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cross training series term supply. Hey guys welcome to the quail probably one of the most
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prestigious auto shows in the world and as always all right not always but sometimes I'm here
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with my man Mono man. So good to have you finally back at Pebble. After like 30 years
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my first time since we drove the Tetra. See what everybody you tell these people that you like
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the normal guy but really you're a fancy kind of a guy and that's why you're here. Yes I'm more of a
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truck guy you know that but here we are at probably what how much how much in terms of money
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and cars is here you think. Oh you kind of lose this count. Half a billion five million. What's
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important about this whole thing is this Scottsdale and maybe one other auction a year
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sets the collector car market for the entire year. So think of this as like one big Bloomberg
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terminal that's a party in California. Well when this car came here it was for sale this morning
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it was for sale. No it wasn't even for sale it was a demo and then we're going to ship it to
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dealers but some guy literally walked up not making this up with a credit card went to that guy
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over there and said here's my credit card I'll take. Here's my like 2.6 2.63 million dollars
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and bought it. Now why is this 2.63 million dollars? What is this? Well this is it's not a valor most
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people think it's a valor this is a valiant not a Plymouth so basically it starts life really it
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was based on a vantage they ripped out the eight cylinder engine they shoehorn a 12 cylinder engine
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then they ship it to Multimatic. Now I thought it was a Canadian car this is built in their
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facility in the UK so all of the body work is carbon fiber it has the Multimatic dampers which
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fun fact a lot of your trucks have your GM trucks have Multimatic dampers. Yes of course
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and so do the Formula 1 cars. And then the most important thing here hopefully I don't get
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murdered for this look at that it's a manual transmission but Roman take a look at the
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linkage. Oh it's exposed and just beautiful look at that. So that's like from the day of the
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Spica and that's why the car is so rare or one of the things that makes it so rare now for those
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your audience probably looks at the front especially the unique front end and they say to themselves
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well the Valor they only made 110 of those and they brought a fraction to the US that is the case
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this one was made for their race driver and he wanted more of a sport version excuse me sorry
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sir um I just bumped into one of the Aston Martin guys they're not making a good impression
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so apparently one of the race drivers wanted a more sporting version of that so this is tuned
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differently and as such they based the the the series of cars on a heritage Aston Martin hence
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they're only making 38 of these they brought seven I think it's seven or 12 into the US this
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was the last one I think it was 12 it's 12 okay and they decided that they're going to
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demonstrate this car by shipping it around the dealers but someone here wrote a check and said
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no you're not saying what you know why that is moto man because uh everything here at the quail
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is about being one of one and this is the only jet black one of one yes that they've made and so
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you could see why somebody would be like hey I don't want my neighbor to have a jet black
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and that kind of answers the question of why would you spend 2.6 million dollars on a
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rebody vantage it's because no one else can have it yeah that's the point can I say something cool
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yeah this yeah this is machine guns the Aston Martin that's like 1-8 scale yeah look at the machine
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guns dude because we should get that for Tommy yes I think he is a little too old now for that
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so let's talk about what's next here we are in Ferrari land of course so this is registering as a
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percent of production of Ferrari f50s so Ferrari f50s they were one of the line of like Enzo type cars
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if you think of la Ferrari's Enzo's it started really with the 288 GTOs this car they only made
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349 of them it had a 739 horsepower engine and when they were new and get this from it we're talking
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like mid 80s these cars excuse me 475 thousand dollars and how much are they now that's that's
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where we find out I would tell you up until yesterday they were worth about three and a half million
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dollars each but these have been going up significantly in value over the past I want to see five years
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they've had a run all right so so let's call it four million right so four eight twelve sixteen
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twenty twenty four twenty eight thirty two thirty six forty forty four and then over here
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forty eight fifty two fifty six sixty and I'm not done counting and then let's not forget
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that we have f40s which are also worth about three million dollars yeah and I gotta say I'm more of a
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f I'm more of an f40 guy I just think it's a better looking car I don't I don't really love
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this air intake it looks like it looks like it's a giant you know nose and the nostrils I like the
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f40 a little bit better I think it's a little bit uh sexier you and I normally don't agree on
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these things but this is the one area I do agree with you so I won't give you crap for being
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old yeah I prefer this one I do too but out of all of them maybe these meeting these special edition
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like super duper Ferraris I still impartial the 288 GTL was this the last one that was built under
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Enzo Ferraris this was the last one built under Enzo Ferraris yeah so this is if you want yeah if
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you want the real Ferrabi yeah now let's look at today let's go over here oh look at this yeah
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oh my my so ferrari I feel like unfortunately got this going on here um we've got to make it
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through so these are fascinating because Ferraris they did these f40s f50s every like
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couple of years every like 10 years you had a car like this Porsche kind of did the same thing
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now the pace is so fast because they have different different uh derivations of these
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now they have like the f80 at the same time so the question is what would you do with your
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four million dollars to buy a car you know what I would do and I gotta say this is my
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generation I would buy the Testarosa over there I love Testarosa 85 over there no that one with
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you know that's a TR oh that's a 512 TR same same thing general thing yeah so where the Testarosa
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over there is that a Testarosa yeah so what's the difference between that well so they changed
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some body work they changed the output of the car this is where they had to change a number of
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the um safety equipment in this car so if you look unfortunately this one has those crazy
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belts remember the belts oh my god yeah yeah that's no forget that this was a small car manufacturer
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right out where this car was prior to that and it only has one mirror look you're only getting one
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mirror dude yeah my guess is this is a Euro market car if you look at this one here let's see
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here 86 wow well let me ask you this my learned friend um and we were kind of talking about this
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before we'll get we'll get to these cars in a second but why are Gallardo's like the id car right now
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why are Gallardo's so hot you know Doug has a Gallardo Matt has a Gallardo why no you're telling me to
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coontosh not a guy I'm sorry coontosh Gallardo is not the car no the coontosh Gallardo I just want
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to make a point about a Gallardo yeah so you know when he's depreciation yeah that's where the
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Gallardo at the bottom so this is the time they're only going to go up Gallardo's yeah so why are
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coontosh yeah that's a really good question let's actually go this way so we can see some of the
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race cars lined up sure um very good question I'll tell you why okay classic cars or really any car
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any art anything you never buy the actual item itself you're buying a story and when it comes to
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classic cars it's all a function of what did people covet when they were young and if you
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think about like 250 series Ferraris those guys are dying off doesn't mean those cars are going to go
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to zero but the value of 250 Ferraris are going down but coontosh is there those people now have
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disposable income they can afford a toy like that that's why they're going up in value so our
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Diablos and Mercilago is going to follow you think are they already Diablos already follow
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okay yeah yeah the mercies are they've bottomed out they're going up as well hey did you see
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the company here it's just over here actually uh that reimagines the Diablo have you seen that
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company yes right over here esoteric yeah let's go look at that yeah oh look there's a uh car in a
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box how yeah these these are actually my buddies from the airport yeah yeah these are my airport
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buddies they do this luxury rally club thing here and you can see some of the guys we'll
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make our way through here it's a corning zig yeah actually this guy is dutch and he owns a car
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called the donkavort and we're going to shoot his donkavort in about a month yes although he has bad
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taste in hats well it's very interesting i know what the donkavort is this guy really has been this
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guy was like employee number five at night yeah well that's still pretty amazing do you still wear
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the shoes of course yeah all right tell the audience what's your daily that's my daily i drive old
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cars every day okay well he literally i literally i have new cars that i don't like so i just drive
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old so what's your favorite hard to say but the one i'm actually rallied up here with was a 1952
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mercedes 220 now there's an old car yeah yeah actually it's a it's a uh completely uh what's called
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uh i'm spacing but it's super stiff it goes through curves really well all right let me
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i'll excuse let me get hard on you yeah what i guess you have a lot of cars tubular sorry
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but if you if you could only keep one car that you know i already so my my always questions
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says irv can say the same thing that the the my always thing is what's my favorite car they go
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no when everything goes to shit of course all the expensive cars disappear because you have to
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pay for shit so what'd be the last car i keep is exactly that car there you go yeah 52 mercedes
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okay thank you mr 20 thank you what you doing nike i was everything but i pretty much
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though i became the whole all the products that went into line i was the guy that made the
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final well you know about manufacturing in china yes a lot yeah no i didn't know 21 he's very like
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21 i got put in charge of a 30 000 person factory i just got out of college i go i have
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fucking no idea what i'm doing my boss goes neither do i good luck well it's nice meeting you
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okay buddy i'll see you back at the hangar all right let's keep going here wow that's uh
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some nikey royalty there that's he is nikey royalty he literally for those of you that know
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running yeah this guy used to run with steve pre-fontein really yeah oh yeah like that's kind
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of the world i still run by the way i still run but not as much as you can imagine i'm switched it
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up i now do the kickboxing oh interesting oh come on lancia 037 so here's another thing where the
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market's changing on these cars so back in the day i mean these were crappy old rally cars nobody
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wanted them so this is like pre outy quattro this was what they were going to be competitive
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against the world stage and rally the only problem was it was two-wheel drive was this was this when
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wrc was truly deadly i'd say so where people you know where people died and while this car is it
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basically is built on the bones of a basic lancia beta coop that's what this was the gato design
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but effectively they put this crazy engine in the back it just turned it into a monster
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of a car but then unfortunately outy came and ate their lunch with the all-wheel drive cars and
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they haven't done a lot since then i gotta say oh i'm sorry that was a hot take that hurts oh but
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it's kind of true isn't it that hurts can i point something out can i say something before you
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get off outy i want to make a hot take hot take i think that the r8 yeah was the high water
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for outy that's when that's when you know outy was really hitting hard do you realize that
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um you're right i think i hate to admit you're right but it's true isn't it and it's not just me
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telling you this the collector car market agrees yeah try look at the values of a 10 cylinder
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outy with a manual r8 with a manual oh before we go over here look at this this is special
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787 b the only laman winning monster i actually saw this i saw this in uh in japan i saw this
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car in japan in the mazda museum or at least a version of this they have two they built two of them
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the one that floats around mainly there's one like kind of a knockoff in the u.s the one in japan
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is the laman winning car that's the one i saw and i was there if you see it there's always the guy
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there is a guy that lives with it that sleeps next to it well it makes it never out of his
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sight can i show you the lfg oh before we do that let's go over here i wanted to point
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something out while we're here all right let's go so this is the beauty of the quail
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people think it's a snooty car show but look ferrari corvette and dotsons and then
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another 60s era ferrari of course this so look at what we've just shown you here we've shown you
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three and a half million or four million dollar ferrari's but then look a laman winning mazda
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and then dotsons that slayed these guys back in the 70s and then look the only chinese car
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here the karma remember the karma yeah and the dr guy from ferrari is now in karma that's
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how much life is changed come on let's go look at this guy the lfg which stands which stands for
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the mires banks and tuttle you know tuttle right there they do they reimagine portions in the
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uk yep and mires bought mires banks recently and so this is a flat six putting out 300 horsepower
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and it's the ultimate doom buggy really that's what we're looking at here that is beyond the ultimate
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doom buggy it is probably beyond the ultimate doom buggy you want to head over to conic zag or
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you want to keep going we can i don't know much about conic zag except that they're very quick
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so conic zag is an interesting business there are two companies here that have a very similar
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business model conic zag and singer yeah we'll continue a little bit later i don't know how to
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pronounce your check you should know how to pronounce that these guys basically are in their
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defense contracts they make money with a very high tech defense contracting and then they do
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this car business stuff on the side which i find fascinating and they do it to a level that is
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both art breaking barriers of technology but also look at some of the timelessness going on here
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like for example a carbon fiber arm for the wiper and then notice not a screen it's a gauge cluster
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yeah thank god huh it's very pegani-ish isn't it it's got a little bit of pegani to it and they're
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here by the way as well so roman i recently shot uh bugatti terbion yeah and they called
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terbion because it's basically that but built by a swiss watchmaker just watch it's a watch
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and it's it's made of rubies and sapphires and talk about timeless it is the most exquisite thing
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i've ever seen it's not here though i haven't seen a terbion here now the terbion is not here
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bugatti is here but the last run of their w16 is here the terbion is a v16 and it has
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three electric motors no turbochargers 1800 horsepower and the electric motors are made in
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house you can hear the race car starting up so we're about to start the award ceremony so if you
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look at the why the clocks we're at 240 this goes to about four o'clock and you and i have been here
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since what 88 30 yeah probably earlier i got here at seven seven wow yeah that was nice there's
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nobody here let's go over here okay get some ice cream is that where we're going want to get some ice
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cream let's get some ice cream oh come on look at this so i think it's a knockoff xj 13 so this
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was a jack war believe it or not let's see if it's real do you think it's you think it's a knockoff
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hey it's it's not real i didn't expect it to be real if it was real it'd be worth a hell of a lot more
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yeah so this was a super rare kind of project concept car i turned into a race car for jack war
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never really made it hold on this before you before you blow by this
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look at this i love these like a free turbo this is the mustang of the uk again the beauty of
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quail is you get these unusual cars set amongst super fancy cars and can we show them the other
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beauty of quail yeah what's that over here but what's the other beauty of quail oh yeah sir hey buddy
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andy good to see you so you guys don't know andy this is andy i'm not going to embarrass his
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father right now his father is like one of the grandfugas at kia and we met on a drive one time
20:41
it turns out his father is big into cigars and problematic bursadies that's a good way to describe
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your father yeah exactly okay thank you andy okay buddy yeah all right so let's go look at this this is
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the other reason why you want to come to quail do you want some ice cream no i want to keep going
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let's keep going okay so i want to show you something super cool all right so look check this out
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so you know i'm a Porsche guy yeah but i'm more about design tactile feel color and trim
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look at the color and trim of this the wood is not just on the dash and the doors it's on the back
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of the seats very uh nautical themed oh i'm surprised it's not wood back here i'm you and me both i do like
21:24
the rear of the vanquish a bit better than the dv-12 and then you have this over here which is
21:32
it's basically a spaceship made of carbon fiber this one has an upgraded carbon fiber in terms
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of the tub that it's made of basically a race car it is a race car yeah i'm not gonna tell you
21:42
i can take my hand off what aston martin is doing it's a tough slog to compete against germans
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and with these cars still trouble but the fact that they're doing these one-offs
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i think that's the way forward so what is this one called
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it's not the velhalla is it no that's the velhalla is a little bit different
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there's no name on it's it's so one of one that they they don't even have a name on it
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is there a name on the back
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velhalla like so i said it was the velhalla yeah all right uh-huh roman gets one right okay roman
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gets one right you know after i called the uh kuntars de gardo i kind of i hope i kind of uh yeah
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came back strong all right let's keep let's keep going let's see what else there is
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you know i this is my first time here and i am dbx over here by the way and i am amazed
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i was just a good wood and there are a lot a lot of cars there but this kind of even out
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good wood good wood because i mean over here bugatti i want to show you we can look at that
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it's just a mod scene right now i like the dog in the purse like a that's a real purse dog
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that's another thing about the monster eight peninsula for car week you're going to see a
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lot of dogs and louis futon bags so a couple of things to point out here
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a lot of unique details in the car you like the horse in the horse park i'm not in the horse
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but something bugatti's have been doing as of late these sky view routes so they do this as an option
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and they did it in the charon they're doing it in this kind of one off and they're also doing
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it in the terbion so the terbion the doors the way they open it'll actually open up the
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airiness it's like i gave you a little bit of bugatti trivia sure you see this elephant yeah right
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there yeah you know where that comes from tell us so a tori bugatti had a brother who was a sculptor
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yes i'm definitely he sculpted that awesome so there you go we'll actually comments below
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who was the famous artist that was really related to a tori i don't know who no i put it in the
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comment we'll put it in the school yeah all right so we were talking about realm will send you
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his media pass as a gift we're talking about over here i gotta show you car well hold on we got
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reimagined uh Lamborghini right then we'll show you another car so does this look familiar to you
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looks very familiar yes tell us what it is it's a Lamborghini that's been reimagined um and
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it's a it's before the mercy was before the mercy of diablo it's a reimagined diablo
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talking about the market has already gone up on regular diablo so i think this is odd that
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they're doing this whole singer thing but then again everyone's doing the singer thing because they saw
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that the great success that they've made with horses that are reimagined it's a modern day
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i have to say that's very good wood that's very good yes all right what what did you want
24:47
to do well let's go over here and check out a car it's not a near and dear to me okay let's go
24:50
check it out are we looking at no Bentley it's old Bentley a blower Bentley it's not a blower Bentley
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it's a 28 four and a half liter but it's no longer wow okay pass that music we gotta keep away for the
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music dude yeah oh again it's right there so i can't do that those speakers are so loud
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you're gonna have to cut that anyway yeah look there's a joebie do me a favor you're gonna
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have to cut the Valhalla and i screwed up the dates on me on the Ferrari so say the dates
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the dates are mid 90s i said mid 80s that's all right yeah we're all human we make mistakes
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oh you want to hear something near and dear to us the joebie do you know who works for this guy no
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who eric adams remember eric adams car rider extraordinaire he was a front device with
25:39
going all the trips he now works for this joebie company yeah well they're building an electric
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air taxi basically a drone oh here come in just again here we go that's a great shot rome
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okay as a pilot yeah i can officially tell you that was highly illegal what they just did but i love it
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and let's the rule of airspace yeah you what they did you can only do what's called echo
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airspace meaning you have to be at least 500 feet above people animals and structures so they were
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definitely lower than 500 feet so here's a celeste you like the design of this thing you know what i
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like the concept of it but i don't like the execution that it's a hatchback it's kind of a
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funny looking car isn't it i love the proportions i would have loved it more if it was some sort of
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like a 12-cylinder plug-in hybrid oh my god this music our timing with the music is just terrible
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i get it the deaths are coming yeah i get it you want to stop no we can keep going don't worry
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these mics are pretty good just keep away from the black speakers and speaking of a singer there's
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i think we picked the very worst time to do this yeah the bird almost got in the formation
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well at least they're going to hear some kenny loggins
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i hope it works what do you think of gunther you know what from an engineering they're actually
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not far from me in huntington beach yeah from an engineering point of view i think they do a
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great job in terms of them against the singer i like the the the reinterpretation singer does more
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than these guys do well these guys are a little bit more like performance oriented and singer is more
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classic it's more than that yeah come here i'm gonna show you oh yeah
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like look at the interior of this car that's not performance only that has high arc the details
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of the carbon five basically a reinterpretation of a rikaro seat with a carbon fiber literally
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structure and then they put these beautiful leather details in it and then they have a carbon fiber
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reinterpretation of the dash why do you think they're they just let anybody in while we're working
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right now yeah keep working okay sir right nick is waiting to go i know okay so you know all
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right let's keep going let me ask you this oh no man why so why is there this renaissance of
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these reinterpreted you know 911s lamborghini's right why is why is why is why is all this happening
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though is it just a lot of tech bro money well the answer is not really about cars the answer
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there's a lot of dollars chasing fuel resources yeah so you have these cars people like for example
28:41
you could buy this right and then a sex like a hundred is for 80 to 100 grand okay exactly or
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you could buy like a one-off 911 that you decided to create completely on your own by the way this is
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a new hour of sex what do you think i think they go again yeah i got it oh look at these guys wow
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yeah i think these mirrors will never make it into production that's what i think now
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yeah i don't know why designers love those little camera mirrors tell me what you see here
29:12
uh i see no grill what am i supposed to see the lotus and uh electric electric the electric
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like the old buke electric yeah exactly yeah i see the electric you're right so back to what we're
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saying it's too few too many dollars chasing too few resources and granted that's i think we're
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going to start changing that in the system as the economy changes as excuse me most importantly
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as economic policy changes that's really what's going on here i also think you know we start this
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by saying one of one i think people just want the one thing that nobody else can have i think there's
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there's a sense of that right now so these are the new mires mangs yeah so these things they come
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at a couple of different flavors this is the electric model here they just introduced this
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like four cedar one over here and then you probably know matt this is matt's car he bought
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this i watched him hey various i literally watched him place the order last year in this very spot with
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jennifer flake no exaggeration and for those that don't know jennifer flake very good friend she ran
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board comms for many years is he a mangs now she was the ceo of mangs yes okay so she bought the car
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from her and it was delivered six days ago he trailered it with a bentley bentega up here
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and it was at motor looks what's up i'm so sorry i was so distracted i was i'm being a bad friend
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we're on camera right now you want to tell us a little bit about the car for the record i was at
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motor looks very distracted i was a bad friend to you i was rude to you you weren't but your wife
30:40
was nice to me well she does that she backs me up i was in such like a brazil distracted so you
30:46
can make it up to me about having a cigar yes laner i've gotten what i have i've got two cigars
30:50
under that blanket for the rollout for when i drive it out at the black pass that's the i get to
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drive a car off the lawn so i just told him the story that i watched you buy this car in front
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of jennifer flake last year is that true yeah 100 yes it's true and then you just got it six days
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ago but it's almost true because they tried to swipe my credit card for the 50 deposit here
31:10
and i said no i said look i'm i'm getting the car but i'll bring you i'll bring you check
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he pulled out the square reader i was like dude i can't even roll like that okay show us most i'm gonna
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give you the mic here take the mic okay come on show us the shift knob and tell us why it's important
31:26
i think hannah should probably do that because it's her hannah come here hannah give her the bike
31:31
hannah guess what this is the better hand sign the release this is my wife hannah my better half
31:38
this is really an accessory okay hannah feels very good tell george about the shift knob
31:44
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you as i'm sure like you know john hannah has a collection of hot dog iconography memorabilia
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in this bathroom speak into my neck yeah yeah and in our bat in this bathroom and it's like
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overflowing with hot dogs that won't go in there anymore well because there's no room for me to
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poo i've seen this i've seen this yeah you've been there yeah so so but what happens is when
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people find out that you have a collection of things they then start getting you more of that
33:30
thing and just spirals out which is great on every level and so brenda who is in charge of styling at
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banks learned about hannah's hot dog thing and so we have the decay of hot dog shift which is she
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made it unsolicited yeah no that's not true we talked with her about it but it was her idea
33:46
and the best part about the whole thing was like the prototyping that had to happen and like
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sometimes there was air bubbles around the hot dogs and it was just brenda in her kitchen at night
33:56
trying new and different things it was amazing super cool and so cool yes you know hannah's right like
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we did talk about it it wasn't totally unsolicited but the final product that was the bouquet of hot
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dogs was her creation that was her admission yeah one hot dog in there but we did get surprises
34:12
like literally hannah wanted heated seats and i wanted sport bucket seats and those are not the
34:18
same thing yeah and they've literally surprised us by doing the very first heated sport bucket seat
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for hannah so we didn't even ask them to get a check for it when they sell them
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well that you better get the microphone so that there's that which no i won't get a check but
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we did get them for free but but we did i'm getting i'm gonna get a royalty for the matt
34:39
farah dead pedal which i had them make because they had the floor high beams which suck so i
34:46
said dead pedal trigger high beam is what i want and they and now they're offering that as a thing for
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other people you can afford the cigar so i can afford the cigar i'm going to get to thank you
34:56
dude thanks man thank you but we didn't eat the engine the engine the radio you guys you guys
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are talking about the radio engine look yeah we have an airplane engine and you know most people
35:07
who buy a manx they start with a love for like volkswagons or something right and this is just
35:13
an extreme version of that i i approach this from the radio engine backwards i don't really care that
35:19
much about volkswagons it's to the point where i would buy a volkswagen powered manx but this
35:24
is a totally different thing this is the ab geek special ah it's crazy and so it's a three cylinder
35:29
two liter radio it's a hundred and fifty horsepower 170 torque it's a billet uh block and a billet
35:36
uh Australia radio motion is the company in Australia but manx owns them now so it has the
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fins but it's water cooled the radiator is behind here and uh it runs mo tech it's got a four speed
35:49
Porsche gearbox and all kinds of good good stuff right yeah i can't thank you so thank you guys we'll
35:54
catch you up later i'm going to go to the Porsche party tonight sam and uh fire pits tomorrow
35:59
okay i'll be at fire pits all right there you go okay there you go you got it from the
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horse's mouth he said uh that they wander on the credit card and that's because as cute as they are
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they're north of a hundred thousand if you get the radio engine pretty much yeah it is the most
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expensive one it's yeah i mean once upon a time you would buy the manx uh fiberglass body
36:20
you would get a volkswagen speedless donor car just get away from that by that speaker yeah yeah
36:26
and then you would build it yourself and now of course it's become a lifestyle vehicle
36:30
which is fine but yeah you gotta have money so that's what i was saying about it's two a lot of
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dollars chasing too few resources and these guys i think hit it perfectly kind of at the tail end
36:46
of all that money in the in the financial system and so they early on they sold a lot of cars
36:51
i don't know what they're doing right now that's the big question now we have a surprise before you
36:56
go this is oh you wanted to see this uh ring brothers asked martin so ring brothers yeah so the ring
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brothers are a company out of wisconsin where i used to work as a tv reporter uh they're known for
37:05
going to see me i didn't know that about you yeah we're in wisconsin i lived in jamesville uh and
37:10
they're known they're known for building incredibly kind of like liberty walk in japan right so they're
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known for these incredibly beautiful seama builds but they decided to do a like a 70s astin this is a
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huge departure it is departure yeah they do buicks and camaros well they do mustangs and yeah exactly
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now they've done this and it is absolutely gorgeous i mean look look at this it's it's you know it's
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completely it's like a single level build it's like a single level build and what i love about it
37:38
is the temptation would be to put screens but you smell it look at the interpretation of the
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astin martin logo yeah that is i love it can you smell the leather i can smell oh my god no
37:50
exactly look at where i'm standing yeah i can literally smell the leather yeah i can also smell
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the cigars i know you can smell the cigars yes the two go hand in hand thank you i love it i love it
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so yeah i just say hi again good to see you again good job man i love that cool thank you hey guys
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russle dad sorry we're behind the scenes here yes oh we're gonna be online you're on russle
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we're recording many years uh vulva he basically put vulva on the map so when they when they basically
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reinterpreted vulva's modern day xc 90 2014 15 this is the man that that introduced it to the us
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knows that right and more importantly i appreciate that corporate plug and you know check is in the
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mail more importantly because of him i got to spend the night in the ice hotel yeah that was fun
38:37
what yeah that was that was my coup de gras that was it he's also a great friend but it's
38:42
like a little story behind the scenes when i was in the hospital after i got mowed down by a tesla
38:47
we're both from new york he brought me some pastrami on right and matzo balls and matzo
38:52
he's like my jewish no no matzo ball no matzo ball soup just a matzo ball yeah just a matzo ball
38:57
all right what else is there what else is there true that okay here we got the pagani of course
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the huayra huayra and um yeah yeah these are different so these are so rare same with the
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kooning sector they're so rare well they're like four of them here there's like eight of them here
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dude but how rare can that be because this is the official used car dealership like this is the
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certified pre-owned pagani dealership so how much is it pre-owned huayra i don't even know where
39:24
do you start three and a half million four million dollars something like that do you know
39:26
when these blew up when top gear profiled them yeah nobody knew what a huayra was i love
39:30
setting huayra but the beauty of these things you're buying something so rare and it's it could
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be sold anywhere in the world it's kind of like a blue chip investment so we're we're talking about
39:42
too many dollars chasing too few resources yeah this is like a goal there's just enough
39:49
to satisfy the world demand i kind of feel like these guys parked the cars the wrong way
39:55
am i wrong i'm not wrong am i well i mean if you're greek you like it that way yeah yeah
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oh well i'm greek wait a minute you are greek yeah oh okay wait wait wait you got some no no no look
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left what's your take on this oh god this is the new jaguar double o concept how are you
40:14
sir i saw it in miami did you buy the case the master car i think you know what a good word the
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guy said the same thing you're the second person say that you guys are classy guys thank you sir thank you
40:33
okay all right so double o concept wow we were about to say negative things no i'm not saying
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negative i like it so here's the thing let me show it i said on camera when the car came out i went
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to the launch in miami you got to see it in person to understand yeah when you see it in person you
40:49
understand the proportions and i want to clarify something here go down on record everybody like
40:54
you look on the internet pretty crap on jaguar they only sold like three cars in all of 2025
41:02
the whole prop the whole focus was we were going to stop building cars do i think that was
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the right thing to do no i think you should have kept building cars had something in the entrance to
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sell until you do this so you know jerry mcgovern is you know head of design for jlr yes and he's done
41:17
the latest range rover he's done the defender he's a very talented designer very talented designer
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and he did this i think to a large extent and i like this my only complaint a very simple complain
41:27
is showers they completely like cut the heritage off right there's you can't draw a line from
41:33
like an e type or i would agree to this there's nothing there's there's a chasm between this and
41:38
they're and that's a shame there's a cup come on over here there's a couple of things going on here
41:43
number one i think it's a great interpretation of proportions there's crazy width and there's
41:49
crazy look at this dash to axle so that's how much space between the foot compartment and the rear
41:55
of the of the wheels now that's what changes the proportions the thing i spoke with jerry the
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chief designer's car when he launched it the one thing he said that is definitely two things he said
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it's coming to production the wheels both size and design as well as the proportions now between us
42:13
chickens he was telling me it's really going to be like a five door now the question is is it going
42:18
to continue to be a full electric car what do you think uh you know jaguar just replaced her
42:24
long-standing ceo with the cfo from tata which is a parent company and i think uh as a guy who
42:32
probably counts pennies and sees which way the wind is blowing i think they'll do the same thing
42:37
that Porsche is doing and other the manufacturers are doing and that's back off the electric
42:42
and put some kind of a electric put some kind of a non-electric engine like like you know like
42:46
like the charger right same thing they're gonna put in dodge was smart enough to engineer
42:52
that program to accept an engine the question is did they engineer this to accept the gas engine
42:58
probably not because they were my guess is that's what they're working on now yeah they were all
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in on electric right the other huge piece that i would share with you yeah they're coming to
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the market too late by the time that comes to market in 27 which is what they told us it's
43:14
coming that car will be competing against a totally new generation of Mercedes electrics
43:22
which are going to be fantastic hey we got come over here morgan one of my favorites
43:30
this is a morgan plus four now you're looking at roman and i saying that looks like any other
43:35
plus what it came before it that is where you are wrong this is no longer a steel frame and a
43:42
wood a steel chassis in a wood frame this it's now all wood it's an aluminum tub i'm kidding
43:48
it's literally built like a modern day like a corvette i like the three-wheeler better nope we just
43:53
shot an episode tell roman you want the episode yeah tell roman you want the episode with nathan
43:59
of the three-wheeler anyway this is a whole aluminum tub did you guys go on like a date
44:06
the three-wheeler no he did a comparison of that with the Polaris and this was so much better
44:12
i can see you guys going to a we had a great time driving diner we did go to a concert together
44:17
true story totally went to a concert nathan wants the cheeseburger and our great
44:24
his wife and my girlfriend ditched us all right hey so this is now it's a it's an aluminum tub
44:30
has a BMW engine you gotta wait for the speakers this is my favorite car here it's an off-road
44:34
911 if you we have to get to the i'm going to show you a favorite if you want to more if you
44:38
want to know more about this head on over to all tfl i did a complete video on it and we're
44:43
heading to work or can i show you something cool of course this electric link in future going oh
44:47
forget that the link in future this is one of our neighbors down at the airport yeah so this car
44:52
comes to the airport all the time it's like the batmobile because it was the batmobile yeah
44:56
this is the car that george barris took and made into the batmobile this is the link
45:00
in future a concept so come over here now this one's been reinterpreted a little bit it's got a
45:07
totally different updated interior but you can still see the link engages over there cool it's way
45:12
cool look at the size of this uh is it a trunk what's under there look at these exhaust holes oh my
45:19
god supposedly that was where the jet engine for the batmobile went okay but you can see the
45:24
the atom west batmobile here all right now come over here we have a surprise for you guys gtr skyline
45:30
over there which by the way i'm bonafide collectible cars let's go this way yeah we gotta go to the
45:35
corvette oh here's the speaker it's gonna get loud again all right let's walk by this
45:42
all right let's go look at the corvette stand
45:43
okay so two weeks anybody that follows my show knows i go to the cars in my yard to party in
45:58
detroit every year and i have a very good friend who is the chief designer of chevrolet his name is
46:05
philzak and he was there and he's like are you going to quail and i said yes he says i'm bringing
46:10
something special not this however this is special this is the 1959 stingray concept this was designed
46:17
by none other than peter brock the same guy that raced those gothsons we saw earlier so basically
46:23
he's the one that brought out the concept of what became the c2 well come on over here let me show
46:29
you look at the interpretation of that design in now a concept car that will become
46:44
i'm not going to say a c9 come here let me show you something else
46:48
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we're not live we're just recording what's nice to see you man how are you this is the one
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and only forest house i thought you hate first of all congratulations on my new kid number three
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number three is on the way yeah i'm glad you know that thank you for having me of course
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of the glasses oh the medical glasses they're dead so they don't do anything oh five hours
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they don't last that long do they yeah the video is awful the pictures are okay
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and the battery life is super short so like i have to see you hold on yeah go ahead you say it
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again the battery life is short the video is awful it's 720p and dropped in
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let's see the podcast yeah let's go back to work it's worth everyone this guy he was like this he was
49:11
just like he's 12 years old now he's grown up he's a fairy i was the same size he is not okay so he was
49:17
in texas back there i've known him since he was like before the hair i think but you know before
49:22
the kids now he's an old man before i had long hair me and me and him go way back we went to
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japan together with his lovely wife by the way yeah that japan trip was awesome exactly that's
49:33
right we went to the underground car meet they got like shut down yeah that was so cool so cool yeah
49:37
there for like a whole 10 minutes yeah it was like being in a fast and furious movie and lexus took
49:41
us there out of all people and i know they are the ones they are the ones who like were like
49:45
let's go yeah it wasn't even us and it was roman that ruined it for everybody right it was it was
49:49
he was like being super obvious and the cops were like no you know how to get rid of people in
49:54
japan they just turn the sirens on and just keep him on right they get on for like 45 minutes
50:00
you guys are lucky the yakuza didn't come and deal with your ass the yakuza oh it's not like japanese
50:04
mafia yeah we just showed our age there all right okay get back to work for us all right bye so look
50:11
at this and what i was showing you was it's not a c9 this is an interpretation of what could be the
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c10 and cx get it get it so take a look at the daylight opening what they've done here is they've
50:23
made it like remember the aero vet back in the day in the 73 aero vet that's what they've
50:28
interpreted this one is all electric this one is all electric it's got a clam shell that opens up
50:33
here and you climb into it and the pedals and the steering wheel go forward and backward to let you in
50:38
and out of the car that car is not electric that car is a plug-in hybrid race car that has three
50:45
electric motors and they get this a 2 liter v8 16 000 rpm and then check this out
50:59
so what they've done with the diffuser look at how far the diffuser goes down there
51:03
so this is something they've stolen from the 4.6 million dollar bugatti terbion where they put
51:10
the diffuser in here for downforce so on the street car it doesn't need the wing in order to
51:17
create a higher top speed so two cool things you said 2 liter v8 right 2 liter v8 piston is
51:23
going to be like that big yeah and i like this no step yeah that's your favorite thing yeah let's show
51:29
them that you want to come on over here but i just want you to me come here hold on a second
51:33
this is the coolest car guy in the world this is carman tell them the kind of car you drive
51:37
and doing a vmw 335 yeah but you've done some stuff to it you're in a video right now yeah
51:42
i drive a nearly 600 horsepower vmw 335 uh it's a printed twin turbo it's on uh it's about to be on
51:51
cool ethanol uh port injection basically everything else cool bolt on now why is carman so cool she
51:58
is cool because what did your dad do for a living uh he flew planes he flew 747s all right
52:04
it was a helo pilot nice meeting you i gotta get it on track again in vietnam yeah i gotta get
52:09
it on track he's not fun okay we'll talk later come on yes thank you bye okay come here yeah okay
52:15
roman doesn't like that i was trying to give you guys i'm trying to keep you not being pervy
52:19
dude that's what i'm trying to do okay here we go this is the racing okay let me get stepped
52:26
this you see this here yeah it looks like by the way i love your watch was that love the watch
52:31
oh thank you this is carbon fiber but the whole concept of the racing this isn't a
52:37
some like high in the sky like design deal what they've done here is they've tested this with
52:43
their racing team in north carolina so it's not just something that is oh my god this is what we
52:48
could make the car look like this is all based on what kind of top speeds they could hit
52:53
and this actual arm here can create some balance
52:59
let's show them a car that you can actually buy well if you can't but you supposedly could
53:03
so this is uh this is the z r1 x the quail silver limited edition over here
53:14
that's the quail edition that's the quail edition yeah
53:16
pretty cool yeah so um 100 and uh $217,000 an ounce of price and it just set the American
53:26
production car number record so question for you yeah do you think that's too much money
53:32
no no compared to a gtd which is going to be twice that that's not too much gtd sticker wise is not
53:38
going to be twice it's like they're like 350 so 150 more and it's a little slower at least
53:45
around the number ring until they do it what do you think of this the one-off one rivian
53:50
why would you want a one-off one electric car they sold it for 175 i don't think that's a good
53:55
investment no probably not no but you know it went to a charity yeah so something important here um
54:02
back to that zero one x yeah spend some time talking with phil and i asked him i said are you
54:07
guys going to limit these cars are you going to make a numbered edition here it's like
54:11
actually technically they're not limited edition but they are supply constraint so basically you
54:17
know how concrete how cumbersome it is to build the engines in those cars yeah so instead of being
54:23
able to say we're going to make 500 they're limited by how many of the engines they can build by hand
54:28
in bull and green katalki okay and then here's your Lamborghini yeah we're talking about the
54:35
so i drove a can't you can't see out of it yeah you can't fit in i don't think you can't back it up
54:43
you can't now the coil continues you can't do much with it yeah but i still love the judging process
54:48
by which i'm gonna i'm gonna another hot take okay hot day here we go so this is the prototypical
54:57
Lamborghini right this is what established the dna of the brand no that was the mirror as many
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yeah the mirror was a little bit less over the top right this was this was like over the top
55:08
yeah supercar design features but at the time they were a little douchey which is a you know a word
55:16
for my generation all right but like the williams if you were class across the stage if you were
55:22
like you know really into wearing gold chains and turned up collars this would be the car you
55:27
would have bought back in the day see this is this is where i disagree right there because i think there
55:32
are two there's a tale of two kuntas okay tell me there's this one the 80s which people associate
55:39
with mani vices yeah which you just described yeah so you're not wrong however there is also what's
55:45
called a periscope car now people think of my mani vices think a car like this it's a he had a Ferrari
55:52
but the idea was all right the contemporary of the Ferrari but there was also adam hello adam
56:00
hello adam he's busy filming yeah uh he was he was the running marketing director of the
56:07
peterson for many many many years cool anyway so the periscope was a totally different car periscope
56:12
didn't have any of this bodywork no wing and it had like almost a tunnel in the roof where instead
56:20
of having a rear view mirror you look for a periscope to see the back of the car that car looks very
56:27
different than this even though the body's the same now the haggarty choice foundation is the 70s
56:32
that's the one i think is timeless yeah i agree but so they've got different Lamborghinis here right
56:38
but they're all kind of the same same job right except that one which doesn't have the wing
56:44
look at how much more mature this looks that car how different original mechanical
56:49
all right let's let's wrap this up here we've been going almost an hour you want to wrap up on
56:54
nsxt and astin martin all right well we start with astin wouldn't it be fitting to finish with
57:00
astin i think so yeah yeah especially like the muscle car astin martin yeah the james bond
57:06
astin martin or late james bond yeah this isn't uh v8 james tennessee dolton matt astin martin
57:14
actually we should be the one the question what's your favorite james bond car
57:18
doesn't have to be an astin martin yeah yeah it's a seven series being i'm kidding
57:26
oh wait a minute we end on that oh we got to show him a tippo 33 oh i don't know anything about the
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tippo oh my god look at this the interior of this car is worth the extra time we're all
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so alfa Romeo does have a stand here which is cool oh they had the standing with this car this
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is one of these kind of like one-offs they're made you know don't quote me on this i think
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they're making 30 of them yeah it's like 2.7 million dollars oh my god it's effectively a
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maserati it's an mc20 with a stunning body well first of all it's got this beautiful uh what's
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what's the ferrari red it's rosso corsa right that's the ferrari red rosso corsa but what's the
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what's the red i don't know what the alpha color is but that is the same red you saw on the
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eight c which was also a special car back in the day and you know what here's a top tip
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in the collector car market believe it or not you lost money if you bought one of those cars new
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i heard the eight c i heard the eight c doesn't drive well but you know what that's that's garbage
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it's actually it's it doesn't drive as well as the modern day ferrari or the contemporary ferrari
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yeah but when you consider that it's more rare than the contemporary ferrari that's all right let me
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ask you this before you show me interior yes what color does that remind you of a meata color
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oh crystal red crystal crystal solid yeah crystal solid metallic and you save yourself
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2.65 million oh the interior is gorgeous but look at the details number one look at how
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this is exactly out of the original tip road but then everything we have a screen yes there and
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they have a screen yes there but look they still render the gauges almost mechanically on each
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side of the ip and then there's toggle switches on the top over the driver like an airplane
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or like a raptor or a bugatti turbion which this is half the price yeah yeah or any osprey
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dear yeah very cool you had one i had one did you lose money on that uh you know we probably lost
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we i think you paid like 82 for it and we ended up selling it for like 75 that's not bad so but
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we only had it for two months we made all that sweet and we made all that sweet and that's right
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yeah all that sweet and then uh it's kind of the same effective power what do you do what is it with
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alfa romeo how can they can build this and then the same company comes out you know and does their
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crossovers you know i've got an answer that's not fact it's just my interpretation yeah i think this
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is the vision of one person and the alfa romeo is a vision of many different people in many
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different boardrooms in many different countries yeah that is the problem with stilantis they
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i mean too many brands go in too many different directions i mean the tunale you know i know what
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i mean oh and i didn't say the other word that a lot of americans are thinking right they didn't
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like do any research like hey yeah you know it might sound a little bit like something else that's on
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your front isn't a weird name it's a very strange name and the stilvio is okay right actually fun
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fact what does revuelto mean isn't a bowl fighting ball right every Lamborghini it's a fighting bowl
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that means agitated but what they didn't realize it also means scrambled eggs in spanish
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oh and um tunale and uh what's the other one uh can't think of it now stilvio right those are
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named after italian mountain passes mountain passes yes it's unfortunate it's unfortunate because
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it's a great brand and i'd love someone to be a better steward of it but here's a big question
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for you yeah even let's say for the sake of discussion tomorrow toyota bought it not that
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they would but let's say they did and they threw their resources at it do you think there's enough
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of a market outside of bmw mercedes and outie that people would consider a good alpha you know
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marcione mark you know the old ceo stilantis he said there were three brands that were crucial
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crucial to the company it was jeep it was uh what was the other one alfa male was one of them
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and i think it was ram i think those were the three brands so yeah alfa male is worldwide it's well
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yeah formula one but they just can't seem to get like their mojo back from pre-war it's because they
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have too many things going on it's kind of like do you remember maybe that's why ferrari left uh
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left alfa male right that was to float the company and make money that was that was a money grab
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all right i think he did well do you remember alan malally back in the day at florida yeah i remember
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he came in and she probably shouldn't go that close let's turn around yeah um he came in and
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famously said we're selling all these brands what do you think of this i love this yeah this is a
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visceral experience so he came in ferrari it was a brand it was alfa male ferrari and jeep were the
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three iconic brands that at that time i see him so marcione came in he he was focusing on things
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but alan malally at ford a decade not a decade prior he came in in uh when the company still had
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the premier automotive group and they were selling winkins and astin martin's and land rovers and he
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said you know what we're getting rid of all the extraneous brands we're only focusing on two
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lincoln and ford and people looked at him like are you crazy turns out the smartest thing he could
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have done because he focused yeah the other thing he did which was smart was uh he uh you know
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said one ford one world one car you know so he built the same car for europe the focus
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the fiesta uh and got rid of the kind of those kind of clumsy like the tourists right these cars that
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were just old school american that didn't resonate anymore and unfortunately you know we're kind of
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back to that now in some ways at ford especially companies like bmw they sliced the pie so much
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so much but now they're starting to roll it back whether because you don't need a two series
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grant to pay yeah exactly it's too much so basically we thought we'd start talking about cars but
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