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Rico Abreu on Dirt vs. NASCAR, & Driving for Tony Stewart!

Rico Abreu on Dirt vs. NASCAR, & Driving for Tony Stewart!

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Rico Abreu talks about joining Tony Stewart’s organization on the dirt side and how Stewart’s involvement shifts depending on results. He describes leading the championship points halfway through the season, then gets into sprint-car strategy—how “The cars change as the fuel load burns off” and why he adjusts with “our wings” late in races. Abreu also discusses sprint-car growth through streaming and High Limit’s transparency, his path from go-karts, and how sim racing helps younger drivers get competitive quickly.

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Tony Stewart

"All right, so my first question... when I went to work for Tony Stewart, like I got hired and he was still driving... How, how has it been working for Tony and being successful so far? ... It's been quite interesting to work back and forth with Tony on things."

Tony Stewart is a famous race car driver and team owner. Here, Rico talks about what it’s like to work for Stewart’s team and how Stewart stays involved when the team is winning or struggling.

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dirt side of things

"He's definitely changed a lot. It's been a lot of fun to navigate just being a part of his organization here on the dirt side of things. And continuing to set that bar as a championship caliber race team."

“Dirt side of things” means racing on dirt tracks instead of pavement. Dirt racing is trickier because the surface changes, so the car and driving approach have to adapt.

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championship caliber race team

"It's been a lot of fun to navigate just being a part of his organization here on the dirt side of things. And continuing to set that bar as a championship caliber race team. He calls when we run good and he calls when we run bad."

A “championship caliber race team” is a top-level team that aims to win the season, not just have a good day. Rico says Stewart pays attention to results and the conversations change based on how the team is doing.

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championship leader

"And now to be the championship point leader, you know, halfway through the season has been pretty cool."

A “championship point leader” is the person leading the season standings. Rico is saying he’s in first place in points halfway through the season, which means he’s been doing really well overall.

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Eagle Raceway

"And I think to, you know, get a few big wins, Eagle Raceway, we got a big win earlier in June."

Eagle Raceway is a dirt-racing track. Winning there matters because each track has its own surface and layout, so you have to drive and set up the car differently than at other tracks.

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Eldor race

"The Eldor race is 70 stern on Thursday. We're looking forward to seeing it. What is so cool about racing to Eldor?"

“Eldor” sounds like a big dirt-racing event that drivers really want to do well at. It’s considered prestigious, so it’s a big deal when you race there and perform well.

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search for grip

"Just the flows of the track and where you're able to search for grip around that facility and get your car right."

“Search for grip” means you’re trying to find where the tires can actually stick to the track. Dirt tracks can get slick or grabby in different spots, so the driver has to keep adjusting.

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sprint car race

"And then as I've matured through my career, allow these races to play out, you know, 40 laps in a spring car race is quite a bit. The cars change as the fuel load burns off."

A “spring car race” is basically sprint-car racing on dirt. These races are short and intense, so the track and the car’s feel can change a lot during the run.

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fuel load

"The cars change as the fuel load burns off. So we have these big 30 gallon fuel tanks on the back of our cars and it's met then all is like six pounds a gallon."

Fuel load just means how much fuel is in the car. As the race goes on and the fuel burns off, the car gets lighter, and that can change how it handles and sticks to the track.

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25 gallon fuel tank

"So we have these big 30 gallon fuel tanks on the back of our cars and it's met then all is like six pounds a gallon."

That’s the size of the fuel tank—30 gallons. Because the tank is so big, the car’s weight changes a lot as the fuel runs down, and that can make the car feel different from start to finish.

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wings

"And, you know, I just like to adjust to that with our wings and get the car really fast at the end of the race."

“Wings” are parts on the car that push it down onto the track. That helps the tires grip better, and it can be adjusted to help the car handle as the race changes.

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FS1

"We see high limits start. You talk about FS1 and the streaming side of things."

FS1 is a TV sports channel (Fox Sports 1). The guest is mentioning it to show that these races are getting more visibility on bigger platforms.

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streaming rights

"So what's been created here is you have two series fighting over streaming rights to events and these events, this anticipation, there's obviously the streaming side of things behind the scenes."

Streaming rights are the deals that decide which company or platform gets to show the races online. The guest is saying that competition for those deals is changing how fans watch and how teams get funded.

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sprint car team

"But I think the biggest thing is that the transparency from high limit for the team owners and now the team owners are becoming in position to financially be sustainable to run a sprint car team at a high level."

A sprint car team is the group that runs a sprint car race program. It includes the driver and the people who prepare the car and manage race weekends, and the guest is saying money from racing and fans helps keep the team going.

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World of Outlaws

"So if you're on an off weekend, you can go compete at a World of Allah race and you see it where the world of Allah is evolving to that now too, which is interesting."

World of Outlaws is a big dirt-track sprint car racing series. The guest is saying High Limit is now letting drivers go race in those events too, not just stay inside one schedule.

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High Limit series

"It's been really cool to see the creation and evolution of the High Limit series."

The High Limit series is a sprint car racing tour. The guest is describing how it’s grown and how it’s changed the business side—like streaming and fan interest—so teams can keep operating.

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Craftsman Truck Series

"But I remember when you were in NASCAR with us in the craftsman truck series because I was covering you on pit lane at that time."

The Craftsman Truck Series is NASCAR racing, but with race trucks instead of cars. The guest is saying he was in that series at one point and is reflecting on how different it was from sprint car racing.

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pit lane

"But I remember when you were in NASCAR with us in the craftsman truck series because I was covering you on pit lane at that time."

Pit lane is the area next to the track where race teams go to work on the car during a race. The guest is saying the host was watching from that area while he raced.

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sprint car racing

"[551.5s] And just being around the right people, I think was the big thing there in the second stage of that. [556.2s] And I fell in love with sprint car racing and I'm sticking to it. [559.9s] Hey, man, you're crushing it over there."

Sprint car racing is a type of dirt-track race with open-wheel cars. The cars are made to be fast and handle really well on short, bumpy tracks.

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TSR

"[569.6s] Kevin, Kevin with his race team, like I knew everyone knew Delano was really the boss. You know what I mean? [576.1s] So now with Leah in the picture over at TSR, like who's really the boss now? [581.9s] Is it still, is Tony still the boss or is Leah kind of running the show? What's the deal?"

TSR is the name of a racing team/operation mentioned in the conversation. The speaker is using it to talk about who’s running things day to day.

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road motorcycles

"[619.6s] Yeah, so I started racing at 16 years old. So I went through middle school, you know, elementary school and I played sports, [627.7s] little league and road motorcycles and my, my parents were in the wine industry. [632.1s] So my father's a vineyard manager of viticulture is very well known in the wine industry and does an amazing job with his business."

Road motorcycles are regular street bikes you can ride on public roads. The point here is that he had early experience riding and controlling bikes before getting into racing.

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go-karts

"[632.1s] So my father's a vineyard manager of viticulture is very well known in the wine industry and does an amazing job with his business. [639.0s] And I've always been outdoors and around tractors and driving tractors at a young age and my neighbors actually when I was 10 or 11 years old started racing go-karts. [650.5s] So I started going to the go-kart races with them and that's what got me really interested in just that side of motor sports."

Go-karts are small race cars that a lot of drivers start with when they’re kids. They help you learn how to drive fast and race against other people.

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tractors

"[586.1s] I knew, I knew things were, you know, Leah and Tony are great to be around and I know with how busy their lives are. [595.3s] They don't get to the shop much, but I knew something was up when I came in and there was a Leah Stewart racing logo on one of the tractors. [604.2s] I said, I know who signs the checks in here now."

Tractors are farm machines used for working fields. He’s saying he grew up around them, which helped him get comfortable with vehicles early.

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Brent Cady

"[688.2s] So I had a little disadvantage there and I, you know, it was right when racing was becoming a big part of my life and really motivated to be a race car driver at that time and kept racing go-karts. [700.2s] And then Brent Cady and actually came up to me at a racetrack, a go-kart race and said that he could build me a sprint car and at 18 years old, it kind of all took off from there for me. [710.8s] And I just, I turned 34 in January, so I've been racing for about 15 years sprint cars."

Brent Cady is the person who encouraged him and helped him move up by offering to build him a sprint car. It’s a turning point in how he got started in sprint-car racing.

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Kyle Larson

"[710.8s] And I just, I turned 34 in January, so I've been racing for about 15 years sprint cars. [717.5s] That is awesome. And I know you met Kyle Larson at a charity event and he kind of had a hand in introducing the sprint car side too. "

Kyle Larson is a famous race driver. The guest is saying they met at a charity event and Larson helped point him toward sprint-car racing.

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Sim stuff

"And I think, you know, the sim stuff has really evolved that for our generation and these kids get in multiple different race cars and are very competitive right away."

“Sim stuff” means racing video-game/computer training. It helps drivers practice how to drive and learn tracks without using a real race car every time.

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sprint car drivers

"So it's been an honor to transition the race for Tony and get to the next step where I want to be in my career as a sprint car driver."

A sprint car driver races a specific type of race car on short tracks. These cars are built to be fast and agile, and the driving style is different from bigger stock-car racing.

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high limit schedule

"And when you race for an 80, you know, 62 race high limit schedule of a championship, it gets really challenging at certain points of the year."

A “high limit schedule” means a very busy season with lots of big races. It’s basically describing how many events you have to race in a year.

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