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Car
Chrysler New Yorker
The Chrysler New Yorker is a car model name from Chrysler. It’s generally known as a larger, more comfortable sedan. The podcast mentions it as a reference point, not as a detailed car review.
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a sports car made by Porsche. It’s famous for being fast and for having a very recognizable design. People talk about it a lot because it’s one of the most well-known performance cars.
Car
Dodge Ram
The Dodge Ram is a pickup truck made by Dodge. Pickup trucks are typically used for carrying cargo and towing. The podcast mentions it in a playful way rather than as a technical topic.
Car
Renault Twingo
The Renault Twingo is a small car made for city driving. It’s designed to be easy to park and maneuver. People sometimes look for older ones because they’re compact and practical.
Car
Hyundai Ioniq
The Hyundai Ioniq is Hyundai’s line of electric cars. Some versions are SUVs or hatchbacks, and they run on electricity. People talk about it because it’s one of Hyundai’s main EV offerings.
Company
Cox Automotive
Cox Automotive is a company that collects lots of car-market data. Here, they’re used as a source for how used-car prices are changing over time.
Term
Manheim vehicle index
The Manheim vehicle index is a widely watched number that tracks used-car prices. It’s based on real market transactions, so people use it to see whether prices are rising or falling.
Term
used car market
The used car market is the market for cars that people are selling after they’ve already owned them once. The host is saying prices there are going up.
Car
Honda Fits
The Honda Fit EV is a small electric hatchback made by Honda. It uses an electric motor instead of a gas engine. Because it wasn’t sold widely, fewer of them exist today.
Term
tax credit
A tax credit is a government incentive that reduces the amount of tax you owe, often used to make certain purchases cheaper. Here, the host links the end of the EV tax credit to lower new EV sales and higher used EV prices.
Term
registered
“Registered” means the car was officially recorded for road use. The host is using those numbers to talk about which EVs were most common.
Car
Tesla Model Y
The Tesla Model Y is an electric SUV made by Tesla. It runs on electricity instead of gas. It’s a popular model, so people often compare it to other Tesla cars.
Car
model three
The Tesla Model 3 is an electric sedan. In this moment it’s brought up briefly as a comparison point to the Model Y.
Car
Model X
The Tesla Model X is an electric SUV. They’re saying it’s being discontinued and wondering how many were still sitting unsold when production and sales wrapped up.
Car
Tesla Model S
The Tesla Model S is an electric car made by Tesla. It’s a larger sedan compared with smaller EVs. People mention it because it’s one of Tesla’s main models and often ranks highly in EV sales.
Car
Ford F-150 Lightning
The Ford F-150 Lightning is an electric pickup truck. They’re using it as an example of an EV that sold well enough to be in the top registrations for the quarter.
Car
Honda Prologue
The Honda Prologue is an electric SUV made by Honda. It’s the kind of vehicle people buy when they want an SUV but powered by electricity. The podcast brings it up because of how it’s been selling and how much inventory is available.
Term
badge engineering
Badge engineering is when two cars are basically the same underneath, but one is sold under a different brand name. It’s like changing the logo and some details instead of redesigning the whole car.
Car
Honda S2000
The Honda S2000 is a small two-seat sports car made by Honda. It’s known for feeling lively when you rev the engine. People mention it because it’s a classic, enthusiast-style roadster.
Car
Mazda MX-5 / Miata
The Mazda MX-5 (Miata) is a small two-seat convertible made by Mazda. It’s designed to feel quick and easy to drive, especially on twisty roads. People talk about it a lot because it’s a classic, simple sports car.
Term
plug-in hybrids
A plug-in hybrid is a car with both a gas engine and an electric motor. You can charge it by plugging it in, and it can drive some distance on electricity alone.
Term
phebs
They’re talking about PHEVs—plug-in hybrid cars. The idea is that these cars might be the best deal for some people if gas prices stay high.
Term
oil crisis
They mean a situation where oil/gas becomes much more expensive or harder to get. They’re saying that could make plug-in hybrids save people more money.
Term
revolutionary defeatism
It’s an idea in politics where someone thinks a war is so wrong that they’d rather their side lose than keep fighting. It usually comes with strong opposition to their own government’s war choices.
Term
man pad
A “man pad” is a small missile launcher that a person can carry and fire at aircraft. It’s designed to shoot down planes from the ground.
Term
f a 18
“F/A-18” is the name of a military fighter jet used by the U.S. Navy and Marines. It can be used for different kinds of missions, including fighting other aircraft and attacking targets on the ground.
Car
Mitsubishi Eclipse
Mitsubishi’s Eclipse is a model name that’s existed for a long time. The host is saying some Eclipse versions were more exciting, while later ones felt more like a normal crossover.
Concept
nameplate electrifying it
This phrase means using the same car name, but making it electric. The host is basically saying that bringing back a famous name is good, but only if the new car feels like the old one people loved.
Term
lazy crossover
The host is using “lazy crossover” as a criticism. They mean a crossover that feels more like an easy everyday car than a fun, sporty one.
Concept
heritage
“Heritage” here means the car’s history and reputation. The host is saying the new EV is trying to connect to the Eclipse’s past, even if it doesn’t feel as exciting as the older cars.
Car
Nissan Leaf
The Nissan Leaf is one of the most common electric cars. The host is basically saying the Mitsubishi EV looks too similar to the Leaf instead of feeling like its own distinct vehicle.
Car
eclipse sportback EV
This is a Mitsubishi electric version of the Eclipse Sportback name. The host is saying it doesn’t feel very different from other electric cars and looks like it’s borrowing heavily from what already exists.
Term
lighting signatures
A lighting signature is the unique look of a car’s lights. It’s the pattern and shape that makes the car recognizable even from far away.
Car
Ferrari Luce
The host is making a visual comparison to Ferrari styling. They’re basically saying the car looks like it’s trying to copy a fancy, expensive design vibe.
Term
alloy wheels
Alloy wheels are car wheels made from a lightweight metal. They’re often used because they look nicer and can help the car feel a bit more responsive.
Term
subprime auto loan
A subprime auto loan is a car loan for people with lower credit scores. It often costs more because the lender is taking more risk.
Car
Dodge Challenger
The Dodge Challenger is a popular American muscle car. The host is using it as a comparison point in a joke about what kinds of cars you might see around certain places.
Term
subprime mortgage crisis
The subprime mortgage crisis was a major financial meltdown in the late 2000s caused by risky home loans. The host is using it as a backdrop for a joke about car-dealer financing and customer experiences.
Car
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
The Porsche 911 GT3 RS is a high-end, performance-focused Porsche. The host is making a joke that the only “happy” customer at that Mitsubishi dealer would be someone who accidentally ended up with a super serious track car like this.
Term
press release
A press release is an official statement from a company to media and the public. In automotive marketing, it often includes product plans, timelines, and sales/market claims that listeners may want to scrutinize for how the company is defining terms like “new car.”
Car
Mitsubishi Outlander
The Mitsubishi Outlander is a family SUV. Here, the hosts are talking about Mitsubishi planning a more off-road, rugged version of it.
Car
Nissan Z
The Nissan Z is a sports car made by Nissan. It’s meant to be fast and fun, and it has been around for many years. People mention it when talking about how the design changes from one generation to the next.
Car
Honda Civic
The Honda Civic is a common everyday car made by Honda. It’s usually chosen for being practical and efficient. People often mention it because many versions are easy to live with.
Car
Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross
The Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross is a compact SUV. The hosts reference a statistic claiming many people who looked at it ended up buying it.
Car
Mitsubishi Outlander Sport
The Mitsubishi Outlander Sport is a smaller SUV. The hosts mention it while quoting numbers about how many shoppers end up buying it.
Car
Mitsubishi Outlander Plug-in Hybrid
The Mitsubishi Outlander Plug-in Hybrid is an SUV that can be charged and driven on electricity sometimes. The hosts cite numbers about how many plug-in hybrid shoppers end up buying it.
Car
Nissan Versa
The Nissan Versa is Nissan’s budget-friendly compact sedan, often positioned as an affordable entry point. Here, the host uses it as a comparison to explain that Mitsubishi buyers are choosing Mitsubishi because they may not be able to afford a Versa.
Term
flexible financing arrangements
Flexible financing arrangements mean the dealer/lender offers payment plans that are easier to get approved for or easier to afford. The host is saying some brands are better at working with buyers who don’t have great credit.
Car
Mitsubishi Mirage
The Mitsubishi Mirage is a very inexpensive small car. The host is saying it was used to attract shoppers who needed the lowest price and wanted to avoid surprise repair bills.
Term
warranty
A warranty is a promise from the seller/manufacturer to pay for certain repairs for a period of time or miles. The host is saying that when people are worried about surprise repair bills, a warranty can make a cheaper car purchase feel safer.
Car
Ferrari 499P
The Ferrari 499P is a special race car made by Ferrari. It’s built for professional racing events, not for everyday driving. People talk about it because it’s part of Ferrari’s high-end motorsport program.
Car
Toyota Supra
The Toyota Supra is a sports car made by Toyota. It’s built to be fast and fun to drive. People talk about it because it’s a well-known performance model.
Brand
iRacing
iRacing is a racing video game/simulator that’s built around driving realistically. The speaker prefers it over a crash-only style game.
Term
suspension travel
Suspension travel is how much the suspension can “stretch” and “compress.” More of it helps the car handle big bumps or landings more safely.
Brand
Assetto Corsa
Assetto Corsa is a realistic driving simulator game. The speaker is saying it works better with a steering wheel controller.
Brand
Grand Turismo 7
Gran Turismo 7 is a PlayStation driving simulator known for car collecting and track racing. The speaker says they use it along with a track they like to “race the clock,” framing it as their go-to sim activity.
Brand
forza horizon 6
Forza Horizon is a racing video game series where you drive around and do events. The speaker is talking about a paid VIP membership for the next one.
Term
netcode
Netcode is the part of an online game that handles how players’ actions are sent and matched up over the internet. If it’s bad, the game can lag or misread collisions, so it feels like you’re getting blamed even when you didn’t do anything wrong.
Car
Dodge Viper
The Dodge Viper is a high-performance sports car made by Dodge. It’s designed to be very fast and exciting to drive. People talk about it because it has a loud, aggressive reputation.
Car
Porsche 963
The Porsche 963 is a serious race car Porsche made for endurance racing like Le Mans. In this segment, they’re talking about driving it in a video game, which is why it stands out.
Place
Laguna seca
Laguna Seca is a well-known race track in California. It has a famous tricky section called the Corkscrew, so it’s a great place to see how a car handles.
Term
M hybrid v8
“Hybrid V8” means the car uses a V8 engine plus an electric motor. The electric system can add extra power sometimes and then recharge later, which changes how the car sounds and drives.
Term
hybrid systems discharging and recharging
Hybrid cars can use electricity in two ways: they can spend it for extra power (“discharge”), and they can refill it using energy recovery (“recharge”). That’s why hybrid race cars can feel punchier at times and then sound/behave differently as the battery state changes.
Concept
prototype racing
Prototype racing means race cars built specifically for racing, not regular cars you can buy. They’re designed to go fast and last a long time, which is why it can feel more “serious” than other types of racing.
Term
stick shift
“Stick shift” means the car is manual. You use a clutch and a gear lever to choose the gears yourself.
Term
manual
Here, “manual” means the car uses a manual transmission. You control the gears yourself.
LIVE
All right 321
That's an intro that is an intro actually that's technically just a clap and that's several seconds of silence which
I think starting off with aggressive silence like a like a cold open to a lot order episode could be funny I
Watched a butcher. I the the lady. I was house setting for who's
Kind of my aunt not really
She had to rest she has like actual television
Which I will never watch if I'm home and I have it
But if I'm staying somewhere and there's real television
Especially if I'm like, oh, I don't know getting back from the bars at three in the morning because it's New York
I'm like a family guy on this
Hey, the answer is apparently always yes, there's always a station playing family guy, it's it's
And I don't I've not watched Family Guy in many years. I don't know why drunk me was just like
was Peter Griffin up to
Trying to watch them talk about social media fascinating
Fascinating so McFarland, maybe not our most in it. He's not our most
eloquent mind, but he does have a handle on the things that I think we do need to talk about more. Oh
No, well welcomed episode 19 of train girl Eastmoe. Yeah
I am your host Victoria Scott my pronouns are she and her and I'm here with my co-host
Hi, my name is Jordan Hoffs there by pronouns are she and her and
Nick said five, baby
We we have a lot more
American Century of Familiation for you today. No, we don't like it either
We're sorry that we're a downer, but this is just what living through the fall of an empire is like
But first we do have something that was cool
Yeah, we got good news. Yeah. Yeah, well, there's good news and bad news if you're me specifically
Well, I I was just talking about the Knicks. I was gonna just talk about that the Knicks
Winning started. I think the happiest sports weekend I have had in maybe my adult life
Yeah, you got to actually be in New York for it
Which I just watched a bunch of like highlight reels of people like dancing and doing full choreographed Broadway lines on like Broadway
Yeah, yeah, I I I saw I I did see a Broadway show and then I later that week. I saw a show on Broadway
it was I
Was joking around with you before we started recording that like I
It is the closest to like God is this what Vee day felt like in New York like I'm like
I'm like you could be watching like a bunch of sweaty dudes and Knicks jerseys
Just making out with their their girlfriend's wives
whoever's around also in a Knicks jersey next to them it was
They're about to be a lot of white babies with unfortunate like names that they probably shouldn't be named
About to see the the first white mom Donnie in in a thousand years
Yeah, it was a
Yeah
And we were out at a I think the bar was called clockwork some dive
And I loved it and there's a trend girlies both sticker in that dive bar bathroom now
Because I yeah, yeah
But yeah
They only had one TV at the very back of the bar so like
We were just kind of here in murmuring and then again
The game started off really fucking bad for you, New York, so I was just like it's not gonna happen while I'm here
I'm not gonna get to flip a cop car
This isn't gonna be a bummer and then immediately immediately immediately like
Three minutes till the end this girl just comes up with her phone still at her hands is like they're up by four
It's gonna happen and I'm just like the bartender's all just fucking activated
Just like started getting a lot of shot glasses out but not
Prepping them yet, and then yeah, I think our tab got cleared and
Yeah, when when it happened it sounded like all of the city shouted at once in a way
Or I'm just like God is this what being like this is like when Goku got the spirit bomb
We could we could have like I think every New Yorker could have like psychically killed Donald Trump
In that moment of joy, but yeah
Do shots with the bartenders
Finish our drinks go outside to just fucking pandemonium like people like doing backflips off walls
fireworks exploding in the intersection
Someone doing a doughnut and then like basically everyone just any cab just honking
People holding flags on like the back of pickup truck it was
We went to another bar after that and the energy was just I've never felt closer to my fellow man
In a big city before you know like I'm like wow this is like this is the reverse 9-11 and that the
Unified but like it's not it's good. It's good this time
Condolences to the city of San Antonio
It's fine. You you all remember Tim Duncan. You all had it pretty good for a long time
So that all happens I'm on a train the entirety of the next day, but
Yeah, Toyota wins LeBah again for the first time in a bunch of years
Against an actual field against an actual field, which is like I
I'm not unsympathetic to the criticisms of a lot of Toyota's other wins not being as shiny
The 2016 win that got taken away literally on the last laugh. Yeah still like
I
2016 that's the other thing so like the next winning Toyota winning against a real field and that Lewis Hamilton on
Sunday getting his first wind for Ferrari
It truly feels like the psychic portal to hell that the Cubs opened in 2016 has been shot and
If we get Mariners world series, I'm convinced that we will have communism by the end of 2030
I'm gonna just say it. I think I I'm gonna throw it all on the Pittsburgh penguins for the cup this next year
I I think we could oh the Canes beat rapist goalie for the
Vegas nights like it's just
Everyone's doing great. The only thing better could have happened if people got electrocuted by the Dodge Ram Ram at
the UFC fight
Uh
Is that our one bit of Stalantis slander this episode? Let me check back through our net. No Mitsubishi is a Stalantis company. Nope
No, they're not
You're right. They're there. We're no Nisa. No Nissan Mitsubishi
conglomerate
Is it a glomerate if it's just like four bad companies?
Yeah, that's what we like. We like Renault. No, we like Renault in this house
I think I want a twingo
Like an old one. I mean I take an electric new I was gonna say I would take a new one any day of the week
RS1 they built the RS01 which is basically the thing that they only built to go fake GT3 racing
Yeah, yeah, I only remember that because there's an ancient video of Max Verstappen driving
His dad around Spa in one and his dad is like looking over at him like what the fuck have I done?
Like like it's like that scene at Oppenheimer where he's just freaking the fuck out after the bomb drops
Except it's just like well you you did that by beating a young boy into
Being a better racecar driver than anyone else like you did that and he'll probably hate you when you die, but like you know
Four world championships ain't nothing
Yeah, my parents berated me and look at me. I have a mildly successful niche podcast
And we're better for him. We're gonna win four webbies eventually
Is that our webbies still doing the podcast awards? I have no idea. It's good. It would probably be good for us
Anyway, speaking of podcast updates. Oh, yeah
Hey, hey remember when I I check off guns. Hey, this I don't know how much longer. I'm gonna have a day job
Hey listeners, I don't have a day job anymore. This is just this is just our job. So
Look forward to more us trying to do more I guess without well well well, I have good news
Uh-huh
So thanks to the combined efforts of my wonderful girlfriend and me
Um, we have
We have tickets
That's right freedom 250 grand prix of washington dc
I can't believe we joke our way into going to dc in august
I'm gonna have to figure out logistics and stuff as far as like live shows and
Flights and hotel and I'm kind of like I kind of had a mild panic attack because I was like, oh god, we got to do it now
Um, and I hit up a couple of publications and they were all like, I don't know if we can publish the thing that you want to write
I think you should write it, but we probably can't do that
So I'll probably just write for like the patreon or something. Um, obviously we'll cover it for the show
I'd love to do a live show. We'll see what happens. I look forward to incurring the most psychic damage
I've ever received in a single weekend of my life
The fun part here, too
Is that I'll be able to actually check out both the outfield and the infield because of the way the ticket split worked
So, uh, I will be able to cover it as well as I can without a press pass
and I look forward to documenting the
desecration of the
American
Image I guess it's really all there is to it like the ufc fight is probably more of an apt comparison for the whole like
bread and circuses collapse of the roman empire gladiatorial combat thing, but I think the indy car one is
Just as societally interesting. I I I'm not looking forward to this. I'm actually dreading it. Um, but I'm dreading it
In like a way that is interesting
Usually the dread in my life nowadays is just sort of like a grim resignation
And this sort of feels like I have to climb a mountain as a forest fire consumes the earth behind me
You know, it's kind of like it's interesting and it's like maybe at the top. There'll be a cool view
Maybe I'll get hate-crimed by somebody who's like a
wearing a data white donald trump 2028 t-shirt. Who knows
It's still so the thing is it's still like in dc, right? Yes
And it's like indy car fans are generally, uh, cowards and pussies
So I don't think anyone's gonna be cruel to our faces
Uh, I was thinking about this of like, how do if you're gonna be responsible journalist covering this? I I now have
Unfortunately, I read a hunter s. Thompson book while I was in new york. Yes. Yes
So I'm now like, what if I take acid in the middle of a dc summer and just lose my mind at an indy car race
Do you know you can't do that? You would literally die of dehydration
You sweat a lot. You it's gonna be way too hot. I'm not letting you do that
I'm sorry. You're right. Just a little just a mushroom. It's just a low dose of mushrooms. You're right. I mean
I don't I just you can't sweat that much. You will have such a bad time. I don't remember sweating on acid
I you do
Oh, okay. All right. Yeah fun fun
Uh, I I would I would also say that like I am going to enjoy a couple of 12 dollar beers in the infield
Oh, you think they'll only be 12 dollars miss ma'am
Um, I am basing this off of what laura jadeed. Uh, the journalist you might remember from
Getting into ice without getting a single interview first
Um, who does really good kind of gonzo work. That's what she said they cost is the ufc match
Um, so I'm assuming it'll be similar
I saw they had the the dillon mulvaney bud lights at the ufc
They did. Yeah
I I was really cheering for by good friend, uh, lightning strikes, uh, during all of that
Well, here's what I'm hoping for, right? It's like the uh, the reflecting pool in dc
Where that which will be visible from the track layout. I'm pretty sure from remembering it correctly
um
Is currently full of algae after they repainted it and somebody pointed out to me
It looks like fucking fall out
Hey, it's so funny
Um, somebody pointed out that sometimes when algae blooms die off as it gets really hot they turn blood red
Yeah, they and so I'm hoping that I could shoot a couple of pictures of like indie cars reflected under the
blood red water of the
Of the national monument maybe we can get some wildfires in
And then they can blanket dc in a thick layer of smoke and have like the orange sun
I think it'd be great honestly like
It's going to be it's awful. It's it's going to be
Just genuinely terrible. Um, but you know, I the only comparison I can think of for an experience
I've had where I was like this this maybe isn't quite as fun in the moment
Is like hour 19 of staying up for all 24 hours of the Daytona
24. Yeah on the coldest
Race they had had in florida. I think ever
Um, and I was like delirious
I was fully like having auditory hallucinations and shit and like my travel got messed up
And I was like this sucks and then afterward I was like this is actually I was pretty cool
So I'm I'm expecting like a type two kind of fun thing where it's like, you know
I'm never of the type that's going to go to dc and be like wow
Look at the white house. What an institution of peace and harmony among nations because I'm a communist
So if I'm gonna go and see all this stuff, I could like at least see it desecrated
By the people who run those places and realize that like the myth of america is finally dead
And I don't have to do anything else to help kill it
Um, and so like that's kind of almost solace in a way plus I'll get to plus if I'm lucky
I might get to kiss another concord
That could that could be big. Um, I saw well while I was watching family guy every runs
Uh, I saw my I saw a television ad for the fight at the white house
Oh my god, and I feel like I reached a moment of pure zen
Acceptance of what I'm like america is right now
And I just actually I'm like no we should ride this bomb down because at least it's really funny the entire time
It's funny and it's also we're paying iran
300 billion dollars privilege of going back to status quo 2015
So, you know, that's really that's really sick nasty the art of the deal is alive and well and you know
War's over. Sorry dodge. No the the the v8 chargers are gonna come too late for this
This reminds me actually if you happen to be a listener and you are an expert on the commodities market
Please hit me up. I want to do an oil special and I have found myself neck deep in industry publications
And I could really use some help
That is my call to our audience
Because I want to do trans girl loyals mo
Trans girl is mo trans girl is moll. We'll get we'll get there. We'll get there. Well
I believe in us. Yeah, absolutely. Um
Anyway speaking of oil
Speaking of oil. This is a great segue to uh, the first topic on our list of american century familiarization
um, uh-huh
Jordan
They're calling you the woman with the best timing east of the mississippi
And we have our dated approve it. I hope that's true
Well, I'm the one with the best timing to the west of the mississippi. So, you know, there we go. There we go
um, so
How is this related to oil? Well, recently you and uh, stellar
Got an Ioniq five, which is you might remember is an electric vehicle and it does not use oil or gas
I mean directly. There's there there's oily gas in that pipeline somewhere, but you know
The Hyundai dealership lightly fucked our paperwork. Everything's fine. We still have the car
But they did said they did send stella an email today that said well
We'll gladly like fill up your car grottis for making you come back in and then she was just like well
You shouldn't try to put gas in it
But like if you if you want to charge it for us, that's cool
Like please please don't try to put gas in it because I think you're just going to be feeling like the frunk with gasoline
um
So we got the cox automotive uh data drop
um
The manheim the manheim god if I had it
I had my wife's musical production
uh
Production talent. I would be making us it
Here's here's by a real quick peek behind the curtain if we start
If we start doing really well that the show can support victoria and I
And we could get a whole new uh mess of equipment
Soundboard is unfortunately a thing. I want quite badly because cox automotive cox automotive quarterly report would have its own fucking uh
Real trap shit type drop
Shadow wizard muddy gang cox automotive report
Um
Well, they dropped the the manheim vehicle index, uh, the the used one specifically, um, which is their
Survey of the used car market from a bunch of like
dealership
data sources I
I will link it. They have a whole bunch of like their methodology in there, but uh, it's pretty good
It's kind of the gold standard of what people use for you know, month-to-month movements
Um, and it turns out used car prices are getting more expensive with uh, 3.6 percent higher prices
this as of
May this year versus may last year
um, and you might say, hmm, that sounds bad EVs
Are up 11.9 in price for may 2025 and up 3.5 percent from last month, which is april
Because again, this is the may data. So you literally
Perfect timing. I know and also I'm just I'm not saying that I've nailed this perfectly
But also listeners remember what I said go out and buy the cheapest EV you can because even those rock bottom prices are about to go up
I bet a fisk erosion is what?
$13 up for 10
I bet they're all climbing
um
Interestingly, this actually gets worse for cheap cars because compact class cars are up by 12.3 percent since december of last year
Probably because nobody makes them anymore. And so Honda fits are now just worth $40,000
We are going to see
A 60 grand Honda fit by the end of this oil crisis
Um, now it wouldn't be an episode of trend girlismo if things didn't get worse after I said a bunch of objectively bad stuff
Obviously, so I have to that is the show we do. Yes. Yeah
um
So xperian
Does detailed analysis of new vehicle sales and they had a data drop recently, which we could also make a sound for I suppose
um
that uh
Credit scores aren't real and we aren't necessary
In 2025 7.8 percent of new cars sold were EVs, but in q1 2026 just 5.6 percent were
So used EVs are shooting up in price new EV sales are dropping probably because the tax credit has gone and a bunch of manufacturers have left the market
um, if you would like to be even more upset
In q1 of 2026
39.1 percent of all new EVs registered in the united states were
Uh, I'm not looking at the note. So this is an actual gas. Uh
Uh, I'm gonna be boring and say
Dude, it's what it's do I want to say model three or model y?
It's the model y
Yeah, objectively the worst car they sell
It sucks. Yeah, it's bad. It's terrible. Yeah. Uh, I'd rather have the fiskero
I know I'm just kidding
Imagine
Uh, the more even the more depressing part was I went through the list of the top 20 EVs registered during q1 2026
Um, and three of them are not actually currently on sale
Uh, the the models x which as you may remember is discontinued
Uh, right the sixth most registered new EV model for q1 2026 the model s and the f150 lightning both make the top 20
How much inventory must have been sitting around for the x and the s when they called it?
I don't know and they may also still be like running out the end of the clock on those
I don't know exactly when production ceased. I think it ended in like earlier this year
So they were part of this period. They were still selling them for but it is a these are these are platforms that are
Like literally well over a decade old
And minus not going to f150
Well, yeah, the f150 was actually like, you know, but the f150 was discontinued in december of last year
So that is just an unsold inventory sitting around. Yeah
The the prologue also made the top 20
And honda was reportedly going to exit and then they denied it
But it's been selling like shit because it's not a very good
I mean the main reason people have gotten them is because they were basically free on lease
But I don't think they're like super compelling
No, because it's a it's like
The the prologue is maybe the oddest honda ever sold
Oh, I was thinking about the I it's a badge and should your chevy product?
Yeah, I mean that's so you gotta remember that they made like
They made like a they made a honda version of like the azuzu trooper
Yeah, they made a honda badged
They made a rover badged a court. Well, I guess that's the other way around
They made a bunch of weird badge engineering choices throughout their life. This kind of fits for them
I think the biggest difference is that we just don't usually get them in the u.s. Market. That's fair
Yeah, I guess that's usually a like honda like south america thing or whatever or u.k. Or yeah, yeah
Alfa Romeo badged s2000 that that's not real. That's not real
Um, no, you're thinking of the alfa Romeo badged miata, which is real
The fiat badged miata, uh, it would have been so it would have been
People only don't like it because it ended up with the fiat badge on it and not the alpha badge
It could have been the exact same car and had the triangle mouth instead of the
Yeah, they could have called that an alpha spider
And they would have sold it. That's what they were going to do
They had a legacy nameplate and then the last minute they're like fiat needs another car in america. It's gonna be uh, it's gonna be a 124
go for it
No one liked it
Which is objectively crazy because the 124 has like no name recognition as a legacy nameplate and spider is like
Basically every movie in the 80s if they couldn't swing a Ferrari and you needed to signal that your main character fucked you got a spider
Yeah, like yeah, it's it is
It's also like what is the progenitor of the spider name for for drop tops
Uh, maybe I'm not sure somebody can fact check us on that one. I didn't write it in the notes
Yeah, I'm just gonna say it very confidently and move on
All right, well as I am want to do
I usually await our emails
um, anyway, so
The uh, the other thing that's even worse is that plug-in hybrids are now down under one percent of total sales
significantly lower than in previous years
Um as of you know q1 2026, so people are not turning to phebs hybrids are up
but like
phebs are going to be where people are going to save the most money if we have a protracted oil crisis which at the time of
This recording we have no idea
Um, there's supposedly a deal net and yahoo isn't allowed to see it. It the deal is
Presumably precluded on israel not bombing levin on
I don't think that that's going to happen and it sounds like every commercial shipper in the world is skeptical
So it is being reported as a deal, but I I mean by the time this episode goes live
I wouldn't be surprised if there are like limited strikes exchanged again or something when this is why I need a
I'm a fucking expert. Yeah
I don't have a polycyte degree. I just pretend I do
You have as much of a polycyte degree as anyone who has been and I love you so much has been a news
A news junkie and I mean that in the most junkie for the way I could use that word
You you have the level of uh
You you look like someone you act like someone who is just constantly reading like a news ticker in the quarter of your vision
Yeah, if I if I had like unlimited resources, I probably would get a bloomberg terminal in my house. You're right
Uh-huh, uh-huh like you would you would just get ap you would just get ap directives directly to your
Yeah, it's unfortunate that I am so morally opposed to
Prediction market gambling because I could probably do fairly better than average just by virtue of how much I know about things
Yeah, uh, even without any like insight or trading information. I just also think that it's deeply immoral, so I won't do it
Uh, uh, yeah by the time this episode comes out what we're jp. Morgan chase anchored on june 1st for simplicity
plus plus 18
Yeah, you know, uh
The regular markets certainly don't know what to what to expect
Yeah, the the moral of the story here is that like, you know experience doesn't make this link in their analysis
but I am willing to make the link that like
Getting rid of the tax credit
And the only real direct incentive that anybody had to buy an eevee outside of oh my god
Gases suddenly six dollars a gallon
Has had pretty disastrous effects on american efforts to electrify
Um, and obviously this is compounded with like the nine other
bajillion problems we have about
how we do energy policy our
Reluctance to import anything from china even though they're kicking our ass in clean energy and electric cars and all this stuff
but like
You can't like it didn't really make it into the notes formally and I was planning on putting it in next week's episode
Because we already were pretty full up for this one, but honda as of the time of this recording canceled
All of their eevee projects
They have
Nothing they they got rid of like
What they had planned to spend billions of dollars in ohio
And that's they just they were just like nope
We're not going to do that and that's because we've built an environment in which no one can effectively make like a five-year plan
and electrification of the entire nation's like
Infrastructure is going to require a five-year plan. Why are you laughing at me? No, I'm not laughing at you
I'm laughing you have I told you by
When I made my last therapist really sad
Uh, we think that you've done it too many times for me to keep track of
I made my last therapist really sad where she's like well
Do you have like a five-year plan and I'm like five year plans are just a way to hurt your own feelings when things don't work out
Out of your control and she just went
Well
You're not wrong
But that's kind of grim and I went well life's kind of grim
I'm glad I'm glad we're making auto makers live like I do where I'm like five years is a little long
Um
Yeah, I mean that
And this is the thing right it's like we've we've evaporated anybody's ability to plan long term and so if
If the Iran deal falls through which would be shocking. I know nobody would have ever heard of anything like that ever happening before
Um, what would be funny is if we give them 300 billion dollars in like, you know, swiss bank accounts or whatever
They take it and then they go back to shutting off the straight. I think they should do it like at this point
I am not you got to understand
I am I am by no means a a supporter of the irgc
Um, they are a regressive theocracy
Uh, but I also live in a regressive theocracy and I
We're a bigger empire and we've fucked up more stuff. So I must I would hand it to them. That would be funny
Yeah, I I I have to hand it to the isla the ayatollah doing the the charlie brown football with the straight up
Yeah, so if gas is ten dollars a gallon by the fall, um, you know
There's going to be you can expect to see the
Period of time that we have lived in since I would say roughly the pandemic where used EVs were dirt cheap
To end because there's not going to be enough supply
Everybody is going to be flocking to them because if we live in a country that depends on the personal automobile
And it is just not feasible for most people to switch to transit in most places as much as I am a transit apologist
I recognize I live in kind of like one of the five Galapagos in America where transit is like an actual feasible option for most people
Oh, yeah, um, like I'm gonna have some like new york transit thoughts at the end of the at the end of the notes, but like I
Yeah, there's like what 55 cities on earth or in America where like not having a car is actually like super viable
Yeah, um, and I mean like Seattle is arguably one of those
I'm gonna stand up to let me beep in real quick because I think I can see her screaming
Just picking up very barely on the microphone, even when she's outside. So I'll be right back. Okay
She's okay. She has not forgiven mama for being for being out of town for a week if I being if I'm being so honest
That's fair. Burke doesn't forgive me either
um, but in any case like I I think that it's just gonna be
Bat and there is there is an argument that I have seen recently
from
Other automotive journalists who I I don't really it's not really like fair to put put them on blast. Yeah, um, but like
They basically argue that the the market will intelligently respond to high gas prices
And deliver the American consumer with like more choices and affordable EVs or electrification or pheas or whatever
and I think that this is like a pretty immediate rebuttal of that with no because
We aren't talking about like oh, we need to switch the factory to make, you know
They switch it to ev mode instead of gas car mode. These are not like interchangeable products
And they require a lot of r&d. They require a lot of infrastructure investment
And if nobody knows what tomorrow brings they cannot make those decisions
Yeah, so what's going to happen is that we're all going to get screwed over more than we have been
um, so I guess the the the uh
The end of the story here is all of us are screwed, but congratulations on the last helicopter out of nom
Yeah, it really it really truly feels like I I got on fucking on the last uh, I got
Kids, uh, the the helicopters out of vietnam was like Benghazi, but back in the 70s
I was anybody from something awful there
Oh god, you know
R.I.P. Hunter s. Thompson. You would have fucking loved something awful dot com
Oh my god beep beep
Beep beep just tried to parkour off my tit in a way that would have left me
disfigured and scarred for the rest of my life
That was so scary, um
Yeah, yeah like Hunter s. Thompson would absolutely love this shit by which I mean he'd probably kill himself again
But like, you know, I think he also kind of loved that shit
He would have tried a couple or more like drugs before he died at the very least he he had that dog in him
Yeah, um, that's the best way I could describe it. He would have been there in the mud pit on the lawn of the white house watching the
UFC fight. Oh, absolutely. I
If this entire thing so because there's no like easy fix for any of this right now other than
Start letting the Chinese import EVs, but that is a bipartisan fuck off. Uh, thanks to our good friend
Sinophobia, um, yeah
Because it's like, yeah, you want to turn on the tap for like good EVs wave a bunch of the import restrictions
Yeah, you have a bunch of
Hell like we could import like the good EV city cars from Europe if we just literally relaxed a little regulation
We could also probably dump about as much money as we've spent on like b52 engine upfits
Into, uh, like a national standardized charging network. Well, those are going great. Well, we did. Yeah that much money into
A nationalized charging network. It's called unfortunately
They're all they all have the tesla word on them because we paid for all of those
I know and now and now we get to each individually give Iran
Uh, if the rumor is true each american is giving a rod like 900 dollars directly
300 billion divided by I will I will put it like this
Uh, I can have it
Uh, that works out to like a billion dollars an elementary age school girl that we killed like two months ago
And it's probably
Fair fair. Yeah. Yeah, like I we again, I cannot this is I got an argument people on blue sky that I was not
Expressing sufficient reverence for the uh, dead crew members of the b52 crash at Edwards Air Force Base
And I was like we just blew up an elementary school. You are not I'm sorry
I am not going to like stand here
tearfully and salute this we are currently
I need
I'm gonna start I'm gonna change my bio
I'm blue sky is just gonna say if you are not familiar with revolutionary defeatism
By lennon. I do not want you to interact
If you are not
Yeah, if if you do not understand that there is at least a moral argument to be made that
Ever joining the united states military in a type of peace is uh, or
Joining the u.s. Military when you do like have a choice not to is like a more a lot a morally compromised choice like sure
Yeah, I mean I I'm friends with a bunch of vets. I'm wreck. I recognize all of the complexities of it, but also
Come on
This is not this is not the iraqi burn pit scandal where a bunch of like, you know
Teenagers are getting lung cancer because they were they were you know, it had a had an open pit full of uh
Asbestos that they they told them to torch
This is a bunch of guys who've devoted their careers to flying the plane that ends the world
Yeah, and also like I don't think they should have died, but also like
I'm sorry like we don't
The wasn't out there with a man pad. Yeah, I didn't I didn't like red light. I didn't like
Laser the cockpit
Uh, like I yeah, I just that was one of those things were like, hmm
We've gotten really bad at this flying american jet
Uh, you know, we start they started a forest fire in washington with an f a 18 like last week
And that's unrelated to the two f 18s that decided to try to mate in mid air
Montana, yeah, we we've lost we're losing planes at a rate that is like
You would this is this is for the scale of our warfare and the amount that we have air dominance
Um, you would think that they had just invented the airplane like this is world war one shit like
A farm boy from somewhere in like upstate france gets into a sop whatever
I don't remember what the hell
Sopworth camel sop with camel was the british one. I I'm blanking. Anyway a british kid. There's the fucker
That was that was german. Yeah
But I you know, it's just it's a comedic level of like material loss and at a certain point you have to be like
Well, shit. That's crazy the the broadway show. I got tickets to I told my my aunt to surprise me
And she got me tickets to operation mincemeat, which I knew nothing about
Until I realized it was based on the real british operation just floated dead guy over to spain
With fake invasion plans. I had like a handcuff to his wrist
Uh to fake out the germans, uh to defend sardinia instead of sicily
Oh, that's actually really cool. It's a really good musical. It's a really good musical
But there's a uh, there is a plot point that is borrowed from reality as far as I know
We're an american pilot went down to the same exact spot that they dumped their body, but that guy survived
So they're just like a real allied pilot that also a fake dead allied pilot at the same exact spot
And the musical just goes pilots crash all the time. It's fine
Just like I'm just like
That's that and and sometimes that doesn't feel apt
But this week if the really feels if you ever want to if you ever want to like
Like get into the human toll behind like real world, you know, world war two, uh, like
Bomber operations reading about like I I have a special interest in like the berlin airlift. Um, which was uh
I'm assuming most of our audience is like transsexuals with a deep interest in world war two aviation history because
Or one who will become the other
Uh, but but um, you know the brilliant airlift was like right after the the
Victory in europe and basically, uh, the soviet's blockaded access to uh, east berlin and they had to like airdrop shit in
Essentially because it was with it was otherwise within
um
East german territory
And they did this with a bunch of like b29s and a variety of other like
leftover world war two plates
They lost so many planes just because b29s love crashing
They they like part of like, yes, we were the country that did the the ss built this yesterday
Um, but part of that was because about one in every six ss built this yesterday's would crash on landing or takeoff at some point
And sometimes people would walk away from it, but frequently they would not
uh, however
b52s are uh, you know, I mean they're about 70 years old at this point
So they are of the age that they should be doing this, but generally speaking. We don't do this as much all I'm getting at here is like
I I'm sorry. I
My country needs to stop being the aggressor in completely unjust wars before I'm going to like, you know light candles
Yeah, honestly, I I also am just in such a bad mood that I'm like I want people
I would like people to yell at me on the internet
I'm I'm like cracking my knuckles ready for a fight and this is why I'm going to text
Antigone and tell her to put a password on your blue sky
You can use it for promotion and you can use it to post photos and that's it
Um, uh, anyway speaking of world war two airplanes
Oh
Uh, we have entered the Mitsubishi century of humiliation
We've actually been in it right now
Uh, for a while actually, yeah
Um, I I know I just did a whole big long thing about how there are no new EVs, but we do have a new EV
It's called the eclipse sport back EV
Do you remember the eclipse? I do and I
am
Podcasting through gritted teeth right now because I'm sorry
I'm all for bringing back an old nameplate electrifying it
But not like this Mitsubishi. Well, well, well
But do you remember that they made the after the eclipse the good one they made the lazy crossover. They sell like 10,000 a year of
Yeah, and this is so the new this is this is an electrified version of that
I mean, it's not actually but it's like it follows in that heritage instead of the cool eclipses that like
You remember from fast to the furious and too fast too furious and
Was it the third one? I don't think there was I don't think there was
Um, you know instead of the cool ones that you remember and would actually like maybe spark some joy in like a Mitsubishi dealership
They haven't seen since I don't know 2004
um
They they they're not doing that. They're just gonna make it other time
Someone was psyched to be an
Is such a
I routinely go back in my mind to the
The 2008 or 2009 final edition eclipse press photos of an all-black car taken on like a grassy lawn
Somewhere in like a strip mall district in southern california. Yeah the lowest effort we have given up like it
You know
The no note of like you told me Mitsubishi has been working with a
5000000 dollar budget for the last
20 years, I'd believe you if I they really are they are the car company that is building cars
Basically from like okay, you can change
The badge and maybe one styling cue and you try to do anything else
Uh, I'm killing an IMF in front of you
And listeners in case you were curious
Uh, the eclipse sportback EV is just a Nissan leaf
Oh, yeah, it's like a really really lazy new Nissan leaf. Yeah, you didn't think they made a new car, right? Like you didn't
I you you invoked heritage
About this thing and I had to go to the shapes place because otherwise I know you were doing a bit
But I was getting like a little mad like I got I got like 20 mad and I was like god
Because it's the sort of shit that I would hear a press person say at an auto show
And not have and like have to like struggle to like shove down the feeling of what are we doing here?
What are any of us fucking doing?
Uh, would you like me to make you more upset? Yeah, sure. Fuck it dog
It'll go down
I pulled a quote from the Mitsubishi press release on the eclipse sportback EV
Quote the sporty electric subcompact suv will feature unique front and rear fashas that echo other vehicles in misubishi motors global lineup
With distinct front and rear lights and lighting signatures
and quote
I would like it noted that I
At a moment's glance
Could not really tell
Any distinct difference between the front end of the new eclipse sportback EV and the new Nissan leaf
Aside from like the shape of the leds inside
Nissan like like pull it up. Okay. I'm looking at the new leaf real quick. I am I am absorbing it styling cues
It and then wow the new leaf really looks like that bad electric Mercedes ee e qe, huh?
Yeah, it's it's kind of frumpy. It's really it. It looks it looks like a Ferrari luce to me
It looks like a Ferrari luce a to b and then felled out a flight of stairs because it looks small
Uh, all right mitz and then eclipse sportback ee ve
Eclipse
Evie
Oh, you gotta be fucking kidding
Pretzels is the same of what are you talking about?
They added they added triangles
Or I not trying well well
That's because it will also feature quote striking and sporty alloy wheels and of course
The brand's iconic triple diamond branding and quote
Dog, do you mean your logo?
Do you do you?
Do you mean your registered trademark wordmark?
I also like why does it have gyardo mouth?
Look look at the front. Look It's got it's got like 2004 gyardo mouth
The the other thing too about this that was really funny to me is to the level of glaze on calling the mitzubishi logo iconic
When it is perhaps the only thing that signals a worse deal of a subprime auto loan
Then a dodge challenger parked in front of a marine barracks
like
Again has anyone been happy in a mitzubishi dealership since the subprime mortgage crisis
The only person who's ever been happy at a mitzubishi dealership is the guy who bought his gt3 rs
From a mitzubishi dealership because for whatever reason in a local dealership shuffle of inventory at
A gt3 rs ended up at the mitzubishi dealer. I assume because they had room for it inside
I mitzubishi dealerships feel like the the last car dealerships where they don't bother bringing anything in if there's a hail storm
Like who cares?
Oh your 20,000 car is now a 19,000 car. You're still making zero dollars
I I couldn't find specs for the next generation Nissan Leaf
Uh, sorry
Damn it. I misread my own notes mitzubishi did not provide specs for the eclipse
Sportback ev but they say it is based on the next generation Nissan Leaf
Obviously because it is basically like saying James Summerton based his videos on other peoples. This is this is straight up copying
this is
I watched a lot of h bomber guy
Recently and I got really into it mitzubishi has killed themselves
The mitzubishi has died badly. It is now apparently a wedding photographer. Didn't you see that?
I like the every the yearly what is james summerton trying to do poorly now
videos
Hey, besides not making the turtleneck work
Yeah, sorry like
The turtleneck's easy
But also you gotta admit if it doesn't work
He he's given too much of ferrero's founder
With like his tone of voice and presentation style
It's too much lis holmes
But like lis holmes is why I don't voice train by the way
She's she's representation for us husky girls
I hate do you it's just it's just a Nissan Leaf
I'm gonna go through the notes real quick. Just okay. You got the
You got the 2030 the momentum 2030. Yeah, I so so I was gonna get it
I was gonna get into mitzubishi's current five-year plan
Because I think it's crucial to understand the automaker and we haven't really done a humiliate mitzubishi episode
And that's just an oversight. We're almost episode 20. We got a yeah
This is this is low-hanging fruit. There's some wild should have started here. Really. Yeah, there's some wild
Percentages that they're proclaiming it. Did you see these in their press release about this car?
I mean I so what I saw was they're calling for a new car every year over the next five years
Next year's is going to be a rugged off-road derivative of the Outlander apparently
Oh, which means that their two cars in two straight years will be a Nissan Leaf
And a presumably a trim level of an suv that they introduced five years ago
Yeah, that's which feels like that's the mitzubishi definition of a new car
Appropriate, you know what they should read that what they should have rebadged as an eclipse
The Nissan z
Just just restyle it
I found out apparently that at least the neesmos and possibly the regular ones are like special order only now they are yeah
So I don't think they actually want to make any of those or sell them
So they're selling them basically to people who used to buy like bmw coups
They're selling them to like our parents with money, you know
Like baby boomers are my mom's dad so she's not yeah, that's fair and my parents bought a civic hybrid
I was talking about the the the royal our parents. I don't know how that works
Uh, there is some grim statistics down here at the bottom of this press release
Yeah, go for it 96% of compact cuv owners who shopped for a mitzubishi outlander purchased one
94% of a subcompact cuv owners who shopped for a mitzubishi eclipse cross purchased one
97% of small cuv owners who shopped for a mitzubishi outlander sport purchased one
And then 92% of plug-in hybrid owners who shopped for a mitzubishi outlander plug-in hybrid purchased one
What does that mean?
How are you quantifying that?
Guy who's only ever heard of the mitzubishi eclipse cross seeing a second cuv
Gee, this reminds me a lot of the mitzubishi eclipse cross
like
Hey, and also not to hazard a guest
Is it because you're the cheapest of these things on the market and your buyers have no money dog?
Yeah, I mean I
I don't know I I that is an insane statistic because presumed. I mean I guess
I guess the way they want you to read that is that they're such a compelling value by that if you're part of the
People like if you're part of the the cross shopping list people end up with it
That is for sure. But what I actually end up hearing it as is
The people who buy our cars are basically just gonna buy our cars because they have no other real options
Um, and so we have created we are really good at selling to hostages mitzubishi. It's either this or suicide
That's right right into the microphone
Um, so this is an unrelated fact that I came up with when I was searching for this uh
For the notes for this episode are any of these fun facts? I don't
Jordan it's an episode of trend girlies moe. I don't do fun facts. They're all fun facts because we're delivering them in a
jaunty jovial matter
Yeah, you know what's a fun fact get more communist now
That's the only way you'll hope to understand the horror of the next coming the coming years
Can online communists get 30% less embarrassing first?
I'll I'll I'll stop calling myself a socialist as long as people stop saying shit like america and then
wonder why their grandma doesn't like them
So while I was researching this episode, um, I found out that last year
mitzubishi sold
like
Significantly more eclipsed cross models in the u.s than ever before at over 17,000 despite the fact the car has been basically identical
Since 2018 normally they sell like 10,000 a year
So this was like it was close to double for some years including like when they introduced it
I'm pretty sure like they have not sold close to this many at any point
In the entire model run
This sent a chill down my spine like I was a character in the biggest short
Finding out if it like the sub oh god the subprime mortgage crisis. It's coming
I don't think that there is a louder recession indicator than people
willingly choosing to buy
And a mitzubishi product that is one not not very good, but also too hasn't been updated since 2018
That's just like that is a subprime like loan indicator in and of itself because mitzubishi
Like largely sells to people who do not have good credit because they sell really bad cars
And so they're they're basically like an automaker of last resort and like this is the position they put themselves in
Uh, and you know people who buy mitzubishi's are kind of just like well
Can you not afford a nissan like a nissan versa?
Then that's when you're going. No, I think
I'm pretty sure that like nissan. I mean like I'm pretty sure that nissan has like mitzubishi has
More flexible financing arrangements
Also, they sold the mirage for a long time
Like that was also getting buyers of like low-cost cars into the showroom because it was the cheapest thing you could buy
And if you were like putting 10 15 20 000 miles on a car a year or whatever and you were like
I desperately need to not have unexpected expenses a warranty looks amazing. So it makes sense
I say this with complete unlike dodge challenger buyers who I universally love
Um, I say this was complete sympathy for mitzubishi buyers because like I understand that the world is bad
but
if if looking at this is just like
If the if the earlier segment
Uh, you know from from the cox automotive data drop for the manheim index was not concerning enough
This is like this is the red klaxon going off manual battle stations
The recession is inbound which we all know anyway like come on get all your money from the space x is the like
At the time of this recording space x is like the fourth most valuable company in america. This is so obviously like
This is this is like pets.com. But a neo nazi runs pets.com
Allegedly or whatever I have to say so he doesn't fucking sue me neo nazi who fucking
Is responsible for a screw worm out break
Yeah, I
It's such a funny time to try to do
Literally anything right now
Because it really feels like we are in one of those like early 2020 moments where it's like, oh
I actually don't think anyone knows what they're doing at any given moment. I actually think we're all winging it in a
Uh, hilariously bad way
And that's cool because it's leading to some very funny things happening like again
Mitsubishi's iconic diamond
And
It's basically what it's a base or base bottle for the desod leaf, right? Like that's just what this is gonna be
I uh, I presumably uh, nissan leaf with a fucking tape deck
Nissan leaf
roll up windows
Could be sick like the slate e v. It's like the slate e v. Except you don't have to give uh, bezos buddy
Yeah, also, they can probably make a real product. I've learned my father gave them a gave them $100 or whatever the slate e v reservation was
We need a slate e v special because I hate it. We need a slate e v set
Uh, thank because I don't think it's real, but I think actually
If we were going to mexico style
fund an e v
Like an american e v
I think the slate is kind of what the the the
country should finance
Because it's small
It's not like a huge truck
It's it's not it's reasonable
Yeah
Anyways, we're yeah, I will save that for the cars that don't happen and wouldn't have been cool if they did happen special
We'll the lord's town special
Lord's town. I always think is john's town
For a second or i'm sorry, jones town. Jones. I was I was at any time someone says lord's town
I'm just like ah the first car maker to all kill themselves
Uh, um, that's spiker. I have I have more things i'm upset about if we're cool with that
Yeah, let's keep rocking dog for the next segment
I I wrote a lot of this one because you were getting back from your trip. Um, and I had more stuff. I was frustrated by uh
Yeah, so
We we continue the search for bds compliant forza horizon because I am kind of sad because a bunch of my friends are playing it
I understand. I'm not judging anybody. I get it, but i'm not gonna play it. That is my line in the sand
I am
Completely I am way too autistic to ever be flexible on anything like this ever which is a lot of why i'm like this
I refuse to pay money for it
I I I won't even give them the like
User connectivity statistics like I just I refuse to interface with microsoft in any any way if I have to rebuild my pc
It's going to be like linux from scratch. Whatever like I hate these people. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Um as you should
Yeah, um, but I decided I but I was like I really want to play a racing game again
Because I I'm not playing horizon 6 and everybody's like having fun with it. So I'll look for a new game
Um, and one of my favorite games of the past decade has been rec fest if you remember that
Yeah, that was the um god. What was that? Uh, it wasn't stuntman rec fest is like
Rec fest was a team who did another series in like the ps3 360 era, right?
potentially
I'm not actually sure they they had like a demo for a while of like
soft-body vehicle physics
I'm pretty sure and then developed it into rec fest, which is basically a demolition derby simulator like and and like
banger racing
You know, they've got like school bus
You know figure eight races and stuff
It was like it was my pen one of my pandemic games along with like war thunder
Because it was really good online multiplayer. It was the flat out
It was the flat out people and the flat out games were pretty fucking good actually. Okay. Yeah. Yeah
Um, and there is a new one there is rec fest too
It is currently in early access and you can just buy it for like 30 bucks on steam
And I was like this
This would be fun because I beat literally every single challenge in rec fest. I got every single car
I don't really know a lot of people people still playing it because it's kind of old at this point
And the online was what I did for most of the last couple of years I played
So I was like, you know, I'm not really feeling going back
But rec fest too would be cool. Yeah. Um, so I I opened up the game
In the steam store. What's up? You look like you found something interesting
I I'll only going through what I I was going through the list of what other games did these people make real quick
Uh, yeah, and I realized they made that weird
Westernized ridge racer game from like 2012 ridge racer
Unfounded and that just unlocked some psychic memories. They're Finnish. It doesn't that feel appropriate
This feels Finnish as hell. It is they have they have some like very very like Scandinavian Finnish
Esk sort of like tracks and layouts and it is very they're definitely races and events that are like inspired by like
Finnish banger racing kind of culture
um
Which is cool
I mean, it's also a game that allows you to like get a mark 3 super and slam it into like a limousine. So I mean, it's
It's awesome. I really love that game
Simulating alternate Victoria
Um, but yes, I look at rec fest too. It requires a cpu with six cores to even run. Yeah
That's minimum requirements
video games video games gotten big and bad
and harder I've got like a
A quad core i7 it's like not even bad, but I almost certainly can't even run it
Yeah, and I have and people are like, oh, well, you know, you could probably like, you know, maybe 500 600 bucks upgrade your computer
I do not have 500 or 600 dollars to play a video game
So I was like, you know, my computer works fine
I would love more ram because like I start my computer struggles with like photo editing tasks
But ram is also now a trillion dollars
So that's just kind of on the list of you know, maybe someday when when I can scavenge through a data center
Like ray in the new star wars movies style like pick it over the the empire
Starships fighting
Trading for fucking weird bread with simon peg. Yeah
um
So I was like, okay
Maybe I'll pick a different game. Let me take a peek at the top charts on steam right now for racing games
Maybe there's something I can play. It's what I went through the list
at the time horizon six
25 with the 26 that is that's that is on there, but I don't have a wheel
So I was like, this is not going to be very fun for me. Also. I think unless you're a true f1 sicko
I don't and I
I haven't touched the f126 update for f125 because I didn't like f125
I think they made some really bad choices to their physics bottle
Uh, if I'm being honest and also code masters has been brutalized since that they they got bought by ea. Hello
beep beep, uh
Again, I uh, I was gone for an entire week. So that means, uh, any task that might not require a beepo
Does in fact actually need a beep beep
But no, yeah, I
It's why if you don't have a console right now and you don't already have a gaming pc
You want to talk about the people who got out on the last chopper to nom?
It's people who upgraded their pc to the max in like
Early 2025
Yeah, yeah, which I did not I didn't have any money
um
So I just it's my computer was a nice build in 2019
to play
Decent games back then and it is actually downgraded since then because I've had component failures and just taken free parts from friends who helped me fix it
Um, so I don't even remember what the original build was and how the current one compares and I've replayed
This is it's been ship of theseus pretty hard because like I heard yeah, it turns out
Continual power failures, uh, like with the shit ass electric grid in Idaho even with a warranted like power strip still sometimes just fries shit
Um power strips not I think I had a bad power supply and like, you know what it was just garbage
I hate it. I don't like computers. Anyway, this is why I never built a gaming pc on my own
It always just seemed fucking miserable
Yeah, building a gaming computer just to me seems like all of the bad parts of like
Modifying a car where you get to deal with like weird interoperability issues
And none of the fun of actually wrenching or doing a burnout when you're done. Yeah
Because you're then you're worried about just breaking things. Um, yeah
I if I ever upgrade my ps5, I should just send you
Mine so you can at least play like gt7 and shit like that because well, I'll get to that
I get to that. So so first in the list fours horizon six not playing it been over that
I racing is second, which I don't have a wheel and it's been out since 2015. So I don't really think that counts as like a
New game anymore. No, I mean it's still getting updates for sim racing and it's yeah, and it's cool
But it's like it is a hard sim and this is even from somebody who loves hard sims. It is a hard sim
Yeah, there there are cars in that that even even if I've gotten pretty good with like the slower cars in
iRacing like
I bought one of the prototypes for a lark. I bought the 499p
Uh, the the Ferrari and let me tell you I can barely drive that thing at a straight line without spinning out because it requires a
Level of finesse that I just I just don't have yet
Uh anything faster than gt3 at iRacing becomes a like oh
You need a level of concentration and everything that I don't
That's it's not a game anymore. You know
Yeah, like I I want to have a couple of beers
and like
Ideally I was hoping to have a couple of beers spray paint a uh, you know banger mark 3 supra in transplant colors
And slam into limousines and I can't you know that so this is not going to be ideal here
um
For some reason gta 5 is third on the racing games top 10 list in steam
Which is insane to me because not only is it 11 years old
Uh, it's also absolutely no fun to drive in and I already own it
And I got so bored with it that I never even approached finishing it
I think like I don't have whatever the gta brainworm is. I don't think they're very good games
Don't I uh, I haven't liked one since vice city and even then vice city was more like 80s music
Vibes and neon, you know
Yeah, I just gta 5 is yeah
I know there's a huge community of people who basically just use it as a online racing game
But those people are psychopaths because it feels like driving through a plastic bag. You know what I mean
It feels like that old top gear challenge where they made them drive a lap of the track
Shuffling a wheel in a sleeping bag
Like it feels like that that is what gta 5 driving feels like to me. Yeah
um
f1 2025 with the 2026 season pack obviously four is a horizon 5 which I own and will not play for a for mentioned reasons
um, I got it years and years ago
Uh, I barely even played it honestly. That was like the worst one of the horizons. I had played in my opinion
um
B men g drive which I own that's been out since 2015 and again is kind of just sort of like fuck around
It's like gary's mod for cars like it's fun
But like it's not they have missions and stuff now
But they also need a wheel to drive well in that game. I feel like um, and it's also just like
I don't know. I would rather just go to iracing if i'm gonna play that
I don't know it just feels weird to use that as a it's for car crash simulator
It is a car crash simulator because I feel like most I see from bmg.drive is uh
Is videos of people just being like would this car survive this jump and the the answer is like
No, because real cars don't jump good
Uh, unless they got a lot of suspension travel and then it's just like oh cool
That's a that's a 488 that has like two dead occupants in it. Cool. Thank you
Like it was fun to kill hours with when I was like drunk in college and lonely
Um, because I could be like ooh, I can you know soft-body physics for like a new thing. This is crazy. That's cool
And I but you know like I'm 30. I don't need that anymore. No. Yeah, um
uh
Assetto Corsa, which I have no wheel for when you do that has been out since 2014
Car mechanic simulator 2021, which I'm pretty sure is just power wash simulator
But with like the ability to change spark plugs. I do believe which my wife has played power wash simulator
I'm not even knocking it. Sometimes you just need something to like zone out too
You know like she'll like have something on a tv a podcast on and then like be playing power wash simulator
And like this is how she resets her brain. I think it's how she does a screenshot
Yeah, but like that's not me. That's not how I operate if she's if she's smoked weed before all of that happened
She does she does. Yes. Yeah, that's my uh, did I have a panic attack and I except mine is like podcast
podcast Grand Turismo 7 and a track I like and I'm just gonna
Race the the clock for a while
Yeah, yeah, um
The coming up next is forza horizon 6 VIP membership for more in-game credits and benefits which cost 20 dollars
Which now I have not judged people who have listened to us and are playing forza horizon 6. I understand that like, you know
Everybody makes their choices about what where where their lines are and I respect that
However, if you gave them money for this you are actually a bad person that I'm sorry. We're we're gonna
We gotta draw the line somewhere. That is my moral
Not even because of like the whole like bombing palestine thing and material support for the idf
But like what are you fucking doing giving microsoft 20 extra dollars?
Yeah, they're just gonna feed it to co-pilot
Or cortana or whatever her name. They've got it. They've got a uh
Sorry, you said cortana and that halo remake does unfortunately look really fucking good in a way that I'm sorry
No, it's okay again. I my my line is I won't spend money on those games. So again
A code falls into the the trend release mode email account for the ps5
I'm not saying I'm gonna use it. But also you can play halo on the ps5. That's the big the halo combat of all
Whatever they're calling this remake is a ps5 game
Which you want to talk about Microsoft?
Century of humiliation it is uh, it is the fact that they are having to release their halo remake on on ps5 in order to recoup
its dev cost
Wow, uh-huh. That's pathetic. Yeah
Also, fuck microsoft because they're probably about to try to close like ninja theory and double fine. Yeah, they keep
Again, if you lay off these people you lay off
The people at double fine
I think you should be killed in the streets and I'm sorry. It brings me no pleasure to say that
But I just think that if you put the folks who made psycho knots out of work
I think you should be killed in the streets and I I I'm not saying that I'm just saying that maybe it should happen
I don't know. I don't know
I don't think that's an actionable threats work. I don't think it's an actionable threat. I just I think it should happen
I don't I'm not gonna do it. I'm in a bad pacifist. Unfortunately
Uh
Violence makes me squeaky
But uh, I'm not
Uh, that's our yin and yang here. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh, but yeah, I just
You put you put tim double fine out of work. I think I think bad things should happen
I think at the very least your car should always not start when you go to start it
Should always rain on your wedding day, you know
Um, next up is lamont ultimate
Uh, which actually did come out last year
And it seems like it was pretty good. I don't know if it needs a wheel the reviews were mostly positive
To be any fun. I do believe
You could drive with a valve also apparently
Also, apparently the online racing it is an absolute nightmare because the game blames you for getting rammed their netcode is bad
And their online officiating is bad. Yeah
It's like a zero tolerance fighting rule at an american school where even if you just get attacked by a bully
You're also getting in trouble because you were engaged in physical violence. Like it just doesn't work
If I wanted to replicate that experience, I probably wouldn't be transgender
Getting getting picked on in fights because people made
Getting yelled at for it. Okay. Okay. No, I know I was just trying to figure out where you were going with that
I'm like, is this a I was bullied relentlessly as a child. That's right. You didn't go to college school. How did that happen?
No, but my my parents could still get mad at me and I still we still lived in a neighborhood that was full of other kids
Mad at your mad at your stupid dead mom again
Um, anyway last on the list was nascar 25, which is iRacing Studios and I would need a wheel for
No, I believe I believe they've controller optimized for that
Really? I don't believe so. Yeah, I I could be wrong. I I just remember that like I don't know they make I mean it's
They've got road courses, but oh boy. Howdy. I hope you like stock cars and ovals
Not not really anymore is the thing like I played chase for the cup 05
My dad's work laptop when I was a kid and that was like the coolest shit I'd ever experienced
Just chase for the cup the one that opened not chase for the cup 05
It was like chase for the cup 0 2 or something
Chase for the cup 0 5 is the one that opens up with like the street race with the dodge vipers or whatever
Yeah, okay. I was thinking you have to race like ryan newman or something
I was thinking of I think it's nascar thunder o4, which is the one that starts with uh magic carpet ride
Uh
I just remember it it has like tody stewart arbs crossed
Lightning and thunder behind him and then yeah the fucking magic carpet ride song comes on
and uh
EA sports used to be so fucking cool
EA sport do you remember EA sports big?
No, I don't actually do something that was like still using an official license
But was like they were trying to nba jam it a little like nfl street
nfl street was an EA sports big game
I never played
nfl
streets or whatever, but I like as a full game
But there was a demo for it on the disc of like burnout
Three or something that I or burnout revenge there sure was that I played it a bunch on
And it was like one level and it was kind of fun actually and I just I played that a couple of times
My childhood best friend adam who you I don't know if you bet at the wedding, but was also at the wedding
He and I played a lot of
NBA hoops and also nfl street
And those games fucking those are the only like american sports games. I think I ever enjoyed
Uh other than yeah again, you know
nba jam
Yeah
Well, so anyway, this just led to me to the
end of the world
Not make that list at all
No
buddy
Ooh, that's that's a not a good ubisoft
Um
So I was like, well, I guess I'll just get a console and play the exclusives on there and then I was like, oh wait
Yeah, I can't can't do that because councils are a thousand dollars. The ps5 is a thousand dollars now. Yeah
Uh, I mean the ps5 pro is 900 dollars
You can get a base you could get a base ps5 for far less than that
So and I'm gonna sound like the most boomer ass woman to ever speak when I say this but when I was a kid
Yes
We didn't have trim levels of fucking consoles. You went to the store. You bought a console. You took it home
You played games on it. I didn't need like the whole point of a console is that I fucking hate the computer
They made the computer bad. It's not good. it's bad
And so I go to the console because I want to buy one unit of playing video games
And so the idea of being like, well if I get this I'm gonna have to like no
I want a box labeled playstation that plays everything and I don't need to think about it
I want to go but get a disc and put it into the player and I want to just play the fucking game
And this is this is my most boomer coded trait despite the fact that I I turn 31 in like a month so you can't
I'd argue one there were always trim levels of these consoles. They just called them revisions
Like sure like you were with the ps2 got on ozempic and got real skinny and lost a bunch of fees
Yeah, like they did that. I didn't see but here's the thing right
It's like we didn't sell the ps the ps2 thick and the ps2 like ozempic at the same time, right?
They were they just introduced the new one and it was like here is your unit of ps2
I know I had a thin one as a kid
Because like that was what was on sale when I got a ps2 was my first console
And it was just like I had no idea like I didn't it was irrelevant because I could go to the store
And I could buy a ps2 game. I could put it in the player and I could play the video game
You know, yeah, I I think the advent of digital delivery for consoles and also genuinely
Uh
The economy going to shit
Really extended to the ps3
Xbox 360 console cycle and therefore trained consumers to expect a longer console cycle
And especially as these things have gotten more expensive
I feel like that's why these half steps that you don't really need halfway through a generation are kind of the
I I think selling two skews from the outset like Microsoft did this most recent time was deranged
And if Microsoft deserves every bad thing that's happened to them
um
But I do yeah, I do truly think that
You know, I I want a ps5 pro only because my ps5 is a digital only edition because I bought it the last time I was unemployed
Uh for any meaningful amount of time
Uh, and I they were they were the digital one was on sale for like a hundred bucks off
What a concept these consoles being cheaper than when they launched. Uh, that's also
That's the old timey boomer coated thing. I miss c episode whatever for my little treats rant
Uh
But also like genuinely there was part of me that was just like well, I mean like
If I did a ps5 pro with the disk drive that is 900 dollars
Which is
A ton
Yeah, or a leisure device, but it is kind of like my all-in-one
Streaming entertainment thing
Oh, so yeah, I gotta my I got an apple tv as a gift
So and that is my whole household runs through that and also, you know, again because I am part of the the
Uh greater Seattle polycule infrastructure at the very least I get access to uh god's own plex server
Well, my wife and I have a jellyfin server because we're adults, so uh
What's what's paying plex like suckers, uh
You're paying buddy for piracy that'll go great riverwood napster did that in the early 2000s you fucking assholes
Never want to hear about plex again jellyfin's great just use it
Sure, you're gonna have to migrate a bunch of shit over but isn't you'll you'll love that
She's gonna she's gonna listen to this episode
Oh my god, do we have the who's the progenitor of the discords or the the plex server?
It's it's it's my girlfriend
You should probably move that all to it you should probably move that all the jellyfin though
You can do more cute little themes and everything on jellyfin
Think about how whimsical it could be
Why music?
Yeah, I I just uh
God would you like to continue on the theme of going off?
Yeah, let's go off because I'm done. I'm done ranting like I I have nothing else
I'm exhausted. There's nothing within me to to be upset about for another 20 minutes
I'll make you a little bit more upset. I got my hands on the I got my hands on the uh the grand trees bo7 update with all the
new hypercars in it
Yeah, god
It's so good to be able to drive those things on a controller without having to like
Fight with a wheel and pedal for like it was really nice to just be able to like oh
I'm gonna buy the Porsche 963
Someone has already made the amazing apple computers livery that they did for
Laguna seca
Which means I could just slap that on there and then I could just throw it at any track
I fucking like and just have a great time driving a new ish prototype
They got the sound great for all of them the fact that they did the bmw
Uh prototype which it's so funny that the last thing that I I played that had the bmw uh
M hybrid v8. I think is the official name of that car. Uh, it was in the fucking crew
And I'm like, oh my god, it's so nice to play. This is like a
like a real game
Uh, the Ferrari 499 is uh incredible. They got they got the sound especially of like the hybrid systems
discharging and recharging
so
Well that like you know, it was just lima weekend and I I am in my actually I think prototype racing is the sickest shit to ever exist
Uh mode and it was just the fact that they put the pujo in there is also just like that's a dog shit car
But isn't it so cute that they put it in here like it's a real contender
It feels like it's like a bunch of real lima cars and they'd make a wish lima car
I was I was trying to tee you up for it differently. Oh, yeah, I'll go through uh, I
I
I took the train to new york and back
And also exclusively used the train and did not touch uber or uh, I went on one bus
Because I missed a train. No, I didn't miss a train. That was new york's fault that the train broke uh as the l is
Common to do I thought um
Yeah, here's just a rundown of thoughts about uh, I have about the the pennsylvania
Uh
And the mta
The only other time I've used the amtrak to and from pittsburgh was to chicago to see my my horrid x
um
And let me tell you I think it's just because of the states that it goes through that way the floridian
Awful a hateful views out of the floridian. It's just flat. It's just flat in the tiny dead towns
pennsylvania
Lovely lovely dense forests. Um
Uh, I however I was confused by it seems like
Close ish to every stop
In the like industrial ish area of any of the towns with stops at least through pennsylvania and even into jersey
there's just
semi trailers
That are still branded with like dead retail the amount of like jeffrey the giraffe
Sunbleached and faded I saw
Close to rail stations because there was just an old toys or us cab somewhere or not cab but like trailer somewhere
Simply baffling do not know what the fuck is going on with that
But also I I hope I got at least a couple from I was trying to shoot from the train
To get some uh panning practice in for uh, I guess the indy car race in august
Oh, yeah, well, we got a shoot. We got a shoot film there. Um
It'll go great. Uh, I definitely am comfortable panning and zooming at this panning and shooting at the same time. Um
But uh, yeah, that was that was fun the amtrak coach seat
Should be the best seat of anywhere because there's so much room
There's so much leg room. It has the little fold out stool like fold out extension
Close to your ass and then also there's the foot bar in front of you
And you can recline the seat without like crushing someone behind you's legs
But it's just they're still just so uncomfortable for anything longer than like two or three hours
Which because it's an american train
You're going to be there far longer than two to three hours
Okay, so this is I had to check something because amtrak obviously does not have like a standardized rail car
They have different ones for different oh are their coach cars not all the same
Uh, well the long distance ones
Okay, the short answer there is no these are am fleets which are uh like
The main thing they use out east from my understanding. Um, and there are a bunch of different classes of them
But I yeah, these not being comfortable is not shocking to me. Uh, if you're curious
um
Am fleet one which is the original run of these which I
Think they're still using some of these
I wouldn't be surprised if I was in one of the first ones based on the level of the original order placed with bud
With you know, bud the rail car manufacturer in on october 12 1973
Oh
Oh
They were
Order placed the last time the next one
Yeah, yes, I yeah, uh
the
I I love that rules don't matter on amtrak like I know technically like
They should be under the purview of the tsa. However
I got on my train
in new york
We were moving by the time anyone checked that I actually had a ticket like we were in philadelphia by the time
Anyone checked if I had a ticket which is like great. I had a quarter ounce of weed with me
I just like just know what amtrak doesn't give a fuck and it's kind of great. No, it's great
It is it's fantastic. It's like part of the draw is like you can just kind of get on with like
Whatever, I mean like if you were like hypothetically traveling with like a bunch of like really heavy metal kink gear for some reason
And you were like this would be this is you can't really travel on an airplane with that
Um because you're not allowed to um because I have a weirdly intimate knowledge of tsa regulations around
metal bondage equipment. Anyway, uh
You can just bring that shit on amtrak. They don't give a fuck. They're not your bag can weigh a thousand pounds
They it's a train. It doesn't matter x-ray your film. What the fuck is an x-ray machine?
I could I could have had a loaded handgun
In my hands and I think they would have let me on still
You you know that this is what the dc the the guy who tried to shoot up the correspondence dinner did right? He am tracked
He rode amtrak cross country from california to dc
With his with his california compliant assault rifle
To commit the shooting because he was like well, they aren't gonna check and they were like, oh
We should like check now and it's like most amtrak terminals. I am using air quotes the size of a blimp
Uh our sheds next to railroad tracks in like north dakota
They're really the middle of nowhere you effectively would end the amtrak service to most communities that actually really need it
If you tried to staff them with like a full tsa compliment and so the answer is we don't
Also, the guy could have got he could have done any number
I'm not even advocating for this, but he could have done any number of other ways to get a gun across the country
Yeah, yeah, like cars are a thing
I mean like unless you want to like put a tsa person in front of every person's garage
Which at this point I think america is more likely to do that than build reasonable charging infrastructure
Um anyway, they got just yeah, I was just checking what the train cars were and fleets are
Old as hell
We're using them up here on the cascades because our train cars rusted out
I think and we didn't get the aero sets yet and we didn't have enough telgos left
So it I saw a cascade test set that was getting ready to come out to y'all
I was in philly and all the acelas. I'm kind of mad that I could have booked
I could have booked a really dumb way home where I did like in a cell of most of the way there and then like transferred at harrisburg
But with how many delays I hit on my way back
That seemed like I would have been playing with a lot of fire or sitting again sitting in harrisburg for a couple of hours
Which I think I'd rather I'd rather just end it
Once again, I spent 20 minutes at harrisburg and developed radical empathy for josh Shapiro because
I'm not a fan of the whole
Amptrack food is both really bad and also not bad because it's like airport food
But it doesn't cost as much as airport food
And I think you were telling me that I just picked wrong with what I got
Because I got the wettest buffalo chicken wrap that I've ever had
And it's not wet with sauce. It was just vaguely
Atmospherically wet in a way that I was not super psyched by
Uh
But like, you know, I I had it. Okay. I I
When I was saw that a wine was like 17 dollars
I was like, that's a lot for a pour of wine and then the lady in front of me got it
He had to hurt an entire bottle of wine and I went. Oh my god. Never mind. Amptrack's the best thing that it feels like
It feels like Amptrack is organizing a bake sale for themselves to keep themselves open
That is the cafe car vibes
Uh
For half of a return trip for whatever reason the credit card machine wasn't working though
So the cafe car always happened on mine too, which that was a real
Was a real fucking bummer. Yeah, I'm sorry
Pro move you I should have told you this before you left because I I didn't even think to but pro move
You always got to have cash on an Amptrack
Like credit card machine dying is like that. Yeah, it's a day ending in my life
I mean which again makes sense with the level of technology Amptrack seems to be cooking with at any time
Uh, yeah, you mean the reheated leftovers of the Penn central. Yeah. Yeah
Which speaking of the Penn central on the way there
I might have slept through it or they just didn't announce it but on the way back
Our conductor had like this huge beautiful speech about the importance of the horseshoe curve and like why it's a big deal
And why we were going to see a bunch of like
Husky middle-aged men, uh all staring and gawking at us as we as we rounded the horseshoe curve
um
Cannot figure out why but uh on the way back
There were so many people taking photos on like tripods of our train set and I cannot figure out there was nothing special about our train
It was the regular it rolling stock they used for that trip. I have no idea why
anyone was foaming out it's
It's possible that they were kind of like doing aero tests through there later. Oh my god. I bet I know why
uh the
The you know right they're doing the steam train through the same route. Yeah
I think they might have put the steam train through the curve
that day
which probably would have attracted like
Every train enthusiast
Within a 12. I'm sure I saw like 12. Well, there's your problem listeners just on the side of like just based on demographics
but I
Uh, my friend was just like world cup tourists and I'm like no these are
These are american men
These are middle-aged american men
Uh who have lived in pencil tucky their entire lives and they are foaming out right now
um
So, yeah, the horseshoe curve genuinely very oppressive genuinely very cool
um
And then yeah in new york, uh, I think the mta continues the bay at the best bass transit system in america
Uh, the fact that it is 24 hours is uh genuinely incredible
I I dealt with some train issues, but it was never more that it was always the sort where I could immediately like
Oh, I just have to like take this train two stops this way and then I just walk a little bit more and that's fine
Like I it was never anything that truly ruined my day. Um
I think the only other transit system I've ever used that is better is the tokyo transit system
But tokyo is actually like five different systems all run by private companies
Because they have all been dueling for market share in the largest city on earth for however long
Which means that they are constantly just building new shit and making it better. So like
Not a fair comparison because the mta has
What been trying to build the second avenue?
the second avenue line for
400 years now or whatever
yeah
It was actually like when they when they initially stole the land from
Native people they were one of the things they've tried to work into the contract was that line put a subway here
uh
But yeah, uh, I used a new piece of new york equipment for the first time because I was staying at rooseville island
Which is a weird little place island
But I used the tramway that's in like the the first sam ramy spider-man movie
and I
Hated it. I don't have like a huge fear of heights
But let me tell you something about rocking gondola over a huge body of water that kind of like
Made a horrid creaking noise for a moment. I was like, oh my god, the green goblet's gonna drop me into this water. I'm fucking dead
I'm fucking dead. It's all over
uh
So would I use it every day probably I'm sure I'd get used to it
But like yeah, I did have the first time using it pure fear pure unadulterated
I don't actually like being suspended over water in a way. I can't control
um
But to be fair I used to have the same fear on like the do you know the big
Intermittable bridge in between like it's like texas going to new orleans
Yeah, yeah that over the the atrophilius. Yeah, I that bridge
I had like a crisis on it once because I was just like it just keeps going
It's I can't I love that bridge. I feel like it's a bridge where you can see the curvature of the earth
It is it is a insane bridge. I took pictures of my van there actually. I love that spot
I here's the thing right is like whenever I'm in any kind of
Situation where like it's a massive feat of engineering. I'm on I'm like this is such a cool massive feat of engineering
And also if something does go wrong, I will be on an episode of well, there's your problem one more time
I was about to say I was like so like I think you're usually on episodes of well, there's your problem right now
um
I need you to talk to Liam and Ross about the make work
I tried to I did only one of us at a time
um
but uh
yeah, I
my
I have used the the subway in new york a ton now and I think I could just fully say with my whole chest
I don't trust anyone who gets scared or
Fearful of the subway if you especially like if you're a new yorker who just doesn't use the subway
I just assume you're a racist
Or at the very least like an elitist snob because like I
You said racist. Yeah. Yeah. I because it's like I
I'm not going to I
I saw some pretty famous people on the train on
Uh
Once or twice and it was like yeah, some people came and said hi, but other than that like
if fucking
Someone people who there were a bunch of people in town for try back. I'm not gonna name names, but like I just like
it
If I am seeing them on the same train to the village
And we're all dealing with an insane racist lady having some sort of break with reality and yelling about the power rangers
I think we could all ride the subway and just know that it's probably gonna be fine. And in fact, there's safety in numbers in fact, uh
Yeah, so yeah
Yeah, the scariest the scariest train car in the entire world is the late night special uh from the from the airport
Uh on the link line that has one other person in it. Yeah, I'd much
Does it matter who just like one other person in the train car?
They're also probably just a scared of you, but like having a train car full of people is actually a pretty good way to
Feel relatively safe because people tend to take care of each other. Yeah
At least that's my belief writing the f for a packed f for like
12 stops back to rusevelt island
after the nicks one
At like three in the morning. Oh my god is that had to be incredible. Maybe the best
transit experience I have had that did not involve me looking down
uh down into a steering wheel in my own hands that had a like
m logo or Ferrari logo or Porsche logo, you know what I mean? Where it's just like if my driving experiences are like
That time I got to drive a 430 scooter ria on back roads in in texas
F trade 3am post nicks wins probably right there and then it might be nerve-wracking like I like I'm not like
I'm just trying to say it's like interiors are promoting transit experience and then it's like
a 382 rows to myself like, you know, like
Yeah, yeah the subway cost me three dollars
Yeah, so
Uh, uh other than Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, which is of course
All of my trans friends going like hey
Like people talk about new york and seattle, but like when you're out and about in Pittsburgh
It's I can genuinely startling how many trans people are there and I'm like, yeah
We're like we're like real percentage points here at Pittsburgh
Uh, and I think that's great. Well, I put it in last week's show notes. I was like, you know
Pittsburgh is the paris
America's paris for transsexuals seattle is uh, america's new york for transsexuals new york is america's istanbul for transsexuals
This is how I believe the the mapping worked out. Uh, after the eric adams term
I I can see that, uh, it hasn't he recently
to albania though
I don't know what the biggest city in albania is though. Unfortunately
They have city. That's bad. That's mean. um
But no, I uh, yeah, I I'd argue that seattle is the chicago
for transsexuals
In chicago, and I think chicago is weirdly the seattle. So I think it's all just topsy turvy. Um
We have a we have a lot of trans people here
Pittsburgh feels more like new york junior only because we were like kind of like
similar east coast cities with chips on their shoulders because we've both gone fucking bankrupt
Yeah, I suppose. I mean, I don't know. I
I liked pittsburgh a lot. That's great. I I have never been to new york. I would really like to go to new york. Oh
my
I was I was born in buffalo
Um, but my family never took me to new york
I've never been for any kind of work trip because I was always on the west coast and they would never send anybody to the east coast
I never had anywhere to really stay
Um, and it's expensive there. So I've just never gone and I really want to
listeners
You know a queer venue in
New york city that would like to be
The first live show if we can't make dc work for trad girlismo
Let's your girl know we should just at at this point
We should just do an entire east coast tour just ride the acella like I think somewhat
I think someone you know might have already done something at baby called it the northeast corridor
Uh, I think we I once again, I don't want to just do the well. There's your problem
Playbook, okay, but like I'm gonna hang out
With them when we're in dc for the freedom 250 grand prix of america. So like it's fine. They know I'm they know
This is not again. I am not putting a new badge on an east on leaf and calling it a mitzvah bishi here
I am very open about where my inspiration comes from. You are still a cast member of that show as well
It would be crazy if we weren't a little like it like liam
in november both been
here like I'm not saying that I just
I wouldn't I
We're a very incestuous group of left-wing podcasts and I would like to make it
I would like to still be our own special little thing. Uh, however, I'm now thinking
Okay
Joint live joint live show at the fucking dc 250 could be could be big
Um
We'll figure it out. We'll we'll do well at least do a meetup
I I think that's the most we could promise right now is a meetup and again
I know some listeners sent uh venues and we are a much bigger show
Which feels crazy to say we're a much bigger show than we were
six months ago, so uh
Yeah, I I think it's we weren't not a show six months ago
Our six-month anniversary is still for like another week or so. Okay. I at horseshoes and hand grenades
It's it's pretty close to six months. They're
inflexible
Our growth is meteor. Yeah, we're doing we're doing super good. Um our our podcast is too strong
Yeah, our steak our steak two buttery our crops two watered. Uh
I got to play wind jammers at a bar and uh throw a I
played standing arcade cabinet crazy taxi in new york
I'd never played standing crazy taxi before
That had the most responsive wheel of any arcade racing game. I've ever played for some reason. Yeah, I really that cabinet felt incredible
Um meow well
I
I mean, I I think that was actually a pretty good note to end on new york is an amazing city
Uh amtrak needs to probably buy some new train cars. We'll do an episode on that someday because I have thoughts
We need to give amtrak more money. Uh, yeah girls go into the race. I hope that you enjoy watching a suffer
Um, I will make it as entertaining as possible as is the covenant between an online
Uh artist and their patronage is I make a bunch of good stuff
Y'all help me pay rent and I occasionally suffer in a very funny way willingly because it's kind of like a
It's a sort of a cross between like masochism and I don't know court jesterism. That is what podcasting feels like. Yeah, absolutely. Um, yeah
On the note on the note of our lovely audience
I do want to I did want to like do our as we should because I think we have have you have you got to have
Have you refreshed?
Like since we started recording I should I should we have we've had a lot of people offer to support
We've had a lot of people support us in the wake of jordan announcing that she does never job
And it's really really kind of you to help support us because this is again
Both of our main jobs. Yeah, and I'm not the winner of my home
But I would also still like to be able to contribute
I I can't contribute as much as I was working as well as doing the show, but I would at least like to
I I think it's I think both of us covering our expenses and not making our wives bad is is good
I think that's I it's not even a matter of making not making my wife mad. We just you know, uh-huh. Uh-huh. It's seattle
It's expensive. So I appreciate it immensely. Um, um, but so I do want to go through all of our 15 dollar
Uh, let's do it subscribers who uh support us and say thank you to all of them and there are a bunch of new ones
And again, thank you so much. We really appreciate it and this does help a lot
Um, there've also been like a bunch of really kind people recently who have reached out to a couple of friends about like
various things for like work or photography projects or like helping financially support them in some way and the
generosity is always incredibly
Kind and is kind of the ballast that keeps me from sinking too deeply into it's so over
Um, and it's I just yeah, thank you. Um, but anyway seeing the well of support after I posted the thing on blue sky
Which I was not trying to
No, I know it was just nice because uh, it's gonna be nice to focus on the show for a while and also like
I
The the more we get from this the more we can do with it and that just is gonna be a cycle that
Continues to pay off for the people who like us. Um
Hi bird. It's burr. It's a oh
That was the most mother-wide
I've ever
Um
Bert you want to read names? He can't read cats can't eat cats can't clap
He can meow directly into the mic though. Will he do it? Anyway, so
Uh a special thank you to ronan c
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Papa shitty tams
Yeah, I thought you'd like that one
qq bears hijacker
elli o'dare
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sorry
Uh, sorry geroltoff rivian
I was reading it as an up, but I believe it's geroltoff rivian
kyler rose oh, it's geroltoff rivian like the witcher character, but rivian
Oh
Okay, okay. I'm sorry gaming reference. I don't understand that. It's a polish novel reference first victoria
I say I'm sorry for making that comment on the patreon
Uh kyler osensberg
um
Pittsburgh t gar t girl baseball june 20th 4 p.m. Bloomfield park. Oh shit. Yeah, absolutely
This person did reach out to me and say like oh, you don't have to read that if it's too much
But like no I that that's awesome. That's what you should again the highest form of this is us doing classified ads
If you want to not pay us for a patreon subscription
And you just want to pay us like 10 bucks to read a classified. We could talk about making that happen. Yeah, absolutely
Uh, but this is awesome pittsburgh, uh, june 20th 4 p.m. Bloomfield park t girls baseball
I that described so many of you that does yeah, uh
Thank you to ashlyn adam mancuso
G that roushmustang was great when it rang ran
studio nixie
totally not saudi oil bribe money
alex k
lift kits are gender affirming care
jd santos
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dog bed the bed that eats kibble
deluxe
catrania
sloppy head enjoyer
ember crucibles champion the people's pillow princess
Mimi bean
brie henry sable
James skill breath charlie stangle
I might let a slate be the next ev to ruin my life
Well, we have an episode for you. I don't think you're going to I don't think it's going to be able to ruin your life
Because I don't think it will be an object you can buy but I if that ruins your life then yeah, I guess sure
Theodore constantine john v
buick
adam shepherd
steven duckworth steven duckworth
Phalan mildly perturbed the gen one niece on leaf is the greatest car ever
Which I you know honestly if you're if you're crystal storm and it's because you put our
sticker on the back of your first jed leaf. I will allow this
Yeah
Asherin
Chris hefner jerry at homo gamer agenda.com. No really it's a blog check it out that
So go check it out. That's I've already sold. Yeah
Dexas
Tara hailstorm will
Steph Schrader princess Reese is apparently goth girl bait good for you. Yeah, uh-huh
Emma alex for sale harley sportster dyke owned
Again classified ads jet fuel can't meet melt these dreams
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Saturday's claire the mass of gray goo formerly known as wingsmith
I told you you shouldn't use them
Penile sparing vaginoplasty available now. I mean it's it is a real thing that you could do. Yes. I I I've I've seen it
Yeah
Whoa
Nick Bombowski a shrimp a trans fried this rice podcast with brackets around a trans and podcast
Okay, okay a a shrimp a trans
Fried this rice podcast. Oh, you're telling me a trans fried this podcast. There we go. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, uh-huh
Okay, there we go. Are you telling me are a trans ride this podcast? Yes, I am
I didn't if I didn't try our audio that bad at that time
Uh
Well, we're too fat
The turf smacking pizza orphan dandy of the west with an emoticon that I can only describe as a
Very open
Exasperated face
Big open eyes. It's an eight instead of colon. Okay, julie aguilar
Gavin g whiz team radar love our c duke crystal anyone in seattle want to buy a 2000 susuki vatara storm
Oh, so it wasn't crystal with the leaf. Okay. It wasn't it wasn't but honestly like
Suzuki vatara. Those are pretty cool. Honestly. I know
I can hook you up if you reach out and you want to buy it
Tara crystal and next week's you should put in um, how much you were gonna sell it for and then we can just read through the lines
Every every week. Oh my god. It's gray stick shift and tear a stick shift
manual roll up windows
145,000 miles. Do we need to be licensed to do a live auction?
Can we do like live
Transsexual trailer is that a thing we can do without getting in trouble if you're a lawyer email us
I would love to not go to jail for this dumb idea, but I
I'll auction a car
Thank you to john russell
Justin ryan josh j and selectrick. Thank you all so much. We really appreciate your support
Uh, we'll be back. It's probably I think next week. We'll be doing a bonus episode
Um
TBD
Uh, I've got time now. We'll figure it out. Yeah, maybe maybe maybe we do go back to five
Only if it doesn't burn you out, but like again, I got time, baby. Um,
I'm almost finished with a piece that is going to go up on our patreon about the first forza horizon and some
Some obama era millennial optimism for the kids out there
Oh, yeah, and if you if you are a patreon subscriber, you can also read
The first like nine parts of or eight parts of transgender smoky in the bandit my futuristic dystopian
Uh car chase slash lesbian
Transgender action adventure it's like it's like what if that one cohen brother who left his brother to make lesbian movies?
Actually made a good lesbian movie. That is my that is my the highest praise for you is like
Oh, wow. What if the cohen brother is pulled of wachowski sisters?
Yeah, uh, yeah, and then uh, I everyone should
Hopefully except maybe some of our international friends have their merch at this point
Yes, there is one that came back to me for an error with the customs that I'm going to fix. Um, and uh
And uh, everybody should have them so that means we will be probably opening up shirts and stickers again
And I think we're doing a new stickers because I'm gonna throw myself in front of the train tracks and cry at victoria
It doesn't let me sell what let us let victoria make us sell one of her joke photo shops that I still
Uh, well sometimes just picture in my mind palace and then laugh at
Uh, so
Concerned george w bush next to small of george w bush looks pokemon not
Yeah, because it's him announcing the invasion of iraq, right?
We should probably like donate the money from those or something so that like nintendo doesn't sue us into the ground
If nintendo cared about fan art at this point, uh, every fucking furry convention would have like jackboot nintendo thugs breaking people's legs
Well in any case, uh, yeah, so we'll have those soon and thank you again for listening. I think that that is in fact a podcast
Bye
Bye
About this episode
Mitsubishi’s EV comeback gets the spotlight, but the hosts aren’t impressed: they call the Eclipse Sportback EV “just a Nissan leaf,” question the lack of published specs, and roast Mitsubishi’s dealership reputation and lineup strategy. The conversation also ranges through EV market data—used prices rising, EV sales share slipping, and plug-in hybrids staying under 1%—plus charging and policy talk. Between it all, they plan a DC live event around the Freedom 250 and keep the jokes rolling.
alloy wheels
Assetto Corsa
badge engineering
Cox Automotive
EV
flexible financing arrangements
Forza Horizon 6
Grand Turismo 7
heritage
hybrid systems discharging and recharging
Chrysler New Yorker
Dodge Challenger
Dodge Ram
Dodge Viper
Ferrari 499P
Ferrari Luce
Ford F-150 Lightning
Honda Civic
Honda Fit EV
Honda Prologue
Honda S2000
Hyundai Ioniq
Mazda MX-5 / Miata
Mitsubishi Eclipse
Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross
Mitsubishi Eclipse Sportback
Mitsubishi Mirage
Mitsubishi Outlander
Mitsubishi Outlander Sport
Nissan Leaf
Nissan Versa
Nissan Z
Porsche 911
Renault Twingo
Tesla Model 3
Tesla Model S
Tesla Model X
Tesla Model Y
Toyota Supra
Original notes
Hello and welcome to episode 19 of Tran Girlismo! On this episode, the girls briefly recap Jordan's trip to New York (DA KNICKS BABEEEEEY, congrats to the NY dolls in the audience). Then we get into the meat of the American Century of Humiliation: Cox Automotive has new data on the used EV market, and Experian has new data on the new EV market, and we're fucked, baby. Then we discuss Mitsubishi, which has humiliated itself anew with the Nissan Leaf II, aka another miserable chapter in the continued degradation of the Eclipse name. Then we discuss the miserable state of the racing game market as Victoria tries to find her own BDS-compliant Forza Horizon replacement. Finally, Jordan regales her Amtrak experiences.
A special note from our host Victoria Scott: Please read Lenin before you yell at me on Bluesky. The referenced piece on revolutionary defeatism is literally like just a few thousand words. The Defeat of One's Own Government in the Imperialist War @Marxists.org
As always our opening theme is off of Stella Spazzatura's Horse Tranquilizer Simulator!
Referenced Stories:
FIA Le Mans Recap @YouTube
F1 Hamilton Win Recap @YouTube
Carolina Hurricanes Fans Chant "No Means No" At Vegas Knights Goalie Charged With Sexual Assault @The Raleigh News & Observer
Max Verstappen Drives His Dad Around Spa-Francorchamps @YouTube
"Verstappen: Forged by his father's beatings and humiliation to achieve a winning character" @Marca
The Webbies Still Exist But They Did Pick Claude As Person Of The Year For 2026 So I Don't Actually Think I Want One Anymore @The Webbies
Laura Jedeed's ICE Expose @Slate
Laura Jedeed's Liveblogging Of The UFC White House Fights @Bluesky
Iran Deal Includes $300 Billion @Reuters
Cox Automotive Manheim Index (May 2026) @Cox Automotive
Experian Q1 Auto Market Analysis @Experian
Model S and X were discontinued in April @InsideEVs
Honda Denies The Prologue Is Dying @Motor1
The Acura SLX (which also was sold as a Honda in Japan!) @Acura
Here's Where The Spyder Moniker Comes From (hint: we were wrong, it's literally from the 1800s) @Road & Track
Seattle Link Line Is Now The Highest Ridership Light Rail In The Country WOO @Reddit
Bipartisan Bill To Ban Chinese Vehicles @NBC
US Authorities Must Be Held Accountable For The Deaths Of 120 Children In Minab School Strikes @Amnesty.org
250 Children Dead In Ongoing War In Iran @The Center For American Progress
Edwards B-52 Crash @Military
Two EA-18s Crash At Air Show After Attempting To Mate In Midair @KOMO
F/A-18 Crash In Washington @Marine Corps Times
101 Fatalities During Berlin Airlift @Cultural Diplomacy
Mitsubishi Eclipse Sportback Announced @Mitsubishi
The Official Photos of the Final Mitsubishi Eclipse Are Just As Sad As The Car Itself (By Friend Of The Show James Gilboy) @TheDrive
What Is This 911 GT3 RS Doing At The Mitsubishi Dealer @Reddit r/Porsche
Plagarism And You(Tube) By Hbomberguy @YouTube
James Somerton Is A Wedding Photographer With A Plagarized Portfolio @Reddit
Oh hey btw Wreckfest is on sale for $3 today, if you never played it you should get it @Steam
Microsoft Complicity In War Crimes @BDS Movement
Nascar Chase For The Cup Opening Viper Street Race Against Ryan Newman @YouTube
Endorphin Port @YouTube
WHCD Would-Be Shooter Took His Gun On Amtrak @AP News
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