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That was one of the best races I've watched.
01:34
Plainly wound up squashing all those dreams. The points conversation is not going away.
01:39
Connor Zillich could have went to F1 and been the American F1 racer.
01:43
The closing to Jeff Gordon that we've had in a very, very long time.
01:46
I think that this car has totally disrupted everything that's made Cowbush good.
01:50
He could drive it over the limit. Not gonna happen.
01:58
What a race! California's Kevin Harvick comes in!
02:05
Welcome to Kevin Harvick's Happy Hour presented by NASCAR & FOX.
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He's making so many friends, you are.
02:16
Especially like, listen, more people know who I am now after the last two weeks.
02:25
I'm glad that you're sticking by your opinion.
02:27
No, I think it's wrong.
02:32
And nothing rattles you.
02:33
I appreciate that about you.
02:34
Now, does it rattle you?
02:35
Or are you like a guy that's kind of a closet thinker that says, I don't like all this?
02:43
I love it because it makes people talk about the sport and different opinions.
02:47
And I agree with that.
02:51
Like for me, I like that.
02:52
I'm not gonna let someone bully me out of my opinion.
02:54
Now, you might bring some good thoughts and good opinions too.
02:58
And I might change my opinion, but you're not gonna just bully me out of it.
03:01
And I think that's important for people to see.
03:03
I do get a little worried sometimes because my parents, they didn't sign up for that.
03:08
You know what I mean?
03:09
Like they didn't sign up.
03:10
Like they have to sit there and see their son get drug or people talk a lot of shit.
03:14
Is that a thing towards your parents?
03:15
I mean, people say things about everything.
03:20
The keyboard worries.
03:21
Yeah, the keyboard worries.
03:22
Other than that, it's cool.
03:23
Honestly, most people, like they're really not that bad.
03:28
Debates are good, but especially on X, like you get some...
03:32
There's a lot of hate.
03:33
There's a lot of hate.
03:34
There's a lot of hate.
03:35
I'm okay with debating something back and forth and I might not agree with you
03:40
and you might not agree with me.
03:41
But just like this instance, we don't agree with each other.
03:45
But it's good to, like you say, flush out something that could be better.
03:51
You brought up some valid points.
03:52
KV, how are you going to figure out what's going to move the needle
03:56
if we don't talk about it with the two sides?
03:59
If I'm over here and you're over here.
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I think Stephanie has started the conversation, that is for sure,
04:02
which is the whole point.
04:03
That's the whole point.
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That's what we do around here.
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That's what we're doing here.
04:06
We're not afraid to start the pot, are we guys?
04:09
It's back to school week
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and I have a very cool addition for back to school week for Kevin.
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Back to school week?
04:14
We're three weeks in.
04:15
Well, my kid started last week, I guess, technically.
04:18
So you're going to send him...
04:19
Are you going to send him to school with him?
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No, I'm keeping this for me on this show.
04:22
So you're going to keep your notes in there?
04:27
How was your school thing?
04:29
You went with Keelan, right?
04:31
Did you have to go do your orientation?
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Yeah, we went to orientation day.
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But yeah, I mean, they're starting their third week this week.
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So everything's kind of in a routine.
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I think everybody was nervous about how it was going to go.
04:44
My kids have been homeschooled for the last four years
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since COVID started.
04:47
So they wanted to go back to school.
04:49
So they went back to school and off we go.
04:51
I'd be scared if I was a teacher
04:53
and I saw I had Kevin Harvick's kids.
04:55
Well, I mean, the amount of kids...
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I'd be like, oh, geez.
04:58
The thing about our deal is like, how many kids
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that their parents are in the industry,
05:02
whether it's Kevin's kids or, you know,
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everyone's kids go to school together.
05:06
And so your classroom is half full.
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I mean, our area, I mean, everything we do is like that, though.
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You go to dinner, you see people in the industry.
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I mean, everywhere that you go, I mean,
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we're all involved in racing, which is why we all live here.
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Well, welcome in everybody to episode 58 here
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of Kevin Harvick's happy hour.
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Plenty to break down, leaving Daytona.
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The regular season is officially in the books.
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Hard to believe we're here, guys.
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10 races to go in the season.
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We'll preview, of course, the first playoff race.
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Darlington and I know Mamba has some special sippy zips.
05:48
I still want that cartoon to come out.
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All right, Kevin, question for you.
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Did you get everything you wanted out of the regular season finale?
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That was one of the best races I've watched.
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And I think that, you know, that finish,
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I'm just waiting for him to wreck and they did a great job.
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Really all the way through the end of the race.
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Started a little, race started a little rough, you know,
06:11
with some, some accidents there at the beginning of the race.
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But I think for me, I mean, that was just an edge of the seat finish to the race.
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Didn't see Ryan Blaine.
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Blaine went in that one with two to go.
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I think he was 13th with two laps to go and wound up in a position to win the race.
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So, you know, as much as we've talked about the super speedway racing,
06:32
not being able to form that third lane, team saving gas.
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And I don't know if it's the length,
06:38
the 400, the length of the stages and the 400 mile race that put us in a position.
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They got into one point where they were saving gas right there,
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but you can see right here at the end,
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we had a just a few guys that needed to win to get into the playoffs.
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Cole Custer kind of letting it all hang out right there.
06:56
Not sure about the yellow line there on the back stretch,
06:59
but that's a different story.
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But Blaine, he wound up, you know, squashing all those dreams.
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Washed him. Oh, man.
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And even the 43, Eric Jones, he got shocked out of line when he was leading,
07:15
and he made it back up.
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I mean, he finished fifth.
07:18
Like he, like, so for him to be able to come from the back to the front was big too.
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Kev, I think you kind of touched on it.
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Look how tight this, like, what more do you want from a finish?
07:27
That was fantastic.
07:28
Like, that's what you want to see at these places.
07:30
I think you kind of just touched on it.
07:32
We got to look into why they race so aggressively,
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because they raced aggressive from the drop of the green.
07:38
There was only a small portion where they were saving.
07:41
So is it the shorter race?
07:43
Is it where the stages are?
07:45
Is it just because they decided,
07:47
eight of them decided that we want to control the race?
07:49
So if there's eight guys trying to control the race,
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it makes everybody else pretty tame all things considered.
07:55
Yeah. And I think just whatever, like you say,
07:57
the flow of this race and the aggression and the,
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and just the moving, the movers and goers up to the front,
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I think he had some guys that were trying to save gas,
08:08
but even when you look at the six cars situation where they got
08:13
themselves in a little bit of a hole there because they had
08:15
to put more fuel in their car and got off sequence a little bit,
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trying to get that track position at one point.
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I never saw him for the rest of the race,
08:22
but you look at Blaney.
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I mean, he had no problem making up ground.
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Cole Custer, same way there at the end.
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So the way that the end of that race played out and
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really the whole race was pretty intense.
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There was one little section there that was,
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like you say, a little bit dull,
08:38
but you're going to have that in every race with the strategy
08:41
and things that goes on,
08:42
but can't ask for much more out of a finish.
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And you've got the Ryan Blaney repping the t-shirt today
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as our eventual winner, of course.
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You spoke with him earlier.
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I did. I spoke with Ryan earlier,
08:53
but think about those last two laps for Blaney.
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Huge implications in playoff points.
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When Blaney goes from fourth or fifth to second in the
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I mean, that was nine, 10-point swing for playoff points
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for Blaney at the end of that race,
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bumped Larson back,
09:12
bumped Chase Elliott back,
09:14
taken some points away from those guys.
09:16
And any points matter at this point.
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Blaney's plus 20 over the cutoff to start the playoff.
09:25
So you think about those nine or 10 points.
09:28
That could be huge as they go forward.
09:30
And here we go again.
09:35
Went in the race before the playoffs.
09:36
I look at those playoffs
09:38
and the way that they line out,
09:40
they're just good for Pinsky.
09:42
I popped into victory lane
09:43
and, you know, told all the boys congratulations.
09:45
And there's a couple of the Pinsky execs.
09:48
And I was like, how do you guys feel about your,
09:50
how do you feel about how this one lays out?
09:52
They're like, we have figured it out
09:54
the last three years.
09:55
I think we'll be just fine figuring out again.
09:57
They like the races for that.
09:59
But they've run better the last month.
10:02
Blaney's been solid all years.
10:04
And he brought it up today on the interview.
10:07
They had a miserable start to the season.
10:09
So the fact that they got back to second in the standings
10:12
and were able to win their second race at Daytona
10:15
shows you the speed.
10:18
And when you look at the way the first four are ranked
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right now, we have our little NASCAR Insights
10:23
rankings right here.
10:25
But the first four that are in the seeds
10:28
for the playoffs are the first four in the speed ranking.
10:32
That's very interesting.
10:33
For the average for the 26 races.
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So those first four guys right there
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have had a great regular season,
10:40
but also had the fastest cars.
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Who do you guys think is the, when you look at that,
10:45
obviously Lars and Byron, they're both on top.
10:48
Denny's three points back and then Ryan's
10:50
six points back of them.
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Out of those four, who's had the best year?
10:54
Like who, like William won the champion,
10:56
the regular season championship.
10:57
But would you look at him be like, that is the guy
10:59
that is the favorite right now?
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Like who's your favorite?
11:02
I still look at the playoffs standings
11:03
and I look at Larsen and Byron concerned
11:05
because they started the year off so well.
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He's been, he's had some decent finishes lately,
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but not that ground pounding speed
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that he had at the beginning of the year.
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Byron's been hit or miss.
11:19
They've continued to have speed,
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made some mistakes.
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And this is going to come down to mistakes.
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It's just going to, it's going to come down to mistakes
11:28
It's going to come down to wrecks.
11:29
It's going to come down to who makes less mistakes.
11:32
And, you know, when I look at a Christopher Bell,
11:35
for instance, right there, can they just show up
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and put together 10 weeks?
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That was my championship at the beginning of the year.
11:45
I think they can do it, but it's so hard
11:47
to just show back up, you know,
11:49
and put yourself in a position for 10 weeks
11:51
and start to try to have a different mindset.
11:54
And I know that they don't intentionally do that,
11:56
but you can see the flaws in what they do
11:59
from the inconsistency of things happening.
12:01
So I don't know, it'll be interesting.
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And, you know, you look at Denny in third right there.
12:07
Is this the year that he can break the playoff curse
12:12
and put together 10 weeks.
12:14
But it's always so interesting.
12:15
You look at everything that they have going on,
12:18
knowing that you still have to answer all those questions.
12:21
And so I don't know, it's very intriguing.
12:25
You asked me about those top four.
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And I was going to say Denny Hamlin,
12:29
when I look at the body of work over the whole season,
12:31
I think that he has shown probably the most consistency.
12:34
Now last weekend was not a representation of that.
12:36
Everything that could go wrong kind of went wrong for the 11.
12:39
But yeah, I think this could be the year finally for the 11.
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What do I think about one of those top four you were talking about?
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Tell her besties. Come on.
12:51
No, I don't think so.
12:52
But I didn't pick him to win the championship either.
12:54
So, I mean, I think the most dangerous cars that are,
12:58
groups that are left is Bubba Wallace and Chase Briscoe.
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They have had raw speed and they've shown in spurts
13:09
that they can put it together for multiple races.
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If they can put it together right now when it matters most
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and the lights are the brightest.
13:18
Those damn bright lights.
13:20
The hole that I see, you know, is from a stats standpoint
13:25
and the stats, you have to pay attention to them, right?
13:28
Because they show the body of work.
13:30
You know, when I look at the pit crew column,
13:32
I see a 20th ranking for the Briscoe pit crew.
13:35
I see a 25th place ranking for the SVG pit crew.
13:42
20th, you know, Josh Berry's 22nd ranking.
13:46
So, Austin Dillon, 26th from a pit crew ranking standpoint.
13:51
So, I think that those things matter.
13:53
You see the body of work and it'll be interesting to see
13:56
if we have any of those teams that move their pit crews around
13:59
to try to adjust to put their best foot forward.
14:03
You look at RCR, do they have the best pit crew on the three?
14:06
Can they make something better with eight not being
14:10
SVG, you know, same way.
14:13
So, it's really interesting to look at all these stats
14:17
and say, okay, what is actually going to happen
14:21
when we get to the playoffs with the pit crew stuff?
14:23
The speed part is even somewhat deceiving at this point
14:28
because now you take all those crumbs
14:31
and all those pieces that you found throughout the year
14:34
and you've put them into your first car at Darlington,
14:37
Because it's hard to implement everything all at once,
14:41
but these playoff cars that show up to Darlington
14:44
will have all those pieces put together.
14:47
You'll have more focused drivers.
14:49
You'll have as much focus out of every team member
14:52
that you've had all year.
14:53
All that effort is going into these Darlington cars
14:57
and that's why you show up at a lot of these races
14:59
and you'll get to the round of eight
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and it'll be the first eight guys on the racetrack
15:03
because it's just that ultra-high level of focus
15:06
that's really tough to put together.
15:08
When we talk about it on here all the time
15:10
with the 24 and the 20,
15:12
it's hard to put together those 38 weeks of a season
15:16
to be able to focus and put that many details into it
15:22
but when we get to the playoffs, that's what happens.
15:25
Yeah, laser focused in for all these teams
15:29
and we'll be interested to see, like with the three, right?
15:32
They're the only team,
15:33
they're the only car in for that group,
15:35
the RCR group, so they get a lot of focus,
15:38
which really helps, whereas the Penske group,
15:41
it's all four of their cars,
15:43
Hendrick, until you get into the next round
15:47
and even really the round of eight,
15:49
you're not getting all the focus at your organization.
15:52
All the resources, yeah, that's right.
15:54
And when the teams come together
15:56
and it's like, all right, we only have one bullet,
15:58
we're making sure it's our best one.
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That's when it really starts showing up.
16:02
One team with momentum on their side, of course,
16:04
Ryan Blaney, the Victory Lap interview with Kevin
16:07
I want to talk about the guy who's the last man in five below,
16:09
Alex Bowman, who I believe deserves to be there.
16:12
But this was just a tough situation for them
16:15
getting taken out early on in the race
16:17
and having to sit for agonizing hours,
16:20
wondering if they would advance.
16:22
All the way to the end.
16:23
All the way to the end.
16:24
I mean, one of those,
16:25
there were so many of those guys
16:26
up in the front of the pack there at the end
16:28
as you see the trouble that they had.
16:30
And this wreck was, you know,
16:32
really think it was on the 23,
16:34
just squeezing down on the 22.
16:37
And, you know, unfortunately,
16:39
that got the eight, that got the 48,
16:41
got several of those cars that were in there.
16:43
But I agree with you.
16:45
I think Alex Bowman deserves to be in there.
16:47
That's the part that I don't like about the current point system
16:50
is there's nothing that guarantees
16:52
rewarding all 26 weeks in there currently.
16:55
Could have had a guy that's,
16:56
well, I'll just tell you,
16:58
Cole Custer was in the mix.
17:00
33rd in the points.
17:02
And to me, that's tough to knock a guy out
17:05
by winning one super speedway race
17:08
over a guy like Alex Bowman,
17:10
who's put together 26 weeks.
17:12
What if you guys think if there was a caveat
17:14
to the system where if you get the win,
17:16
but you have to be top 20 or something in points?
17:18
I think that there's probably something to,
17:22
you know, if you want to just leave it like it is,
17:28
That's, you know, that's not the way I would do it,
17:30
but I think there needs to be
17:32
two or three guaranteed spots for the points.
17:34
And if you have too many winners,
17:36
then just start the first round with too many cars.
17:39
You know, if you could still earn your way in with wins,
17:42
but start the first round with too many cars
17:44
and, you know, just eliminate more cars
17:47
in the first round.
17:49
And because a guy like Alex Bowman
17:52
has put together a decent 26 weeks,
17:55
a guy like Cole Custer hasn't.
17:57
They've been almost, I mean, they're almost dead last
17:59
in the cars that have run full time.
18:03
knock out a car that's put together a season
18:05
like Alex Bowman has had,
18:07
just because he hasn't won a race,
18:09
but put together a great, you know,
18:11
decent body of work over 26 weeks
18:13
doesn't make sense to me
18:15
in what you put together for 26 weeks.
18:17
Yeah, I like that idea.
18:19
I think when it comes to the points
18:21
and like people have said 20,
18:23
that should be less.
18:25
Points have to matter more.
18:27
Yeah, points have to matter more.
18:29
But when they only want 20 cars to be eligible,
18:33
so you're taking the cars,
18:35
the teams that are further back, right?
18:37
You're devaluing them
18:39
as far as what they can sell
18:41
for sponsorship and the business side.
18:43
Like the business side takes a massive hit
18:45
when you're a 25th place team,
18:47
but you're like, all right,
18:49
we have six super speedways
18:53
and you're telling your sponsors
18:55
and you're trying to sell more sponsors
18:57
on the fact that we can get in
18:59
and be a part of the show,
19:01
we're putting all our eggs in these baskets.
19:03
Well, now it's like,
19:05
how are you going to get a sponsor
19:07
to spend $30 million on a program
19:09
when they don't think
19:11
that they can really win
19:13
to get into the playoffs anyway?
19:15
You know what I mean?
19:17
$30 million, I want you to be my sponsor rep.
19:21
Okay, 18 mil, whatever it is.
19:23
I think the incentive to win
19:25
needs to stay there,
19:27
but I think there needs to be
19:29
something more for the points.
19:33
The full body of work.
19:35
Now, I think that being able to eliminate those,
19:37
you'd eliminate those guys
19:39
in the first round anyway.
19:41
They're going to be gone
19:43
in the first round of the playoffs anyway.
19:45
So if you have more cars than 16
19:47
and you're guaranteeing the points guy
19:49
a reward for their body of work,
19:51
I think that there's a number
19:53
of different ways you can do this
19:55
if we're going to change the points system.
19:57
Sorry to bring it up again.
19:59
It's not going to go away.
20:01
The points conversation is not going away.
20:03
It's going to change
20:05
in some form or fashion.
20:07
What makes the most sense
20:09
for the competition?
20:11
Let me be honest about how I feel about it.
20:13
From the competition side,
20:19
kick everyone's ass,
20:21
and be done with the championship
20:23
five races early and I just get to sit back
20:25
and I've had it done.
20:27
But for the business
20:29
and the longevity of the sport
20:31
and the fans and everything
20:35
that doesn't really make the most sense
20:39
From the competition side,
20:43
I don't think the best
20:45
car has won the championship.
20:47
Best car or best driver?
20:49
I'm just calling it a car
20:51
because in order to have a car,
20:53
you've got to have the best driver.
20:55
To win the championship, you've got to have the best driver
20:57
and the best team put together
20:59
to win a championship.
21:01
But I don't know that the best car
21:05
has won the championship
21:07
in this format all the time.
21:09
When Kenseth won his,
21:11
would you say that he was the best car
21:13
and was that the best car that year?
21:15
That was a long time ago.
21:19
When you go back to
21:21
2020, we won nine races.
21:23
We had the best car. We just didn't have
21:25
the best car at the last race.
21:29
and I'm still not sold
21:31
that you look at Kyle Bush
21:33
winning the championship. I'm still not sold
21:35
that you should be able to miss
21:37
four, five, six races,
21:39
whatever it was and be eligible
21:41
to win a championship. I think you're hurt
21:43
and you shouldn't win the championship.
21:45
I think if you can't make all the races
21:47
there's something to be said
21:49
about maybe one week.
21:51
That's where the owner driver
21:53
thing comes into it
21:55
because the car made it through
21:59
The car still wasn't going to win the championship
22:03
go back to Jimmy Johnson's championship.
22:05
All the other three guys wrecked.
22:07
He brought this up the other day.
22:09
The other three guys wrecked in the championship
22:11
race and he won by default.
22:13
I think the last time
22:15
it's a really tough conversation.
22:17
The last time with this format where it
22:19
seemed like the rightful team and driver one
22:23
Would you agree with that? That was
22:31
there are some flaws
22:33
if you're looking to reward
22:37
and the best team for a whole years
22:41
I just think that that first 26 weeks
22:45
there needs to be more emphasis on the first
22:47
26 weeks and that reward
22:49
and winning and all that.
22:51
I don't know how you tie it all together.
22:53
I'm glad I don't have to do that because
22:55
it's a no-win situation.
22:57
A lot of people want a lot of things
22:59
for different reasons and trying to make
23:07
I think that's a bit of a head
23:09
scratcher this year is Tyler Redick
23:11
and company. Now they did advance on
23:13
but he was saying this is not how we want
23:15
to advance to the playoffs
23:17
with very minimal momentum on
23:19
their side. It just seems like
23:21
there's something not quite
23:23
coming together. It's really confusing
23:25
when you look at the speed chart average
23:27
for the first 26 weeks he ranks fifth
23:31
speed but they don't execute.
23:33
They don't turn it into anything
23:35
but to me it doesn't feel like
23:37
he's had that top five speed
23:39
when I watch the races
23:41
and I know that he got tore up again
23:45
I really thought that they would
23:47
progress into, especially the way that
23:51
they went through the 23 of Bubba
23:53
went through a lull there of
23:55
time but they got it back
23:57
and got themselves the victory lane
23:59
off like gangbusters and it's just not
24:01
it's not been that type
24:03
of year like we saw last year
24:05
out of Tyler Redick and so
24:07
not hard to do. You don't have to miss
24:11
be in that category anymore but they just
24:13
to me don't feel like
24:15
contenders at this point. They just
24:17
haven't, yeah they haven't had the spark
24:19
they haven't had their moment
24:21
this year. They haven't had
24:23
the, yep there's a definite
24:25
championship contender
24:29
just you know what I mean
24:31
this team at Bubba and the 23 group
24:33
they've done a really good job and had
24:35
good speed and executed and when it mattered
24:37
and they just haven't been
24:39
able to do it and you can't really
24:41
sometimes it's just that year
24:43
and you look at the five, those two guys
24:45
Tyler Redick and Kyle Larson
24:47
those two groups were the ones fighting
24:49
and we were like one of these two guys
24:51
is going to win the championship last year
24:53
and they're both kind of
24:55
just a little bit of low for their
24:57
standards that they've set for themselves.
24:59
That's weird, I don't know why.
25:01
Well I think some of that too
25:03
I think when you look at
25:05
2311 obviously they have a lot going on
25:07
off the racetrack but on the racetrack
25:09
they added another car
25:11
and anytime that you expand that's going to
25:13
take some time to get those resources
25:15
spread back out to be able to
25:17
understand the flow of your company
25:19
and know where the holes are
25:21
of where to get those details
25:23
and so I always look at expansion
25:27
disruption to a team
25:29
to be able to maintain
25:31
at a high level of winning
25:33
is tough because of
25:35
of the things that change
25:37
so if I were going to point
25:39
my finger at one thing
25:41
I would point towards expanding
25:43
to three teams, that would be
25:45
that would be my guess.
25:47
So some growing pains maybe came
25:49
to 2311 with that expansion
25:51
I know the teams that have advanced on
25:53
what about the groups that did not bake it
25:55
and what they need to do in their agendas
25:57
for the next couple of weeks
25:59
thinking specifically about Kyle Busch
26:01
and RFK Racing, we've talked about it guys
26:03
Brad Kizlowski is the flagship team
26:05
I mean he's the leader of the group
26:07
but it's just been lagging for some time
26:15
the star of the team
26:17
that's the team that's supposed to be the leader
26:21
six weeks they've definitely run better
26:23
climbed up the point standings
26:27
you know always seems to be
26:29
something that happens throughout the day
26:31
that keeps them from
26:33
being in position to win
26:37
you know it's a tough conversation
26:39
I think it's that time of the year
26:41
where you have to start deciding
26:43
are you going to make changes on your team
26:45
to be able to put yourself in a position to win
26:49
what they've done the last six weeks
26:51
for the end of the year to get themselves back to Victory Lane
26:53
to know that they're okay
26:55
or do they need to go hunt for
26:57
engineers, crew chief, whatever they
26:59
think that is, this is the time of year
27:01
that you have to do that because
27:03
all the good people their contracts are up
27:07
they're up starting in September
27:09
usually and I think
27:11
that's the time of the year that you have to start
27:15
I think that Ryan Priest did a great job
27:17
this year I don't think anybody expected
27:19
the improvement that they
27:21
saw but their real contenders
27:23
are going to be better next year
27:25
having a year under their belt
27:29
but when you look at that six car
27:31
it's supposed to be the anchor on the performance side
27:33
and they just they have not been
27:35
and you know I think that
27:37
you got to have somebody be
27:39
the anchor of the team to carry it along
27:41
and it just hasn't been that way for the six
27:43
yeah I mean he's the
27:45
obviously he's supposed to be the guy, his name's on the
27:47
freaking building stuff
27:51
we're going to go right into this conversation
27:55
right to Kyle Busch right
27:57
when you look at the next gen car
27:59
it's different than what it used to be
28:01
several years ago and
28:03
can you adjust to that style to be
28:05
can Brad adjust to that style
28:07
of being a consistent winner
28:09
like he was at Penske in this car
28:11
and in this organization
28:13
being the team owner and having to do everything
28:15
outside of the car that's the question
28:17
and they haven't they got to answer it
28:19
right he's got to answer it and the only way to
28:21
answer is to either do it or you don't do it
28:23
and they're putting in the work to do it
28:25
obviously because the cars are faster
28:27
their team is better
28:31
execute and finish it off and they
28:33
when they're in position just like KB
28:35
when Kyle Busch and that group is in position
28:37
it seems like the wheels fall off
28:39
every time this year
28:41
and honestly the 60 could
28:43
develop into that anchor car
28:45
he was the best car this year
28:47
Ryan Priest was the best car
28:49
consistently for the first 26 weeks
28:51
week in and week out
28:53
I mean Busch didn't
28:55
I mean he had some moments but
28:57
he didn't run as well as he did last year
28:59
as far as being in contention
29:01
to win races they haven't run as well
29:03
the 60 car has been the best RFK car
29:05
we have several drivers
29:07
dual roles of driver team owner
29:09
with Denny Hamlin and Brad Kosowski
29:11
but what kind of task is that when you're trying to balance
29:13
both sides both entities
29:15
because you've done it too
29:17
well it's tough and I think
29:19
Denny's situation to me is easier than Brad's
29:21
because Denny's they're getting their cars
29:23
from Joe Gibbs racing
29:25
and then they put the final details on it
29:27
it's a much different process
29:31
is developing doing all those things
29:35
not on their own but I mean basically
29:39
they're not buying their cars from somebody
29:41
it's not like they're coming from Penske
29:43
their cars aren't coming from Penske
29:45
they're doing that all within their walls
29:47
so I think it's more difficult
29:49
because I always found when I drove for RCR
29:51
and KHI at the same time it was almost better
29:55
because I wanted my RCR stuff to be as good
29:57
as it could so I could take it to KHI
29:59
and I think Denny's in that same boat
30:01
he wants to put as much
30:03
as he can and put in at JGR
30:05
because he knows that's going directly to his team
30:09
I mean and Denny works his ass off
30:11
and puts the time in to be
30:15
and do everything he can to win races
30:19
motivation for your own company
30:21
when you're driving for somebody else
30:23
especially in Denny's case when they have the business
30:25
relationship is super
30:27
super motivating to be able to
30:31
and the whole thing is
30:33
that situation is very different
30:35
and very interesting with Denny
30:37
obviously with the lawsuit stuff
30:39
with him being at JGR
30:41
and knowing exactly what's going on
30:43
with his driving career
30:47
I don't know how you can really
30:49
split those two things
30:51
on a day to day that's a lot
30:53
and I think when there's some other moves
30:55
I think the McDowell move
30:57
I think he's worse off
30:59
than he did at front row
31:01
I agree that he hasn't done as well
31:03
but I think he's in a better position
31:05
like a better place
31:07
I mean depends what you consider a better position
31:09
do you think that the
31:13
I think that the organization of Spire
31:15
is faster on average
31:17
and they've had more opportunities
31:21
better over there but also
31:23
my perception of it is different because
31:25
I expect less out of the front row group
31:27
when he was there then I do out of
31:31
so you got the expectation is kind of
31:33
and on the flip side of that I think his crew chief
31:37
I think him leaving front row
31:41
and I don't think that they've run
31:43
since McDowell and Peterson have left
31:45
they haven't run as well without them
31:51
they've done any better at Spire
31:53
I guess is the best way to put it
31:55
and I think it's really hurt
31:57
the performance of front row
32:01
he's 34th in the standings
32:03
Riley Herps right behind him
32:05
and Cody Ware in 36
32:07
so that's as bad as you can
32:09
almost as bad as you can do
32:11
and I think a lot of that is
32:13
the leadership of McDowell but
32:15
I think the Travis Peterson
32:17
piece of it not being in
32:19
those walls at front row
32:21
has really affected that team
32:23
he's got a wealth of knowledge
32:25
an engineer at Hendrick Metersports for many years
32:27
I think he's a super sharp crew chief
32:29
super sharp and he comes
32:31
from that lineage of really
32:35
that he could lean on and learn from
32:37
when you have that it's like
32:39
you talk about the coaching trees right of like
32:41
Belichick and Andy Reed and like where do these guys go
32:43
after and then you're like oh he was
32:45
under Chad's wing for a little bit oh that makes sense
32:47
you can see that lineage
32:55
but when you look at 33rd
32:57
you know with Cole Custer
33:01
the only time we've seen him show up is the
33:03
two-day toner races this year
33:05
and they've just been non-existent the rest of the year
33:09
that divorce between
33:13
has basically taken them out of contention
33:15
as far as being a competitive team
33:19
for our experience this past weekend
33:21
I asked him about that and he was like
33:23
well we really went from
33:25
we didn't go from four to one
33:27
we really went really from like four to zero
33:29
and then back up like
33:31
they broke down the whole thing
33:33
and then rebuilt with what was left
33:35
and it's a whole new
33:37
and maybe more changes on the way
33:39
on the manufacturer side it sounds like
33:41
some rumblings of that
33:43
I want to go back to Count Bush
33:47
this year they only have two top five performances
33:53
do you think maybe it becomes a mental
33:57
like he's starting to think like can I not do this anymore
34:01
what do you think is in his mental space?
34:03
I think this car has totally disrupted everything
34:05
that's made Kyle Bush good
34:07
everything that made Kyle Bush good up until this
34:11
was the fact that he could drive it over the limit
34:15
everything that you needed to put in a car
34:19
he knew the springs, he knew the shocks
34:21
he knew everything that was going on
34:23
not going to happen in gen 7 racing
34:25
you're not going to know
34:27
the springs and the shocks
34:29
it's a way different dynamic
34:31
of what it takes to make this car go fast
34:33
you're not building cars
34:35
that are specifically built to your driving
34:37
style from an aero balance
34:39
standpoint you've got what you've got
34:41
and every time that this
34:47
a wreck or something on pit road
34:49
or something happens
34:53
and just can't finish the deal
34:55
and I think that for Kyle
34:57
he's in a position to where
34:59
he knows he wants to win
35:01
and he knows everybody wants to win
35:03
he knows he needs to win
35:05
he knows in those positions where he can win
35:07
and then he pushes it over the edge
35:09
and that's always what made Kyle Bush great
35:11
he pulled too far and saved the car
35:13
and now it's just that he just can't
35:15
find that feel of putting himself
35:17
in that position so everybody
35:19
wants to see Kyle Bush win
35:21
we're going on three years
35:25
finishing the points is 14th
35:27
and not going to finish
35:29
that was the worst he ever did
35:31
at Joe Gibbs racing so it just
35:33
it hasn't been great
35:37
I don't think there's anyone that I want to see win
35:41
we know how important Kyle Bush is
35:47
it's going to be tough
35:51
I was doing practice and qualifying
35:57
he had an 18 M&M shirt
35:59
that was down to his knees
36:01
and it looked like maybe his mom
36:03
and his big brother maybe his dad or whatever
36:05
and he stopped and saw Kyle
36:11
and you just see that and then I look at him
36:13
and I'm like damn I want that guy back
36:15
I want to be able to see that
36:17
do you think he ever wins again?
36:21
I'd love for him to win this year
36:23
so they can feel like they have
36:25
something to look forward to in the next year
36:31
interesting too as you go forward
36:33
there's going to be some mixups
36:35
and changes I don't know whose contracts
36:41
there's got to be a crew chief
36:45
at Connor Zillich's car
36:47
I was just getting ready to get there
36:51
there isn't a crew chief in the garage
36:53
that doesn't want to sit
36:55
on the pit box for that kid
36:59
when you know you have something special
37:05
we just got to do our job
37:09
it's a take your pick
37:13
there's only a couple of guys
37:17
there's more than a couple
37:19
there's a handful of guys that are going to say no
37:21
but you got to, in my opinion
37:23
if you're doing what you should be doing
37:25
from the race team standpoint
37:27
you should have a pick of the crop for that kid
37:29
from a crew chief standpoint
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I was just going to say
38:03
there's some very talented young racers coming through the pipeline
38:11
and so you mentioned Connor
38:13
and I want to hear his take on
38:15
the announcement that he will be going full-time cup series racing
38:17
he made it over the weekend
38:19
it was a very emotional moment for him take a listen
38:21
I never knew what was ahead of me
38:23
and there were times five years ago
38:25
where I thought I was just going to college
38:27
and live the life of a normal kid
38:29
and then when I asked my dad
38:31
what's your plan with this kid
38:33
and my dad was like
38:35
well he's going to race for another year too
38:37
and then he's going to go to college
38:39
and Kevin told my dad
38:41
he's like you can't do that
38:43
so first of all thank you to Kevin
38:45
there's a lot of people that
38:47
have been a part of this journey
38:51
your reaction hearing that
38:53
well I mean Connor's a
38:55
I mean he's a great kid
39:01
type of person that everybody wants to root for
39:03
and he's personable
39:07
he's got a great demeanor in a way
39:09
that he carries himself
39:11
and people are going to love him
39:13
and I think as you go through time
39:15
and more people know his name
39:17
they're going to love him for who he is
39:19
let alone the fact that he can
39:21
drive the snot out of that car
39:29
when we started racing go-karts he started helping Keelan
39:31
and we got to know Connor pretty well
39:33
he helped Keelan with some of his
39:35
go-kart data and training
39:37
and different things when we first started
39:39
but always been a part of
39:41
he was always a part of that side
39:49
but he's a great person so
39:51
you know I think that conversations
39:53
about with his dad I mean it happened outside the airport
39:57
you got to figure out you can't send this kid to college
39:59
you at least got to give him a shot
40:03
he's looking at all this talent
40:05
and all this aura and he's like
40:07
you're going to do what with this
40:09
he's going to be a financial
40:11
and thank God Keelan was racing go-karts
40:13
at the time because we plucked
40:15
what I felt were the
40:17
two best kids that were older than Keelan
40:19
at that time out of go-kart racing
40:21
I mean Connor Zillich could have went to F1
40:23
and been the American F1 racer
40:27
most recent miss by
40:29
Formula 1 and just the fact that
40:31
we were racing go-karts and we kind of steered
40:33
these kids, these kids had no interest
40:35
they didn't even know what NASCAR was
40:37
they wanted to go down
40:39
that F1 road and so
40:43
them into NASCAR but
40:45
Connor Zillich not only could he make it here
40:47
but he could have been the F1
40:53
competitive in an F1 car
40:55
I want to get your taken a second but I'm curious
40:57
when did you start to recognize his talent
40:59
when was that turning point you were like huh
41:03
Connor was just one of those kids that stuck out
41:05
I mean he could start in the back
41:07
he could go to the front
41:09
he'd make spectacular moves
41:11
and since I've known him
41:13
that's how he carried himself
41:15
and his parents would send him to Europe
41:17
with the driver coach
41:19
and they would go by themselves
41:21
and you hear him talk about Gary Willis
41:23
and the time that he spent
41:25
racing go-karts with him that was the guy
41:27
that helped him race karts
41:29
I mean he'd show up at the airport by himself
41:33
just walking around get on the airplane
41:35
get off the plane hey man can't run a car
41:39
you can come with us to the track
41:41
but he would just get in there
41:45
spectacular things but
41:47
he's very intelligent
41:49
and you can tell by the way that he speaks
41:51
he's very intelligent
41:53
he understands the data he can coach himself
41:55
he can look at the data
41:57
he can compare it to somebody else and say I need to do that
41:59
and then he can go execute it
42:01
that's what racing is in today's world
42:05
you're going to be under criticism
42:07
from the time that you get
42:11
if it's done appropriately you're going to be criticized
42:13
and you're going to be compared
42:17
he can criticize himself and he can go out and
42:19
execute those changes on the racetrack
42:21
to make himself faster and better
42:23
and know how to do that
42:25
I was in the media center and I looked at some people
42:29
the most finished product
42:31
that we have had in a
42:33
very very long time
42:35
and they're like what do you mean finished product
42:37
he's only 19 I'm like he's already a
42:43
that you could possibly win at
42:45
and not to mention he's not just jumping over
42:47
from sports cars into stock cars
42:49
he's also running one in cars tour races
42:53
won what was he and win six
42:55
or something dumb in the X-Frinity series
42:57
well technically seven
42:59
Parker got him another one this weekend
43:03
he's going to keep learning and keep getting better
43:05
because you never stop
43:09
I think Parker said it like the closest thing to Jeff Gordon
43:11
that we've had in a very very long time
43:13
that someone coming in and being able to
43:15
have an impact like that immediately
43:17
and it's going to be
43:21
going cup racing is a whole different animal
43:23
it is a whole different animal
43:25
and you've got more pressure
43:27
more media more money
43:31
and the competition is
43:33
by far the most that you will ever have
43:35
so you're going to have a new team
43:39
you're going to have a lot of challenges
43:41
but he is the most polished
43:43
that's the most well-rounded
43:45
young driver that's come
43:53
that's a good word to describe him polished
43:55
a very high praise here for Connor Zillich
43:57
we look forward to seeing what the future will hold
43:59
for him you mentioned Parker
44:01
I know you wanted to give him a shout out for that
44:03
hell yeah I want to give Parker a shout out
44:09
he got the wind taken away from him in the truck race
44:11
at the beginning of the season after he
44:13
won in like whatever
44:15
with a little bit of height
44:17
in whatever happened
44:19
and for him to get the opportunity
44:21
the irony in that and it was just a beautiful moment
44:29
is crew chief on the 88, Marty Lindley
44:31
I've worked with Marty a few times
44:33
with Pat Martin who's like his right hand man
44:35
was doing the driver change
44:37
like if Pat doesn't if Pat messes up
44:39
putting that window net back up
44:41
everyone's the whole entire thing
44:43
like one little thing like people like
44:45
think it's so amazing it is
44:47
but every detail is what makes it so amazing
44:49
and for them for Chevrolet
44:53
for WeatherTech like
44:55
it's not like it's just like Dale's like oh we're going to put Parker in
44:57
there's a lot of checks and balances
44:59
that go into getting him into that car
45:01
and for it all to work out
45:05
good job Parker Kligerman
45:07
yeah and good job junior motorsports too
45:09
I don't think we've probably
45:11
given them enough credit for how good those cars
45:13
have been this year
45:15
I mean they're on fire this year
45:19
so now the playoffs begin guys
45:21
we're headed to the very first race of that
45:23
which would be Darlington
45:25
three tracks in this round
45:27
Darlington, Gateway and Bristol
45:29
three different places I might add
45:31
so what are people up against this weekend
45:33
you obviously won there three times
45:35
don't beat yourself
45:37
that's the saying that you don't want to do at Darlington
45:39
you don't want to run into the fence
45:41
you don't want to knock a tow link off
45:43
you don't want to miss Pit Road
45:45
and you're going to see it, it'll happen
45:47
there's just no way around it
45:49
there's going to be guys that get desperate
45:53
and make those mistakes
45:55
and so Darlington is
45:57
race the racetrack first
45:59
put yourself in a position to not make
46:03
stay on the lead lap and do what you have to do
46:09
500 miles at Darlington
46:11
is a tough, tough ask from a driver
46:13
standpoint to be able to put that
46:15
and pit crews you're going to make a lot of pit stops this week
46:17
and we know there's a lot
46:19
of areas to make mistakes
46:21
and you've got everybody amped up
46:23
and the guys who've been
46:25
able to manage this there'll be some of them
46:27
that are able to pick it up
46:29
there's going to be a surprise
46:31
I think that pops up
46:33
that is a contender that hasn't been
46:35
it could be a Tyler Reddick that
46:37
uses that speed that shows up
46:39
and goes to a place like Darlington
46:41
that just could pop up and win the race
46:43
Kyle Larson could put himself
46:45
we know that he'll be good here
46:47
in this scenario put himself in a position
46:49
to run up against the fence and so
46:51
when I think of Darlington I know two guys
46:53
are the same two guys that could pound it against
46:55
a fence and knock the total
46:57
link off on lap 5 so you never
46:59
know how it's going to work out
47:03
everybody can make it in on points
47:05
there's no this big gap
47:07
to where you're in a must win situation
47:11
it is very tight really
47:13
from Chase Elliott down
47:21
ruin if you're having a bad day
47:25
just get the best out of it
47:27
do not put yourself in a situation
47:29
where you're almost in must win
47:31
next week because the minute you're in
47:35
especially in this round
47:37
if you can just average a 15th place
47:39
finish through the first few races
47:41
you're going to probably get yourself through
47:45
in this first round you don't want to
47:47
go into that do or die got to win
47:49
you got to do this and get yourself
47:51
so amped up that you start making mistakes
47:53
and hitting stuff and you can take yourself
47:55
out of it way faster than you can keep yourself
47:57
this is where the crew chief is going to be
47:59
super important to locking in
48:03
the pit crew and the driver reminding everyone
48:05
what our plan is what our goal is
48:07
week one let's handle the goal this
48:09
week if it's to finish 15th
48:11
it's to finish 15th if it's to get
48:13
some stage points it's to do that but do not
48:15
get behind and feel like you're behind
48:17
now you got to try too hard
48:19
and then you're picking your stuff out of the fence
48:21
do you like the complexion of tracks in this round
48:27
St. Louis getting put in there
48:29
I think that they do a great job
48:31
it's a great market it's a unique race track
48:33
so I like the fact that we're mixing
48:39
Darlington is its own beast
48:41
and I just like the fact that
48:45
the styles of tracks
48:47
and this first go around
48:49
here at Darlington though it's full day's work
48:55
mess up a little bit and it'll just ruin
48:57
this whole thing for you
48:59
so what is the mindset
49:01
shift like for the competitors
49:03
once this time of the year rolls around
49:05
I just want to stand on your throat
49:09
everybody's not yours
49:11
I think it's just that killer
49:17
there's nothing better than
49:19
knowing that it's just
49:21
it's time to go to war kill mode
49:23
just get into kill mode and just
49:29
means something whether it's
49:31
the first lap of practice or the last lap of the race
49:33
everything in between there
49:35
matters and it could affect
49:39
capitalizing on a day
49:43
all those things it's just all these different goals
49:45
that just are out there to try to
49:47
achieve and they're always changing and moving
49:49
because there's just something that's going to happen
49:51
and how can you react to those bad moments
49:53
to make them into decent days
49:55
and so and capitalizing
49:57
on the good moments and not spinning
49:59
out and trying to be a hero
50:01
and whatever that case may be
50:03
but there's just nothing better
50:05
than locking in with a group
50:07
of people for those 10 weeks
50:09
to try to accomplish winning a championship
50:11
when we were at SHR it was
50:15
it was f**k them all
50:27
and it's really when you're locked in with a group
50:29
everything that you've learned throughout the year
50:33
new process that you thought was going to be quicker
50:35
for the guys or if you found
50:37
Grace that was breaking every week
50:39
and you're like is this something that
50:41
all of it goes into right now
50:43
and everyone is pulling in one direction
50:47
whether you have four cars in it or one car in it
50:49
you're just trying to go win this championship
50:51
and kick everybody in the teeth
50:53
and you got to be willing to do things
50:55
that are outside of your comfort zone
50:57
whether it's take chances
51:03
you got to be willing
51:05
and able to push yourself
51:07
outside of your comfort zone to achieve things
51:09
that you may not have done before
51:11
and push through those hard moments
51:15
the shop air is different
51:19
the minute they got back on Monday
51:21
the air in the everyone
51:25
you're either locking in or you're like
51:27
we're going to be the spoiler
51:29
everyone has something to rate
51:31
and the ones that are willing to make the most sacrifices
51:33
the next ten weeks are going to achieve the most results
51:37
telling your family that I might not be home as much
51:39
it's putting in the extra time
51:41
it's a big commitment
51:43
to go out and win this championship
51:45
this is the point of the year
51:47
where the big transition takes place
51:49
as teams go after a title
51:51
so let's revisit our champion picks
51:53
that we made quite some time ago
52:01
William Byron was yours
52:03
that's what it says here on this sheet
52:07
are you still confident I am in mine
52:09
you can't change them
52:11
you're confident in yours Kevin
52:15
I think if anybody can do it
52:17
it's that team, that crew chief, that driver
52:19
you just can't count them out
52:23
my guy is a regular season champ
52:29
I mean, like I said in the beginning of the year though
52:31
we go back to episode one
52:35
you're going to have to go through 12
52:37
well you're not the regular season champ out of these chairs
52:41
at least you pick somebody who's the regular season champ
52:43
I pick champions, I don't pick winners
52:45
you're not a champion you just pick them
52:47
no I am a champion, I'm a cup series champion
52:51
you pick on Bell you still
52:53
I mean my biggest worry with Bell is the inconsistency
52:55
in the moments right
52:57
I think they're going to be able to go out
52:59
and do those things it's just
53:01
are the misses too big
53:03
and when the moments I look back
53:05
at a place like Dover
53:07
you can't spin out running second
53:11
the moments that could happen
53:13
with Christopher Bell I think that the performance
53:17
you guys have a dark horse
53:19
is that a dark horse?
53:21
oh that's a dark horse
53:23
that's who I would say
53:25
I think it's Reddick
53:29
think that they could wake up
53:33
they have the potential to do it
53:35
so you know it's there it just hasn't been
53:37
what we expected but
53:39
is that 10 week stretch
53:41
and that motivation and that
53:43
is it something to do with the preparation
53:45
is it something to do with whatever
53:49
could be anything but they have the ability
53:51
to just flip the switch
53:53
who's yours I'm writing these down
53:55
I don't I mean I think
53:57
for me it's more who's the most dangerous
53:59
and I said Bubba earlier and
54:01
Briscoe I think those two are the most
54:03
dangerous when it comes to
54:05
what could happen well and here's
54:07
the here's the here's the other scenario
54:09
in order to be the champ
54:11
you gotta beat the champ
54:13
and he's still in the playoffs
54:15
he's still in it and last year he's still in it
54:17
he yelled at me and said don't you ever
54:19
count Joey Logano out
54:21
and he said yes ma'am
54:23
and that's a good point we know
54:25
Joey knows how to do this
54:27
and has done it a time two or three
54:31
for the Sips we got a pretty decent
54:33
list this week what you say
54:35
that's good because I'm thirsty
54:37
that's the only good part about this
54:41
my water's out so I'm over here
54:45
some fans from Phoenix wanted me to
54:47
let you know that this is their favorite part of the show
54:51
my Kiwis out in New Zealand I know you guys
54:53
have been checking in on this show
54:55
Kiwis? Yeah they're Kiwis yeah
54:57
they're homies they watch
54:59
the show they've been engaging on social it's been great
55:01
welcome to Mamba's social
55:03
Sips and we're gonna
55:07
we're gonna start from this weekend
55:09
you guys know I do driver intros
55:11
correct you know I do the handshakes
55:13
with some of these chief hype
55:15
officer in case you didn't know
55:17
he's officially chief hype
55:21
NASCAR yeah which means for
55:23
the drivers because I'm there to make them look cool
55:25
yeah you didn't do that this weekend
55:27
I don't know roll the tape we'll see what happens
55:35
and that's all you posted was that
55:37
little smiley face well I was
55:39
so Jeff Gluck tweeted it
55:41
and then Bleacher Report
55:43
posted the video I just
55:45
quote tweeted it the smiley face
55:47
so what's going on here are you guys
55:49
actual legitimate unhappy with each other
55:51
or I don't know we haven't
55:53
we haven't spoke but then he said this
55:55
you're so cool bro don't let the ratios
55:57
get to you this was after the race
55:59
so he's flying on his jet home
56:01
and he tweeted me this and I said what does that mean
56:05
ratio is like you said
56:07
this and more people
56:09
hated it then liked it
56:11
he's saying more people disagreed
56:13
with me I feel like I'm so
56:15
uncool well that's why
56:21
because you didn't know what that meant
56:23
yeah so here's the thing
56:31
don't you dare in this
56:33
you're not about it
56:35
it was about the tweet
56:37
that I said crowning the champion
56:39
it's about crowning the best team
56:41
not the best driver
56:43
Denny disagreed and then on
56:45
actions detrimental
56:47
shout out to you guys
56:51
and kind of drug me a little bit
56:53
what does that mean
56:55
please explain to the first older
56:57
but the people that don't know he was kind of talking some shit
56:59
and acting like he didn't know who I was
57:05
you can come right here
57:07
on Kevin Harvick's happy hour podcast
57:09
if you have any debate
57:11
or I can come to you
57:13
what do you want to do
57:15
I've seen some people in twitter
57:17
they want to see it
57:21
if you want to talk about whether it's a
57:23
is this a one on one thing
57:25
we'll loan you the set
57:27
we'll put it as two chairs
57:29
I kind of think you should be in the middle of it
57:31
I don't want to be on it
57:37
wherever he wants to be we can talk about it
57:43
I'm not going to back down
57:45
DH where you at my guy
57:47
I thought you were going to end it I'm like oh man
57:49
no apologies here please do that
57:51
no I'm not apologizing for being right
57:57
well that's not how you put it
57:59
you might have to check the tape
58:05
so AI is this thing
58:07
that I really don't love
58:09
is this thing I really don't love
58:11
I don't love however
58:15
asked the AI to predict the next 20
58:17
cup series champions
58:19
this is pretty cool considering
58:21
it agrees with me in this years
58:23
which is William Byron
58:25
the other ones that I think stood out to me
58:27
feeling perfect 2042 champion
58:29
that definitely stood out
58:31
they look like he and Ty Gibbs look like brothers
58:35
yeah we got Jesse Love
58:37
championship Cory Hyme gets one
58:39
I would love to know
58:41
where the AI thinks they're going to be driving
58:43
Hosevar is on there
58:45
I know they're picking drivers
58:47
but you don't know the context exactly
58:49
so this is very intriguing where is Hosevar
58:59
how old will Josh Berry be in 2038
59:03
what is that 13 years from now
59:09
47 year old champion
59:13
running into his Mark Martinare
59:15
trying to get that one done
59:17
that is interesting though
59:19
some people make sense and some don't
59:21
it just depends on where the AI thinks
59:23
that they'll be racing at I think really matters
59:25
because you gotta be on the right team
59:31
especially with that 2042
59:33
KHI might have a cup team by that point
59:35
good luck with that
59:39
one of the coolest things
59:41
that has been happening a lot lately
59:43
is the crossover between
59:45
our sport and other sports
59:47
and we all know that the pit crews
59:49
have a lot of D1 athletes and former
59:53
Joey Logano showed up on campus
59:57
last week and these guys
59:59
on the football team
00:03
they were jacked up
00:05
Joey must have felt like the man
00:07
watch him get out of the car
00:11
I liked the cross promotion with college students
00:13
I went to my first race as a college student
00:15
as a tailgating party experience
00:17
that's what it's supposed to be
00:21
I love the fact that
00:23
we're in this space because
00:25
we use so many of their athletes
00:31
I think that the recruiting
00:33
and things that have happened over the last several years
00:35
when you talk about
00:37
professional athletes, college athletes
00:39
people have no idea
00:41
we tell them about it all the time
00:43
but a lot of people don't put all this together
00:45
and it's a great way for
00:47
a lot of these kids that don't make it
00:49
to go make a living
00:51
and still be competitive and do something that's
00:53
pretty freaking awesome
00:55
there's probably 70 kids on that team
00:57
how many of them are going to go pro
00:59
it's a very small selection
01:01
if you can expose them kids now
01:05
when you're done here, that's cool, enjoy it
01:07
this is also an avenue
01:09
but when you're done, if you don't make it here
01:13
you ever jumped in front of a 3500 pound car?
01:15
pretty sick, you want to play Frogger for real?
01:19
kudos to whoever put that together
01:21
guys we got a mail bag this week
01:25
from our friend in New York
01:29
man I always mess up his name
01:31
no, go ahead and say Irfan
01:35
thank you everybody that helped me with that
01:37
Irfan from New York
01:41
throughout your hall of fame career
01:43
you've had a lot of fast cars
01:45
but which specific car
01:47
would you say was your best
01:49
I'm going to take a guess and say it was the 2015
01:55
I would say that one's pretty good
01:57
but I would say that's not it
01:59
I can't remember the exact year
02:01
but I lapped the whole field
02:03
at Atlanta all the way
02:05
in the Xfinity race
02:09
threw a water bottle out with two laps to go
02:11
as I was lapping him, I think he was third
02:13
and they threw the freaking caution
02:15
and we lost the race
02:19
I think I slapped him in the face
02:21
in the media center
02:23
as I was walking off
02:25
I slapped him in the cheek
02:27
and said I hope you sleep good tonight
02:29
would you slap him with your hand
02:33
I always think about
02:43
when everyone was talking about the window brace
02:45
remember they were talking about the window brace
02:47
and you get out in one
02:49
and you slap the back window
02:51
it's all good everybody
02:55
we're talking about lapping the whole freaking field
02:59
you're not supposed to do that
03:01
the only guy in front of me was going to be second
03:03
and I could see him
03:05
thanks to a water bottle
03:07
trying to put on the show
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04:11
Let's take a look at the best bet of the weekend courtesy of draft Kings. Yeah. Well, it was Ryan Blaney
04:16
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04:25
I'd say there were some people that made some money off of that King's definitely knew I wasn't picking him really
04:30
Well, yeah, because you know my picks usually end up like how Bush did this week, which is up in flames
04:35
Yeah, not great. So you're a curse
04:41
Well, it didn't know how I didn't heard the championship run so far. So, you know, yeah, yeah, okay
04:47
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04:49
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There you go. And the crown was Ryan Blaney's it's time now to grade the Blaney burnout. What say you Kevin?
05:14
I thought it was I thought it was a little bit above average not gonna put it into our best
05:21
Category but it was very unique because when he when he gets this going right here
05:25
You're gonna see him slide down the banking
05:27
But the fact that we've got Ryan Blaney doing burnouts
05:30
I think he's finally outgrown that that would brothers phase of not tearing up the cars
05:34
But this was pretty interesting right here
05:36
He just burned the tires down as he was creeping down the banking right here
05:40
Hard to do burnouts at Daytona because of the the banking
05:44
I'm glad that he didn't get stuck right here with it with the car high-centered, but
05:49
Still still kind of cool and Blaney's always gonna give the flag to a to a young fan
05:53
So yeah, he's kind of settled into his thing being comfortable doing the burnouts, but
05:58
Little above average. Yeah, and also when he gets out it's reminds me
06:02
It's not as much as AJ Elmendanger, but when he gets out he's like hyping the crowd up
06:07
He's at him like the showmanship like that's what
06:10
When you win it's too hard to win
06:13
So when you win show me you love that you just did and that's one thing we've talked about this with
06:19
SVG on this show and just being able to to feed into that show and that showmanship that goes with it
06:25
Nobody wants you to be boring and Blaney has definitely that Blaney has definitely figured the showmanship part of it out
06:31
So that's cool. Good for him. Good for Blaney good for Kevin as well
06:34
Because the regular season point standings are reflecting that Kevin won. That's good at 124
06:42
Caitlyn 70 that's an ass-kicking
06:46
I just enjoy it so much
06:48
We get fully lapped. Yeah, it was pretty close. Yeah, it was pretty now. You're gonna throw your water bottle out
06:55
We're gonna reset the point. I had to do something to the advantage. Yep. So now you're gonna throw the water bottle out
07:00
We're gonna reset the point. Yeah, okay
07:01
And we appreciate the 500 plus people who submitted their picks over the weekend because we are encouraging all of the closers to get in on
07:07
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07:10
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07:16
Who you believe can win out at Darlington this weekend? Oh?
07:20
58 58 people actually picked Ryan Blaney
07:22
And I think all those people that followed along with my pick you learn that you could lose sometimes
07:31
There's the QR code to go ahead and scan that to join us on making our selection
07:36
So Kevin, do you want to go first? Well first off? That's a great first week of followers for a little game here
07:43
Yeah, so the closers show up whenever they know what's up on well
07:47
We got our asses kicked by the fans this week picking Ryan Blaney
07:51
So let's not do that again. I'm gonna take William Byron Byron. There you go coming out of the gate strong. What do you say, Mamba?
08:00
I wasn't ready for you to come to me so quick. I'm gonna go chase briscoe. Okay chase briscoe. Yep. Yeah, well
08:06
He did good there last year one here last year
08:09
I'm going with the driver that won there in 2023 Kyle arson the person
08:13
I think he's gonna win the championship. How many times do you think she's gonna pick Kyle arson?
08:16
I've only picked him I think like oh
08:22
She wants to win it all Kevin's picking William Byron and I understand he will be your Thursday
08:27
Conversation he is. Yeah, we've got William Byron on the show this year regular season champ
08:32
We figure we needed to at least
08:35
Get the regular season champ on here to have a one-on-one
08:39
Conversation about his season the way things have been going
08:41
A little more in depth new girlfriend because everyone's talking about this his new girlfriend. He had a woman on pit road
08:55
You should yeah, he's I think he's in a different space, and I think I don't know how much you've been around him
09:00
This year to this year, and I just think that you'll be interested to yeah
09:04
Well, I think a lot of that is just maturity. Yeah, it's growing up. It's not just maturity as a race car driver
09:09
It's just life and these kids are young
09:12
Yeah, in the cup series for a very long time, but they're young and he's only the way
09:16
What it what is my wife always says well your frontal lobe doesn't really develop until you're 25 in your brain
09:22
So I hear that most of us and I see how I see how dumb boys can be young boys
09:28
So I think it just takes a while William Byron all groans up. Yeah, we look forward to it
09:34
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09:39
We'll see everybody after Darlington