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01:39
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Now, True V4 Supercharger production is beginning.
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A new Tesla Supercharger site in Campbell, California has started construction and is
02:02
one of the first True V4 installations, a filing permit found by Marco RP on Twitter.
02:08
In February, shows the site will have two V4 power cabinets.
02:13
Now, let me explain what True V4 is all about in case you're new to the podcast or just
02:18
not a charging nerd.
02:20
The cabinets are those often grey or beige colored things that they sometimes put behind
02:27
fences or trees, but you'll see them a little bit away from the actual chargers at most
02:33
So, the V4 power cabinets are 1.2 megawatts each, and then the stalls or dispensers as
02:39
they're sometimes called, there's 16 of those, and they have a peak stall output of 500 kilowatts
02:45
Now, until this point, we haven't had those two things coming together.
02:50
Early permit filings for the V4s appeared, including a pre-assembled V4 system in Richmond,
02:57
The Campbell site appears to be the first currently under construction and likely the
03:02
Tesla had planned to deploy the first True V4 sites back in the beginning of Q3 this
03:09
The V4 power electronics cabinet is a change from the V3s.
03:14
A single V4 cabinet will deliver 1.2 megawatts of power, but it will dynamically allocate
03:20
the power across eight stalls.
03:23
And so, with individual stall capacity up to 500 kilowatts, not all vehicles can take
03:29
And if you do find a vehicle that can go pretty high in terms of its charge rate, it's going
03:35
to ramp down anyway as the charge goes in.
03:37
And so then it's able to dynamically adjust the power that goes to every EV on those eight
03:44
V3 cabinets supported four stalls and could deliver up to 325 kilowatts if paired with
03:51
V4 dispensers, 250 kilowatts if paired with V3s.
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And there's been all sorts of permutations, there's sort of been V3.5 versions.
04:02
So what we've been waiting for is not only the nice new tall dispensers with the long
04:07
cables, so if you're driving a non-Tesla and charging at a supercharger, you're not blocking
04:11
stalls, and lots of people feel passionately about that.
04:14
They're like, well, if Tesla didn't want us to charge there, then don't open it up.
04:17
And I'm sorry, my charge port's on the wrong side.
04:20
I still think if we can make life good for everybody, which is parked sympathetically
04:24
and not block, I'll still call it that, two spaces.
04:28
So a Tesla can't charge, it's good to be a good person, right?
04:31
And so the long cable sought that problem out anyway.
04:35
And with true V4s, Tesla will match the competitors on voltage.
04:38
So it's a thousand volts and on peak power level, Tesla can supply the same V4 systems
04:44
to third-party businesses as well, kind of white label them if you like.
04:48
That's really, really good news.
04:50
Been a long time coming, hasn't it?
04:52
And so Tesla, a little bit behind the curve on charging.
04:55
And for a long time, they led the way.
04:57
And now China, to an extent, has, and even other companies, you know, like the, some
05:02
of the, what is it, the Alpetronics are doing for 500 kilowatts.
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Maybe on a single cable.
05:08
And so great to see Tesla kind of catching up and providing big power.
05:14
Now a new Angus Reed Institute poll finds 57% of Canadians support reducing
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Canada's 100% tariff on Chinese made EVs.
05:23
If it secured relief from China's new big tariffs on Canadian canola, 24% said
05:27
they would prefer to keep the current tariffs.
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The Angus Reed Institute, the non-profit think tank said these priorities are
05:33
contentious, the canola market is vital.
05:37
To places like Saskatchewan, Alberta and Manitoba, with $14.5 billion in exports
05:43
last year alone, the EV market has received billions in federal funding as a
05:49
Regionally, support was strongest in those areas that affected by the canola
05:57
67% of NDP voters and 64% of liberals support reducing, not eliminating, but
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the language of this is reducing.
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That could of course mean reducing to 0%, but it could mean reducing to a
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52% of conservative voters also supporting it as well, by the way.
06:16
So yes, a little bit along party lines, but clearly the majority of Canadians
06:20
there say we'd like to pay a little bit less and get some Chinese EVs in the
06:25
Volvo EX90 is being upgraded.
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So the vehicle was meant to make Sweden a leader in software defined vehicles.
06:33
Instead, it did have some software problems that led in some cases to owners
06:40
doing lawsuits and things.
06:41
A Reddit forum filled with reports of early software bugs and consumer reports
06:47
went in pretty heavily on the Volvo EX90.
06:50
So Volvo have sorted it for the model year 2026 big upgrade, huge new
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hardware, new software, a new electrical architecture and extra features.
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The electrical system goes with 800 volts architecture, enabling faster
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Volvo says the EX90 adds 155 miles or 250 kilometers in 10 minutes.
07:13
The vehicle's central computing platform has been completely upgraded to an NVIDIA
07:17
drive, AGX, orange based core computer with more capable AI and a new software
07:24
The model year 26 EX90s will be factory equipped with this new computer.
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Owners of the model year 2025 can receive the upgraded computer free of charge,
07:35
though, via a scheduled service centre visit.
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We don't see that happening in many places in China where the breakneck
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speed of releasing vehicles is work.
07:46
It makes everyone dizzy.
07:47
Frankly, you know, people are buying cars that are pretty new six months on the
07:51
market and then the car makers are releasing new versions.
07:55
Quite famous example over the summer has been the NEO ES8 on its third revision
08:00
already in no time, and people were spending big money on that vehicle.
08:04
It's a Range Rover equivalent in China, but with NEO battery swapping and things.
08:09
And then they overnight made it 10 grand cheaper, completely redesigned it.
08:13
The third version is utterly brilliant.
08:16
And those buyers are like, do I get compensated?
08:20
No. So Volvo, that's a real solid.
08:24
They're doing their customers there.
08:26
However, this is a vehicle that is heading towards a hundred thousand dollars.
08:30
I don't know, maybe more depending on why you spec it.
08:33
So taking big risks is always the stakes are higher, aren't they?
08:39
Now, they did this with the Volvo EX30.
08:41
They rushed it to an extent to market and fixed it when it was on the market,
08:46
which is fascinating because Tesla do that and you talk to Tesla owners
08:49
and they go, well, this is terrible.
08:51
That doesn't work. This isn't ready.
08:52
The windscreen wipers don't work.
08:54
And you go, oh, it sounds awful.
08:55
And Tesla owners say, no, this is the best car I've ever driven.
08:58
Like they have so much love and patience for the brand.
09:01
Not so much recently, but certainly in the past.
09:05
Whereas Volvo tried it and Volvo owners were like, I want it to be ready now.
09:09
And so that's one thing on the EX30, on the EX90.
09:14
And just little things like taking away the rear passenger window switches
09:19
to save, I don't know, like a dollar fifty or something.
09:22
Little decisions like that, a ninety or a hundred thousand dollar car.
09:27
Well, they kind of hit home a little bit differently
09:29
because your monthly payments are a little bit different, right?
09:32
So it's always going to be a little more difficult
09:36
if you aren't ready with a premium vehicle.
09:39
Twenty twenty six looks completely sorted.
09:42
A new real time safety alerts for when the roads are slippery, hazards
09:45
and accidents ahead, along with software and feature updates as well.
09:48
And that's good because the ES 90.
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That's the saloon that's coming, had all this.
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And I was really surprised when they unveiled the ES 90 recently
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on the 800 volt platform with all the new tech.
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But then they got the EX 90, which is the SUV equivalent of the ES 90
10:07
sitting on the old platform, really pleased.
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Obviously, you know, this decision was taken a long time
10:12
before the change of CEO at Volvo, because these things have long lead times.
10:15
Really, really pleased to see them upgrading that EX 90.
10:19
Potential to be a fabulous vehicle once it gets past those early teething troubles.
10:24
And I think lots of the original owners getting new hardware,
10:27
getting new computers like Tesla's done in the past.
10:30
That's going to go a really long way to to fixing any anything
10:34
that was needing to be fixed there in terms of customer relationships.
10:37
Now, California is opposing an EPA rollback and revises their review plan.
10:44
On September 22, Governor Gavin Newsom sent a letter to the US EPA
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opposing the administration's proposal to change national climate
10:53
and clean air standards, saying it would weaken state and local efforts
10:57
to meet emissions targets and it raises public health risks.
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Newsom is withdrawing an earlier commitment to create a state level
11:06
supplement to the federal electric tax credit.
11:10
We're talking about that yesterday on the podcast.
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Rather, California will pursue other measures
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like spending public money on charging infrastructure.
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I'm 100 percent behind that.
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Don't give people money off cars.
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They'll buy the car or they won't buy the car.
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But create the ecosystem.
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Well, now you're talking.
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California is acting as a counterweight to federal policy
11:28
by advancing its own climate measures.
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Recent steps include expanding zero emission vehicle requirements
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for manufacturers, funding pilot programs to speed clean transportation adoption
11:37
in heavy duty fleets and working with utilities and private partners
11:41
to extend EV charging corridors.
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Let's go down under.
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Australia is funding 10,000 public EV charges.
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I love stories like this so much.
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Australia's federal government has committed 40 million Aussie dollars,
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about 26.4 million US to speed up electric vehicle charging rollout,
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targeting 10,000 new public charges nationwide.
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Funding is part of the transport and infrastructure net zero roadmap
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and supports the country's legislated emissions reduction goals
12:09
of 43 percent below 2005 levels by the end of this decade.
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I want to go net zero by 2050.
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I mean, I can't believe we're talking about 2050.
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Oh, I hope I'm still around in 2050.
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That's the plan anyway.
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Look, I know that is the blink of an eye in terms of national
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international policy and all these kind of things.
12:30
But 2050 to clean up the air that we breathe seems an awfully long time away.
12:36
Like, can we not do it quicker?
12:39
Can we say something like what are you doing someday?
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Can we get it done by then?
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I don't know. I think 2035 is is obviously a stretch goal,
12:47
maybe somewhere between those two things.
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But you've got to you've got to take.
12:51
What is it they say?
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Moonshots because I know I'm going to attribute this to completely
12:57
the wrong person, but it's probably a famous phrase.
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Anyway, you know, you'll miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take.
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So let's aim for clean air early.
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And if we get 95 percent of the way there, that's not a failure.
13:11
That's well, we got most of the way there.
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That's good for the air that our kids breathe.
13:15
Right. The investment in Australia is part of a broader charging infrastructure
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strategy called Driving the Nation Fund, which is about half a billion Aussie dollars in that.
13:26
So putting in public fast charges on key highway routes is where they're spending the money.
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I've got another Aussie story right now, but we're going to take a break.
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And I'll be back in a couple of seconds to finish off the podcast today.
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All right, welcome back to the podcast.
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Second Australian story today, independent modeling by the Magenta
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Advisory and Pragmatic Policy Group, once again, echoing what we've talked about
13:52
before on the podcast, and that is the danger of getting rid of the fringe
13:56
benefits tax, the FBT in Australia that exempts battery electric vehicles.
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And also they want to bring it back for plug-in hybrids.
14:04
And so this is a topic that's going on down under right now.
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The research estimates that the EV discount has produced a net return
14:10
of two dollars twenty five in the environmental and economic and health
14:15
benefits for every dollar spent to date.
14:18
That's going to rise by three to three dollars a return on every dollar spent by 2030.
14:24
And so between twenty twenty two and twenty
14:27
twenty four, the exemption is estimated to have added 105,500 new
14:31
Bebs and plug-in hybrids to Australian roads.
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EV sales have been growing in Australia after a slow start.
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Now a ton of vehicles coming from China.
14:41
Obviously, there was a bit more of a proximity issue there as well.
14:44
But getting a bunch of stuff that the rest of us don't get yet.
14:49
And if the FBT exemption continues past its due expiration date for Bebs and
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restored for plug-in hybrids, this modeling projects an additional
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1.5 million EVs on the road in Australia.
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Very, very important to think about the best way to spend money and public
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money and policy and stuff like that.
15:09
Now, let's talk about our final Aussie story to date.
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And that is origin, partnering with BYD and Star Charge to run a trial on Australia's
15:20
first EV subscription that includes a bidirectional charger and free home charging.
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Bidirectional charging lets a vehicle draw power, but also send it back.
15:30
The service will use Origins Virtual Power Plant in Australia to automate charging.
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Drivers will plug in and the system will decide and manage charging and discharging patterns.
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If you are in the trial, the automated setup will provide a free home charger.
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And an estimated they say about 15,000 or 25,000 kilometers of free miles per year.
15:54
The EV Council estimates a typical Australian driving 12,000 kilometers a year
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spends about five hundred dollars annually on electricity with an EV tariff or two
16:05
and a half thousand annually fueling with a petrol car based on those figures.
16:09
Free home charging in the trial would save you a lot of money.
16:13
If you're an EV driver, if you're a combustion car driver, saving you two and
16:15
half grand a year, origin is taking expressions of interest for the trial.
16:19
Now it starts next year and they'll do the first 50 customers.
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I mean, all these little trials are going on.
16:25
I know it's essential to do, but the car that you get, by the way, is a BYD Ato
16:30
three and a star charge V2G charger.
16:35
But these trials have been going on for years and we just need to come on,
16:38
you know, pick up the pace a little bit, learn what we can.
16:41
I say we smart people to learn the smart things they need to.
16:45
And then we can all start doing funky things with the grid.
16:48
Persho have updated the battery in the E three,
16:53
008 and five, 008 with vehicle to load and proper battery preheating as well.
16:58
This is the STLA medium platform.
17:01
And so, yeah, that battery preconditioning is really important.
17:05
Vehicle to load as well.
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V2L lets external devices draw power.
17:09
It's not full vehicle to home.
17:11
But if you have something that takes up to three kilowatts,
17:14
maybe a camping weekend, tools, you're going to go to the beach and
17:20
blow up some beach tools or something with beach toys rather with
17:25
not just a little 12 volt cigarette lighter, but something a bit more chunky.
17:29
Well, that's where vehicle to load is really, really good.
17:31
And of course, if you get a power cut,
17:33
well, it keeps your freezer from going off, doesn't it?
17:36
Battery preconditioning, on the other hand, is really, really important.
17:39
I think essential these days to any properly designed electric powertrain.
17:45
Preconditioning can start automatically when you plan a journey.
17:48
The system begins heating as the car nears the plan charging stop.
17:53
The driver can also start battery
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heating through a manual touchscreen option as well.
17:58
And you can use those functions in the my
17:59
Persho smartphone app if you want to.
18:03
Now, Tesla in Canada is offering some really good
18:07
incentives and bonuses.
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If you pick up a Tesla very soon,
18:11
Tesla Canada offering buyers of a new model three, either lifetime free
18:16
supercharging or five thousand dollars off, I'll take the five grand.
18:21
I'll take it now, please.
18:23
Although lifetime free supercharging,
18:26
what is it linked to the vehicle like the old days or to your Tesla account?
18:30
Link it to the vehicle and that could do huge things for resale.
18:35
I suspect it'll be linked to you
18:38
provided the vehicle is delivered by, well, the next seven days.
18:42
This is the traditional end of quarter push.
18:45
They're hitting their targets.
18:47
So what would you take the five grand off or the free supercharging?
18:49
Well, I don't really do any miles anymore.
18:51
So I have five grand off a Tesla model three, please.
18:53
The incentive applies to new model three units in Canadian inventory.
18:58
But there's plenty of those by the look of it.
19:00
If you want to get a car in the next week or you got your finance ready to go,
19:05
Tesla's share of the EV market in Canada has fallen
19:08
from 46 percent only a couple of years ago down to 7.8 percent in recent months.
19:16
As you know, they had a wobble in Canada.
19:19
If Mr. Musk could stay out of politics.
19:21
Hey, he's right to do whatever he wants with his life.
19:24
But I think Canadians would quite like that as well.
19:27
And we can all get on with our lives.
19:28
Now, South Africa's power utility,
19:30
Escom has signed an agreement with BYD to explore collaboration
19:34
on EVs and infrastructure.
19:36
Escom is supporting the launch of the BYD Dolphin Surf in South Africa,
19:40
describing the vehicle as a compact, affordable EV that's a big milestone
19:44
in the country's transition to sustainable transport.
19:49
They put 20 EVs and 10 charging stations into the service of internal use
19:53
at the company to work out how it's used under the new agreements.
19:57
BYD and Escom will explore a way to support South Africa's move to decarbonise.
20:04
Now, Toyota is saying that electric vehicles represent less than a third
20:08
of new car sales in Australia over the next five years.
20:12
The comment came a media event for the new Toyota Land Cruiser.
20:16
And this is Sean Hanley, who is Toyota's vice president of sales, marketing and
20:22
franchise. So the quote he said was and I quote,
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do we think EVs will play a role 100 percent?
20:31
But they are not going to be 80 percent of the market in three to five years.
20:35
In my opinion, maybe 30 percent, maybe a bit more.
20:40
But that's about where it will sit.
20:43
So maybe he's talking about probably that Toyota share of the market,
20:47
which makes sense because Toyota haven't got anything to sell you.
20:49
So why would their market be 80 percent EV when they haven't got any?
20:54
Whereas if he's talking about the market of cars saying it's impossible.
20:59
Again, probably specifically Australia,
21:01
because let's remember the numbers aren't in yet.
21:04
But September is heading towards 60 percent
21:07
EV in China, the world's biggest car market for the month that we're in at the
21:12
minute, that's millions of pure electric vehicles being sold in China.
21:18
So the Chinese, you know, respectfully disagree with Toyota.
21:22
Again, Toyota has got nothing to sell the Chinese.
21:24
They've got some curiosities, but really they have no market there.
21:29
The remarks preceded the Australian
21:30
federal government's climate target announcement.
21:33
Toyota describing their strategy as the multi pathway approach.
21:37
And well, who the heck cares?
21:38
Because Toyota is making a ton of money and at the minute the hybrids suit them.
21:43
As long as they stop talking down pure
21:46
Bevs, I don't really mind what they do, they can crack on.
21:49
It's only when they put out misinformation and disinformation about pure
21:53
electric cars that, as you know, tend to get a little bit worked up about.
21:58
Because if you don't like something, just leave it alone.
22:00
I mean, don't tear all the people's buildings down.
22:03
If you don't want sprouts on your table on Christmas, just don't put them on your
22:07
plate. So, you know, we all like different things and Toyota don't like pure Bevs.
22:11
That's absolutely fine.
22:12
But spend a ton of money anti advertising against them.
22:17
We can all crack on with our happy little lives.
22:20
Now, Dodge Daytona reviews have been the topic of conversation lately because
22:25
one of them got a ticket for being too loud because he didn't have a muffler.
22:30
Not a phrase that we use silencer maybe or back box, we would say.
22:34
But the story's now come out.
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It's fascinating, actually.
22:37
This is via CBSNews.com.
22:39
They caught up with the guy who got the ticket.
22:41
His name is Mike and he along with his five
22:44
mates from his car club were in downtown Stillwater heading back to Minneapolis
22:50
and St. Paul, their group of six cars stopped at a traffic light across from a
22:54
gas station, the light turned green and the owner said, here I am at the back of
22:58
the line and make my way to the front, the light turns red.
23:01
So I stop a Minnesota State Patrol Trooper driving the opposite way,
23:06
stopped at the light.
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The State Trooper looked at me, I looked at him and as he drives by,
23:12
he flips, pulls me over and he was driving the new
23:16
Mike here, we're talking about the Dodge Daytona electric.
23:18
It has what's called the Fratsonic chambered sound mechanism.
23:22
You can make it rev like a car, but you have to be in park to do that.
23:27
And the officer gave him a ticket for driving a vehicle that was too loud.
23:31
He said he did try to explain to the officer that there is an external speaker
23:37
that you can use to rev the engine, but he wasn't doing that because there is no
23:42
engine. However, the officer still continued to issue citations.
23:46
Mike says, no problem.
23:48
He will go and mention it to the judge when he gets called into court.
23:52
Hopefully the officer will be there on the day as well.
23:54
He can look him in the eye and say, don't give tickets to electric cars for not
23:59
having the correct combustion silencing equipment.
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However, what's interesting?
24:04
It seems like it's a different system, perhaps where he is in the Washington
24:09
County court system. The ticket would show up on like an online system.
24:14
And Mike said that he got the ticket in June.
24:16
And even now he is waiting for it to appear to have been filed at the police's end.
24:23
You know what? What happened there?
24:24
The guy's gone back to the police station and said what he did.
24:28
The other girls and guys he works with have gone, you absolute idiot.
24:31
That's an electric car.
24:33
It doesn't make noise.
24:34
And he's gone, right?
24:35
Well, I'll rip that one up and not enter it into the system.
24:39
I suspect Mike will never hear anymore about this.
24:44
And finally, Exxon has announced it's developed a graphite molecule
24:48
that could extend an EV's battery by 30 percent of its lifetime.
24:54
The chief exec said several electric vehicle manufacturers are now testing
24:58
So it does seem like the real deal because it's not just a hey, we've done a thing.
25:02
It's a hey, we've done a thing and the car makers are interested.
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The announcement followed the acquisition of Superior Graphite, a synthetic graphite
25:10
maker. Exxon said the takeover was to complement the planned entry into the
25:14
battery, anode and graphite market.
25:17
The company said synthetic graphite is used in EV batteries and battery storage
25:21
systems being a game changer.
25:24
Easier to produce and mine the natural graphite.
25:27
It's cheaper and more consistent in quality.
25:29
This move builds on Exxon's
25:31
kind of move into mining and minerals.
25:34
Lithium mining in 2023, they want to produce Lithium in Arkansas,
25:38
targeting Lithium production in 2027.
25:42
I've said this a million times on the podcast.
25:44
Oil companies don't get rich by being stupid.
25:47
And so Exxon know how to make money.
25:49
And if there's money in the EV sector and there's no money anymore in
25:53
when all the oil is out of the ground, then they're smart kids.
25:56
They know how to make money.
25:58
So I don't think they're absolutely going home every night going, yes,
26:01
you know, we love burning oil and stuff.
26:03
They're just good at making money and they're good at being in business.
26:07
And so if that means you can make money out of EVs,
26:09
I think we'll see more investment.
26:10
Some of the oil companies and petrol companies have pulled back a little bit
26:13
this year, closing down, charging network investment and things like that.
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But I think it's a real short term
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blip by these companies that have got pretty big balance sheets and can afford
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