adjustments to what is shown in that panoramic display beams.
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All of that is personalized.
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So you can connect your profile to either a box or phone as a key.
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If the trim allows for it.
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And that ensures that when you get in the vehicle, your right settings are there too.
33:20
Do you have discrete controls for those kind of things too?
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Or is that all through the things like seat adjustment?
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So seat adjustment, your adjustments are still physical.
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And then also you can move the steering wheel and on some trims, the pedals.
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And that's all done through the steering wheel.
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So you still have pedal movement?
33:38
In some on some trips.
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What do you think having used all the systems probably right?
33:48
What do you think is the coolest feature of this or the biggest advantage versus what you have?
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Integrate like native Google Maps because it is what we probably most of us use daily
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on our phones anyway, integrated into the native system has been a game changer for me.
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I'm not a car play person.
34:09
But we hear a lot of feedback that
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folks that have used the four digital experience have switched from projection to native.
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And having the maps up there when you're when you're driving is really helpful.
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Yeah, right up in your line of sight.
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Yeah, with your turn by turn.
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And I have that in the right side of that thing.
34:34
I don't know about you, but when I'm driving with a head up display,
34:37
I have a tendency to look at the issue.
34:39
I don't know anything.
34:40
Yeah, I mean, it's very logical.
34:46
Gaming is something you've had.
34:49
Yes. And kind of using the car beyond just the vehicle, using the vehicle, right?
34:55
I mean, when you're at rest, you're doing something with it.
34:59
Yeah, so the four digital experience really leans into linger longer.
35:04
So hanging out with your family or friends in the car, as opposed to maybe
35:10
getting out and waiting for practice and or a game to start.
35:15
So the streaming apps really allow for that.
35:18
And then also the gaming.
35:19
So Arcade Sports is something that was launched last week on the four digital
35:24
experience, and that is a multiplayer game to use your device as a controller
35:30
So you can use your essentially your phone as your controller.
35:34
Yeah, instead of you can connect PlayStation controllers to the experience
35:39
of playing different games, but this allows you to just.
35:43
Yeah, I'm not even happy to have that.
35:46
One of the other things you do, too, is you've kind of eliminated kind of you
35:50
have eliminated the rear seat screens and put in a different kind of situation.
35:55
Talk about that in the rationale.
35:57
Yeah, the strategy was really around to bring your own device,
36:00
which I think Justin talked about those clips that you can put on the headrest.
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And so that's that's really the reasoning behind it, right?
36:10
To allow for multi device.
36:13
Yeah. And we all like our own devices rather than kind of learning something
36:16
in the car and carrying it around with you.
36:18
Yeah, you don't have to re-log in very much.
36:21
Talk about connectivity and, you know, what's going on there.
36:25
I think a lot of car companies early
36:27
on thought that there's a profit opportunity and we're going to have tears
36:33
and go a other way with it.
36:36
Maybe a consumer acceptance hasn't been all that all that strong for that.
36:41
But, you know, talk about your thoughts on that and what what Ford is doing in that.
36:46
Sure. So with the expedition, we've launched the Ford connectivity package,
36:52
which does enable all of the streaming access to play store and to download
36:56
additional apps like video and Macs.
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But also with the Ford connectivity package, we've added hotspots so in the vehicle,
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you can add up to 10 devices, which is we feel a much better experience
37:12
because previously you had to go to AT&T to enable that service.
37:17
So you can kind of find that there are.
37:20
Yeah, there's different offers.
37:23
It's free for a while, right?
37:25
Yeah, if you don't add it to the purchase at the dealership,
37:30
you can activate a one year free.
37:33
And tears, I imagine, still a kind of service.
37:37
No, there's only one one.
37:39
Yeah, I don't know the exact price.
37:42
OK, that might be some material somewhere.
37:45
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, there's a monthly option.
37:48
OK, a monthly and an annual.
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And then a one time.
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Yeah, it's part of the problem.
38:01
As you go forward, you can probably add stuff to this, right?
38:04
I mean, talk about that a little bit or how valuable.
38:08
Yeah, the idea is that we can continuously improve not only the experience,
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but add new features for software updates.
38:25
A lot of times over the year updates
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are a little difficult for people to understand.
38:33
Is there a way to make that clear to folks?
38:37
So right now we have a software updates app in your vehicle where you can see,
38:41
you know, are you on the latest software that's been deployed to your
38:44
vehicle? We also have added some more information in the forecast mobile
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app about software updates.
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But it's pretty it's pretty simple.
38:54
You put turn automatic on, set a schedule and it updates while you're sleeping.
38:59
Because you're you're wired.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, the car is talking to Ford.
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Are there other things that you could add to the vehicle?
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Are there is there an idea of,
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you know, presenting things that can make the car more useful or adding
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which I've seen other manufacturers, for instance,
39:20
suggest that they can add horsepower
39:23
with an over the year update, that kind of thing.
39:25
Is that beyond your purview?
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Definitely, definitely beyond the screens in the pixels that I deal with.
39:33
So I don't have no any plans to add additional horsepower to the mission.
39:38
But the nice thing is we can add more apps, both through software updates
39:43
and also through the Google Play Store.
39:45
OK, anything else you'd like to add about the vehicle?
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I think I think you're really going to enjoy driving it.
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Yeah, thank you so much.
39:59
And that was Megan Jamerusty.
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She's design director at Ford Motor Company talking about the new infotainment
40:05
system in the new Ford Expedition, their full size SUV.
40:10
It's interesting that they have gone away
40:13
from Sync 4 and actually gone to a new vendor.
40:17
They're they're using a Google based system.
40:22
And you heard her rationale for that.
40:24
I think it's interesting that they've gone in this direction.
40:27
Chris, you just experienced Sync 4 in the Ford Lightning.
40:32
Tell us your thoughts about all this.
40:34
Well, one of the things that I complain about with all infotainment systems
40:37
and Sync 4 is not unique to that is that automakers are packing all of the vehicle
40:42
controls into the touchscreen now and the F-150 Lightning absolutely does that.
40:47
I think if you're going to do that,
40:48
then the system behind it has to be almost flawless.
40:51
It has to operate perfectly in almost all situations and Sync does a good job.
40:55
But I can see wanting to kind of improve that
40:57
with the added features and Google built in as a good step forward for them.
41:01
So I'm looking forward to trying it.
41:03
Yeah, it seems like Google built in is getting to be the de facto standard
41:07
for this in a lot of manufacturers, although heaven knows a bunch are going to it
41:13
away from their homegrown systems or systems with a different vendor.
41:16
I think it was Microsoft that was teamed with Ford for Sync.
41:20
Yeah, I think the automakers wanted to hold on to control of those systems.
41:23
They wanted the money.
41:24
They wanted their driver's data and all those things.
41:26
But I think a lot of them quickly realized that making a usable,
41:30
intuitive interface is a lot more difficult than they thought to start.
41:33
When we come back, it will be listener question time as we finish up the show for
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this week. So stay with us and we'll be right back right here on America on the road.
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Welcome back to America on the Road with cohost Chris Teague.
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This is Jack Neerad with you.
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It is listener question time as is our want in the final segment.
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Is there a way I can boost fuel economy without changing how I drive?
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Interesting last take there.
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Gee, Louis, I was going to say the best way to do it is to modify how you drive.
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Look, I don't think there's a lot of ways that you can get around this.
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Your behavior is going to be one of without
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You can save fuel, I would say.
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Jack, I can't think of any other ways other
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than modifying your behavior to save fuel unless you want to switch cars.
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