Dirty Mo Live from Fan Day

Before we begin, we want to take a moment to remember Kyle Busch, a competitor, a champion,

a friend, and someone who gave everything to this sport.

Our prayers are with his family, his teammates, and everyone across the racing community who

is feeling this loss.

The following program, Dirty Mo Live, was recorded on Thursday morning, May 21st,

at Junior Motorsports Fan Day.

Everybody, thank you for being here at Dirty Mo Live, presented by Arby's.

We're on the Arby's stage.

Man, they got the meat in three bucks.

Arby's is the easiest sponsor of my life, because I go to Arby's all the time, and I try to look

good, so I try to keep my fat intake down, and I get that turkey, but I take the bacon off,

because I don't need the bacon.

But I do cheat, and I get potato cakes, because I love them potato cakes, and then I get

half and half tea.

My daughter taught me that, cut down on my sugar.

So if you want healthy food, go to Arby's.

They got a great menu.

He's not paid to do this, but he just does it so dang well.

In fact, I want to tell you something.

When we talked about Kenny Wallace being here for Fan Day, man, I got excited,

because I tell you what, do you guys agree with me?

Any day with Kenny Wallace is a better day without it, right?

Am I right?

When I get on there, and I see him, he'll do his.

I'm going to do it with Arby's cup, and he's like, he puts the thing right up to his mouth,

his coffee cup, and he's got that snoco thing right there.

I'm telling you, he's a sponsor's dream, and he's just doing his natural thing,

because like you told me today, you're going to drink three cups of coffee every morning.

You might as well just go ahead and make a video from it, right?

Yeah, I love it, because Mike says you're so consistent.

I said, you know, Mike, I don't care where I'm at.

If I'm on a cruise ship, me and my buddy Eddie Balkovic, we're going to drink coffee every single

morning of my life.

Might as well pull my cell phone out.

That's right.

Hey, listen, they tell us we're live on Serious XM right now,

so I want to give a shout out to everybody listening on Serious XM NASCAR Channel 90.

We love you guys.

Thank you.

Be safe if you're driving.

We're going to do a lot of things up here.

You're just going to have to imagine some of the visuals that Kenny Wallace is doing,

like the Ric Flair thing.

You know what we're talking about, but we got a beautiful audience here today

at Junior Motorsports Fan Day.

You agree?

I do, and we are blessed with great weather.

As they would say in the Northeast, it's a steamer.

It's hot out, but I, you know, it's been a long winter.

And, you know, winter is six months long.

Did you all realize that?

You know, when you stop and think about, oh, it's hot, it's hot.

It's kind of six and six.

So I'm glad for winter to be gone.

Did you just say it was six months long?

That does not seem accurate.

Okay.

What is winter?

When in September, so September, October, November, December, January, February.

Well, how long do you think winter is?

It feels like you're dipping a little into the fall on the front end.

Yeah, well, I only went one through 12.

I'm not really super smart.

It's Kenny Math.

Hey, Kenny Math is good math.

I like that.

Hey, we got a bunch of people here today.

I want this crowd to hear me on this.

If you got something you want to ask the hermitator right here,

by all means, we got open mics.

I want to encourage you guys to do that.

I've got questions for it too.

We got the owl guy sitting on the front row.

Kenny, I've got nervous all of a sudden.

You have no idea how much I love those two.

You know, we're maybe a hundred miles separated.

You know, I'm down there in St. Luister and the land of Lincoln,

Spring, Illinois, but I love them very much.

Without those two, Rusty Wallace would have never made it.

And then of course, because Rusty made it, then I made it.

So thank you to Mike and Dorothy Algar.

Yeah, y'all are legends.

And your son is pretty good too.

That guy can win.

He can wheel a race car, Kenny Kenny.

You know, Justin is like fine wine.

I find that the older Justin gets, he gets better.

You know, Mike and Dorothy own Hoosier Tower Midwest.

Now he's got a big parts company and Rusty and Paul Andrews.

We had a company called Poor Boy Chassis.

We would build leaf spring dirt cars.

And we'd give them to Mike and Mike would sell them

throughout the United States.

And when we were broke on our ass, that man right there

put a nickel in our pocket.

So it goes pretty deep.

You know, that's the thing about sports.

We can pass each other in the NASCAR like Mark Martin.

I mean, Mark Martin drives up my driveway, right?

That's because, you know, we're such good friends,

but you don't know it because NASCAR is so competitive

that we just pass each other in the garage area.

Yeah.

So yeah, they're family.

All guys are family.

And same thing with Mark.

Mark the kid, Martin, out of Batesville, Arkansas.

Were you ever really broke on your ass?

Oh, God, yes.

Okay.

All right.

One time pulled up to a 7-Eleven.

Hey, 7-Elevens are making a comeback, by the way.

I see that.

I pulled up to a 7-Eleven in my 1976 GMC pickup truck.

Had a little, you know, like a little deal here.

And I'd always reach in there and get change.

I reached in there one day and there was no change.

I remember I had no money in the checking account.

And all I wanted was a bag of ice.

So, because I was trying to make it in ASA.

And that's a pivotal point in my life.

I went, I mean, I'm broke like in real.

Kim's working at a cafeteria.

I'm repairing vacuum cleaners.

And I think what we did is we called Kim's Grandma.

And she loaned us like $1,500.

Years later, when I made it, I went to payback Edna.

Edna Pool.

I went to pay her back the money.

She looked at me.

She says, you will not pay that $1,500 back

because you offered to pay it back.

And nobody has ever paid me back.

So, because I was good to my word,

that lady helped save Kim and I's life.

That's awesome.

But always pay your debt off.

No matter how long it is and they'll love you.

Listen, there's a couple of questions I do want to ask you.

And I do also want to encourage, you know,

some questions if there are any from the fans here.

Because again, they're the best looking fans I've ever seen.

So, listen, you are Mr. O'Reilly series.

And you know why you are?

I don't know.

Tell me.

How many starts did you have in the O'Reilly series?

I'll tell you how many starts it was.

I think it had five different title sponsors during your course.

How many starts?

547.

And Gator and myself, we talked about this.

And then, you know, we had Justin on Kenny Conversation.

Yeah, it's been a hell of a career.

Now, listen, I tell everybody, I wasn't great.

I was good.

And I don't compare myself to anybody that is great in NASCAR.

But I'm very humbled.

I was lucky to make it.

You know, nine Xfinity wins.

That wasn't...

But listen, it was all good.

And I stayed in the game.

And then, of course, 347 cup starts.

11, so total of 905.

And you're still racing.

I'm still racing.

How many races do you think you've done in your life?

Thousands.

For sure, thousands.

You almost got a thousand just in NASCAR.

Well, 905 NASCAR races.

And then we ran ASA for three years, so hundreds there.

And I'm well over a thousand in dirt racing.

We don't...

We don't try to do this.

It's life.

Yeah.

It's like, you know, it's like, I know your story.

I guarantee you, when you was working for Jimmy Spencer,

you didn't think you'd be running one of the greatest shows of all time,

Dirty Mo Media.

Here you are.

Same with me.

Not thought of being a junkyard or in Pennsylvania,

or somewhere in trouble with Jimmy.

You mess with the bull.

You get the horns.

That's right.

Jimmy Spencer never forgets.

Mr. Acymo.

Yeah.

God love him.

I, um, growing up in St. Louis, you know, I would...

I would see Richard Petty, Kaleigh Arborle, and David Pearson.

And that was like, that was too far away.

I would never know those people.

They're too famous.

Yeah.

Like, if I saw them, I'd be speechless.

And, uh, so to be Kyle Petty's friend, and to see Richard, and to know Dale Jr.,

Dale Jr.'s relationship and myself is crazy.

We're maybe three miles from here.

Junior's just a kid.

And we're both racing slot cars up here at, at, uh, what was it?

The race car driver, um, forgot his name, but we're racing slot cars.

So I've known Junior way before.

He was a race car driver.

So when he became famous, I walked in Dale Jr.'s motor home, and I just looked at him.

It was one of those moments.

I said, why, you're really famous.

Kind of a fun thing.

And Junior had the best response.

I know he's over there signing autographs.

He looked at me and his take was brilliant.

He goes, I can't help it.

You know, that's, that's also a flex.

I think I can't help it.

I'm just famous.

Well, listen, we both have talked about this before.

I was born Rusty's brother.

He was born Senior's son, and we can't help it.

Yeah.

You know, I mean, without our brothers or without our dads, it's like the Andretti's.

You know, these people wouldn't be where they're at.

So when people say to me, you wouldn't be where you are without your brother.

You know what I say?

I say, and you wouldn't be born without your mom or dad.

That's true.

We go as deep as you want to go.

Well, I just started a podcast called Sons and Daughters on that same premise.

So I, I agree with that 100%.

You can't apologize for being born.

That's right.

You're going to stay humble.

I love my brother.

I thank him all the time.

But here's what I want to get back to.

How important you had the most starts or have the most starts in O'Reilly series history.

Is that, is that right?

Yes.

I'm there.

There's somebody that's on your tail.

Yeah.

I'm Jeremy Clements.

Jeremy Clements is a wonderful individual with a great family.

I know the Clements for building Gator knows this.

The Clements build the world's greatest dirt racing motors.

It's like, hold on.

Clements motors.

That's Jeremy.

So when you get shocked and you're like, the kid Jeremy is dad.

I mean, and Jeremy plays it down because I had him on Kenny conversation on dirty

MoMedia podcast.

But it is amazing that he is going to break my record.

They're wanting to fly me out to Colorado or no, San Diego.

What's that called?

Coronado.

Yeah.

They want me to go out there and I'll do want to go out there.

But we've got Rusty's place rented in Cabo.

And I said, listen, you tell my wife.

So we'll see what happens.

But I definitely want to congratulate Jeremy.

I definitely want to hand him the keys over.

They want to, they want you to go to San Diego because that's where he's going to

end up becoming the most starts in O'Reilly history.

That's where he's going to tie your record that week.

He's going to break it.

He's going to break it that week and they want you there just to kind of be an honorary.

I'm at 547.

He's going to be at 548 out there and it's a big deal.

It's a big deal.

But here's my, here's something I want to ask you.

Yeah.

You're still racing.

Yeah.

And I know a building behind me that has some, some cars.

You know where I'm going with this?

You have no idea how deep I can go.

I call, you could start adding to your total again.

Hey, it's a race with the Clements.

Let me tell you something.

I got people cheering for this right now.

Getting back in the O'Reilly series.

Mr. O'Reilly series belongs back in the O'Reilly series.

Okay.

Now I'm jacked up on sundown.

Let me tell you the story.

We all have dreams like my dreams are real.

I don't know about you all.

And I, I dream that I'm at Richmond and I, and I, I'm trying to run,

run one more O'Reilly race.

So I call Dale Jr.

And I said, Jr.

I said, help, I got to run one more race.

And he talked to me out of it.

And he says, no, you're going to run, run my car store.

So we do it.

We put it together.

We get rained out up at tri county and I go run south Boston.

And so if I could ever run, I mean, I would get ready.

Here's what you got to do.

Go to San Diego.

Make the Clements think you're going out there to hand the keys,

but start the race.

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to run one more O'Reilly race.

And then.

But no, that's a look.

Start a starting park.

You just get to start the, that's all you have to do.

You know what?

That is such a, call it scrambled eggs.

It's my head's full of scrambled eggs right now.

You know, we all want to run one more time.

You know, and I hate to keep talking about junior, but we do, we do communicate.

When we communicate, it's about heartfelt things because he's a sweetheart.

But you know, you watch junior go to Nashville and run one more late model stock race.

You know, you watch a Clint Boyer run one more truck race.

You watch Harvard run one more truck race.

And it's like, damn, they're running 15th.

You know, I want to race.

But I know, I know that I could go and I could probably be competitive.

But man, this right shoulder of mine.

I got, I got two torn, you know, tendons, 80%.

My last O'Reilly race at Iowa, we get about lap 250 or 300.

I'm rotating down into turn one and my shoulder started hurting really bad.

It didn't show up at that night at South Boston two years ago.

I think because I had better power steering.

Well, that would help.

But yeah, I mean, I dream of always running a couple more NASCAR races because I love racing so much.

My problem is I love racing so much I get emotional.

I almost cry.

I get goosebumps.

Hell, Rusty shed tears yesterday.

His boy went to YouTube and brought up Rusty's win at Wilkesboro,

where he popped Bodine in the ass because Bodine popped him in the ass.

I looked over and Rusty's eyes were watering because he was so young

and Rusty's like, damn, and that's what happens to the athletes.

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You know what, I want to take a moment here and give you a lot of credit,

and also another gentleman who I wish he was here and that's Mr. Ken Schrader.

So listen, one of the blessings in my life is that we get to publish a show called

Herman Schrader every single week, where this is just, I never take it for granted,

because you and Schrader together, you're still racing, you're still getting after.

In fact, you were just in a gnarly wreck a week or two ago, right?

So Ken's up in Canada right now, is that right?

Kenny Schrader's got a book out.

It's called God of Race, and it's so accurate.

I know Kenny Schrader better than anybody except Ann,

and Kenny will get depressed.

Like if he's somewhere he doesn't want to be,

like we got to the very end of the Kyle Petticherry ride.

We're doing good deeds.

We're raising $2 million for the Victor Junction Game Camp,

and I could tell Schrader was getting depressed, and I knew what that meant.

He has got a weird situation going on in his brain that if he's not at a racetrack,

he gets sad, gets weird, and he knows this.

I tease him about it all the time, and Ann's like, oh yeah, he can smell the racetrack.

It's, he run home so he could get in the hauler and drive 20 hours up to Osh Weekend,

and you know, to all these racetracks, but he's God of Race.

Did you ever think that you and him would be doing a podcast together?

Never in a million years.

You started that.

But when you do a podcast with him, and you just wind him up and let him go,

like what's going on in your head?

He, Kenny does not want to burn any bridges.

Me, I'll, you know, and I told you this earlier,

Brother Rusty says it best, you know, I'm controversial,

but Rusty says, Herman, you take the knife and you, you know, you poke the skin,

but you never draw blood.

Kenny Schrader has some of the greatest stories, and when I can pull those out of him,

I feel like it's a victory.

So leave it up to me to make the controversial statements.

Leave it up to Schrader to tell some of the greatest stories in NASCAR history.

Yeah.

But to pull a controversial subject out of Schrader,

he's such a quality human being that he doesn't want to hurt NASCAR's feelings.

He doesn't want to hurt anybody's feelings.

I'm like, fine, I'll hurt their feelings because they hurt my feelings my whole life.

You know, people have talked crap about me my whole life, so it's game on.

Listen, I just want to say, and I think our friends right here in the audience would

join me in saying thank you for what you and Schrader do every week for us.

And also the fact that you are still getting after it.

Well, listen, you guys are our heroes.

I grew up, listen, I grew up in 90s NASCAR, right?

I was at the Talladega race in the stands when you and you pushed Big E.

I was in the grandstands as a fan, and I'm sitting here on a stage with you,

and it's just such an honor.

But you and Schrader, every single week, we get to listen and tap into your worlds

because you allow us.

So thank you.

Thank you.

That's very nice of you.

So, you know, he likes to race everywhere, so it's getting difficult right now.

And I think we got to buy him a Starlink because...

Oh, we got to get him some internet.

That man.

This past show was brutal.

You know, we're losing him because he's on the road.

And he's not going to quit racing to do Herman Schrader.

Right.

So we need to call Elon Musk and get a free Starlink.

So Schrader has full-time Wi-Fi because I take mine.

Hell, I go to Rusty's.

I go to my mom's.

I got my little bag.

You know, and we're going to do Herman Schrader.

Come hell or high water.

Yeah.

No matter where we're at.

You guys are awesome.

Listen, in a second, I got some people that I want to introduce to you guys and also to

Herm here.

But before we get into that, is there anybody here that would like to ask,

yeah, we got somebody here.

Alex Thames, is there a microphone?

Yeah, they're getting a microphone out.

And speak, tell us your name and where you're from.

And let's get to these for a few minutes.

And if we don't get to you right now, we'll get to you at the end of the show.

Here we go.

Tom Lund, Stony Point, North Carolina, via North Dakota.

Right on.

I have my favorite dirt tracks, grew up racing dirt tracks in North Dakota.

What's yours?

That's a great question.

It would probably be Volusia.

And I raced all over North and South Dakota.

The reason Volusia is because its heart felt, I was not a dirt racer.

I didn't grow up racing dirt, and I had to learn it at 40.

I started dirt racing at 44 years old, and the only place I could learn to get my reps

in was speed weeks at Volusia.

So eight years ago, we were run eight nights in a row.

And I won my very first O'Reilly race when it was asphalt at Volusia.

So I won my very first NASCAR O'Reilly race there when it was asphalt with Bobby Labani

and all into the Bertons.

And so many years later, I'm like, they put dirt on it.

And I went back there before the Gator.

They had an eagle and I won.

So it's Volusia.

It's very heartfelt for me.

Yeah.

It's a good one.

There was some other here, Alex.

Oh, the Gator.

Gator.

Gator down the brush.

He's like, does he owe you money?

I owe him a lot of money.

Actually, no, he doesn't.

But I'd like to hear your favorite David Ift to Cannes story.

Oh, my.

This is great.

All right.

Tell us who this is.

OK.

So David Ift is a legendary gold wrench crew chief.

Why his name does not come up anymore?

So if you look through the archives of NASCAR, David Ift is another Ray Evernham.

David Ift is another Tim Brewer, one of the great crew chief, took K. R. Burrell to a lot of wins,

MC Anderson.

Guys, I'm going on 63.

I don't know NASCAR like junior, but David Ift, when I moved out of St. Louis and we put

together Rusty, if it weren't for Rusty, I wouldn't be where I'm at.

I love my brothers, Rusty and Mike.

So David Ift down in Lake Wiley puts together this Bush Grand National team for me.

And he says, I got a crew member.

We got to hire his names.

Toucan.

I'm saying, what's his real name?

It's Jim Murray.

So Toucan loves his corps light.

And the reason he got the nickname Toucan was because they're out there in Ontario,

California, and Toucan's driving the MC Anderson, Kaley R. Burrell, number 27.

And he's hauling the race car out there and back.

And all the team members are like Toucan, bring some corps light back because they didn't have

corps light here.

It was a Colorado thing.

He got cases.

And when he came back, he only had two cans of corps light left.

It broke apart in the trailer.

He was trying to save it.

And the crews were just devastated because you could only get corps light out there.

And so his nickname forever was Toucan.

Toucan is 88 years old and great timing because there was a picture just posted on Facebook.

He's still, he's working for Richie Waters on the lathe.

And yeah, if it weren't for David F.

And Toucan, you know, we sit on a pole my first time to Daytona, 192.7.

And a cheated up Pontiac Grand Prix.

I believe it.

And that was Toucan.

And so yeah, they are, they define my career, those two do.

And, you know, we forget about things, but thank you for bringing it up, Gator.

Oh, Alex, back here.

I wonder what your brothers are doing, like Stephen Wallace and Mike Wallace.

Great question.

I've already told everybody how much I love my brothers.

We have no sibling rivalry.

We love each other very much.

I think it's very important to tell everybody when people try to hit me against my brothers,

it hurts my heart.

We're not like that.

We don't have a sibling rivalry.

I seek attention.

That's always been like that, but that's on me.

I don't want their attention.

I just want to be part of the family.

Brother Rusty, I just saw him yesterday.

He's got all the money he needs.

He owns 11 dealerships in Knoxville, Tennessee.

So what Rusty enjoys doing now is raising money for the NASCAR Foundation.

And then out there in Sturgis, he gives away money out there for special needs.

So Rusty, all he does is raise money.

Brother Mike, he makes money on land himself.

He'd go to county courthouse steps and bids on buildings and buys buildings for nothing

and fixes them up and makes money.

But that's what they're both up to.

And right across the road here, they're building the best motorcycles in the world.

It's called Southern Country Customs.

And Rusty is doing that with Steven Wallace.

So hopefully that helps you.

Yeah, great question.

One more before I bring up some special guests.

Right over here, Alex, is...

I don't know where I'll...

Abigail's got it.

Right here.

Hey, I'm Cade from Enid, Oklahoma.

Oklahoma, right on, buddy.

Oh, yeah.

But so I watched the Chili Bowl every year.

Why don't you race the Chili Bowl anymore?

Why don't you race the Chili Bowl?

So, okay, I restored everything.

I won three of seven races at Volusia.

Tony Stewart came down and said, Herman, the first win, I thought, okay, the second one.

The third win, Tony Stewart came to me.

And he said, you're not a true dirt racer until you run the Chili Bowl.

So I ran the Chili Bowl, but I only made it to the J-Main.

So I saw Slam and Sammy Swindell.

And Sammy says, you ain't got any business being here.

I said, you're right, Sammy.

But Tony Stewart made me come here.

And I was so excited to run down there, turn the fuel on, flip the ignition switch.

I love the Chili Bowl.

I just promoted the 40th annual Chili Bowl.

I go down there.

All the open-wheel people are my friends.

The Blaineys, the boats, you know, priority aviation.

I love open-wheel.

They're my family.

They sponsor me, priority aviation.

So, you know, Ricky Stenhouse.

So the reason I don't run the Chili Bowl is it's not my lane.

I'm no good at it.

I'm a full-bodied stock car guy.

Stay your lane.

I'm not Kyle Larson.

He's a gift from God.

Not everybody can be like Kyle Larson.

Does that answer your question?

But there are a lot of people out there that aren't Kyle Larson.

They're still in the race.

Yeah.

And I went to the Chili Bowl, but, you know, I need a lot more reps, you know.

And Kim, Tony Stewart stops at my house because he's going to buy it at a moment.

And so we're talking about Tony Stewart, you know, it's like 10 years ago.

And it's funny, Tony says, okay, you got to run the Chili Bowl.

I look at my wife, her nose, her nostrils start flaring.

Yeah.

She's like, she's like, I see those open-wheel cars flip.

That's what they do.

They just flip.

They are nuts.

And Kim's like, you are not going to get my husband hurt.

So it was Tony's job to keep me in lane.

Yeah.

Well, listen, I think I'm just going to go all in on this campaign

to get you another O'Reilly start.

That's right.

Would Kim be on board with that?

Oh, is she going to have to be on board?

Yeah, I know there's not ever going to happen.

If I could run one more O'Reilly race, I'd be jacked up on Sundrop.

You'd be jacked up on Sundrop.

I would be.

I got a treat for you.

Yes, and it is.

Okay.

And it's a special treat for you guys.

I am so excited about what's to happen next.

Now, I don't know if you guys caught this, but we announced yesterday

that we're starting another new show at Dirty Moe.

And this is with not racing.

This is in the world of bull riding.

And we are in the presence of legends.

Yes, we are.

And we also have Jerome Davis.

Now, the legend right here is Tiffany Davis.

Yes.

But Jerome Davis, come here.

I'm going to give them a round of applause here.

Oh, Stan, Stan, I mean, the man.

This is a hall of famer.

These are awesome people.

Jerome, and you got here, we're going to put this on you.

And I'm just going to brag on you just for the next half hour.

Jerome, are you able?

I don't know what the rule is for cowboys

about their hats and headphones.

Is that right?

Okay.

They discussed it.

Herm, let me tell you something real quick

and then I'm going to let you loose on this.

Yep.

I met so Austin Dillon, who we both know.

He is the general manager of a team called the Carolina Cowboys.

Now, I don't know if I am so new to bull riding,

but Austin and I started talking about the PBR.

Richard Childress owns this team.

And Austin's like, you need to come to an event.

So I went to an event.

Me and Colby Bass went up there and we watched,

it was at Madison Square Garden.

And they're loading these bulls in five levels up.

And we were just like blown away by this.

Well, in the corner of our eye,

we're watching these bull riders go on it.

And in the corner of our eye, we see this blonde lady

and her husband.

And I could just see the entire PBR series just reacts to them.

There's just this influence.

There's this thing and I'm like, who are they?

That's the Davises.

That's Jerome Davis.

Jerome Davis is a legend.

And by the way, had a relationship with Dale Earnhardt,

friends with Bobby Labani.

And I'm like, there's so much NASCAR cross section here.

I got to meet them.

Turns out they live an hour away from here, Herm.

An hour.

And they have a Davis rodeo ranch where they have bucking bulls.

They breed them.

They raise them.

They get loose.

Sometimes they get out of the gates.

They chase them in the middle of the night.

You got to follow their social medias.

It is hysterical.

And I said, I got to do it.

I realized I'd started off going,

I need to do a podcast with these bull riders.

And then I quickly go, no, they're the podcast.

I need the Davises.

So ladies and gentlemen, welcome again, Jerome and Tiffany Davis,

the new host of this cowboy life, which I think I've got them dialed in.

When does it start?

Jerome, you want me to do this or you got this?

Yeah, you better do this.

We're still working our talking point.

So you've got, they've worked, this team guys,

we could not be more blessed with dirty mo media coming to us.

We were like, wow, if we were, we'd never even thought about doing podcasts.

Everybody used to say, you only do a reality show.

I'm like, I ain't doing a reality show.

Well, then might come to us about the podcast.

I was like, I don't know.

But we fell in love with you guys.

This dirty mo media team here and the whole group, y'all are awesome.

Thank you.

So anyways, what they started out, they said,

we're not just going to start out with a podcast.

We want to do a little mini docu series.

They go Hollywood it up.

So they wanted to tell our story.

She talks like me.

I was like, so they're going to start out with a mini docu series

to kind of tell our story, whether it's good or bad.

I don't know.

You're going to find out, but it starts June 24th.

That's the first one.

And then it'll roll three days in a row, 24th, 25th, 26th.

All right, Jerome, I'm putting you on the spot.

So when is the first talk show podcast?

You got this, Jerome.

June the night.

Do lie the night.

It starts with a J.

And the night.

It all runs together.

So that's right.

We're going to have a three-part docu series

just so you guys can know their story.

It is an amazing story.

Listen, Jerome was a bull riding world champion, world champion.

He has an accident in 1998.

As you were just saying about when race car drivers,

you know, when this is all they know, you and Schrader,

when Schrader doesn't have a race track,

what does a bull rider do without the bull?

Right.

And then when they told Jerome about you're not going to walk again,

his response was what?

Yeah, the doctor come in and they said, you know,

we got bad news.

And they was looking at Jerome.

They said, sir, you know, you're paralyzed.

You're not going to be able to walk again.

And Jerome's looking at the doctor.

He says, are you saying I can't ride bulls?

That's that was his response.

That's how much he loved it.

And I'm not playing because I was standing right there

thinking this kid ain't got a clue.

He's not going to be able to walk.

And he's worried about riding bulls

because I remember when you first in the hospital,

he was thinking, well, I'm going to be out the rest of the weekend.

It still hadn't hit him.

That's that's how much he loved it.

And that's how all bull riders are.

I say, this isn't a sport they do for a hobby

or just cause us fun.

They have to have that passion and love for it

because every time they get in that shooting on their head,

there's a chance of them not getting out of the arena.

Jerome, Jerome, tell us the story.

You were watching in the hospital race.

And then and then your pal, Bobby Labani, tell us the story.

So I met Bobby, him and Terry.

I'd hung out at Charlotte with him just a little bit

because there was a guy, an agent I had that kind of knew him.

So I got to know him through them.

And Bobby had a shop right there in Trinity,

which is near where I live in Orchdale.

So we had stopped by and talked to Bobby.

So I kind of knew Bobby a little bit.

And so the next day I got hurt on a Friday, Saturday.

I'm watching the race.

We're in Fort Worth, Texas.

We're in Fort Worth.

I'm laid up in the hospital and I'm watching this race

because I mean, I'm a fan.

I watch racing.

You know, I grew up in North Carolina.

That's what we do.

So I was watching the race on TV and I said, I kept telling,

I said, Tim, Bobby's got a shot to win this thing.

And I kept watching it.

Kept watching it.

Well, then at the end of the race that day,

Bobby, they're on their interview and he wins the race.

And he said, he said, I got a friend of mine that had an accident.

And he said, I told my wife before I run this race today,

whatever we won in this race,

I'm going to give it to my friend Jerome Davis.

That ass.

You know, and I thought, whoa, you know what I mean?

Jerome was hitting me.

He's like, did you just hear what he just said?

We did.

It was like over $50,000 that he gave me.

And you know, NASCAR, they're awesome.

He didn't stop after that.

Bobby stayed connected.

Well, all of NASCAR did because at the time,

it's hard to get insurance if you're a bull rider.

You know, nobody wants to insure a bull rider.

So the PBR, their insurance tapped out like $20,000 or something

after that we were on our own.

So but Jerome, when you get to know Jerome, you do love him.

Like he's a good guy.

I don't think he's got an enemy in the world.

And so they started doing these fundraisers

and the bull riders were donating stuff for fundraisers.

But back home when they would do them,

all the NASCAR community come together.

And the NASCAR people were awesome

about all the things they donated.

And by the bull riders and the NASCAR community,

everything that they put in for these silent auctions

and, you know, the things, the fundraisers,

we were able to pay all our hospital bills.

But when it was said or done, we didn't have anything.

That was, but now we did have a cop show up one day

with papers because we hadn't got them paid yet.

And we're like, it's coming, it's coming.

So it wasn't easy, but because of our friends and family

and NASCAR was a huge part of that.

A big part of that.

Yeah, that we were able to keep continuing on with life

in this crazy world and buy crazy bucking bulls

and go on the road.

I'm really taken aback about this new show in a wonderful way.

It's crazy as I am.

I'm a very emotional person.

I love people.

So I want to ask you a question in a good way.

And I want you to comment on what I'm going to say.

I watched the movie Eight Seconds.

And at the very end of the movie,

the bull rider is up in like a 58 baron.

And they looked down and they said,

let's go get their money.

And then, of course, he gets killed.

It's crazy because to this day, that is burnt into my brain.

And I think there's things in our lives that are burnt.

Whether we lost Dale Sr. or a bull rider, he was dominating.

Tell me about that movie Eight Seconds.

And do you like it?

Is it real?

Tell me about it all.

Well, here's what I know about Eight Seconds.

So I was in college living in West Texas at the time.

There's the bull riding that they won in that movie was Del Rio.

That was the one Lane won.

Well, I was entered in Del Rio.

I was down there.

When I packed up in a minivan and left North Carolina

and went to West Texas, I was just trying to get by.

That movie, they said, hey, if you'll put on this shirt

and these shafts and this hat and ride in it,

and I don't already pay my entry fees, I'm competing.

We'll give you 50 bucks for every bull you get on.

We had to get on three bulls.

I said, well, that's 150 bucks.

That's a lot of money.

Yeah, my fees were like 250.

So I'm getting there.

And they told me they said, if you use it in the movie,

we're going to give you another 500.

I said, well, heck, that's a deal.

So we did.

That's what we done.

But here's the tell the rest of the story.

I won Del Rio that day.

I won the bull riding at Lane one.

Well, when I won it that day, they actually used that part in the movie.

And if you watch Lane at Del Rio after you get stepped on

and he has to win it, if you look really hard, I got a big note.

You can see it.

You can see it in that movie.

But anyway, that was that was it.

Yeah, the movie.

What I didn't think was right about the movie was one thing.

Cody Lambert didn't ever write no poem.

Other thing from a poet.

Hollywood.

She said Hollywood and up early.

Here we go.

There's a theme going on.

I'm not going to ask them to write poetry on the show.

But you really knew Cody Lambert and he's not the happy little go lucky guy in the movie.

He's the hardcore old school cowboy.

All right.

Keep telling us the real stuff here.

So the other thing was Clyde Frost Lane's dad was not like that.

He was not a mean guy.

Like he was one of the most nicest, nicest guys you've ever been around.

And and I don't think they showed Lane's fate.

I didn't.

Lane, I didn't get to know Lane.

Lane got killed in 89.

I really come on the scene.

90 91.

After that, it happened.

So has anybody seen the movie?

We're talking about eight seconds.

So y'all know like everybody.

So y'all kind of one of the greatest, greatest movies of all time.

And it is very, it's very pretty, you know, close to everything besides that thing.

But Elsie Lane's mom had told me that was one thing that really bothered her about the movie.

But she had prayed about it.

You know, what didn't focus around their faith and she wanted to focus and it bothered her.

She said, but the Hollywood people that come in, the Baldwin guy and stuff that they got to minister to,

she said, what that went over the Hollywood set was amazing.

And then the part she didn't like was how they portrayed Clyde is this hard nose guy that him and Lane didn't.

And she said it was completely opposite.

She said, but after the movie come out, she realized that was all God's hand in that because

they have more people come up and said, you don't know how that restored mine and my son's relationship

after we watch that movie.

And she said she sees now that that all come about for a reason because it brought a lot of sons and

dads back together.

So, you know, things happen for a reason, but you know, you was talking about the guys,

another little thing, you know, you just talk about them flying in.

And one thing that always touches my heart, I get a little emotional thinking about,

because I'm like, you can we, we got big hearts.

We're bad asses, but we are exactly.

But you know, we love people.

We love people.

But you know, that day after Lane passed, so Cody and Tuft was in that little plane.

They to get him home.

They had to fly home with him in the plane and that went in.

Yeah.

So, you know, things like that and through the Cowboys and Lane's mom,

she knew they were having to fly home with their best friend in there.

So she had people there.

She was already thinking of other boys and she's like having met when they get out of the plane,

everything will be handled and stuff.

That's brutal.

Yeah.

So, but there's love, you know, it's a family.

It's love.

So for 27 years, I lived down here in Concord, North Carolina.

My address, I remember it 8995 Harris Road, not Harris, not Harris Boulevard, Harris Road.

Right around the corner was Stiegel's.

Stiegel's.

Yeah, you all know about this?

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

So on Sundays, you know, we'd be racing and I forgot what night it was, but man,

I'm living there.

I'm focused on my NASCAR career and I had no idea.

Some years went by and rolled down that road, little two-lane dirt road and it opened up.

It opened up and it was to me just unbelievable and my girls would start going there.

How many of these, I'm going to call it a rodeo joints are hid like that in America?

Or are they rare?

No, they're everywhere.

They are.

Yeah, they really are.

When I was a kid growing up, you could go to one almost every night a week, about an hour and a half.

In North Carolina.

Now, Texas, you don't realize in North Carolina there's that many.

North Carolina is actually, besides Texas, we've got a really big thing going on here.

Hell yeah.

Industry.

Like North Carolina is the belt of the bull riders and the stock contracted and stuff.

It was hid right in there.

I passed it a hundred times.

I see the lights come on, you know?

And my kids started saying, oh, it's so much fun.

Them bull riders are crazy.

Let me tell you something.

Jerome's daddy was the announcer.

He was the announcer.

His daddy was a carry on.

Like his dad was, he was as full as crap as you are.

And he would carry on and he was the announcer for that thing.

She knows you already.

Hey, you know, my comeback is I can carry on, but I go to Victor Lane too.

That always messes people up when I win a lot of races.

They're like, I'll get out of the dirt car nowadays, you know, win a big race,

5,000 win.

And they're like, it's really him.

How does he act so silly?

I'm like, there's a difference between silly and happy.

I'm happy.

You got to talk it.

You walk it too.

That's right.

Yeah.

We go to, we got lots of trouble.

That's right.

So I want to tell you guys a story real quick.

Cause, uh, you know, you mentioned Steve Gauls and having those rodeo.

So when we went up to the Davis rodeo ranch for the first time,

I'll I had was an address.

I didn't know what to expect.

Jerome, just so you know, let alone the fact that he's the coach of the Carolina

Cowboys and also the 2025 coach of the year, by the way, all these things.

This is, this is who he is.

Yeah.

That's a big deal.

And not only does Richard Childress, his boss, I guess, or is it Austin?

I don't know.

Both of them.

Awesome.

So, so we, we didn't know what to expect.

We go up there.

He's a, he's the, one of the founding investors of the PBR.

Okay.

So you invested a grand total of how much?

A thousand dollars.

And you, you scraped together to get that thousand.

He only had 500.

When they all had the meat.

I don't remember when, when the same time I was getting that $150 to ride at Del Rio,

they were asking me for a thousand dollars to start the PBR and I didn't have it.

I got 500 and I got some good bulls in California next week.

And I think I'm paying you the rest.

That's how it worked.

And I, but you were all in a motel room, right?

How many of there was y'all in that motel room?

There was 20 of us in a motel room.

Well, there was really about 20, what everybody don't know.

There was really about 25 of us.

And there was five of them and it was against it and didn't want to do it.

Talking about forming the PBR.

And they, they were saying we was going to mess up what was going on.

It's like their screen line hotel, right?

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

My mind is going.

Yeah.

So, so now they're saying, Hey, let's, let's get in thousand bucks.

Trome didn't have enough.

And I thought, man, I'm going to be left out.

But anyway, the guy, I wish y'all could see the guy we gave our money to,

this guy, he cussed every other sentence.

I mean, it was bad, but somehow it worked at the end of the day.

You had 500 though, right?

500 rode the bulls the next week.

You said, I've got a good bull this weekend.

Can I give you the 500?

They said, all right, we'll, we'll, we'll let you in.

So I say that to say this, the PBR eventually sold and they sold for more than a thousand

dollars Kenny, Kenny Wallace.

They sold for a lot more.

And then all of a sudden my man here goes, I got a little money.

Guess what he did with that money?

He built a, he built an arena in his front yard.

Hell yeah.

They're all laughing.

I'm gonna tell you something.

If you go to Jerome Davis.com, there's a video right there when you go on it.

Look at this video.

Think of the best high school football stadium.

This thing's got a press box.

It's, it is a bucking bull heaven.

It's redneck Disneyland.

Okay.

And, and I'm going to tell you something.

They put all their money.

This is my Tiffany.

What do you call this place?

What do you call it?

Because it didn't get your retirement money.

Oh, my lake house.

She calls it the lake house.

When you put them new bleachers in, I said, well that was my lake house right there.

If I was ever going to get one.

And every time all them people sit down, I'm like, I hope y'all like sitting in my lake

house cause that's it.

I won't ever get no lake house now.

I got a good comeback for that.

You know, here I've been racing my whole life.

I'm supposed to be retiring.

And my wife was like, you've been racing NASCAR and asphalt for 32 years.

I'm not going with you to them, them dirt racers.

So like two years ago, I, and this has to do with you and the lake house and this

other dream, you know, I told Kim, I said, okay, I think I'm going to quit racing.

She looked me square and I, she goes, you are not going to quit racing until your

grandbabies go to victory lane.

So, you know, rodeo is all, you know, it's met, always a pain in the

ass at rodeo or that race.

Yeah.

But that is what that's us.

And we don't know how to do nothing else.

I don't know what to do at a lake house to be honest.

So if there wasn't something to feed or feed,

it is.

Tell us what you do with this big arena now that you've got it.

Yeah.

So the first and third Wednesday during the summer, we do a rodeo because we're on the

road from Thursday to Monday.

So I told Tifty we didn't have enough to do.

So on Wednesdays, the first and third, y'all need to come and see us the first and

third Wednesday.

We have Wild West Wednesdays.

And then we got young kids riding sheep and young boys.

It started out, we just do it for the community.

Yeah.

Was this going to be about, and there's a few hundred people there, started out that way.

Now it's turned into.

There'll be 1,500, 2,000 people.

On a Wednesday night, I'm like, John, this is a lot of work for a Wednesday night.

You know, Dale Jr. and Amy, they have that little, well, it's not make believe it.

It's real little Western town.

Yeah.

Be really all, I'm thinking, I'm vision, maybe y'all have a little Western town up

there.

Like, there's a candy store for the kids.

You go over here.

That's such a great dynamic.

You know, Mike, I'm looking at you now and I never put two and two together.

The Western store now with the rodeo.

You guys could do a lot of videos down there at the Western store.

We just need y'all to just take the blue.

Dale's got the blueprints.

Build the Western town on the Archdale in Carolina.

Like a little love valley.

Anybody been in the love valley?

We're going to find out who the real rednecks are right now.

If y'all been in the love valley, y'all telling on yourselves.

We've been there a few times on sale.

So you call it Wild West Wednesdays.

It begins July.

June.

June is like, I see you again now.

Mike makes it up my jays.

So it begins a lot and people can just come to these things on Wednesday nights.

We've got the longest running outdoor PBR event.

It's June 26 and 27.

26 years we've been doing it here.

27 this year.

Yeah, we've been doing it.

And it's a PBR event.

So it's like you're, how would you compare it to race and what level?

I'll tell you a quick story.

So right after I got hurt, we did the PBR in my, we did my grandpa's old cornfield.

It's where this ring is at.

It was old dairy farmer.

Good soil.

Yeah.

So I told, I told Eddie, we'll just, we'll just put the arena right here at the cornfield.

There's enough room out here and we'll, we'll have it.

There was so many people, so many people.

So we didn't have near enough seat and people are on top of each other.

But that's when I knew we had something.

You know, I knew we was, we had started something because I got hurt.

People were talking about it.

Wanted to see me, I guess cause I'd been hurt, you know, and I was back home and

they just flooded that place.

You just reminded me of something though.

You got a story.

Tell, tell, tell Kenny and the, and these guys here about the time that people showed up

and you weren't prepared for it and why they showed up.

All right.

So before the cornfield, where I grew up, uh, we had another arena and that arena every

Thursday night, April through October, every Thursday night, me and daddy had a bull riding

and it was one of them steel golf type.

Yeah.

It was a little, it was, it was held in the, in the backyard pretty much.

We buck bulls there all the time.

Well, it was rough.

It was really rough cause the people would drink.

We'd get to sit on one side and the ones that didn't on the other side.

But this one particular night, people just kept coming in and they kept coming in.

And I, you just had to know me and my daddy.

We just get by, you know, it's all we can do to keep the bulls bed night.

I said, daddy, look at all these people that keep showing up.

I said, they're just rolling in here and they kept coming and kept coming.

We'll find out the kids at the school had lined up a fight and they were going to

fight at the, the rodeo that night.

Oh my Lord.

So, so they just kept coming.

Well, I found out who it was.

Well, I knew them kids, dads.

And I said, I said, uh, hey, look, I know y'all want them kids to fight.

And if y'all wait till after this thing, I said, we'll just, we'll let them slug it out.

Cause I knew their dads and they were good old boys.

So I said, after it's over, we'll let them slug it out and we'll be done.

Well, that's what we done.

And we let all the people that didn't know what was going on leave and they made a big

circle out there in the pocket light and them two old boys slugged it out.

And after it was over, they was done.

Yeah.

But tell them what you just said.

You asked them.

So I got to talking to them guys and I said, Hey, you think we can line the other one

and fight some next week?

Fight promoter, Dana White over here.

Get a quick question in here.

I flew in from St. Louis Sunday night.

I got off the airplane.

I saw two people with PBR stuff.

Well, you mentioned it is PBR.

I mean, you said North Carolina is big.

Why would I have seen, I told Mike this, I said, what's going on in North Carolina?

Was that luck chance?

PBR finals just got over with.

So you see them in the airport?

I flew, I left St. Louis.

I flew into Charlotte.

So you think they were coming back home?

We just got through this past weekend.

We've been out in Texas for 10 days.

They were popping home.

That's coming home from the finals.

Yeah.

That's so awesome.

Yeah.

So some of you guys don't know there's an individual season which ended last weekend

with the PBR.

That's where the guys are riding just for themselves.

Yeah.

And then the team season kicks off in July.

So that's why we have a group of guys rides for the Carolina Cowboys.

The, you know, and each team rides, you know, as a team.

So there's two different seasons, half and half now.

Used to just be one individual sport and the teams, this will be the fifth year that they've

started the teams.

And people are loving it.

We didn't realize this team concept.

People love rivalries and teams and stuff.

Herm, I'm going to tell you something.

I'm new to this.

They're talking in our ear.

I'm going to tell you something.

They are talking in our ear, but I'm going to tell you something.

Listen, I encourage, just watch one of these team events.

You'll see the Carolina Cowboys.

You'll see this man coaching them and he coaches them too.

It's really beautiful.

Better yet, watch the podcast.

Well, hold on a second.

I'm going to get there, but like, but like, you'll see what we're talking about because

they're really, they are really fascinating.

And when they kick this team season off, they'll run through October and the Carolina Cowboys

won the championship.

Boyle Austin Dillon was racing in Martinsville when they were in Vegas at the championship.

And I mean, he was going crazy.

But listen, I'm going to ask a favor from everybody right here.

So right now you can go to YouTube, pull out your phones and you can go to dirty mode rodeo.

There's a new YouTube channel.

It's dirty mode rodeo.

Go ahead, pull it by you.

You can do it right now.

If you're listening on serious XM and you're driving, just promise that you'll do it when you do it safely.

Don't do it while you're driving.

But listen, go follow the dirty mode rodeo YouTube channel because if you do, you will get

access to all the stuff that they're doing.

It is not just going to be this cowboy life.

They do stuff all the time and you will get access to that documentary and their stuff

before it goes out to everybody else.

So dirty mode rodeo YouTube channel, please go follow it, subscribe to it, do all those things

because we really want people to learn their story and see what, what, how we just fell

in love with this entire operation.

Yeah. And for me, it's a story in perseverance.

You know, you're a great couple.

You're a champion and here you've been dealt this card.

It kind of reminds me of Kyle Betty.

Kyle Betty losing Adam and he says, okay, we're going to go over here.

We're going to start to Victor Junction gang camp.

And that story Tiff that you told about him in the hospital, he's like, no, I got to get,

you know, okay, it changed a little bit.

But you're, you know, I think it's incredible what you're doing.

I admire you both.

I love you very much for not folding your cards and you're doing, you're doing even better.

I know you won't be on that bull, but you know, I said he ain't going to rust out.

He might wear me out.

Good job.

We've got less than three minutes and we're live.

So they're giving her always three, always three and that's a perfect way.

If you can do it in less than three minutes, tell us your Earnhardt crossroads.

Tell us how big he came into your life.

Well, Dale called me when I was in the hospital, which he would always.

So long, I know his pilot, uh, Mike Collier, he rode bulls years ago.

So Dale would always through Mike, I would, we was always passing stuff.

Well, then when I got hurt, uh, he, he come through at the, uh, at the hospital, he called me

and he said, uh, he actually called Tia, right?

And pick up phone.

Me and Drum went and married.

And when, when he called, he said, Hey, Tiffany, how's our boy doing?

I was like, Oh, he's doing pretty good.

He's hanging in there.

I was like, he said, well, this is Dale Earnhardt.

I was calling to check on him and I was like, I said, well, do you want to talk to me?

So I handed him the phone, but he had even learned my name before.

Well, and I don't know, but that's how sincere and kind he was that he knew my name too.

And then him and Drum talked for, I don't know how long on there.

I'm still afraid of Richard Petty.

To this day, when I see Richard Petty, I'm like, yeah,

there's some people that are bigger than life.

We have to tell you about the story on the podcast about Richard Petty and his grandkids

coming to cowboy camp.

Well, we'll open up.

We'll open up.

That's another, that's another show to be continued.

Tune in, but isn't that awesome?

But you know what was cool after that though?

Dale started, uh, the, the Justin cowboy crisis fund, they'll start a given to it.

Yeah.

Awesome.

People didn't know that, but he did.

He would give to it every year, uh, for rodeo cowboys that got hurt and, uh,

we can raise some money in NASCAR.

We can raise some money.

We really can.

Yeah.

And get it on.

You know, Dale got a bunch of cowboys in his family.

All his granddaughters and grand, he's, he's the genetics.

The cowboys is in Dale.

He is a cowboy.

Yeah.

He really is.

Well, that old Wrangler sponsorship sure did.

His daughter, granddaughters, all of them are cowgirls, real cowgirls.

Old punchy Whitaker got a tire store down here a hundred, a hundred years ago.

Uh, senior said, Herman, you go get, I moved from St. Louis.

Dale senior goes, Herman, you get your tires, you go down to punchy punchy.

He said, man, every morning, you know, senior used to live up there when he was

broke, like above the tire store.

He said he'd, he'd hear senior put it on his cowboy boots every morning.

So he really was a cowboy.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

For sure.

Yeah.

He always followed Jerome's career.

What was neat that I always say Dale said, when drum in the world, he was one of the first

ones they said, you know, congratulations and stuff.

That's amazing.

Listen, everybody, Jerome and Tiffany, thank you for being here.

Thank you for doing this cowboy life.

Thank you for being part of the Dirty Mo family.

Herm, thank you for being Herm.

You're going to count this baby right now.

I'm going to nail it baby.

Yeah, you are.

I'm going to nail it like a pro.

But listen, thank you all.

This has been Dirty Mo Live presented by Arby's Meat 3 Box.

Thank you for being here.

See y'all later.

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