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Pit Road
Pit Road is the special lane on a race track where teams pull in to work on the car. When it’s open and how fast you can get in and out can change your race plan.
Term
quickie yellow
A “quickie yellow” is a short safety slowdown in the race because of something on track. Teams try to pit during it because stopping costs less time when everyone is going slower.
Term
caution
A caution is when the race slows down because there’s a problem on the track. Drivers have to be careful, and teams can sometimes pit during that slower period.
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pit calls
Pit calls are the decisions about when to pull into the pits. The crew chief chooses the moment based on things like fuel, tires, and race slowdowns.
Term
crew chiefs
The crew chief is the team’s main strategist. They decide things like when to pit and help guide the driver’s plan during the race.
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pothole issue
A pothole issue refers to a track surface defect that can jolt or damage a race car’s suspension, tires, or underbody. Even a brief hit can cause measurable damage that affects handling and may require repairs or changes to the car’s setup.
Term
17 car
“17 car” just means the race car with the number 17. When something happens, they use the number to say which car was affected.
Term
truck race
A “truck race” means the event’s race category uses race trucks instead of cars. The cars handle a bit differently, so they talk about issues separately for that race.
Car
Mazda Miatas
The Mazda MX-5, or Miata, is a small two-seat convertible made for driving for fun. It’s known for being light and easy to handle, so people often use it for track days or casual racing games. That’s likely why it was mentioned when talking about running multiple cars together.
Term
i ratings
“iRatings” are iRacing’s skill numbers. They’re used to match you with other drivers who are roughly at the same level.
Term
I race
“I race” here means they’re racing in iRacing, a racing video game/simulator. They’re talking about how they did in those online races.
Term
cold tires
Cold tires are tires that haven’t warmed up. When they’re cold, they don’t grip as well, so the car can feel slower or harder to control until they heat up.
Car
virtual Miata's
A Miata is a small, fun Mazda roadster. Here they’re talking about racing it in a video game, not in real life, but the same driving ideas like grip and staying calm still apply.
Term
qualifying
Qualifying is when drivers try to set the fastest lap before the race. Your qualifying result decides where you start, like whether you’re on the front row.
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front row
The front row means starting at the very front of the race, in the first two spots. It’s a big advantage because you’re less likely to get trapped behind other cars.
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shift down
Shift down means moving to a lower gear. It helps the car respond better when you need more control or acceleration coming out of a slower part of the track.
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chicane
A chicane is a tricky part of the track with quick, tight turns meant to slow you down. It’s easy to get your line or speed wrong there, which can lead to hitting barriers.
Term
stage points
Stage points are points awarded to drivers based on their finishing position during designated segments (“stages”) of a race. In NASCAR-style formats, scoring stage points early can improve a team’s strategy and help them position themselves for the overall race outcome and playoff implications.
Term
road courses
A road course is a race track with lots of turns and braking, not a simple oval. It’s usually harder on tires and brakes, so driving technique matters more.
Term
motors
“Motors” here means the engine(s) in the race car. If they’ve had multiple motors, it usually means they’ve had to swap or deal with engine problems during the season.
Concept
most improved road course racer in the series
They’re basically saying the driver has gotten a lot better on road-course tracks. It’s about improvement over time, not just one good race.
Term
rear tires
“Rear tires” are the tires on the back of the car. In racing, they’re crucial for grip, and if they wear out quickly, it usually means the car isn’t balanced right.
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tire wear
“Tire wear” means how much the tire gets used up while the car is running. Racers watch it because worn tires lose grip and can make the car harder to drive.
Term
practice
“Practice” is the time before the main event when drivers test the car. They use it to see how the tires act and to prepare for tomorrow.
Term
rubber
Here, “rubber” means the tire material that gets left on the track. Where that rubber builds up, the track can get grippier, which affects how fast and stable cars feel.
Term
F1 track
They’re comparing the track surface to what you often see in Formula 1. It means the tires are leaving rubber in the driving line, which changes grip and how the car feels.
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I'm still sour, man, that I wasn't your best man at your wit.
When will you start mentally, like, getting ready for the race?
Can you not tell I'm mentally ready?
What kind of question is that?
What do you mean, what kind of question is it?
I'm mentally prepared.
Probably go watch last year's race there or a recent race.
Oh.
And just kind of see how they race and how they drive.
That's just what I call preparing.
Travis has some dumb ideas, but I agree with him on this one.
This is the most fun I've had in this chair
in the last hour and a half.
Yes, this is more fun.
Doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about.
You haven't scratched the surface yet, no, boy.
I forgot what a wild menace I was.
Well, I would agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.
I mean, what the f**k do you want?
I just think the last few laps, it was just, like, stop every time.
You're picky.
This ain't walking in and have it your way, mother f**ker.
All right, the St. Berger King.
Travis is like, you're at the same.
They don't have no fun right now.
Finally.
Man, this is a, we've been waiting around to get this started.
Without a rally race going so long,
thank you all for being patient.
Thank you all for hanging out and still being here tonight.
So this is another episode of the Dale Jenner
Download of Special Edition here in San Diego.
And I want to thank Arby's and obviously the Navy.
Arby's and the American Navy are partnering together
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I've been over there a couple times.
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I've worked with the Navy for years.
They sponsored race cars for junior motorsports years ago.
And so take that, take that very seriously.
And it was a great relationship that we have with them.
I want to mention on stage with me is TJ Majors,
Freddie Kraft, and Carson Hosebar, the hurricane.
We're very, very thankful to have TJ, Freddie, and Carson
with us.
Those guys all have full-time jobs.
And they've volunteered their time to be with us tonight.
And we just had a pretty action-packed O'Reilly race.
And we're at the new racetrack.
I mean, there's a lot to talk about with that.
Not sure exactly where to begin.
But I think I'm a little bit concerned for tomorrow.
I expect the Cup guys to keep it a little cleaner, for sure.
They make way less mistakes.
But I don't know, judging off of the truck race
and the O'Reilly race, I don't know
that we anticipated how long these events are
going to take to conclude.
What do you guys expect for tomorrow?
Yeah, I think the biggest thing is it's not so much
that everybody's making mistakes.
It's just the cleanup time.
Like every time somebody hits a wall,
it's a 15, 20-minute process.
Because we've got to put the wall back in place
or put all the tire bundles back in place.
So I think that's the biggest thing we're seeing
is that's what's taken the time.
Obviously, we knew coming in the lap time
was going to be long.
But I think they're doing a great job with keeping it
as tight as possible on getting Pit Road open quickly,
doing the chews as soon as we pit.
They're doing a great job with that.
Every caution is a quickie yellow.
Which I think it's interesting, too,
because I was sitting on a pit box today
and I realized how different that makes it for strategy
and pit calls and crew chiefs.
We're trying to think about, man, we
should come in here and get gas.
Top it off.
You don't get that choice to do that anymore,
because we're going to go around there and pick the chews
and start the race.
We're going to go to a quickie yellow as soon as we can.
Yeah, we had a pothole issue, man cover, whatever.
And it damaged the 17 car on the racetrack today.
We didn't really have any big issues in the truck race
in terms of that.
But I'll be honest with you, I'm not that surprised,
not that too concerned about it.
I think it's a brand new road course.
I think I was expecting to have some sort of a man
whole man cover issue figuratively.
That was on your list, man whole cover?
Figuratively, like there was going to be a problem.
Something that didn't go exactly right.
I'm just glad it wasn't me.
Yeah, oh, I'm sure.
What do you mean?
I thought that was you that climbed the fence
and got that autograph earlier.
I'm not that coordinated.
I could barely walk.
What was funny is there's a guy that jumped the fence,
a fan that jumped the fence into the racetrack.
Did y'all see that?
OK.
So everyone, I was somebody's like, that's my cousin.
I was wondering if the world saw that.
So everybody saw it.
And it was funny because they kept the camera on the guy.
And I think that was a way to kind of catch him, right?
If I make sure he didn't get away.
It was like the chopper, the police chase.
He was trying to blend into the crowd for a minute.
Then he went to a port of John for a while.
And they followed him.
And he's like, this is terrible.
This is probably a bad place to hide.
I'll get out of here.
Little privacy, I mean.
If there was ever a racetrack for a fan to do that and get caught,
this would not be the one I would want to do it at.
He needed a spotter because all he had to do
is take his shirt and hat off and nobody would have recognized him.
I don't know what he was thinking.
I think that's what we were all shouting to him in the television.
Change your clothes.
That's what we were saying.
What do you think about how they handled the 17 getting his laps back?
That's a great question.
So it's pretty unprecedented where the damage happens to his car.
It's because of an oversight or something
that NASCAR was unable to predict.
And which is, I knew, again, I knew or expected
there to be some issue that would be problematic.
And I was going to be OK with that.
This is such a project, such a heavy lift, such a, you know,
it's just there's going to be unforeseen circumstances.
And when it happened, I was like, well, that sucks for him.
But, you know, and darn, you know,
I'm sure they thought they had all those band covers welded down.
I walked the track. You've
I mean, we saw there's a lot of welding and extra things
that were done to the street and the road and the surface of the road.
They'll have to undo a lot of that once we're leaving here on Sunday tomorrow.
So there was a lot of work that went in to make sure the track wouldn't screw up.
And when it happened, I was like, damn, that sucks for him.
But I make, you know, let him fix it fine.
But then it comes, this is what was funny.
So he gets his car fixed.
We're under red flag and he pulls up to get ready to leave Pit road.
And they held him like they would hold anybody under red flag.
You're right. You're not allowed to go into the right racetrack.
Well, then he goes out there and they let him get his laps back.
I'm like, what the hell are they holding for?
If they want to give him his last bags under red, just let him go get them
while we're sitting there on the back stretch, waiting on the track to get fixed.
Right. Or whatever. Right.
But I've never seen that in my life.
Only time I've ever seen it is online.
My question is how it's happened.
It's happened. No, no, no, no, I think.
Yeah, when Charlotte, the cable fell.
Cowboys, Cowboys's car.
I remember that and I thought about that today,
but I didn't know if they allowed him to get all his laps back
and allowed him to get his spot back and all that.
I don't think he lost the book.
I think the red came out quick and he didn't lose.
He didn't lose a lap. No, he just fixed.
He just had damage and they didn't even they couldn't even really repair
the damage well enough, right, to to not have it affect his night.
That's crazy that I don't count that one.
I don't count my question is how many laps.
Like if he had to go to the garage and like was 22 laps down
and would they have let him get his I told I told Tyler Ma on the spotter.
I said, once you get done making up all your four laps,
it took us another three laps caution.
I said, pull in the garage and tell him the things wrecked.
We're not.
It felt like an online race with your buddies.
Yeah, just leaving people by.
Hey, yeah, clear my clear my last get away by.
I'm four laps down.
Hold the one I texted.
I texted Parker Kligerman because he was sitting there talking about.
I said, keep the high side clear.
Yeah. Yeah, that was interesting.
You know, I don't know that it bothers me all that bad.
I don't. It didn't really it didn't really affect the outcome of the event
or outcome of the race. Hey, Carson. Hi, Carson.
Where is he? He's waving back there.
Oh, I see him. There he is.
He's got he's a he's a good support for everything that he went through today.
I was heartbroken.
Heartbroken to see what happened to Carson.
And I don't know that I've ever been a bigger Austin Hill fan on those last two
laps. Yeah, yeah, I was very, very happy to see Austin Hill.
Big country. Very happy for big country.
Pull the win off.
I didn't think I'd ever say that.
But good job, Austin.
Yeah. So, you know, it was getting back to the race track
and all that and him getting his last back.
I don't really think it bothers me that bad because it didn't alter the race.
Or, you know, if he gets his lap back and now he's got some sort of
unusual advantage to his car or whatever, because of that.
I don't know. You've seen that happen before.
But I don't.
The only problem is, is like it sets up.
It sets a precedent.
You know, what qualifies where's the line?
Because you remember, Jeff Gordon with the damage at
Martinsville, the concrete coming up.
That's what I was bringing up.
Like we've had pieces of track come up and hurt concrete, come up at Dover,
knocked him into the wall.
Of course, he probably wouldn't have been able to continue anyways.
But I saw Danny mentioned when they all wrecked it.
New Hampshire, it was raining, you know, that's happened multiple times.
Well, that was Danny. That was OK.
Yeah, I don't know. I think watch for Travis.
I feel like considering considering this event, how important it is,
how big of a deal it is, how hard NASCAR is trying to make it work.
I can understand why they made a decision they made.
If this happened at a racetrack that we'd been running at for years.
Yeah, it wouldn't happen.
They wouldn't let him allow them to get his laps back.
But let's move on to the end of the race, you know, is a battle toward the end.
Carson's car was struggling a little bit on drive
and Taylor Gray's closing the gap and putting the pressure on.
And they ran side by side for two or three corners.
And you always know as you're watching something like that happen,
or if you've ever been in that situation, every corner
that each driver doesn't sort of complete the pass, it's boiling over.
And somebody's going to do something that they're, you know, they're not normally
going to do. And that happened to be Taylor in this moment.
And not Carson out of the way.
I was proud of Carson needed his car going so he could finish fourth.
But man, I was boiling mad there for a little while over that
because Carson hasn't won a race yet, you know, and that was that way.
He was doing everything right and he's worked hard to be in that position.
So now you sitting there telling the guy, well, we're going to go to Sonoma.
You're going to have to race against SVG and Conor Zillich in your own cars.
So you might have to wait to Chicago or some other racetrack to have a shot at it.
He's a guy that needs to win now.
Yeah, I didn't I haven't seen it.
So I just on the way down, I'd listen to T.J.
Bitch about it from here to the spotter stand over there.
But, you know, the thing to be the thing that caught me was I felt like
Taylor was running him down for the last two laps before that.
And it just seemed like the first opportunity had that happened.
You know, I would like to see him maybe, you know, try to work a pass there
for a little bit longer. I don't again, I haven't seen it.
So I don't know how bad it was or it wasn't.
But, you know, I felt like as soon as he got there, that happened almost.
Yeah, for me, like, you know, as conservative as I am.
You're Mr.
Where I felt like that was coming from, though, is like the bias, right?
And so when Connor or Carson got next to him and passed him, he kind of,
like, got right in front of him.
And you could see Taylor, like, you know, kind of jerk his hands and stuff.
And so when I was like, man, like that was a little like, like you would think
something had already happened.
You know what I mean?
I was like, man, I wonder if he thought it was dirtier than it was when he crossed
him. So that's the only thing I got out of it was I was like, man, like,
there's probably that bias of like, this son of a, you know, just come slide
across my nose, you know, a little history or something.
They do have a little bit.
Yeah, but but it didn't seem like that.
Yeah.
I was warranted.
I, you know, Arby's is a new partner of ours at Dirty Mo Media and Junior
Murder Forts, and we had a really, I thought one of the best, if not,
possibly the best paint skis I've seen in a really long time on Sammy's car.
Sammy was able to battle back and they hear these fans.
They've seen it.
Sammy had a good day.
Sammy did.
Ended up fifth.
He was not having a good day.
He was not.
But as as things go in these race tracks, you know, these new race tracks
are new things we try.
They're chaotic.
And if you kind of battle and battle all day long, you still might have
an opportunity and he pulled one out.
But the race car just brilliant that I, you know, I'm in the designs.
I've always loved to be a part of designing my own cars.
And I've studied the designs of race cars for decades and have my favorites
and all that.
And just when you think that everything's been done or everything's
been tried or what new kind of approach somebody could take.
Our guy around Williams designs a car.
We were at the Naval base.
He designs a car around vintage naval Navy tattoos, right?
And so like the like all of the, yeah, it's just the coolest.
And so I was super pumped about it when the car came out.
And I'm, you know, I get to see it first before anyone else gets to see it.
And I'm like, damn, this thing looks good.
I hope everybody appreciates it the way I do.
I'm a little biased because it's coming out of my shop.
And it's my guys that are that are designing this stuff.
But I don't know how we're ever.
I mean, just when you think you've seen everything, the fire suit, the fire
suit's interesting.
I didn't see the fire suit.
Well, it's all me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that came out of Atlanta.
It's all Arby's roast beef.
Oh, you've seen it.
It was at Atlanta.
Atlanta was the first race.
Every driver that drives the Arby's car, there's a roast beef fire suit.
It's something if Freddie were to race, that'd be the great.
That'd be his sponsor.
Yeah, I thought my race suits were wild.
And then I saw that one.
I was like, all right, well, I don't know what to do.
I don't there's there's an extreme there and they they're taking it.
Yeah, different wild race suits are more common these days than they used to be.
Used to be so predictable.
And now, yeah, like Denny's from the other week.
Yeah, yeah.
When he wins the minions, the minions.
But again, guys, there's an activation over here.
It's bad ass.
Obviously, if you just look around, you see all kinds of awesome activation
at this racetrack and NASCAR and everybody's done an incredible job.
But over on the other side of the racetrack, then the the Arby's activation
is there all weekend.
I went over there this morning and I mashed a button
and opened up a big giant box and confetti came out.
And there was the cheesesteak.
And so they were given away.
Easy, Freddie, Freddie's dream.
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So Carson, I got a little bit of an announcement
for for you guys next week.
Carson is going to be a special guest on one of our shows or a special host,
actually, on one of our shows on Dirty Mo Media.
Well, I want to give it all away right here.
But you might want to follow Dirty Mo Media's social handles
to figure out what Carson is going to be doing for us next week.
I'm super excited about it.
The one thing I need to ask you, Carson, about prepping for this racetrack.
No one's ever seen it before.
I think that makes prepping incredibly important.
I've asked a dozen people this question.
How much time in the simulator or on our racing?
Did you spend trying to get ready for this track
and under and knowing this place as well as possible?
Yeah, for me, it was Monday at like, you know, like seven o'clock,
the track switch over per the week.
And I think I've ran almost every truck race,
which I felt like was probably a little bit more accurate than the cup car
on our racing, but I spent a lot more hours than laps completed by far.
You know, running into everything and everything.
But, you know, I was racing and Shane was in like three in a row C fix.
Yeah, SVG was in like three in a row.
And so I texted him and everything.
And and all of a sudden he called me in the discord and everything.
And we started running Miata's and and all these other cars
running into each other and everything.
And we'd host races and then we'd be like, yeah, we're in trouble.
This kid that's like has like a 600 I ratings faster than both of us.
But it was fun, you know, luckily it worked out.
I texted him right after I was like, hey, thanks for the I race
and right after call. Yeah.
So almost matched. Yeah, almost matched.
So I was happy about that. Yeah.
Shane runs some some random stuff on I racing.
Like we ran the Coliseum and then Miata's one time and it was ugly.
But it was fun. Yeah.
I mean, it's fun. It's weird what kind of buzz you could come up with.
But there was like it was funny.
Like the Miata's because I recently was like 12, 14 seconds too fast.
But the Miata's on cold tires was probably the most accurate
that we had to like actually the cup car.
So we were texting about that.
I was like, hey, how's your car drive?
He's like, not good. I was like, well, same.
And he's like, yeah, it's it's like the cold tires we had.
So and we wrecked a lot of virtual Miata's on that game.
You talked about qualifying.
You essentially screwed up the first turn and qualifying.
How hard is it to get your composure back
and then go and lay that lap down to be on the front row?
Well, yeah, tell what happened there.
So so, you know, you get to come off Pit road
and you come off Pit road and you see turn two.
So you get to see every corner, but you go green before the Lash came.
So you get to see every everything but the Lash came.
And so I'm roll through there.
Well, they changed it all, like all the tire barriers and everything.
They were all gray and stuff. And now they're orange.
And so like I shift down, get to second gear, roll through it.
And I see the tire bundle and I'm like, I don't know, drove this like a lot.
So I roll off the brake pedal.
I didn't realize the tire barrier was the second tire barrier
on the far side of the chicane.
So all of a sudden, like I'm lined up to hit this first tire barrier.
So I turn, laugh, go too fast, miss it.
So then I kind of hustle, I hustle through 16, one.
And then like I'm like wound up and like I could feel my hands moving
really fast. And I was like, I just got to stop.
I got to relax.
And so I was happy like that, like I kind of did the self talk a little bit,
that relaxed, put together just a smooth lap
and just focused on not over driving.
And then they were like, yeah, second.
And I was like, like happy about that.
So I was but ultimately it was going to be really easy for me to like
overdrive and worry and feel like I got to go get everything back.
But we focused on just like try not to overstep because you'll hit the barrier
too hard, but also to like the more you overdrive here,
the more it catches you off guard and your lap time is just going to be slow.
Anyways, yeah, I've been watching your season.
We've got just, I think, 10 races to go before the chase begins,
which is insane that we're already that far into it.
But you and your teammate, Daniel Sloria, is both in the top 10 in points
when the season began.
I mean, I know everybody's optimistic, but come on.
I mean, we've watched Spire sort of make this incredible meteoric climb
from the very, very depths of the series
into a very comparable competitive team.
But even with that said, I don't know that any of us would have ever had
you in the top 10, much less two of the cars from the same organization
in the top 10. I know you're thrilled about that.
But what was the outlook at the start of the season?
Yeah, I mean, I mean, every year, you know, for three years, I've been in the off
season, you know, pre pump up meetings when you have the whole company right here
and you have Jeff Dickerson on stage and he's just like, yeah, we're going to do it.
You know, we hired we hired two more people this week.
We're excited. We're ready to go.
Like it's like, man, yeah, that's cool.
But like, you know, you know, eventually you're you're like, damn, if you're not
like actually doing it, you're just kind of selling it to, you know,
the investors or the PR people or the employees.
But yeah, ultimately, it's like been this year.
It's like, you know, like we're finally like right and like on the right track
and everything. But really, like it's it's been really cool for me
because a lot of the tracks we've been running really good at and everything
has been like three years of development for for my side of it.
And so that's been really fun in the seven car.
A lot of these tracks have been really similar setups to like me.
So it's like been fun for I mean, it's not fun for me because, you know,
sometimes that used to be a spot.
But like it's like it's fun to, you know, see both of us running good
and ultimately not have distractions of like, man, I don't know why this car
slow or man, we're going to fire this guy or we got to go hire these people
and everything that, you know, just the whole company's in a unison.
So it's really cool to see and everything.
And you know, Sparks was my crew chief for the first time I drove a cup car.
And it was he was probably the happiest when I won Talladega.
So it was super cool to see him, you know, get his first win with Daniel and everything.
Yeah, it's pretty impressive to see you guys.
It's it's happened a couple of times.
Like I grew up in our I grew up in the sport and you kind of knew who was going
to be good, what teams were going to be good.
And those same teams were the teams every year.
And we rarely, if at all, ever saw a new organization come in and just develop
speed and become one of the elite teams.
I guess Joe Gibbs would be one of those.
I was around to kind of see them jump in and work really, really hard to become a threat.
But as it's as we've gotten in probably the last 15 or 20 years, that's been tougher to do.
You know, one really comes in here and start something from the ground up and becomes a champion or a winning team.
And sometimes it exhausts the entire organization entirely to do that.
Like furniture row, for example.
Front row is a team that gets in a has little spells, right?
But you always kind of wonder, man, is this real?
Or is this just kind of a couple of weeks where they're putting it together and is it going to stick?
But it seems like for you guys, it's it's legitimate and it's real.
And I, as a broadcaster, have to start trying to tell myself to expect it, right?
And that's kind of the fun part.
It's a fun story for the is it was the same way with with furniture row, man.
When they started running good, you're like, every week, this team used to be a joke.
You know, look at this thing.
You remember that car that Kenny Wallace drove at Martinville with a fricking two foot up in there?
Yeah, I remember that they were laughing.
And they were in Colorado.
Yeah.
And it was a goofy looking car, the design of it and all that.
I know I'm talking shit, but you know, trying to get some points here.
Yeah, they ended up becoming a championship team.
And it was like, holy cow, how did this happen?
Like, and I don't think that and I try to tell everybody, I'm like,
I don't think we really appreciate what Spires had to do and what they've accomplished, right?
To kind of they were a team that would go to the racetrack without any sponsorship.
They'd sell the entire car for $12,000.
They'd race Darlington for the 400 and they might put two.
They might put new tires on half as much as the rest of the competition.
They'd have to stay out there and run around on old tires.
And they had a goal of like, well, today we're going to the racetrack
and we're going to run 28th.
That's what we're going to do.
We're going to run 28th.
I mean, if we run 29th, no good.
If we run 27th, boy, that's a bonus.
And that was it.
That was they had these like very modest, like, hey, we're racing these four teams.
We got to beat these four teams and it's the four teams in the back of the field.
And they were all back there racing.
They had their own little race going on.
And that was fascinating because we got to talk to Dickerson when that was actually going on.
He was on the show and like, how what's your business model?
Why are you doing it this way?
What's your objectives every week?
Well, now they're a team that shows up and their goal is to win.
And it's a legitimate goal.
It's a realistic goal.
It's just and I think we have such short term memory, right?
That this has happened in our in just the last couple of years.
It's really fascinating to me.
I don't think it's something that's easy to do.
So TJ RFK has had a bit of a struggle over the last couple of weeks.
I know Brad's, you know, trying to get things on the right track.
And I know you're part of that.
You're involved in all the meetings and you and Brad are thickest thieves.
And you just re signed Busher, which I thought was a great deal.
I mean, there was conversations around the garage like, dang,
this guy might actually go somewhere else.
I mean, it was he was a a, you know, a prospect.
Come out of the valuable, you know, I was like, where could he go?
I don't know, but you guys lock him down.
But there's this kind of concern, I guess, going into the offseason about
where does this where does the third charter come from?
I guess we'll all learn about this in real time.
But kind of what is the mentality of RFK going through the rest of the year?
I mean, we're still just trying to put races together.
I mean, we were from eighth in the points to I think we're out one right now, right?
Yeah.
So just to put races together, I need to quit letting Brad get run into and driving into stuff.
And are you going to take some honors or are you taking some responsibility?
I mean, Rex Iraq depends on now that Freddie's sitting here.
I just know I need to get away from Freddie.
I need to get away from Freddie.
We had a fun debate over the past week about Pocono between you two.
Top hard. He didn't like top hard.
He said kept digging go high, but he didn't like top hard.
Well, they can go high.
Keep it different than top hard.
When you say top, you like top hard.
All I had to do is I'll have to kick the ball.
Kick the ball down the hill is going to roll for another 30 minutes.
It could roll for a while longer than that.
Wait, who wrecked who?
Yeah, for it was a wreck.
I don't know if you I don't know if you saw it.
I saw the 97 and whoever else.
Yeah. Bubba commits top.
The only way we're going to get through it is a bubba commits to the throttle,
like full throttle, bubba commits to the top.
And the only way we're going to get through it is to keep digging on the top
because that was the only way back at work.
Well, I could have checked up and got wrecked like the guy behind me did, DJ.
But I tried to go behind you was the three car.
And he followed us. The guy behind me was the 88 who ended up wrecked three.
OK, I mean, you want to pull up a thing.
I can. Yeah, I could get ahead.
I've actually got it recorded.
Anyway, so TJ gave me on the show because I said top hard.
Then you cut the TJ's audio and he says, they're wrecking.
Keep digging. Go high.
So I don't know. I guess I don't know.
Different drivers react differently to wrecks.
And when Brad see smoke or a wreck, Brad.
So he thank God he didn't listen to you.
Probably so, I guess.
Brad naturally, Brad naturally starts hitting the break.
And and we a lot of times it puts us in a bad, worse spot.
But which of where I would have been in the worst spot if I hit the.
Well, you wasn't wasn't wasn't Brad in the middle.
Yeah, we were fine. So on the bottom.
But you said keep digging on the top.
Well, when they were going to go high, go high.
They were coming down and I wanted to go around him,
but he was already committed to the weird who would ever think that.
Why would you want to go high?
I just I don't like looking at your throttle
face and seeing wide open into a T.J.
The 22 hit us in the back bumper.
That's the only way we were getting through that crash cleanly.
So of course, we we had to move down a little bit
to not run the back of the 20.
And that's what got us in the wreck.
That was the only way we were getting through that wreck.
Obviously, it wasn't.
OK, and the guy behind us got wrecked.
If we should have slowed down and let the 22 hit us harder.
You're absolutely right. I apologize.
Austin, you couldn't slow down the door at the 22
I could have just let him hit his nose.
You could have slowed down.
Go watch. Go pull up Austin Dillon's max video.
He tries right through the middle behind.
I love he's still mad at Austin.
I love he did it on purpose.
Oh, listen, I heard they have history.
They're right. Yeah.
Now, so listen to this in Michigan.
Master on purpose.
This was awesome.
In Michigan, we're passing Joey and Austin comes up behind us
on the straightaway and shoves us by him.
And I'm literally standing next to the three spotter and I was like looking at him.
Do we just become best friends?
Like it was like I text Austin afterwards, too.
And we were laughing about it.
But yeah, it's all fun.
We'll race again next week.
Yeah, but your seventh in points to your point.
You're one out.
Austin Cedric is 16th and you you're 17th with Brad Kulowski.
He's some great tracks coming up, too.
Oh, all right. Well, this one next.
Next to. Yeah.
Brad's not terrible on road course when he was driving the two car.
I was going to say what?
Yeah, we've actually in the Miller two car.
We were we were top tenants in Oma last year and something happened late.
Probably got run by Freddie's car or something.
I guess probably.
So, Fred, your driver was pumping his fist after practice.
I'm assuming because he didn't hit anything.
Yeah, that was what you were very excited after practice yesterday.
And again, he said, he said, is that the end of practice?
I said, yes. And he was that was a celebration and then qualifying.
He was called himself Bubba Hamilton.
So there's a good chance.
Yeah, there's a good chance we're going to be in the ocean.
At some point tomorrow, he's coming.
He's messing with you.
Anytime he runs his mouth this much, the universe, it happens.
He's pumped up, man.
I mean, he did a great job.
You know, and he like the first half of the lap, I'm watching this empty up there.
And I'm like, is he in there?
Are we sure this is him?
And then he kind of the second half of the lap he showed back up.
So he only got he was he was tracking like top six or five or six
and ended up 12, which is great for us.
Puts us in a position where we can race for stage points in the beginning.
And what's your confidence in road courses?
You got two in a row.
You know, listen, he was when we were in the 43 car, he was awful.
Like run 30th to 35th, and that was a good day.
He's like four motors.
Since he had some tough days.
But since, you know, 2311 in Reddick, especially coming over there,
he's been a lot better, you know, much better.
I mean, probably the most improved road course racer in the series, I feel like.
And he's just, you know, it's I think it was a part he had a conversation
with Scott Dixon before Watkins Glen a couple of years ago.
And I think it clicked for him like this is actually hard for everybody.
Like I think he just thought it was like everybody's out there cruising around
and he's struggling.
And I think he when he realized like, oh, God, everybody's on edge.
Like I am like, I think something clicked where OK, no, I'm not as bad as I think I am.
And he got a confidence.
And once you get confident, you know, like it's a little bit easier to make it happen.
Yeah.
Did your car drive good?
No.
You wait.
You car didn't drive there.
I mean, I mean, it's not it's not easy to drive.
I thought it was good and qualified, but in practice, I was like,
but I'm in trouble.
Like the rules are gone instantly.
Yeah, that's a that's something that's fun to talk about.
We we showed up and there's a lot of old.
There's new asphalt.
There's sealer.
There's old asphalt, but there's some old concrete and some new concrete.
I think that's kind of the.
I thought the new concrete was going to have a lot more grip.
And I was really glad I watched the truck guys, because like in Irish,
and like that last corner, like 15 and 16, like it's like not even a corner.
You just hold it wide open.
You kind of roll through there.
And then I was like, wait, where'd they wreck?
And they're like, 15, 60, you know, like 15, 14, whatever they were like, no,
no, they like wreck hard.
And I was like, oh, that's not fun.
And so like I luckily, you know, they I'm really glad.
Justin Marks drove the 77 because I think he wrecked that thing like five
different times.
So he must have got all the bad juju out of that thing.
One truck and then went back for more.
His backup.
Well, no, he wrecked his backup, knocked the spoiler off.
They put it back and then he wrecked it again.
The the the weird the the wear on the tire, the rear tires, especially is a big
concern. So we're we're watching practice and y'all run three or four laps.
SVG comes over the radio and says my rear tires are cooked.
And I'm like, if his rear tires are cooked, holy cow, because he's really good
at saving tires and making his tires really last.
But and I don't think that the tire wear has improved a ton.
The tire itself is it putting it down, putting down a lot of rubber to allow
that to improve?
What's the prediction for tomorrow?
Well, for for our cars, like it doesn't put down any rubber.
Like at the end of practice, it'll look like an F1 track where like the rubber
like is on both sides of the groove.
Like it's almost like a cheat sheet.
I was happy about it because it looked like a driving line.
And I was like, I could figure this out pretty easily.
But that's the thing that I don't think the tires are going to be any better
because we're not putting down any rubber.
They just shave and just kind of disintegrate into powder.
Yeah, I know we have like every week we get a thing from our crew chiefs.
And it's like a delta of where they can fall off.
You know, what's your fast lap is going to be, you know, approximate fall off.
And the delta this week, we the 20 lap delta fall off.
We were there at like lap three or four.
I think it is like, OK, this is going to be a problem.
Well, NASCAR decided to give the teams another set of tires tomorrow.
And I think that'll make, you know, strategy and things a little bit more interesting.
Do you know, I know we haven't ran enough practice probably to understand this,
but can you put on a set of tires and and make that work for you or in three,
four laps or just as bad as everybody else?
Yeah, I don't know. I think you can.
And I think you're going to if you're if you're the first car to the
buffer cars, you're going to be able to get some ground.
But it's just going to be, you don't want to be the buffer.
You know how that is.
Like, you don't just want to be in that area.
To me, it seems like it doesn't like fall off.
It's just the cliff.
So if people are in that cliff, you're going to be way faster than them
until you hit the cliff with them.
So like you're going to have like a window to take advantage of it.
And then you'll hit the cliff with them.
And then and then your tires are just kind of just as cooked almost.
Yeah, I didn't don't really get a long run, right?
I mean, I think ours were like six or seven laps, two or 36 or seven
lap runs. Is it a heat thing you think?
I don't know. I just think that just you run on a rubber.
Like eventually enough rubber is just on the is just not even on the tire anymore.
Was there something that you learned watching SVG's laps today or yesterday
that in terms of what gear to be in, did you change things about how you
where you were in terms of what gear for what corner?
Not not anything he was doing.
Like Tyler was like, hey, they're doing this here and there.
But realistically, I only watch my my own in car laps.
I feel like it's just way better for me.
I don't I don't watch anybody else's in cars because a lot of times
I'm like more so just worried about like, you know, their car might not be able
to, you know, might be able to do something different than I can and everything.
So I just try and like rewatch my own laps.
And then, you know, most of the time I'm like, oh, that corner looked terrible
and this and that.
And I can kind of formulate my own kind of thoughts of my own car.
That's kind of why I stick to a little bit, you know, or I just look at everybody
else's in car and go, man, I don't know why I could do this or why did they not
do this? And then I start just having too much information.
Like as little information for me is the better.
I know when we go to some road courses, you'll go out there and you have an
understanding through the stem on what gear you want to be in and what corner.
And then you go out there and you run some laps in the car.
But there'll be a guy that's much faster and you'll learn.
Maybe he's running a different gear down this part of the racetrack.
And I wasn't sure if some of the teams, I know SVG feels like he can't share.
He doesn't want to share anything.
You don't want nobody knowing anything.
You don't want nobody following him around the racetrack or anything like he's
trying his hardest to like hold on to this advantage that he thinks he has.
And he believes that our guys can truly learn all the things that he does.
But the the qualifying broadcast was funny.
Did you notice like everybody positioned behind him?
Just waiting for him to take off to try and follow.
Freaking Alex Bowman.
The SVG pulls off the road and Alex Bowman's like knife into cars to get
to his back bumper.
He's like, I'm staying with you all the way to the freaking green flag.
I felt bad for the people that were like, they were like, I'm just going to go
because of the time.
And I realized they had like SVG behind them.
I was like, oh, their laps destroyed.
They got to decide if they want to race him or have to let him go.
I was like, and like it was a full blown mess.
I was pumped.
I was like, man, Jimmy Johnson on the pole for a group A 129.
Yeah, it was a sketchy looking Coleman.
Coleman Presley said, Joey left Pit road and he's like, all right,
I'm right where I want to be.
I'm behind SVG and it was Connor.
It was the other Red Bull car.
He's like, oh, wrong car.
Yeah.
So we're at the Navy airport here.
And we're at the Naval base.
Naval base.
Yeah.
Sorry, I was a little blamed for it there.
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in the steerage and they were work.
They're actively trying to fix an issue with the controls.
They put a brand it's our steering wheel just like in a race car.
They put a brand new steering wheel on this boat, this giant ship.
And they're like, yeah, we put this wheel on here and it doesn't work.
We have we have redundancy.
There's multiple areas where you can actually control the ship and we don't
have redundancy. It just works right here.
But we got to figure out why.
And so there's there's some servos and stuff that were messed up.
And they were working on it for two days.
And I was more interested in that than actually call in practice.
But I was like, man, I really kind of want to help you all fix to figure this out.
It's like some I.T. work.
But big was the wheel.
Just like a 14 inch steering wheel like an MPI or something.
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As I said, in the in the past with Junior Rugged Sports,
we got to work with the Navy for many, many years.
I landed on a carrier one time, which was a lot of fun.
I don't know if you guys ever had the chance to do that.
Yeah, me and Freddie turn it down all the time, don't we?
T.J. wanted to fly, is why were you?
We were in this rather large plane.
There's about 22 people on it.
And I don't some of us might have even been facing backwards,
but you can't see out of this particular plane.
And so you don't know you're actually getting ready to land.
You just kind of know you're descending a little bit.
You're like, I don't really know what's coming next.
And all of a sudden it hooks that cord and comes to a complete stop
and literally just a few feet and it's it's it's quite a ride.
And they got to be.
I know this that they have to kind of be wide open on the throttle
when they hit that cable, because if they actually miss it,
they need to be able to take off take off.
And so there's just a lot happening in that whole process.
We I did the iracing event the other night with the cover reveal
and one of the volunteers on the shit, the Midway over there
was telling the story about the first time they tried the land one on there.
And he said it was thank God it was successful
because the guy's wife, the pilot's wife was on the on the deck
waiting to have lunch with them.
I would have really ruined somebody's day if I didn't go well.
We tried to fly.
Remember the time you bought a remote control airplane?
A few times, yes.
We went we went to the hobby store and you're like, here, you fly at first.
You can run and I drove it straight to the ground.
I think I knew that I was going to do that.
I was just going to like, yeah, I did it.
But yeah, it's been it's been a lot of fun,
kind of reconnecting with the Navy here this weekend.
And I think today at the O'Reilly race,
all the people that were here were either families or relatives
or whatnot from members of the Navy base.
So it was and we had a ton of people.
I mean, we got to sold out crowd tomorrow.
I felt like it was a sold out crowd today, as many people as I saw here.
Yeah, 88 car looked awesome, by the way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were good. Yeah.
So yeah, it's pretty cool.
I have been surprised at
how difficult it is to get in in the ship,
like into the carrier.
So the carrier, not not try being 64
Try to get fat.
Like, I'm lucky. I'm like a normal height.
So I have not to this point hit my head on anything.
But yeah, if you walk through there trying to climb up, we did that.
We went on I think it was maybe that one.
But like during the Navy NASCAR movie, yeah.
And I was like, you know, we're all like lined up
so we don't get lost, like kind of like holding each other
so we don't get lost through this whole deal and the map and everything.
And I lost the guy in front of me.
I held the whole lineup because I was like trying to dock and everything.
I was like, I'm slow. I'm sorry.
You can go by if you want.
But I was holding everybody up, trying not to knock my head off.
So you go in this, you go in, there's a there's a big set of stairs
and then a ramp and you're in the hangar bay.
And it's insane how big this hangar bay is.
And and you're on top of two nuclear reactors.
So that's cool.
And you walk into the ship to go up in the tower.
And there's, I don't know, man, I mean, no joke.
There's 10 minimum flight of stairs to go up.
And one of the things that I learned,
you can easily get lost in this thing because like you could be standing
in the ship and look around and there's like three or four sets of stairs.
And you're like, I forget which one it was.
And luckily, our production teams like taped, you know,
you know, full stuff on the walls to like go up to the set this way.
But we still get lost.
And there was a guy in there with me, one of the sailors,
and I was like, man, I keep screwing this up.
I'm supposed to turn this corner and go left and then go up.
And he's like, if you're trying to get to the bridge,
just go on the staircase with the wooden handrails.
And I was like, that's so much easier.
So I haven't gotten lost since.
But like to get to the bridge, it's wooden handrails and any other.
If you don't have wooden handrails, it's not going to the bridge.
So that was kind of and there's a bathroom up there and it's fricking bad ass.
I bet. Yeah.
Like I was well, I was we got up there and I was like,
hmm, we're way up here and we're here all day.
What if I got to pee, you know, what if I use a bathroom?
And I was kind of wondering like what the situation was,
did I have to go back down out of the tower?
But no, up there, they got a nice bathroom for for the captain and everybody.
Yeah, it's really nice.
We don't we don't have that over in Turn 15.
Turn 15 doesn't have a bathroom.
There's a sign that says this is a really nice bathroom.
And then you go around to the other side and there's some there's some.
There's a keypad to the to the very to the really, really, really nice bathroom.
But and I don't know you get the code to that one.
I don't know the code, but I want to know what it looks like in there.
Hey, but you're not a ship guy, Freddie, right?
Yeah. Carson hits his head.
I hit my elbows.
I would imagine getting through some of the doors. OK.
Well, we got we got build submarines on our car.
Maybe you'd be better than us.
Maybe I stick to the top, though.
That was going to be too low, right?
Top part. It's true.
There's absolutely only the ones you bring.
Oh, do they have coolers?
No, but there's so many corners here.
You can't really expect it here. So you're comfortable.
He's wondering if she's wondering if you got your cool, cool stuff up there.
No, it's weird here.
You get hot in the sun, then as soon as the sun you get in the shade a little bit,
you're like, you need a jacket. It's nice.
Everybody says the weather in San Diego is bad ass.
And it really is. It is great weather.
I was looking on my phone and it was like, I've I've 80.
Low of 70.
I've 80.
Every day, every single day is the same.
And I was like, bam.
But it's the sun is super sneaky.
It is. So like, yeah, it's like, well, no, it's like Freddie's neck.
It's like smoke right now.
Like that.
It's like 75 degrees.
This is awesome.
But if you don't put any sunscreen on, it's like you were in 100 degree day.
Your face is blistered.
The first day I went back to the hotel and I looked in the mirror and I was like,
bam, my face is red as hell.
I was like, Google and home remedies to take the redness out of my face.
There was a bunch of guys on the roof yesterday.
I look at them, I'm like, you need to put a hat on or something because you're in trouble.
It's early. It's sneaky here because it don't feel like yesterday.
I didn't know it was yesterday.
Yeah, yesterday was the first race.
Like, I got a little sun getting a shower when you get back.
And it's like, oh, wow, I got a lot more sun than I thought I did.
It's scorching hot in here.
Well, we got 15 minutes left and something that's coming up in the
in the next five weeks when we get to starting at Sonoma is the bracket challenge.
And so I know last.
So this bracket challenge, I think is really cool.
Diddy Hamlin came up with this idea.
We actually did this through Dirty Mo Media and then NASCAR stole our idea
and they gave they gave a dude a million bucks last year.
And they're going to do that again this year.
And so we have filled out our brackets and we're going to try to do this
to where it's not too painful for the audience.
So the first race is Sonoma, then you have Chicago, Atlanta,
North Wolfsboro, Indy.
Let's advance.
Let's not go through everyone.
But let's say starting in Atlanta, OK, going into Atlanta.
I have we're going that I'm going to tell y'all who I have.
So your final four essentially.
Yeah, basic. Well, that would be great.
Eight. Yeah, you're talking about it.
It would be a Wilkes Brown.
Yeah, let's go to Atlanta.
Let's let's fast forward to the ground.
I have Redick going to Atlanta against Carson Hosevar.
No.
Me and Hosevar agree on it.
I figured it was lame if I put myself so I'd not myself and not down round one.
But other than that, I have Redick and Zane Smith.
Redick and Zane.
I also have Redick and Zane.
Redick and Zane.
I got Redick and Suarez.
Listen, Zane's got a lot of speed.
Zane's got a lot of speed last lately.
Some of it's wrecking.
He's blown a tire because maybe he's a little low on air pressure.
But I will drop down to the next bracket.
And I have going into Chicago or going, I guess, going into Atlanta.
Gibbs and Chase Elliott.
Yes, I give chase Elliott.
We're probably all the same.
Yeah, we're probably all the same on that one.
Let's move over to the other side.
I have Denny Hamlin and Busher.
I've been tied down in a busher.
You think Ty Dillon takes him out?
Knocks him out.
I think Ty Dillon gets beat this time.
That was Cinderella last year, wasn't it?
Man, you and I, our brackets couldn't be more different.
And I agree with you.
I have I have Denny and Busher.
I've got Denny and Bell.
Denny and Bell.
Yeah, you think so.
Bell with the wrist tomorrow.
No, but you've got to think Brent Cruz is driving.
That's right.
And I know, but if he if he doesn't drive tomorrow, if he gets out
and then does he do Sonoma?
Does he does he do?
He maybe he maybe doesn't get out of the car, but does he?
I don't think there's any way he races tomorrow.
Yeah, I mean, he's going to take the green.
I don't think I can.
I mean, he was eight seconds off and qualifying.
I think that tells you his plan.
I think in Chastain's no pushover at Sonoma.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
OK, all right.
So you had yeah, Bell.
OK, all right.
TJ's got Chris Reveille.
So and then in the final bracket, I've got Larson going up against Blaney.
Yep. Same.
Yes, I'm here. Oh, wow.
I got I got Byron against Blaney by the bottom half.
We're all the same pretty much.
Yeah. All right.
So let's move on.
I guess we're now going to North Wiltsboro.
Yeah. Final four.
Yeah. For the final four.
I have host of our taking on Chase Elliott.
So I think host of our gets through in Atlanta against Reddick.
So I still have host of our live.
This isn't I'm not playing favorites here.
I couldn't tell.
Like hey, he's not going to win the next round, but I got host of our.
Oh, good Lord.
Sorry.
I got I have Zane versus Chase Elliott.
Chase Elliott.
I've got Tyler Reddick versus Chase Elliott at Wiltsboro.
I have Zane versus Chase.
OK.
Over on the next side, I have Denny Hamlin still alive.
Going against Blaney.
I've tied down against Blaney.
Dylan.
It's another Cinderella story.
The top half Cinderella's tied.
Ty Dylan versus Zane.
OK.
I got I got busher versus Blaney.
I've got Denny versus Blaney.
I know none of us has really been paying attention, but I just don't feel like
Ty has a speedy head last year.
Dylan.
Did he have speed last year?
Yeah.
I mean, he can make chickens.
Salad out of chickens.
Hey, he doesn't have to.
No.
Just give a shot.
Just give a shot at Sonoma.
Well, I'm just saying.
You think he's just going to wake up for the bracket?
No.
No.
I'm saying is, you know, there's a good shot.
The guy he's up against might get wrecked out.
You know,
Hey, it happened last year.
He punted somebody at Sonoma, didn't he?
Like tied at 11.
Oh, he did.
Yeah.
He punted Ty Gibbs.
Ty Gibbs won.
Ty Gibbs won.
Oh, you're right.
You're right though.
He punted somebody at 11.
For the spot.
For the bracket.
So he'll do what it takes.
He does it for the bracket.
He shows up.
This is his Super Bowl here, man.
He's been waiting.
He comes to life during the bracket, but I haven't seen his ability to make something
good out of something bad.
Man.
So all right, we got to wrap really quick.
Going into my final two is Chase Elliott and Denny Hamlin, and I got Denny winning
it all.
Ty Dillon.
I have Ty Dillon versus Chase Elliott, but I have Chase winning it all.
I figured Ty wasn't going to go all the way.
I've got Chase Elliott and Blaney, and I have Blaney winning it all.
I've got 45 versus 11, and I've got Denny winning it all.
That hurts to say.
Denny, did Travis fill yours out for you?
Oh my gosh.
Huge thanks.
Hey, thanks everybody for coming out.
Thanks to everybody for listening.
I hope you enjoyed it.
I'm going to throw up.
We're going to be having a lot of fun tomorrow in the Cup race.
Thank you, Arby's.
Thank you to the Navy for sponsoring the show.
All right.
Appreciate you guys coming and hanging out.
Thanks, host of R. You stayed the whole show.
You're only supposed to be about a five minute interview buddy.
So thank you for sticking around.
I got nothing better to do.
I'll be here.
All right.
We'll see y'all later.
Thank you.
Thank you guys.
About this episode
Live from San Diego, the Dale Jr. Download kicks off with a sponsor read—“Arby's and the American Navy are partnering together to bring this show to you guys.”—and a look at how the Navy has backed junior racing. The conversation then zooms into race timing and strategy: “Every caution is a quickie yellow,” plus how wall repairs can add “a 15, 20-minute process.” Carson Hocevar and others also dig into lap-recovery controversy, track incidents, and the mental grind of late-race pressure.
Original notes
After what felt like the longest O'Reilly Series race of all-time, DJD was able to go live from San Diego for a great post-race show presented by Arby's and America's Navy. Dale, TJ and Freddie are joined by The Hurricane himself, Carson Hocevar, for the entirety of the show to talk about prepping on iRacing, Spire's standout performance, qualifying on the front row, and the unknowns of tire wear on the abrasive San Diego circuit. It was a late night but the gang brought the energy, so sit back and enjoy.
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