A company vehicle is a car provided or used for work purposes rather than personal ownership. Here, the host notes the hearse is a “company vehicle,” framing it as part of the guest’s funeral business operations.
An auction is where cars get sold by bidding—people compete to offer the most money. In this story, it’s part of how the guest ended up with the vehicle.
Car
limo
A limo is a long, fancy car used with a driver for special occasions. The guest is saying they used to have one for work but don’t anymore.
Car
minivan
A minivan is a roomy family vehicle, often used for lots of people and errands. Here it’s mentioned as a previous work vehicle before switching to hearses.
They’re talking about a company that built or owned the vehicle before it was modified. Later, it was changed to better fit funeral-casket loading needs.
This is a special back-floor setup in the vehicle. It’s designed to help slide a casket forward more easily using rollers, instead of moving it by hand.
They’re describing the same idea as a loading floor: a built-in platform that makes it easier to load a casket. The goal is smoother, safer movement during loading.
The platform has small rollers inside it. That way, when you put the casket on, it can slide/roll forward more easily.
Term
beer pin
They’re talking about a small locking/holding pin at the end of the platform. Its job is to keep the casket from moving while people are watching or listening.
They’re talking about shiny trim on the vertical posts around the windows. It’s mostly for appearance, giving the vehicle a more traditional funeral-car style.
Term
land out bar
They mention an extra decorative bar on the window area. The exact name in the transcript is unclear, but it’s describing styling details on the vehicle.
People often think bourbon has to be made in Kentucky to count. But the rules for what makes bourbon “bourbon” matter more than the state it’s made in.
They’re referencing reports that some Tesla electric cars caught fire. With EVs, people often focus on what could cause a battery to overheat and how those situations are handled.
A car show is where people bring cars to display and talk about them. In this case, people were curious because the vehicle being shown wasn’t what they expected.
A Honda Odyssey is a minivan—basically a family vehicle with lots of seats and space. The host is saying people were surprised to see one show up at the car show.
The Acura Integra is a sporty compact car from Acura. The speaker is talking about how his old Integra had VTEC branding, which is a big deal to car fans.
They’re talking about a website where people buy and sell cars for enthusiasts. It’s like a classifieds site, but more focused on cars people actually want to modify or race.
“Controlling interest” means owning enough of a company to make the big decisions. The hosts are saying Honda wanted that level of control in a potential deal, and Nissan didn’t agree.
The segment cites a large EV development loss (around “20 billion”) as the reason Honda is pulling back. This highlights how high R&D spending without near-term returns can force manufacturers to change product plans and investment priorities.
The Nissan GT-R is a high-performance sports car. People talk about it because it’s built to be very fast and exciting to drive. In the episode, it’s mentioned as something that might be returning.
The hosts discuss how AI can generate convincing images that circulate as “news,” making it hard to tell what’s real. They recommend cross-referencing with credible reporting to separate genuine product updates from fabricated posts.
A hybrid is a car that uses gas and electricity together. The idea is to get better mileage than a regular gas-only car, and the hosts are talking about which brands are leaning into that.
The Acura RDX is a small luxury SUV. The conversation is basically about whether it’s a great car overall, and what they don’t like about it—especially the infotainment system.
Infotainment is the screen and controls you use for music, maps, and phone features. In this episode, the host says they don’t like how it works in the Acura RDX.
Massaging seats are seats that have built-in vibration to help you relax while driving. In the conversation, they’re treated like a feature meant to make the car more appealing.
Captain’s chairs are individual seats, not a single long bench. The conversation is about how that seating layout can be adjusted when you need an extra seat.
They’re referring to the Ford EcoBoost engine—basically a turbo gas engine. It’s the 3.5-liter version, and it’s known for being a strong, efficient choice in the F-150.
Cam phasers help the engine open and close valves at the right times. When they have problems, the engine can run poorly or make noises, and it may trigger warning lights.
The timing chain helps the engine’s internal parts stay in sync. Guides are like supports for that chain—if they wear out, timing can get off and the engine can be at risk.
They mention Range Rover to make the point that even brands with a reputation for problems don’t have every single car failing. Maintenance and the specific vehicle matter a lot.
They bring up McLaren to say that even expensive performance brands don’t all have the same reliability story. Some cars are generally better regarded than others.
They’re talking about how people judge car brands based on how often they break. Their point is that reputation isn’t destiny—how you maintain the car matters too.
The Infiniti QX60 is a luxury SUV meant to be comfortable and easy to live with. The point here is that it looks good, but the experience didn’t match what the speaker expected.
The Lexus GX 550 is a luxury SUV that’s built for durability and rougher use. The big takeaway is that it’s hard to get (dealers allocate them), and it drives more like a truck than a typical smooth family crossover.
The BMW 5 Series is a luxury sedan, meaning it’s a car focused on comfort and nicer features. The speaker is saying it didn’t feel like the right choice for them. It’s part of a comparison of different cars they considered.
Sometimes popular cars aren’t sold like normal “pick your options and order it.” Instead, dealers get a limited number of cars, so you may wait and only be able to choose from what arrives.
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a tough, long-lasting SUV that’s built for rough roads. The speaker is saying the Lexus GX 550 feels closely related to it, just with more luxury features.
The Acura MDX Type S is a sportier, higher-performance version of the MDX family SUV. The speaker is comparing it to other SUVs and saying it won most categories, even if it wasn’t the strongest on power.
A tweeter is a small speaker designed to reproduce high-frequency audio. Mentioning a “driver side door tweeter” suggests an audio system issue (likely distortion or failure) that’s significant enough to trigger a warranty call.
This is a safety feature meant to detect an obstacle and stop the seat from moving. The concern described is that the seat didn’t stop when it should have.
A stop sale means the company pauses selling certain cars until they fix a problem. It’s usually done for safety reasons so people don’t buy a vehicle with a known issue.
Power seats are seats you move with buttons or a switch instead of manually. Here, they’re talking about how the power seats move and why it matters for keeping kids safe around the seat mechanisms.
Company
Doug DeMiro
They mention Doug DeMiro as the source of a related discussion they were listening to. It’s mainly there to give context for the opinion they’re sharing.
Concept
technology vs. a lever you pull
The speaker contrasts automated/technology-driven controls with simple mechanical controls (like a lever). The underlying idea is that while tech can add convenience, mechanical controls can be more predictable and fail less dramatically in edge cases.
Donut Media is a car-focused YouTube channel and media company. They make videos (and sometimes podcasts), and the conversation is about how the team changed over time.
“Up to Speed” is a recurring series where the channel breaks down car topics in a fun, easy-to-follow way. The host is saying they really liked those episodes.
The Acura NSX is a sporty Acura that’s built more like a performance car than a regular commuter. People like it because it’s fast and feels special to drive.
The Jeep Grand Wagoneer is a big, premium SUV. The “L” version is longer, which usually means more space for passengers. The speaker is talking about renting one and driving it.
The Jeep Grand Cherokee is an SUV made for both regular driving and light off-road use. It’s designed to handle different road conditions while still being comfortable. In the podcast, it’s part of the speaker’s Jeep experience and what they’ve driven.
The Lamborghini Huracán is a very high-performance sports car. The speaker is describing its engine setup as part of what makes it special. It’s mentioned because it’s one of the well-known supercars people pay attention to.
Term
Hurricane V6
The “Hurricane V6” is the name of the engine in that big Jeep. It’s basically what provides the power, and the speaker is saying it feels very strong.
Concept
electric bugaboos
The speaker is basically saying people worry about the car’s electronics or electric systems. Even if there are concerns, they still think it looks cool and is fun to drive.
The Chevrolet Tahoe is a big SUV people commonly cross-shop when they want lots of space. The speaker is saying the Jeep is a cool alternative to that kind of vehicle.
The GMC Yukon is a large SUV that many people think of when they want a big, comfortable vehicle. The speaker is saying the Jeep feels like a different option versus that usual choice.
They ordered a 2025 Chevrolet Express 2500 van for work. They wanted windows on the loading doors, because many cargo vans are built without them to reduce visibility and theft.
They’re talking about choosing a bigger engine size (the 6.6-liter) instead of a smaller one. A larger engine can help the van feel stronger when it’s carrying stuff.
They’re talking about the van’s automatic transmission having eight gears. More gears can make the van shift more smoothly and help it run efficiently.
This is about the business of turning regular cars into hearses. The host is saying it’s gotten harder and more expensive because the kinds of cars that used to be easy to convert aren’t as common anymore.
The Lincoln Town Car is a big, comfortable Lincoln sedan. People used to take cars like this and modify them into hearses because they had the size and smooth ride needed for the job.
The Cadillac DTS is a Cadillac luxury sedan. The point here is that older hearses were often built from big sedans like this before the industry shifted to smaller modern bases.
The Cadillac XTS is a Cadillac large sedan. The host is saying hearse builders started using newer sedans like the XTS as the base because the older, bigger cars became less available.
The Chevrolet Suburban is a very large SUV with lots of space for passengers and cargo. Because it’s so big, some companies use its platform to build special long vehicles. The speaker is describing it as a practical way to get extra length and room.
The Toyota Sequoia is a large SUV. The host is wondering if someone has built a hearse on one, but points out that the SUV’s height and the need for a wheelchair ramp make it a big consideration.
The Chrysler Pacifica is a minivan. The host says it’s a solid choice for funeral-related conversions because it has the space to fit what needs to be carried.
Sliding doors are the side doors that move along the car instead of swinging open. They’re handy in parking lots because they’re less likely to hit other cars and they’re easier to use for families.
The Ford Expedition is a large family SUV. The speaker mentions their parents’ 1998 Expedition Eddie Bauer, which suggests they remember it from childhood and are comparing it to other big SUVs they’ve looked at.
They mention the Copper State 1000 as a date reference. It’s an event in the car world, and they’re saying this episode comes out after it happened.
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Scottsdale, Arizona. Of course, I am your host, Jay Finning,
recording from my home studio here in Gilbert, Arizona. Coming up on today's
show, Devin Antrim stops by the studio to talk about his funeral business that
he works in. Sort of kinda. He's been on the show before. It's been a while, but
more importantly, he has brought some bourbon, some bourbon from Oregon. We're
gonna get into that. You're always welcome to come to the podcast, sit in the
studio right in front of me, as long as you bring something to drink.
Devin, welcome back. It's good to be back. You know, what's funny is I love how you
get dressed up to come here. You know, I do what I can. I showered this morning
to you on top of it. Oh, great. But the thing is, you rolled up in a hearse that
I did. This has been kind of a little bit of a fun card that is actually a
company vehicle. But actually Tyson Hugie, he just did a little ride up
piece on it too. No kidding. Because of course, there's like a Honda Acura
gig, fellow geek to another. He was pretty stoked about it when I showed up to a
little cars and coffee meetup he had in Phoenix. This was probably about two or
three months ago. Oh, was this after the auction? It was, yeah. Yeah. I was out of
town that day. Yeah, so that, yeah, I was over. I mean, yeah, he does that
annually, I believe. I was out there last year, but didn't have a car. I had my
limo at the time, which no longer have limo. Panther limo's gone. Limo's gone.
It was fun while it lasted, but we're gonna have to toast to that. We'll drink
to that. So tell us a little bit about this Honda you have now. Yeah, yeah. So
we, my work, we had had a minivan. We retired, you know, we use vans a lot. We
use hearse a lot, you know, normal hearse usually best on a big Cadillac. We are
looking for something a little more compact for kind of utility purposes.
This halls mostly, mostly earns. I mean, it's designed to hold a full casket if
you need to, but we had it retrofitted out of a company in Cleveland, Ohio called
American Coach Company. And nothing too crazy in terms of modifications. It's
got a custom fit floating floor in the back. So seats are gone. Well, so what
does floating floor mean? So loading floor. Oh, loading floor. Yeah, a little
different. They're floating floor. Okay. That kind of floats, but it's mounted
into the, you know, their seat brackets. Yeah, but it's got rollers built in. So
when you have a casket, you're putting a casket in there. It helps assist with
rolling that forward to the, to the end of the platform there. You put a little
call it a beer pin at the end holds a casket in place. So people could be
watching or listening to this for the first time and it's been a while since
you've been on the show. And so do you want to explain while you're rolling
around in a Honda Hurst? Absolutely. So I'm a, I've been in the funeral biz. I
think the first time I've been on, on your pod was with a casket company. I
was a casket salesman for about 10 years. Now I'm on the other side of that
working directly with a funeral home here in the Phoenix area. So I've been
doing that for about the last years when I switched jobs. And so that's, that's
why I get to roll around in some unique vehicles. This Honda obviously being one
of them. So pretty cool. Again, that, that floor. Biggest modification is that
outside of that. It does have a few little tricks on it. It's got some
strobe lights in the grill for procession. So it's got some chrome on the
outside, got some chrome A, B and C pillar trim. It's got a land out bar, a
little S bar on the window. So that's significant kind of detail that a lot of
older carriages and stuff had back in the day. That's what funeral vehicles
typically have on the side to signify that it's a Hurst. I was just looking
around for your little baits, stress squeeze, a little casket, the little
black squeezable casket that's over here somewhere. But you didn't bring a casket
today. Not today, but maybe something cast strength. So what did you bring? Tell
us about this because that's the only reason you're allowed in the studio is
because you bring liquor. Brought some bourbon. So I got the opportunity to do
a little tasting event at Total Wine. It was an invite only deal. Thanks to my
dad. So shout out to my dad for letting me in there. But this amongst some wine
was in there, but it's a distillery out of Oregon called Oregon Spirit. Okay. And
honestly, I can't off the top of my head. Remember what town or area I think I
believe it's it's going to be on the eastern side of the state that they're
based in. But had some good stuff. I mean, honestly, I didn't know what to
expect from a distillery from Oregon, you know,
there's there's plenty of good whiskies around the US in different areas. You
know, that's the thing is everyone thinks that if it's proper bourbon, it has
to come through Kentucky. And I think statistically, it's 80 something percent
of them. So that means there's over 10% of whiskey companies in the US outside
of the hub of Kentucky. And there's some good stuff. I mean, we have, I don't
know if you have ever had Fossil Creek. No, I've had Fossil Creek whiskey before.
And I think it was good. I mean, it burned at first. I thought it was terrible,
but somehow I finished the bottle. So it must have eventually got good. Yeah. Yeah,
there you go. This stuff. I mean, this one is one of their stronger bottles,
120 proof. I mean, this is going to have a little bite. But comparatively, I mean,
I've had some, you know, lived in Texas. We met up there a few years ago, Fort Worth.
So I've had some, you know, Firestone Robertson distillery, which is TX whiskey
bourbon. That stuff's pretty harsh. There's stuff here, this Oregon spirit.
It's pretty smooth. I got to try this iteration here, their cask strength. I tried their
rye as well as a, they had a single barrel. Yeah. Single barrel. So outstanding stuff.
I figured I'd shared the love and actually haven't even broken the seal off. I see that.
Yeah. I'm sitting there looking at it, kind of salivating. Like,
when you stop talking so you can bust into this thing,
you know, but real talk. So I also hooked you up as an in studio guest with,
that was something we gave away at my birthday, 50th anniversary, or the fifth,
my 50th anniversary, I guess. 50th anniversary life. But you see that, you said a Stogie.
The funny thing is, so that is a Twix wrapped in a pet. Okay. Yeah. So we wrapped all those up,
but I just learned I was at a good friend's house this weekend and they were talking about it. And
he just flew, I think he flew to New Orleans this week and he grabbed their party favorites
because he thought they were going to smoke some cigars. And this is a guy who,
he does cigars all the time. And he thought that those, those Twix that we wrapped up were real
cigars at first glance. It's, I bought it a hundred percent. Yeah. I wonder how many people
thought because I mean, I don't smoke cigars. Yeah. And, uh, but I wonder because there was
actually two people this last weekend who said that they go, you know what? I'm glad that you
thought that because I thought it too at first. I was like, Oh my God, but they are Twix and
they are custom wrapped. And so, uh, there you go. That's pretty legit. Yeah. I like,
I like the band on that. That's cool. Yeah. Let's, let's go ahead and crack into this thing.
Absolutely. Let's do it. So let's do a, let's do a Glen Karen Taster first. And then we brought
the rocks glasses with a giant sphere in them. So then once you get past the taste of it,
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ahead and uh, cheers. See if you guys heard that. To the big 5-0. I don't know if this uh, this Glyn
Karen was clean. I've kept it in here and I just kind of drink out of it all the time.
Oh, that's punchy. It's got, it's got a shit ton of flavor though, doesn't it? It does. Wow. It's
pretty complex. Yeah, what are we, what are we tasting there? Does it have the tasting notes?
Let's suck it out here on the bottle. I mean, it's a little smoky. It is. You can feel the
high proof as soon as it touches your mouth. You definitely can. Does this say cash strength on
here anywhere? This is cash strength. Yes, it is. Casket strength. The thing is gonna kill me.
This probably might put you in a casket if you drink enough. Yeah, what do we got here? Let's
it's kind of a little, so it isn't bend organ. There we go. Bend organ. That's where they're
based. Hand selected for exceptional quality. It's a four grain straight American bourbon whiskey.
Small batch distilled, but it tastes great. Definitely. I like it. I mean, it's good. It's
got, it's got a punch, but it, it finishes a little softer than it hits you at the beginning. You
can see that bottle. All right. Let me go to the glasses. This will be the first time I've worn
glasses on the podcast. If you're listening to this, you know, you can watch this on Spotify
as long as you're not driving. Let me see. I like this distilled organ, bro. This is cool.
Yeah. It doesn't, it doesn't even tell you. No background, but fucking assholes. This guy,
you know, could have, could have put a better plug on there for the product, but hey,
yeah, gotta try it to like it, I guess. Small batch, but yeah, this is really good. I'm going to go
ahead and do the rocks glass pour. I apologize for people right now that just want us to get on
with it, but, you know, it's crazy cause tonight is one drink Wednesday and an hour and a half from
now. I forgot about that at the time I reached out to you about getting together, but I didn't,
you know, now it's going to be two drink Wednesday after all. So well,
it'll be probably closer to seven or eight. There you go. There's your bottle.
So what have you been up to, man? You said we needed to catch up and you're right. And I don't
think it was just because of this, but maybe it was. I mean, a little bit of this, a little bit
of that, but no, just again, I'm trying to think when, when was the last time I was over here?
Oh, thank you. Yep. So I'm pretty sure the last time you were over here, I can tell you what was
going on. And I remember the cover of the episode and I remember there was some woman who was pissed
off in, in YouTube, the Tesla incidents. That was, yep. It was the Teslas on fire people. We
were making fun of people. They were, they were keying Teslas and talked about people lighting
the Teslas on fire. Oh yeah. And a woman got mad watching this on YouTube because all we did
was talk about bourbon, some cars in parenthood. That's right. And she thought it was a colossal,
boring wasted time. Yeah. But I'm glad she watched it because we'll take the viewing.
Absolutely. I think she fell for the thumbnail. Yeah. And the thumbnail wasn't
incorrect. Yeah. I had a Tesla burning, but the reason I remember this is because
when you came in that day, I'm 99% sure this was you. My daughter, I mean, my granddaughter, Nova,
was sitting at the, at the counter on her iPad and I tried to get her attention to say hi to you.
Yeah. And like most little kids, you know, being a father, they were locked into the device. So I
got close to her and I started growling a little bit and she kind of laughed. And that was it.
You know, that was the famous incident where my mother-in-law accused me of growling at her
and barking at her. That is right. Yeah. Now that's all jogging my memory.
Yes. So that was the last time you were in studio is I got in trouble for some crazy shit that I
didn't do. You know, it'd be like that sometimes. And that wasn't the first time it happened again.
A few months, like six months later, what grown adult growls and barks at another adult. I mean,
I could see if it's your significant other and you're just trying to be a little playful.
Cat call, name call. Yeah. It's not like you're like,
you know, have you seen that commercial that that guy's like, you know, my boss is from
University of Georgia and I probably shouldn't have barked at her. Every time, every time that
commercial comes on, I have PTSD from that night. Yeah. I do recall that commercial. I'm getting
yelled at, you know, but my wife is like, well, I go, you believe me, don't you? And she's like,
I don't know. I was like, what do you mean you don't know? Anyway, that's how I know. I'm like,
wait, I'm pretty sure. So that's why I'm pretty sure you met Yvette before. And I think you
know, I think now, now that we're recanting all that, I'm pretty sure you're, yeah, you're right.
But her memory is not so good either. She's like, I don't think I've met you. You know,
it's been a few months. Dude, there's been like a year, you know, that has to at least,
that had to at least been because that was 2024. Honestly, yeah, because I mean,
they could talk about like my limo. I mean, I sold that back in September. So yeah, it's,
I hadn't talked to you since. Well, because they were lighting dealerships on fire. That was,
yeah, that was during the election. Was it not? I believe so. Yeah. So that was 24.
That was, that was fall of 24. It's the last time you're here. It's been a minute.
Yeah. I've been, I know, yeah, I know I messaged you from time to time and, you know,
I always try to mean to catch up. Yeah, yeah. It's always good to come back here. I think,
well, this is probably time. I want to say maybe this third or fourth time. This is your third
or fourth time on the podcast for sure. Maybe third time in studio or maybe I don't know. Maybe
I know we did one at the, at the car show event. Oh, yeah. For a few of the kids,
I believe that one that you guys put on. So I know we did one. You work on Sunday?
Sunday? What are you doing on Sunday? I'm off on, well, actually I take it back. You know what I'm
doing Sunday? I'm headed to Temecula, California on Friday. Oh, what's going on? What's going on
Temecula? So I have a girlfriend these days. Yeah. Great gal. And she was super cool enough to buy
a nice stay at a BNB in Temecula, California. So we're going to do a little wine tasting,
probably some good restaurants. I mean, we've gotten a ton of lists of recommendations from
people. Good for you. Been to Temecula one time for a wedding back in 2018. Didn't really do much
venturing out besides the winery that the wedding was at. So, you know, seek an advice if you've
got any recommendations yourself. Man, I don't, I mean, I don't spend much time in Cali. And I wonder,
is this northwest of San Diego? It is. Yeah, I think it's kind of do west of like ocean side or
something. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I wonder if I've been there actually, not, not obviously, but I,
we were at a wedding. And I want to say, because it's wine country, but it's not Sonoma, which is
way North Cal, like I've never been way North Cal. Yeah. But it must have been Temecula,
somewhere around there, and it was beautiful. It was nice. Yeah. Yeah, gorgeous area. Like I said,
have some good friends get married out there. And so this, yeah, we felt a good time to maybe get
out of heat a little bit. It'll be nice and chilly over there, but I think it's going to be like mid 60s.
Yeah, it's going to be cool. And I think we're cool next weekend too. Yeah. Finally, I mean, we,
I mean, pretty warm. Yeah, it was cool, then it was warm, then it was hot, then it was cool.
You mentioned Tyson earlier, and I still got a, like every day I tell myself, I need to
call him and go over to his place. Yeah. Because I need to do a pod from there. And he's down.
I just need to give him a call. Yeah, just got hit him up. I saw him again, saw him at that car
show where I kind of debuted that Honda Odyssey out there to him and some guys got a lot, probably
to hit the show, to be honest, everybody was kind of gathering around like, what the heck is this?
You know, you don't see that every day. I mean, honestly, I don't think there's any other funeral
home in the state of Arizona that has a Honda Odyssey Earth. I mean, that's probably the one
probably not, probably not anywhere outside of Japan. So exactly, right?
Tyson kind of joked, you know, for those of you that want to get your last hit of VTEC before,
you know, you hit the bottom of your head. Oh, it does. Yeah. Still got the, what do you think?
It's got a J-Series, it's 35, 3.5 still. You should get a magnet for it. Back when I had my
Integra, I had a big, remember the big Intel inside thing? I had one that said VTEC inside,
and I had the circle, I had it on my hood. I should put that on the Odyssey Earth.
You should. That would be funny as hell, man. Yeah. Another sidebar story. I have a cousin
of mine from New Mexico. He's got a son who's understanding he's pretty new in the driving,
16 years old. He's been in this race simulation driving. So again, brand new driver, but he's in
the racing simulation, has been doing that out in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and he had reached out
to me kind of out of the blue. Honestly, I didn't even have his number. So I was like, who is this?
Because he's like, hey, Devin, I need you to go check out a car for me. You know, I'm the resident
family car guy. So I'm like, okay, what's who? Number one, who is this? Right. Right. It's my
cousin Kevin's son Dylan. But anyway, he's looking to get into Miata spec racing. Okay. So he was
looking at 91 Miata, you know, fully basic skittles, first gen skittles, first gen skittles. That's
it. This one was the blue one. Guy in North Phoenix had a pretty good shape. I mean, beat up race car.
Right. You know, but for the price point you're getting to, to jump into that segment, not too
shabby, the car ran good. Guy was seemed pretty honest and legit. Certainly a big time enthusiast
to that, I think as many of those Miata guys are. Right. So took a walk around the car up in Phoenix,
gave it the thumbs up. I rolled up in the Honda Odyssey Hurst too, just to, you know,
really instill that's, that's a bar in one of the songs, like something pulled up in a
hearse. I can't think of the song, but I just know that part. Yeah. I can't know what song
you're talking about, but I can't remember what it is either. It's either like, it's, I feel like
it's a two chain song or something. It could be two chains. Somebody is screaming right now at
the podcast. It's so, so two chains, ice cube. Who's the guy? Slide, slide, slippery slide. Who's
dead? Coolio. Coolio. Yep. RIP. RIP. But anyway, but anyway, saw this Miata, gave it the thumbs up,
said, Hey, I jokingly told the guy too. I think he was looking, you know, he had a price in mind.
He had it advertised on, I think it was racing junk.com. I think I don't know if you're familiar
with that. I'm not familiar with racing junk.com, but had it posted on there. I kind of jokingly
said, Oh, my cousin says you were down for half the price of what he had it advertised for.
He kind of thought it was serious for a half a second, but then I was like, no, I'm just kidding.
But I said, I know you guys talked about a price and he said he felt comfortable there. So I was
like, Hey, seems like a good deal to me. But rolled out of there, text my cousin, Hey, you know,
if you got to want to race car, you got a race car right here. So roll down the street. Tyson's
house is about 10 minutes down the road. So rolled by there with Odyssey and he shot a little
couple of video clips and just did a little write up on one of his publishing entities. And
again, he was super stoked on it. Super cool. I mean, it's something different. I don't know if
people in traffic really recognize that van for what it is. It's pretty subtle. But if you know,
you know, well, when you pulled up, I looked at it and I go, what? I mean, it doesn't look like
a regular Odyssey, but what, you know, you just, you don't know what it is. Yeah. You know what
else? You know what we talked about last year on as well? We talked about the, the Civic type R
versus the, uh, integrity type S. Yeah. I'm still feeling to get into one of those vehicles. I don't,
I still haven't decided which kind of love. I love them both, man. Like I just wish I had,
I'm one of those people that wish I had more money like most people. Yeah. But I just,
I wish I could drive an NFL five Civic for a while and I wish I could drive a type S and
tiger for a while. And it's hard to justify, right? Because I got the Z obviously that's my daily.
And I just wish I had room for just one more daily. Like I wish I had a daily for my daily.
My life was good when I had the infinity and the Z and the NSX, you know,
daily and daily for the daily. Uh, and then of course the MDX when it's time to switch it up.
Sure. Are you paying attention to the industry at all? You know, with all these cancellations
that EVs and right now they're trying to give away pro logs. Yeah. I saw, yeah.
Honda scrapping their whole EV line. I mean, all that, that new RDX that was supposed to be coming
out done before it even was a thing. So pretty interesting to see the pivot. I mean, honestly,
I was listening to another podcast, uh, talking about, you know, unfortunately, you know,
I still listen. I don't talk about enough car shit. I get it. Yeah. You talk too much about
parenthood and parenthood politics and bourbon, but no, they were talking about, you know,
kind of the, the turning of the tables. Cause you know, what was it about a year ago?
You know, Nissan was in great peril and they still, they're not in great shape.
Oh, that's right. They were trying to look, they almost got bought out.
But Honda was trying to, you know, say, Hey, we want to buy you,
but we would have controlling interest in you. They say, no, they turned that down.
Well, now it kind of, the, the script's kind of flipped because Honda's kind of hurting.
I understand that they're, they've taken a significant loss due to this.
Something like 20 billion or something. All that money sunk into EV development. And now it's,
you know, they're pulling back on that. So it's kind of interesting times to see that because
Nissan's kind of got some forward momentum with some of their upcoming stuff. Exterus coming back.
I guess the GTR might be coming back. I saw that too. Yeah. You know,
every time I see those posts, I don't know if they're real or not.
No, it's hard to tell. I don't know what AI. Yeah. And then you can say,
you can use just the prompt and it could just be rumors, but you still see it.
Like, we know that the pictures aren't real. They can't be, but just the news,
you gotta look for the news and try to, try to cross reference it everywhere.
But I feel like Honda, I wouldn't say they saw the writing on the wall
because they seem like one of the last big companies to bail
because I guess Delantis had lost even more money and GM had lost even more money.
And so I'm excited, man. I'm excited to see what they come out with.
Yeah. I mean, a lot of those automakers are pivoting to, you know, hybrids or emphasizing,
which Toyota pretty much took that path from the get go. Toyota has been on hybrids for a minute,
which I think was smart person. I kind of wish Honda did a little more on the hybrid front
in their lineup too. But I mean, honestly, talking accurate Honda,
them dropping the RDX, you know, they're discontinuing that for what, two years, I think?
And then, and then I think it's going to be coming back as a hybrid or, I don't know,
but that might have changed too. Dude, the RDX is sweet, man. Oh, they're cool.
They're cool looking. They're fast. The one thing I hate about them though,
the infotainment system in that touchpad, God awful, which they did away with that.
They did away with it because yeah, because that's, that's one of the selling points for our
new one outside, you know, that and the, the massaging seats. Oh, that's nice.
They're sharp looking too. I really like the body style on those. They look good. I like the
function of that whole, you know, use, do they all have the captain's chair that can come out,
that center seat turning? Yeah. Yeah. We had it in the back in the old car too,
the 23 and we just never took it out. And I forgot that he could even do that.
It's kind of slick, you know, best of both worlds when you need the extra seat you have.
But it's kind of this pain in the ass thing. You have to figure out what you want to do with.
Right. Because my, my, though he answered all that shit from my wife is just put in the garage
or put in storage. I'm like, look at the garage. I got like six child seats in the fucking garage
right now. Like everything can't just go in the garage. Right. At some point you run out of garage.
At some point you run out of garage. I actually convinced her to, to, to upgrade our storage.
We had a 10 by 10. Yeah. And now it's like a 10 by 20 and it already feels cramped.
Yeah. Because the answer to everything is put in the storage or put in the garage.
Yeah. Out of sight, out of mind. And then you just accrue a bunch of stuff.
Or you buy shit because you forget you have it. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly.
What are you rolling? What's your daily right now? Well, it's not the hearse, is it?
No, it's not the hearse. I mean, I get, I'm driving this home tonight. My truck,
I got, I still got my 2016 Ford F 150. I bought that thing brand new,
hard to believe, 10 years ago, 2016, 10 years ago. When did that happen?
Right. You know, so have that thing. I've just rolled 160,000 miles on that truck.
And honestly, it's been phenomenal. It's got the three, five EcoBoost motor in it.
And I know folks have had issue, camp phaser issues, that kind of different stuff,
timing chain guides, knock on wood. Yeah. You know, when a car has, excuse me,
when a car has issues, it's not every fucking car. Yeah.
It's a certain percentage of the car. So even, even Range Rover and Land Rover,
they're not all going to blow up only 70% of them. If you were, if you maintain a vehicle,
I mean, chances are you're going to have a better likelihood of it lasting you a good
amount of time. I mean, yeah, same can be said for Range Rovers and Land Rovers.
McLaren's, there you go. You know, some have better reps. I mean, even, even these days,
you know, Honda Acura, I know, you know, their reliability reputation is kind of
slid a little bit too in comparison. You know, you got brands like Honda and Kia that have kind of
I'm going to steal this quote from someone because they, I think, I think maybe Andre
Mullins, they're, they're the Hondas of the nineties right now. 100%. You know, and we looked at,
I don't know why my wife, we looked at the Kia Telluride and we looked at the Hyundai Santa Fe,
North Hyundai Santa Fe, the Hyundai Palisade and we drove a Palisade, we is in Nevada.
We didn't drive a Telluride for some reason, but she just, they're nice, but they're missing
something. You know, I was watching the review, I think it was Motor Trend or one of those things
and the lady was reviewing like SUVs and because we almost bought an Infinity QX60 the first time.
And then this time, Yvette just didn't want to, I don't know, she just didn't want to drive one,
but I was watching the review, the lady said the QX60 is like a jacket you buy from H&M.
I knew exactly what she was talking about when she said it, you know, she says,
it looks great. After a while. But it doesn't really work the way it's intended, you know,
and so, you know, that was just so funny to me, dude. But you know, Yvette didn't,
I thought she was going to really like the Palisade, it was nice, but it just wasn't there.
Yeah. And then the Lexus GX 550s, which is sick. Oh, they're sweet. Kind of expensive and
I guess they drive like a truck and you can't order them, you kind of get what you get.
They're hard to get. I mean, my dad's been, I'm on one, one of the GX 550s and we've talked
to about three dealerships here in town and you know, it's wait list and yeah, you get what
you get, you can't order those things. Have you talked to Chandler? We have, we talked to Chandler,
talked to what is a superstition Lexus. Superstition on your shit. Oh, they're,
yeah, they claim their allocation was high. Their skin and bones. I feel like, I don't know.
And then most recently Earnhardt Lexus is the latest one we're talking. So there's,
there seems to be more traction with them. We'll kind of see what happens there. He's got
his list of, you know, top picks of the colors and whatnot. He like, there's like incognito gray.
Yeah. Personally, that's one of my favorite colors. That's a cool color. I like the green they have
too. My dad's not really a green car guy. So it's either the grays or a couple grays and then
a white, you know, keep it simple. Yeah. They just, believe it or not, it's just, it's basically a
Land Cruiser, you know, deep, you know, rebadged with a little more creature comforts, but it's
a rough ride. Yeah. So, and knowing that, you know, once we did the comps, the MDX still came out
on top or damn near on top in every category minus power. Yeah. Power wise. Yeah. Type S.
And they bet they want to spend, you know, $1,000 a month on this. And I didn't want to spend it
either because my type S is in the garage. Speaking of, you were saying Honda and Acura quality
at times. I mean, I, I'm waiting on a call for warranty. My driver side door tweeter,
I shut the door and I think if I can popped out, it's popped out twice now. And I'm just like,
this is a silly problem to have. Finish for a halo car. Right. This is a funny, this is a,
it's a funny thing, right? And then all the rattling, my friend Ira, he knows how to take
apart the dash and fix all the rattles. I haven't done it yet, but I might because it just drives
me nuts. Yeah. And once you hear that and you're in there, you're like, man, well,
apparently the clips, right? The dashboard clips, they don't have any of that insulation tape on
them. And you know, they use the metal. So they just, you know, sometimes it's worse than others,
but it's like, my God, especially with a sports car, you know, you get a little stiffer suspension,
you're going to feel more bumps than, you know, it's funny and you're right. You can hear the,
the suspension, like when you go over bumps and stuff, you can hear it go.
It's like, what the hell? Like I can hear that shit from inside the car. Yeah. It's pretty wild.
Yeah. It's crazy. You know, so, so thinking about the Palisade in the, in the Telluride too,
with that big thing with the seats, not having the sensor to stop from holding in on, I mean,
a child lost her life in that, that's pretty wild to see that. I don't know if you'd seen much.
No, I hadn't seen that. Wow. There was a stop sale, I think on, I think it was on a certain
trims because it's like, again, the power seats, powerful down seats in the second row and third
row. That was her selling point. I want to say it's the Palisade. It's got the school you hit
the thing and it goes, it just does on its own. It takes a while, but it just does it on its own.
But it just doesn't stop it. Even if, you know, people have been seen on like Instagram, people
will test it out, put a basketball in the seat, press the button. It doesn't stop for anything.
Wow.
And I was listening, I was listening to, uh, I'm trying to think, I think this might have been
Doug DeMiro's podcast that we're talking about some of this too. And it's like, you know,
sometime, you know, technology is great, functionality and tension to that's cool,
but there's nothing wrong with a lever you pull. No, it's just on rails. There's nothing wrong
with that. Would it? Well, okay. You mentioned these podcasts. Where's some car podcast you
listen to? Oh, I mean, I'm kind of, again, Doug DeMiro, I mean, so what, what's his podcast
called? Is it cars? I mean, I think it's people can find it. It's podcasts, you know, people can
find that pretty easy. He's obviously a big name in the YouTube and podcast world. Uh, listen,
that you see this in the glass of bourbon, this is a glass bourbon from Morgan quirks and features,
by the way. Uh, no, I mean, I'll listen to him. I used to be, be big on a donut media,
you know, but there, there's been, I don't know if you followed that. I didn't realize
they had a podcast. I know I used, I watched a couple of their videos on YouTube. I know
they've gone through like a whole acquisition and then all the talents left. Yeah, that's
changed. I mean, all my, all my favorite guys from that have since now splintered off and doing
their own thing, which I do keep up with like, I get jealous of shit like that because, um,
is it James? Who's the, who's the main guy? James Pumphrey. Yeah. Like he was the first to
split, wasn't he? Yeah. Uh, yeah. I believe so. And then the, uh, Jeremy and what's the other
guys? Yeah, James, he's split and he's like, Hey guys, I'm doing my own thing. And I'm looking
at it. I was like, Jesus, Jesus, dude already has like 300,000 subscribers because he was,
people liked them. They liked the media, but they liked him. Well, his personality is great.
You know, he's very animated and, uh, I mean, I love his up to, up to speed segments. Those
were some of my favorite videos, you know, a few years ago. And so when he passed, I was like,
speed. Yeah. With threes. Well, it's good for him, man. Cause I mean, it's like,
when you could take that and just, you become the brand. Yeah, exactly. The face, yeah,
the face of the brand. And I would say he definitely kind of became that level.
And I feel the other guys that trickled in and kind of paved their path and made,
made a name for them too. I mean, you know, the same thing they've been able to split off too.
I think the other guys have a podcast or show called big time on YouTube. So that's a pretty
good one. I'll, I'll catch those episodes from time to time. James property. I mean, talking
about, you know, your podcasts, you know, you don't talk about purely just cars or just one
less problem. I mean, it's a problem, but it's, but it's not a bad thing either. I mean, James,
James kind of proves that he, he does that. I just watched the video of his last night,
talked about clothing and fashion for guys. He just talked about, you know, doing less with
more and your clothes. That's what happens when you're so big. You can just call it like you
want it, right? You know, that's like my friend Brandon here, VQ V tech V eight, you know, with
the red car, his NSX, he got so big on Instagram. I always joked. I said, this dude could post a
picture of the corner of his bumper and get 3000 likes, you know, that's how some of those guys
get good for them. And it's awesome for them. Exactly. If you, I guess if you can pull it,
that's cool. Not everybody can. Apparently it's just different strokes for different folks and
it's just, it's just like the kind of, you know, the guy at the party that can tell a,
a raunchy joke. Maybe you can't tell that joke because like, man,
you know, that's, that's just how it is sometimes. Yeah. I don't know if I want to be that guy or
not. It's a slippery slope. What have you been able to drive lately? Have you done any traveling?
I, the last rent, I don't get to drive anything. The last thing I had was the f***ing the Suzuki
guy. What was it called? Jimny, the Suzuki Jimny in Costa Rica. And that was a couple months ago
now. But what about you? Yeah, I don't, so I don't travel anymore, like, you know, my past job. So
it's kind of more rare that I get to rent, drive anything different, rent anything different.
But I did have a wedding in Salt Lake City, Utah in September for my best friend from high school.
And I rented a Jeep Grand Wagoneer L, so the big boy, long guy. And so drove that,
it had that, the Hurricane V6 or the inline six. It's got a Huracan V6 in it.
And that's got like, I want to say that over 450 horsepower, I don't know, something crazy.
It's crazy. They scoot. And it was pretty sweet. I mean, I know those cars have a reputation for
a lot of electric bugaboos and stuff like that. But they look cool. I mean, to me, it's a cool
alternative to your, your Yukon's and your Tahos and all that stuff. And, you know, so that was
the last car I rented. I was going to possibly rent a vehicle this weekend to go to Temecula,
but I opted. I actually got my truck in for service, getting some stuff taken care of.
I'm gonna drive that out there because it's been a while since I've gotten that truck out of town.
So it'll be nice. But driven that, driven this Odyssey, I mean, my work car, so we got a,
small fleet at the funeral home. You know, I got a couple of brand new Cadillac
Hurses that are built on an XT6. So that small SUV, three rows. They chopped that thing up,
stretch it. I can't remember how long of a stretch it is, but it's got a full,
believe it's like fiberglass body built for a casket on the back end. So basically a truck,
got two of those. We've got a, I ordered this actually, we got a 2025 Chevy Express 2500 cargo
van. And what I found is, you know, we, we wanted some windows just on the loading doors and most
of those vans on the lot are built for trade guys, you know, tools and stuff. So they don't have
windows because they don't want windows. They don't want people seeing their tools to steal their
stuff. You know, so we had to order one with windows. And so while I was at it, I was like,
well, you know, instead of that 4.2 V6, maybe get the 6.6 liter. Why not? Why not? Put the remote
start on there. It's got blind spot alert, you know, so for a cargo van, it's kind of tricked out.
I mean, in that van, what's cool about those is that van, the platform itself hasn't changed since
like 1996. So that's like a 30 year old platform. So it's like a piece, it kind of is nostalgic
driving it. I mean, it's got an eight speed automatic transmission where that's a vast
technological improvement, but it's pretty analog. It's still got a physical key.
Still got the radio from like all the early 2000s, General Motors products in it. No, you know,
there's no, well, there's a backup camera. They had to legally have that now. So it's in the mirror,
but it's pretty analog, which is pretty cool. So honestly, that's, I drive that from time to time.
It's pretty fun. Physical keys are as a pet peeve of mine. Yeah. I fucking hate fucking. It's weird.
I'm like, what the hell is this? I got to put it in the thing and turn it? Like what? When you're,
when you're not used to it. I mean, my limo, you know, being a 2000 Lincoln still had the physical
keys. So I kind of had, you know, my trucks push to start all that. So I still, there's something
I enjoy about turning the key. I don't mind it, but it is nice just to roll up, pull a handle,
door unlocks, push the button and you're gone. Let me ask you this, or I'll get you out of here on
this with Hearst. You know, we see the traditional Cadillac or Lincoln, whatever it is. What's the
modern trend? Are they basically vans and small SUVs that are being converted? You know, the trend,
the trend right now is still the, the funeral car fabrication industry. That's kind of, it's
been in a kind of a weird limbo lately because all those cars were built on full size American sedans,
you know, the Lincoln town cars, the Cadillac, the Villa or DTS. So now they shifted like the
last iteration before, like this generation of hers is for us was built on the XTS, which is there
at the time, the large sedan. And those cars are much smaller than the old pool, you know, body
frame sedans were shipped into SUVs, but you're not even getting coach companies that'll build,
you know, on a suburban chassis. So just a long SUV to not have to do as much fabrication on a
vehicle. I mean, because these are pretty intricately, you know, modified to do that. And
they're not cheap. I mean, they're, they're six figures, you know, it'll run you, it's crazy,
probably about 150,000 or more dollars to modify. Yeah. So is there a Sequoia hearse out there?
Not that I know of, honestly. Kind of bad ass. It'll be pretty cool. I know the Sequoia,
it's a little high. So that's, that's your, that's your big consideration.
It needs to have the rent, like the, like the wheelchair ramp on the back of it.
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Most of your hearse stuff, like if it's not a, if it's not like a suburban or
a true modified hearse, you know, many vans are pretty common. Usually not a Honda Odyssey,
usually like a Chrysler Pacifica. It's usually the most modified minivan for duty of a
Pacifica. They're solid, honestly. Don't sleep on the Pacifica.
I know a Chrysler needs to hook me up. You know, anytime I travel, they need to hook me up with
the Pacifica, man. That's nice. Got the room, stolen, go seats, can't beat that.
Try to get a vet to get a minivan because she's always like, well, I gotta carry all the kids,
and I'm going to have like 50 people in the cargo and just get a minivan. No, fuck that, never.
They're saying millennials are kind of bringing the minivan back, you know, they're super practical.
I'm bringing mini back. Justin, where you at?
Justin, where you at? They make sense. Minivans make sense. And I mean, they, they,
tons of room, tons of room, easier to park than all the creature comforts because they want to sell
that, you know, both doors open usually. Yeah. Sliding doors. You don't have to worry about
door dings because you kid opening your door, you just push the button. The Pacifica, at least
for a while, they just come with vacuums. I think that's what you're about to say, you know.
Yeah, you got the vacuum. The Honda's got the vacuum. The Honda has it. Yeah. This one doesn't,
but they, you can get a vacuum on the touring Odyssey, I believe. So yeah, I mean, I think
minivans are underappreciated by the vast majority of society. They just need to look better.
Yeah, they just need to be a little bit cooler. Hey, listen to Chevy Astros. Yeah, they, yeah.
Or Ford AroStars. Oh, the AroStar. Yeah. Yeah, now we're talking. Now we're talking. Yeah,
I got you all perked up. Has to be an Eddie Bauer though, you know. Remember when Eddie Bauer,
you saw Eddie Bauer and you thought it was like, wow, that person must be rich. Yeah. They got an
Eddie Bauer. My parents bought a 1998 Expedition Eddie Bauer. And we, as a kid, I was like, man,
we've made it. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. Now Eddie Bauer's, I don't, I think they're gone. They're
bankrupt, I believe. Are they? Yeah. I haven't been to a shopping mall so long and I haven't seen
Eddie Bauer or anything, but I just geeked out with all the articles I read. But yeah,
they're, I think they're done, which that was probably one of the biggest, like, you know,
apparel automotive partnerships out there. It was. Well, cheers to Panther limousine. Cheers to
Panther limousine. RIP Panther. We might resurrect that one day. We'll see. RIP to Eddie Bauer.
RIP to Eddie Bauer. In case that's the, you know, what's going on. But no, I was, appreciate you
having me on and appreciate Sippons with good bourbon with you as well. Anytime you want to
bring some bourbon by, you're welcome. Absolutely. It'd be a bourbon check at the front door, Devin.
Well, I'll bring a good bottle next time too, but hope you enjoyed this and
you're the man. Catch you on the next one.
One of the Devin for coming by the studio and sharing some of that delicious bourbon
with me. I went outside and checked out his Honda Odyssey Hurst. I didn't take any videos. I
probably should have. You probably would have liked to have seen that. So for that, I apologize.
Pretty cool though. You should maybe follow him on social media. If I can remember, I'll put his
socials in the episode description. You know, I, so we recorded this before the Copper State.
This is coming out after the Copper State 1000, which took place on April 12th.
And I tried something different. You're going to hear it on the next episode. I'm not very
excited about it. It just, I brought my, my labs, my wireless mics, and it was so windy
outside and it's just like, God, but you know what? I try really hard every episode to get better.
And I push and challenge myself to constantly tweak this podcast because if this thing fails,
it's because of me, not because of anybody else. And it sure as hell isn't because of you,
because if you are part of the problem, you wouldn't be here now. So for that, I thank you.
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About this episode
Devin Antram returns to Hard Parking with a hearse-meets-Honda story, explaining how his funeral business uses a modified Honda “Odyssey Hurst” built by American Coach for casket loading—complete with a floating/roller floor and procession strobe details. The conversation shifts to bourbon, featuring Oregon Spirit (including a cask-strength pour) and a lively tasting. Between laughs, they debate automaker pivots away from EVs, reliability impressions, and minivan practicality, plus Devin’s travel plans and a Miata-spec tip story.
Devan Antram is back for Hard Parking Episode 321! After his first visit years ago, he returns to the studio with Jhae Pfenning for another relaxed conversation covering life in the funeral industry at Queen of Heaven Catholic Cemetery & Funeral Home in Mesa, AZ, along with some memorable stories and real talk about helping families.
They also crack open a special bourbon Devan brought from Oregon and keep the laid-back Hard Parking vibe going with plenty of laughs. Perfect episode if you enjoy genuine conversations and interesting guests who come bearing good drinks.
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