Rico Abreu on Dirt vs. NASCAR, & Driving for Tony Stewart!
About this episode
Rico Abreu talks about joining Tony Stewart’s organization on the dirt side and how Stewart’s involvement shifts depending on results. He describes leading the championship points halfway through the season, then gets into sprint-car strategy—how “The cars change as the fuel load burns off” and why he adjusts with “our wings” late in races. Abreu also discusses sprint-car growth through streaming and High Limit’s transparency, his path from go-karts, and how sim racing helps younger drivers get competitive quickly.
Tony Stewart
"All right, so my first question... when I went to work for Tony Stewart, like I got hired and he was still driving... How, how has it been working for Tony and being successful so far? ... It's been quite interesting to work back and forth with Tony on things."
Tony Stewart is a famous race car driver and team owner. Here, Rico talks about what it’s like to work for Stewart’s team and how Stewart stays involved when the team is winning or struggling.
Tony Stewart is a well-known NASCAR and dirt-track racing figure who also runs a racing organization. In this segment, Rico Abreu describes working for Stewart and how Stewart’s feedback changes depending on whether the team is performing well or poorly.
dirt side of things
"He's definitely changed a lot. It's been a lot of fun to navigate just being a part of his organization here on the dirt side of things. And continuing to set that bar as a championship caliber race team."
“Dirt side of things” means racing on dirt tracks instead of pavement. Dirt racing is trickier because the surface changes, so the car and driving approach have to adapt.
“Dirt side of things” refers to racing on dirt tracks, which typically require different car setup and driving techniques than paved NASCAR-style circuits. In dirt racing, traction changes constantly, so teams focus heavily on how the car behaves as the track evolves.
championship caliber race team
"It's been a lot of fun to navigate just being a part of his organization here on the dirt side of things. And continuing to set that bar as a championship caliber race team. He calls when we run good and he calls when we run bad."
A “championship caliber race team” is a top-level team that aims to win the season, not just have a good day. Rico says Stewart pays attention to results and the conversations change based on how the team is doing.
A “championship caliber race team” means a team built and managed to consistently contend for the season title, not just win occasional races. Rico ties this to Stewart’s involvement—calling when the team runs well versus when it runs poorly.
championship leader
"And now to be the championship point leader, you know, halfway through the season has been pretty cool."
A “championship point leader” is the person leading the season standings. Rico is saying he’s in first place in points halfway through the season, which means he’s been doing really well overall.
A “championship point leader” is the driver currently at the top of the season standings based on accumulated points. Rico mentions being the point leader halfway through the season, which signals strong overall performance across multiple events.
Eagle Raceway
"And I think to, you know, get a few big wins, Eagle Raceway, we got a big win earlier in June."
Eagle Raceway is a dirt-racing track. Winning there matters because each track has its own surface and layout, so you have to drive and set up the car differently than at other tracks.
Eagle Raceway is a dirt-track venue where Rico Abreu has notched big wins. In dirt racing, the track layout and surface grip can strongly influence car setup and driving style, so winning at a specific facility is a meaningful bragging point.
Eldor race
"The Eldor race is 70 stern on Thursday. We're looking forward to seeing it. What is so cool about racing to Eldor?"
“Eldor” sounds like a big dirt-racing event that drivers really want to do well at. It’s considered prestigious, so it’s a big deal when you race there and perform well.
“Eldor” appears to be a dirt-racing event/venue that Rico Abreu describes as having major prestige in the dirt community. In dirt racing, certain marquee races become targets for drivers because they’re well-known, heavily competed, and often influence championship momentum.
search for grip
"Just the flows of the track and where you're able to search for grip around that facility and get your car right."
“Search for grip” means you’re trying to find where the tires can actually stick to the track. Dirt tracks can get slick or grabby in different spots, so the driver has to keep adjusting.
“Search for grip” describes the driver’s process of finding traction lines and throttle/braking points as the surface changes. On dirt, grip can vary dramatically across the track and over time, so drivers constantly adapt their racing line to keep the car fast and controlled.
sprint car race
"And then as I've matured through my career, allow these races to play out, you know, 40 laps in a spring car race is quite a bit. The cars change as the fuel load burns off."
A “spring car race” is basically sprint-car racing on dirt. These races are short and intense, so the track and the car’s feel can change a lot during the run.
A “spring car race” refers to sprint-car racing, a dirt discipline known for short races and high emphasis on car setup and driver adaptation. The mention of 40 laps highlights how quickly conditions and car balance can change in this format.
fuel load
"The cars change as the fuel load burns off. So we have these big 30 gallon fuel tanks on the back of our cars and it's met then all is like six pounds a gallon."
Fuel load just means how much fuel is in the car. As the race goes on and the fuel burns off, the car gets lighter, and that can change how it handles and sticks to the track.
Fuel load is the amount of fuel carried in the car at a given moment. As the race progresses and fuel burns off, the car gets lighter, which changes balance, traction, and how the car responds—especially on dirt where grip can shift quickly.
25 gallon fuel tank
"So we have these big 30 gallon fuel tanks on the back of our cars and it's met then all is like six pounds a gallon."
That’s the size of the fuel tank—30 gallons. Because the tank is so big, the car’s weight changes a lot as the fuel runs down, and that can make the car feel different from start to finish.
“30 gallon fuel tanks” refers to the large fuel capacity used in sprint-style dirt cars. The bigger the tank, the more the car’s weight changes over a race as fuel is consumed, which affects handling and often forces drivers to adapt lap-by-lap.
wings
"And, you know, I just like to adjust to that with our wings and get the car really fast at the end of the race."
“Wings” are parts on the car that push it down onto the track. That helps the tires grip better, and it can be adjusted to help the car handle as the race changes.
In dirt racing, “wings” are aerodynamic devices mounted to the car to generate downforce. More downforce increases tire grip and stability, and drivers/teams may tune or adjust wing setup to match how the car’s balance changes as fuel burns off and the track evolves.
FS1
"We see high limits start. You talk about FS1 and the streaming side of things."
FS1 is a TV sports channel (Fox Sports 1). The guest is mentioning it to show that these races are getting more visibility on bigger platforms.
FS1 is Fox Sports 1, a U.S. cable/satellite sports channel that carries motorsports and other live events. The guest mentions FS1 to explain how sprint car races are reaching fans through mainstream TV and streaming.
streaming rights
"So what's been created here is you have two series fighting over streaming rights to events and these events, this anticipation, there's obviously the streaming side of things behind the scenes."
Streaming rights are the deals that decide which company or platform gets to show the races online. The guest is saying that competition for those deals is changing how fans watch and how teams get funded.
Streaming rights are the contracts that determine who can show events online (and often on which platforms). The guest describes two series competing for streaming rights, which drives how fans watch races and how much money flows into teams.
sprint car team
"But I think the biggest thing is that the transparency from high limit for the team owners and now the team owners are becoming in position to financially be sustainable to run a sprint car team at a high level."
A sprint car team is the group that runs a sprint car race program. It includes the driver and the people who prepare the car and manage race weekends, and the guest is saying money from racing and fans helps keep the team going.
A sprint car team is the racing organization that fields a sprint car (a small, high-power open-wheel race car) and coordinates drivers, car setup, and race-day operations. In this segment, the guest is talking about how team funding and revenue streams affect whether a sprint car team can run at a high level.
World of Outlaws
"So if you're on an off weekend, you can go compete at a World of Allah race and you see it where the world of Allah is evolving to that now too, which is interesting."
World of Outlaws is a big dirt-track sprint car racing series. The guest is saying High Limit is now letting drivers go race in those events too, not just stay inside one schedule.
World of Outlaws is a major sprint car racing series in the U.S., known for a national tour of dirt-track events. In this segment, it’s referenced as the kind of race the High Limit series is now cross-pollinating with on off weekends.
High Limit series
"It's been really cool to see the creation and evolution of the High Limit series."
The High Limit series is a sprint car racing tour. The guest is describing how it’s grown and how it’s changed the business side—like streaming and fan interest—so teams can keep operating.
The High Limit series is a sprint car racing series that’s positioned around modern promotion and event production, including streaming and fan engagement. Here, the guest frames it as evolving quickly and helping teams become financially sustainable.
Craftsman Truck Series
"But I remember when you were in NASCAR with us in the craftsman truck series because I was covering you on pit lane at that time."
The Craftsman Truck Series is NASCAR racing, but with race trucks instead of cars. The guest is saying he was in that series at one point and is reflecting on how different it was from sprint car racing.
The Craftsman Truck Series is NASCAR’s top-level competition for pickup trucks, featuring purpose-built race trucks and a full schedule of oval and road-course events. The guest recalls being in this series during his NASCAR stint and compares it to sprint car racing.
pit lane
"But I remember when you were in NASCAR with us in the craftsman truck series because I was covering you on pit lane at that time."
Pit lane is the area next to the track where race teams go to work on the car during a race. The guest is saying the host was watching from that area while he raced.
Pit lane is the service lane beside the track where teams stop for adjustments and refueling/tires (depending on the series rules). Mentioning pit lane signals that the guest’s NASCAR experience involved hands-on race operations and close access to teams.
sprint car racing
"[551.5s] And just being around the right people, I think was the big thing there in the second stage of that. [556.2s] And I fell in love with sprint car racing and I'm sticking to it. [559.9s] Hey, man, you're crushing it over there."
Sprint car racing is a type of dirt-track race with open-wheel cars. The cars are made to be fast and handle really well on short, bumpy tracks.
Sprint car racing is a form of open-wheel dirt-track racing, typically run on short ovals. Cars are lightweight, high-powered, and built for quick acceleration and sliding around the corners on dirt.
TSR
"[569.6s] Kevin, Kevin with his race team, like I knew everyone knew Delano was really the boss. You know what I mean? [576.1s] So now with Leah in the picture over at TSR, like who's really the boss now? [581.9s] Is it still, is Tony still the boss or is Leah kind of running the show? What's the deal?"
TSR is the name of a racing team/operation mentioned in the conversation. The speaker is using it to talk about who’s running things day to day.
TSR is referenced as a racing organization/team in the transcript, tied to Leah Stewart’s role. In dirt/NASCAR circles, team acronyms like this usually identify the outfit that runs cars, logistics, and operations.
road motorcycles
"[619.6s] Yeah, so I started racing at 16 years old. So I went through middle school, you know, elementary school and I played sports, [627.7s] little league and road motorcycles and my, my parents were in the wine industry. [632.1s] So my father's a vineyard manager of viticulture is very well known in the wine industry and does an amazing job with his business."
Road motorcycles are regular street bikes you can ride on public roads. The point here is that he had early experience riding and controlling bikes before getting into racing.
Road motorcycles are street-legal bikes ridden on public roads, as opposed to off-road or track-only machines. Mentioning them suggests the driver grew up with hands-on experience controlling vehicles at speed before moving into racing.
go-karts
"[632.1s] So my father's a vineyard manager of viticulture is very well known in the wine industry and does an amazing job with his business. [639.0s] And I've always been outdoors and around tractors and driving tractors at a young age and my neighbors actually when I was 10 or 11 years old started racing go-karts. [650.5s] So I started going to the go-kart races with them and that's what got me really interested in just that side of motor sports."
Go-karts are small race cars that a lot of drivers start with when they’re kids. They help you learn how to drive fast and race against other people.
Go-karts are small, low-cost racing vehicles often used as a training step for future racers. Many drivers start in karting because it teaches racecraft—like steering inputs, braking points, and racing lines—at a young age.
tractors
"[586.1s] I knew, I knew things were, you know, Leah and Tony are great to be around and I know with how busy their lives are. [595.3s] They don't get to the shop much, but I knew something was up when I came in and there was a Leah Stewart racing logo on one of the tractors. [604.2s] I said, I know who signs the checks in here now."
Tractors are farm machines used for working fields. He’s saying he grew up around them, which helped him get comfortable with vehicles early.
Tractors are farm vehicles used for field work, and in racing backgrounds they often show up as early exposure to vehicle handling and mechanical systems. In this context, it’s part of how he grew up around equipment and driving.
Brent Cady
"[688.2s] So I had a little disadvantage there and I, you know, it was right when racing was becoming a big part of my life and really motivated to be a race car driver at that time and kept racing go-karts. [700.2s] And then Brent Cady and actually came up to me at a racetrack, a go-kart race and said that he could build me a sprint car and at 18 years old, it kind of all took off from there for me. [710.8s] And I just, I turned 34 in January, so I've been racing for about 15 years sprint cars."
Brent Cady is the person who encouraged him and helped him move up by offering to build him a sprint car. It’s a turning point in how he got started in sprint-car racing.
Brent Cady is named as the person who approached the speaker at a go-kart race and offered to build him a sprint car. That makes Cady a key figure in the speaker’s path from karting into sprint-car racing.
Kyle Larson
"[710.8s] And I just, I turned 34 in January, so I've been racing for about 15 years sprint cars. [717.5s] That is awesome. And I know you met Kyle Larson at a charity event and he kind of had a hand in introducing the sprint car side too. "
Kyle Larson is a famous race driver. The guest is saying they met at a charity event and Larson helped point him toward sprint-car racing.
Kyle Larson is mentioned as someone the guest met at a charity event, where Larson helped introduce him to the sprint car side. Larson is a well-known top-level American racer, so his involvement signals credibility and cross-discipline connections.
Sim stuff
"And I think, you know, the sim stuff has really evolved that for our generation and these kids get in multiple different race cars and are very competitive right away."
“Sim stuff” means racing video-game/computer training. It helps drivers practice how to drive and learn tracks without using a real race car every time.
“Sim stuff” refers to racing simulation—computer-based training that lets drivers practice car setup, lines, and racecraft without being on track. In modern motorsport, sims have improved enough that younger drivers can get up to speed faster before stepping into real cars.
sprint car drivers
"So it's been an honor to transition the race for Tony and get to the next step where I want to be in my career as a sprint car driver."
A sprint car driver races a specific type of race car on short tracks. These cars are built to be fast and agile, and the driving style is different from bigger stock-car racing.
A sprint car driver competes in sprint car racing, typically on short oval tracks with lightweight, high-power cars designed for quick acceleration and heavy cornering. Sprint cars are a distinct discipline from NASCAR-style stock cars, with different vehicle behavior and race strategy.
high limit schedule
"And when you race for an 80, you know, 62 race high limit schedule of a championship, it gets really challenging at certain points of the year."
A “high limit schedule” means a very busy season with lots of big races. It’s basically describing how many events you have to race in a year.
A “high limit schedule” refers to a packed sprint car racing calendar featuring high-profile events (often with larger fields and bigger purses). It’s used here to describe how intense the season is, not a specific car part or setup.
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