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Episode 22: Empire Bin State Of Mind (feat. Josh Boerman)

Episode 22: Empire Bin State Of Mind (feat. Josh Boerman)

Tran Girlismo Jul 16, 2026 126 min
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About this episode

Podcast banter turns into a wide-ranging drive through microcars, EV practicality, and city policy. The hosts discuss Fiat’s Topolino plan for the U.S., including its low-speed limits and how it can flip if you crank the wheel. They critique a small EV’s “no fast charging” setup and debate K-cars, armored “bulletproof windows,” and what “performance” should mean. Later, the conversation shifts to New York’s “empire bins” and parking tradeoffs, then ends with gas-price politics and a Valero/Freedom Fuel detour.

Technical Too Afraid to Ask
Car

Hyundai Ioniq 5

"My favorite thing about my favorite murder is that I got an ad in my Ioniq 5 For a podcast that they were doing that was sponsored by the Hyundai Ioniq 5"

The Hyundai Ioniq 5 is an electric car from Hyundai. It’s the specific model mentioned here because the host got a podcast ad while driving it.

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Topic

decline of empire

"today's show we have we have a top we have mostly topics about the decline of empire in honor of Josh"

The hosts are using a bigger theme—“decline of empire”—to organize the conversation. The car-company mentions are part of that larger commentary.

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Brand

Stellantis

"We've got a couple of episodes without humiliating Stellantis, which is the 14 car companies in a trench coat that Runs among others Dodge Jeep, Rampujo, Abarth Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Maserati"

Stellantis is a big car company that owns a bunch of different car brands. It’s the company behind names like Dodge and Jeep in the U.S., and also brands like Alfa Romeo and Maserati.

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Fiat Topolino
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Fiat Topolino

"Fiat is offering the topolino in the United States And the topolino has been that it's based on the citrone. I mean"

The Fiat Topolino is a very small car Fiat is trying to sell in the U.S. It’s related to a Citroën design, and in Europe it’s treated like a special kind of small vehicle (a quadricycle), which changes the rules it has to follow.

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Car

Truck Slate Ev

"Um So we after last week's episode about the slate EV we now have news about another confusing cheap EV..."

The podcast is talking about a truck, likely an electric one, in the context of a “cheap EV.” A truck is a vehicle built for carrying things or doing work, and electric versions have to deal with battery range and charging. The episode seems to be questioning what’s going on with that kind of vehicle.

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quadricycles

"Which is Qual like it's classed as a quadro cycle in Europe. They've been selling it since I think about 2020 or 2021"

A quadricycle is a category used in Europe for very small, light vehicles. It usually means the vehicle has different rules than a regular car, which can make it easier to sell and drive in certain places.

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Brand

Citroën

"And the topolino has been that it's based on the citrone. I mean"

Citroën is a car brand from France. Here, the host says the Fiat Topolino is based on a Citroën design, which helps explain why it’s such a small city vehicle.

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street legal kit

"And the intent appears to be until they start selling the street legal kit That they're going to sell these to gated communities and country clubs as a substitute for an ATV or a golf cart"

A street legal kit is a set of changes that makes a vehicle allowed to drive on public roads. It usually adds the required lights and safety features so it meets local rules.

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Car

Renault Twizy

"The Twizy the little the little Renault, yes, it's actually the same class as that in Europe It's it's the quad recycles is basically a the the idea behind it"

The Renault Twizy is a tiny European car designed mainly for slow city driving. They’re comparing the Topolino to it to explain that these are small, neighborhood-style vehicles rather than normal cars.

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batteries

"Because despite the fact that its batteries are really low in the frame It's basically on bicycle tires and at 28 miles an hour if you crank the wheel it will just flip"

They’re talking about where the battery sits in the vehicle. Putting heavy batteries low can help stability, but if the tires are narrow and you turn hard, it can still feel like it might tip over.

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bicycle tires

"It's basically on bicycle tires and at 28 miles an hour if you crank the wheel it will just flip"

They mean the tires are more like bicycle tires—narrow and not very grippy. That makes it easier to lose balance if you turn sharply.

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Car

Dodge Ram

"This can next to a Dodge Ram. Just immediately sent me back to being a teenager in the middle of a Houston"

A Dodge Ram is a big pickup truck. The speaker is using it as a reference point for a scary driving situation.

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destination fee

"This costs about $15,000 after destination fees it has 46 miles of range off of a five kilowatt hour battery"

Destination fees are extra charges the dealer/manufacturer adds to cover getting the car to the dealership. It’s part of the final price you pay beyond the base sticker price.

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miles of range

"This costs about $15,000 after destination fees it has 46 miles of range off of a five kilowatt hour battery"

Range is how far the car can go on one full charge. “46 miles of range” means you’d expect to drive about 46 miles before it needs charging.

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kilowatt hour battery

"This costs about $15,000 after destination fees it has 46 miles of range off of a five kilowatt hour battery"

That’s the size of the battery in the EV. A “five kilowatt hour” battery is on the small side, so the car can’t go as far before it needs charging.

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fast charging

"There is no fast charging you just plug it into the wall and then it charges because it's a fight"

Fast charging is the kind of charging that gets you back on the road quickly. The host is saying this car doesn’t support that, so you have to rely on slower charging at home or wherever you can plug in.

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charging an e-bike

"It's like charging an e-bike at that point basically and the thing is is like I"

They’re basically saying the charging is like an e-bike: you plug it in and wait. It’s not the quick “top up at a station” style charging you might expect from bigger EVs.

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Place

Grand Army Parkway

"Complicated interchange like in New York, for instance, if you were to go to Grand Army Parkway, or really honestly any"

This is a road in New York the host mentions to describe how stressful driving can be there. They’re using it as an example of tricky city driving conditions.

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Place

Ocean Parkway

"Of the parkways where you have to go a little faster than the speed limit you'd be gripping for dear life even on Ocean Parkway, which is not as insane as it used to be"

Ocean Parkway is a road in New York. The host is saying even on this one, driving can feel intense if you’re going faster than the speed limit.

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Car

Chevrolet Suburban

"Just thinking that this car is violence that has the capacity to violence was one of the weirder taglines for the Chevy suburban You gotta come by honesty"

The Chevrolet Suburban is a big, family-size SUV. The host is joking about how some versions (or the way people talk about them) can sound like they’re meant to be tough and protective.

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EV

"But they I did make an EV with 40 miles of range exactly left work in Reno, Nevada I think I think for me it is like if I wanted to be paying"

EV means electric vehicle—an electric car that runs on battery power. The host is talking about how far EVs can go before needing a charge.

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Place

Reno, Nevada

"But they I did make an EV with 40 miles of range exactly left work in Reno, Nevada I think I think for me it is like if I wanted to be paying"

Reno, Nevada is being used as the real-world starting point for an EV range anecdote. The host is implying that the stated range was enough (or not enough) for a specific commute-like trip.

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mo-ped

"[1432.7s] I would just get a high-quality moped or something like that because yeah, then I actually get to enjoy greater mobility"

A moped is a small motorbike that’s usually slower and easier to handle than a regular motorcycle. It’s often used for short trips and is generally simpler to park and store.

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Topic

concierge-style mobility vehicles

"[1459.0s] Concierge cars and country clubs. I look at that replacing they are going to stunt on people who [1466.2s] How much your golf park costs? It's it's like the worst people in Florida are gonna love this thing ... [1549.5s] You know three quarters of a mile away from there and that's like kind of what I yeah"

They’re talking about how resorts could use small vehicles to shuttle guests around like a luxury service. The idea is convenience and comfort—less walking, easier parking, and a more “premium” arrival.

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golf carts

"[1523.4s] Distance measurable in miles not full miles, but like enough and I would usually walk or whatever [1527.8s] But they always had golf carts or whatever"

Golf carts are small vehicles used around golf courses and resorts. They’re slow, easy to drive, and convenient for getting people around a property.

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Pope Mobile

"But look at how easy it would be to rig this thing up into a popemobile genuinely like it's perfect [1636.7s] Yeah, I think you could pick the Pope up and tip him"

A popemobile is the special car the Pope rides in during public events. It’s designed so people can see him clearly and he can wave safely.

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Car

BMW i3

"... someone rolling one of these provides me the BFW I3 is a beautiful wonderful little egg shaped car Th..."

The BMW i3 is an electric car, meaning it runs on electricity instead of gasoline. It’s a small car designed to be practical for everyday driving, especially in cities. The podcast calls it a distinctive-looking “little egg,” which is a common way people describe its shape.

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Topic

SCCA auto cross events

"Do you know they're bad from SCCA auto cross events? [1665.5s] No, really want to tip real bad. They want to go."

Autocross is a racing event where you drive a car through a cone-filled course as fast as you can. SCCA is the organization that runs a lot of these events.

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250 miles per hour

"Yeah, they're gonna have to ban these two. Yeah, which is a shame because 25 miles per hour [1677.1s] They were also I saw maybe this was just"

They’re talking about a vehicle that’s limited to about 25 mph. That kind of low speed can make it hard to use safely in normal traffic, so people argue about whether it should be allowed.

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707 horsepower

"Want 707 horsepower in my in my rope door topolito. Wait, so it's just like a generate like an off-board"

Horsepower is a number that roughly tells you how strong the engine is. Higher horsepower usually means the car can accelerate harder.

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Car

three series

"A few years ago when I was in LA I rented a three series and I gotta say it's a it's a nice car It's a nice car. I mean, obviously, that's a fucking cliche thing to say But like it there's there's something about the way that one of those bad boys handles that"

They’re talking about the BMW 3 Series, a popular BMW model that’s meant to feel sporty to drive. They rented one and liked the way it handled.

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Car

BMW M2

"I can't stand modern BMW steering. They last good car. They made was the 2016 M2. Okay. Yeah"

They’re praising the 2016 BMW M2 as a particularly good BMW. It’s a small, sporty coupe that tends to feel more “connected” and fun to drive than newer BMWs.

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Car

I7

"No, there's the I7 isn't bad because it's like sedate, but as far as other sports handling stuff It feels crazy, but go out."

They mean the BMW i7, which is BMW’s big electric luxury car. They’re saying it feels calmer than other sporty BMWs, so they don’t hate it.

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Car

Toyota Super

"...y My first car my first car ever owned was a 1988 Toyota Super Turbo, okay, which was Like my gateway into enthu..."
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Chevrolet Corvette

"But my grandpa had a Chevrolet Corvette and I believe it was an 89 And Corvette convertible and so when I was a little kid riding around in that thing."

The Chevrolet Corvette is a famous American sports car. Here, the speaker talks about a Corvette convertible from around 1989 that they rode in as a kid—back then it felt like an exciting dream car, even if it wasn’t as fast as today’s cars.

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faster to 60

"Right, it's like the because horsepower wars but in 1989 probably had like what 212 horsepower or something Yeah, had had basically as much as my my friendly little electric crossover. Yeah, yes Yes, well because your electric crossover is probably faster to 60 by quite a bit too"

“Faster to 60” means how quickly a car can go from 0 to 60 miles per hour. The speaker is saying modern electric cars often reach that speed much quicker than older sports cars did.

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horsepower wars

"As you put it the horsepower wars and just in general The the idea was to just have a zippy little thing that you could have fun in rather than just go shmonstrosity"

“Horsepower wars” means people and car companies competing to make cars with bigger and bigger power numbers. It’s basically chasing the biggest “power” bragging rights.

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quarter mile

"Pony cars to muscle car war era versus now are two very different things where it's like, you know a Quarter mile should not be measured in sub 10 seconds, you know, that's probably yeah"

The “quarter mile” is a common drag-racing track length. “Sub-10 seconds” means the car can go that distance in under 10 seconds from a standing start.

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Car

Toyota Gr86

"It's why I don't know G a GR 86 is about as Compelling to me as anything else. Um, yeah, I got I wish there was a version of I"

The Toyota GR 86 is a small, fun sports car that’s meant to be enjoyable to drive, not just fast on paper. The host is basically saying it hits the right balance.

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Fiat 500

"I got I wish there was a version of I Wish they still made the fiat 500 of Barth God, yeah, I was just hey there. They're about as cheap as they're ever gonna get now"

The Fiat 500 is a tiny city car that’s easy to drive around town and usually cheaper than bigger cars. The host is talking about it as a fun, small option.

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Car

Honda Fit

"If you what if you want like a normal sensible car with chronic illnesses that is also a stick May I recommend a Honda fit because that bad boy is going to go up until it doesn't anymore"

The Honda Fit is a small hatchback that’s practical for everyday life. The host recommends it because it’s a sensible car you can still drive with a manual transmission.

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B spec

"Rest in peace. I don't return a thousand miles on it though. So yeah, there used to be a B-spec you used to be able to enter that into sec a club racing in"

“B-spec” is a racing category that sets rules for how much you’re allowed to modify a car. It’s meant to keep competition fair by limiting the upgrades.

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throw coils

"Yeah, it was that Yeah, you throw coils on that it'll pick up the inside wheel. It's awesome. See I feel okay"

“Throw coils” means adding coilovers—upgraded suspension parts that can change how the car sits and how it absorbs bumps. The speaker is saying that with that kind of setup, the car can get the inside wheel to lift during hard cornering.

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inside wheel

"Yeah, it was that Yeah, you throw coils on that it'll pick up the inside wheel. It's awesome. See I feel okay"

The “inside wheel” is the wheel on the inside of a turn (the side closer to the apex). When it lifts, it usually indicates high lateral load transfer and a suspension/traction setup that allows the car to become light on that side during cornering.

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tune

"They literally this you literally cannot tune the new Corvette or"

A “tune” is when someone changes the car’s computer settings to change how it runs. The speaker says the newer Corvette is set up so that changes can cause warning codes and other safeguards to kick in.

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engine code

"It would basically just throw every engine code and tell you"

An “engine code” is like a computer message the car saves when it detects something wrong. The speaker is saying that messing with the car would likely trigger those messages.

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Company

GM

"GM would dispatch a wetworks team"

GM (General Motors) is the automaker behind brands like Chevrolet and the Corvette. The host attributes the response to GM, implying the manufacturer would intervene if the car were tampered with.

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GM team six

"GM team six to your location. I [2249.5s] Their kill rate is just so low because they so rarely make it to the destination."

“GM team six” is a joke about GM sending a special team quickly. The point is that the manufacturer would react fast to problems or tampering.

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Place

Renaissance center

"I guess where is GM not they closed down the rents in it is in Detroit [2267.6s] I just don't think they're the primary tenants of the Renaissance Center"

The Renaissance Center is a famous office complex in Detroit. The speaker is using it as a reference point for where GM is based.

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Car

Chevrolet Blazer EV

"...ted by the amount of st. They're not arranged the Blazer EV There's the the combined IMSA and Indy car race t..."

The Chevrolet Blazer EV is an electric SUV, meaning it runs on electricity instead of gasoline. An SUV is a bigger family-style vehicle that’s often used for everyday driving. The podcast brings it up as one of the EVs being discussed in the news.

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Chrysler New Yorker

"...w He could offer us some unique insights into the New Yorker mind. Yes, because this began under"

The Chrysler New Yorker is a large, comfortable car that was made to feel more luxurious than a regular sedan. It’s the kind of vehicle people associate with a more traditional, comfort-focused driving experience. The podcast mentions it as a way to talk about the kind of mindset or lifestyle it represents.

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Chrysler Fifth Avenue

"...bad happen on trash day, and it's even worse It's Fifth Avenue. This is the wealthiest bit of shopping maybe in ..."

The Chrysler Fifth Avenue is a large luxury sedan, meaning it’s built to be comfortable and feel upscale. The name is often linked to a more “high-end” image. In the podcast, it’s mentioned to describe that kind of wealth-and-shopping association.

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Challenger Hellcat

"...a of the ram brand the the way that like You know hellcat owners make videos of themselves when they rip th..."

The Challenger is a muscle car, which means it’s built for strong acceleration and a sporty feel. The podcast mentions it because some owners—especially high-power versions—like to drive aggressively and share videos. That’s why it’s being brought up in the conversation.

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Car

Mazda MX-5 / Miata

"...ot Broke two arms riding a motorcycles time for a miata question mark Ronan c"

The Mazda Miata (MX-5) is a small two-seat car made for enjoyable driving. It’s known for being light and simple, so it can be easier to handle than many bigger cars. People often mention it when they want a fun car without needing a lot of experience.

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2023 subaru outback

"Hannah w Asherin Chris hefner jerry at homo gamer agenda.com has a 2023 subaru outback sale will deliver"

The Subaru Outback is a practical car that’s sort of a mix between a wagon and an SUV. The 2023 model is known for being roomy and for having all-wheel drive for better traction in bad weather.

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