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cross training series term supply. Hey guys welcome to the quail probably one of the most
prestigious auto shows in the world and as always all right not always but sometimes I'm here
with my man Mono man. So good to have you finally back at Pebble. After like 30 years
my first time since we drove the Tetra. See what everybody you tell these people that you like
the normal guy but really you're a fancy kind of a guy and that's why you're here. Yes I'm more of a
truck guy you know that but here we are at probably what how much how much in terms of money
and cars is here you think. Oh you kind of lose this count. Half a billion five million. What's
important about this whole thing is this Scottsdale and maybe one other auction a year
sets the collector car market for the entire year. So think of this as like one big Bloomberg
terminal that's a party in California. Well when this car came here it was for sale this morning
it was for sale. No it wasn't even for sale it was a demo and then we're going to ship it to
dealers but some guy literally walked up not making this up with a credit card went to that guy
over there and said here's my credit card I'll take. Here's my like 2.6 2.63 million dollars
and bought it. Now why is this 2.63 million dollars? What is this? Well this is it's not a valor most
people think it's a valor this is a valiant not a Plymouth so basically it starts life really it
was based on a vantage they ripped out the eight cylinder engine they shoehorn a 12 cylinder engine
then they ship it to Multimatic. Now I thought it was a Canadian car this is built in their
facility in the UK so all of the body work is carbon fiber it has the Multimatic dampers which
fun fact a lot of your trucks have your GM trucks have Multimatic dampers. Yes of course
and so do the Formula 1 cars. And then the most important thing here hopefully I don't get
murdered for this look at that it's a manual transmission but Roman take a look at the
linkage. Oh it's exposed and just beautiful look at that. So that's like from the day of the
Spica and that's why the car is so rare or one of the things that makes it so rare now for those
your audience probably looks at the front especially the unique front end and they say to themselves
well the Valor they only made 110 of those and they brought a fraction to the US that is the case
this one was made for their race driver and he wanted more of a sport version excuse me sorry
sir um I just bumped into one of the Aston Martin guys they're not making a good impression
so apparently one of the race drivers wanted a more sporting version of that so this is tuned
differently and as such they based the the the series of cars on a heritage Aston Martin hence
they're only making 38 of these they brought seven I think it's seven or 12 into the US this
was the last one I think it was 12 it's 12 okay and they decided that they're going to
demonstrate this car by shipping it around the dealers but someone here wrote a check and said
no you're not saying what you know why that is moto man because uh everything here at the quail
is about being one of one and this is the only jet black one of one yes that they've made and so
you could see why somebody would be like hey I don't want my neighbor to have a jet black
and that kind of answers the question of why would you spend 2.6 million dollars on a
rebody vantage it's because no one else can have it yeah that's the point can I say something cool
yeah this yeah this is machine guns the Aston Martin that's like 1-8 scale yeah look at the machine
guns dude because we should get that for Tommy yes I think he is a little too old now for that
so let's talk about what's next here we are in Ferrari land of course so this is registering as a
percent of production of Ferrari f50s so Ferrari f50s they were one of the line of like Enzo type cars
if you think of la Ferrari's Enzo's it started really with the 288 GTOs this car they only made
349 of them it had a 739 horsepower engine and when they were new and get this from it we're talking
like mid 80s these cars excuse me 475 thousand dollars and how much are they now that's that's
where we find out I would tell you up until yesterday they were worth about three and a half million
dollars each but these have been going up significantly in value over the past I want to see five years
they've had a run all right so so let's call it four million right so four eight twelve sixteen
twenty twenty four twenty eight thirty two thirty six forty forty four and then over here
forty eight fifty two fifty six sixty and I'm not done counting and then let's not forget
that we have f40s which are also worth about three million dollars yeah and I gotta say I'm more of a
f I'm more of an f40 guy I just think it's a better looking car I don't I don't really love
this air intake it looks like it looks like it's a giant you know nose and the nostrils I like the
f40 a little bit better I think it's a little bit uh sexier you and I normally don't agree on
these things but this is the one area I do agree with you so I won't give you crap for being
old yeah I prefer this one I do too but out of all of them maybe these meeting these special edition
like super duper Ferraris I still impartial the 288 GTL was this the last one that was built under
Enzo Ferraris this was the last one built under Enzo Ferraris yeah so this is if you want yeah if
you want the real Ferrabi yeah now let's look at today let's go over here oh look at this yeah
oh my my so ferrari I feel like unfortunately got this going on here um we've got to make it
through so these are fascinating because Ferraris they did these f40s f50s every like
couple of years every like 10 years you had a car like this Porsche kind of did the same thing
now the pace is so fast because they have different different uh derivations of these
now they have like the f80 at the same time so the question is what would you do with your
four million dollars to buy a car you know what I would do and I gotta say this is my
generation I would buy the Testarosa over there I love Testarosa 85 over there no that one with
you know that's a TR oh that's a 512 TR same same thing general thing yeah so where the Testarosa
over there is that a Testarosa yeah so what's the difference between that well so they changed
some body work they changed the output of the car this is where they had to change a number of
the um safety equipment in this car so if you look unfortunately this one has those crazy
belts remember the belts oh my god yeah yeah that's no forget that this was a small car manufacturer
right out where this car was prior to that and it only has one mirror look you're only getting one
mirror dude yeah my guess is this is a Euro market car if you look at this one here let's see
here 86 wow well let me ask you this my learned friend um and we were kind of talking about this
before we'll get we'll get to these cars in a second but why are Gallardo's like the id car right now
why are Gallardo's so hot you know Doug has a Gallardo Matt has a Gallardo why no you're telling me to
coontosh not a guy I'm sorry coontosh Gallardo is not the car no the coontosh Gallardo I just want
to make a point about a Gallardo yeah so you know when he's depreciation yeah that's where the
Gallardo at the bottom so this is the time they're only going to go up Gallardo's yeah so why are
coontosh yeah that's a really good question let's actually go this way so we can see some of the
race cars lined up sure um very good question I'll tell you why okay classic cars or really any car
any art anything you never buy the actual item itself you're buying a story and when it comes to
classic cars it's all a function of what did people covet when they were young and if you
think about like 250 series Ferraris those guys are dying off doesn't mean those cars are going to go
to zero but the value of 250 Ferraris are going down but coontosh is there those people now have
disposable income they can afford a toy like that that's why they're going up in value so our
Diablos and Mercilago is going to follow you think are they already Diablos already follow
okay yeah yeah the mercies are they've bottomed out they're going up as well hey did you see
the company here it's just over here actually uh that reimagines the Diablo have you seen that
company yes right over here esoteric yeah let's go look at that yeah oh look there's a uh car in a
box how yeah these these are actually my buddies from the airport yeah yeah these are my airport
buddies they do this luxury rally club thing here and you can see some of the guys we'll
make our way through here it's a corning zig yeah actually this guy is dutch and he owns a car
called the donkavort and we're going to shoot his donkavort in about a month yes although he has bad
taste in hats well it's very interesting i know what the donkavort is this guy really has been this
guy was like employee number five at night yeah well that's still pretty amazing do you still wear
the shoes of course yeah all right tell the audience what's your daily that's my daily i drive old
cars every day okay well he literally i literally i have new cars that i don't like so i just drive
old so what's your favorite hard to say but the one i'm actually rallied up here with was a 1952
mercedes 220 now there's an old car yeah yeah actually it's a it's a uh completely uh what's called
uh i'm spacing but it's super stiff it goes through curves really well all right let me
i'll excuse let me get hard on you yeah what i guess you have a lot of cars tubular sorry
but if you if you could only keep one car that you know i already so my my always questions
says irv can say the same thing that the the my always thing is what's my favorite car they go
no when everything goes to shit of course all the expensive cars disappear because you have to
pay for shit so what'd be the last car i keep is exactly that car there you go yeah 52 mercedes
okay thank you mr 20 thank you what you doing nike i was everything but i pretty much
though i became the whole all the products that went into line i was the guy that made the
final well you know about manufacturing in china yes a lot yeah no i didn't know 21 he's very like
21 i got put in charge of a 30 000 person factory i just got out of college i go i have
fucking no idea what i'm doing my boss goes neither do i good luck well it's nice meeting you
okay buddy i'll see you back at the hangar all right let's keep going here wow that's uh
some nikey royalty there that's he is nikey royalty he literally for those of you that know
running yeah this guy used to run with steve pre-fontein really yeah oh yeah like that's kind
of the world i still run by the way i still run but not as much as you can imagine i'm switched it
up i now do the kickboxing oh interesting oh come on lancia 037 so here's another thing where the
market's changing on these cars so back in the day i mean these were crappy old rally cars nobody
wanted them so this is like pre outy quattro this was what they were going to be competitive
against the world stage and rally the only problem was it was two-wheel drive was this was this when
wrc was truly deadly i'd say so where people you know where people died and while this car is it
basically is built on the bones of a basic lancia beta coop that's what this was the gato design
but effectively they put this crazy engine in the back it just turned it into a monster
of a car but then unfortunately outy came and ate their lunch with the all-wheel drive cars and
they haven't done a lot since then i gotta say oh i'm sorry that was a hot take that hurts oh but
it's kind of true isn't it that hurts can i point something out can i say something before you
get off outy i want to make a hot take hot take i think that the r8 yeah was the high water
for outy that's when that's when you know outy was really hitting hard do you realize that
um you're right i think i hate to admit you're right but it's true isn't it and it's not just me
telling you this the collector car market agrees yeah try look at the values of a 10 cylinder
outy with a manual r8 with a manual oh before we go over here look at this this is special
787 b the only laman winning monster i actually saw this i saw this in uh in japan i saw this
car in japan in the mazda museum or at least a version of this they have two they built two of them
the one that floats around mainly there's one like kind of a knockoff in the u.s the one in japan
is the laman winning car that's the one i saw and i was there if you see it there's always the guy
there is a guy that lives with it that sleeps next to it well it makes it never out of his
sight can i show you the lfg oh before we do that let's go over here i wanted to point
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another 60s era ferrari of course this so look at what we've just shown you here we've shown you
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and then dotsons that slayed these guys back in the 70s and then look the only chinese car
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the mires banks and tuttle you know tuttle right there they do they reimagine portions in the
uk yep and mires bought mires banks recently and so this is a flat six putting out 300 horsepower
and it's the ultimate doom buggy really that's what we're looking at here that is beyond the ultimate
doom buggy it is probably beyond the ultimate doom buggy you want to head over to conic zag or
you want to keep going we can i don't know much about conic zag except that they're very quick
so conic zag is an interesting business there are two companies here that have a very similar
business model conic zag and singer yeah we'll continue a little bit later i don't know how to
pronounce your check you should know how to pronounce that these guys basically are in their
defense contracts they make money with a very high tech defense contracting and then they do
this car business stuff on the side which i find fascinating and they do it to a level that is
both art breaking barriers of technology but also look at some of the timelessness going on here
like for example a carbon fiber arm for the wiper and then notice not a screen it's a gauge cluster
yeah thank god huh it's very pegani-ish isn't it it's got a little bit of pegani to it and they're
here by the way as well so roman i recently shot uh bugatti terbion yeah and they called
terbion because it's basically that but built by a swiss watchmaker just watch it's a watch
and it's it's made of rubies and sapphires and talk about timeless it is the most exquisite thing
i've ever seen it's not here though i haven't seen a terbion here now the terbion is not here
bugatti is here but the last run of their w16 is here the terbion is a v16 and it has
three electric motors no turbochargers 1800 horsepower and the electric motors are made in
house you can hear the race car starting up so we're about to start the award ceremony so if you
look at the why the clocks we're at 240 this goes to about four o'clock and you and i have been here
since what 88 30 yeah probably earlier i got here at seven seven wow yeah that was nice there's
nobody here let's go over here okay get some ice cream is that where we're going want to get some ice
cream let's get some ice cream oh come on look at this so i think it's a knockoff xj 13 so this
was a jack war believe it or not let's see if it's real do you think it's you think it's a knockoff
hey it's it's not real i didn't expect it to be real if it was real it'd be worth a hell of a lot more
yeah so this was a super rare kind of project concept car i turned into a race car for jack war
never really made it hold on this before you before you blow by this
look at this i love these like a free turbo this is the mustang of the uk again the beauty of
quail is you get these unusual cars set amongst super fancy cars and can we show them the other
beauty of quail yeah what's that over here but what's the other beauty of quail oh yeah sir hey buddy
andy good to see you so you guys don't know andy this is andy i'm not going to embarrass his
father right now his father is like one of the grandfugas at kia and we met on a drive one time
it turns out his father is big into cigars and problematic bursadies that's a good way to describe
your father yeah exactly okay thank you andy okay buddy yeah all right so let's go look at this this is
the other reason why you want to come to quail do you want some ice cream no i want to keep going
let's keep going okay so i want to show you something super cool all right so look check this out
so you know i'm a Porsche guy yeah but i'm more about design tactile feel color and trim
look at the color and trim of this the wood is not just on the dash and the doors it's on the back
of the seats very uh nautical themed oh i'm surprised it's not wood back here i'm you and me both i do like
the rear of the vanquish a bit better than the dv-12 and then you have this over here which is
it's basically a spaceship made of carbon fiber this one has an upgraded carbon fiber in terms
of the tub that it's made of basically a race car it is a race car yeah i'm not gonna tell you
i can take my hand off what aston martin is doing it's a tough slog to compete against germans
and with these cars still trouble but the fact that they're doing these one-offs
i think that's the way forward so what is this one called
it's not the velhalla is it no that's the velhalla is a little bit different
there's no name on it's it's so one of one that they they don't even have a name on it
is there a name on the back
velhalla like so i said it was the velhalla yeah all right uh-huh roman gets one right okay roman
gets one right you know after i called the uh kuntars de gardo i kind of i hope i kind of uh yeah
came back strong all right let's keep let's keep going let's see what else there is
you know i this is my first time here and i am dbx over here by the way and i am amazed
i was just a good wood and there are a lot a lot of cars there but this kind of even out
good wood good wood because i mean over here bugatti i want to show you we can look at that
it's just a mod scene right now i like the dog in the purse like a that's a real purse dog
that's another thing about the monster eight peninsula for car week you're going to see a
lot of dogs and louis futon bags so a couple of things to point out here
a lot of unique details in the car you like the horse in the horse park i'm not in the horse
but something bugatti's have been doing as of late these sky view routes so they do this as an option
and they did it in the charon they're doing it in this kind of one off and they're also doing
it in the terbion so the terbion the doors the way they open it'll actually open up the
airiness it's like i gave you a little bit of bugatti trivia sure you see this elephant yeah right
there yeah you know where that comes from tell us so a tori bugatti had a brother who was a sculptor
yes i'm definitely he sculpted that awesome so there you go we'll actually comments below
who was the famous artist that was really related to a tori i don't know who no i put it in the
comment we'll put it in the school yeah all right so we were talking about realm will send you
his media pass as a gift we're talking about over here i gotta show you car well hold on we got
reimagined uh Lamborghini right then we'll show you another car so does this look familiar to you
looks very familiar yes tell us what it is it's a Lamborghini that's been reimagined um and
it's a it's before the mercy was before the mercy of diablo it's a reimagined diablo
talking about the market has already gone up on regular diablo so i think this is odd that
they're doing this whole singer thing but then again everyone's doing the singer thing because they saw
that the great success that they've made with horses that are reimagined it's a modern day
i have to say that's very good wood that's very good yes all right what what did you want
to do well let's go over here and check out a car it's not a near and dear to me okay let's go
check it out are we looking at no Bentley it's old Bentley a blower Bentley it's not a blower Bentley
it's a 28 four and a half liter but it's no longer wow okay pass that music we gotta keep away for the
music dude yeah oh again it's right there so i can't do that those speakers are so loud
you're gonna have to cut that anyway yeah look there's a joebie do me a favor you're gonna
have to cut the Valhalla and i screwed up the dates on me on the Ferrari so say the dates
the dates are mid 90s i said mid 80s that's all right yeah we're all human we make mistakes
oh you want to hear something near and dear to us the joebie do you know who works for this guy no
who eric adams remember eric adams car rider extraordinaire he was a front device with
going all the trips he now works for this joebie company yeah well they're building an electric
air taxi basically a drone oh here come in just again here we go that's a great shot rome
okay as a pilot yeah i can officially tell you that was highly illegal what they just did but i love it
and let's the rule of airspace yeah you what they did you can only do what's called echo
airspace meaning you have to be at least 500 feet above people animals and structures so they were
definitely lower than 500 feet so here's a celeste you like the design of this thing you know what i
like the concept of it but i don't like the execution that it's a hatchback it's kind of a
funny looking car isn't it i love the proportions i would have loved it more if it was some sort of
like a 12-cylinder plug-in hybrid oh my god this music our timing with the music is just terrible
i get it the deaths are coming yeah i get it you want to stop no we can keep going don't worry
these mics are pretty good just keep away from the black speakers and speaking of a singer there's
gunther
i think we picked the very worst time to do this yeah the bird almost got in the formation
well at least they're going to hear some kenny loggins
i hope it works what do you think of gunther you know what from an engineering they're actually
not far from me in huntington beach yeah from an engineering point of view i think they do a
great job in terms of them against the singer i like the the the reinterpretation singer does more
than these guys do well these guys are a little bit more like performance oriented and singer is more
classic it's more than that yeah come here i'm gonna show you oh yeah
like look at the interior of this car that's not performance only that has high arc the details
of the carbon five basically a reinterpretation of a rikaro seat with a carbon fiber literally
structure and then they put these beautiful leather details in it and then they have a carbon fiber
reinterpretation of the dash why do you think they're they just let anybody in while we're working
right now yeah keep working okay sir right nick is waiting to go i know okay so you know all
right let's keep going let me ask you this oh no man why so why is there this renaissance of
these reinterpreted you know 911s lamborghini's right why is why is why is why is all this happening
though is it just a lot of tech bro money well the answer is not really about cars the answer
there's a lot of dollars chasing fuel resources yeah so you have these cars people like for example
you could buy this right and then a sex like a hundred is for 80 to 100 grand okay exactly or
you could buy like a one-off 911 that you decided to create completely on your own by the way this is
a new hour of sex what do you think i think they go again yeah i got it oh look at these guys wow
yeah i think these mirrors will never make it into production that's what i think now
yeah i don't know why designers love those little camera mirrors tell me what you see here
uh i see no grill what am i supposed to see the lotus and uh electric electric the electric
like the old buke electric yeah exactly yeah i see the electric you're right so back to what we're
saying it's too few too many dollars chasing too few resources and granted that's i think we're
going to start changing that in the system as the economy changes as excuse me most importantly
as economic policy changes that's really what's going on here i also think you know we start this
by saying one of one i think people just want the one thing that nobody else can have i think there's
there's a sense of that right now so these are the new mires mangs yeah so these things they come
at a couple of different flavors this is the electric model here they just introduced this
like four cedar one over here and then you probably know matt this is matt's car he bought
this i watched him hey various i literally watched him place the order last year in this very spot with
jennifer flake no exaggeration and for those that don't know jennifer flake very good friend she ran
board comms for many years is he a mangs now she was the ceo of mangs yes okay so she bought the car
from her and it was delivered six days ago he trailered it with a bentley bentega up here
and it was at motor looks what's up i'm so sorry i was so distracted i was i'm being a bad friend
we're on camera right now you want to tell us a little bit about the car for the record i was at
motor looks very distracted i was a bad friend to you i was rude to you you weren't but your wife
was nice to me well she does that she backs me up i was in such like a brazil distracted so you
can make it up to me about having a cigar yes laner i've gotten what i have i've got two cigars
under that blanket for the rollout for when i drive it out at the black pass that's the i get to
drive a car off the lawn so i just told him the story that i watched you buy this car in front
of jennifer flake last year is that true yeah 100 yes it's true and then you just got it six days
ago but it's almost true because they tried to swipe my credit card for the 50 deposit here
and i said no i said look i'm i'm getting the car but i'll bring you i'll bring you check
he pulled out the square reader i was like dude i can't even roll like that okay show us most i'm gonna
give you the mic here take the mic okay come on show us the shift knob and tell us why it's important
i think hannah should probably do that because it's her hannah come here hannah give her the bike
hannah guess what this is the better hand sign the release this is my wife hannah my better half
this is really an accessory okay hannah feels very good tell george about the shift knob
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you as i'm sure like you know john hannah has a collection of hot dog iconography memorabilia
in this bathroom speak into my neck yeah yeah and in our bat in this bathroom and it's like
overflowing with hot dogs that won't go in there anymore well because there's no room for me to
poo i've seen this i've seen this yeah you've been there yeah so so but what happens is when
people find out that you have a collection of things they then start getting you more of that
thing and just spirals out which is great on every level and so brenda who is in charge of styling at
banks learned about hannah's hot dog thing and so we have the decay of hot dog shift which is she
made it unsolicited yeah no that's not true we talked with her about it but it was her idea
and the best part about the whole thing was like the prototyping that had to happen and like
sometimes there was air bubbles around the hot dogs and it was just brenda in her kitchen at night
trying new and different things it was amazing super cool and so cool yes you know hannah's right like
we did talk about it it wasn't totally unsolicited but the final product that was the bouquet of hot
dogs was her creation that was her admission yeah one hot dog in there but we did get surprises
like literally hannah wanted heated seats and i wanted sport bucket seats and those are not the
same thing yeah and they've literally surprised us by doing the very first heated sport bucket seat
for hannah so we didn't even ask them to get a check for it when they sell them
well that you better get the microphone so that there's that which no i won't get a check but
we did get them for free but but we did i'm getting i'm gonna get a royalty for the matt
farah dead pedal which i had them make because they had the floor high beams which suck so i
said dead pedal trigger high beam is what i want and they and now they're offering that as a thing for
other people you can afford the cigar so i can afford the cigar i'm going to get to thank you
dude thanks man thank you but we didn't eat the engine the engine the radio you guys you guys
are talking about the radio engine look yeah we have an airplane engine and you know most people
who buy a manx they start with a love for like volkswagons or something right and this is just
an extreme version of that i i approach this from the radio engine backwards i don't really care that
much about volkswagons it's to the point where i would buy a volkswagen powered manx but this
is a totally different thing this is the ab geek special ah it's crazy and so it's a three cylinder
two liter radio it's a hundred and fifty horsepower 170 torque it's a billet uh block and a billet
uh Australia radio motion is the company in Australia but manx owns them now so it has the
fins but it's water cooled the radiator is behind here and uh it runs mo tech it's got a four speed
Porsche gearbox and all kinds of good good stuff right yeah i can't thank you so thank you guys we'll
catch you up later i'm going to go to the Porsche party tonight sam and uh fire pits tomorrow
okay i'll be at fire pits all right there you go okay there you go you got it from the
horse's mouth he said uh that they wander on the credit card and that's because as cute as they are
they're north of a hundred thousand if you get the radio engine pretty much yeah it is the most
expensive one it's yeah i mean once upon a time you would buy the manx uh fiberglass body
you would get a volkswagen speedless donor car just get away from that by that speaker yeah yeah
and then you would build it yourself and now of course it's become a lifestyle vehicle
which is fine but yeah you gotta have money so that's what i was saying about it's two a lot of
dollars chasing too few resources and these guys i think hit it perfectly kind of at the tail end
of all that money in the in the financial system and so they early on they sold a lot of cars
i don't know what they're doing right now that's the big question now we have a surprise before you
go this is oh you wanted to see this uh ring brothers asked martin so ring brothers yeah so the ring
brothers are a company out of wisconsin where i used to work as a tv reporter uh they're known for
going to see me i didn't know that about you yeah we're in wisconsin i lived in jamesville uh and
they're known they're known for building incredibly kind of like liberty walk in japan right so they're
known for these incredibly beautiful seama builds but they decided to do a like a 70s astin this is a
huge departure it is departure yeah they do buicks and camaros well they do mustangs and yeah exactly
now they've done this and it is absolutely gorgeous i mean look look at this it's it's you know it's
completely it's like a single level build it's like a single level build and what i love about it
is the temptation would be to put screens but you smell it look at the interpretation of the
astin martin logo yeah that is i love it can you smell the leather i can smell oh my god no
exactly look at where i'm standing yeah i can literally smell the leather yeah i can also smell
the cigars i know you can smell the cigars yes the two go hand in hand thank you i love it i love it
so yeah i just say hi again good to see you again good job man i love that cool thank you hey guys
russle dad sorry we're behind the scenes here yes oh we're gonna be online you're on russle
we're recording many years uh vulva he basically put vulva on the map so when they when they basically
reinterpreted vulva's modern day xc 90 2014 15 this is the man that that introduced it to the us
knows that right and more importantly i appreciate that corporate plug and you know check is in the
mail more importantly because of him i got to spend the night in the ice hotel yeah that was fun
what yeah that was that was my coup de gras that was it he's also a great friend but it's
like a little story behind the scenes when i was in the hospital after i got mowed down by a tesla
we're both from new york he brought me some pastrami on right and matzo balls and matzo
he's like my jewish no no matzo ball no matzo ball soup just a matzo ball yeah just a matzo ball
all right what else is there what else is there true that okay here we got the pagani of course
the huayra huayra and um yeah yeah these are different so these are so rare same with the
kooning sector they're so rare well they're like four of them here there's like eight of them here
dude but how rare can that be because this is the official used car dealership like this is the
certified pre-owned pagani dealership so how much is it pre-owned huayra i don't even know where
do you start three and a half million four million dollars something like that do you know
when these blew up when top gear profiled them yeah nobody knew what a huayra was i love
setting huayra but the beauty of these things you're buying something so rare and it's it could
be sold anywhere in the world it's kind of like a blue chip investment so we're we're talking about
too many dollars chasing too few resources yeah this is like a goal there's just enough
to satisfy the world demand i kind of feel like these guys parked the cars the wrong way
am i wrong i'm not wrong am i well i mean if you're greek you like it that way yeah yeah
oh well i'm greek wait a minute you are greek yeah oh okay wait wait wait you got some no no no look
left what's your take on this oh god this is the new jaguar double o concept how are you
sir i saw it in miami did you buy the case the master car i think you know what a good word the
guy said the same thing you're the second person say that you guys are classy guys thank you sir thank you
okay all right so double o concept wow we were about to say negative things no i'm not saying
negative i like it so here's the thing let me show it i said on camera when the car came out i went
to the launch in miami you got to see it in person to understand yeah when you see it in person you
understand the proportions and i want to clarify something here go down on record everybody like
you look on the internet pretty crap on jaguar they only sold like three cars in all of 2025
the whole prop the whole focus was we were going to stop building cars do i think that was
the right thing to do no i think you should have kept building cars had something in the entrance to
sell until you do this so you know jerry mcgovern is you know head of design for jlr yes and he's done
the latest range rover he's done the defender he's a very talented designer very talented designer
and he did this i think to a large extent and i like this my only complaint a very simple complain
is showers they completely like cut the heritage off right there's you can't draw a line from
like an e type or i would agree to this there's nothing there's there's a chasm between this and
they're and that's a shame there's a cup come on over here there's a couple of things going on here
number one i think it's a great interpretation of proportions there's crazy width and there's
crazy look at this dash to axle so that's how much space between the foot compartment and the rear
of the of the wheels now that's what changes the proportions the thing i spoke with jerry the
chief designer's car when he launched it the one thing he said that is definitely two things he said
it's coming to production the wheels both size and design as well as the proportions now between us
chickens he was telling me it's really going to be like a five door now the question is is it going
to continue to be a full electric car what do you think uh you know jaguar just replaced her
long-standing ceo with the cfo from tata which is a parent company and i think uh as a guy who
probably counts pennies and sees which way the wind is blowing i think they'll do the same thing
that Porsche is doing and other the manufacturers are doing and that's back off the electric
and put some kind of a electric put some kind of a non-electric engine like like you know like
like the charger right same thing they're gonna put in dodge was smart enough to engineer
that program to accept an engine the question is did they engineer this to accept the gas engine
probably not because they were my guess is that's what they're working on now yeah they were all
in on electric right the other huge piece that i would share with you yeah they're coming to
the market too late by the time that comes to market in 27 which is what they told us it's
coming that car will be competing against a totally new generation of Mercedes electrics
which are going to be fantastic hey we got come over here morgan one of my favorites
this is a morgan plus four now you're looking at roman and i saying that looks like any other
plus what it came before it that is where you are wrong this is no longer a steel frame and a
wood a steel chassis in a wood frame this it's now all wood it's an aluminum tub i'm kidding
it's literally built like a modern day like a corvette i like the three-wheeler better nope we just
shot an episode tell roman you want the episode yeah tell roman you want the episode with nathan
of the three-wheeler anyway this is a whole aluminum tub did you guys go on like a date
the three-wheeler no he did a comparison of that with the Polaris and this was so much better
i can see you guys going to a we had a great time driving diner we did go to a concert together
true story totally went to a concert nathan wants the cheeseburger and our great
his wife and my girlfriend ditched us all right hey so this is now it's a it's an aluminum tub
has a BMW engine you gotta wait for the speakers this is my favorite car here it's an off-road
911 if you we have to get to the i'm going to show you a favorite if you want to more if you
want to know more about this head on over to all tfl i did a complete video on it and we're
heading to work or can i show you something cool of course this electric link in future going oh
forget that the link in future this is one of our neighbors down at the airport yeah so this car
comes to the airport all the time it's like the batmobile because it was the batmobile yeah
this is the car that george barris took and made into the batmobile this is the link
in future a concept so come over here now this one's been reinterpreted a little bit it's got a
totally different updated interior but you can still see the link engages over there cool it's way
cool look at the size of this uh is it a trunk what's under there look at these exhaust holes oh my
god supposedly that was where the jet engine for the batmobile went okay but you can see the
the atom west batmobile here all right now come over here we have a surprise for you guys gtr skyline
over there which by the way i'm bonafide collectible cars let's go this way yeah we gotta go to the
corvette oh here's the speaker it's gonna get loud again all right let's walk by this
all right let's go look at the corvette stand
okay so two weeks anybody that follows my show knows i go to the cars in my yard to party in
detroit every year and i have a very good friend who is the chief designer of chevrolet his name is
philzak and he was there and he's like are you going to quail and i said yes he says i'm bringing
something special not this however this is special this is the 1959 stingray concept this was designed
by none other than peter brock the same guy that raced those gothsons we saw earlier so basically
he's the one that brought out the concept of what became the c2 well come on over here let me show
you look at the interpretation of that design in now a concept car that will become
i'm not going to say a c9 come here let me show you something else
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let's see the podcast yeah let's go back to work it's worth everyone this guy he was like this he was
just like he's 12 years old now he's grown up he's a fairy i was the same size he is not okay so he was
in texas back there i've known him since he was like before the hair i think but you know before
the kids now he's an old man before i had long hair me and me and him go way back we went to
japan together with his lovely wife by the way yeah that japan trip was awesome exactly that's
right we went to the underground car meet they got like shut down yeah that was so cool so cool yeah
there for like a whole 10 minutes yeah it was like being in a fast and furious movie and lexus took
us there out of all people and i know they are the ones they are the ones who like were like
let's go yeah it wasn't even us and it was roman that ruined it for everybody right it was it was
he was like being super obvious and the cops were like no you know how to get rid of people in
japan they just turn the sirens on and just keep him on right they get on for like 45 minutes
you guys are lucky the yakuza didn't come and deal with your ass the yakuza oh it's not like japanese
mafia yeah we just showed our age there all right okay get back to work for us all right bye so look
at this and what i was showing you was it's not a c9 this is an interpretation of what could be the
c10 and cx get it get it so take a look at the daylight opening what they've done here is they've
made it like remember the aero vet back in the day in the 73 aero vet that's what they've
interpreted this one is all electric this one is all electric it's got a clam shell that opens up
here and you climb into it and the pedals and the steering wheel go forward and backward to let you in
and out of the car that car is not electric that car is a plug-in hybrid race car that has three
electric motors and they get this a 2 liter v8 16 000 rpm and then check this out
so what they've done with the diffuser look at how far the diffuser goes down there
so this is something they've stolen from the 4.6 million dollar bugatti terbion where they put
the diffuser in here for downforce so on the street car it doesn't need the wing in order to
create a higher top speed so two cool things you said 2 liter v8 right 2 liter v8 piston is
going to be like that big yeah and i like this no step yeah that's your favorite thing yeah let's show
them that you want to come on over here but i just want you to me come here hold on a second
this is the coolest car guy in the world this is carman tell them the kind of car you drive
and doing a vmw 335 yeah but you've done some stuff to it you're in a video right now yeah
i drive a nearly 600 horsepower vmw 335 uh it's a printed twin turbo it's on uh it's about to be on
cool ethanol uh port injection basically everything else cool bolt on now why is carman so cool she
is cool because what did your dad do for a living uh he flew planes he flew 747s all right
it was a helo pilot nice meeting you i gotta get it on track again in vietnam yeah i gotta get
it on track he's not fun okay we'll talk later come on yes thank you bye okay come here yeah okay
roman doesn't like that i was trying to give you guys i'm trying to keep you not being pervy
dude that's what i'm trying to do okay here we go this is the racing okay let me get stepped
this you see this here yeah it looks like by the way i love your watch was that love the watch
oh thank you this is carbon fiber but the whole concept of the racing this isn't a
some like high in the sky like design deal what they've done here is they've tested this with
their racing team in north carolina so it's not just something that is oh my god this is what we
could make the car look like this is all based on what kind of top speeds they could hit
and this actual arm here can create some balance
let's show them a car that you can actually buy well if you can't but you supposedly could
so this is uh this is the z r1 x the quail silver limited edition over here
that's the quail edition that's the quail edition yeah
pretty cool yeah so um 100 and uh $217,000 an ounce of price and it just set the American
production car number record so question for you yeah do you think that's too much money
no no compared to a gtd which is going to be twice that that's not too much gtd sticker wise is not
going to be twice it's like they're like 350 so 150 more and it's a little slower at least
around the number ring until they do it what do you think of this the one-off one rivian
why would you want a one-off one electric car they sold it for 175 i don't think that's a good
investment no probably not no but you know it went to a charity yeah so something important here um
back to that zero one x yeah spend some time talking with phil and i asked him i said are you
guys going to limit these cars are you going to make a numbered edition here it's like
actually technically they're not limited edition but they are supply constraint so basically you
know how concrete how cumbersome it is to build the engines in those cars yeah so instead of being
able to say we're going to make 500 they're limited by how many of the engines they can build by hand
in bull and green katalki okay and then here's your Lamborghini yeah we're talking about the
so i drove a can't you can't see out of it yeah you can't fit in i don't think you can't back it up
you can't now the coil continues you can't do much with it yeah but i still love the judging process
by which i'm gonna i'm gonna another hot take okay hot day here we go so this is the prototypical
Lamborghini right this is what established the dna of the brand no that was the mirror as many
yeah the mirror was a little bit less over the top right this was this was like over the top
yeah supercar design features but at the time they were a little douchey which is a you know a word
for my generation all right but like the williams if you were class across the stage if you were
like you know really into wearing gold chains and turned up collars this would be the car you
would have bought back in the day see this is this is where i disagree right there because i think there
are two there's a tale of two kuntas okay tell me there's this one the 80s which people associate
with mani vices yeah which you just described yeah so you're not wrong however there is also what's
called a periscope car now people think of my mani vices think a car like this it's a he had a Ferrari
but the idea was all right the contemporary of the Ferrari but there was also adam hello adam
hello adam he's busy filming yeah uh he was he was the running marketing director of the
peterson for many many many years cool anyway so the periscope was a totally different car periscope
didn't have any of this bodywork no wing and it had like almost a tunnel in the roof where instead
of having a rear view mirror you look for a periscope to see the back of the car that car looks very
different than this even though the body's the same now the haggarty choice foundation is the 70s
that's the one i think is timeless yeah i agree but so they've got different Lamborghinis here right
but they're all kind of the same same job right except that one which doesn't have the wing
look at how much more mature this looks that car how different original mechanical
all right let's let's wrap this up here we've been going almost an hour you want to wrap up on
nsxt and astin martin all right well we start with astin wouldn't it be fitting to finish with
astin i think so yeah yeah especially like the muscle car astin martin yeah the james bond
astin martin or late james bond yeah this isn't uh v8 james tennessee dolton matt astin martin
actually we should be the one the question what's your favorite james bond car
doesn't have to be an astin martin yeah yeah it's a seven series being i'm kidding
oh wait a minute we end on that oh we got to show him a tippo 33 oh i don't know anything about the
tippo oh my god look at this the interior of this car is worth the extra time we're all
so alfa Romeo does have a stand here which is cool oh they had the standing with this car this
is one of these kind of like one-offs they're made you know don't quote me on this i think
they're making 30 of them yeah it's like 2.7 million dollars oh my god it's effectively a
maserati it's an mc20 with a stunning body well first of all it's got this beautiful uh what's
what's the ferrari red it's rosso corsa right that's the ferrari red rosso corsa but what's the
what's the red i don't know what the alpha color is but that is the same red you saw on the
eight c which was also a special car back in the day and you know what here's a top tip
in the collector car market believe it or not you lost money if you bought one of those cars new
i heard the eight c i heard the eight c doesn't drive well but you know what that's that's garbage
it's actually it's it doesn't drive as well as the modern day ferrari or the contemporary ferrari
yeah but when you consider that it's more rare than the contemporary ferrari that's all right let me
ask you this before you show me interior yes what color does that remind you of a meata color
oh crystal red crystal crystal solid yeah crystal solid metallic and you save yourself
2.65 million oh the interior is gorgeous but look at the details number one look at how
this is exactly out of the original tip road but then everything we have a screen yes there and
they have a screen yes there but look they still render the gauges almost mechanically on each
side of the ip and then there's toggle switches on the top over the driver like an airplane
or like a raptor or a bugatti turbion which this is half the price yeah yeah or any osprey
dear yeah very cool you had one i had one did you lose money on that uh you know we probably lost
we i think you paid like 82 for it and we ended up selling it for like 75 that's not bad so but
we only had it for two months we made all that sweet and we made all that sweet and that's right
yeah all that sweet and then uh it's kind of the same effective power what do you do what is it with
alfa romeo how can they can build this and then the same company comes out you know and does their
crossovers you know i've got an answer that's not fact it's just my interpretation yeah i think this
is the vision of one person and the alfa romeo is a vision of many different people in many
different boardrooms in many different countries yeah that is the problem with stilantis they
i mean too many brands go in too many different directions i mean the tunale you know i know what
i mean oh and i didn't say the other word that a lot of americans are thinking right they didn't
like do any research like hey yeah you know it might sound a little bit like something else that's on
your front isn't a weird name it's a very strange name and the stilvio is okay right actually fun
fact what does revuelto mean isn't a bowl fighting ball right every Lamborghini it's a fighting bowl
that means agitated but what they didn't realize it also means scrambled eggs in spanish
oh and um tunale and uh what's the other one uh can't think of it now stilvio right those are
named after italian mountain passes mountain passes yes it's unfortunate it's unfortunate because
it's a great brand and i'd love someone to be a better steward of it but here's a big question
for you yeah even let's say for the sake of discussion tomorrow toyota bought it not that
they would but let's say they did and they threw their resources at it do you think there's enough
of a market outside of bmw mercedes and outie that people would consider a good alpha you know
marcione mark you know the old ceo stilantis he said there were three brands that were crucial
crucial to the company it was jeep it was uh what was the other one alfa male was one of them
and i think it was ram i think those were the three brands so yeah alfa male is worldwide it's well
yeah formula one but they just can't seem to get like their mojo back from pre-war it's because they
have too many things going on it's kind of like do you remember maybe that's why ferrari left uh
left alfa male right that was to float the company and make money that was that was a money grab
all right i think he did well do you remember alan malally back in the day at florida yeah i remember
he came in and she probably shouldn't go that close let's turn around yeah um he came in and
famously said we're selling all these brands what do you think of this i love this yeah this is a
visceral experience so he came in ferrari it was a brand it was alfa male ferrari and jeep were the
three iconic brands that at that time i see him so marcione came in he he was focusing on things
but alan malally at ford a decade not a decade prior he came in in uh when the company still had
the premier automotive group and they were selling winkins and astin martin's and land rovers and he
said you know what we're getting rid of all the extraneous brands we're only focusing on two
lincoln and ford and people looked at him like are you crazy turns out the smartest thing he could
have done because he focused yeah the other thing he did which was smart was uh he uh you know
said one ford one world one car you know so he built the same car for europe the focus
the fiesta uh and got rid of the kind of those kind of clumsy like the tourists right these cars that
were just old school american that didn't resonate anymore and unfortunately you know we're kind of
back to that now in some ways at ford especially companies like bmw they sliced the pie so much
so much but now they're starting to roll it back whether because you don't need a two series
grant to pay yeah exactly it's too much so basically we thought we'd start talking about cars but
really this is life advice from two old men through that all right guys older man right here
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