The Ford Bronco is a type of SUV made to handle rough roads and trails. People talk about it a lot because it’s a well-known, collectible off-road vehicle. It may be mentioned because it’s an “icon” car that stands out in a collection.
They’re talking about a rumored/just-announced Ferrari electric vehicle called the Luce. The big point is that it’s an expensive “super SUV,” so people’s opinions are strongly tied to the price.
Lucid is an EV company that makes electric cars. Here, the host is basically saying: if this were clearly a Lucid EV, it would make more sense than it being positioned like a Ferrari.
“All-electric” means it’s powered by electricity only, using a battery. “Super SUV” is a way of saying it’s an ultra-premium, high-performance SUV—more like a luxury halo car than a normal SUV.
Edmunds is a car website that helps people research and compare vehicles. They’re mentioned because the host is quoting or referencing what Edmunds’ editor thinks about the strategy.
They’re talking about how car brands sometimes create a cheaper “starter” model to get more people into the brand. The point here is Ferrari supposedly didn’t do that with this EV, so the lineup strategy affects how people judge it.
Monterey Car Week is a big annual set of car events in California. It’s where people go to see and buy rare cars, and the host says it’s gotten really expensive.
The McLaren F1 is a famous supercar made by McLaren. It’s known for being very special and rare, and people get excited when one shows up at big car events.
Spiker is a car brand mentioned as being “back” and actively working to get a car returned to the Monterey Car Week area. The host discusses how the brand might stage a launch or display, and where it could be located.
This is a historic racing event at a track, sponsored by Rolex. The hosts are saying it’s where you’ll see classic Japanese race cars and BRE cars on display.
Pete Brock was a famous racing designer who helped create some of the most iconic cars in American motorsports history. Here, they mention him because he designed the Shelby Daytona Coupe and also worked on BRE’s racing cars.
A grand marshal is an official ceremonial role at an event, typically given to a prominent person who represents the event’s heritage or theme. Here, Pete Brock is expected to serve in that capacity at the reunion.
The Datsun 510 is a classic Japanese compact car that racers liked because it was easy to modify and could be made fast. Here, they’re talking about the racing version connected to BRE’s famous 510 cars.
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Hino Transporter truck
The Hino Transporter truck is a Japanese truck they’re bringing for the BRE-themed show. They’re highlighting it like part of the racing story, not just as a random vehicle.
The Shelby Daytona Coupe is a famous old race car from the 1960s. It’s known for its special aerodynamic shape, and the episode credits Pete Brock with designing it.
The Shelby Cobra is a high-performance sports car made for racing and fast driving. It’s famous because it was designed with speed in mind, including for major endurance races. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as part of the story of how Shelby race cars were developed to be faster.
This is a 1963 Corvette, and “split window” means the rear window area is shaped in a split pattern. It’s a well-known styling feature that helps people recognize the exact Corvette year.
The RX-7 is a Mazda sports car. What makes it special is that it uses a rotary engine, which is different from the usual piston engines most cars have.
The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck. It’s used for hauling and everyday driving, and it’s also a popular starting point for performance modifications. It comes up in podcasts when people visit shops that build upgraded trucks.
This is a 1995 Ford Mustang Cobra race car. The important part is the engine choice—it wasn’t the newer “modular” engine, and it used a 351 V8 that was bored out to make more displacement.
A “modular motor” is Ford’s name for a certain family of engines they built to be shared across different cars. Here, the point is that the race Mustang Cobra didn’t use that engine family.
“Punched out” means the engine cylinders were bored bigger. That increases the engine’s size (displacement), which can help it make more power for racing.
A livery is the car’s paint and graphics scheme—basically how it’s “decorated.” “Movie livery” means it was made to look like the version used in the movie.
Endurance races often split cars into groups (classes). “Won his class” means he was the best in his group, even if he wasn’t necessarily first overall.
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Roush Mustang Cobra
This is a special racing Mustang made by Roush. The host is talking about a specific competition car that Tommy Kendall used to win a lot of races.
PPF (paint protection film) is a clear protective layer applied to a car’s paint to help prevent chips, scratches, and minor abrasions. When the host says the car may have been “PPF’d,” they mean it might have had this film installed to preserve the finish after racing.
Le Mans refers to the famous French endurance racing venue, associated with the 24 Hours of Le Mans. In this context, it’s used as a reference point for where the car has been before being protected and displayed.
Patina is the natural look a car gets as it ages—like discoloration or wear from use. In this case, they’re saying the aged look is still there and part of the appeal.
A “V10” is an engine with 10 cylinders. The cylinders are arranged in a V shape, and it usually gives the vehicle plenty of power for driving long distances.
“Drive-thru pads” are campground/parking spots designed so you can pull in and park without backing up. For larger motor homes, this reduces the difficulty of maneuvering and lowers the risk of getting stuck or scraping equipment.
Ram is a truck brand. They’re talking about a Ram T-shirt design that’s based on the look of another truck (a Tacoma).
Term
AI
AI here refers to automated image-generation or design tools that can create graphics from prompts. The hosts criticize the result as inaccurate—specifically mentioning the American flag having “way too many stars.”
The Toyota Tacoma is a popular pickup truck. Here, they’re joking about a T-shirt design that looks like a Tacoma but swaps in a Ram-style front grille.
Drifting is when a driver intentionally makes the car slide sideways while still steering and controlling it. It’s a popular motorsport-style activity at car shows.
The Chevrolet Impala is a full-size car made by Chevrolet. It’s popular with collectors, so you might see a lot of them at car events or in collections. In the episode, it’s mentioned because there are many Impalas and they’re considered interesting classic cars.
Motor oil is the liquid that keeps an engine’s moving parts from grinding against each other. Here, people also used it on dirt roads to help keep dust down.
An “LS motor” is a GM V8 engine family that a lot of car people like to modify. It’s known for being strong and easy to tune, which is why people talk about huge horsepower numbers with it.
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my friend Brad Fanshawe, my partner on the Shipton Steer podcast, joined me today. Last
week, if you guys noticed, the podcast kind of got released at an odd schedule, and there
was more Edmunds shows, and that was just because of my recording schedule really kind
of got got messed up. I wasn't able to do it on the normal day. So we got a little bit delayed,
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friend Adam Corolla got a star on the Walk of Fame and Hollywood. And they usually do those
events kind of during the day. And they have some fans come out and, you know, friends of Adams
and some family and stuff. So I kind of helped that application process for him like over the
years of making that happen. And so we went down to see it. It was great. Jimmy Kimmel said some
really nice stuff and he was funny. And Dr. Drew was one of the speakers as well. And Brian Allen
was there, which was funny because Adam had made a joke about Colbert being off the air. And Brian
Allen is his media company is now taking that spot doing the comedy show that's in that spot. So
he's like, oh, little tension in the room. But no, it was it was good. Joe McHale. If you guys don't
know Joe McHale is a comedian. He's on Animal Control into the show community. But maybe a
long time ago. Yeah, that was where I remember him from. Yeah. And he's a car guy too. I think he's
got like an icon Bronco and a couple of other things that are really cool. So
he's good friends with Adam and he's so nice. So he was there. And yeah, a bunch of, you know,
Adams friends from, from, from entertainment. And, you know, Sonny was there and Natalia was
there. His kids were there. It was a good event. So I probably missed a discussion about this car.
Maybe did you guys hear about this? It's a Ferrari Luce. Oh, did they come out with a new car?
It hasn't been in the press yet, I guess, or I would have known about it. It's interesting how,
like, at least in our bubble of automotive news, the whole world is talking about this car.
Not a lot of like feedback. And then so I talked about it on CarCast last week with that. Wait a
minute, wait a minute. You say that, but it's everywhere. In fact,
I even read an article about how even car people are going, that's a Ferrari. You know, it's, yeah.
So we talked about it last week and we put the video up and someone was like,
well, maybe you don't like it, but it's already sold out. I was like, I know, I know it's going
to sell. I don't care. It doesn't make it any better. And so I'm sure there was a lot to say
about that car. Now, the performance numbers are super interesting. I don't necessarily hate it as,
like if you said this is Lucid's new all-electric super SUV, I'd be go, okay, well,
no, I would still hate it. You know why? The price. All right. Well, that's the other issue.
That's ridiculous. Yes. So I don't know what you and Aaron talked about in regards to this, but
on CarCast, Alastair and I, and for those of you who don't know, he's the editor-in-chief of Edmunds,
we were saying, interesting approach that Ferrari didn't try to make this as the new entry-level
vehicle to Ferrari. If it was $250,000 and they had a high performance, you know, EV and said,
yes, you can get into a Ferrari. We want to sell a bunch of these. Let's make this happen. It's
your new entry-level. And then all of the more expensive Ferraris would be the prestigious ones
that have the, you know, the more characteristic design style and things like that. They didn't do
that. And I guess part of it is we understand that EVs are expensive to make. And an EV with
that battery size and an EV with that performance is expensive. Now, I think this will end up being
a highly profitable car for them because it's not $250,000. It's $640,000, but also all their cars
are highly profitable. But keep in mind $640,000 before tariffs, before taxes, before options,
like you're going to be spending. That's an entry. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to be spending $800,000
on this thing by the time it's done. So that part I just, I don't get. I like the interior.
I don't know that I love it for a Ferrari. I don't hate the look of it. The look doesn't do anything
for me. You're going after the Singer customer. There was an interesting pose. It's cheaper than a
Singer. It kind of looks like the new Nissan Leaf. And it wasn't Nissan USA, but it was like Nissan
of Europe posted photo of the Leaf and the Luce. And then they're like, we're flattered. Thank you so
much. Yeah, I saw that one. Yeah. I was like, oh, that's great. So you got to kind of have
to love social media. If they were to do Ferris Bueller's day off like a remake,
they wouldn't cast that car. They would not. They would not use this car.
Unless he was a Dotcom billionaire and he was very young and he was making hundreds of millions
from his bedroom and they wanted to put it in there. Maybe they would. Maybe it would be the car
that they took out for the day and went to all the different places. The Ferrari Luce.
The Ferrari Luce. So out here, maybe you, I don't know if you have this in Orange County as much as
we do around like Venice and LA is we have the food robots. We have Coco. No, we don't see this,
at least in my neighborhood. We don't see them. Okay. So we have Coco. Coco is this,
it's like a cubby. It's like a bin with wheels and it has big lights in the front that look
like eyes and Coco is a food delivery robot. So instead of Uber delivering your food, you'll see
them like. Coco does? Coco does. So Coco will be like outside a sweet fin, you know, like a,
or a sushi place or pizza place and then you go in and they fill it with food and then Coco
starts hitting the sidewalks and starts driving toward your house and delivers you the food.
Oh, so Coco delivers it. It's not like Coco's standing on the corner and you walk by and goes,
hey kid, you want to, you want a taco? No, although that'd be funny. I'm not sure that was the voice
it would use, but it'd be awesome. Hey kid, you want a taco? So what, what I saw on the
California road, the back of the Luce and I'm trying to find out. Yeah, where it looks like
a teletubby swallowed a Ferrari there. The back of the Luce looks like. Like Coco? Like Coco, right?
So here's the, there's the eyes, right? That's the back of the Luce. And then
let's see if I can find. Coco robot. Find Coco's image.
There's Coco's face. Coco.
I'm scrolling through images. I don't know. I saw something about Sam Altman. Sam Altman owned
Coco or developed. Oh, I don't, I don't know. There it was again.
Where is, I don't know why none of the pictures show Coco's face. No, go back up. Go back up. Yeah,
one more, one more. The white one there. Is that Coco? Yeah, so it kind of looks like that. Yeah,
but the front of Coco has the two, it looks just like the Luce. Yeah, it does. It looks a lot like
it. It looks like the Luce is going backwards to deliver you a Poke Bowl.
And it's, and the one thing said Sam Altman was the backer of Coco robot. Probably it makes
sense, but I see them everywhere and they are adorable, which I'm sure the Luce is adorable
in person. They're adorable now, but when Sam Altman tells his robot army to start ticking down
everybody, that's what happens. That's what's going to happen. Like an eye robot. So it's going to
happen with the Tesla robot. Exactly. Okay, so are you, do you think you're going to go to
Monterey Car Week? Oh, I thought you were going to say if I was going to buy one of these,
because I was considering it. I've been thinking about putting the deposit down. Yeah, just sell
everything you own. 10%, you're going to put 10% down and you're going to sell everything you own
so you can get an $800,000 EV from Ferrari. That'll be $400,000. I would only have to sell
it. It'll be worth half as much. Exactly. I'll take an appreciating asset and buy a depreciating
asset because I won't be alive 30 years from now when maybe it's a classic. I will tell you this,
if I was betting on Fanduil right now, wink, wink, I would bet the Luce loses its value more than
any Ferrari probably ever because EVs just in general just don't really hold their value.
I think the Luce is going to suffer from that as well. I think everyone's done with the Luce
already. I was asking about Monterey Car Week because it's likely we will see it up there.
I have got to be honest with you. I don't think I'm going to make it again this year. I don't
think I can afford it. It's gotten so damn expensive. It's very expensive. The last time I
was up there, which has been four years now, I hate to say, but the Airbnb we stayed in was 10
grand, man. It was nuts. I'm like, I can't do that every year. I miss it because I really,
really enjoy going. It's such a great event, but it's also gotten overtaken by so many Instagram
people and stuff like that. That's another reason. It's a little crazy because all those guys and
girls are all over the streets and walking around in the parking lots. Every free area that they're
into. I'm standing next to it. This is a McLaren F1. There's a lot of that and also some dangerous
things. There's a lot of people just in the middle of the roads. I'm sure you'll see the Ferrari
Luce up there if you go for those of you that are going. Another interesting thing is Spiker is back
and they're rushing to get the car back up there. They're doing a countdown, I think,
on their website. I wonder if they'll be in the same place they always were because they had an
iconic place. It was when you walked from the auction area at Pebble Beach towards the hotel
area, you go through that little kind of vending area. I know this because back when I worked
with Flexjet and consulted from them, they sat right next to Spiker on the street that was blocked
off and it was really cool. I don't know where they're launching. Do they just bring a car and
put it on the Pebble Beach concept lawn? I don't know if there's a fee for that. I don't know how
that works, but it's not a big booth or whatever. Or do you think they're going to launch at the
quail? Do you think they're going to make that investment because they're back? Where is their
money from? That's what it depends. How much money they have to relaunch because quail is
expensive. Quail is expensive just to go to, let alone. It's very restrictive on what you can do
and can't do. Again, we worked with Flexjet there and they were like, they pay all this money to be
part of it and then they get three passes. They're like, well, it's a long event. We can't have people,
well, the people that set up hand their three passes to the first crew that's coming in.
And as those people leave, it was like, wow, it was pretty crazy. But that's how they keep it
exclusive and how they keep it. I love that event. It's a great event. I hold nothing against them
there. Yeah. Well, car weeks should be good if you guys haven't been following along that the
Japanese race cars are going to be one of the featured marks at the Rolex, the Motorsports
reunion at the track. Oh, is that what it is this year? They're going to have, Pete Brock is going
to be there. I think he's going to be a grand marshal and Adam is going to be bringing, we've
got a handful of cars that we're bringing. So he's racing the BRE 510, the Datsun 510,
but we're going to be bringing, we're still kind of working out the details, but the BRE
Hino Transporter truck, the Privateer BRE 510, it's not fully built, but we've got it done and
painted just no engine in it yet. That's the yellow and white car. It's still in the BRE
graphics. Pete Brock designed it, but it's the yellow and white car. I don't think anybody's
seen that car in a long time. No, that one didn't ring a bell. Who's this Pete Brock guy?
And Pete Brock, he's this young guy. He's this kid that used to work for Shelby and
GM and had his BRE as Brock Racing Enterprises. He had a racing team. He was a designer at Shelby.
He designed the Shelby Daytona Coupe. They wanted a Cobra that was faster at Le Mans,
and he designed the Corvette, the 63 split window Coupe. Yeah. Yeah, which he has original like
sketches of framed in his house from back in the day, which are really, really cool.
So we're bringing the BRE Roadster. We're bringing the yellow 510, I believe. Adam's going to race
the number 85, BRE 510, maybe have the transporter there as well, the Hino Transporter. And then we'll
see. We're just kind of figuring out how to get everything up there and get it displayed. I believe
it's all at the track, so I don't know if the quail is doing something as well. I've still got a
call over to them, but it should be kind of fine. If you guys have been to Japanese cars,
been to Japanese racing cars and stuff, there's going to be a bit of that display going on. So
you're saying this whole year up there is going to be like Fast and Furious, huh?
Yes, a little bit Fast and Furious. I guess I haven't talked to Tommy Kendall, but I think he
has an RX-7. And the chicken car. He has a chicken car, but that's not Japanese.
I, Japanese like chicken an awful lot. You could kind of skirt it in there, I think.
Could possibly, possibly. Maybe he brings his RX-7 up there. I'm not sure what he's doing. I should
find out. But yeah, there's some cool cars. You know, you want to pitch him on that whole thing
about, you know, Chinese or excuse me, Japanese chicken, you know. And then I meant to ask you
as well, have you, have you ever visited the Roush Museum in Detroit? I have not.
So years ago. Into the Ford Museum and some other museums, but not the Roush.
Yeah. So years ago, I'm not sure exactly how we got involved with it, but we were screening
the documentary of the 24-hour war. It's Ford versus Ferrari at Lamar. Remember that one.
We were doing a screening of that with a Q&A session at the Henry Ford Museum. And
also during that time, like the Peterson Checkered Flag 200 Club planned
like a trip to Detroit and visit a few different things.
One of the places we went to was, I'm so sorry, I'm forgetting his name. I'm so sorry, buddy.
The guy who does the Tucker's Rob item. Yeah. Yeah. Rob. And, and so we visited his place.
We visited the Henry Ford Museum. And then I don't remember the whole group. Somehow,
I don't know, Adam and I ended up at the Roush Museum. And you're going to tell me there's a
chicken car there. There was not a chicken car here, but this was all coming around.
Pretty much everything Roush has raced over the years. It's just been kept in this collection.
Talk about foresight going, you know, hey, we're going to just keep the racing cars and build a
giant museum for it. And when things were bad in Detroit, I remember Roush buying up buildings,
I don't know, for like pennies on the dollar. So we visited Roush Performance. So we saw the
cars and trucks that they're building, the new cars, Mustangs F-150s and some other building.
Then we went to the museum and some very, very cool stuff in there, especially if you're a Mustang
fan. But one of the cars that was in there was a 1995 Mustang Cobra racing car. So the Cobra
didn't have the modular motor. It was like a, it was a 351 punched out to like 6.1 liter
carbureted car, but kind of at the tail end. So Paul Newman raced that and his, his movie,
I said, nobody's fool. I think it's nobody's fool. That movie, they scraped up a little bit of money
from the studio to run the movie livery on that car. And he won, I think he won his class at the
24 hours of Daytona and like third or something overall, or maybe he's like eighth overall,
but won his class in that car. So it's a Daytona winner in that car. And we saw that car 15 years
ago, 12 years ago at that museum. And we're like, if you ever want to sell this, let me know.
And nobody called, nobody said anything, but a big chunk now of that Roush collection,
a bunch of the racing cars. It's all going up at Meekum auction in Tennessee in September.
Yeah. And one of the other cars was in there. So that was the 95 Roush Mustang Cobra,
but the 97 Roush Mustang Cobra, which is the Tommy Kendall championship car where he won
something like 11 of 15 races in that car. That car is going up. That's the,
you might remember it. It's, it's like black and green and it's all sport, like the energy drink
or the hydration drink. All sports. Yeah, that sounds familiar. Yes. Yeah. That was a very famous
sports car racing, you know, in the sports car world, very famous car. So that's cars
going up. Anyway, there's a bunch of the cars on the docket. There's no estimates yet, but
the interesting thing about the Newman car is when we saw it, it looked like it was restored and
was fresh. But if you go to the Meekum site, I didn't know this. They raced the car and because
the 24 hours of Daytona was the last race of the season, they won the race. They took the car right
back to Roush and didn't touch it. So all the dirt and the bugs and everything on it was still there.
They removed that body. They made a new body. So when you buy the car, you get it with the
original dirtied up Daytona 24 hour, you know, race result body, and then you get an extra,
like fully restored from scratch body on that car. So it's very, there is. I don't know
if they like PPF'd it or did anything because when I was at Goodwood years ago and Goodwood
was right after Le Mans and and Porsche did their modern day Porsche, but they did the pink pig
livery with the different like slices of meat, whatever. And they, they brought that car right
from Le Mans to Goodwood. And they said, right when we took it off the track, we just put PPF
over it. Just dirt, bugs, everything, like everything is just on it. And they're like,
I don't know how long it's going to last, but we're just going to keep it that way. So I don't
know if that's what Roush did. I'm guessing if it's PPF now, that's not what they did originally
because there wasn't a PPF. It wasn't a paint protection film in 1995, right? They just used
superglue and you know, kind of the wings of the little bugs, they kind of superglue. Yeah,
I don't know how they did it, but maybe they just, I don't know, they just put it on a shelf.
And here's the thing, it's like, it doesn't have extra dirt on it. So it's not like they put it
on a shelf and it collected dust, you know, for 30 years. It just, it's exactly the way it was.
So that patina to it. Yeah, it's there. Maybe they sprayed it. Maybe they clear coated it or
something. I don't know. I'm curious to see what they did, but it, it displays very
cool because now you can get the card. You can go, we're going to show it with the original dirty
body or if you want to race it like in Monterey, you can put the new body on it. And so when we
saw it, it had the new body on it, but for me, at least for the pictures, for me, they put the old
body back on it. But anyway, there's a bunch of the Roush stuff that's up for sale and we have no
idea what the estimates are, but it has peaked our curiosity. Peaked. Peaked. Yes. Well, I'll tell
you, I'm not sure if I'm going to make it up there, but if I do, I'll come see you. And if I don't,
I'm still going on a vacation. Are you going to the Barrett Jackson auction? Well, yeah, I'm going
to that. I always go to that. No, I mean the new one. The one in Columbus, Ohio? Yeah. I am not.
I am not. I thought about it, gave it some really good consideration, and then I decided instead
to take a road trip. All right. I'm going to, I'm taking a motor coach and going out on the road,
man. Are you? I am. am going to go to, up to Utah and I'm going to go to
all the Utah type places and see all the national parks and go to all those really cool places
that are up there, Moab and like that. And I already got my place reserved in Moab at the RV
park. And then I'm going to swing across and back down and come back down through the Grand Canyon
and through Arizona and down to, what's the place I'm trying to think of? Anyways, a bunch of stuff
there. Sounds well planned. Yes. And then my friend has a house up in the White Mountains in Arizona.
We're going to visit them, do some side by side driving, and then cruise back home.
Are you going to rent a motor coach or are you going to try to come into your Mikey's?
No, I bought one. Did you? I bought a pre-vose, a 2024 pre-vose.
Did you use your Ferrari Luce money? I did. I did, but I didn't have any left.
I actually put it on my American Express card so that I would get the points,
and that's how I'm paying for the fuel, is with the points that I used to buy the...
Oh yeah, it was by a million dollar coach. Yeah, exactly. So I get a million points,
and that'll pay for my gas, my fuel. No, I'm actually, I'm renting one. And I've never done
anything like this in my life. I've never rented a... I mean, I've rented motor homes for like
photo shoots and stuff like that, but I've never done one to actually take a trip where I have
no schedule, there's no car show, there's no Barrett Jackson, there's no... It's just on the road.
What did you rent? Do you know what the coach is going to be?
I rented a 30-foot motor home that has a V10 in it, and it looks nice in the photos.
But I'm going to go the extra-trestial highway and look for aliens. I'm going to... I'm going all
kinds of places. And then you had to reserve some spots to camp or park it or whatever.
I'll tell you the secret. I talked to my brother-in-law into doing the same thing.
So he's leaving Nebraska. I'm leaving California. We're going to meet up in Moab, Utah, and he does
this stuff all the time. So he rented all the places, and then I just pay him back. I don't
have to coordinate or do anything. I just go up. Because he knew stuff like, oh yeah, well,
we want to go to parks that are what they call drive-thru pads. You just pull in and park. You
don't have to back in or anything like that. And some of them are size restrictions. Because
you said 30-foot, which makes sense. But some of them, for the bigger buses, they don't say it.
It'll be fun. I'm really, really looking forward to it because it's not like a...
It's like Moab is 10 hours away from here. I got two days to get there. That means I can
have some fun along the way. It's not like I got a, oh, I got a white-knuck loot and get there.
It's not that kind of vacation. So doing that in July, Matt, doing that in July.
It's perfect because of how many energy drinks and how much UP. Now you're taking the toilet with
you. That's what I'm hoping. It's got cruise control. So if I got to take a pee, I just get
up, walk to the back, take a leak and come back. You're just like Murphy the dog. You just drive.
I'll be back in two minutes. Why couldn't it be like a Tesla where it has self-driving mode?
I could be back there watching TV. Can you imagine if they put self-driving mode in
how many people would be doing that? Oh, I just went to the back to take a nap.
But this weekend, I talked about it every year. This is the fourth year and I've been every time.
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Yeah, that's right. We're back and I was talking about Dirty Fest. Dirty Fest is an event for those
of you that are really into BMX, which I know I bring it up because a lot of hot rod guys,
a lot of car guys, they love BMX because it was their first hot rod that they could have,
gave them the freedom and like that. Well, Dirty Fest goes back to old school.
All the old pros come. They show up. All the bike manufacturers that are left show up and all the
new ones that are in the scene and they build a retro track. This year, it's going to be a downhill
track. It's going to be awesome. It's probably going to put some old guys in the hospital. It's
going to be great. Are you going to be one of them? What's that? Are you going to be one of those guys?
Heck no. I raced the first year and after that, I said, I'll just show up. I'll take a couple
laps, but I'm not going to race because these guys get silly. I mean, they get silly. They get
like way, way serious. Let's put it that way. Some of them, like the guy you just went past,
EC, Eric is a guy that rode for me at Vision and he went on to be one of the top,
you know, not only a top pro in BMX, but he went on to a huge career in mountain bike racing.
These guys, some of them are still in their late 40s, so they really go for it. They go for it
seriously. Some of the older guys go for it. There's a couple guys out there that are in their 60s
and they are fast. They are fast and they're crazy. Yeah. Crazy fast. So if you're into that kind
of thing, Temecula, it's happening. As you're hearing this for the first time on Friday,
there's still time to go out there because it runs Friday, Saturday and Sunday and it's a
neat event. They have a big midway out there. They've got a bike show, huge bike show, which is just
like custom cars because there's all the classes and the guys build their bikes. It's pretty cool.
You got to swap me. You did it a few years ago and raced. Yes. You raced in the class where
everybody tapes ice packs to their knees. No, come on. What bike did you race? I know you've
been restoring some bikes and you have some frames and stuff around, but did you have one that was
ready to go or did you borrow one? Well, I had a bike and I rebuilt it. It was a 1977 power light.
I built it up with some alloy wheels and everything era. Matt, I got out there and I
realized that I forgot that I've grown and the bike hasn't. It seemed a lot smaller,
but I still podiumed. I got third overall on my bike and the way they do it is not by age,
they do it by the age of the bike. They have an era for people that, and my bike was in the first
era and it was like up till 79, I think. I raced that. Look at that. Okay. A whole bunch of power
lights. Very similar to that. This one says 1975. 1977. Is that your bike? Is it green?
No. Mine's like that. Blue. Very similar to all silver components. Yeah. Very similar to that.
Okay. It was a fun bike. It was a great bike to have back in the day.
A few years ago, you took one of these BMX bikes out. You raced it. You jumped, raced.
Raced, jumped. How'd you do? Thread. I got third overall. Really? Yes. How many people were in the
bike? About 20 guys. I should say, and there was one little girl in a tutu because, as I said,
you sign up by the age of your bike and I get up there and there's this 12-year-old girl wearing a
pink tutu and I'm like, she's in my class and they're like, yeah. We put her over the berm,
got rid of her early. She won, didn't she? Yeah. She smoked all you old timers. My buddy who
still races all the time, he gets real serious and he races a couple different classes. I'm like,
how do you race a couple different classes? I'm so winded by the time I get to the bottom of the
track that I couldn't push my bike back up to be ready and go with a different bike. He raced
a couple different classes. He regularly does very well, but I rode his bike, which is an old
Huffy Mono shock. The way they guys have these bikes set up, Matt, it's just like we would set up a
car. They've redone the shocks on them. They've re-set up everything to where they ride great.
I was like, I didn't expect this to ride like this. I'm getting in the shock-mounted class.
I rode his bike last year down the track several times and way faster than I was on my little
micro molly bike. It was fun. It's a great event. It's really great to see a lot of
guys I used to sponsor, guys I used to race against. It's a really good time. One of the
greatest things is back in the day when I raced, when I raced pro and like that, they never had
beer afterwards. They've got a brewery out there and you can get there. They do special wraps and
the special brews for events. They've got these like over the berm beer and they've got all the
great names and stuff like that. It's fun. On Saturday night as their party, they have
a guy that brings in pit bikes. Pit bikes are little 15-inch wheeled bikes, little mini bikes.
They have all these guys that have been standing around since the race
just drinking beer and then they all register for it and they race around a different track.
It's a little bitty mini track and oh man, it gets exciting to watch.
Do you want to see some elbows flying? That's where it happens. Dirty Fest. This is year four
and they're expecting 5,000 people this year so it should be a pretty good deal.
Sounds good. Yeah. So road trip this summer, dirty fest this weekend and the only thing
I'm disappointed in is I didn't pick up one of those new Ram Truck T-shirts because I can't
wear that. The Ramcoma. Did you see that Matt? I did. I did see it. It's funny.
So somebody in marketing decided they could do a shirt just like the designers could only.
They forgot that AI, if you're not careful with it, doesn't do a very good job and
their American flag had way too many stars and unless there's something we don't know about and
Trump has conquered a few more states that we didn't know and the biggest thing was that the
truck looked like a Toyota Tacoma with a Ram grille and they actually printed them,
put them up on their site and then someone pointed it out. I think it was Mobile One,
the website motor one, excuse me, not Mobile One. There it is. You got it. Ram tried selling a
patriotic T-shirt with a Toyota Tacoma with a Ram grille. How many stars are on there? I'm curious.
We got 245 and we have 2345678 rows of five. Yeah,
I think they went a little overboard on the stars and the stripes.
Yeah, that's, it's so funny. How did, I don't think this even went through Ram, right? Like,
this is just some, it's got to be some company that got permission to do it and
I couldn't see how that would ever get through and I'm sure the person who did it no longer is
employed. Because it's so weird. It's so bad. The only thing that would have been worse would
have been if the Ramshorn would have been like the LA Rams logo or something like that, you know.
But here you are. You're like, you're somebody at the company, somebody at Ram, right? It's
the Lantus and they said, all right, let's launch the shirts or somebody said, or somebody pitched
them, we're going to launch the shirts, you pay your fee, you have the graphic design done and
then they just have AI do it and botches it, but they launch it anyway. So now you're also thinking
like, oh, I got duped into paying, I don't know how many thousands of dollars for your graphic
designer as well when you didn't do anything, right? So I mean, interesting because why would you
work with that company again? You're like, you guys aren't really doing it. It's like, wait a minute,
we could screw up that bad ourselves. Yeah. Any intern over at Ram could have been like,
sure, I'll just have AI make you a shirt. I go back to the same thing. It's like they have these
giant design departments that go through every ideation of a new vehicle. Why wouldn't they
have one of those guys go and most of their designers would love to do it? Hey, how would you
like do our new t-shirt? Yeah, man, all that'd be great. I'll do it over the weekend and give
it to you on Monday and then you give it to your agency to, okay, now make this into a t-shirt.
This is a great design, but I don't know, it doesn't make any sense, but they actually sold
some. I wish I had one. It'd be a great little memorabilia piece of that.
Right. You were talking about events and I wanted to just quickly mention that
Fuelfest is coming up. It is. Southern California Fuelfest is coming up and it's in your town,
so you should go. Orange County Fairgrounds in Costa Mesa, June 13th. It's usually an
afternoon and night event, 2pm to night pm. There's going to be car shows, going to be
drifting. There's a concert series that's going on. There's a bunch of fun stuff out there.
I went to the Pomona one last year, I think, but they've grown it. They've made some changes to it.
It's going to be a great event. This is all part of Cody Walker's deal. He's the man in charge of
Fuelfest. Check out Fuelfest.com. You can see what's going on out there. You can see what the
performances are. There are some ride-alongs. There's some drifting. Last year, Tyrese came out.
Vin Diesel came out. They made some announcements about the fast and furious movies. Now there's
talk of a TV show, possibly a couple of TV shows being developed at Universal. Don't be surprised
if a couple of those guys show up as well. I heard there's a chance that the guys from
Shifton Steer might show up. They might. Probably have a stage.
Yeah, not at the event, just outside in the parking lot. We'll have a tailgate.
We'll have a tailgate party. AI Brad will be there. We should host a Shifton Steer tailgate party.
Just have all five of our fans there. It'd be awesome. If you think we should do that, hit us up
on social media. Maybe we can put that together where you hang out with Matt and Brad in the
parking lot. Unless we get some press passes, we probably won't be able to get in the actual event
because parking will break us as it is. I was looking at mapping out my
places. I was going to go on my trip that I was talking about. Extra terrestrial highway and
go by the alien inn and all that stuff. Also, outside of Zion National Park, have you ever
heard of Cat Stare Canyon? No. It's this area right off the highway where they used cars to
fill in when the road was coming down before the days of Rebar, I guess. It's really interesting
because I ran across it on YouTube. It's pretty cool because there's a Lincoln Continental there
used. There's a bunch of Impalas and a bunch of really cool cars that are just stacked. Because
it's in the arid desert, they're all flat, but they're all very well preserved. Actually,
so many people have pulled off to look at it that the state put in two pull-offs, one just east of
it and one just west of it, so that if you want to get out, hike down, look at it, and take pictures
of it, you can. It's pretty cool, but it makes me remember, it reminds me of when I was in Nebraska
growing up. They used to use cars a lot in the Midwest for landfill and along creeks and things
like that. There was this one gas station that I used to go to and they had cut a hill away
to put the gas station in and you could see Model T's in the dirt. It was so wild and I think,
now, God, I wish I would have taken a picture of that because it was just so cool that they were
just stacked and they weren't crushed. They were just stacked and you'd see these silhouettes in
the dirt of Model T's, so cool the way you can find stuff like that. I wonder if there's anything
like that anymore. I don't know. Is there anybody out there in the Midwest that there's a creek near
them or anything like that that has cars stacked in it? I don't mean stolen cars from, I mean,
old cars. What were you going to say, Matt? I was going to say, I know you're supposed to drain all
the fluids before any of those things go out there, but after so many years, I'm sure there's a
little bit, it's all just soaking down to the bottom. Matt, let me tell you something. If you
lived in the Midwest, you probably already know this, but they used to take motor oil
and the states would go around and collect all the motor oil from the places like the
garages and stuff, and they would spray it on dirt roads to keep the dust down in the summertime.
That was a way of keeping dust down so it didn't get crazy and like that, and I mean,
you think of that. That was just like a normal, yeah, well, just, I got an idea. Let's collect
this free oil and we'll put it in these trucks and they can go around and spray oil on the dirt
roads and keep, and I remember seeing that when I first moved to the Midwest, I was like,
somebody told me that and I went, they spray oil and he goes, yeah, yeah, you know, keeps the dust
down so it didn't get all dusty and unlike, you know, water that evaporates and they got to do it
again, they'd come through and do it once a week or whatever and those farm roads and stuff like
that wouldn't be big dust barrels, you know? Yeah. Just things that we used to do. Yeah,
just to bury it. Yeah. Well, now, you know, someday they'll be going, you know what they
used to do with nuclear waste? They used to bury it. They used to throw it in the ocean. So,
yeah, that's, that's what will happen. Aliens, aliens are coming. You've seen all the disclosure.
Well, hopefully they're bringing some good technology for our cars, you know. We know how
to make that car put out 2000 horsepower, that LS motor. All right, I guess we're getting, we're
getting, we're getting punchy. I need to go take a nap. So, yeah. All right, yeah, let's wrap things
up. Thanks so much for listening and until next week, keep the air and the spare and the bag and
the wheel.
About this episode
Racing and road-trip talk kicks off with a rumored Ferrari electric SUV, the Luce—priced at “$640,000” and criticized for not being an “entry-level” Ferrari. The hosts then swap to Monterey Car Week costs, Quail’s restrictions, and what they’ve seen, including a McLaren F1. From there it’s Roush Museum highlights (including a 1995 Mustang Cobra’s 351-based build) and auction details about “dirty” Daytona bodies. The show ends with Dirty Fest BMX coverage and a roast of a Ram Tacoma-inspired AI T-shirt, plus Fuelfest date and venue.
