And I talked to some old head who's like, oh, you bought like, you know,
a new aftermarket or remand starter, as you said, right?
Oh, all these aftermarket parts these days, getting worse.
And then get off my lawn.
It's a bad part. Well, the old right, you know.
So I fish it out.
I took it back in.
They bench tested it like, oh, yeah, this thing's done.
Here you go. They handed me a new one.
Put it in the car.
I think it's still in the car to this day.
Oh, wow. The second, the warranty starter.
Yeah, just a bad part and it and it happens.
And I've had it happen with, you know, the reason I brought it up
was the lower coolant hose on the Focus SVT special order.
The part in its SVT specific and I wrestle it in, you know,
whatever it was 36 hours before the start of the rally.
Nope. Sorry.
There's a bad casting in this, like, wide joint.
So it's pissing coolant out. Great.
God, I'm trying to think.
I promise I've had other.
Oh, I had actually the opposite of it.
And my one of my first gen forerunners.
And I'll let you add to this here in a second.
You can throw more vegetables into this soup of bad new parts
where I did it was the opposite where
at a first gen, my first gen forerunner, 87 forerunner, 22 RE automatic.
I kept getting low charging.
Warnings, which on that car is just a simple alternator,
single red LED that lights up doing.
Shit, OK, you know, I tested at the battery.
It was only it was it putting out like 12.9, 13.1, something like that.
OK, we're not we're not charging properly.
I look it's what looks like the original starter and car add.
I don't know, 170,000 miles at the time.
OK, it's random times.
You'll nip and denso.
So I pulled it out and I take it to the local local car,
you know, used car, whatever, not used, but O'Reilly's, whatever.
Autosome, take it there.
Hey, man, I'd love to sell you a starter.
I just tested this thing.
It Bench test perfect.
No, honestly, and if if he was right, he would have been right.
But if he was right, his point was was valid, which was like,
this is a nice OE nip and denso starter.
I tested it. It tests great.
You should just put this back in the car versus buying some whatever
a one car don't part that I'm going to sell you out of my place here.
I'd love to sell you a starter, but this is a good starter.
Shit, OK, put it back in the car.
I keep getting the same problem.
So I'm cleaning all my grounds.
I found there's an old there was like an old fusible link
in the charging circuit on that.
And I'm like, well, you know, maybe there's a.
So I went to a pick and pull and I found it and I swapped that out.
And I swap I'm swapping out a bunch of parts.
And it I can't I can't correct it.
If I would rev it up, the charge light would go away.
But I would be at idle in gear.
I would get this charge. I'm like, fuck.
So I go, you know what?
I'm going to fire the parts candidate.
Fuck it. I pull the starter back out after doing all this other work.
I put it. I put a remand starter in it.
Perfect. Great. Huh. Done.
Solved. I don't know why a bench tested OK.
I trust that he actually did it.
I don't know. Right.
Random part aftermarket parts counter guys making $11 an hour.
And doubt that that's bad thing.
But like he's not a an engineer and electrical, you know, right.
Diagnostition. So.
I don't know.
But that was like the inverse of like this was the known bad part
that tested good when I went to buy a known good part.
Yeah. And but there's lots of like if the test isn't done right,
like, and then you have like a false positive, right?
Like so like EGRs, you can make the diaphragm move up and down with a vacuum
like a hand vacuum.
You're like, Oh, my EGR is good, except you're supposed to do that.
Put the vacuum on it and then wait to see if it leaks out
because that means the diaphragm is leaking.
Yeah. So a lot of people just do it and like, Oh, plunger moves.
EGR is good. Yeah.
No, bro. If it does it and then like it's right back down.
Yeah. It's essentially leak down.
It's not good. So sometimes doing those tests or you go EGR is great.
It's got to be something else.
We're like, no, man.
Like, yeah, the EGR valve is working fine, but the car is never getting
signal to actually send, send, you know, vacuum to the EGR valve, right?
You just got to, you got to go to the next step upstream,
but people just will do that.
But yep, it's good, you know.
Yeah. That's an extra nightmare scenario.
It's an ECU.
Yeah. When do you, don't say it, what do you think you fixed an issue
and you've ruled that out and that still is a goddamn issue.
So you're troubleshooting around that, the known issue,
which is actually the real cause, but EGRs are like that.
And then like it's like my track or like the EGR is fine,
but now the intake manifold, all the EGR runners are fucking full.
Like, you have to take the intake manifold off.
Whole other story there.
But another nightmare scenario, diagnostic diagnostics,
I think trip up most like DIYers or mechanics.
I hate it, but it's also so fun.
It's so fun.
But like one of the hardest things is diagnosing a sound.
I think those can be the absolute most challenging.
So my 07 legacy spec be one of the best cars I ever owned out
of it for seven years.
All of a sudden I was driving and under like boost
would make a whistling sound and you're like, oh, fucking turbo.
You know, you haven't sat it had lower mileage.
So I wasn't too worried about the turbo.
And I'm like, it could be anywhere.
It could be on the intake guide.
It could be the exhaust side.
It could be anything, right?
And if you've ever worked on a boxer engine,
you know how much of a pain in the literal dick it is to get.
It's very complicated.
It's like tight in there.
The up pipe area, the down pipe area, everything's tight.
All the intake to the intercooler stuff.
Well, the pipes are tight.
So anyway, try to find the sound.
I take everything apart.
And it's a pain.
It's literally a pain in the dick.
Take everything off.
I replaced every gasket.
To be fair, if you're wrenching on your legacy
or anything else and you have literal pain in your dick,
you're probably doing it incorrectly.
Or correctly.
Or super like, or like super correctly.
Or correctly.
This is true.
Yeah, exactly.
So the funny thing is there's like a million unique gaskets
for all the different joints because the system is a flat engine.
It goes around at weird angles, replaced every gasket,
did really high quality ones like Grim Speed at the time.
So it's a big job.
It's a lot of money.
Get it all back together.
Go for a rip.
And I'm like, oh, my God, it's not doing it.
Not doing it then.
And I'm like, son of a, you know.
I'm talking like to take all that apart is hours.
Like little hours then put it all back together.
I'm like, you got to be fine, kid.
So the only thing I didn't touch was the up pipe.
And I'm like, God, it looked, it looked really good.
So I look the factory up pipe.
Yeah.
The factory up pipe has a flex section.
And so I'm like, let me just look at the flex section.
So I flex it a little perfect hairline crack.
So every time I was hitting boost, the up pipe was going.
So after market up pipe, we're good.
But those goddamn dude, just that job.
And it was a East Coast car.
Not super crusty, but that part of your car
gets all the water and snow damage.
Yeah.
And it's mostly just like mild steel.
And I broke three bolts taking all that stuff.
It like it was down for like a weekend plus to find a sound.
Like that's the worst.
Expending money to get rid of a sound like no performance
difference, no like maintenance difference, just
painting the dick work.
And then just to go for that.
When I went for that first drive on that Monday
and I was like, oh my God, it's fixed.
And then the it's like the most high pitch.
Like I, and I hate noises.
Like, you know, me, I can't say it at one point.
It's like drag to breaks.
Dragging is one of my other pet peeves.
But dude, just and then to swap out that up pipe,
which Matt taken everything fucking off the engine again.
Yeah.
Do you be blaster?
Can one go through?
Just like I was like one for you, one for me with the
plastic.
So I was I was getting drunk with the car.
But dude, just those those little things like
diagnosing sounds is like another always it can
it has the potential to really become a nightmare.
Suspension clunks.
Oh, I think it's this and you can get out of the car
and you can move the car.
It won't ever make the fucking same noise.
And then the second you drive it out of like your garage
and hit like a little pot hole or speed bump.
It's like and you're like, oh my God, exactly.
Where's a bridge bridge too far?
Yeah, it's I'm trying to remember.
It's funny.
So you mentioned you mentioned with that flex pipe.
I don't even remember which car of mine this was.
But it had it would have this intermission
intermittent.
Like stumble under more than like three quarter throttle.
You'd give it like those annoying.
If you would tow in it would be fine.
Fifty percent of throttle would be fine.
Give it much more than that, right?
Like you would punch it and it would it would shit the bed.
It was like, OK, like there's it's it's it's
there's some enrichment issue, right?
So and that's what it was presenting as.
And I don't even remember how I how I found it.
But what actually was happening was and all the hoses under the hood look great.
It was two fold.
It was worn motor mounts and there was some it was like a PCV line
or some some bigger vacuum hose that at idle or with the car off looked perfect.
But when you give it bigger throttle, it would move on the motor mounts
and there was like a split in the line that you couldn't see.
Until but there was enough play in the motor mounts.
It would pull it apart and it was just it would just suck in tons of unmetered air
and it would just hit the bed.
Yep. And yeah.
And that's what it was.
It was like, OK, it needs motor mounts.
That's fine. And I was just playing with like, oh, yeah.
Look how bad it needs motor mounts.
And then I'd like saw it at the corner of my eye.
I was like, oh, like this this line would just split open
and just like pull all this air.
We should be shit like, oh, that's my problem.
And sure enough, like I thought it was I thought it was like, you know,
it was getting either getting too much fuel or not enough fuel.
And it was just getting too much unmetered air.
And yeah, that was less of a nightmare.
More of just like, whoa, I'm glad I saw that at the right moment
because otherwise, you know, you know, unless I smoke tested everything,
I wasn't going to find it.
Unbelievable. But yeah, it's just like even the thing that gets me to
is like when it's on a good car and you run into one of these
like nightmare scenarios, right?
Like we we intentionally get ourselves into some of these situations.
Oh, sure. You know, we we see the red flag.
It's like women. You see, you see the red flag and you're like, I can.
Or men.
Have you or? Yeah.
Or sex bots or clinkers.
There's a lot of red flag in that in that clinker.
Those ones you kind of like set yourself up like emotionally
everything else, because you know, you're going to have to
you're going to have to deal with this eventually.
But when it happens to like a good running vehicle, like out of the blue
and then you're going down diagnostic hell.
Boy, those can become real nightmares real fast.
And I think we get some pretty good ones in.
This will be we'll make it more Halloweeny next year.
But just I don't know.
We talked about sex bots.
It's Halloween adjacent.
Fair. Yeah. Yeah.
So what I do want to hear is like, if any of our listeners
have had any absolute nightmare jobs,
dude, share it with us because misery fucking loves company.
Yeah, that that that's like adjacent to our like awful car stories
is awful car wrenching stories.
Oh, God, you know, we know you got some.
Yeah, like the you know, it's funny.
It's just a quick, a quick aside.
So when I was when I was in high school, a buddy
mine had a it was an 86 Camaro Iroxie.
It was like cream white with a brown interior.
Oh, he tops 305 TBI five speed.
And I had like all the Iroxie stuff.
And the wheels were like factory, like gold, like gold lettering.
And the wheels were like gold.
It wasn't gold.
They were like the the silver, but like with like the painted.
Yeah, gold accent and the accent.
Yes, yes. Uh-huh.
At the time, we gave them shit for it, right?
Because like he bought it.
He thought it was he thought it was a 350.
And then he figured out after like, oh, no, like two weeks later,
it's like, bro, the 350s were all auto.
I'm pretty sure.
And so we're like looking at like the emissions label under the hood.
Like, bro, this is five liter, you're fucked.
Even though I take a five liter, five speed over the 350, they actually,
I mean, they drive OK.
Like they're better. Yeah.
Better than a higher.
We did speaking of dumb car stories.
We did dumb car story stuff in that.
Let's just say when you're in high school in your home,
he's getting new tires and then you decide you need to make the old ones go away.
You do you do things in that car.
You recycle them.
Anyways, he basically he was like, oh, dude,
I think my transmission is fucked on this car.
I need a transmission.
So we're like, OK, it was it was he's like, yeah, like it just,
you know, I put it in whatever gear, like it's fine in first and second.
But if I put it in like third, like it just it just revs,
like I think it's like something like I think I blew third gear out of it
because again, doing dumb stuff and we're, you know, whatever, 17.
So OK, sure.
So we go to a pick and pull.
We drag another T five out of a car and pick and pull.
We get it to we took high school auto shop.
So we limp the car.
We put the transmission in the trunk of his Iraq.
We limp it over to the high school auto shop, put it in the air.
We drop the transmission on my my buddy almost drops it on his head.
Like he was a big dude, thankfully, he caught it.
He was like six three water polo player.
He caught it and was just like, we caught him and we just like
landed on the ground with the transmission to drop out of his car.
God damn. We do all of that.
We get in there. His clutches smoked.
Transmission was fine.
What was happening was first and second gear was fine.
But when you put it in the higher gear and you give it give it the beans,
it would torque just flare because the.
So it is flywheel was burnt, clutch was gone.
I don't I think we just put his original transmission back in it.
So we're like, I don't trust this like junkyard one.
Like I would keep the junkyard in it for sure, though.
Yeah, I don't remember what happened to it.
And and yeah, so we put it all.
So but that was just like, hey, we're kids.
We don't know.
We just assume we do the transmission and just know we smoke the clutch
because we were doing terrible things and we didn't really know how to drive
at five speed. Yeah.
Yeah, it's not a nightmare job, but you know, considering we almost died
and we had to go by a lot of mission for no for no reason.
Right. Good Lord.
Cool. But yeah, like I like the nightmare stuff.
We'll have to make it an anniversary thing every Halloween will celebrate.
Are you ready to get a little?
Well, this could be scary, depending on how you view this vehicle.
Oh, it's time, my friend, a spooky vehicle could be out.
Maybe. It's a bit of a mystery vehicle.
Rolls Royce Specter.
God damn it.
Nineteen, nineteen eighty five, the Silver Ghost.
All right, you mind intro and the the the show?
Well, I pull up this this absolutely ghoulish ad.
This is what's going to happen.
So this is our print ad quiz game.
Oh, boy, in today's rousing edition,
Chadwick has already discovered a perhaps spooky advertisement
from the 80s, the 90s to the mid 2000s.
He's going to read and describe this advertisement.
He's got his glasses on.
We are aging out over here.
And part of this is I will then after he reads the ad,
I get three guesses to try and figure out the make model
and approximate model here of the vehicle at hand.
I get 10 minutes.
I get three guesses.
I get hints if and when I get some guesses.
Maybe long. Please play along at home.
It's a bunch of fun yell at me, calling me a clown and an idiot
and a fraud when when you know what it is and I don't.
Yes, this is interactive.
I'm ready. Hopefully you are ready.
Chadwick, what you got?
What you got? Let's do it.
So we got a two page ad for you today.
Driver's side three quarter in the African Savannah
with a giraffe to giraffe giraffe.
I don't know if you pluralize giraffe.
I don't do this. I think you do giraffes.
I think it's giraffes.
I don't think it's like dry like what you're a fair.
I think it's just giraffe like you would here.
Do you? Oh, right.
I mean, they are long, dear.
I think that's what they are.
I prefer a John, dear.
But anyway, one of the one of the giraffes is looking at the vehicle.
Longingly, the headline, the H1 in the HTML world
is the most civilized way to leave civilization.
OK, all right.
It's a fun one, man.
Introvert, disco one. Done.
OK, here we go.
Within the limits imposed by certain unalterable laws of physics,
the new blank has the going deep,
has the capabilities to go practically anywhere.
It is tough.
It has a tough box frame chassis strategically placed steel skid plates.
Sure. And convenient shift on the fly
for a real drive. OK.
A hostile environment on the outside,
however, only serves to accentuate how comfortable the environment is on the inside.
Amenities like leather, a power moonroof and heated seats ensure that
this is a vehicle well suited to an exclusive restaurant
as it is to an extended African safari. OK. Wow.
I'll do both of those.
And one that more than lives up to its luxury nameplate, Frank.
Ah, luxury nameplate. OK.
That's a big one.
It's unique combination of strength and grace.
It's dedicated to the notion that your adventure should be wild and uncivilized,
but never your accommodations. Wow. OK.
This should pretty well written ad to be.
I'm into it so far. Yeah, I'm nearly sold.
I need some tech specs.
I think we have tech specs coming right up.
OK, good. This is good. All right.
Leather trimmed interior. Wow. OK.
Oversized power moonroof.
Oh, that's it.
It did power front seats, theft deterrent system.
It doesn't prevent. It just deters. Oh, fair.
Shift on the fly for a drive.
Dual airbags. OK.
One hundred and ninety horsepower.
This is what you've been waiting for.
B six single overhead cam.
Oh, oh, oh. Engine. Oh, OK.
Ninety point two cubic feet of cargo space.
Ninety point two cubic feet cargo space. OK.
The big one there was the hundred and ninety horsepower
B six of overhead cam motor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Frank.
Ten minutes on the clock.
What is the most civilized way to leave civilization?
Oh, man.
Boy, great reflexively good ad.
I don't know if it's great, but it's good.
It's fucking great.
You see, here's the thing in my head.
I'm like, oh, boy, like this absolutely reads like.
Like Lexus Alex, it reads like, you know,
Discovery one, Discovery two, Range Rover, right?
Like this is again, luxury nameplate.
Motor does not does not fit the bill here.
Hundred and ninety horsepower.
No displacement.
We didn't get a displacement, but it's an overhead cam.
A sock, if you will.
It's a sock.
It did say V six, V six.
Yes, yes, V six.
Hundred and ninety horsepower.
So with a luxury, it has to be true to a luxury nameplate.
Allegedly. Correct.
So that leads me to think of.
This could be an accurate SLX,
but I think that three and a half liter
made more than one hundred and ninety horsepower.
I want to say it was two thirty or two fifty.
I think it's model year dependent.
Like I think it was two fifty in the V across.
I don't know if it wasn't the SLX.
There's a pretty robust engine for sure.
Robust engine.
I want to say it made more than one hundred and ninety horsepower.
Luxury nameplate, that's making a body on frame SUV.
I would almost want to say like a
like a Land Rover Freelander,
because you have the two five V six.
Feels like a hundred and ninety horsepower would be about right.
Pretty sure those were unibody.
I don't think that's a body on frame vehicle.
But like, you know.
If this is an ML three twenty.
Boy, maybe.
Ooh, that might be it.
It might be an ML three twenty.
But I want to say that made more than one hundred and ninety.
You know, that's a two hundred and twenty, two hundred and thirty horsepower motor.
I don't know if it was down tuned for the ML three twenty.
But that's a body on frame luxury nameplate.
Boy, that might be that might be my first stab.
You know, I'm going to go back.
So for now to get the ball rolling, I'm going to say that this is.
A nineteen ninety eight Acura SLX.
Final answer, Bob.
The most civilized way to leave civilization, the Acura SLX.
Hundred ninety.
I thought it was more early.
So this is a ninety five the first year.
OK, they didn't have the three.
Was it not the three five?
Was it the three oh, I think it was a three oh to start.
The three five did the year you said ninety eight.
I think they did have the three five ninety eight ninety nine.
I know it was late nineties.
And that's when it went to, like you said, over two hundred and twenty horsepower.
So yeah, significant jump.
I'm one ninety is not bad for mid nineties, to be honest, though.
Yeah, that's fair.
Yeah.
So and dual airbags was a big deal for ninety five.
And I was going to bring that up dual airbags.
Here's the ad.
We'll see the giraffeies.
Yeah, God, that's a slick.
It's so good.
So what do you what is your good job?
First off, thank you nailed it.
Thank you. What do you how do you feel about the SLX?
I would like to own an SLX.
Now, I know it's just in a Zuzu trooper with second gen leather trim.
It's a second gen trooper, though, which was a huge upgrade in luxury over the
five. Let me tell you. Yeah.
You know, I would like to.
Frankly, Mealy, I don't know.
I don't know if I know enough about the all the full breadth of
differentiation between a trooper and an SLX, right?
Like, I know like trim leather amenities and trim.
But like, you know, did they have like, you know,
softer rubber bushings in the various, you know, it's the same.
It's or did they add more sound deadening?
No, they, you know, like the the glass is glassier.
Like, I don't know.
Like maybe nicer leatherette. Right.
Yeah, like, you know, the woodgrain is there's more wood to the grain.
Like, I don't I don't know.
I don't we need we need one complete sidebar.
I had a brief conversation yesterday with a gal
who used to work in Mitsubishi and I talked to her.
I was like, you know, I used to have a galant VR four.
She was like, I I organized the launch event for that car.
And I was like, oh, we need to talk later.
And like, I need that is killer.
Yeah. Yeah. She works for a really cool charity.
She used to work for Singer and Ferrari.
And but she started at Mitsubishi in the 80s, 90s killer.
Yeah. So we need to get one.
I like them. I like them a lot because I a I'm already predisposed to like them
because I love troopers so much.
They look killer, like the they're still boxy.
The two tone, like you said, and you could get like a green or a blue or like
it in between. It was like, yeah, these these color combos were brilliant.
And they're proper. That's a proper.
And the ad is not fucking around.
These really can go anywhere.
These were pretty serious off-road rigs, to be honest.
Oh, I found I found two.
I just did a quick search and I found a pair of them on
one is trash on Facebook Marketplace.
One is trash trash and three hundred dollars.
Here's a cool.
I'll send you a link later.
This makes for terrible radio, but I found one for thirty five hundred
dollars here and sixty three thousand miles.
It actually looks really, really, really clean, Frank.
Yeah, I'm going to look at that one tomorrow.
OK. Are you serious?
Yeah, yeah, I'm dead serious.
That's the one in Citrus Heights.
I'm not even looking at Craig's list right now.
Marketplace, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I talked to a guy.
I'm going to go check it out after work tomorrow.
Oh, bro, it looks so good.
There's some like door dings and stuff, but a PDR away from.
Yeah, look at like, look at like the left rear bumper.
Stop, stop.
Corner is no, no, no, I'm so I'm dog.
I'm fucking going there, dude.
So tomorrow. Yeah, it's really nice.
Can I be horny for you?
Yeah, you got it.
It looks so good.
Dude, it looks so good.
Are we already? Are we already?
Are we already doing the?
Should it be? Should that be it?
The thirty five hundred dollar or under luxury?
Oh, yeah, that's a tough one.
I mean, you can get a lot of Land Rover and get some mercury
mountaineer up in this bitch.
Yeah, Land Rover products for sure.
You could probably get an LR three.
Yeah, but I wanted to work.
They work. I'd go disco to disco.
Oh, they're a little pricier now.
Have you been looking at the disco prices?
No, I haven't looked at disco in a while.
Don't do it. Yeah, they've gone up a little bit.
No, I would need to be more, more shitty sub brand, right?
Like I would need to do I mean, S.
Alex is like the king of that.
Dude, so the best thing is you need to mention the ad.
It's a ninety nine.
So I do get the three five with that.
Yeah, we'll see. I'm not getting too excited.
The dude is like a little iffy.
Sure. One that I mentioned that I said all that stuff.
And he's like, sure.
Well, sometimes that ends up being good, right?
You sell them. But yeah, no.
But like, I mean, like, you know, shitty bedside manner
might chase a bunch of people off.
You write the fact that it's an accurate S.
Alex, probably. Well, fair.
Yeah, this is not some like air cooled Porsche
where like I'm getting a good deal because I'm the only one
to deal with this.
How good does it look, though?
It looks really good.
I know like greenish blue.
I've been so excited to just like I think it posted two days ago or something.
I messaged him immediately and I've kind of been working out.
But tomorrow I hope, dude, I hope I send you a picture
at a gas station with this this thing.
God, I'm trying to think I'm trying.
Oh, damn, you're getting like I'm just rolling down and here's like a.
Here's a rover at like 14 grand.
Told you. Yeah, it sucks, dude.
Yeah, but yeah, OK.
Well, no, I mean, I'm excited.
That's fun. I'm excited.
You know what I would do if, you know, honestly,
if we're going to play like honestly,
$3,500, $4,000 off-roader, that's kind of interesting.
I'd go for like a Honda Passport original first gen.
I think that's similar vein to this.
Another robust.
I mean, it's genuine.
It's about as literally you can get.
Yeah, rodeo with the Honda badge.
I like how those look, by the way.
I think they look killer.
Yeah, sports.
Yeah, you know what?
I would need to get a JDM.
God, the Honda.
What was it called?
Where they rebadged,
they rebadged the original discovery as a Honda in Japan.
Oh, I'm stumbling.
I forgot what it's called.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Yeah, it's like very clearly a discovery,
but with like a Honda grill,
like a great Honda grill on it.
So I know you were saying it,
but this this is essentially a trooper.
I think they just changed the badging
and I think they upgraded the interior materials.
They didn't change anything mechanically.
So what I do is mechanically,
I know it's no, I'm talking like didn't touch bushings,
didn't adjust anything to feel different.
You know what I'm saying?
Sometimes they'll adjust the suspension like rates.
Nope, it's a trooper second gen trooper.
Man, all right, you get that.
I'll get a Mazda Navajo and I like that.
Yeah, it was fucking really good.
Yeah, we'll have we'll have like a rebadge.
That should be it, just rebadge SUV.
Good, those two would look great together, by the way.
They would, I mean, the side would be pretty significant.
Significant, yeah.
But they kind of have the same like style though.
So they look kind of period.
They never made, help me out here.
They never made a Mercury mountaineer
from the first gen.
Did not explore, right?
Only the second gen?
Second gen.
So you had Explorer and then Navajo
and then Navajo went away and you had everything.
God, how sick would it have been
if they made a Lincoln first gen Explorer?
Could have been dope.
Could have been really dope.
Interior would have been awesome.
It would have been plush.
It felt like the Lincoln, I don't know, John Wilkes.
Like I don't know what you would call it like.
I mean, that's probably their first thing.
That's probably their first thing.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, the Mary Todd.
I think you got it.
Well, anyway, not to bury the lead,
but yeah, I'm gonna go check that bad boy out tomorrow.
Hopefully he hasn't sent me the address.
It's one of those weird guys,
like I'll send it to you tomorrow.
I'm like, ah.
Well, you can send it to me now.
Yeah, right?
Like he thinks you're like, he's gonna wake up
and you're gonna be like sleeping in the car
in his garage.
I've come for your SLX.
But no, I'm super.
When that thing popped up, I'm like, yep.
Sick.
That's cool.
Question, does that mean you have
Acura SLX as a saved search?
Of course, you know I do.
That's fucking good.
You fucking know me, bro.
Right, right, right.
Do you think they've, I'm gonna look real quick
because this again, this makes for fantastic audio.
Do you think Cars and Bids or Bring a Trailer
has ever sold an Acura SLX?
If I was gonna venture, I guess
I think Cars and Bids might have run one.
I just look, Cars and Bids
has not sold an Acura SLX.
No.
Bring a Trailer, I search Acura SLX
and it just gives me a Zuzu Trooper results.
Like it doesn't even, it just, that's what you get.
I know they're pretty fucking rare.
I know they've sold one.
Here it is, a 96 SLX, 63,000 miles.
Oh, red over gold, which is cool.
Is that a good two-tone cloth interior?
Oh wow.
What do you think it sold for?
190 horsepower, which we know.
Yep, yep.
It probably sold for like 7,800 bucks.
11,250.
Shocking.
So you need to get yourself on this SLX.
Yeah, this one has 163,000,
so probably not gonna get there for that kind of value,
but it is nice.
It is nice looking.
Yeah, cool.
It's honestly becoming my fishing rig if I grab it,
so I need some more beater-ish.
Yeah, I mean, I have that in my Suburban, but.
Yeah, you do.
And I have to get into fishing, I suppose,
if that's what I'm gonna do, but.
It's an easy thing to get into, my friend.
Well, Mike, the kid, today and yesterday,
he's like, I really wanna go fishing,
I really wanna go fishing, and I'm not a fisher,
I'm not against it, like, don't care.
But I'm like, okay, yeah, let's do it.
And so like, maybe we need to do this.
We should do it.
We need to do a fishing rig adventure situation.
And we've got enough rods and reels,
and plus Teddy's like, literally the same age as your son.
Literally, like, I think it's a week apart,
so we could make that happen, man.
And we could go in the SLX, how cool would that be?
Hell yeah.
You take the SLX, I'll take my Mazda Navajo
that I've yet to locate.
And yeah, we will do this, I'm into it.
I support you in this Tom Fullery.
Excellent.
Fantastic.
Well, let's celebrate.
You did nail that, dude.
If anyone's gonna come out of the woodwork
with an Acura SLX first-turn rip.
Oh, you got the money gun loaded?
Oh, you fucking know it.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We need more money for the money gun.
It's got 10 bucks in it.
I know, we need more than that.
We need, I don't know.
Well, when we start plugging our Patreon,
we can make, please, oh.
Yes.
Please fund the money gun, the make it rain gun.
Should that be it?
Like, we should have an, a dollar.
I assume, here's the thing, I assume.
Well, no, I assume on Patreon that, I mean,
obviously, like, I'm sure you just like,
sign up with your credit card or PayPal or whatever.
Okay.
I don't know, do you think there's a way
where you can be like,
send individual bills every month?
Like mail five singles to this new box.
Not only do I don't believe that's a thing,
I think they are vehemently against that policy,
sending cash to them.
You're right, actually, because I bet you,
because it probably cuts Patreon out of the deal.
Exactly.
So then I get their cut.
Damn.
How about we celebrate your victory,
not just with dollar bills, with PCP, man.
Project, car, progress.
Frank, have you done any wrenching?
Oh boy, not really.
All I'm going to do is,
I still have all of the things.
I might be getting another other car in here.
We talked about it.
Robert Epley, friend of the podcast,
has his Shipbox Triumph.
Oh yeah.
We talked about briefly before.
We've just been, we've been ships passing in the night,
but hopefully this week I will get it over here.
I did discover it's got $500 in back due DMV on it,
which might be roughly 40% of the value of the car.
Right.
So we'll see what happens there.
There's kind of no way around dealing with that
because we also don't have a title.
Yeah.
So to get a title, you got to pay the fees.
So you got to pay to play.
So that's what we're figuring out there.
I'm hoping as early as real world tomorrow,
not podcast world tomorrow,
by the time you listen to this,
hopefully it will be sorted out.
But that's in waiting in the wings.
I finally also got in the actual,
for the umpteenth attempt,
the actual bushing, not bushing,
undamaged bushing,
torque arm transmission mount for the Sprint Turbo.
Oh, nice.
A few weeks ago, it was like, okay, I got the one in,
it's bad, like the bushing is kind of tearing
out of its mount already.
It feels squishier and softer and worse
than the bad one I'm taking out of the car.
So I returned it.
I made the exact, I'm gonna return it.
They took it back.
I paid an extra like $8 to like overnight the new one.
Guess what?
It still took two fucking weeks.
So we went back, right?
And I was like, hey, like, did they call me?
And so I was like, hey, like, it's $8.
I'm not gonna like be upset about it,
but like I paid extra money to get it two days
instead of eight days and it took 15 days.
Can I get that money back?
And then I was like, oh yeah, yeah, no,
that makes sense for sure.
And he's like fighting his computer
and he's like, oh, it won't let me,
can I just like give you a $10 like auto zone gift card?
I'll put in the computer that you gave me a battery core
and I'm giving you a $10 merchandise credit
on a gift card.
That dude's getting fired.
I'm like, sure, that's fine.
Like, I don't care.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah, cause I can't...
Then I was like, wait, you just buy cores
even if I don't have a core return.
Like I can just show up at the battery core
and you'll give me $10 at least and store credit for it.
He's like, oh yeah, yeah, we buy cores.
I was like sick.
I have six cores.
I just like, there's two over here.
I have a couple on my side yard.
I have one, God, I have one in something.
I'm gonna like pull out.
Frank's got a dozen of them in the stream,
but I'm gonna just roll in and just be like,
give me $50 and store credit dog
for these like absolute disaster-ish shithouse batteries.
So yeah, that's it.
Other than like, I'm still kind of redoing the garage.
This is the new, I got a new toolbox over here.
Heavily discounted at the local Home Depot.
It was like 300 bucks.
Oh shit, that's a good deal.
Like a Husky, whatever.
Yeah, dude.
So I'm gonna stuff it between these two cabinets.
And yeah, hopefully put a lift in here.
Maybe sooner than later,
the background will have a lift back there.
That would be cool.
It'd be cool to see like a,
like the bottom half of a car like up here
because there's something elevated back up over there.
That'd be right.
That'd be killer.
Well, at least you did PCP.
I literally did PCP that yielded no positive results.
You did the drug PCP.
I did, well, that's the first problem
is I started with the real drug PCP
before I tried my project car progress.
I have an idea.
Yeah.
Sorry to interrupt.
You're not getting anything done
other than hopefully tomorrow buying a car.
Should that be after dark episode number one?
We actually try actual PCP.
God damn dude.
We're not dying on the first episode.
That's a patriotic, full positive.
But maybe 50, like what's, like how many?
LD 50.
No, no, I'm saying like how many bonus episodes
like after dark late night confidential episodes
is it that we, till we, is it once a year?
Once a year we try a new drug that we've never done before.
We're not earning enough.
Which in my case is kind of all of them.
Yeah, we're not earning enough for PCP.
We're not even making crack money.
So we know.
No, but I'm saying is hopefully in a year.
Oh, meh, let's, let's.
We can at least, PCP is pretty, I assume.
I don't know.
I don't know any, like, I can like.
We know.
We can get edibles.
I don't know anyone who can get PCP.
Do you?
Do you know a guy?
Do you have a guy who knows that?
We can, of course, but we can legitimately do an episode
on edibles, that'd be fine.
But I did actually get some work done.
It just didn't result in anything.
So the Volvo airbag light.
Sprinting in place.
Oh no.
The vein of my existence.
The pallet.
I finally got a Volvo scan tool,
which is cool because I can go in create.
Volvos are pretty complex, even in the early to mid 2000s.
The safety features.
Volvo's always been a pioneer in the field.
So.
What's the acronym?
What's that?
Isn't there like an acronym, like on the, on the,
like the B pillar, it's like the S.I.
It's not SIDS, but it's something like that.
Like the side impact.
It's the opposite of the SIDS that keeps you alive.
It's like SIPs.
It's like SIPs, S-I-P-S, right?
Oh yeah, it is SIPs.
Yep.
So you go in there and I see what the thing is.
It's like a high resistance on the seat belt tensioner
on the driver's side.
Right.
So, which could be one of five million things.
So I start tearing apart the B pillar.
I hate messing with plastics.
We talk about this all the time.
Take it all off.
I take every connector off and clean it
because a dirty connector kicks that light up more times
and not, or you had something loose disconnected
while you connected the battery back up
and that light will stay permanently
until you fix the issue and then reset it again.
I went under the seat, unbolted the driver's seat,
pulled it up.
As you know from me redoing the passenger seat,
there are five million connectors under this seat
from 2005, which wasn't the connect,
yeah, usually like 4.98 million.
Yeah, Niners.
So I took every one out,
painted the dick on doing all those connectors
in a weird cramped space, cleaned them,
put it all back together.
Everything's testing test of resistance
like I'm supposed to on every fucking connection.
Perfect resistance.
I'm like, okay, cool.
Maybe the cleaning helped.
Put it all back together, reset the light,
the airbag light goes off,
but airbag light comes right back,
comes right back, SRS issue.
I'm like, I just want to die.
So it could be the pretensioner for the seatbelt,
which is a safety feature.
If you get in an accident,
it tightens your seatbelt instantly.
Sometimes those fail over time
and you lose that ability,
you can't tell you lost that ability
until you get in an accident.
So I might just fucking just wing it
and try to buy a used known good pretensioner.
They're like 80 bucks and it's a pain in the dick.
I don't know where I'm at with that.
It can be sorted.
It's just how much time do I want to keep
putting into this little thing?
Obviously the car work, everything works.
It's not an airbag isn't going to deploy issue.
It's just the tensioner.
The tensioner's gaining some resistance fault
in the wiring and I didn't see any damaged wires.
I don't know.
I'm chasing my tail on this one.
It's taking way too much time,
but Volvo safety, God bless it, right?
God bless it.
Yeah, until you get like an airbag deploy
in your skull because of a SOS fault or Sims fault or whatever.
Yeah, this light has nothing to do with the airbag.
So it's like, it's not a safety concern,
which is like what I was really worried about
when the passenger seat was cut out by a knife wielding,
I don't even know, tweaker.
But yeah, that's all I got.
So chasing that issue,
but I just want to point out that like,
I think I'd rather do a time and belt job
than take apart an inferior and start messing with like,
I don't know, fucking sensors and wiring.
That's a goddamn nightmare.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's frustrating.
Yeah, it's just, I don't,
because yeah, what do you do?
Like, we were just discussing about the parts cannon, right?
And unless you have extreme,
heavy specific diagnostic tools and scan tools,
and even then they can lead you down in a wrong direction.
Sure.
And I'm not taking my $2,000 rally car
to a fucking Volvo dealer to have them run up
like four hours of diagnostic work to say,
it could be this and it could be this,
because that's what it ends up being
with these complicated systems.
Well, we're going to start with like four hours of dyag
and then we're going to...
At that point, I'll just swap out the tensioner
and see it's worth the shot, right?
All right, we're over, we're over on time.
Take us home, I'm really depressed.
Let's get in.
If you have dreadful or fantastic
legal or illegal car story questions or questions,
answers to questions, questions to answers,
things to tell us, stories to tell,
just hop on the Instagram machine and send us a message
without outlying what the story is.
We're going to do Instagram for now.
I think there's like weird character limit shit,
so we'll probably do something different in the future.
Fair enough.
But yeah, we'll figure that out.
Even just send us a message saying like,
I've got a cool story and in your email address
and we'll get you hooked up,
but we want to collect some of those.
So hopefully in a month or two,
we will have a small collection.
So once a week, we can be like,
hey, check out this story from Bob Anonymous
or Sally Tootix or whomever.
We'll give you a clever alias.
None of those were clever,
but we'll make a clever one for you.
And so that's fun.
If you want to stalk me, you should or shouldn't,
but that's the photographer's garage, Instagram,
a splash on YouTube.
But most importantly, just keep coming back here.
Another pointless automotive podcast.
I get to talk more off the cuff here than elsewhere.
So please do that.
Chadwick, if somebody wants to send you grotesque
very forward messages to you or see what you're up to,
how do they do that?
Yeah, please do.
Frank's restraining order threats are fucking hollow
and weak, just that stock away.
With me, I will, dude, I'll open my arms up invitingly.
I bring it on, bring your stocking.
No, if you want to find out how I survive
or don't survive the track or EGR issues
and the Volvo airbag issues, tune into Auto Obscure Garage
for all your rescues, restorations and reviews.
You can watch me hating life right now.
I'm so excited for your SLX content coming up.
Oh, don't curse it, man.
It's not there.
Yeah, I'm feeling, I'm very, very iffy on this one.
But yeah, in Homeboy opened a profile,
just one item for sale ever.
He's done three posts in three years.
It's not good, but we'll see.
We live dangerously, but yeah.
Like Frank said, tell us your stories.
We love you and we'll see you in, I don't know, seven days.
Yeah, that sounds good.
All right, until then, enjoy Turkey.
Oh yeah, Thanksgiving.
Wait, you've already enjoyed Turkey.
You have.
I hope it's great.
Have leftovers, make a sandwich.
Sandwich.
As the late great, I'm already fluttering here.
I'm already fluttering here.
It's okay, we're totally on time.
That's the late great Warren Zavon once said,
enjoy every sandwich.
Okay, later guys.
Peace.
About this episode
Dive into a lively chat filled with wrenching horror stories, from a troublesome 280ZX turbo with a hidden head gasket issue to a friend's Mustang GT plagued by shoddy repairs and a mysteriously placed kill switch. The hosts also share their frustrations with faulty new parts, tricky diagnostics, and elusive noises that lead to hours of labor. The episode wraps with a fun ad quiz guessing a 90s Acura SLX, plans for upcoming project cars, and a call for listeners to share their own nightmare automotive tales.
A little late for Halloween, but here we are to haunt you with dreadful tales of garage sessions gone awry, project cars curses, and mechanical goblins sure to rend your soul from its meaty carapace. Enjoy.