The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck made by Ford. It comes in many versions, and some are built to sound and feel more aggressive when you drive them. People bring it up a lot because it’s common and there are lots of different ways to configure it.
The exhaust is the system that routes engine gases out of the truck. People change it for sound and sometimes to help the engine breathe better, but it also has to fit safely under the vehicle.
Lockers help an off-road vehicle keep both wheels on the same axle working together. That way, if one wheel slips, the other wheel still gets power instead of spinning uselessly.
Pre-runners are off-road trucks built for desert racing. They’re set up to survive bumps, dust, and rough trails—often with upgrades like better traction and extra lights.
The Dodge Power Wagon is a tough off-road pickup. People like it because it’s built for hard use, and many owners add upgrades to make it even better for trails and rough terrain.
They’re saying some companies wait to make parts until they’ve received enough orders. That means you might have to wait longer for your specific parts.
It’s a storage shelf at the back of the vehicle that slides out so you can reach your stuff more easily. “Full slide out” usually means it comes out a lot, not just a little.
An idler pulley is a small wheel that the belt runs over to help guide it in the right path. It usually doesn’t “tighten” the belt—its job is mostly to keep the belt routed correctly.
If you hear a squeak near the front of the engine, it can be a pulley or bearing in the belt system. Figuring out when it squeaks—especially whether it changes when things are wet—helps you find the cause.
The serpentine belt is the main belt that powers several engine accessories. If it’s not routed right or not tight enough, you can hear squealing and the belt may wear faster.
The water pump moves coolant to keep the engine from overheating. If you hear squeaking near the belt area, it might be a pulley, but it’s worth ruling out the water pump too.
The alternator is an engine-driven electrical generator that charges the battery and powers vehicle electronics. Belt-drive noises can sometimes be mistaken for alternator issues, so it’s important to confirm the source before replacing parts.
Moab is a well-known off-road destination in Utah, and the hosts discuss a group trip there. The segment frames it as an experience with strong emotional impact, and the article/pictures are used to capture the drive and the scenery.
“37s” means tires that are about 37 inches tall. Off-road people run them because they help the vehicle clear obstacles and they make the truck look bigger.
Monterey Car Week is a big yearly car event in California. You can still enjoy it by walking around and seeing cars, even if you don’t buy tickets to everything.
“Monterey on the cheap” means you can still have fun at Monterey Car Week without paying for every ticketed event. It’s about finding affordable ways to see cars.
Amazon is a big tech company. In this part of the conversation, they’re mentioning it because of a major business update, not because of a specific car.
This means the truck doesn’t use big touchscreen menus for everything. Instead, it uses buttons/knobs, which some people prefer because it’s simpler and less complicated.
Hand crank windows are the old-school kind where you turn a handle to move the glass up and down. It’s simpler than power windows and doesn’t rely on electronics.
The hosts are saying some people don’t want cars that feel like computers. They’d rather have straightforward features that are easier to use and less likely to act up.
GM (General Motors) is a major automaker making decisions about where to spend money in electrification. Here, the hosts say GM is pulling out of the EV truck segment, which is a big signal because trucks are a huge part of GM’s sales.
The EV market is just the business of making and selling electric cars and trucks. If a big company like GM steps back, it usually means they think sales or costs aren’t working out the way they hoped.
Car
Hummer EV
The Hummer EV is the electric version of the Hummer brand. The discussion is basically: even if it’s a great truck, if people aren’t buying enough of them, the brand can get shut down.
The Hummer EV is an electric vehicle made by GMC that’s designed to be very powerful and capable off-road. People mention it because it’s not just an EV—it’s built to feel tough and exciting. If someone’s been in one, they may be talking about comfort and drive feel as well.
Diesel laws are government rules that control how diesel engines can be used, usually because of pollution and emissions. If the rules get stricter or make diesel harder to run, fewer people buy diesel trucks and cars.
Diesel prices are what you pay for diesel fuel. The hosts are basically saying diesel is getting more expensive compared to gas, which makes diesel vehicles less attractive.
The F-150 Lightning is a pickup truck that runs on electricity instead of gasoline. People talk about it because it’s meant to do the same kind of jobs as a regular truck, but with an electric motor. If someone says they like it, they usually mean how it drives and how they use it day to day.
“Vorhees law” is a joke about traffic. It says that if someone cuts past you like they’re late, they usually end up waiting at the same stoplight you’re approaching.
The hosts discuss the common behavior of speeding to “beat” a traffic light, then being proven wrong when the other driver ends up waiting too. It’s essentially about how small timing differences and traffic signals can erase the advantage of aggressive driving.
Lyft is another rideshare app, like Uber, where you request a car from your phone. The hosts are saying taxis are less common now because apps like Lyft are popular.
Lobbying is when companies try to influence government decisions. The hosts are implying that self-driving taxi companies may push for rules that reduce their legal risk.
The Jaguar F-Pace is a luxury SUV. The hosts bring it up as an example of a car they’ve seen in ride-hailing or related use, to discuss whether this kind of technology will work smoothly in everyday traffic.
Operating costs are the day-to-day expenses of running a service. The hosts are saying that if self-driving ride services can make those costs lower, they’ll be more likely to expand.
Car
Tesla robo taxis
“Robo taxis” are self-driving cars that you can summon like a rideshare. The hosts are saying Tesla’s self-driving taxi plans in Texas suggest this will become a real service soon.
Car
Ford Raptor
The Ford Raptor is a special, off-road-focused version of Ford’s trucks. Here, people are upset because the key fob no longer clearly shows “Raptor,” even on expensive trucks.
The Ford Bronco is an SUV designed for off-road driving. It’s meant to handle rough roads better than a typical car. People talk about it when they’re comparing different Ford vehicles and deciding which one fits their driving needs.
The Ford Ranger is a pickup truck that’s smaller than the biggest Ford trucks. It’s built for everyday driving but can still handle typical truck tasks like hauling and light towing. People bring it up when they’re talking about which truck size and style makes the most sense.
The hosts are talking about manufacturers saving money by changing small details. Even if it’s not a big mechanical change, it can still annoy people because it feels like they’re losing features they expected on an expensive truck.
The Ford F-150 Raptor is a rugged version of the F-150 built for off-road use. The hosts say newer models changed the climate control: instead of showing temperature on the knob, it shows it on the screen.
That’s the knob you turn to set the car’s heating or cooling temperature. In newer trucks, the temperature isn’t shown on the knob anymore—it’s shown on the screen instead.
A retrofit means you change or add parts after the fact to get a feature to work. Here, it sounds like people are swapping the newer/older key fob parts so everything still functions.
FORScan is a software tool that helps you communicate with your car’s computer. People use it to check things and sometimes adjust settings—here, to get a certain message to show up.
Branding is the car maker’s “identity” shown through things like names and logos. Even small display or key-fob changes can feel like the company is taking away something owners expected.
The Ford F-150 is a super common pickup truck. The hosts are basically saying that changing or removing certain branding can make the truck feel less unique, even if it saves money.
“Ruby Star” is the name of a specific Porsche paint color. The hosts are basically saying they like the color, and they’re making sure they use the correct name when looking it up.
A “price bracket” just means the price range that fits your budget. They’re saying the car they like is cool, but it’s probably too expensive for them right now.
A configurator is an online tool that lets you build a car virtually—choosing trims, colors, and options—to see pricing and what the final vehicle would look like. In this segment, they use it to learn what the car they saw actually was and how expensive it could be.
The Porsche 911 GT3 is a high-performance version of the 911 built for serious driving. The point they’re making is that even if you love it, it’s usually far more expensive than most people’s budget.
“Crashed rebuilt” means the car had an accident and was repaired afterward. It might be cheaper, but you have to be careful because the repairs may not be as good as a clean-history car.
A convertible is a car where the roof can be removed or folded down so you can drive with open air. They’re saying the car isn’t just a basic convertible.
They’re talking about a situation where you can’t get the car you want unless you buy something else first. That can feel unfair, especially if the car is already hard to get.
They’re saying that when a car brand makes you feel like you have to “prove yourself” to get the good cars, it can start to feel more like a status thing than a fun-car thing.
Formula 1 is a super high-tech racing series with teams that build their own race cars. The rules can change, and that can make the cars faster, slower, or less predictable—so drivers and fans react strongly.
They mean the race cars aren’t matching the intended performance level. If they’re much faster or slower than expected, it can affect how safe and exciting the racing feels.
Energy saving is when drivers intentionally use less power for a while to make it last longer. That can make their car slower than others, which changes how passing works.
An overtake is when one race car passes another. If one car is much faster than the other, it can be harder to pass safely and can increase the chance of crashes.
The Alpina B10 is a BMW-based car that’s been tuned by Alpina to feel more powerful and refined. It’s usually aimed at people who want a comfortable car that still drives like a performance vehicle. The mention of manuals suggests some versions are offered with a stick shift.
Sometimes racing rules get changed while the season is already underway. That can throw teams off because they’ve already built and tuned their cars for the earlier rules, and it can change who’s winning.
The segment links declining viewership to financial pressure on the sport, suggesting that audience numbers influence how quickly rule changes happen. In motorsport, ratings and commercial performance can affect sponsorship, media deals, and the willingness to adjust regulations.
This part sounds like a racing term, but the transcript is hard to read and it’s not clear exactly what they mean. If you share more surrounding lines, I can identify the exact term and explain it.
Hydrophobic means “water-repelling.” When something is hydrophobic, water tends to bead up and roll off instead of soaking in. That can make it easier to rinse off pollen and grime.
Power washing is cleaning with a high-pressure water spray. It’s used to blast off dirt and pollen that builds up on surfaces. They’re using it as an example of how much cleanup they’ve been dealing with.
An e-bike is a regular bike but with a motor that helps you pedal. It can make longer rides or hills much easier. The battery and motor specs determine how strong it feels and how long it lasts.
Surron is a company that makes electric off-road bikes. People compare them when they’re shopping for an electric “dirt bike” style ride. The main difference is usually how powerful the motor and battery are.
Term
amp flow
“Amp flow” sounds like a reference to an updated e-bike model or motor/battery configuration. The hosts connect it to a “new model” and are waiting to see it before buying. Because the exact product name is unclear, this is best treated as a tentative mention rather than a confirmed spec.
Company
pedalist
They’re saying they’re going to buy a specific electric bike brand/model called “Pedalist.” They’re interested in the bike’s power and battery, not just looks. The exact name might be worth double-checking because it’s not fully clear in the audio.
Watts measure how much power the motor can provide. “1500 watts” means the bike can be pretty strong, especially for hills or quick acceleration. How it feels in real life also depends on the battery and settings.
Amp-hours (Ah) describe how much energy is in the battery. A higher number usually means the battery can last longer. Your real range will still depend on hills, speed, and how much you use the motor.
Bike trails aren’t all governed the same way—some places allow bikes (including e-bikes), and some don’t. Rules can also change when you leave the trail and end up on a road.
They name Sedona as another area with great places to ride. It’s brought up as an example of where you can explore by bike.
Topic
Hell's Revenge on a bike trail (without a motor)
They mention “Hell’s Revenge” and compare the idea of doing it on a bike instead of in a motorized vehicle. The point is that the ride is still challenging, but biking changes what you can realistically do.
Electric assist means the bike has a motor that helps when you pedal. You still pedal, but it takes some of the work off your legs—especially on hills or long rides.
People sometimes argue about e-bikes because they can go faster or feel different than regular bikes. Some of the complaints are about safety and how much they affect the trails.
The BMW M2 is a small, sporty BMW made for performance driving. It’s designed to be fun and responsive, not just comfortable transportation. People often talk about it when they’re discussing driving skills or motorsport-style events.
Yoshimura is a company that makes performance upgrades for motorcycles. People often associate them with exhausts, but they also sell other bike parts. The host is saying the stuff is really nice, even if they didn’t strictly need it.
They’re talking about the pedals on a bike/dirt bike and how some pedals grip your shoes better. Better grip helps keep your foot from slipping when you’re turning or climbing, which can prevent scraped shins and other issues.
“Clip in” means your shoe locks onto the pedal with a cleat. The host is comparing that to regular pedals that don’t lock in, but instead grip your shoe with traction.
Fox is a major off-road riding gear brand, and the “Pro Frame RS” is a specific model of helmet mentioned by the host. This is relevant because helmet model/fit can affect comfort and safety, especially for off-road riders.
Term
removable face
That sounds like a helmet setup where the front shield/face piece can be removed. People do this to make riding more comfortable or to change how much coverage they have.
Knee guards are pads you wear to protect your knees if you fall. They’re especially helpful for off-road riding where you can hit rocks or the ground hard.
A chest protector is padding that helps protect your ribs and chest if you crash. “Soft armor” usually means it’s flexible and comfortable while still offering protection.
Front suspension is what helps the front wheel handle bumps. If you don’t have it working well, the bike can get bounced around and you can lose control on rough ground.
E-bike batteries wear out eventually. If the battery is easy to remove and replace, you can keep using the bike longer and it can be easier to sell later.
The Hyundai Santa Cruz is a small vehicle that mixes SUV comfort with some pickup-style usefulness. It’s meant to be easier to live with than a full-size truck, but still help with hauling small items. People bring it up when talking about what it costs and how it compares to other options.
Smart shocks are bike suspension parts that can automatically change how soft or firm the ride feels. They help the bike handle bumps better without you manually adjusting anything.
Fox is a company that makes high-end suspension parts. “Fox electronic” means the shocks can be controlled electronically to change how the bike rides.
Electronic shifting is when the bike changes gears with a small motor instead of cables. You still press a shifter, but the bike does the gear movement for you.
This is when the bike uses your body signals (like heart rate) to decide how much motor help to give. Instead of just choosing a mode, it reacts to how you’re feeling.
Topic
Tokl Trail ride planning
They’re talking about a nearby trail they can ride from their house. It’s more about where to ride than how the bike works.
Enduro bikes are made for trail riding that includes both climbing and downhill sections. They usually have suspension travel meant for rough, bumpy ground.
A derailleur is the bike part that moves the chain to different gears. When it’s working well, shifting feels smooth; if it’s not set up right (or the battery is dead on electronic setups), shifting can be unreliable.
Term
RockShox technology
RockShox makes the suspension parts on many mountain bikes, like the front fork and rear shock. Their “technology” usually means different ways the suspension is tuned to feel better over bumps.
Some mountain bike shocks can change how they work automatically using electronics. That can make the ride feel smoother over small bumps and more controlled over bigger hits.
A damper is what controls how a suspension compresses and rebounds after a bump. “Damper rates” are basically how firm or how quickly the shock reacts, and some modern shocks can adjust that automatically.
A dual sport bike can do both street riding and dirt riding. It’s a compromise category—good for trails but still legal and usable on roads.
Concept
towing you
“Towing you” here means someone can help pull you along if you get too tired. It’s basically an assist so you don’t have to struggle the whole way.
Concept
mountain bike gloves
Bike gloves help you hold the handlebars better and protect your hands if you fall. Different gloves are made for different types of riding, like faster downhill runs versus easier trails.
Downhill means riding fast downhill on steep, bumpy trails. It’s usually riskier than casual riding, so people wear more protection.
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Welcome to the avance podcast. I'm Dan. I'm Nick. You know, I had somebody asked me just over the weekend
Somebody said I was talking to action. It's talking to the guys. It's uh, it's down to all four by four
And we were talking about podcast stuff because you know, I listen to their show them. Yeah, and uh, I was there like you
Don't have any intro music or anything. I said nope never had
So you know the first thing I do when I listen to your show is like what I'm like fast forward through your intro
It's like I like you guys, but it's the same thing every week
It's like I don't want to listen to it. So I just jump so we just jump right into the topics also
You don't want to hear a sing. Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's like
Don't be wrong keep doing what you're doing
But we were just comparing notes. I was like, yeah, I just like it's one thing
It's one less thing for me to add in as I get jumped straight into the content
People don't jump through the show or so I'm told because in our in our play rate
You can look at see how long people listen and our completion rate is insanely high for a podcast
It's like 95% people almost always listen to the entire show. Yes. Thank you very much listeners
But it's one of those things where I've kind of
When we first started I've tried to make it a point to really stick to it from the very beginning
It's like I don't want any filler in the episode
We had the we had commercials for how you talked about it
Cuz remember remember when we got the board and there was all the extra sounds like that and we talked about doing a jingle
Like when we were back at one with with rain see supercars at drivers club. Yeah, it's easier than ever
You just hit a button forget. I was like, I don't want to edit it. I don't want people to have to fast forward through something
I really want to just jump into the show and just like we're just gonna start. Let's just do this. I
Mean on the other side of that argument
It would be fun to have like a 15-minute jingle like that just that just takes shots at us, you know
Yeah, I'm fine with that. They both got ADHD
Welcome to the podcast
Yeah, speaking of how was your weekend?
Oh
Yeah, you were just had a big trip in the we did we did we did we did we did the annual company trip down to
Canaan Beach, which was amazing and I want you to know
Kate made a huge thing out of this and we did there was a huge puffin festival. Oh cool
So I learned I learned a ton about puffins. Oh by a guy dressed as a puffin standing in front of haystack rock
Very knowledgeable man. He probably has multiple degrees, but I did not know anything about puffins
I didn't know how special they were to Canaan Beach and it's one of those things like I've gone to Canaan Beach my whole life
Yeah, and the once you realize how much that town is invested in puffins and elk
There's stuff everywhere
But I learned so much about I mean and it was I was laughing because I was thinking
I don't remember if they would they talked about puffins in that the movie we were talking about last week
Yeah, but the toughen puffins, which are the only ones you will find in Canaan Beach
Spend nine months the year 200 miles off the coast just floating and eating things like that and I was laughing because
You know you sit I would I'm not very good at listening. I mean with I have a lot of questions, but I had
Enhanced my brain for walking on the on the beach. We'll say
And I was in a listening mood and this one lady was like well
Well those birds can't sit out there because the sharks will get them and this guy in a tough puffin mask
I loved him great. He was great like total like puffin hippies as he described himself. He goes ma'am sharks can't fly
That's a good answer. That's a real good answer. So it was great and actually
Sunday night
We drove the van down Kate and I did and my parents drove their new Audi down and we switched on Sunday and they drove up
To the hot springs up on the north north
Washington State Peninsula. Oh, yeah, yeah, co
Sold up hot springs sold up and spent the night there. So they there was their first night solo in the van
So it and then it came back and they went back down to have the rest of the well
Not the rest most of the other stuff installed that I need to do on it
Which makes me think now that this van is starting to wrap up and we can use it. I need a new project
Yeah, I need a new project and I don't know what that's gonna be. I don't know if it's more raptor stuff
You know, I was talking about the exhaust. I was like, do I need do I need more lights? I have lockers
Yeah, you have like you have lockers. You can get all the lights hanging out with those raptor guys a couple weeks ago with Brian
Was very dangerous that's those all those trucks respect like ready for to go to Baja and be pre-runners
And I was like, I really want some type of I love my chase lights, but I really want something that moves
I don't I don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't you know, I got a few dollars back from the United States government
Thank you for that. And so I'm like, well, why would you save it or put it into investments? You just right, right?
So that's where I'm markets volatile
I'm doing okay in the market, you know growing up with a father who's a certified financial planner
I've always done somewhat decent markets. All right. Yeah, let's do this do this. Don't do this. Okay. Okay. Thank you
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I figured you would just drive down there like and throw cake at the peasants from your storyteller
Well, that's you know, I was on top and you know, it's it's more
We're a budget so it was cupcakes. You know, you don't you want to throw this and just some some
Cupcakes and things. Yeah, you know, it's no I will say this I've spent
It was so funny. I got into a conversation with a guy who's an ex-marine. He's from Boise and he was driving a
Blue and this is a key part of the story a bright blue dodge power wagon
With a license plate a marine license plate that said p Smurf which meant Papa Smurf
Yeah
And if you're a child of the 80s, you understand that so we got into a whose conversation because I was looking at his rig
Which was very well specced out. I mean and had a few hidden compartments for other things
Yeah, it was really cool. And we were he was we were talking about the van and
Uh, we were just you know, how was it? It was a it was fun to connect with somebody, you know
Outside of this area. I mean, I love everybody here, but it's you know
It's always neat to kind of and he was he had never seen the storyteller
He's seen him, but he had never like been in one and we were talking about one and I mean his rig was more qualified to go
He let me just put it this way
He's he's done enough in that power ram that I'm pretty sure he could disappear for about a month and
No one would know he was and he's in a bright blue rig
Nice. So yeah, love that. Yeah, there's a lot of storytellers around here now that I've seen yours
I'm noticing them more and so I'm like looking at the specific builds. There's a lot of them here
Yeah, I mean a lot of people it makes sense
It's like, you know, you don't you check one box and it shows up and you've got
I mean a lot of the stuff I'm doing to it is just stuff that will kind of be beneficial to me
Like my parents don't need a winch, but right. I mean I I will
So
Looking I'm looking forward to getting it back and getting everything done
Like I said, we're having some issues with some not the the storyteller
But some some supply suppliers of some parts and things like that right? Yeah, because a lot
I figured I figured out minus inhabit who I love those guys by the way
I will continue to say that
A lot of these guys they don't they take your order, but then they wait for everybody
They want to see if they get enough of those orders before they go put things in production which drives me nuts
Yeah, and I get it. It's a business model
But tell me that because we're running into two things now where people have come back and gone
Yeah, well, we're not going to make them now and I'm like, okay. Well
And one of them is that is a is a full slide out shelf in the rear which I want to have
Oh, yeah, that's nice to have so that they can you know, they're not having to dig things out. So yeah, yeah
Yeah, um
We should use a quick harder automotive group tip of the week and then we can get started
um super simple one, but it's a
If you're working on an old car, you should know the difference
What's the difference between an idler puller idler pulley and a tensioner pulley?
Um
Oh, that's a good question
Yeah, it's just this is important if you are talking to the parts counter or you're looking to diagnose a squeak for a bad bearing under there
um
It's a so basically the idler pulley is just what helps route the belt
It's static in place
And it's got one bolt through it and I'm bearing and it just spins and that's how it helps route helps route the serpentine belt
But it's not putting any pressure on right the tensioner pulley the tensioner pulley is literally adding tension to the pulley
It's as simple as that, but don't enter
They're not interchangeable terms and people will often say that and in the a lot of cars will have both
You'll have a tensioner pulley and an idler pulley the tensioner pulley is literally what tensions the belt
Um, sometimes I mean you can move your alternator
Things like that to add tension to the belt, but a tensioner pulley keeps constant tension on the belt itself
So it doesn't slip off
So know the difference if you go in and you actually need parts for your engine or your hero
So you're diagnosing a squeak of that wine that gets in there and not when it's just when it's wet
It could just be an idler pulley or a tensioner pulley
Uh idler pulley a lot easier to replace tensioner pulley easier to replace
But hopefully it's just one of those things it's making that noise because it's you you don't want it to be your alternator your water pump or something like that
So yeah, yeah, but that's all I just wanted to make sure you put that out there
And a big shout out to our friends at Carter Subaru who've been sticking with us for so long
Thanks, Wade. I need to I need to reach out to them. We're we're getting closer. You're talking about this
I we we keep talking about it and you know just life and kate's gonna do lasik
Beginning of may so we're just we're just trying to get through a lot of the big stuff, but
We need to talk about this
Oh, yeah, this has been something if uh, if you are an advance member. I know you advance advanced out of advance member
Uh, you received this this the new magazine issue 23 issue 23
Which we have particularly been really happy or excited about because there is a huge article about our
trip to moab with all of our friends and
All of the photos that were done in the article were done by brian elech who's a very good friend of ours
He's been on the show many a times
Everything and so a huge congratulations to him. Carl helped put the article together
You know, it was we just sort of went as as a group and we came back Carl said
What do you say we document this and it really turned out amazing?
And I wanted to thank not only avance and Carl and and congratulate brian, but
I'm not using good at keeping secrets this long and
Not that it's a life-changing secret, but I'm really proud of what what came out of it
Yeah, no, we've talked about it a lot
But I think the pictures that he got really helped do it justice
Yeah, you really can't it's hard to do moab justice
We've said that a million times, but it's like, you know, it's great pictures of all of us in here garb and the rigs not us
Um, it's focused on the drive, uh, but there's a lot of stuff in that the article's about
You know just going to moab you'll it'll change you it'll change your life
Well, I was what at my point was you kind of said my point like we've talked about it and people like what's so great about it
Go read the article look at the photos. You'll understand why we want to spend so much time there
Yeah, it's hard to I'm still missing it every day. So I'm yeah, I need to be there
Yeah, we were talking about going out of town this weekend for a night just to get away or something and
I was like, I don't care where we go. I just need a break to go do something
I'm getting stir crazy and I was like if you told me we're going to moab on friday. I'd be in she goes. I know you would
That's a long drive. Yeah, 16 hours there and back screw it. Let's go. It's it's funny
I was looking at this photo of it's a it's got garb of truck brian's truck your truck and the bronco
And I was like I was telling Sean I was like, man the wheel gap on the bronco is so much
Larger because it's slightly it's uh, you're doing the springs. Yeah, your truck slightly lifted too
But it's like with the 37s you can really tell how much bigger that truck is sitting on thelma and louis point
Yeah, the actual thelma louis point. Yeah. Anyway, I check it out. It's another great article
All the articles are great. Yeah
I love the issue, but we've been waiting for this for a long time and carl's been
You know the well, he's obviously the author, but uh, it's been a lot of fun
Yeah, and there's uh, there's a really good story here for a story of richard james car week for all
Monterey on the cheap and I love the cover photo of that
Yeah, it's a conic sag of a gaudy and i'm a clarin p1
On highway 101. Yeah, south of uh, yeah
Yeah, so I mean it talks about like all the stuff you can do on the cheap and like
We've said that a million times go to monterey car week. You don't have to do anything special to
Staying there is difficult because of the prices around but you don't stay you can just like walk around downtown
And have a mind-blowing car week. Yeah, even if you did none of the events it would be well worth your time
And it's well worth planning for yeah
so a couple of little things, uh, amazon, uh, jepeso's ceo, uh, just backed another
650 million into slate
Uh with their ev truck with a it's going to have hand crank windows and zero touch screens
And the basis of this is 160,000 people have already put down down deposits for these trucks
Buyers want cheap and simple not loaded with software. Yep. And so I think this is really showing what the market is doing
Um, you were mentioning along the lines of trucks about gm
Yeah, gm has decided to pull out of the ev market entirely for trucks not for cars for trucks, uh
Which given the sales of trucks. I'm not too surprised. I I'm pretty sure that means hummer is dead again
Uh, which
Felt like a huge mistake from the beginning. Uh, don't be wrong the hummer if you've driven a hummer ev or you've been in one
They're actually super nice inside. They drive really nice. I thought they sold off hummer to an indian company
I I thought but I thought they were just sold through gm brands
I think they're sold through gm brands, but I wonder if that means they're dead
Because I think it's not like they've been selling a lot of them true to say the least and
I don't know if you live here
There are a lot of them. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, but they're not anywhere else. Yeah, unfortunately
Uh
I would love to see them make a comeback with the diesel. Yeah again
I'm really really hoping some common sense diesel laws come through because they need it now more than ever
Diesel prices are rising rows faster than gas prices and will stay high. It's very rare for them to come down
Uh, or to come they will not come down as fast. I meant to say they will come down
But it's it's rare that really doesn't make me sense that diesel is more expensive. It's less refined. It should be a cheaper fuel
It's just kind of saying what I was thinking. It makes no sense. Yeah, so it kind of pisses me off
but
I hope it comes back because I would still I still want a diesel. Yeah, um
Oh, yeah, sad to see that go. I was hoping
Something good would come of that in the ev market for trucks because the there's plenty of great ev cars out there
But there really haven't been good ev trucks outside of rivian
Um, yeah, like rivian makes the only one and it's the right size
The rest of them just have kind of
Baited away if they if you've got one and you love it. I'd love to hear more about it
We've been asked we've asked us a couple times before and I really want the oddest statement
If you have an f-150 lightning or a seara ev and you like it
Tell me why because look everything I've heard is pretty negative overall
Yeah, and I always like the idea of the f-150 because of the short commute with it
But you can't tell with it
So, yeah
I want to talk about the vorhees law. Oh, this is a good one
So you're in your car mine mine in the law keep into the speed limit when somebody scurries past you as if you're running late for work
Or they're running for week for work
And then a minute or so later at the very the very same car is now waiting at the stop light watching you emerge from the distance
And the rivian here. This is a thing. This is a real thing that they've talked about austrian scientists
It's it's it's kind of a like a law of odds in the fact that like if you see somebody going blessing by you and traveling
There's a good chance
They're not going to make the light that you are going to make the light because you're driving
Yeah, it's not time for happens to all of us. We've been on both sides of that argument
Um lights time for 35 or also time for 70. Yep
That's weird, huh?
That's just so we have a significantly speeding. I just found it funny a gelachnik did a really interesting article on it
It's it's a fun little read, uh, you know as most things are uh on their on their site, but uh, yeah
Um, also, I wanted to talk about uber, uh, who's just what go ahead
Oh, I was just gonna say the one thing so I wanted before we move on the vor he's lies. It's funny. It's absolutely true
I remember having this conversation in high school. So back in high school
I used to skip class and go for drives. What I know I was a terrible student in high school
Great college student. I was a terrible high school student and he was a raptor now guys 100% because of my own
My own and as much cake as he can eat. Oh, that's right. So yeah, yeah
Yeah, so I would skip school and I would go for drives and I would go for pretty long drives because gas was cheap and I had a
I had fun cars even then or I made them fun anyway, but
I got in an argument. It wasn't an argument. It was a debate really with a good teacher of mine about
How we were how they were saying
If you like speeding around doesn't really get you that much farther ahead you will typically end up
You know, maybe they were making the argument cost that like the ticket wasn't worth the time
So if you were speeding around too much, they're like the you know
The ends don't justify the means because you your risk goes way up through the window
Your car your chances of a ticket goes way up and all that
I said and and he was the biggest argument they were trying to make or the point
They were trying to make which I disagreed with is like you're not going really going to save any time
I said hold on
So if you said yes, that's true if you're going from one into town to the other
But if I'm going from here to Idaho
It's like and I average 10 to 15 over the speed limit. I can save 15 to 30 minutes
Now at the time gas was cheap enough to that really wasn't an argument
You really didn't have gps is where you could go. I can beat that time
Exactly. And so all you had was well, this was early days. So map quest was a thing
It had just started tom-toms. Yeah, you had you had early gps
But you also had map quest that would tell you, you know
You had to print it out you had to print it out your directions
But it would take you, you know this much time
So it was always a game to me like okay
I'm gonna clock in and see if I'm gonna do it
Yeah, and I was
And I would always try and beat this with empirical data because I'd be like no
If I speed this entire time from Arlington to Darrington, which at the time was 5 30 and there was like
One cop if that during that time. It's like I can probably save five ten minutes. So but over time
And so that was
It's sort of a joke that we and you've done a long enough road trip. You see the same semis
Those are the ones you recognize the most because they're hauling a specific load or whatever
They're not stopping
If you find them on a major trucking route, those guys can go a thousand miles, right?
And so my goal is always to with stops and fuel to always beat the semi. Yeah
Which makes sense, right?
Many times I've been in a rest stop with Kate and I'm like, we need to go. Why right?
Well, because I just saw the guy with the green tractor go by and we passed him by, you know, yes
Yeah, so and I also would love to know the confusion when he sees my car passing him like four times. Yeah
Yeah, pretty much. Yes. Anyway, just my little side tangent
I was it was always a fun argument back then to see which was worth it. Obviously the ticket's not worth it
Obviously the time might be though. So I think the time's worth it. I think it's fun
Okay in today's day and age taxis are kind of out uber's lifts things like that. That's the new thing
Except for laws where you can't have them. But yeah, it's pretty much uber's and lifts. That's it
Uber has just committed to 10 billion dollars to owning robo taxis
After decades of swearing off of it, they're putting about three billion of it two and a half billion
Into equity stakes and seven point five billion into actual vehicles
basically
From a financial standpoint, you don't have to pay robo taxis health insurance
You don't have to pay all this unemployment things like that
I think that somebody finally went in the meeting and said, you know, as much as the people are going to lose jobs for this
And they are oh, yeah, fortunately
It makes financial sense. Oh, yeah, they're just going to reinvest that money into lobbying
So they don't get sued into oblivion when they hit pedestrians
That's just going to happen
That was where I was going to go with my next thing is the fact that I don't know if the technology is there
We look at obviously those all those jaguar f-paces in in arizona, which we've done pretty well
Wait a way most of they've done here. I know we have them here now except for the fact that every time I see the one
There's somebody driving it. So I yeah, but
And nobody I don't think there's been a giant traffic jam where they drove into a crime scene up here yet
Or if they've gotten in a huge roadblock, but
It'll be interesting to see how this kind of plays out
because
Again, there's a lot of people that's their extra income and I mean if uber does it
You know lift is eventually going to do it. Oh, yeah, they're gonna have to yeah
The operating costs once they get those down like I said, and you've got the Tesla robo taxis coming in in texas
So this is coming. Yeah
Yeah
I guarantee you like I said all that money is just going to go into lobbying to protect themselves and they're going to win
Yeah, you know politicians can be bought what?
You know, I don't know what you're talking about. Right. Yeah, so
Yeah, I get used to it. I guess well, I mean the uber has over the last few years signed deals with dozens of autonomous vehicle companies
So they're testing this and which were interesting
I want to ask you
When you this is a very minor thing, but it is it's been an uproar in the ford community
When you buy a high-end ford raptor bronco raptor ranger raptor, I shouldn't say high end with that
There's not much cake in a ranger raptor, right?
One of the reasons people buy it and and you can tell me I'm wrong or not
Is the fact that when you set your key down on the on the on the dash or when you set your key down
It says raptor so people know you have a raptor
Ford has decided recently even if you go out and buy a hundred and fifty thousand dollar raptor are
That your key will just say ford. So the people at the at the coffee joint joint will not know that you drive a raptor
And yes, this is petty and yes, this is stupid. Yeah, but it's a thing. No, I yeah, I noticed
So my 25 has a ford key. Yeah, doesn't say raptor on it
So this and we were talking about these companies cutting cutting vehicles cutting things
This is a weird place to cut cost because it's plastic
I mean it costs sense at sense and and truthfully you can go out and you can buy a different one and put it in your
Key, but it is causing quite a uh, people. Yeah online, you know
Spurped. Yeah, there's other little things that people have noticed as well. So
Let's talk about model changes. So the f-150 raptor
And the f-150 for 24 and newer
They removed the if you look at the the temperature control
I don't know about on your truck, but on
My my gen 2 raptor if you turn the temperature you could see the temperature in the the gate the dial itself the
And now it just it doesn't it's blank and it shows on the screen. Yeah, that's what mine does
And it's a smaller knob. Yeah, so on on ours though
It was it was in both before you saw it and there and they got rid of that
So people were annoyed by that and then yeah the key fob
I forget the other one
There was another thing too. They removed
People are annoyed by but these nickel and dime changes people notice and some people have gone as far back
Is just a retrofit it because you can pull the entire
Like
Had even out and put in a different one one of the older ones and it works just fine
It plugs right in and it works
So we talked about forescan and the fact that if you want to fire up your your forward escape and have it say raptor on
You can do it. It's built. It's already there. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, but I the that's such a it is a little thing, but it's an annoying thing
Like you said, I bet you know, can you imagine if a 4g t owner gets one? It doesn't say, you know, they
It just has the same key though. Yeah, it's a really lame thing, but it's it's
Well, this harkens back to like when people bought the initial verons and cheeran's and the speed key was just a volts wagon key
Yeah, yeah, and it still is I think actually in some of them, but I don't it again. This is a very
Niche thing and I understand how stupid is I just was reading the comments and like there are some very passionate people and then
And I'm I'm up the side that yes, I wanted to say raptor, but also if it didn't
I'm going to go buy on ebay or on on amazon the three cent part or whatever it is and I'll make it say that
Yeah, I find it annoying. It's one of those little things that they I don't think they should cut back on that
especially because it's a branding thing. Yeah, like the
The dash thing with the heater controls. I don't actually care much about I mean, none of it. I care that much about it
But it did annoy me on my 25. It's not a big deal. Like you said, it's just a key fob
It's just a key fob
I have also conversations with people because I've seen it. Yeah, but I'll be like you got a raptor. Yeah
Exactly. And so I'm like, why would you reduce the branding that makes the car special?
The other parts I could see move away from but
you know, this is always some
Somebody that was made fun of a lot in high school is now an accountant works for a company. I don't know screw those guys
It's like that's the nerd you punched in high school getting yeah
The problem is as my mother always told me be nice to the nerds because they'll run the world someday and she was right
Yeah, but I know they're ruining your truck. Yeah, that would ruin the truck
Yeah, I don't know. It was just something that was you know
It's stupid though. It's it's branding. Like you said, it's a conversation starter. It shows that it's a little bit different
It's not it's such a cheap thing to do. Yeah, like why do that?
I don't know. So they saved a hundred bucks for you know, they sell more f-150 than anything anything else
But still put the raptor up. I agree. Come on Ford
So a lot of the topics that I talk about on here as funny as it is
My wife who's not an automotive person sends me these topics. She gets these these emails like that
And a couple of days ago. Um, I realized that my love of automobiles and things like that is really seeping into her
Oh, yeah, because she sent me a picture of uh
I think it was a newer gt3 and ruby star red and she's like, I really like this color
And I was like, well, you better because if we ever bought a car like that, that's a 15 to 24 thousand dollar option. She's like, oh
Yeah, but it was just interesting which caused me to then, you know, go online and like any configurator and
Discover that new Porsche 911 gt3. It's the cc. Oh my god. It's pretty
In ruby star. Oh, yeah, by the way, I she corrected me. I've been calling it ruby stone ruby stone red
Oh, it's ruby star. Yeah, it's ruby star. Yeah. Yeah, who knew I really liked that car
Again way out of my price bracket will probably I mean someday but uh used uh crashed rebuilt
But I like the idea that like taking all that all that really fun fast stuff from the gt3 and putting it in there and cutting the
roof off and
Making it a friend of a fun car. Yeah making it a fun car. Well, it's not just a convertible either
It's the speedster style with the speed humps on the yeah, it's a really gorgeous car. Oh, I love it. I love it. I love it
Yeah, yeah, I'm not
I'm
Anytime the company has to move to the buy this before you buy that games. I just the brand ties to me
So I've set up a million times. I don't think that one's restricted though. It's a gt
But I'm saying it's I think you can if you go in with enough money
I don't think you have to buy a bunch of cars before buying that
From what I've been from what I have seen on my little bit of research
Most people have said that you can go in
And with enough money you could buy it, but you didn't have to be a previous owner. Maybe I'm wrong
Oh, yeah, that would that would be I would love anybody who's in who's been in the portrait game and and and as an owner
Let me know. Yeah, I mean, it's just the rs's. I don't know. I know it's the rs's
And that's even kind of dropping off to the point where I think you can start to get those
Well, yeah, because they're making too many of them
Yeah, but uh, yeah, I mean like I said, any time a company does that I they kind of die to me as far as my interest
Because I'm like, nah, I'm not that once you get in the uh
And put it this way
Once you buy into a brand once a brand requires you to buy in so you can have something
It starts to turn into a status symbol which immediately turns it off to me no matter how good it is
A drive cars for me. Do you think the keys will say gt3 though? Probably. Okay good. Okay now that you say that
I
Like forces live up to the height. I know they do have really nice keys. I agree even have a sample
Yeah, paint the sample keys. So like I said, the forces live up to all the hype. They're amazing
I just I'm like, yeah, I'll go find something else
Yeah, and I'm gonna speak on this because I and I don't have all the things that but as of today after three races
And this year's f1 series
The board of directors has gone back and it's changing a bunch of stuff
Oh people are pissed off about that people are so pissed off about well
They're pissed off about the fact that the cars are too fast or too slow
Uh, the fact that some of these cars if you're saving your energy
Can it be close to 50 kilometers faster than the other cars for overtakes which could cause worse accidents
Um, give me b10s. Give them manuals and shut up. There's that if I sucks guy. That's the photographer for everyone kim kimmy
He's the ball guy. Yeah. Yeah, I knew I love who I love him. He just did a video on it on his facebook page as instagram
Yeah, it explains it. It's even hard for me to understand like I was trying to write stuff down
I was like, okay, so then this has changed and this is but
First this all the change in the middle of the season and the drivers have been very vocal about these cars being not good
Um, and obviously you're seeing that because you're seeing your head
Yes, we're seeing people win that you usually didn't win but
Viewership is down big time, uh, like 50 percent down in some in some of these markets. So yeah
And that's a that and when money goes away, that's when things start changing. Yep
I I I haven't kept up over the years. I love f1
But I stopped watching a few years ago. Just probably three or four years ago now. I'll watch the highlights
Yeah, that's what I've done now. Now. I'm just kind of like, eh. I'm just kind of over it. It's like I said
Let me put out the 15 minute highlights. I'll watch that because that's you know, that's the fun stuff
Um, I love the tech that goes into it. I I you know, I was a restappin drive. I was I was I was a
Hamilton fan of restappin leclerc. I'm kind of all over the place. Um, I love I I think I was team-wise
I'm more mclaren right now than anything, but yeah
team jacob
I I was having conversations with somebody at drivers club one time we were talking about f1
He's like, I feel like we're talking about twilight. I was like, I could see that like this is the boy version of twilight like
Are you team jacob or team whatever wolf or whatever? I don't know. I want to pretend like I know too much
Yeah, oh, that's funny. I tell you
Um, I we were talking about last week all this pollen, but like
Having that s-tech on the front of the the raptor has been great about getting that. Yes
I was gonna say the same thing kind of the hydrophobics of that taking that stuff off because
I am just tired of this
Yeah, it sucks. Yeah the rain today. Uh, so it finally rained in my whole
driveway, which I power washed on that long guy had a power wash my driveway a couple times a year and
There's so much pollen stuck to everything on the sides and I was so
So glad to have my truck not covered in pollen for once
It was but you were dead on with the s-tech the front of my truck where I have full s-tech looks amazing
That was just like sprayed off with a hose and I'm done the back of it. It's like in every crevice
It's driving me nuts. It's starting to cover up my moab dirt and I'm not appreciative of that. That's right
Time to go get more. Yeah. Yeah time to go get more. That's a good point time to go get more
Yep, I'm buying a new toy for
For moab and beyond. Yeah, what are you buying? I'm buying an e-bike
Oh
And not a surron something like that. I'm actually buying a pedalist. I'm gonna buy but I haven't bought I have
I'm waiting to see the new amp flow. Um, I thought you bought one
I've just I've just put my name on one. Oh, okay
Yeah, I mean I put oh because you were talking about because there was last year's model. There's a new model. I got the new model
um
It's an interesting topic for transportation because the new motors on those things go up to 1500 watts 800 amp hour battery
Yeah, DJ. I got the m2s. Um, I don't need that for the listeners who are big bicycle people
I don't need that at all. Uh, it's just what's out there now. It's everywhere. And if I'm buying a bike, I might as well go with it
Uh, I'm an amateur rider on a bicycle and when I say amateur, this is the funny part
So I've been riding motorcycles my entire life
They're ever since I learned to ride motorcycles way before I learned to ride bicycles. I've had
Two bicycles in my entire life
And I've ridden maybe a combined total of 100 miles on a bicycle
So I guess I'll I'll ask the questions the listeners are screaming now. Why now? Why all of a sudden do you want to buy a bicycle?
I mean not that you don't have everything else, but right
It goes it's the same reason I buy anything it's to open up new opportunities to explore
And that's why I went with an e-bike versus I'm not the downhill stuff is really cool
But I'm also 46 years old and I would die. I'm fragile
Compared to how it used to be you have glasses. Yeah. I have glasses now. Yeah
It's really I just want to explore more opportunities that are only open to bicycles
I have no desire to be the crazy fast guy on the trail or do enduros
I really just want the ability to go to places. I can't go on other means of transportation
There's so many places around the u.s. That are completely closed to anything but bicycles
Right now. We're in a sweet spot where
E-bikes are still allowed everywhere
Most places
Um, I would say like 90 percent of bike trails are open till you get off on a road somewhere
And some guy on a pedal bike doesn't think you should be there and decides to block the trail
Yeah, I'll have a helmet on I will beat you. Yeah, I'm just putting it out there right now
I am not that guy. Like you just coming to scream at me. I'm just gonna punch you with my helmet
I don't care enough. Yeah, um and especially people on bicycles
Yeah, yeah, as someone on a bicycle who's buying a bicycle people on bicycles on the road are be like
You all know that's it rant over. Anyway, I want to go explore more places. There's places around moab
I haven't seen there's places around Utah that are incredibly accessible by bicycle like the amount of bike trails
That you I always say Utah is heaven for car people
Off-road street, whatever it is the best place in the entire u.s. To go but on bicycles
It's even bigger like they have bike trails that go for hundreds and thousands of miles across moab. Who was down there doing that?
That we knew Michael Todd and his friends go down. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and there's Sedona
There's places like that and just think about I know this look a thing hell's revenge, but on the bike trail
Yeah, exactly, but not having the motor like not having the the right. I'm not kidding myself at 46 years old
I'm not gonna go turn and do it, you know, and no, but you could do that on a pedal bike
Exactly with electric assist. It'll be beautiful. Yeah, I really just going sightseeing. That's it. I don't have any desire to be
I know the stigma around
You'll probably be healthier too
It says give me back out there
I know the signal around electric motors on bicycles and I understand the hate like a lot of it's justified
I've been out there. I have a lot of friends most of them are the young kids that are riding on the sidewalk too fast
Oh, even those aren't bicycles
There's more wear and turn on the trails and we're in this spot where
That's really too much power like even talking to the pros like Benji's
By the way, shout out to our our friend and previous sponsor m2 fitness Benji
He has he won the enduro class for his age group for watching like one literally he is
That guy puts in the work. He's been a bicyclist his whole life triathlon the whole nine
But I was talking to him about it and he's got both and he's kind of the same thing. He's
You know pedal only for certain things
But there's a huge draw for e-bikes just for exploring and that's really all I want
I just want to go places that I can't normally go
I had looked at it when I had my yt my downhill bike like I had initially looked at getting
A pedal assist because it just helps you get up the up the mountain because yeah, that's it my joy in riding mountain bikes
And I again I started looking at it again even after buying the big but the new ktm
My joy was always downhill. I was that was where I was the best at it and I loved it and and I was
Good at it and I put that in air quotes
But climbing up was never my strong suit like I mean I had big powerful legs
But it just sucked because by the time I got up there. I was so tired
I couldn't get my body to do what I wanted to do when I'm going downhill
So yeah, I looked at that. Um, and this is it's intriguing to me. So
I know this a little off track, but
You go to a bike store these days
Or is it all online?
Uh, pretty much everything's online. Although I want to support local
I want the support of a local bike shop
I mean because I think small shops are worth it. Yeah. Um, so I worked out I talked to
gh why go huck yourself
I love those guys
Down in renton go huck yourself with in renton aj down there
So I talked to you based on benji's recommendation and I just said here's what I want. He said no problem
It's like, you know, benji. So, you know, they know him well
So they just put me on first on the list to get one nice and so now I'm just waiting for it to come in and hopefully
I'll pick it up and then
Uh, I order some I I did order one bling thing for it for no apparent reason
Yes, yeah, really tight outfit. Absolutely spandex head to toe. No, uh sock stuff. Yeah, that's right
It's not it's not to look for the bulge is to protect the bulge. Yeah, I got some bling. I got some, uh, yoshimura pedals
Oh, that's right. I forget I always forget that with with yoshimura
I'm thinking exhaust, but they do a ton of stuff in bikes. Yeah
They have really nice stuff for motorcycles and bikes and it's the same people
So top quality stuff way overkill for what I needed
But I was like, I'm just gonna get these in because I I just wanted them. That's the one thing
I mean that it doesn't need anything for me as an amateur
It I will tell you that I have gone through so many sets of pedals
I actually have a lot of knowledge with that and having a good set of puddles that locks your feet in and I'm not talking
Ones that you clip in no just really having really good that I have the the the spikes in the right place and lock it in
Because when you're pushing around a corner or you're or you're pushing down to try to come up a hill
It we've all been a kid
Your your foot's come off the pedal and you just scraped your shin which is worse on these
But it doesn't happen as much on these because they grip your foot just like a good a peg on a motorcycle exactly
So yeah, that's the only real bling thing I bought the rest. I've got I mean I've got a good helmet too
I'm I'm I'm a huge advocate for
Get the best helmet you can buy because your brain is in it and so I got
Uh
That at a fox pro frame rs
Um, if you go full face or just full face. Yeah, I have no I've been wearing full face
Is my whole life and so I don't mind them a lot of people on bikes
So if they think that can be kind of polarizing but I'm like no I'm in the woods
If I'm in and it's an e-bike, you know, if I crash at 20 miles an hour on dirt bikes
That has been more than enough to remind me that I love having a full face off road
so well
I mean I've always bought the helmet that fit my head because I don't have a choice
But um, I remember when Nero Jiro came out with they had one and I had one of the first ones
When I was a younger and was
Semi racing or whatever and spoke in uh that was they had a removable face
Which was nice because when you were going up you didn't have that face thing just
Blasting you but it's I I think it's really beneficial because
Again, you get going. You're happy. You're having fun. You don't realize how quickly, you know
The the terrain can slip out. You understand that on motorcycle. Oh, yeah, you know, it's
It's smart to have save your teeth save your beauty, you know, we're not gonna have it for long
No, yeah on my knee guards and shin guards and then I have those already
And then I'll probably get some kind of soft armor chest protector
Um, just some upper body armor just because I'm new and I don't want to break a collar bone right away
So, um, like I said, I'm exploring. I'm not going out there to just
You know, I'm not going out there just to go as hard as I can. I've
I think people say oh you say that now. I was like, no, I've been riding stuff a long time
And I love going fast on certain things, but that's not really what I'm here for that part of my brain
That goes you should slow down. I listen to a lot more now. Yeah a lot more. Yeah, I mean, I used to push into
I pushed him to the back like you don't know what you're talking about, right? Exactly, you know, yeah
It's like it's like going to Moab with a monkey without front suspension. Like it's like you just gotta listen
I would hope nobody would be that stupid. Yeah, but who knows. You could definitely hit a rock crash bend over
But you know, I mean not hit a rock. You just couldn't make it up a rock. Yeah. This is hypothetical hypothetical hypothetical. Yeah
Speaking of you should check out that article. Yeah, check out the article. Check out of mawns issue 23. You should definitely check that out
Yeah
Um, what am I gonna say? I forgot no
Well, I mean congratulations on the new bike. I think that'll be a wonderful like I look forward to seeing it and
and
Figure out your next adventure on that because I think it's
There is something really peaceful of being out on a single track trail on a bike and even hearing the we're a little bit of a
War of a motor
It really connects you with nature
Yep, so if anybody's for all you mountain bike people out there that are already mad at me for buying an e-bike
And I know a lot of you have them anyway. I got the amp flow pr carbon pro
I it's overkill for me. I didn't need the px
I went for the removal battery in case I'm going somewhere and I want to charge it in a hotel room or something
Have the bike locked up. I can just pull the battery out. Yeah
And then if I ever need to resell it
It's easier to the battery for some reason goes bad. I've had this thing five years down the road
I can just pop any battery in. Yeah. Um, so and I'm sure if I stick with it
I'm sure I'll upgrade to something but that is more than enough bike for me for now. I'm just starting out to say the least
Bicycles have gotten
Really expensive. I remember when I bought a motorcycle range now when I bought my first canondale like 94 95
And I bought it myself with lawnmower money. I think I paid a thousand bucks maybe and that was like top of line
f5
Cattendate canondale advanced aluminum design head shock. I you know, I really splurged
um
But now you're I mean some of these e-bikes like I was looking at like Santa some of the Santa Cruz and canondale bikes are
15 16 thousand dollars. Do you go top flying everything?
I don't know. Yeah, that's a car
Yeah, technology is great, but that's a car. I'm not even going half that and well
I'm going about half that which I think is more than
No, I mean it's my point is the new norm is
Six to ten right and that's and that's depending on the components, you know, what you know, especially
With the new smart components the smart shocks and things like that. I don't know what this bike has but um
Yeah, it's it doesn't have the electronic shocks
Uh, they do offer fox electronic. Yeah, which is pretty sweet. Um more than every little battery packs on them
This says does have electronic shifting which I really like and the electronic shifter doesn't have its own battery
It's bad. It's wired right into the bike battery. That's nice. So I don't have to worry about two batteries. Um, it's got
You know, it's funny how much technology is in the e-bikes like not just in the motors
the controls I mean, it's got
Uh gps it's got heart rate monitoring assist
So you can do is you can set your target heart rate
On you wear a chest strap heart rate monitor and then you set in your target heart rate
And it will dial back or adjust up the motor the bike will force you into that to keep you into that range
Which is pretty sweet. I actually will probably use that. Yeah, because well, I'm right by um, what's the tokl trail?
I don't I don't forget the actual name of it
It runs from snow qualmy up to tokl over the bridge behind the fight the snow qualmy rifle club
Yeah, I know I thought it was tokl trail. Maybe it is tokl trail. That's the one where the ladies were attacked by the cougar
Right, that's right by my house right my dirt fish and all that
So I can basically ride out my back door and ride that all the way to duval if I want to
Yeah, and on any bike that's a really easy ride
But I could keep it actually coming back with that assist. Yeah, yeah, right
And so
I'm hoping to do that a lot when the weather changes. I'm hoping I can make that a quick
You know early morning or late afternoon or late afternoon ride after work or something
Just want to do more than that on the few sunny days. I have I wanted something to get me right out the door
Um, my electric skateboard does that too. That's fun. But that's a totally kind of fun
That's just cruising to your points with all the batteries
Like that was when I was searching when I was buying that last bike and I was looking at some enduro bikes
And I was looking downhill like the enduro bikes that I wanted
The derailleur had a battery the the first shocks had a bike and I was like and I know I'm the type of person
I'm excited. I'm like, I'm gonna go for a ride and then she's not charged
And then and I get it the the electric deraillers are so that you don't have the cables which
Yeah, your name. I think you could still do cables. Oh, yeah, it's but if you don't charge that you're not shifting
So and they last but I just didn't want to have like when I was getting into it
It was like buying all the extra stuff that I knew I would need yes
It came with a bunch of the stuff, but I was just like
It had that rock shock technology with it with you know that
measure, you know
The shocks on on mountain bikes now are just like the shocks in your car and on motorcycles
They they change that they change damper rates and everything instantaneously. So I'll be interested to see this. This is really cool
Yeah, it's uh, you'll fit it so you can ride it
I would be interested to take it for a ride and kind of see how it feels because like I said
I did a ton or I did a test of the ton of stuff
I was looking at the santa cruises which and the candles which I really liked but
It just was like, uh, that's I'm gonna need a car loan for that
Yeah, no, I was not going that big into it. I wanted to I thought about getting exactly what you do when I saw your dirt bike
Your your enduro your dual sport your ktm. I was like, man, that looks so much fun
It's like I'm just not gonna use it enough because what I really love to do with bikes is
Enduro and single track and that is not right at my back door. So don't get me wrong
I'm just like it's just like you and I still might end up with one. Yeah, but
And I might end up with another mountain bike. So right
But this like considering where we live. Yeah, I was like, man, there's just so much opportunity
Well, especially snow quality in north bend. I mean, I've got I really want to go nuts. I've got the
Doothy right down the road. Do I mean in tiger mountain in fact, doothy just released there are there they just
I don't know if it's just but they saw videos on their new their new courses out there
Yeah, they did a bunch of new stuff. So that's probably that's one of the best bike courses
In america, if not the world and those guys that care for that. So yeah, and we've got a huge mountain bike community here
And friends in it as well. So yeah, if you're if you're feeling stupid go for a ride with benji
Luckily, thank I am so thankful because benji is you know training with benji
Like I know he'll push me but he won't kill me. Yeah, he's one of those guys
So I trust to go ride with him. So of course, you know, no, I just meant if you get tired, he can tow you
Right, no kidding. Yeah, without a motor
Yeah, he's all power. Yeah, exactly. Cool. Yeah, so I'm looking forward to that if you've got listeners
If you are into that scene and there's like, oh, here's all the things you should know
I'm very open to feedback and advice. There's things. I don't know and I'm this is one of those stages
I'm like, there's a lot. I don't know. I know people to ask but I always love to hear things
Get a light a light pair of gloves get mountain bikes. Oh, yeah, I have those
Yeah, I try not anti-protection. You don't have to give me that advice
No, I just I just meant like I I took a bunch of the gloves that I had from the monkey
And I was wearing them when I was downhill it kind of worked because I had some uh
Carbon
Yeah, but I went and got light light ones like mountain because it used to be I
I grew up in the day when you're you're mountain bike gloves to had no fingers
And you know mesh and you could either be dancing for the village people are going for a ride
so right
Yeah, look at it that way. Is it like biking or does he have an alternative lifestyle?
Yep, we'll find out you can be both you can be both alternative biking lifestyle
Feel like that's got to be a very popular thing
Yes, yes very much furry bikers got to be a god
Now you get something caught in the chain. That's if you off the back like some guy riding as a wolf
Yeah, so the tech bike cougar. Yep. That's exactly where I'm like, oh
But that's probably an older woman. So yeah, yeah, we're gonna do ourselves a hole and get canceled. Oh, yeah
Okay, well, I think we should wrap up this episode before we go off on another tangent, but uh, right
Well, uh for this episode of the avance podcast as always. I'm nick. I'm dan
Don't just get there eat the cake eat the cake eat the cake. All right
If you're not interested if you are done understanding that reference, uh, go check out the facebook page
We got a good laugh out of it because someone clearly didn't listen to the episode
It had no context on the storyteller or why nick has access to the storyteller and it was entertaining other listeners
Another listener especially calm chimed in was like, uh, that's not he didn't listen. Yeah, you clearly didn't listen about the episode
So yeah, we are gonna make cake jokes from hell on about how we are going to eat our cake and throw it at the peasants
from
Oh god, we're gonna get canceled. I love it. Okay
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About this episode
Dan and Nick kick off with a debate about podcast “filler” and why they jump straight into content, praising their high listener completion rates. The conversation then bounces from a fun company trip to Cannon Beach (puffins!) and a van update, to a quick auto tip on idler vs tensioner pulleys. News and nerdy tangents follow: EV truck market shifts, diesel pricing frustrations, Uber’s robo-taxi push, and a “petty” Ford raptor key-fob branding change. They also talk Moab car-week coverage and Nick’s upcoming e-bike purchase for exploring trails near home.
This episode kicks off with a bit of well-earned self-hype as Avants Magazine Issue 23 drops—featuring us! Huge shoutout to Brian Elich for capturing some incredible photos that made the feature even better.
From there, we dive into some big industry news: GM pulling out of the electric truck market. What went wrong for legacy automakers like Ford and GM, and how did Rivian manage to get it so right? We break down the challenges—and we want to hear from you. If you’ve owned (or ditched) a Ford Lightning or GM EV truck, tell us what you loved… or didn’t.
Next up, we talk about Ford Raptor cost-cutting, and why enthusiasts are starting to notice some questionable decisions in a premium product.
Over in motorsport, Formula 1 changes the rules yet again, and surprise—fans and drivers aren’t thrilled. We unpack the latest shake-ups and what they mean for the sport.
On the brighter side, Porsche reveals yet another 911 variant, proving once again that they somehow never miss. Is it necessary? Maybe not. Does it look amazing? Absolutely.
And finally, Dan makes a life decision: buying his first e-bike (an Amflow PR Carbon Pro)—which also happens to be only his third bike ever… at 46. What could possibly go wrong?
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